It’s always like that. All the trainings, the talks with higher ranked- it’s all a stage so they could go on and on about themselves. They are either a martyr who suffered or a boss babe who is living the dream
This lady saying she eliminated all distractions, to include not dating and feeding her kid sandwiches, didn't realize she said her kid is a distraction. So sad
The part that gets me is...these MLM leaders have the presentation skills and speaking abilities of a high school prom date. It's hilarious to listen to
@@JayMaverickwhoa. I've noticed the trend in fundie and MLM circles, but not connected the two with those words. The mask really comes off and the anger and fright and desperation remains.
Always! It always starts with how “excited” they are and then ends up with simply yelling as they yap about how amazing they are unlike the others. Sheesh
You know it really baffles me about all these ladies wanting to go on a vacation together with a bunch of women they might not even know? As an introvert that sounds like my worst nightmare.
Yeah, I went on a business trip this summer for my dreaded 9-5, with my team lead and director, and I was so, SO grateful to have my own hotel room and not be sitting with my coworkers on the plane. I like them, but it being my first business trip I was under a lot of pressure, and really appreciated having space to decompress.
I just quit a MLM. I joined because I was on maternity leave and my boyfriend works away in the middle of the ocean, I wanted to just have a “community” of friends and support. Anyways, I joined thinking that you can work when you want and whenever you want, like they advertised. So I just started it as a little hobby, then I kept getting all this pressure from my upline that if I want anything from this company, I need new blood and to start my own team, so I started messaging people (which made me cringe) because that’s not what I wanted originally. They keep throwing the trips and “free car” in your face. I honestly thought it was a free car until my boyfriend did the research and quickly brought me back to reality. Thank god I escaped. I was on my phone SO much so I wouldn’t feel like I was disappointing anyone. Anyways, I quit and I definitely hit a nerve in my upline. They messaged me right away trying to change my decision. Honestly I’ve only been with the company for 5 months, I lost so much quality time with my family and newborn. It was a nightmare. I have a real career, I’m a nurse, and my boss would never put that pressure on me like that… EVER. So much false dreams and hope poured into you, but that’s because you’re making the TOP people money. It’s scary. I can see how people find it so hard to quit, you’re brainwashed. Also we had 3 meetings a week untop of all that constant work for maybe 120 dollars extra a month… no thanks. Please educate yourself people! Xox
I’m so glad you got out when you did! These recruitment based businesses seem very cult-like: lots of love bombing when you join, then excommunication if you want to leave. I wonder how many hours a week you have to put in to be ‘successful’. Like. Yeah, maybe you’re ‘home’ … but do you get to leave work at work? Are you able to be present when you’re home?
Congratulations girl you dodged a bullet when you left I admire you for all the time effort and intelligence it takes to become a nurse… I know with my visual disability and severe ADHD that would never happen for me… I only have light perception in one of my eyes the other one has about a fourth of the vision of a normal person… but furthermore I can respect that you saw your way out of your MLM so quickly… I was always taught to simply go with my intuition and if something doesn’t feel right most likely it doesn’t feel right for a reason… I almost got recruited several times by several different MLM’s but my intuition told me that they were just trying to recruit me because they thought they could use my disability as a springboard they saw me as an easy target… I was saved by the fact that I knew first of all that it didn’t feel right// and second of all that I knew I couldn’t sell any product being The introverted person that I am… my enjoyment in life comes from reading and learning not social interactions
If you want a hobby, learn guitar. Just 30 minutes a day to learn guitar. Record yourself on Day 1 and put that recording aside. When it’s been 5 months, watch that recording from Day 1. You will be amazed at how much you’ve accomplished in 5 months and it will be way more impressive than what you accomplished in an MLM. And you don’t need to be musically inclined. I wasn’t and I’ve been playing for 20 years.
I wouldn’t be surprised after this zoom call she has about 10 to 20 people that drop off and quit and say screw this. Because if I was on her team she would never hear from me again.
This just sounds like the worst corporate job imaginable. Constant zoom calls with basically nothing of value being communicated, intense pressure to meet a goal or else you’re not “pulling your weight”, expectation to dedicate your entire life to the company, all without a salary or benefits AND you have to pay money to participate. But of course they’ll keep talking down on 9 to 5s.
You don't want to be in a 9 to 5 - no, you want to be waking up to join a 5am zoom call, working all day, never dating, and being so exhausted from all the work you can't even make it to bed. Sounds amazing!
The "Drop a 1 if.." thing could also be their way of trying to keep tabs on which members of their team are actively engaged with the conversation/meeting, that way they know which members of their team are unengaged and who they need to follow up with (aka love bomb) to keep them in.
I think people forget why the algorithm likes that kind of engagement and why it’s called engagement. Its because it’s an indicator that the audience is engaged with the content. The algorithm was created by people who were trying to find reliable ways to measure whether people enjoy the content or not. So it is a good measure in general, not just because the algorithm thinks it is. Hope that makes sense.
@@kmhkennedy That’s true, but since this is a zoom call that we’re watching, not a RUclips video, I don’t think any algorithms would apply in this case.
I pinned a post on my Facebook that says "friend requesting someone you don't normally talk to in order to ask them to join your pyramid scheme is the most disrespectful shit" with a link to your deep dives playlist.
@@BA-yx5sg I saw that the girl who added me the other day had only just joined Arbonne this month so I sent her a link to the Arbonne deep dive and a nice message about how I know someone who lost a lot in the business. She said she was sorry to hear that and I blocked her.
I grew up in an Amway household with stockpiles of their products in my home but no food in the fridge. I was anti MLM when I was 12 years old lol (which was in 1993)
@@jilliank4157 Several years ago, I had a friend post on FB saying she was starting a small business. And was asking friends if they would sit in on a Facebook live chat where she talked about her business. She asked me personally if I'd watch her FB live thing. I agreed. I got to it. And a few min in, I realized I was the only person who showed up. Turned out it wasn't her own "small business". It was her selling Arbonne. Had never heard of Arbonne before. But by partway through her "live chat", I was definitely getting MLM vibes. And the whole thing was just her & her "mentor" (her upline). And most of it was just her upline going on & on about how awesome my friend was. How motivated & successful my friend was gonna be. Etc etc. Was the most cringy thing ever They tried to recruit me too, but I gave a hard pass. I was also broke af at the time. So really couldn't afford to join & or buy any products anyway. And the kicker, she sent me Arbonne products for either Christmas or my birthday one year too (can't remember which).
I am so happy I was in an MLM 25 yrs ago before zoom calls 🤣 we had phones, pagers and fax machine an Thursday recruitment meeting an Saturday morning meeting... an that was a lot I can't imagine being screamed at in my own home virtually.
No amount of money can EVER buy back the time lost with friends and family to these predatory "businesses." There are SO MANY agencies and nonprofits who will help you figure out how to get help with childcare, housing, transportation, and education to get fair pay for work you actually want to do, and NONE of it involves telling you that you aren't trying hard enough. This is heinous BS.
