YOUNG LIVING ZOOM CALL | Scary advice for using essential oils in pregnancy and postpartum
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Something I'm curious about: Adding together all of her product recommendations, how much would it cost to use them for a single pregnancy and postpartum?
I was wondering the same thing.
Thousands
@@karenbb5063 I did the maths.
I am going to say upfront that I am a man, and have never experienced the process of supporting somebody through a pregnancy, so I apologise if I get some specific definitions or facts wrong. Documenting this has been a learning experience for me, so feel free to correct me in a reply.
As a baseline, I am assuming a 270 day pregnancy, and a 30 day post-partum period. I will put the discounted rate first, then the retail price in brackets.
18:15 - NingXia Red as a prenatal suppliment. Not helping here is that YL's serving recommendation gives you a choice between 2 and 4 ounces a day. I am going to be kind and use the lower figure of 2 ounces a day. We need 13 bottles to get 275 servings, buy YL only sell these in bundles of two, so for 14 bottles we spend $498 ($655.26). At 18:30, she recommends also drinking NingXia Red during post-partum, so let's just say that the extra 30 servings are used there. The Mayo Clinic recommends that you also use prenatal suppliments while you're trying to concieve, as that will help the baby's development in the stage before you know you're pregnant, so you will likely be drinking more NingXia Red than what I've priced out here.
24:26 - Super B as a prenatal suppliment. 2 tablets a day, 30 servings per bottle, 9 bottles is $204.75 ($269.37).
26:33 - Sulfurzyme Powder as a prenatal suppliment. 4g a day, 227g in a bottle, 5 bottles needed for 283 servings. The cost: $266.25 ($350.35).
27:00 - Mineral Essence as a prenatal suppliment. 5ml dose morning and night for 10ml total. Bottle is 106ml. 26 bottles needed to get a 275 day supply at $864.50 ($1137.50).
27:50 - Cool Mint CBD Oil as a sleeping aid, 'every single night for the entirety of my pregnancy. '1 full dropper' per use; I'm going to assume that's 1ml. 30ml per bottle, 9 bottles are $776.25 ($1021.41).
28:10 - Roman Chamomile, Cedarwood and Dream Catcher Essential Oils for diffusion as a sleeping aid, 'not necessarily together'. Measuring a 'drop' is difficult, but I'm going to go with 80 drops for 5ml and 250 for 15ml. For a small diffuser, 4 drops seems like a reasonable average. Roman Chamomile is 5ml, Cedarwood and Dream Catcher are 15ml. I'll assume that you cycle these around, and use all three before buying another set. So the 35ml of oils represent 580 drops, or 145 days worth. For two bottles each to get 290 days of oil, Roman Chamomile is $92.50 ($121.72), Cedarwood is $26 ($34.22), and Dream Catcher is $167 ($219.74), for a total of $285.50 ($375.68).
29:44 - Valor Roll-On, 'for emotions during pregnancy'. It's tough to judge how long a roll-on will last, but she describes herself as using it 'constantly', and it's $56.00 ($73.68) for a 10ml bottle which seems absurdly tiny; my travel-size roll-on deodorant bottle is 50ml. I'll be extremely generous and just stick with this one bottle, but be aware that's probably unrepresentative.
30:06 - Joy, for post-partum depression. The topical dose is '2-4 drops', and it's a 15ml bottle. Assuming 250 drops as above, which will last the 30 days, that's $48.25 ($63.49).
30:45 - Peace & Calming Roll-On 'during pregnancy'. She seems to hold up the essential oil bottle here, but describes it as something she applies as a roll-on, so I'll go with that. $49.25 ($64.80) for a 10ml bottle.
32:24 - ClaraDerm Cooling Mist, as a skin moisturiser and to prevent tears. She also claims that it can heal tears in about 2 weeks. $74.50 ($98.03) for a 59ml bottle, there's no information on dosage, just an 'apply topically' instruction.
35:20 - CBD Muscle Rub for pain management during labour. 50g bottles with two options for CBD dosage: $81.00 ($106.58) for 300mg, $118.75 ($156.25) for 600mg. I'll go with the lower price for the final calcuation.
