Compound Turbos for the 800 HP Cummins Street Truck | Power Driven Diesel
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- Опубликовано: 20 апр 2020
- Todd loves turbos!!! Todd and Will reveal the large compound turbo system that is being prepared for the 800 HP Twin Turbo giveaway truck. The Borg 366 SX-E and Aggressor 88 make a wicked compound turbo combination and will easily surpass the 800 HP goal for the 6.1L Stroker 12v Cummins!!! Remember, spend a buck, win a truck. All purchases now thru May 15, 2020 qualify for entries in the giveaway truck!
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If someone told you he saw a 800HP Cummins diesel out racing on the street about 25 years ago, people would have said yeah, right. These two characters put one together making 1600hp plus. Then they build an every day driver 800hp truck that should exceed a stock truck fuel mileage and outrun those little Hondas. Plus you can drive it for many years to come. Isn't this everyones dream truck?
Definitely my dream truck! Sports car with a view!
i mean, the pullers have known it for far longer than that.
Seriously thank you guys for seeing the need for a better priced high performing turbo and making it happen that's awesome
Compounds are great because they make so much torque. I’ve always told myself when I spend money on a truck I’m going with compounds.
We Totally Agree!
You guys are killing it! Keep up all your hard work we appreciate it!
Thanks for your support Joe!!!
Great video! That is going to be a serious street truck that is gonna hurt a lot of feelings.
You got that right!
I got quote for an s488 sxe supercore here in the UK... 1800plus 20% VAT. Found a T6 s480 with a billet compressor wheel for half that from Australia. This is a turbo I want for my 2 rotor
Got some power driven oil and airdog filters ordered tonight for my Dmax. Can't wait to try this oil!
You're gonna love it, it definitely has a distinct smell with the heavy dose of ZDDP!!!
Should be a new smell to me. I'm used to Rotella
awesome video!!! I do run compounds on my truck... just amazing and pleasure driving
Right on!
Compound Turbo’s are just plain awesome! 😍 why? Well, because boost! That’s why!
Exactly!
I have 2 Garrett G25/550 turbos on my car. I know what you mean by expensive. They were 1/2 the price of my entire motor build.
maybe next video can talk about exhaust drive pressure for single and twin turbo???
Great Video I've been running the stock over a 369sxe compound that PDD had install on my 06 since 2016 still running great defiantly more fun to drive and race with having compounds haha
Aric, you're an old customer from way back, glad you're still happy with your truck!!! Hopefully you guys in Vegas can get back to work soon!!!
Awesome. I'm planning on doing either that or a 472 myself. Do you have the 5.9 or the 6.7? I'm waiting on PDD to get a 68RFE kit before adding the compounds, figure if I don't I won't have 6 gears for long.
@@Parents_of_Twins I have a 5.9.. that's a good idea getting your trans done haha I had PDD build mine, great transmission paired with PDD trans fluid can't go wrong.....good luck on which way you decide to go tho
Here’s an idea, fill the MWE groove on the 66 to help it spool quicker
That setup looks cherry 👌🏻.
Thanks!
Great video! 👍🏽
The intros get me everytime
I love turbos also. We must be brothers from another mother.
I miss the sound of my 12 valve.
Watching the fab work on that pipe with that chill music in the background. Almost a spiritual experience. Love it!
Totally agree!
Bought more chances today thanks again guys
But I just learned because who read fine print that because I live in the people communist Republic of New York that I'm not allowed to win😢
Have you guys tried to put a variable venture turbo on a 12 valve i seem to hear about some one putting one on their 12 valve removing the actuator and replacing it with a veneer throttle cable any thoughts
Love watching you down to earth and going beyond to help average people
Like hp numbers how about torque numbers?
We anticipate rear wheel torque will come in somewhere between 1400 and 1800 LB FT. The dyno will tell the story!
Don't say "BOOM, just like that" you are trying to avoid that situation. :D
Any chance of PDD oil coming in larger quantities? 5G? 55G?! I’m running it in all my Diesel’s
We can get larger quantities, but we'd need to sell it by the pallet because 5 gallon and larger jugs don't ship well.
It’s got me super excited to maybe win this truck!!! My 1996 dodge Cummins is out of commission tell I buy a NV4500 or nv5600 transmission. (Bought this truck with out a transmission) in the meantime I’ve pulled the motor that has 311,539 miles on it and slowly rebuilding it. Why not since the transmission is not in it. Fix all the leaks and go through it. I have to buy parts anyways so it’s definitely motivated me to purchase the parts from Power Driven Diesel. I’ve always wanted one but of course money talks so I will nickel and dime it tell it’s on the road!!!!!!
Best of luck to you!
PDD: Would you comment on billet aluminum compressor wheels. Some say - lighter, more efficient, more durable, better response,...
Billet sells part!!! Technically cast should be slightly more porous so should weigh ever so slightly less if all else is the same. Some believe billet parts have more material uniformity thus allowing the design to incorporate tighter tolerances and thinner/lighter blades without the fear of a material inconsistency causing a premature failure.
Head studs and valve springs to win for a need for them ? Ok
Will/Tod will you be releasing maps for theas, to allow a properly informed build with them?
