Core 2 Extreme X6800: From Flagship to Bargain

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  • The Core 2 Extreme had an extreme price and the value was poor. Most just bought a cheaper Core 2 and overclocked it. Still, there is something about owning the very best of an era and this legendary processor can be had for a much lower price.
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  • @philscomputerlab
    @philscomputerlab  4 месяца назад +61

    They are so versatile! From DOS to Windows 10. Amazing!

    • @ALPHABYTE64
      @ALPHABYTE64 4 месяца назад +4

      Yea, that's amazing

  • @jesus16uuhh
    @jesus16uuhh 4 месяца назад +3

    I need to revisit my old 775 build. It held on like a champ until 2018 when i switched over to lga 1366

  • @appwraith
    @appwraith 4 месяца назад +8

    One of the coolest things about this retro journey is the journey itself! I used to be an AMD enthusiast of about 30 years, and only recently got into Intel CPUs as well. And playing around with retro Intels as well is more of an extra flavour, since I never used them back in the day. Sort of like discovering a new platform in inself.

    • @roveradventures
      @roveradventures 4 месяца назад

      Well from your outlook since I've used mostly AM2 when growing up. Was intel really that much better?
      (I know they usually had a decent bit of FPS more in most test) I just wonder if it's worth grabbing those over a high end am2+ setup.

  • @MarcoGPUtuber
    @MarcoGPUtuber 4 месяца назад +10

    Phil's videos are also retro bargains

  • @Keullo-eFIN
    @Keullo-eFIN 4 месяца назад +16

    Phil, that's actually not even bad. Think that we get old hella expensive Xeons for practically free these days and it's not a disaster if you kill one with overclocking with extreme voltages. :D

  • @jbaroli
    @jbaroli 4 месяца назад +21

    My gaming desktop is still a 775, a P35-DS3L, never changed it from 2008, only minor updates (more RAM, a Xeon 771 and storage). I work everyday with a laptop. I enjoy watching videos when max out a 775 platform. That was an incredible lasting platform.

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem 4 месяца назад

      I have extreme build 775 Quad Core2 PC too, new RTX 4070 in it now. QE 9650 ??
      8GB DDR3 on XMP, lager SSD, old DELL fancy tower system. 2012 ?
      it runs all modern titles in 1080p, 60 FPS max...

    • @brugj03
      @brugj03 4 месяца назад +4

      @@lucasrem Good luck with your enormous cpu bottleneck.
      Btw, the year 2005 called they want their 60 fps back.

    • @Xurikyo
      @Xurikyo 4 месяца назад

      boggles the mind how one cannot simply understand how bottlenecking works, I still get 10% bottlenecks witha highly overclocked 5950x and a 4090@@brugj03

    • @Ivy-pe2wz
      @Ivy-pe2wz 4 месяца назад +3

      That RTX is doing basically nothing. The time it takes for the draw calls to be issued are more than what it takes for them to be drawn@@lucasrem

    • @AeroFix94
      @AeroFix94 4 месяца назад

      nope. Modern games wont run on that old cpu becasue of lack of instructions on the chip.@@lucasrem

  • @KeyToTime
    @KeyToTime 4 месяца назад +4

    I had a Q9650 in my main PC for nearly 10 years. From 2008 until 2018. Such longevity.

    • @RetroPcCupboard
      @RetroPcCupboard 4 месяца назад +1

      Me too. Though mine was QX9650 (unlocked) and I ran it at 3.8Ghz rather than the stock 3.0Ghz. Was more than capable for Internet and productivity. It was the bottleneck for gaming though. I started with two 8800 GTS 512 in SLI and later updated the GPU to a GTX 970. I went from that to a Ryzen 3800X in 2019. Absolutely immense upgrade that was.

    • @KeyToTime
      @KeyToTime 4 месяца назад

      @@RetroPcCupboard The Q9650 was the biggest upgrade I ever made. Came from a Pentium 4 640 3.2Ghz, that was a massive difference. In 2014 I built a gaming PC with a i5 4690k, that was nice but didn't feel like a huge jump on the Core 2 Quad. I upgraded that to a i7 4790k in 2016. I finally upgraded that to a Ryzen 7700X last year. The Q9650 carried on side by side until 2018 when I started dabbling with the HEDT platforms, initially upgraded to a Xeon X5675, then i7 4960x and finally E5 1680 v2.
      When I first bought the Q9650, I had an Nvidia 7950GX2, later upgraded to a GTX460, then GTX760, after that it was no longer my main gaming PC but had a GTX 960 and then a GTX970 in it for a while. Last game I played all the way through on it was Doom 2016. Ran like butter. Other games like GTA V were not so good.
      I still have it in my windows XP retro PC. Paired with a GTX285.

  • @vojtechadame5860
    @vojtechadame5860 4 месяца назад +6

    My friend found the Core2Quad Q9650 in pile of e-waste. I'll definitely take it, since that cpu is just awesome. It should be faster and cooler and it's the best Core2Quad non-extreme.

