@MovieTalkNow No, the plot twist will be at the post credit scene with Fleck smoking out a car window while Dr Quinn is driving him out of Arkham. Lead in to a Joker 3. Bruce is still too young. So, there is no chance for a Pattison Batman tie-in appearance.
I will see Joker 2 but i don't have high expectations this time around. First movie i was hyped. I'm not hyped this time. I hope the movie turns out to be good though.
It’s not just a musical it’s also a courtroom drama, to me it seems like they’re intentionally trying to make it boring so it will bomb they won’t have to make another one.
@@Starved_platypus the first movie was one of the very few modern movies that was good and people, especially white males, actually enjoyed it so of course they need to make this awful movie to trash the first one for everyone... if you haven't noticed yet, we aren't allowed to enjoy things anymore, our culture is being destroyed on purpose
Lee was not a doctor in that film. She was a college student. Since Joker 2 is a prequel to the Heath Ledger Joker movie, Heath is the Joker that Harlee treats
I’m admittedly looking forward to Joker: Folíe A Deux, mostly to see just how well Gaga can portray Harley in a film like this. It could be interesting.
It just sucks that it's a musical but at least Lady Gaga has a great voice and Phoenix did a pretty good job on vocals as Johnny Cash. I just feel like the songs will take me out of the immersion too much. That's usually what musicals do to me and why I'm not a big fan.
@@Brimst0ne_XB Fair enough, but it could still be entertaining either way, so just keep your fingers crossed if you need to. Also, just out of curiosity; the movie he played Johnny Cash in: Is it worth watching? I just want a quick outside opinion before I consider looking at Walk The Line.
Like there was nothing wrong with this movie. It's like most people just don't get it or were all waiting for it to turn into a batman movie or something. Phoenix is entertaining throughout the movie. I found it alright. Not as good as the first but definitely not worth hating
@@itzTobi11 this generation of thinking movies need remakes and sequels is WHY this movie was made the way it was, he didn’t want to do a sequel but everyone was like “oh we love joker we want more you need to make a sequel” so instead of giving you exactly what you ask for he made something completely different that’s still a great movie but knew it would piss all the joker fans off, why tf do we need to touch that heath ledger performance, nothing like it should ever be attempted because there’s a guarantee it won’t be as good, this generation of thinking is why movies today are for the most part lackluster
First 10 Minutes I was all-in 20 minutes in I knew some good stuff was about to happen 45 minutes in it looked like things were about to happen 1hr and 15 minutes in I was looking at the watch when Phoenix badly finished his singing (if you call it that) Then the movie ended and I felt trolled. Fuck this movie🖕
I'll see it but one thing I want to see how he does Hannibal to Corey's or how he turned her sins thers no ace chemicals scenario and if it's a musical the joker and Harley sings a lot in games and cartoons so it will be no biggy
Knew when lady gaga got involved it waa going to be ruined and trash wont pay to watch ill probably stream on a site on my phone or wait for it on hbo to watch till i get tired of it for so long and shut it off while never finishing it like i do with so many uninteresting shows and movies that come out these day with all the horrible story writing thats keeps going on
@@Daniellarsonedit totally disagree man, Leto's joker wasn't as bad as this joker. This joker is way more emotional and depressed. Not saying that Leto was great he just wasn't as bad as this one.
Nah. I was looking forward to it, then they announced Lady Gaga was in it = Red Flag
Now it's a musical = Forget it!
Lady Gaga is really good actor and singer. People are just afraid to see something different. The movie is really good
lady gaga is a mediocre actress. great singer with yet again mediocre songs 🫢
lady gaga is a mediocre actress. great singer but songs with no weight to them
@@coxx2807Harley Quinn should be hot tho sorry not sorry
This his movie The Joker not
It's a musical cause everything,the whole movie, is happening in his head while he's still at the psych ward.
I hope not! IMO that's the laziest twist a writer can make. "Plot twist: none of this happened!"
@MovieTalkNow No, the plot twist will be at the post credit scene with Fleck smoking out a car window while Dr Quinn is driving him out of Arkham. Lead in to a Joker 3. Bruce is still too young. So, there is no chance for a Pattison Batman tie-in appearance.
I will see Joker 2 but i don't have high expectations this time around. First movie i was hyped. I'm not hyped this time. I hope the movie turns out to be good though.
@@MrTagalish no lmao
It’s not just a musical it’s also a courtroom drama, to me it seems like they’re intentionally trying to make it boring so it will bomb they won’t have to make another one.
Wow what an interesting theory! Todd Philips said there will not be a Joker 3 🙂
there won't be another...the director told that clearly
why spend at least 200 million to make sure they wouldn’t have to do another one? just don’t make the sequel to begin with if you WANT it to be bad
@@Starved_platypus the first movie was one of the very few modern movies that was good and people, especially white males, actually enjoyed it so of course they need to make this awful movie to trash the first one for everyone... if you haven't noticed yet, we aren't allowed to enjoy things anymore, our culture is being destroyed on purpose
They would never do a movie intentionally bad just because the first one was good
“Finding out the size of his pogo stick” NAH 💀
It is brilliant.
Lee was not a doctor in that film. She was a college student. Since Joker 2 is a prequel to the Heath Ledger Joker movie, Heath is the Joker that Harlee treats
I’m admittedly looking forward to Joker: Folíe A Deux, mostly to see just how well Gaga can portray Harley in a film like this. It could be interesting.
