I was pretty sold on a Instaspool turbo before and now its confirmed. Thanks Gavin for all your time in this video and just everything you do for the 1 gen community.
The in depth dyno comparisons are always the best to watch man, thankyou for taking the time to document all aspects of the pulls you do and the adjustments you do Also honourable mention to Bradley the turbo whisperer. He's an absolute wealth of knowledge on turbo charging and airflow after watching his channel Your shop playlist is killer, always got the best tunes going haha. Cheers from Aus
Thank ya for the opportunity to be a part of the test along with all of the time and work it took on your end to do this test. Currently watching the video 🤜🤛
Nice video brother. I found all the info real instructive. I'm considering a 60/64/12 for mine but still researching. Not looking to make crazy hp, just around 350-400. Want it more for reliable towing, so I'm concerned about egt's. From what I've been reading, this set up seems to be a good option. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Love the Contant some great information on turbos and housings are you running this on a ported head or a stock head what style injectors and what timing and is it a stock crank and a stock cam I know some engines will spool better than others what size of washer is on the injector nozzle allowing the nozzle to get further in the bowl, a five hole injector gives a little more torque than a six or a seven hole seven holes, gonna be more higher RPM versus torque And there’s two different styles of nozzles There’s about 1000 different combinations, It’s crazy how much information out there but you don’t see a lot of people testing it all depends on the compression of the cylinders I know you have a lot done to that motor and injection pump
If you notice his peak horsepower is at 2900-3000rpms. That is way higher than a stock long block setup will be peaking so for people putting these turbos on non modified trucks the results will be substantially less. Good news is the curves should basically just shift left and down but they likely will track the same on any 5.9.
I would like to know what governor spring you have on that I have a 3800 RPM and a Hungry Diesel I’ve got with you. Call it a deal you put in from the top of your pump.
No matter what charger you go with you are going to have high egts with a non ic truck, these turbos would help in your case assuming you have a stock turbo anyways right now
Hopefully this kinda helps. It’s not as bad as you think it should be without a intercooler. But. When you see what your missing out in when it comes to the mass airflow consumed by the engine with one, it helps with motivation to intercool either with a injectable or standard air to air cooler. Essentially intercooling is going to crank up your afr with no increase in boost or drive pressure via air temp. The equation is (works in any order) Engine normally aspirated cfm X pressure ratio X the weight of the air per one cubic foot. If you have 100* of air temp per 10 psi , And a 5.9 at 2,000 rpms and 30 psi gauge. Without a intercooler you would have 187 X 3.04 X .052 = 29.5 lbs minute. Changing nothing but the intercooler or injection water to bring it down to 100*, instead of .052 you have .07. Which changes the output to 39.7 lbs minute. Say your injecting 2lb of fuel a minute you have effectively changed the afr from 15-1 to 20-1 which would equate a fair reduction in egt’s, smoke opacity, and should result in a gain in power due to less rich zones in the combustion chamber. Kinda the only ways around intercooling is rpm and a oversized charger but you still start to run into mass flow friction heating even at lower boost levels. This starts to get into adiabatic temperature rise. Jason sands I think is a awesome example of how far just water injection can go :)
Bradley is a turbo sorcerer 🙌
If you make a custom downpipe that allows the wastegate to flow straight out instead of hit the wall the hx35 setup works really well actually
I was pretty sold on a Instaspool turbo before and now its confirmed. Thanks Gavin for all your time in this video and just everything you do for the 1 gen community.
Except it wasn't that.
Great Video!!!! Great info and relatable to most people. Keep it up!!!!!! Love those results, definitely helped me picking out of the line up.
The in depth dyno comparisons are always the best to watch man, thankyou for taking the time to document all aspects of the pulls you do and the adjustments you do
Also honourable mention to Bradley the turbo whisperer. He's an absolute wealth of knowledge on turbo charging and airflow after watching his channel
Your shop playlist is killer, always got the best tunes going haha. Cheers from Aus
You started your runs past where my peak power rpm even is. LOL Thanks for the great testing.
Yeahh I figured I didn't wanna do 40+ dyno runs starting at 1700rpm and then have to drive 10.5 hours right after 😂
I've got an Instaspool 63/67 9 Villian on my 94. Bradleys Turbo is a beast!
Great to see comparisons on a VE truck!
Awesome video and so helpful! And we were graced with some Red Jumpsuit Apparatus. Doesn't get better than that.
Thanks for doing this, awesome test.
brad is the man
Keep em comin bro and thanks for the info
Thinking I want a 62/67/9 from Savage fab 🤙
Weston shupe for the W!!!