  • @captainwasel8377
    @captainwasel8377 4 месяца назад +5

    You can never go wrong with socket 775 for retro gaming. Parts are easy to find and won't need a huge budget. Always great to see you upload Phil. I have a Radeon HD 7770 i need to pair it with one of the socket 775 computers I've got.

  • @r4z4m4t4z
    @r4z4m4t4z 4 месяца назад +4

    thanks, well done! yes, 775 is so cheap right now and still so fun!

  • @ThailogXanatos
    @ThailogXanatos 4 месяца назад +6

    Quake 4 is an EAX 5 showpiece. If you play it with an X-Fi card, it really shines. In particular, the explosions become a lot more realistic.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  4 месяца назад +2

      Awesome, will use a X-Fi card next time.

    • @cal2127
      @cal2127 4 месяца назад +1

      how well does that work with hesuvi?

  • @xentiment6581
    @xentiment6581 4 месяца назад +12

    Setting up a retro 775 Xeon build as we speak. Core 2 truly was one of the most based CPU architectures of all time, and with good 400MHz boards it can really stretch its legs even today, its main bane being lack of instructions at this point.

    • @MultiWirth
      @MultiWirth 4 месяца назад +3

      It´s not really competing with anything nowadays.
      Even my tablet sporting a dual core i5 7300U is significantly faster than an overclocked q6600 at this point.
      Don´t worry about instructions, it can´t run modern games at a pleasant framerate anyways.
      The reason why i retired the 775 platform in 2017, as soon as i had money.
      Cool for retro gaming, but for a daily driver not so much.

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem 4 месяца назад

      up to 1333 Mhz FSB it supports

  • @theoldone22
    @theoldone22 4 месяца назад +1

    I remember my QX6800 I got at a big discount as Frys was making room for the then new QX6850

  • @pedrolander1820
    @pedrolander1820 4 месяца назад +1

    My main PC fron 2007 to 2021 was a QX6850 OC@ 4Ghz. Saludos desde Venezuela.

  • @adinnugroho6544
    @adinnugroho6544 4 месяца назад +2

    I don't know why, The one reason I like this channel, is his hoodie. Beyond just the retro PC Hardware

  • @erikmerchant567
    @erikmerchant567 4 месяца назад +5

    You are spot on about the value of the E8400 Core 2 and related sister cpus. I never met an Extreme edition bench that an E8400 could not beat. I'm starting to wonder when we will see you doing some LGA 1156/ 1366 cpu builds as they are hitting the sweet spot in pricing now too. They may not feel retro, but they are now 12+ years old and very cheap on the market. Mostly. Great video as usual.

    • @retropcscotland4645
      @retropcscotland4645 4 месяца назад

      1155 is even old now. I got an i7-3770 for pennies. All the hardware is starting to be price friendly.

  • @Slaterking2010
    @Slaterking2010 4 месяца назад +1

    This was back when I was starting building computers. I knew a bit just when the Pentium D was out, but this is the nostalgia, seen that Gigabyte Speed Smart Safe screen brought back memories of my Core 2 Duo machine.

  • @dinkokolic4386
    @dinkokolic4386 4 месяца назад +3

    My PC still works with E8700, 4gb ram, win 10, for basic needs (mail, yt, lighter games) it still doesn't need replacement

  • @danielberrett2179
    @danielberrett2179 4 месяца назад +2

    E8400 owner here. Thanks for the Videos as always Phil.

  • @drupiROM
    @drupiROM 4 месяца назад +3

    5:05 Very few people would have run Crysis at 1920x1080 back in 2007. Most of us had CRTs or 17-19" TFT panels with 1280x1024 resolution. I played the game at 1280x1024 with about 30 fps on average and down to 15-20 fps in the last boss battle. Great game for it's time and it pushed hardware to it's limits.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  4 месяца назад

      Fair comment!

    • @RetroPcCupboard
      @RetroPcCupboard 4 месяца назад +1

      At the time I had a 1920x1200 monitor and my System was QX9650 clocked at 3.8Ghz with 8Gb RAM and dual Geforce 8800 GTS 512 in SLI with RAID 0 dual 150gb 10k RPM HDDs. Yup, even that struggled with Crysis.

    • @drupiROM
      @drupiROM 4 месяца назад

      @@RetroPcCupboard I had a E4300, an Iiyama 19" 1280x1024 monitor, i can't remember the mobo, RAM or sotrage but i spend all the money i made that summer on a 8800GTS 320/320. In Vista with DX10 i got around 27-30 fps. most of the time, and i clearly remember the last boss battle at around 15 fps :)

  • @octopusgaming4027
    @octopusgaming4027 4 месяца назад +4

    I'm upgrading my struggling Athlon64 Machine with a Core2 Duo E6850 Prozessor on a MSI P6N SLI V2 Board for old Windows XP/7 Games.
    Maybe upgrading the machine to a SLI. Doesn't make much sense, but I never played around with SLI.