Or should a builder just ASSUME (ass-u+me) and use the box barg maps?
Turbos!!!
On the what a/r ratio are you guys using on the s488? Very interested to see how this combo works!
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Do you guys have a shop that does this work or do you just sell the parts ?
Ah, that explains the compound turbo system.
Yo, Todd, I heard you like turbos, so I gave your turbo a turbo! 😆😂😆😂😆😂
Pretty much!
@@pddofficial oh right, while I have your attention: why aren't you running an intercooler between the turbos? I would have thought the air temps would be dangerously high even for a diesel.
Hello guys
Quick question;
I’ve got a donor 98 dodge 3500 12v/NV4500 that I am putting on my 73 Chevy Cheyenne C30 crew cab. Looking to get around 600-650hp. Won’t be towing anything. This truck will be my daily driver/show truck. Thinking abt pairing the S369sxe with my stock hx 35. Will this set up reach 600+hp? Or just running a single turbo would be enough?
Let me know your thoughts and keep up the great work.
Maintenance and with stock location trucks like power strokes and the dramas series engines packaging can be an issue as well since the turbo is mounted on top of the motor in the valley fitting an external gate in there could be a pain. Unless you go dual gates and put one in each up pipe off the manifold and then there’s two of them to have to maintain.
Duramax I hate autocorrect
You can also use a wastegated pedestal
I need this
TURBOS!
Turbo Todd!
An S475 should have been enough to get you to 800rwhp I would think and I would expect it to have better response and more torque which would be nice in a street truck. Of course saying you have an 88 under the hood is so much cooler. :-)
Although the 88 is overkill, a Borg-built 475 has never come close to 800 rwhp on our dyno on a 12v Cummins. We generally see 7 RWHP per LB of air the turbo moves on the compressor map with a moderately built 12V Cummins on PDD's dyno. That means a box 475 would do 700 HP. That's not to say a purpose built highly modified 12V with big fuel system and all the best internal parts couldn't be pushed with a custom built 475 to barely tickle 800 HP, we've just never seen it. Most highly modified 12v powered vehicles that run on the dyno don't run a 475 turbo if they have the myriad of other upgrades to prep them for big power, they generally want big power when building an engine of that caliber and therefore never choose a bigger/badder turbo capable of 1000+ HP.
Any guesses on what It might run the quarter mile in? I put 800hp and 5800lbs in to the qtr mile calculator and came up with 11.27 seconds at 127mph? That B a scary fast full size 4wd truck.
We need to find out!
My truck has a single 366 , can’t decide if I’d get the add a turbo kit or the ultimate towing kit. It’s laggy now but not horrible
What year and what are you wanting to get out of it?
@@pddofficial it is a 96 12v and I’d be happy with it around the 800 hp mark give or take some
Who makes the wastegate for the 366 ?
What size injectors are going in this rig? Predator fuel system im guessing?
5x22 and yes the predator for sure!
Hey power driven I know this might be a dumb question but is it difficult to take apart the gear cover and replace a main seal
It is not difficult. Hardest part is probably removing the fan.
Power Driven Diesel thanks guys I’m new to the Cummins world so I appreciate it
I love turbos too lol. But those should be able to push well over 1k hp no?
Easily
Go big or go home!!! The fuel system won't be big enough to get there, but the turbos probably will handle it!
😳 I can’t wait
What are the turbine wheel & housing specs on the S366? T-3 or T-4, what A/R, 68 or 74 wheel?
T3 gated 080AR 73mm turbine wheel
I. Putting compounded on the 08 do they have a loud whisel
no compounds quite a truck
For 650-700hp, how would a BorgWarner EFR 9280 perform compared to a compound setup?
It will still be much lazier to light vs compounds but will still do 700 hp
I got a dps compound turbo ad before this video
Yep, they ultimately paid Google/PDD for that ad. Apparently it helps them sell their parts. We're happy you stayed tuned for the main event!
The better question is why wouldn't you want compound turbos especially on a street truck? I can sort of understand wanting a large single on a drag truck. Even there though all that time waiting for spool up. I like the supercharged compound turbo setups on diesels. No black smoke and tons of torque down low and no lag. Still don't quite understand why running a diesel rich (black smoke) gives more power. How much of a horsepower gain do you see when going from no smoke to black smoke on a performance engine? Say going from 17:1 to 15:1 AFR.
Diesels rely on auto detonation. Going extra rich will just mean more black smoke. The black smoke you see is the tune up trying to add volume to the exhaust and help spin it up. More air means more fuel. More of both means higher dynamic compression which means more heat. Get too much heat and you melt stuff so they richen it up to use the unburned fuel to pull heat from the cylinder and go out the exhaust.
There's a 690 rwhp 12v street truck at the shop with PDD's ultimate towing compound setup. The smoke threshold occurs right around the 525 to 550 RWHP mark on the dyno. Meaning, it's clean when the fueling is cut down with AFC LIVE to limit max power around 500 RWHP. If fueling is turned up further, visible haze starts to come from the tail pipe around 525 HP with heavy smoke from 580 thru 690 HP. So to answer your question, on a 500 ish HP compound turbo truck with an otherwise stock 12v engine, you can pick up an additional 150+ HP going from no smoke at 22:1 to heavy black smoke at say 12:1.