35:35 - PanAway Essential Oil for anti-inflammation during labour. $40.75 ($53.62) for a 5ml bottle.
35:57 - Peppermint Essential Oil, huffed to ease nausea during labour. $24.75 ($32.57) for a 15ml bottle.
36:19 - 'Emotional support oils' to diffuse during labour. Lavender is $27.25 ($35.86) for 15ml, Frankincense is $84.75 ($111.51) for 15ml, White Angelica is $32.50 ($42.76) for 5ml.
37:39 - YL Vitality Drops for hydration during labour, added to NingXia (which could add an extra bottle of that to the shopping list). She seems to hold up Lavender Lemon, which is $30.25 ($39.80) for three 48ml bottles.
38:13 - Progessence Plus to help with post-partum depression. $43.25 ($56.91) for a 15ml bottle. 'I actually personally use it throughout my whole pregnancy', which could mean more bottles are required.
38:39 - EndoFlex Essential Oil, for thyroid balance. $31.75 ($41.78) for a 15ml bottle.
40:33 - Sulfurzyme Powder again mixed with NingZia Red for hair loss. That's another $53.25 ($70.07) bottle of the stuff to get the 17 extra servings you need on top of the last purchase.
40:45 - Geranium Essential Oil as a post-labuor supplement for the ClaraDerm Cooling Mist mentioned before. $47.75 ($62.83) for a 15ml bottle.
41:35 - 'Some people use ComforTone' for constapation relief. $39.25 ($51.64) for 150 capsules.
41:56 - Thieves Laundry Soap as a baby detergent. $33.25 ($43.75) for a 947ml bottle.
42:19 - Thieves AromaBright Toothpaste for post-partum hygiene. $12.00 ($15.79) for a 114g bottle.
The second lady adds these recommendations:
57:52 - MultiGreens Capsules as both a pre-pregnancy and a pregnancy supplement. 6 capsules a day, 120 capsules a bottle. 14 bottles needed for 280 days, that's $647.50 ($852.04)
1:01:15 - Progessence Plus Serum as a progesterone booster. $43.25 ($56.91) for a 15ml bottle.
The grand total, keeping in mind that I am lowballing how much some products will be used, and am unsure about the dosage of others, is...
$4,395.75 with the discount, or $5,783.99 at Young Living's retail price.
@@skywardlp4916
Thanks for that math class. Holy moly, all I took was commercial prenatal vitamins. Also, I had all three of my kids via c-section because they were all huge (2 over 10 lbs, 1 over 9 lbs).
@@skywardlp4916 WOW.. unbelievable. Thank you for doing this.
The not-so-subtle irony of taking pregnancy advice from reps whose founder drowned his baby in childbirth.
Ope💀
Yup! The irony is eerie.
What? This sounds so tragic
@@MommaB74 Hannah did a deep dive on the company. You should def watch it, it's wild. And sad.
@@MommaB74 it was ruled an “accident” but the coroner’s report indicates that is was negligence. Gary young tried to deliver his child in a home water birth in a hot tub and the baby drowned.
D. Gary Young didn’t have the best track record delivering children.
Comment of the day right here!
Understatement of the century
I just looked this up! I totally forgot about that! Yeah, I'm not listening to anyone associated with Young Living about pregnancy and/or childbirth!
also, I need to add something here... was trying to conceive for over 4 years before I had a successful pregnancy that stuck. I did everything under the sun to prepare my body and mind for pregnancy. I followed all of my doctor's advice, I joined groups, I worked out, ate right, did all the things that I could have done to have a healthy pregnancy, and I still lost. It turned out that I had an internal issue that required surgery. I was lucky to get pregnant after recovering from this surgery. I was a walking medical question all that time. I blamed myself for not being able to hold a pregnancy. telling women that they are in the perfect time to "prime" themselves for pregnancy is just so harmful I can't even find the words. if any of you watching are reading this comment and have struggled to get pregnant or stay pregnant,.it's NOT your fault.
I'm so sorry for your struggle and loss. Congrats that you have your rainbow baby!