  • @MultiWirth
    @MultiWirth 4 месяца назад +1

    I still have a complete mainboard with a q6600 in the drawer which i retired in 2017.

  • @RevDrCCoonansr
    @RevDrCCoonansr 4 месяца назад +1

    Breakfast with Phil's. Thank you. 🙏❤

  • @julianstechsation
    @julianstechsation 4 месяца назад +4

    Always excited to see your videos especially about retro flagships 🤓

  • @luismagallanes2371
    @luismagallanes2371 4 месяца назад +4

    I always saw these premium processors for people that just had money to burn. The Q6600 for example would get you almost all the way there but at less than half the price. So it made more sense to get that and , spluge on the GPU which was more important for gaming. Still these are neat to come back to and explore. What i remember most is how fast CPUs were developing in those times.

    • @outatime77
      @outatime77 4 месяца назад +1

      There was an easy pin mod where you could cover a single pin on a Q6600 and unlock more FSB and GHZ.

  • @GadgetUK164
    @GadgetUK164 4 месяца назад +3

    The 775 was a great socket - I used my QX6800 up until early 2019! And then the only reason I went to a new machine was Windows 10 just didn't properly support the nForce 680i - basically giving random resets on disk activity...

  • @gianthamster6782
    @gianthamster6782 4 месяца назад +2

    Good video :). I just finished building my windows XP rig. Core2duo E8600, Asus p5n-e sli, 2 evga 9600gt's and a Fatal1ty x-fi. I'm loving it.

    • @AaronHendu
      @AaronHendu 4 месяца назад +1

      I loved all those "hated" Asus P5N boards. I cpuldnt afford the big boy SLI boards and had great experience with the P5N series SLI boards.

  • @dualpapayas
    @dualpapayas 4 месяца назад +2

    I have an ASUS P5PE-VM (basically a poor man's ASRock 775i65G R3.0) and it supports the X6800 and unofficially the Pentium E5800. I benchmarked both CPUs and performance is pretty much identical for gaming.
    Quake 4 was also one of the first games to support multicore CPUs (Half-Life 2 and others would eventually get support patched in). It's turned off by default though. At 800x600 high with a Radeon HD 3850 AGP and X6800 the built in benchmark went from 109 FPS to 147 FPS.

  • @WouterVerbruggen
    @WouterVerbruggen 4 месяца назад +2

    One of my favourite chips and platform. Almost completed the entire Core 2 collection. Missing some extremes, they can be very hard and expensive to get. The QX9770 and an engineering sample of a X6800 are some of the top pieces.

    • @RetroPcCupboard
      @RetroPcCupboard 4 месяца назад +1

      I have the QX9650 in an XP machine and X6800 in a Win98 machine. Such great processors

  • @RevDrCCoonansr
    @RevDrCCoonansr 4 месяца назад +1

    Quake 4 was one of my favs. Took me a week to beat it. I was pretty amazed at how smooth it was and how good it looked for the time. I love how it keeps true to Quake by slowly taking you into a descent to madness and hell that you have to overcome and destroy. Great great time playing it.

  • @dhgodzilla1
    @dhgodzilla1 4 месяца назад +1

    I too love revisiting the cream of the crop hardware from back in the day, usually very fun.

  • @robertbehrendt1882
    @robertbehrendt1882 4 месяца назад +1

    Hello Phil, thank you for your videos! You are my personal wayback-machine to my childhood and teenage years.
    I love every single video, you've done. Lot of projects I've done are based on your videos. And the downloads on your well sorted Website often helps me with this projects. Thank you!

  • @mesterak
    @mesterak 4 месяца назад +14

    Happy Friday Phil! I’m still fond of the Core2Duo line of CPUs. I never got into the Extreme CPUs though. Instead I had quite a lot of fun with the 771-to-775 mod for Xeon CPUs. I even ran Windows 10 for bit with one of these modded Xeons on a 775 board. My main rig for awhile now has a socket 1366 board (Dell 730x with modded Alienware BIOS.) I do still have a few WinXP/Win7 systems with 775 boards though I use to play some older games.

    • @AaronHendu
      @AaronHendu 4 месяца назад +2

      Oh yeah, 771 to 755 mod was bomb. I always wanted to see someone do the opposite...a 775 in a 771 board just for the lulz since you would only be able to do single CPU. Fsb and vid pin modding was also fun on 775 / 771. I also ran 1366 for almost a decade, right up until a few months ago when I got a cheap Chinese "X99" board and an e5 1650 v3. I was running an unlocked W3570 quad and then an unlocked W3680 6 core on the x58 board (Dell T3500 fit in an ATX case) and 12GB triple channel 1333MHz DDR3. That board was a beast...I abused the crap out of it and it is still going. I gave it to my sister's boyfriend to mess with. I also built my sister's kids an X58 a few years ago...HP Z400 with custom psu adapters to run normal ATX psu. It also has a W3680...it is only a 4 slot ram board, but it still runs the 6 core CPU after a BIOS update.