On a performance engine, the gains are even larger: The Junker Drag Truck cleans up to a fairly light haze around the 625 RWHP mark with the fuel limited to the low 400 cc range. Turning up the pump to the full 650 cc's picks up an additional 300 RWHP and fairly heavy smoke from the hood stack.
@@pddofficial That is very interesting. What about when adding nitrous? I'm trying to understand why adding more fuel on a diesel adds power. On a gasoline engine running rich causes a decrease in power, actually found a video showing someone changing the AFR and as he goes from 12:1 to 13:1 to 14:1 he gains power. Some danger in running too lean on a gasoline I don't know if diesels are like that or not I've heard no but not from an expert. I find this very interesting. Wish you guys were closer of course then I would be in person bugging you all about this stuff but that probably wouldn't work :), although I am good at turning wrenches. I do very much appreciate you all taking the time to answer these questions. Thank you very much. I'm a big fan of engines, horsepower, and efficiency. Once again thank you very much for answering my many questions.
On a diesel you dont want no smoke. You want a light haze after the turbo/turbos spool. That means you have plenty of fuel for your setup and not too much.
Question? Why don’t people use compounds on class 8 trucks! I’ve even heard of people taking compounds off acerts and going to a single! Why wouldn’t you decomp the engine and disconnect the IVA’s?
because of emissions
Power Driven Diesel Yeah i get that, but guys convert them to single turbo as well which would stuff up emissions anyway?! but you could use it in an older truck?
No one seems to be able to answer this question?
Let us all have a moment of silence, another 6.4 left us today
Oh no, those 6.4's seem to drop like flies when they hit 150k miles and have been tuned up for a while!
This one made it about 200k until front cover cavitation dumped all the coolant into the oil and trashed the cam and lifters. Ripping that garbage out and putting a good ol 12v in
Does a guy get more entry’s they more he spends ?
Yes, one entry per dollar, so bigger $ purchases end up with more entries. But, it only takes one entry to win in some cases. Random drawings are random, sometimes the guy with one name in the hat is the lucky winner, some times its the person with multiple entries that wins.
Does the aggressor have a steel thrust bearing or brass?
Brass
@@pddofficial ok just wondering keep up the good work with everything!!!
Most companies: you can make XXX with this compound set up ***if everything is perfect.
PDD: We made 2x with this compound set up. We’ll rate it for X
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Love it y’all
Like my dad use to say; "if it's got tits or turbos it will give you problems " I think he was wrong
Whoever wins this truck better cherish it or the rest of us are gonna come KICK YOUR ASS!!
We all love turbos lol
You guys should mess around with the 3.2 5 cylinder ford motors in the rangers
Girls 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🏻🙏🏻
Dude I love what you guys do .i can’t wait to use the aggressors. I believe in and support your innovation and was looking at turbos on your website but what the f**ck is that hacked together “hx super 9” doing on your website ? I know that’s not something power driven created because it Looks like a total hack work ! What’s goin on !?!
In some states with strict visual turbo inspection requirements or sled pullers in stock-appearing turbo classes, there is a huge demand for hotrodded stock looking turbos. We don't build them in-house, but they do generally get good feedback from the few that we've sold.
Wish you would put a turbo on your audio. Because the ad's are VERY LOUD and you are NOT !! I think you understand.
are you guys twins?
Heck no, Will and Todd met at a race track many years ago...
Damn near identical. Mine are boy and girl and we got "Are they identical?, constantly for the first couple of years and that was after telling people that they were a girl and a boy.
@@pddofficial No they are Twins. Like Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger!
Damn it Will please fix your crooked hat.. my OCD is killing me
That hat is old!!! We think it's misshaped and time to retire it for a new properly shaped hat....
Power Driven Diesel Never apologize for your hat. Looks good didn’t even notice.
@@pddofficial i will buy you a new one.. i will win the truck with that purchase
Yeah can't understand why your blowing up turbo's when your EGT's are off the chart and your not using any data collection to know when you have hit the limit of something... still tuning in the 1960's at Power Driven Diesel
they monitor every single thing, egt doesnt make the compressor wheel come part either, know it all
@@cs-gj3yf ohh yeah, show me where their monitoring everything? And yes excessive EGT’s and ROM is what destroys turbos…you can’t force 2000degree + air at high velocity through a constriction and not expect eventual part failure. Also just having a gauge isn’t monitoring shit. Data logging so you can see what actually happened
@@christopherbenfield7848 only thing that failed is the compressor wheels, cause they was overspun, they 100% know more then you, and they 100% have done more then you ever have, they wouldnt throw heat at it without monitoring it.
@@cs-gj3yfohhh really do you know me or do you know them personally? Cause I don’t know everything, but I do know thermodynamics and I’m not the one constantly blowing up my project/race trucks on the dyno and not having the data on what happened in order to keep it from occurring over and over…
@@cs-gj3yf ohh really? By monator you mean a gauge in the dash that moves? Thats not collecting data at ALL...know it all