❤❤❤ Can you expand on the condition you had so I can Google it? Pertinent to my field and would love to know more about it.
@@studentmidwifelife6436 We can discuss it privately if you'd like. My insta is Vault713__
@@studentmidwifelife6436 I know this might not be it but I'm putting this info out in case it might help any woman have a full term pregnancy after miscarriage. But one condition that requires surgery to fix is known as cervical insufficiency or "incompetent cervix" which is the term medical practitioners might be doing away with. It is when the cervix is weak and because of that, once the baby gets to a certain point of growth it gives way/opens too soon, cause premature birth or more commonly, miscarriage. It is fixed essentially by stitching the cervix closed so the baby is able to grow to full term and then the stitch is removed before the mother gives birth. Again I know this might not be what the OP is talking about (congrats on your rainbow baby by the way. I'm so happy for you!)
However I know someone who suffered from 2nd trimester miscarriages and when she switched doctors she finally got a diagnosis and was able to have a successful pregnancy with the stitch in place. So I just wanted to share the info just in case someone who needs it stumbles across my answer in the comments.
This reminds me of what it was like before I got diagnosed with an autoimmune disease. So many people told me to try different diets, water filtration systems, supplements, etc. A lot of people still will ask me if I’ve tried those things. And yes, I tried absolutely everything. But what actually cured all my symptoms was medication. It was never my fault, and believing I had any responsibility for my sickness actually delayed treatment.
For those who read this possibly Hannah. The moment you get pregnant you'll find yourself being being given unsolicited advice and/or mom shamed. You're going to good things and you're going to make mistakes. You just do your best everyday.
It's always the people with the worst advice and meaningless platitudes that love to share it unsolicited.
I know it's not pregnancy related but as soon as I got covid a couple days ago, someone on my Facebook profile said "take black cummin seed oil". uhm that's going to be a hard no my friend. lol
This, and it continues after baby is born and thereafter on how to raise a child. Best to just tell them to f@ck off and mind their own business 😊
@@belafalda7594 Or the person that tells you Diet Coke is just as bad as regular Coke, as if you thought it was healthy or something. They're all the same species. 😂
She is not wrong. Most of it is well intended but irritating nonetheless.
Im a woman but I've never been pregnant HOWEVER if I take what Ive heard from women all around my life about pregnancy and apply the smallest bit of critical thinking, I easily come to the conclusion: most first pregnancies are hard BECAUSE ITS THE FIRST TIME YOUR BODY HAS TAKEN ON THE TASK OF CREATING A WHOLE ASS LIFE
I had the opposite experience. My first pregnancy was easy, and the second was awful. In contrast, the first delivery was super difficult, and the second shot out like a rocket. So maybe if it's a hard pregnancy you can hope for an easy delivery! Or maybe there's no rules and it's a 9 month rollercoaster of hoping for the best! Either way, making people is the most difficult thing for your body to undertake, and raising them is the most difficult thing your brain will undertake 😆
I had the same experience, my first pregnancy was easy but hard labor. Had to be induced. The second was a hard pregnancy. I couldn’t stay awake/had a hard time staying awake but the labor was easy, painful but easy
@@eaweareeacosa1878 same boat. I’m 6 months pregnant with my second and it’s been an awful pregnancy. Way harder than my first. I’m praying for a nice easy labor!
I have done it 4 times and the first is not inherently harder at all.
@@jennifergeorge7280 "most first pregnancies are hard" -All-
Ooof... the whole "if you're waiting to get pregnant, take the time to get your body ready..." thing triggers me so much. I had 5 miscarriages before I had my first successful pregnancy. I got roped into a couple of different wellness "programs" to get "healthy enough to have a baby". Before my 5th miscarriage, I did young living with my MIL who not only was a consultant for them, but owned a health food store and was determined to help me get, and keep, a pregnancy. It didn't work. After that 5th one, I was so very heartbroken that I just gave up entirely. I stopped the diets and the supplements and just everything. I just couldn't take the losses anymore. So many of those "if you just did xyz, you'll have the baby you want!" Yeah... no.