“We are switching it up, we are going back to basics”...so which one is it? They really love smashing contradictory things together and pretend like it all makes sense.
Don't worry I believe she's lying, if she was a high level educator she would know stage 4 cancer is terminal and can't be cured. She wouldn't have used the absolutely worse form to guilt trip these poor gullible women. Someone in education would know stage 4 is a death sentence. It's despicable but there's no doubt in my mind she's a liar. Definitely not an educator.
When it comes to asking her downline to work harder harder harder, it's a team effort. When it comes to the upline getting big bonuses, she earned those herself by hustling
She tries to make her life this huge sob story of how she was a single mom living out of a room at her moms house and how difficult it was. But the fact she was living in her moms house already gives her an advantage from other people in a similar position. She probably did not have to pay tons in rent which already gave her a leg up to buying her own house. She also had her mom around which gave her support and mostly likely assistance with her children. Not really the same as a single mother living as the only adult in the household. She was able to save a lot of money that way.
Especially when she later patronized her down line by praising the people in relationships for having a support system but never saying “like I did” because the sad story about leaving her baby daddy and sleeping on a couch would hit harder than saying “my mom helped me to raise my child while I was being scammed”
Thanks for sharing this. It clearly shows that it’s all about recruiting. No goals for selling products; the only goal is recruiting more sales people.
The only people that talk this much about recruiting outside of an mlm work in hr. Hell, I work in hr. And we never even try to talk about HOW we are getting numbers. It’s always about quality, requirements and role charters, compatibility with the company and values, diversity, tests…. Because a normal business needs quality and longevity, never quantity. If we had the goal to get 5k employees? We have issues. Big issues with employee retention.
How disappointing is entering a zoom call expecting a powerful training for business success and making money, and ending up listening to a bunch of egotistic people talking about how "amazing" and "resilient" they are.
I wish I would of screenshot the absolutely obsurd message I received from a Beach Body babe. She wouldn't take no for an answer. And finally my breaking point was her making the comment "if you have time to be on Instagram, you have time to run this business. You're just not motivated enough to try and better yourself and your life." To which I replied "When someone says they don't have time, it doesn't literally mean they don't have the time. It means the time they do have free is too valuable to them and they don't want to spend it losing money to a pyramid scheme!" To which she said "Let's agree to disagree..." And I blocked her as she was still typing up a paragraph.
I love the concept of “my time is valuable.” Because our time IS valuable. I don’t owe it to you, random hun in my inbox. And don’t you dare tell me what to do with it, spend your own 24 hours.
It is so painful listening to these calls. The "leaders" are either constantly talking about themselves or repeating the same 1 or 2 points for a friggin hour.
Not to mention the tone of her voice is just so unbelievably hard to listen to, she is so shrill and agressive, I can not imagine finding this motivating! It is "literally" horrible!
I’ve been in a professional career for 10 years and at no point have I been lectured at for an hour while being called ‘you guys’ twice a minute. So infuriating to listen to!
What gets me is all these ladies in their twenties putting all there energy in Monat. They are going to leave the company and have to start over. With no college education and no job experience.
The amount of times she said "we just want you guys to know" "I wanted to let you guys know" was driving me crazy. Maybe I was being hyper critical because I used to be a trainer but every time she said it I just wanted to scream "DROP THE FILLER PHRASES."
No this annoyed me so much. and the "you guys, I can't, ugh, i was, you know what you guys, i really literally went, guys, and you know what, you guys really need to --" (repeat for a solid 2 minutes before actually figuring out what the sentence is about)
@@reidleblanc3140 it just makes them sound like high schoolers. It’s painful. If I was being “trained” by someone talking like that I’d leave immediately
I get so annoyed when someone inserts "you guys" in their sperch too often!! It's also generally a litmus test whether someone making content online is toxic 😂tge "you guys" ones are almost always the worst... and if they're not, it's still very annoying and I peqce out right away regardless
At some point I realised she kept saying 'and let me tell you something-' again and again and again and it was simultaneously absolutely ear-grating and hilarious
I’ve never heard about an MLM before and I’m not sure how these videos ended up on my homepage, but I can’t stop watching this content. These zoom videos are insane.
Its funny that you talk about group chats. I had my mlm chats to ding a certain sounds. Ive been out a year now and I heard someones phone that had the same notification. Immediate PTSD. My heart started racing like I was already behind on something that was very important.
I don't like that one of the speakers asked, what are you sacrificing for the MLM? Why do you need to sacrifice for a job? Not even a job, because a job pays you. I exchange my time for a pay cheque, benefits, job security, pension, medical, training, etc. It feels fair to me. Also, I am so beyond annoyed with the concept that effort equals success. There is zero correlation between how hard you work and the amount of income you make.
I think the most effective lies are twisted truths. There is truth that hard work is more often rewarded more than laziness. If you show up on time to your job, complete your tasks well, have a good attitude, are helpful to other people and essentially work hard then you are more likely to get things like promotions and good references for positions that do increase your income. Whereas if you are lazy on the job, show up late or call out all the time, cause drama and don't complete your tasks then you're not as likely to get promotions or even good references for positions that can increase your income. But these people in MLM's twist it to tell people that your success is ONLY related to how hard you work. Hard work is only one aspect of success, it does have an influence but it's the end all be all of what determines success like they're pitching it.
I love how that one Hun flexes not having a partner (that she says she wants btw vs just not being interested in romance) in favor of "pursuing her dream" because apparently you can't follow your dreams *and* have a fulfilled romantic and/or social life or live comfortably, no you have to literally be a slave to your dream to "deserve" it. That mindset borders on outright psychotic, imo.
100% agree on the group chats. My hubby has a really large family, and recently his elderly aunt had a fall. She's fine, but the whole family was added to a group chat to keep us all up to date. It was usually just one or two people posting updates, but cue all the rest of the family saying OK or giving thumbs up. My phone was constantly dinging at me for nearly a week. I was really happy that auntie was doing well, and I had married into such a supportive family, but by the end of it I was utterly exhausted.
I love how these calls that are pushed as "training calls", are really just berating sessions. Where your upline just gets on a call to tell you how awesome they are, and how much you suck because you're not them. In what other work environment would this be acceptable?? If this happened literally anywhere else, any one of these girls would leave the call and quit their job. It's mind-boggling to hear this girl verbally crush these girls. She goes on about their potential as human beings, and then flips the switch and tells them that they're not reaching that potential because they're not passionate enough about shampoo. No. These girls have far more potential than listening to someone tell them their worth is tied to this business. Ugh. And what this girl thinks are things to be proud of - not dating or having a life - is actually really sad. If these training calls were filled with things that they REALLY mean, they'd say things like "If you try hard enough, you could have no life, too!" Or "If you believe in yourself enough, you could give up everything that matters to you, too... and only work this business, and do nothing else!" Ahhhhhhjnjhjkmhgdg....!!!