    • @AaronHendu
      @AaronHendu 4 месяца назад +1

      With 775 pin modding, you could take junk OEM PC, pin mod an super cheap sub $10 800mhz or 1066mhz fsb cpu to 1333mhz (or even 1600 on some rare boards). I remembet an e5700 or something was able to run 4Ghz ish stable on stock voltage OEM motherboards eith a pin mod. It had been awhile.

    • @mesterak
      @mesterak 4 месяца назад

      @@AaronHendu I don’t how you fit a T3500 board into a regular ATX case. Those boards are huge!

  • @postanimus8989
    @postanimus8989 4 месяца назад +3

    Couple years ago i've scored X6800 for 25 bucks, and exactly year ago i found X1950XTX for around 20 bucks :D Sometimes people don't know what they're selling.

  • @Gazereths1234
    @Gazereths1234 4 месяца назад +2

    I got an old Dell XPS with a qx6800 (quad core) X-FI sound card and a 8800gts for £5 years ago. Dropped 2 x 250GB hdds in there in raid0 and it's a great XP machine....Still going strong, though not sure the 2 extra cores matter. I think it's ready for a new PSU though.

  • @mdrumt
    @mdrumt 4 месяца назад +1

    Coffee and Phil on a Sat morning, don't mind if I do! I went from Q6750 to Q9550 that system lasted almost a decade, I still have it in the shed, one day I'll dust it off for the man cave or something. I think you'd just as well served with Q9550 or Q6600 instead of an extreme version.

  • @antonhei2443
    @antonhei2443 4 месяца назад +1

    18 year old platform still able to perform basic daily tasks. If not for CS2 SSE4.2 , it would still be my competitive secondary gaming PC.

  • @MichaelWestcott
    @MichaelWestcott 4 месяца назад +2

    Conroe was such a good overclocker which made these extreme editon processors pointless for any real enthusiast. I had an E4300 that would happily do 3GHz on stock volts and 3.6ghz (100% overclock) with a small voltage bump

  • @Pulverrostmannen
    @Pulverrostmannen 4 месяца назад +2

    Check this out, I was inspired to fire up my 775 rig with my old and mighty Q9550, I have this overclocked to 3,53GHZ (On AIR) and I ran Passmark on it, I got a CPU Mark of 3285 points which is the fastest Q9550 score on record with CPU Mark, I really topped the chart and it showed 0 baselines with a similar score. King of the hill baby! I have this checked with Cinebench R23 as well and the multicore score is 2095points and single core 539. man I miss the times when computers could overclock as much as the 775 did

  • @metall_lover
    @metall_lover 4 месяца назад +1

    Hi, Phil and thank you for another great retro-pc hobby related video. My story related to the socket 775 is when I decided to get my own Windows XP gaming retro rig I choosed the Q9650 (3 GHz) processor which I can say is very very fast and nice. You may ask why? Because the 4 cores. back in the days I had Q9550 processor (2.8 GHz), before the Q9550 I had E8600 which is very good, cold and fast.

  • @filipetmarcal
    @filipetmarcal 4 месяца назад +3

    Nice review

  • @sirtanon1
    @sirtanon1 4 месяца назад +1

    I have run AMD in my main PC for decades but in the past 7 or 8 years, I've really come to appreciate socket 775, 1155, and 1366. 775 is just so versatile and just keeps hanging in there. I'm actually still running an old Lenovo mini desktop as a business PC that started life as a Core 2 Duo but which i have since upgraded to a Xeon L5408 quad core (socket 771). It doesn't game so it handles everything i throw at it including Photoshop.

  • @krazycharlie
    @krazycharlie 4 месяца назад +1

    I had a Dual Core E5400, which was already a budget option of a budget option. But I'm not complaining, because it lasted me almost 10 years. The 775 socket was an excellent workhorse for me, great value for the money and I'd get another one if the opportunity presents itself. Thank you for the video, Phil!

  • @eusebiosksipolitos2524
    @eusebiosksipolitos2524 4 месяца назад +1

    But can it run Crysis??! Yes, yes it can...04:32..Great video as usual Phil...

  • @RevDrCCoonansr
    @RevDrCCoonansr 4 месяца назад +1

    I have 2. I also got a tray of Intel samples from an Intel employee out on disability. I gave them back. As foolish as that sounds. After looking them up I realized they had to be stolen and he was supposed to destroy them or they were never supposed to leave storage. He actually told me I was stupid for not selling them. He also gave me a tray of Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge, Haswell and Broadwell as well as an original Itanium (Huge chip), and some other specialty items like the extreme edition Nehalem and some other x58, x79 and x99 parts. I kept the Itanium, and gave him $20. He was fine with it.

  • @gabesz
    @gabesz 4 месяца назад +1

    Back in 2006 I had an E6300. I used at stock speeds until I get an Asrock motherboard that supported 1600Mhz FSB overclock. I achieved 2,93Ghz with the E6300, rock solid, with a slight overvoltage. The record was 3,06GHz, but with that it freezed with cinebench after a few minutes. The E6xxx series processors was beasts back then.