1 year later and I didn't even realize I was pregnant again until I was in my second trimester. I took the prenatal vitamins, but nothing else. I refused any and all "help" and had to deal with the "but if you don't then something bad might happen...." again nope. At 42 weeks I gave birth to a very healthy 6lb 13in baby who turns 13 in just a few days. The best thing I did for me, for my baby, and for my mental health was listened to my doctors and my body and ignored everyone else.
That’s lovely to hear you had your baby! A whole damn teenager now?! So cool. And you didn’t know till 2nd trimester, maybe that helped! The stress is REAL around fertility and pregnancy in general, so glad it all worked out for you. My only baby turns 2 in like 3 weeks, it’s WILD😂
"Information given by women in an mlm should be taken with a grain of salt"
*Girl we better take it with a whole shaker of the stuff*
I laughed so guard when she said ‘pre natal vitamins are all synthetic so your body just pees them out’
Ma’am that’s not how the body works. It doesn’t take in a product and say to itself ‘oh wait that’s not natural, get rid of that’
I'm gonna drink a bottle of methylated spirits but it's alright cause it's a toxin and my body doesn't need it so it won't do anything lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣
All this talk about natural. Formaldehyde is natural. So is asbestos, lead, cyanide and mercury. But would we apply those to the skin or eat them? No. The dose is what makes the poison, even water is toxic with enough ingested.
You’re welcome for the first year toxicology refresh.
@@brandib2821sunlight is as natural as it gets, and it causes skin cancer...
Saying prenatal vitamins, folic acid, and iron aren’t important during pregnancy is downright dangerous. You slayed this one!
Folic acid is essential. These huns don't know what they are talking about.
I had to stop watching about 17 minutes in (sorry, Hannah 😭), so I didn't even get to this part.
There should be a special reporting tool when they say egregious stuff like this that could literally harm a life.
Take your damn prenatals, folks.
@@catstickler It got worse. The started trying to prey on people, who can't conceive or have had miscarriages and tried to sow doubt against doctors.
The former can kill mental health, the later can literally kill mom and baby. Disgusting.
Actually FOLATE is what is important, NOT folic acid. Folic acid is detriment to approx 40% of the population that has MTHFR variations. Seems like YOU are the Huns that don’t know anything. Smh
Actually folic acid is not important. What is important is FOLATE. Folic acid is the synthetic form of folate and is detrimental to approx 40% of the population with MTHFR variants.
As a nurse and a clinical researcher I am personally shocked and appalled (ok, not at all actually shocked, but suuuuuper appalled) at what these people present as ‘evidence’. Association is not causation. Anecdote is the lowest form of evidence. And selling anything to pregnant women by instilling fear is the most disgusting thing I’ve ever seen.
Keep fighting the good fight, Hannah. What you’re doing is important.
I keep thinking of women in the 19th century and back in time, most of whom had a lot of babies. Would we take medical advice from them just because they popped out 11 human nuggets?
@@maryeckel9682 "Didn't you almost die fifteen times in childbirth?"
"Yes. But I got eleven healthy babies out of it. And seven even made it to the ripe old age of twelve! Take that with your two pregnancies and two adult children! What do you know?"
Sorry for the stupid joke. The sad thing is that most women of the past would give an arm and a leg to have our healthcare, our miniscule chance of literally dying, our painkillers even! It is so sad that we let idiot charlatans talk vulnerable women into throwing that into the garbage and believe in magic instead.
“Selling something by instilling fear” is exactly what mainstream OBGYNs do on a daily basis. In fact mainstream OB is fear based.
Smh.
@@maryeckel9682 we maybe should.
Even fear of toxoplasmosis from your cat is overblown. The CDC says you're much more likely to get T from undercooked meat or from gardening, and if your cat is indoor-only, the risk is even lower. Sure, get your partner to clean the cat box because they LIVE THERE and it's their cat, too.