This is SOOOOOOO micromanaging to me..... I have a full time job and if my manager need my attention outside of my work hours I'd demand pay for that. I have been binging for weeks now. Eyes are widening at the manipulation.
Almost every MLM call I've heard is basically a "motivational" diatribe where the hun berates and bullies her downline. Crazy how her downline could tolerate listening to this type of call.
I’ve binged a lot of anti-mlm type videos (it’s a weird youtube category I’ve sort of fallen into lately) but this one was the first where it really hit me just how damn degrading these ’businesses’ can be. Amazing how people see a few thousand a year as enough to manipulate and bring down the mental health of others who are often very similar to them. Thank you for making this video, and congrats on 20k subscribers!
THANK YOU for addressing the income tax implications of those damn trips!! I’m a tax accountant and it irks me to no end how these people and these companies refuse to explain how these activities will affect a person’s taxes at the end of the year!! I do corporate tax, but I did individual taxes while getting my master’s and so many people would be baffled by how taxes worked when they were self-employed.
First, Cooper is absolutely adorable🥰 Secondly, how the heck this poor downline is supposed to recruit 5000 people considering that the AntiMLM movement is growing AND that there’s others MLMs out there? How? They should sprint away from this. 😱
God, I would hate to lose an hour of my morning EVERY DAY just to be talked to by someone who only sees me as a dollar sign. I hope these people come to their senses and hopefully find a job that treats them well
Wow. For some reason this was one of the crazier MLM group calls I've seen. When you really dig into the little things they're saying it makes my jaw drop. To see how manipulative and calculated they really are with every single thing they say.. Ugh so gross. But great job here Hannah!
New subscriber here 🙋🏻♀️ Thank you for doing this content. I enjoy listening to you. The mlm I left about a year ago was Color Street. So glad to be out & found the Anti-MLM community. I wish MLM'S didn't exist. All the MLM'S that are claiming free vehicles & free trips....the only thing that's free is all your time & energy spent marketing, recruiting, etc. I'm so tired of the same rhetoric in every. single. mlm. They aren't even getting paid for all those zoom meetings, and not getting paid for posting on social media. You have to live & breathe your MLM. I could go on & on....but you know. LoL
Bingo! This business, mindset, mentor, upline, my story, income claims, personal development…same old verbal diarrhea that flows out of all these “leaders”.
As disgusting and selfish as it is for them to be so intent on recruiting 5,000 more people into their downline, they may as well be screaming to the world, "It's not about selling shampoo!" Because if it was about the shampoo, all they'd be doing is increasing their competition by 5,000 more "small business owners."
When she says 'i want to impact lives, I want to change lives', yeah you're not wrong lady, impacting and changing for the WORST for your own benefit. Surely someone on this call has the sense to see that the numbers are unrealistic and unobtainable, I sure hope so. Ugh, so gross
@@HannahAlonzo she also says she was also a single mum while working in a dealership and doing Monat, but lived in a room at her mother's house. So I'm guessing she had free child care... Just one of many points she leaves out of her story and why? Coz others aren't so lucky, but they're still gonna be made to feel guilty that they're not doing enough. It makes me sick.
@@tash4270 when she said “Those of you who have a spouse, be happy because you have a support network” I about fell out of my chair over how much she just took her mom for granted. I can only imagine how people on the call who ACTUALLY have no support system felt when she said that, I immediately thought of my friends that moved to America from other continents… if their plans don’t work out there isn’t a moms house to move back into.
I don't make tons of money, but I work for Veterans Affairs, 630am to 3pm, I have paid days off, weekends off, paid federal holidays, AND retirement. I hope the ones that DO make loads of money are saving it for their health insurance and retirement. I'm home by 330pm, weekends off and I don't think about work when I'm home relaxing.
It’s funny how she says “I” when it come to the ranks and money and “we” when describing how she got the money/rank and how she will accomplish more ranks and money by way of recruiting and so called changing lives. SMH 🤮
Thank you for making this video. I was in an MLM for a little less than a year. It is frustrating when you don't make a cent, and when you try to "recruit" people and they don't show up to these meetings, you're being made to feel like a failure. All this rhetoric is very familiar, and I felt awful leaving, believing that if I stuck it out just a little longer, I'd probably see some financial gain. Glad I left.
It's always baffled me how much emphasis there is in hustle culture with making yourself utterly miserable, destroying your physical, psychological, and social well-being, all just to make more money. Like, if you're not destroying yourself, you're not working harm enough and there is nothing more admirable than self-destruction.
4-5x 500/month is 2000-2500. You CAN make that in a corporate setting and log off at 5pm and be with your family and not have to sleep on the couch and feed your child sandwiches. SMH.
As a stage 1 kidney cancer survivor, I would never give up my job and healthcare that saved our asses when I was diagnosed, had surgery for and are still using with followup care every year (been 4 years now it's not cheap). It's probably more for a Stage 4 cancer survivor.
Who the heck is going to wake up at 5am for a M0nat Zoom call? WTF? There is literally no way I could do that. NOPE! Edit: I want a follow up in December. Do you think they'll make it.
I loved the sassy Hannah coming out today! Lol you're still so knowledgeable and well-spoken, but with a lil Spiciness today 🌶🌶🔥 Also this call is insane. She is literally admitting that this entire "business" is literally recruiting 🙃 There was NO talk about products during an entire hour long call.... like how could this not be a red flag for the people on this call? ALSO. Team calls 6 DAYS A WEEK?! But yet they demonize 9-5 jobs that are usually 5 days a week.... Make it make sense?
I’ve envied my husbands job because when his shift is over, he can just walk away even mid project and the next crew takes over. As a social worker, you have a caseload and if you don’t get something done then it’s waiting there for you the next day. It has created a tremendous amount of anxiety in my life and added to some major health issues I have stepped away from my job to raise our son and volunteer in our community and at his school.
... so what happened to time freedom... work your ass off, don't date, focus on your dream first and foremost, work harder. I love my job more and more every day if I'm not out by 5 I'm getting kicked out by my boss.
She cares about them more than they care about themselves?! Lol, no girl, you care about the money they will make you if they get more people on board and rank up.
I also think the "put a xyz in the chat" on a zoom call makes the "little people" feel more connected, important, and reinforces the parasocial relationship, which will make the person more likely to blindly follow them.
@@HannahAlonzo for people in the top ranks, it seems like there's some stress on parasocial relationships, how they work, why they work, and how someone can use such a dynamic to their advantage.
They talk all the time about boring and unfulfilling corporate jobs, but at least my boring and unfulfilling corporate job only had me do two meetings a week
Hannah, your eye rolls 🙄are EVERYTHING! LOL I love how expressive your face is when you hear MLM bs. Your body has an involuntary reaction to it. Love it ❤️!