  • @StaelTek
    @StaelTek 4 месяца назад +2

    Great video! Is it possible for a second video with some overclocking on the X6800, since it has an unlocked multiplier?

  • @lucasrem
    @lucasrem 4 месяца назад +2

    Intel Core 2 Extreme Processor X6800, meant to run on Pentium boards, not that fast.
    You better go for the Core 2 Extreme Kentsfields, 1333 MHz FBS, up to the QX6850, 130 Watt
    Many CPU's are retrospective called Extreme Core 2, both Dual and Quad.

  • @rodhester2166
    @rodhester2166 4 месяца назад

    you are spot on about the extreme and the cost.. .. thanks for the video.

  • @Ale.K7
    @Ale.K7 4 месяца назад +1

    I found EE and FX's prices outrageous back then. In a computer shop we used to work we had one FX (I don't remember the model) and for some time we couldn't sell it to anyone, my boss offered me a meager U$S10 bonus if I could find a buyer...
    I would love to have some EEs and FXs now :-)

  • @soumyajitdeb3943
    @soumyajitdeb3943 4 месяца назад +1

    This video brought back lots of memories. Used to have an E6600 that ran overclocked to 3.6 GHz from day one on an Asus P5B Deluxe, Cellshock 1000 MHz Ram with an 8800 Ultra. Those were the days.

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem 4 месяца назад

      P5B is DDR 3 board ? you should keep it, faster quad core CPU + RTX cards, you can play all titles !

    • @soumyajitdeb3943
      @soumyajitdeb3943 4 месяца назад

      @@lucasrem Nope DDR3 didn't exist then. The ram was ultra low latency 4-4-4 @1000. I later moved to a QX6800.

  • @supabass4003
    @supabass4003 4 месяца назад +2

    Scorptec forever! E4300 was where it was at!

  • @dennisdoherty1133
    @dennisdoherty1133 4 месяца назад +3

    Another great video. When these came out they were too expensive for my budget, I had staggered in to the realm of AMD processors by this time. I always wanted to get one but never did.

  • @O.Shawabkeh
    @O.Shawabkeh 4 месяца назад +1

    Quake 4 is among my top favorite old-school fps games.
    The graphics held pretty well too.

  • @joaoc_PT
    @joaoc_PT 4 месяца назад +1

    The perfect cpu for my asrock 4core dual vsta!

  • @coreyoliver3182
    @coreyoliver3182 4 месяца назад +2

    Will I ever get bored of this kind of content?..nope..never.

  • @manaphylv100
    @manaphylv100 4 месяца назад +1

    This brings back memories. I had one of these back in 2007-ish. It was an engineering sample (QPHV), and I got it really cheap because the seller didn't know what it was.
    Unfortunately, it was already superseded by the E8000-series and quad-cores by then, and it didn't overclock very well due to high voltage and thus temperature. So, novelty value aside, the X6800 (along with QX6700/6800/6850) was a terribly pointless product, as its premium was too high for marginal performance gains. The same can be said about AMD's A64 FX series.
    At least today's "premium" models like the i9-12900/13900/14900KS are only slightly more expensive than their non-S counterparts, so they might actually be better buys, especially used.

  • @MrDabadabadu
    @MrDabadabadu 4 месяца назад +1

    Can you please make video of this Wayback machine and how to use/browse it. It looks interesting.

  • @cal2127
    @cal2127 4 месяца назад +1

    the 45 nm refresh could do ddr3 on some boards so you could have like 16 gb ddr3 on a quad core machine that can run both xp64 bit and win 10

  • @jamesfmackenzie
    @jamesfmackenzie 4 месяца назад +1

    A great PC and a great video!! 😎

  • @dycedargselderbrother5353
    @dycedargselderbrother5353 4 месяца назад

    It'd be interesting to see modern-ish benchmarks with the 6-core Dunnington Xeon X7460, which is the same architecture despite the extra cores. PassMark doesn't have an entry for it but the closely related L7455 is on the level of the Phenom II X4 975.

  • @menhirmike
    @menhirmike 4 месяца назад +1

    Now I really want to see what the Intel Business Card Holder looks like.

  • @elmariachi5133
    @elmariachi5133 4 месяца назад

    Well, as you said there was no significant over the lower Intel CPUs, that's why I never felt like owning an QX. I had an E2140 runnign at 3,1GHz back then. A little more clock than the QX6800 for compensating the smaller cache a bit and 2 instead of 4 cores which of course did not matter the last when there just where very few games making use of just two cores and even fewer applications. So the overclocked budget CPU is way more fascinating IMHO :) Also still have the Athlon XP2600+ mobile which could run faster than the desktop 3200+ that I was using before on the legendary Abit AN-7 - It was great when overclocking still made sense :)

  • @MrSamadolfo
    @MrSamadolfo 4 месяца назад +2

    😃 yay! Boeing 775 FTW! 😘😍😊

  • @3dfxvoodoocards6
    @3dfxvoodoocards6 4 месяца назад +1

    Like! Quake 4 looks like a mod for Doom 3. I was really disappointed back then.