Fear of overheating is also overblown. There are tons of studies out of places in the tropics, pregnant athletes, and places where sauna like bathing is common that show there is no difference in CNS birth defects between women who get hot during any stage of pregnancy and women who don't. There are even studies that show pregnant woman thermally regulate better than non pregnant women (even if they feel hot). The only risk appears to be dehydration and possibly fainting if the woman lets herself get too hot without adequate hydration. It still isn't smart to do anything heat wise that isn't smart when you aren't pregnant. Getting heat stroke is bad, dehydration is bad, and fainting is bad (with falls being more dangerous during pregnancy). So I think a common sense recommendation would be to apply common sense. Don't be terrified of hot weather, hot baths, aerobic exercise, etc. as long as you hydrate more while doing so and as long as you pay attention to how you feel and stay away from things you react badly to.
Exercise advice during pregnancy can also be insane and even harmful. Studies show pregnancy is healthier when the woman exercises and yet OBs will occasionally treat their patients like glass instead of applying any common sense. Fortunately that one is becoming less common because avoiding hot saunas is not the end of the world but being terrified of exercise might actually be harmful.
Plus, I believe it's only an issue if your FIRST exposure is during pregnancy. And if you've had cats for a while, you've probably already been exposed.
I know someone who’s child died from this infection from changing cat littler. Please share you sources and regardless, once source saying you can get it from gardening won’t change the recommendation not to change cat litter .
My OB's said ANY pregnancy, do not do it. My mind is at ease now knowing Hannah has seen this comment.
I have two children but had a pregnancy loss between each child. Not even 24 hours after I found out and let people know I had someone in my DMs letting me know her oils would “help” me.
So yeah. Oil MLMs are my most hated MLMs.
Congrats on your pregnancy, Hannah! Baby girls are an absolute joy. ❤
Oil MLM's are totally the worst.
I wanna slap the living hell out of them on your behalf 🧐
How cruel and tone deaf can people be? 😔
I'm so sorry for your loss :((( you do have an awesome username
I also hate oil MLMs. I have health issues and they love to claim they can cure me and that I should go off my poisonous medication. As a disabled person and someone who works in medical science, this shit kills people. Worst case, it is a slow and painful death. Also worst case, there is a kid involved.
Omg Hannah’s face when that lady was talking about “joy” oil curing postpartum depression SLAYED me! Her eyes rolled so far back in her head I was afraid they wouldn’t come back 😂 I felt exactly the same!
My niece had her adenoids removed over the summer, so I guess she should never feel sadness 🙄
Background cat yodeling is why I am here
It’s adding the ambiance of crying baby that is required for the subject
“this is great for just connective tissues… so I mean anything to help support the connective tissues between you and baby…” 🤦🏻♀️ I just can’t.
😂 Bahaha! I came here for this comment! I knew I couldn't be the only one to notice that she said that! I thought, "Ma'am, you do realize connective tissue is referring to your baby's tendons and ligaments, right? Not a connective tissue between you and baby. Baby isn't connected to you by anything other than placenta and umbilical cord. Is that what you think is connective tissue?" 😂
This is so hard to listen to for me. After giving birth both my son and I had the WORST reactions to basically all young living products (which are my mother-in-law’s passion and purpose in life). I only realized what caused those reactions after speaking with a trained aroma therapist (who by the way emphasized your should never use essential oils on pregnant women and babies).
I can still see the scars on my sons skin from the outbreaks. So them recommending oils left, right and center when it comes to pregnancy and babies is just terrible to me 😢
Wow that’s horrific! Can I ask what she was recommending? Topical sprays or diffused oils or? Totally understand if you don’t want to talk about it further. Your poor bub 😢
She gave us a “starter kit” for newborns. And after a short time he even broke out when he rubbed his face in my mother-in-laws oily clothes…
@@LovedLisa Did she learn anything from this? Apologise? Or come up with excuses? Crazy. I did not realize the products could be that obviously dangerous! So sorry for you
She asked around in what I assume is her up line and sidelines and came up with the “you and the baby must be detoxing because it is impossible to have an allergic reaction to pure essential oils”-excuse.
She did however realize that whenever we had seen them the baby would have horrible breakouts and has started to be more careful around us. She basically has a sperate set of clothes to wear when she comes over that is oil free and always takes a shower before changing into those.