I haven’t even watched the entire video and I already have to say something. If any of the members of this team come across this video, I’m here to tell you that you do NOT have to put up with this bullsh!t. If you have a nagging feeling in the back of your mind that this “Project 5000” thing isn’t about “impacting lives”, it’s about getting your top gal to SED, you’re right. You deserve better. You can walk away. Cancel your account. You can breathe. You’re allowed to breathe. And we’re here to support you while you decompress from the Monat experience.
I was thinking the same; I'd make a HORRIBLE downline because I'd be calling bullsh*t on some of these things being said during this call. Like raising my hand and saying, "EXCUSE me, what did you just say???"
I’ve been binging your content for the past 2 days straight. You’re such a well spoken person and so fun to listen to while being educational about this at the same time! I’ve heard you in a few videos that you could write these zoom calls yourself at this point, it makes me want to see you parody one yourself haha
Omg I literally JUST discovered her from a truecrime RUclipsr who recommended her anti-MLM content 2 nights ago and cannot stop binge watching!! Lol 😅 I never even knew this content existed nor that I would be so intrigued by it!
@@MaddyIntravia That’s funny because one of her videos was recommended to me while I was also watching a true crime RUclipsr lol! She is super bingeable! 😆
5:00 not me forgetting what you said about text tones IMMEDIATELY and checking my phone twenty times like “where’s the text my guy your pinging but no text” 🤦🤦🤦🙈
I literally don’t understand the “quitting a regular 9-5” to spend more time with their kids, but then being told to make the business work they need to limit all time with anything outside of the mlm 🧐🧐
This is absolutely insane. I discovered your channel recently and have been catching up. Always knew MLMs are sketchy but never knew what goes on being the scenes. Unreal!
Proud of you! These guys are manipulative. You cant be too hard on yourself. In fact it's amazing that you could see their true colors even after being in. It takes guts to admit you're wrong and not double down
This was me I was like going maniac at my job because I felt like I wasn’t doing enough that I had forcefully do all these things like post pictures tictoks loves shares products I felt like I was behind until I literally broke down at work and I’m like wtf why am I feeling this way and why am I feeding into this thing that isn’t working for me
I love that even the blur cannot hide the boredom of the captives I mean consultants.
YES! I’m glad you can still get that sense through the blur 🤣 people were zoning out hardcore
'Captives' perfect choice of word.
Oh bahahahaha lololol
I am waiting for people doing their nails, fixing contacts, cleaning jewelry, clipping cat claws, and naturally, picking their noses.
Captives, I cackled LOL
I find it so weird that they are in a call to improve sales and they did not mentioned the product 1 time.
Such a good point!! Insane
It’s always like that. All the trainings, the talks with higher ranked- it’s all a stage so they could go on and on about themselves. They are either a martyr who suffered or a boss babe who is living the dream
@@litalpeled2055Or a bit of both from what I've noticed.
This lady saying she eliminated all distractions, to include not dating and feeding her kid sandwiches, didn't realize she said her kid is a distraction. So sad
Right! And she thinks it's a flex 🤦♀
this is not the flex she thinks it is and frankly it's an incredibly unhealthy thing to encourage other people to do.
Kids are kinda a burden moreover if you are a single mom. You can't understand if you are not one
@@lexyhartmann4396 not a flex a reality
And yet there is nothing wrong with feeding kids sandwiches 🥪
The part that gets me is...these MLM leaders have the presentation skills and speaking abilities of a high school prom date. It's hilarious to listen to
Lidl-edly!
all thanks to self-development nd mindset🤭
So, timeline note… She started March 2020. Do we all remember a little thing happening then that might have made recruiting easier?
and how about going in winning trips in the middle of a PANDEMIC?
March of 2020? Nah, I didn't think anything was happening then... 😅
Why do they get louder, meaner, and shrill as the call goes on?
It's quite the spectacle when the cult mask comes off and reveals an angry, frightened and desperate person.
@@JayMaverickwhoa. I've noticed the trend in fundie and MLM circles, but not connected the two with those words. The mask really comes off and the anger and fright and desperation remains.
Super annoying
Always! It always starts with how “excited” they are and then ends up with simply yelling as they yap about how amazing they are unlike the others. Sheesh
You know it really baffles me about all these ladies wanting to go on a vacation together with a bunch of women they might not even know? As an introvert that sounds like my worst nightmare.
Right? I mean, I know people go on business trips. But if I'm going on vacation, I don't want to go and have to sit through this live in person.
Also...Imagine going with one of those executive directors...Just the thought is EXHAUSTING.
It’s like a whole timeshare vacation where you have to spend all your time with a huge crowd of strangers. Ugh.
Im also an introvert & agree 100% with you! I'd much rather stay home then go on vacation with a bunch of strangers. Lol.
Yeah, I went on a business trip this summer for my dreaded 9-5, with my team lead and director, and I was so, SO grateful to have my own hotel room and not be sitting with my coworkers on the plane. I like them, but it being my first business trip I was under a lot of pressure, and really appreciated having space to decompress.
I just quit a MLM. I joined because I was on maternity leave and my boyfriend works away in the middle of the ocean, I wanted to just have a “community” of friends and support. Anyways, I joined thinking that you can work when you want and whenever you want, like they advertised. So I just started it as a little hobby, then I kept getting all this pressure from my upline that if I want anything from this company, I need new blood and to start my own team, so I started messaging people (which made me cringe) because that’s not what I wanted originally. They keep throwing the trips and “free car” in your face. I honestly thought it was a free car until my boyfriend did the research and quickly brought me back to reality. Thank god I escaped. I was on my phone SO much so I wouldn’t feel like I was disappointing anyone.
Anyways, I quit and I definitely hit a nerve in my upline. They messaged me right away trying to change my decision.
Honestly I’ve only been with the company for 5 months, I lost so much quality time with my family and newborn. It was a nightmare. I have a real career, I’m a nurse, and my boss would never put that pressure on me like that… EVER.
So much false dreams and hope poured into you, but that’s because you’re making the TOP people money. It’s scary. I can see how people find it so hard to quit, you’re brainwashed.
Also we had 3 meetings a week untop of all that constant work for maybe 120 dollars extra a month… no thanks.
Please educate yourself people! Xox
I’m so glad you got out when you did!
These recruitment based businesses seem very cult-like: lots of love bombing when you join, then excommunication if you want to leave.
I wonder how many hours a week you have to put in to be ‘successful’. Like. Yeah, maybe you’re ‘home’ … but do you get to leave work at work? Are you able to be present when you’re home?
@@DogDocLou perfectly said. Many may disagree, but this kind of activity is exactly like a religion….
Congratulations girl you dodged a bullet when you left
I admire you for all the time effort and intelligence it takes to become a nurse… I know with my visual disability and severe ADHD that would never happen for me… I only have light perception in one of my eyes the other one has about a fourth of the vision of a normal person… but furthermore I can respect that you saw your way out of your MLM so quickly… I was always taught to simply go with my intuition and if something doesn’t feel right most likely it doesn’t feel right for a reason… I almost got recruited several times by several different MLM’s but my intuition told me that they were just trying to recruit me because they thought they could use my disability as a springboard they saw me as an easy target… I was saved by the fact that I knew first of all that it didn’t feel right// and second of all that I knew I couldn’t sell any product being The introverted person that I am… my enjoyment in life comes from reading and learning not social interactions
If you want a hobby, learn guitar. Just 30 minutes a day to learn guitar. Record yourself on Day 1 and put that recording aside. When it’s been 5 months, watch that recording from Day 1. You will be amazed at how much you’ve accomplished in 5 months and it will be way more impressive than what you accomplished in an MLM.