  • @jwoody8815
    @jwoody8815 4 месяца назад

    Q4 is one of my favorite FPSs of all time, oddly I havent had any issues playing it on my 2070 Super. Beaten the game several times over since I purchased it.

  • @onogrirwin
    @onogrirwin 4 месяца назад

    You should make a video talking about tips and tricks for finding ancient pc tech. Ebay is only so much fun. Thrift stores are occasionally amazing, but the chains like salvation army don't do electronics here in the US.

  • @czbrat
    @czbrat 4 месяца назад +1

    LGA 775 is back!

  • @RetroPcCupboard
    @RetroPcCupboard 4 месяца назад +1

    Certainly they arent cheap in the UK. They are mostly listed on ebay for £90-£110. I waited for over a year before I saw one for £35 and snapped it up. Even that is a crazy price compared to the E6600 that I got for £5 delivered whilst waiting for the X6800. It is in my 'ultimate" Windows 98 PC along with Geforce 4 Ti 4600, Soundblaster Audigy ZS and Western Digital Velociraptor 150Gb (10k RPM HDD with transparent side to see it's workings"). Its a fantastic CPU for sure and definitely very overkill for Win98. I love it though. So snappy. I tried geforce FX but found it less compatible than Geforce 4.

  • @jrherita
    @jrherita 4 месяца назад +1

    An early Core 2 (Conroe) extreme sample provided to Anandtech was clocked at 3.33 GHz; interesting as X6800 actually ended up 400 MHz slower, though OC to 3.33 GHz was pretty easy.

  • @licksludgee
    @licksludgee 4 месяца назад +1

    My first SLI build was on 775, lots of nostalgia for this as I always wanted to do the 771 to 775 mod, but could never justify it. I used to flex on having 8gb of DDR2, SLI and stupid overclocks on nForce boards at the time. The funny bit looking back is that vista was the new and interesting at the time

    • @AaronHendu
      @AaronHendu 4 месяца назад

      Core 2 and SLI...those were the days man.

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem 4 месяца назад

      @@AaronHendu ASUS Striker II, ASUS Vento 3600 case, still have them here, not available on release date.

  • @shaneeslick
    @shaneeslick 4 месяца назад

    G'day Phil,
    This is the Retro Generation I love playing with the most, While I don't have any Core 2 Extreme CPUs I have quite a few C2D & C2Q CPUs & 775 Motherboards.
    For CPUs I have E7500/7600/8400/8600 plus a few older ones I forget & Q6600 (3🤷‍♂not sure why so many) Q9450/9650
    I mainly stick with Gigabyte for the Motherboards with a 965P-DQ6 & some G31M & G33Ms as they all still have their own page with access to Drivers, Manual & Compatability Lists,
    While I do have my Retro build most just get used for playing & relearning on my test bench along with my ASUS G41M DDR2/DDR3 & EVGA nForce 750i SLI FTW.
    Ps I love Window Shopping LGA775 Motherboards on Ebay, I would like to find one of the Gigabytes with the "Copper City" style Cooler for VRM/Northbridge/Southbridge.

  • @dabombinablemi6188
    @dabombinablemi6188 4 месяца назад +1

    I bought a QX6850 years ago, found out that there was a 10 degrees Celsius difference between both of its die. Also provided a noticably worse experience within Windows 7 than Xeon X5450 and E5450 on the same Asus P5Q Deluxe. Did end up running the FSB at 1600MHz however, for an easy overclock of 3.6GHz. CPU actually didn't like going above 3.8GHz at all, even with the FSB lowered to 1066MHz and DDR800 (albeit a 2x1GB OCZ kit with 4-4-4-12 timings).
    Never actually used it for much more than benchmarking due to just how much better the Xeons were in every way - unlocked multipliers are pointless when the E5450 would happily run at 4.4GHz with similar power consumption and a lower core voltage. Plus 12MB of L2 cache (6+6 instead of 4+4).

  • @evandrochaves9596
    @evandrochaves9596 4 месяца назад

    I love the 775 platform, still used those till recently on a projects PC, a q6600 overclocked to 3.0ghz
    Would really love to get a good GPU from around this area, only found a bad ddr2 gt 9500, still most of the more demanding games still runs ok on windows 7 instead of XP, so I can cheat and use a 2nd gen core i3 and a cheap gt 730

  • @tnutz777
    @tnutz777 4 месяца назад +1

    i have a core duo and eagle lake, and i get smoother fps when the dual core option in quake 4 is set to off 🤷‍♂️ not sure why. either way im maxed out at the 4k of its day which is why i have not really looked into it.
    content idea - how to play various unreal games in online multiplayer since epic walked away. the good news is you can and its as fun as ever.