But the whole oil situation is an ongoing discussion…
@@LovedLisa wow. The detoxing quip is used by all mlms to cover up the horrible effects of their products. Hair falling out? Detoxing through monat shampoo. Gaining weight? Itworks shake detoxing… crazy. Glad MIL recognized she needed to change her actions either way :)
9 kids?! That’s gonna be a lucrative downline one day.
I should send this to MamaDrJones and see if she would make a video from an OBGYNs perspective. This is insane. As a mother of 4 I cannot imagine not telling a pregnant person to ask their doctor over all of these suggestions.
This was my first thought too!
do it!
Yes! I was thinking the same
Yes!!!
Would love to see her cover this!
My son is 8 weeks old and one of the most frustrating things about pregnancy and being a new mom in America is how much companies and society try and sell fear. Rather than looking at actual data, and actual statistics and probability they tell you this unlikely thing is sure to happen to your baby unless you buy their special product. It’s infuriating.
Haha did you get the jab?
Right. They make us fear and doubt statistics and data.
Imagine applying for a pre/postnatal specialist job and under “Experience” you put “I’ve had babies so I have extensive experience in this field.”
My takeaways from this video:
1. Top video for Hannah’s best facial reactions to huns spewing nonsense.
2. Hannah you’re giving Cinderella vibes. ❤
I wouldn't take medical advice from someone who repeatedly says "your down there" and not "vagina" to a room of moms and pregnant ladies.
"Grief is stored in your adenoid glands...."
My tonsils and adenoids were removed when I was 4 years old so does that mean I won't/don't/can't experience grief? Absolutely not! That is ridiculous! Grief is a normal human emotion that most of us humans will experience at some point in our lives.
The dangerous medical misinformation that the oily huns spread really infuriates me.
14 pregnancies? 😵💫 And her birth stories 😵💫
I cannot imagine using these oils when pregnant and/or on infants or even older children
Im finding it all a little hard to believe
And usually I’m pretty gullible
@@MommaB74 “and usually im pretty gullible” 😭😂 I feel this so hard
9 pregnancies over 18 years... and she wonders why her body miscarried? Her uterus was probably crying out for a holiday!
As a nurse and first time mom this is absolutely horrifying. Please do not put concentrated oils on or around your vulva and newborn baby 😵😵
Oh my word! Haven't gotten that far! Seriously?? I occasionally use peppermint essential oil on the back of my neck when I have a headache. It stings like crazy if even the vapors get too close to my eyes! No way would I put it in a sensitive area or on a baby! Good grief!
Ironic that they turn to these products because they wanted to pay more attention to what they’re putting in their bodies and are unsure of what these products have in them. 😂
WOW as a grief counselor... the bit about grief really pissed me off. people don't just release grief, grief is an emotion that you never just get over it's something that you learn to live with, accept and work around. like how dare her lol
Eating, sniffing, applying, whatever else-ing all these weird products when your body is at its most sensitive and unpredictable sounds like a *fantastic* way to discover several new, exciting allergies.
"Grief is stored in the adenoid glands." 😂😂😂 Did I hear that right? I suppose they give me grief when I have a bad cold...
Greif I'd stored in the chest plate at the top. Saw sweedish anorexia clinic do chiro work and the kids would start crying talking about their traumas
Dawwww, kitty being troublesome. Cute as always, Hannah, and thanks for not editing them out; it's endearing and incredibly cute, really helps keep me more organically engaged with the video. :3
Any company that tries to tell pregnant women to use things could be dangerous should be highly fined or closed down
"This isn't to instill fear but.... " - EXTREME FEAR MONGERING -
This may be an unpopular opinion, but I don't believe she has any idea what true post-partum depression is. As someone who suffered from post-partum depression, I know a regime of oils would NOT have been something that would have helped me during that time. I needed my doctor's help to get out of the dark places my mind was going to. Hearing her talk about post-partum depression so flippantly is an insult to anyone who has went through it.
Edit to add: Thank you Hannah for wrapping up the last 40 minutes and not subjecting us to more of this ridiculousness. It took everything I had not to throw my phone watching what part we did watch.