And you don’t need to be musically inclined. I wasn’t and I’ve been playing for 20 years.
What? Lol you could say that about any hobby. Working out, chess or any other instrument.
Those alarms going off from that Hun's phone is God trying to get her to stop.
🤣🤣🤣 best comment so far
Love this 😂🤣
I wouldn’t be surprised after this zoom call she has about 10 to 20 people that drop off and quit and say screw this. Because if I was on her team she would never hear from me again.
Shann saying what we’re all thinking 🤣
🤣🤣🤣 sometimes i wonder if these peeople dont secretely enjoy being yelled at because it makes absolutely NO sense.
Right!? Like that's HER goal but I didn't have a say in that! If I'm supposed to be able to run "my business" why is she setting all the goals? 🤔
I want a Monat zoom call where the Down line talks back to the up line and it becomes a big fight
Id watch that spoof
This just sounds like the worst corporate job imaginable. Constant zoom calls with basically nothing of value being communicated, intense pressure to meet a goal or else you’re not “pulling your weight”, expectation to dedicate your entire life to the company, all without a salary or benefits AND you have to pay money to participate. But of course they’ll keep talking down on 9 to 5s.
This is the epitome of “it could’ve been email”
This is not motivating or informative. How do these inarticulate women motivate anyone?
exactly. These girls just droned on and on and i wanted to scream. I was in M ary Kay for a while, and I got so antsy.
You don't want to be in a 9 to 5 - no, you want to be waking up to join a 5am zoom call, working all day, never dating, and being so exhausted from all the work you can't even make it to bed. Sounds amazing!
A 5:00 AM UNPAID work call, EVERY SINGLE WEEK. So much for owning your business.
dude I don't even wanna be at work at either of my jobs that PAY me that early lol
The "Drop a 1 if.." thing could also be their way of trying to keep tabs on which members of their team are actively engaged with the conversation/meeting, that way they know which members of their team are unengaged and who they need to follow up with (aka love bomb) to keep them in.
Very true, good point!!
Yes... this!
It's also a way to socially pressure them to commit, which makes it harder to leave afterwards
I think people forget why the algorithm likes that kind of engagement and why it’s called engagement. Its because it’s an indicator that the audience is engaged with the content. The algorithm was created by people who were trying to find reliable ways to measure whether people enjoy the content or not. So it is a good measure in general, not just because the algorithm thinks it is.
Hope that makes sense.
@@kmhkennedy That’s true, but since this is a zoom call that we’re watching, not a RUclips video, I don’t think any algorithms would apply in this case.
When you pointed out all the people in the call still multi tasking and being told they’re not working hard enough made me wanna cry lol
Same. I feel for those women.
I pinned a post on my Facebook that says "friend requesting someone you don't normally talk to in order to ask them to join your pyramid scheme is the most disrespectful shit" with a link to your deep dives playlist.
JILLIANNNNN! This is a boss move, I support it 🤣
Just got a message from a high school friend. She’s on her 3rd MLM that I know of. Trying to add me to a group. It’s so frustrating.
@@BA-yx5sg I saw that the girl who added me the other day had only just joined Arbonne this month so I sent her a link to the Arbonne deep dive and a nice message about how I know someone who lost a lot in the business. She said she was sorry to hear that and I blocked her.
I grew up in an Amway household with stockpiles of their products in my home but no food in the fridge. I was anti MLM when I was 12 years old lol (which was in 1993)
@@jilliank4157 Several years ago, I had a friend post on FB saying she was starting a small business. And was asking friends if they would sit in on a Facebook live chat where she talked about her business. She asked me personally if I'd watch her FB live thing. I agreed.
I got to it. And a few min in, I realized I was the only person who showed up. Turned out it wasn't her own "small business". It was her selling Arbonne. Had never heard of Arbonne before. But by partway through her "live chat", I was definitely getting MLM vibes. And the whole thing was just her & her "mentor" (her upline). And most of it was just her upline going on & on about how awesome my friend was. How motivated & successful my friend was gonna be. Etc etc. Was the most cringy thing ever
They tried to recruit me too, but I gave a hard pass. I was also broke af at the time. So really couldn't afford to join & or buy any products anyway.
And the kicker, she sent me Arbonne products for either Christmas or my birthday one year too (can't remember which).
I am so happy I was in an MLM 25 yrs ago before zoom calls 🤣 we had phones, pagers and fax machine an Thursday recruitment meeting an Saturday morning meeting... an that was a lot I can't imagine being screamed at in my own home virtually.
Hahaha look at the bright side! 🤣
Lol 🙌🏾💯
🤣🤣🤣
No amount of money can EVER buy back the time lost with friends and family to these predatory "businesses." There are SO MANY agencies and nonprofits who will help you figure out how to get help with childcare, housing, transportation, and education to get fair pay for work you actually want to do, and NONE of it involves telling you that you aren't trying hard enough. This is heinous BS.
And once more for the people clinging to the top of the pyramid: Compulsory, unpaid meetings are a theft of people's time.
"LITERALLY."
Yes, Social services exist for a reason.
If their use of the word "literally" was a drinking game, I would have died of alcohol poisoning by now.
I have started playing M&M bingo when we listen to these. Every time there is a MLM buzz word I have an M&M. I now need to get more.
Oh my goodness I love this so much
Just listening to that call burnt me out. I can't imagine actually being on that team (or any team like that). How emotionally draining.
“We are switching it up, we are going back to basics”...so which one is it? They really love smashing contradictory things together and pretend like it all makes sense.
Omg my heart dropped when that lady said she was quitting her job an going "full time" 😳 I hope someone in her family talks her out of it.
Don't worry I believe she's lying, if she was a high level educator she would know stage 4 cancer is terminal and can't be cured. She wouldn't have used the absolutely worse form to guilt trip these poor gullible women. Someone in education would know stage 4 is a death sentence. It's despicable but there's no doubt in my mind she's a liar. Definitely not an educator.
For your information some cancer can be cured aven at stage 4. Stage 4 does not Mena that you will die. It depend on the type of cancer.
When it comes to asking her downline to work harder harder harder, it's a team effort.
When it comes to the upline getting big bonuses, she earned those herself by hustling
Exactly!!
She tries to make her life this huge sob story of how she was a single mom living out of a room at her moms house and how difficult it was. But the fact she was living in her moms house already gives her an advantage from other people in a similar position. She probably did not have to pay tons in rent which already gave her a leg up to buying her own house. She also had her mom around which gave her support and mostly likely assistance with her children. Not really the same as a single mother living as the only adult in the household. She was able to save a lot of money that way.