  • @almadawarrior
    @almadawarrior 4 месяца назад +1

    found a q6600 quad system 4gb ddr2 with ati gpu in trash few days ago, plugged it in 1st time no post, reseated the ram and got into bios, its optiplex with 4 core which was a nice surprise maybe ill sell it someday, still havent figured out what gpu is init though bc no os installed

  • @AndreiVassiliev
    @AndreiVassiliev 4 месяца назад +1

    Wonderful video!! I had a core 2 duo e6600 which I overclocked back in the day too, with an 8800GT (I think)... Phil - I have a question... I have a thing for different accents in English, and your Australian accent sounds really unique to me... Almost as if it's mixed with a German accent... am I wrong?

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  4 месяца назад +1

      You are right. I've mentioned it a few times but I forget that nobody reads every single comment. I'm Austrian and now living in Australia 😊

    • @AndreiVassiliev
      @AndreiVassiliev 4 месяца назад

      Cool! I love Austria and have been there a few times. Have yet to visit Australia, though - I'd love to! Greetings from Latvia. Just wanted to let you know that your channel got me into PCEM and the experience in installing Windows 95/98 was truly a nostalgic wonder! Thank you for your content!@@philscomputerlab

  • @larryladeroute971
    @larryladeroute971 4 месяца назад

    I was abke to get an X6800 a couple years ago and was a bit disappointed. Its performance was same or less than the e6800 I already had. It was still good but was not an upgrade for that build...better and cheaper to go with 8000 or 9000 series quad cores. It definitely.gets tje job done for an XP build. Need some 1920×1200 benchmarks. 16:10 was a great resolution in for a build like this though the games you tested may not be best suited for that resolution.

  • @farben_
    @farben_ 4 месяца назад +1

    I have numerous 775 cpus, the best I would say is the E8400 and the Q9550, easy to find and affordable. There's no point in messing with the Xeon's and the socket mods imo.

  • @UndyingGhost
    @UndyingGhost 4 месяца назад

    Amazing thing is that Max Payne 1/2 remakes are coming!

  • @chrisrudi7162
    @chrisrudi7162 4 месяца назад +1

    I have one of these with an AGP card 😁 HD4670 from HIS with 1 GB DDR3. I bought the CPU together with a board and cooler for 70 euros.

    • @chrisrudi7162
      @chrisrudi7162 4 месяца назад

      The only disadvantage is that I can only use DDR 400 RAM with the X6800. But it was deliberately built as an AGP platform, it should be my fastest.

  • @Martschy
    @Martschy Месяц назад

    1156 socket was the biggest leap if u ask me. i still have the i5 750 (4 Cores, 4 Threads @2.66GHz) clocked at 3ghz. it is faster than the fastest 2 core extreme and was also quite cheap back then. my nephew is using it for gaming with a rx 6600

  • @pazitor
    @pazitor 4 месяца назад +1

    Of the era, modded Xeons and the trusty Core2 Quad Q6600 are my favorites.

  • @Kedvespatikus
    @Kedvespatikus 4 месяца назад +6

    Core 2 Quads are still fairly good for everyday use. My wife happily used a Q8200 with 8 GB RAM, a GTX750 and an SSD under Linux as her daily driver a year ago. She even run Krita and Blender.

    • @gytax01
      @gytax01 4 месяца назад +1

      My gf uses my old Q9400 and RX560, still runs pretty good. She doesn't play newest games so no problem.

    • @GTFour
      @GTFour 4 месяца назад

      They just about scrape by. I swapped my mum’s Q9550 for a 10th gen quad core and it’s night and day faster. Both 8GB RAM & SSD

    • @ALPHABYTE64
      @ALPHABYTE64 4 месяца назад

      xd, even i5-2400 sukcs

  • @mlgxxx808
    @mlgxxx808 4 месяца назад

    Is quake 4 optimized for newer versions of windows

  • @CoreyDeWalt
    @CoreyDeWalt 4 месяца назад

    I looked into the core2extreme for my retro xp build, but the fastest core2quad was better so I just went with that. My motherboard supports all of the core2 processors. The amazing thing is it will run semi modern games with a good graphics card.

  • @BrokeDad1
    @BrokeDad1 4 месяца назад +1

    I was shocked I could run the latest Windows 11 23H2 on an old Sony Vaio Core 2 Duo laptop I had siting around. I'll most likely put Linux on it though but I was curious.

  • @bitelaserkhalif
    @bitelaserkhalif 4 месяца назад +2

    Socket 775 + GTX 750/650: cost effective XP game system

  • @turbojoe2
    @turbojoe2 28 дней назад

    Max Payne and Mafia. My favorite games ever.