110% 🔥
Thank ya for the opportunity to be a part of the test along with all of the time and work it took on your end to do this test. Currently watching the video 🤜🤛
Nice video brother. I found all the info real instructive. I'm considering a 60/64/12 for mine but still researching. Not looking to make crazy hp, just around 350-400. Want it more for reliable towing, so I'm concerned about egt's. From what I've been reading, this set up seems to be a good option. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
GREAT video super helpful
im just having trouble finding this Evan at ratman performance any chance you could put some links in the description
You'll have to get on Facebook or Instagram to get ahold of him. Name is Evan Ratcliff
@@GavinHuke thanks
Im doing a complete restoration of a 1992 d250 single cab and all this info on ve trucks is great
I had a 362sxe and it lagged to much for me. When it came on it was good but towing it sucked.
Love the Contant some great information on turbos and housings are you running this on a ported head or a stock head what style injectors and what timing and is it a stock crank and a stock cam I know some engines will spool better than others what size of washer is on the injector nozzle allowing the nozzle to get further in the bowl, a five hole injector gives a little more torque than a six or a seven hole seven holes, gonna be more higher RPM versus torque And there’s two different styles of nozzles There’s about 1000 different combinations, It’s crazy how much information out there but you don’t see a lot of people testing it all depends on the compression of the cylinders I know you have a lot done to that motor and injection pump
If you notice his peak horsepower is at 2900-3000rpms. That is way higher than a stock long block setup will be peaking so for people putting these turbos on non modified trucks the results will be substantially less. Good news is the curves should basically just shift left and down but they likely will track the same on any 5.9.
Borg would have been interesting....as would have a stock HX35 ;)
I would like to know what governor spring you have on that I have a 3800 RPM and a Hungry Diesel I’ve got with you. Call it a deal you put in from the top of your pump.
Its a clipped 3800 spring in mine. If I run it way out it turns just over 4200 rpm
Thinking about EGTs. I have a non intercooled truck. Should i stay away from any of theses upgrades because of higher EGTs?
No matter what charger you go with you are going to have high egts with a non ic truck, these turbos would help in your case assuming you have a stock turbo anyways right now
Hopefully this kinda helps. It’s not as bad as you think it should be without a intercooler. But. When you see what your missing out in when it comes to the mass airflow consumed by the engine with one, it helps with motivation to intercool either with a injectable or standard air to air cooler.
Essentially intercooling is going to crank up your afr with no increase in boost or drive pressure via air temp. The equation is (works in any order)
Engine normally aspirated cfm X pressure ratio X the weight of the air per one cubic foot.
If you have 100* of air temp per 10 psi ,
And a 5.9 at 2,000 rpms and 30 psi gauge. Without a intercooler you would have 187 X 3.04 X .052 = 29.5 lbs minute. Changing nothing but the intercooler or injection water to bring it down to 100*, instead of .052 you have .07. Which changes the output to 39.7 lbs minute. Say your injecting 2lb of fuel a minute you have effectively changed the afr from 15-1 to 20-1 which would equate a fair reduction in egt’s, smoke opacity, and should result in a gain in power due to less rich zones in the combustion chamber. Kinda the only ways around intercooling is rpm and a oversized charger but you still start to run into mass flow friction heating even at lower boost levels. This starts to get into adiabatic temperature rise.
Jason sands I think is a awesome example of how far just water injection can go :)
@@savagefabrication795 Thanks! This helps a ton!
This makes me wonder what i have left on the table ,93 d250 thd pump 5x16 inj dap screaming eagle s363/68
Won't make very much with that injector, turbo will maybe do 500 on a VE truck but borg 68 turbines simply suck on these things
If I just ditch the 363 and go compound what would be the go to? The last truck I built was 800hp 4 door 4th gen very fun street truck,
@fastturtle4104 you could keep the 363 on the manifold and put a 485 or 488 out front. Which thd pump do you have
@@GavinHuke 12m comp pump
Honestly I wish I would have known things I know now then money spent then,live and learn
Well i only get 23 psi s362/65.12 ddp stage 1 injectorsaybe a boost leak?
@@fidelvazquez7469 yep id look for boost leaks
@@GavinHuke thanks i will look for that i also have fass 165 3800rpm governor spring and stage 2 fuel pin
@fidelvazquez7469 probably a mix of boost leak and some pump tuning
@@GavinHuke thanks i will look into it
@@GavinHuke 3 boost leaks intercooler a small one and intake plus turbo elbow tomorrow i will do timing back to stock