She's not a single mom if there's 2 adults taking care of children in the same home.
Especially when she later patronized her down line by praising the people in relationships for having a support system but never saying “like I did” because the sad story about leaving her baby daddy and sleeping on a couch would hit harder than saying “my mom helped me to raise my child while I was being scammed”
💯 Exactly this!! Her mother was her support system for her child and for herself being a single mom. She needs to give her mother credit for that!!
Thanks for sharing this. It clearly shows that it’s all about recruiting. No goals for selling products; the only goal is recruiting more sales people.
Exactly! Thanks for watching 🥰
The only people that talk this much about recruiting outside of an mlm work in hr.
Hell, I work in hr. And we never even try to talk about HOW we are getting numbers. It’s always about quality, requirements and role charters, compatibility with the company and values, diversity, tests….
Because a normal business needs quality and longevity, never quantity.
If we had the goal to get 5k employees? We have issues. Big issues with employee retention.
How disappointing is entering a zoom call expecting a powerful training for business success and making money, and ending up listening to a bunch of egotistic people talking about how "amazing" and "resilient" they are.
There were no actual strategies or planning on this call. No explanation of tangible ways to reach that random goal they created.
I wish I would of screenshot the absolutely obsurd message I received from a Beach Body babe. She wouldn't take no for an answer. And finally my breaking point was her making the comment "if you have time to be on Instagram, you have time to run this business. You're just not motivated enough to try and better yourself and your life." To which I replied "When someone says they don't have time, it doesn't literally mean they don't have the time. It means the time they do have free is too valuable to them and they don't want to spend it losing money to a pyramid scheme!" To which she said "Let's agree to disagree..." And I blocked her as she was still typing up a paragraph.
Good for you, well done
I think this is the best response that I've seen to the "if you have time to scroll then..." argument. I love it.
I love the concept of “my time is valuable.” Because our time IS valuable. I don’t owe it to you, random hun in my inbox. And don’t you dare tell me what to do with it, spend your own 24 hours.
It is so painful listening to these calls. The "leaders" are either constantly talking about themselves or repeating the same 1 or 2 points for a friggin hour.
Not to mention the tone of her voice is just so unbelievably hard to listen to, she is so shrill and agressive, I can not imagine finding this motivating! It is "literally" horrible!
I watch Hoarders so that I don’t feel so bad about my house, and I watch your content so that I don’t feel so bad about my job. 😄
omg! are you me???
I’ve been in a professional career for 10 years and at no point have I been lectured at for an hour while being called ‘you guys’ twice a minute. So infuriating to listen to!
What gets me is all these ladies in their twenties putting all there energy in Monat. They are going to leave the company and have to start over. With no college education and no job experience.
And they are told they deserve to make a ton of $. With no experience or training.
If I was working in a "business" where I had to make a fool of myself on social media full time and only made $500 a month for it, I'd be peeved 😅
If she says "literally" one more time I'll literally join an MLM
I thought it was just me. “Literally” is literally my least favourite word now
For me it's "At the end of the DAY, blah blah blah..." so many of them use that phrase
@@lalimoreno1 and at the end of the day, they keep working and never sleep.
"And let me TELL you guys!!!"
"Literally" and "guys" gawd, the over use makes my teeth itch!
"You get paid just for being yourself!" . . . "I never date or sleep, and I neglect my children."
The amount of times she said "we just want you guys to know" "I wanted to let you guys know" was driving me crazy. Maybe I was being hyper critical because I used to be a trainer but every time she said it I just wanted to scream "DROP THE FILLER PHRASES."
No this annoyed me so much. and the "you guys, I can't, ugh, i was, you know what you guys, i really literally went, guys, and you know what, you guys really need to --" (repeat for a solid 2 minutes before actually figuring out what the sentence is about)
@@reidleblanc3140 it just makes them sound like high schoolers. It’s painful. If I was being “trained” by someone talking like that I’d leave immediately
I get so annoyed when someone inserts "you guys" in their sperch too often!!
It's also generally a litmus test whether someone making content online is toxic 😂tge "you guys" ones are almost always the worst... and if they're not, it's still very annoying and I peqce out right away regardless
The one I hate is “hey guys, I just wanted to come in here and say…”
At some point I realised she kept saying 'and let me tell you something-' again and again and again and it was simultaneously absolutely ear-grating and hilarious
I never understand when they say "tired of the 9-5"....like okay so you want to do the 9-9???
Yeah wtf! I work 9 to 5 and I love it. They constantly say that they don’t even have time to sleep, date and etc as if that’s something to strive for
I’ve never heard about an MLM before and I’m not sure how these videos ended up on my homepage, but I can’t stop watching this content. These zoom videos are insane.
Its funny that you talk about group chats. I had my mlm chats to ding a certain sounds. Ive been out a year now and I heard someones phone that had the same notification. Immediate PTSD. My heart started racing like I was already behind on something that was very important.
Oh wow! That’s something I’ve never thought about before but makes perfect sense!
Nokia William Tell ring tone takes me straight back to 20years ago to on call night shifts at the hospital - the stab through the stomach is real!!
I don't like that one of the speakers asked, what are you sacrificing for the MLM? Why do you need to sacrifice for a job? Not even a job, because a job pays you. I exchange my time for a pay cheque, benefits, job security, pension, medical, training, etc. It feels fair to me.
Also, I am so beyond annoyed with the concept that effort equals success. There is zero correlation between how hard you work and the amount of income you make.
I think the most effective lies are twisted truths. There is truth that hard work is more often rewarded more than laziness. If you show up on time to your job, complete your tasks well, have a good attitude, are helpful to other people and essentially work hard then you are more likely to get things like promotions and good references for positions that do increase your income. Whereas if you are lazy on the job, show up late or call out all the time, cause drama and don't complete your tasks then you're not as likely to get promotions or even good references for positions that can increase your income. But these people in MLM's twist it to tell people that your success is ONLY related to how hard you work. Hard work is only one aspect of success, it does have an influence but it's the end all be all of what determines success like they're pitching it.
I’m so glad I’m too antisocial to have ever gotten recruited into an mlm.
Lmao I relate to this wayyyy too hard
More exceptional analysis. You’re quickly rising to the top of this niche
Thank you for your continued support!
Diamond level in less than a year!
Agree!!
@@loosilu 🤣🤣🤣🤣 presidential diamond elite pro unicorn toastie, I reckon!!
This shows just how professional they are! Silence your gosh dang phone when you are in a “work” meeting!!!! 🤬😡🤬
I love how that one Hun flexes not having a partner (that she says she wants btw vs just not being interested in romance) in favor of "pursuing her dream" because apparently you can't follow your dreams *and* have a fulfilled romantic and/or social life or live comfortably, no you have to literally be a slave to your dream to "deserve" it. That mindset borders on outright psychotic, imo.