  • @damasterpiece08
    @damasterpiece08 4 месяца назад

    Dual LGA771 quad-core system build please :D

  • @SleeperJohns
    @SleeperJohns 4 месяца назад

    I'm curious if that that motherboard would run reliably on Windows 98SE, I've been on the hunt for a board that is a full sized to have the fastest all rounder for Windows 98SE and Windows XP. The only problem left is the graphics card. Officially I think, is the Nvidia 6800 Ultra Extreme Edition, branded with EVGA based on a bit of research. But to get that exact one? I've never seen one sold on ebay.

  • @SneakiestDuke68
    @SneakiestDuke68 4 месяца назад

    For me Max Payne 2 is the best in series. What i found in Quake 4 if you set msaa x4 or higher game gets some stutter even on GTX 280 or GTX 470. On msaa x2 game runs very smooth.

  • @EslamNawito
    @EslamNawito 4 месяца назад +1

    Now Iam curious about the free intel watch !!!!

  • @RevDrCCoonansr
    @RevDrCCoonansr 4 месяца назад +1

    The AMD Athlon FX were off the hook back then. But back then AMD was still in the lead. I was on AMD from Thunderbird to Phenom II for gaming. I even built an FX 8350 system as a console killer at the end of the road. I had a nehalem i5 in a Dell mini ITX that was cool and quiet and performed on par with the FX 8350 that I used for most tasks and watching videos. It didn't really matter to me which I had back then. There weren't huge gaps like the leaps we saw 20 years earlier up to the 00s that saw Moore's law flourish. Once we hit the land of diminishing returns on a uArch that a company refused to update it really didn't matter anymore. So I usually had one of each. And they always beat each other in certain titles and lost to each other in certain titles. Same with productivity, however back then, Intel still reigned supreme.

  • @wettuga2762
    @wettuga2762 4 месяца назад +1

    Nowadays I just go for a modded socket 771 Xeon to really squeeze the most performance out of socket 775 boards with 1333Mhz FSB.
    Have you ever done a video comparing Pentium III Katmai vs their counterparts Pentium III Coppermine, and possibly significant differences between a lower clocked CPU with higher FSB versus a higher clocked CPU with a lower FSB?
    My current Win95 machine has a Pentium III 550E (Coppermine FSB + 100Mhz FSB) and I'm building a 2nd one with a Pentium III 866 (Coppermine + 133Mhz FSB). The letter B is used to distinguish between a 133Mhz from an older 100Mhz, the letter B is deprecated if only the 133Mhz variant exists. The letter E is used to distinguish a newer Coppermine from an older Katmai, the letter B is also deprecated is only the Coppermine variant exists.
    FSB 100MHz = 450, 500, 500E, 550, 550E, 600, 600E, 650, 700, 750, 800, 850, 1000 (>=650 MHz = all Coppermines)
    FSB 133MHz = 533B, 533EB, 600B, 600EB, 667, 733, 800EB, 866, 933, 1000B, 1133 (>= 667 MHz = all Coppermines)

  • @detmer87
    @detmer87 4 месяца назад +6

    Later Core 2 Duo E6850's had better overclocking potential. As soon as the E8500 and higher released those older 'extreme' CPU's immediately became fully obsolete.
    I had a E8650 that ran at 4.7GHz under phase-change cooling.🎉

  • @NYCMario1982
    @NYCMario1982 4 месяца назад

    Nice! Where can i find a nocd patch for max payne?

  • @sgdude1337
    @sgdude1337 2 месяца назад

    Memories of Core 2 Extreme make me scratch my head at the negative reviews for something like a 14900KS. The flagship chips have always commanded a premium that doesn’t make sense from a price:performance standpoint. I would say now though, that premium is less than ever. The X6800 is cool though since it was the last premium dual core chip. 4 months later the QX6700 came out making it obsolete, it’s crazy how fast tech moved in those days.

  • @ErazerPT
    @ErazerPT 4 месяца назад

    Nice looking, but yeah, you're right, it's a collectors piece. You can quite likely squeeze both better performance and price out of an E8xxx series. E8600's should be "cheap" and the spare $$$ can can go to a nice cooler, 4.1Ghz shouldn't be hard to hit at all. Still, much as i love 775 (i still keep my e7300 around, will swap it for a E8xxx someday to have VT-X), I'd probably rather go for an Ivy Bridge (or Sandy Bridge) Core i3 because performance will be similar, you can probably dual boot XP 32 and W7 x64 without issues, and you get the option to to have LOTS of DDR3 RAM for peanuts, if your game doesn't mind W7.

  • @Super123456789Kuba
    @Super123456789Kuba 4 месяца назад +1

    Tbh, I would love to pair a Core 2 Extreme with Windows 98, just for fun. Probably that would be my processor of choice instead of Pentium 4, (Hopefully, at least) which like I said before (To not repeat myself, mind you.) I'm not really a fan of it, so that's what I would do.
    I have a Core 2 Duo E8500 as my XP and 7 Machine, so... Yup, Definitely I would do something a bit different to what I have here.
    Nice to see Quake 4 now, Since the last time I reminded myself of that game that exist was thanks to that First Episode of Polish TV Gaming Channel about Reviews of games.