I plan on seeing it opening night 💪
It just sucks that it's a musical but at least Lady Gaga has a great voice and Phoenix did a pretty good job on vocals as Johnny Cash. I just feel like the songs will take me out of the immersion too much. That's usually what musicals do to me and why I'm not a big fan.
@@Brimst0ne_XB Fair enough, but it could still be entertaining either way, so just keep your fingers crossed if you need to. Also, just out of curiosity; the movie he played Johnny Cash in: Is it worth watching? I just want a quick outside opinion before I consider looking at Walk The Line.
I saw the movie, I thought it was a masterpiece 😊
I thought Speed Racer was a masterpiece too!
Is this why the world suffers?
Saw it on bootleg. I'm glad I didn't pay for it. kept watching to see if it would get better. it didn't.
Like there was nothing wrong with this movie. It's like most people just don't get it or were all waiting for it to turn into a batman movie or something. Phoenix is entertaining throughout the movie. I found it alright. Not as good as the first but definitely not worth hating
Joker 1: 🥶🥶❤️❤️
Joker 2: 🤮🤮🤡🤡
Joker needs another re-reboot with the same energy as heath ledger
Yes he does
enough with the joker, there is a whole arsenal of interesting batman villains who never get any attention
@@itzTobi11 this generation of thinking movies need remakes and sequels is WHY this movie was made the way it was, he didn’t want to do a sequel but everyone was like “oh we love joker we want more you need to make a sequel” so instead of giving you exactly what you ask for he made something completely different that’s still a great movie but knew it would piss all the joker fans off, why tf do we need to touch that heath ledger performance, nothing like it should ever be attempted because there’s a guarantee it won’t be as good, this generation of thinking is why movies today are for the most part lackluster
I was very excited when this movie was said to be made .. I waited and now I'll just wait until it's on HBO booo !
Pass
Because music "plays ^ in his head, but all of you wouldn't understand.
Oh no musical 🤦🏻♂️
This movie is gonna suck. I wasn't a fan of the first one. But it seems like they are trying to make this one bad
Maybe. Impossible to tell since the first one was terrible indeed.
Musical? I think i'll keep my money
Im definitely buying the movie. These people deserve my money.
Somewhere, there’s somebody the green lighted this. Might this once again be a bunch of executives they don’t know their audience.
Why who wanted to see a musical???
First 10 Minutes I was all-in
20 minutes in I knew some good stuff was about to happen
45 minutes in it looked like things were about to happen
1hr and 15 minutes in I was looking at the watch when Phoenix badly finished his singing (if you call it that)
Then the movie ended and I felt trolled. Fuck this movie🖕
Lady Gaga as Harley Queen, it’s the actual joke 😂
@@sagrath1982 Harley should be hot lol
It was awful!! Don’t waste your money!!
I'll see it but one thing I want to see how he does Hannibal to Corey's or how he turned her sins thers no ace chemicals scenario and if it's a musical the joker and Harley sings a lot in games and cartoons so it will be no biggy
Ok Crazzy mind Singing fun
No
First Joker movie is overrated af. Feel asleep it was so boring
Your attention span and reward system are gone. Dopamine receptors are fried
thanks…i dont need to watch this…😮
Knew when lady gaga got involved it waa going to be ruined and trash wont pay to watch ill probably stream on a site on my phone or wait for it on hbo to watch till i get tired of it for so long and shut it off while never finishing it like i do with so many uninteresting shows and movies that come out these day with all the horrible story writing thats keeps going on
… zero desire to see this…
I'm so glad I've seen so many honest reviews about this disaster so I won't waste my money seeing this garbage
No thanks
I’ll wait until it’s 3 dollars on prime
I didn't like the first movie and this is the worst adaptation of the joker
You're very wrong. jared Leto was the worst joker, and the first joker movie was amazing, but the musicals going to suck
@@Daniellarsonedit totally disagree man, Leto's joker wasn't as bad as this joker. This joker is way more emotional and depressed. Not saying that Leto was great he just wasn't as bad as this one.
@chrishayes5146 maybe you just don't understand joker that's ok if you think the gay version better
@@Daniellarsonedit if anything this sad depressing version is gay but that's your perspective dude, agree to disagree
@@chrishayes5146 do you know how much weight he lost to play that role he wasn't depressed he was phycotic and dangerous
Wtf
I saw it earlier today please don't waste your time was not fun the characterisation is poor across the board and the story is so slow with no pay off
Zero interest in seeing this just like the first one.
Pass the only thing worse than the first movie would be a musical
I think Joker 2 will reach a billion dollars. Who else?
I don't think so I think it will probably do well
I highly doubt its going to reach Deadpool & Wolverine status j2 seems mid at most
And why did the first one make that much? An insane amount of hype + arguably the most iconic villain in comic book history.
She busted I’m sorry. Fame don’t make beauty
What a joke!!!
Already sounds like rubbish, should have left it where it was
Cringe
obviously you didnt watch the show. she wasnt his doctor. just reaching so can get a punchline. hack.
Musical sucks
Boring. Stupid musical. Nope
Wrf wants to see Gaga ?
Well, that sucks. I was looking forward to that. Guess I will never watch it.
What if the reviews are excellent?
@@MovieTalkNoweven worse, critics often bash good films and praise shitty ones
@@MovieTalkNowwait you mean from the fans I do t thinks it’s an all out musical maybe a few numbers throughout
Don't listen to a bunch of strangers. Go watch it and make you own judgement. I watch on shrooms and I thought it amazing 😅
@@tripleaces6468 I don’t give two shits what some other person thinks, it’s a musical. I’m not going to watch it.
Another musical with lady gaga 😮💨🤮
The first one was trash.