100% agree on the group chats. My hubby has a really large family, and recently his elderly aunt had a fall. She's fine, but the whole family was added to a group chat to keep us all up to date. It was usually just one or two people posting updates, but cue all the rest of the family saying OK or giving thumbs up. My phone was constantly dinging at me for nearly a week. I was really happy that auntie was doing well, and I had married into such a supportive family, but by the end of it I was utterly exhausted.
I've started to just mute those forever and then check them once at the end of the day.
I love how these calls that are pushed as "training calls", are really just berating sessions. Where your upline just gets on a call to tell you how awesome they are, and how much you suck because you're not them.
In what other work environment would this be acceptable?? If this happened literally anywhere else, any one of these girls would leave the call and quit their job.
It's mind-boggling to hear this girl verbally crush these girls. She goes on about their potential as human beings, and then flips the switch and tells them that they're not reaching that potential because they're not passionate enough about shampoo.
No. These girls have far more potential than listening to someone tell them their worth is tied to this business.
Ugh. And what this girl thinks are things to be proud of - not dating or having a life - is actually really sad.
If these training calls were filled with things that they REALLY mean, they'd say things like "If you try hard enough, you could have no life, too!" Or "If you believe in yourself enough, you could give up everything that matters to you, too... and only work this business, and do nothing else!"
Ahhhhhhjnjhjkmhgdg....!!!
The accuracy…
@@HannahAlonzo - I edited to add more. The more I listen to this call, the more my hair bursts into flames.
This was so painful to watch. It was an hour of berating.
This is SOOOOOOO micromanaging to me..... I have a full time job and if my manager need my attention outside of my work hours I'd demand pay for that.
I have been binging for weeks now. Eyes are widening at the manipulation.
Wait! Her rent can’t get paid???? She just said she bought a house.
Good catch!!!
Yessssssss an hour long video as I prep dinner!
Look at me, serving my family at home while being paid on vacation. Yay for school schedules. Lol!
Whoop whoop!
😂 That time freedom!
Almost every MLM call I've heard is basically a "motivational" diatribe where the hun berates and bullies her downline. Crazy how her downline could tolerate listening to this type of call.
I’ve binged a lot of anti-mlm type videos (it’s a weird youtube category I’ve sort of fallen into lately) but this one was the first where it really hit me just how damn degrading these ’businesses’ can be. Amazing how people see a few thousand a year as enough to manipulate and bring down the mental health of others who are often very similar to them.
Thank you for making this video, and congrats on 20k subscribers!
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Offended at this Latina duping other Latinas into this bs MLM. I always heard Mlm's targeted vulnerable people. It is really infuriating!
THANK YOU for addressing the income tax implications of those damn trips!! I’m a tax accountant and it irks me to no end how these people and these companies refuse to explain how these activities will affect a person’s taxes at the end of the year!! I do corporate tax, but I did individual taxes while getting my master’s and so many people would be baffled by how taxes worked when they were self-employed.
First, Cooper is absolutely adorable🥰
Secondly, how the heck this poor downline is supposed to recruit 5000 people considering that the AntiMLM movement is growing AND that there’s others MLMs out there? How? They should sprint away from this. 😱
Happiness is getting the notification that Hannah posted a new video just as you sat down to relax☺️☺️
Me too! Got my coffee and a yoghurt, and Stardew on the switch to chill for a bit before I have to do the housework. Cheers, fellow relaxer!
Me too!!!! I just got home from work, I’m so happy 🥺
Bigggg facts ☺️😍
Yeeesss 😂
Count me in! These videos calm my anxiety and makes me think that, no matter how bad my life is, at least it is not as bad as this people in the MLM
God, I would hate to lose an hour of my morning EVERY DAY just to be talked to by someone who only sees me as a dollar sign. I hope these people come to their senses and hopefully find a job that treats them well
I really hope they don’t manipulate 5000 people. 🙄
Hopefully this video spreads awareness ❤️
Not knowing anything about monat, I have no idea, from this long call, what on earth they are selling
I take that back. I mean I don't know what product monat is pretending to sell
Wow. For some reason this was one of the crazier MLM group calls I've seen. When you really dig into the little things they're saying it makes my jaw drop. To see how manipulative and calculated they really are with every single thing they say.. Ugh so gross. But great job here Hannah!
New subscriber here 🙋🏻♀️ Thank you for doing this content. I enjoy listening to you. The mlm I left about a year ago was Color Street. So glad to be out & found the Anti-MLM community.
I wish MLM'S didn't exist. All the MLM'S that are claiming free vehicles & free trips....the only thing that's free is all your time & energy spent marketing, recruiting, etc. I'm so tired of the same rhetoric in every. single. mlm. They aren't even getting paid for all those zoom meetings, and not getting paid for posting on social media. You have to live & breathe your MLM. I could go on & on....but you know. LoL
So happy to hear that you’ve gotten out of Color Street Christy!! 🥰
@@HannahAlonzo thank you so very much Hannah. It feels greeat!
Bingo! This business, mindset, mentor, upline, my story, income claims, personal development…same old verbal diarrhea that flows out of all these “leaders”.
This call alone would have me dipping out like NOPE
As disgusting and selfish as it is for them to be so intent on recruiting 5,000 more people into their downline, they may as well be screaming to the world, "It's not about selling shampoo!" Because if it was about the shampoo, all they'd be doing is increasing their competition by 5,000 more "small business owners."
When she says 'i want to impact lives, I want to change lives', yeah you're not wrong lady, impacting and changing for the WORST for your own benefit. Surely someone on this call has the sense to see that the numbers are unrealistic and unobtainable, I sure hope so. Ugh, so gross
Yeah impacting lives… but not for the better 🥴
@@HannahAlonzo she also says she was also a single mum while working in a dealership and doing Monat, but lived in a room at her mother's house. So I'm guessing she had free child care... Just one of many points she leaves out of her story and why? Coz others aren't so lucky, but they're still gonna be made to feel guilty that they're not doing enough. It makes me sick.
@@tash4270 when she said “Those of you who have a spouse, be happy because you have a support network” I about fell out of my chair over how much she just took her mom for granted.
I can only imagine how people on the call who ACTUALLY have no support system felt when she said that, I immediately thought of my friends that moved to America from other continents… if their plans don’t work out there isn’t a moms house to move back into.
I don't make tons of money, but I work for Veterans Affairs, 630am to 3pm, I have paid days off, weekends off, paid federal holidays, AND retirement. I hope the ones that DO make loads of money are saving it for their health insurance and retirement. I'm home by 330pm, weekends off and I don't think about work when I'm home relaxing.
i love how she laughed condescendingly when she was like "100k!!" 😂😂😂 even she knows how ridiculous a goal that is for them
Speaking for all the other Libras, we don’t claim her.
LOL
Oh man. My little square would've blanked the INSTANT she started telling moms to "figure it the hell out". Hell no.
It’s funny how she says “I” when it come to the ranks and money and “we” when describing how she got the money/rank and how she will accomplish more ranks and money by way of recruiting and so called changing lives. SMH 🤮
Thank you for making this video. I was in an MLM for a little less than a year. It is frustrating when you don't make a cent, and when you try to "recruit" people and they don't show up to these meetings, you're being made to feel like a failure. All this rhetoric is very familiar, and I felt awful leaving, believing that if I stuck it out just a little longer, I'd probably see some financial gain. Glad I left.
It's always baffled me how much emphasis there is in hustle culture with making yourself utterly miserable, destroying your physical, psychological, and social well-being, all just to make more money. Like, if you're not destroying yourself, you're not working harm enough and there is nothing more admirable than self-destruction.
I can imagine the corporate higher ups in Monat are laughing at these huns for believing they're "business owners "
4-5x 500/month is 2000-2500. You CAN make that in a corporate setting and log off at 5pm and be with your family and not have to sleep on the couch and feed your child sandwiches. SMH.
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@@nikit0r 🤣🤣
Not to mention benefits like health insurance, paid vacation days, and retirement savings plans.
You mean to tell me that YOU’RE giving me homework in MY business?!? 😱😤😲
@25:54 She mentions she cant pay her rent, yet earlier she claimed she bought a house after a month in monat.
Good catch lol, she’s probably just renting a house.
As a stage 1 kidney cancer survivor, I would never give up my job and healthcare that saved our asses when I was diagnosed, had surgery for and are still using with followup care every year (been 4 years now it's not cheap). It's probably more for a Stage 4 cancer survivor.
Who the heck is going to wake up at 5am for a M0nat Zoom call? WTF? There is literally no way I could do that. NOPE!
Edit: I want a follow up in December. Do you think they'll make it.
I loved the sassy Hannah coming out today! Lol you're still so knowledgeable and well-spoken, but with a lil Spiciness today 🌶🌶🔥
Also this call is insane. She is literally admitting that this entire "business" is literally recruiting 🙃 There was NO talk about products during an entire hour long call.... like how could this not be a red flag for the people on this call?
ALSO. Team calls 6 DAYS A WEEK?! But yet they demonize 9-5 jobs that are usually 5 days a week.... Make it make sense?
I’ve envied my husbands job because when his shift is over, he can just walk away even mid project and the next crew takes over. As a social worker, you have a caseload and if you don’t get something done then it’s waiting there for you the next day. It has created a tremendous amount of anxiety in my life and added to some major health issues I have stepped away from my job to raise our son and volunteer in our community and at his school.
... so what happened to time freedom... work your ass off, don't date, focus on your dream first and foremost, work harder.
I love my job more and more every day if I'm not out by 5 I'm getting kicked out by my boss.
Honestly, these Zoom calls make me respect “traditional” jobs more and more every day
I find it crazy that someone in the top 1% of the company still needs to have a 9 to 5...
I’m just waiting for the second woman to claim she is the second coming of Jesus. That is the only way she can come off anymore narcissistic.
She cares about them more than they care about themselves?! Lol, no girl, you care about the money they will make you if they get more people on board and rank up.
I also think the "put a xyz in the chat" on a zoom call makes the "little people" feel more connected, important, and reinforces the parasocial relationship, which will make the person more likely to blindly follow them.
Ooooh yes, also a perspective I never thought of before!
@@HannahAlonzo for people in the top ranks, it seems like there's some stress on parasocial relationships, how they work, why they work, and how someone can use such a dynamic to their advantage.
*AN HOUR LONG VIDEO!!!!!* My day is _made!_
My thoughts exactly!
We love a good long video around here
They talk all the time about boring and unfulfilling corporate jobs, but at least my boring and unfulfilling corporate job only had me do two meetings a week
Hannah, your eye rolls 🙄are EVERYTHING! LOL I love how expressive your face is when you hear MLM bs. Your body has an involuntary reaction to it. Love it ❤️!
I simply can’t help myself 🤣
Haha her eye roll is all the commentary needed! 😂
I haven’t even watched the entire video and I already have to say something. If any of the members of this team come across this video, I’m here to tell you that you do NOT have to put up with this bullsh!t. If you have a nagging feeling in the back of your mind that this “Project 5000” thing isn’t about “impacting lives”, it’s about getting your top gal to SED, you’re right. You deserve better. You can walk away. Cancel your account. You can breathe. You’re allowed to breathe. And we’re here to support you while you decompress from the Monat experience.
I was thinking the same; I'd make a HORRIBLE downline because I'd be calling bullsh*t on some of these things being said during this call. Like raising my hand and saying, "EXCUSE me, what did you just say???"
I’ve been binging your content for the past 2 days straight. You’re such a well spoken person and so fun to listen to while being educational about this at the same time! I’ve heard you in a few videos that you could write these zoom calls yourself at this point, it makes me want to see you parody one yourself haha
Omg I literally JUST discovered her from a truecrime RUclipsr who recommended her anti-MLM content 2 nights ago and cannot stop binge watching!! Lol 😅
I never even knew this content existed nor that I would be so intrigued by it!
@@MaddyIntravia That’s funny because one of her videos was recommended to me while I was also watching a true crime RUclipsr lol! She is super bingeable! 😆
If I had a PV point for every time one of these girls said “this business”, I’d be all of their upline.
I just can't get through this. What a load of rubbish. She's taken 27 mins to basically say "I'm better than everyone on this call". Wow!
Did she just pressure people to join a 5 AM call!? What about time freedom?!
5:00 not me forgetting what you said about text tones IMMEDIATELY and checking my phone twenty times like “where’s the text my guy your pinging but no text” 🤦🤦🤦🙈
I literally don’t understand the “quitting a regular 9-5” to spend more time with their kids, but then being told to make the business work they need to limit all time with anything outside of the mlm 🧐🧐
I'd love to know how many people on that call quit within the week.
This is absolutely insane. I discovered your channel recently and have been catching up. Always knew MLMs are sketchy but never knew what goes on being the scenes. Unreal!
15:34 It made me think of Home Alone 2 when Kevin said "My family's in Florida and I'm in New York."
I can’t believe I was ever part of this company! 🤮 So thankful I got out!!!
The best comment!!! 🎉👏🏼 so happy for you!
Proud of you! These guys are manipulative. You cant be too hard on yourself. In fact it's amazing that you could see their true colors even after being in. It takes guts to admit you're wrong and not double down
10:59 I absolutely think that every time a rep says they are "impacting lives". They sure are, just not in a positive manner.
I wonder what these 'team leaders' have to do to hype themselves up to spiel such garbage. I always imagine they get off these calls and cry.
This was me I was like going maniac at my job because I felt like I wasn’t doing enough that I had forcefully do all these things like post pictures tictoks loves shares products I felt like I was behind until I literally broke down at work and I’m like wtf why am I feeling this way and why am I feeding into this thing that isn’t working for me
@@youraristrocatmom4108 I hope you're safe now. Take care.