Thank you for bringing light to this though. I knew MLM huns could be predatory but I've never had a topic hit so close to home and genuinely hurt so bad to hear them make so light of such tough issues.
Infertility is one of the hardest things I have gone through in my life. People who try to hawk their wares in promises that you will be able to get pregnant infuriate me. I’m livid.
Do not listen to elders about pregnancy and child rearing. Most everything that was advised back in the day has not only been proven wrong but proven dangerous.
Gosh!!! 🤔 How did anyone survive being born or giving birth before young living. Congratulations on your baby girl Hanna 👶
I am a registered nurse and currently 30 weeks pregnant. This is so shocking and disappointing to hear.. thank you for reviewing this and combating this nonsense with science and truth!
Fun fact about Panaway: it used to be called Pain Away, but Young Living had to change the name because it was an unfounded health/medical claim. Reps are not shy about letting you know how great of a pain reliever it is, though.
I smiled so hard when you mentioned you’re having a little girl!!! Congrats Hannah!!! 💖💖
What's concerning is that we have 0 proof that she did and changed all those things and yet so many people will take her word, i dont have nor want kids BUT PLEASE DON'T TAKE A GAMBLING CHANCE no doctor goes for years and years of school and preparation with the intention of hurting your baby and they also dont get a comission if you get your vitamins for free at the hospital!
I'm trying to get pregnant and if I was unknowingly watching her call I'd be all over it honestly. wanting a baby makes you do crazy stuff
This kind of call makes me so mad! As a person who can't have children, my only pregnancy was ectopic when I was 25, and now in early pre-menopause, It makes me so sick they are preying on people who are desperate for a child. I remember what that was like. I have made peace with it several years ago and will be adopting eventually because there are a ton of kids that need a great home! But it still makes me so mad knowing where some of these women are and if I had been introduced to these products in my early 30's I would have drank their Kool-Aid! Thank you so much for doing a call like this. So happy you are doing well Hannah!
i know a YL rep who went to the ER with burns in her VJ because she put oils in there for an infection 😬😬😬
Ouchie! 😬
This whole zoom call needs 'CITATION NEEDED' written on it in red sharpie.
As predicted, my blood pressure is definitely up 🌋
I had two boys, and they told me my third was also a boy. At almost 8 months pregnant, and on bed rest, I learned she was a girl…FINALLY!! I had nothing for a girl and online shopping wasn’t really a thing back then. Being on bed rest was torture because I couldn’t go shopping for girl stuff! We’ve more than made up for it over the last 21 years, however 🤣
Throughout most of human history you didn’t know the sex of your child until it was born. Funnily enough they seemed to manage without online shopping.
@@jeremypnet they didn't have baby boy and girl clothes for most of human history. You just put them all in a little white dress to make it easy to change them. Then people decided to advertise gendered baby clothes to cut down on handme downs so people would have to buy more.
Why would you need girl stuff...its a BABY
I did the same to my mom 😈 she found out sooner than you that I was a girl, but she had already bought some boy stuff and thought of a boy’s name. We still joke around sometimes that I took her baby boy and took his place, but she says she actually enjoyed changing some of the stuff to make them “girlier”.
My mom went through that! She was told I was a boy, so she had a name all picked out and everything. I came out at birth a girl! She had to last minute think of a name
Your advice about Google when it comes to pregnancy applies to healthcare advices in general. The last couple of years showed us how easy you can find all kind of information and misinformation.
I had a pet unexpectedly pass away and I was obviously devastated. A few months later another pet had a small issue come up and by the time I got to the vet, I had worked myself up into a panic because google said it could be cancer. The vet did a great job of calming me down, and it was a good reminder to just wait until I get real medical advice.
Time to watch Dopesick and learn about the system
I've been so excited for this video, Young Living is quite possibly my favorite dumpster fire.
It''s the "nice try, false, debunked" comment for me 🙌. You're awesome Hannah 😂
I’m in the medical field and have worked as an EMT. I am also 32 weeks pregnant. It’s very simple 1. Go to your check ups 2. Stay hydrated 3. Listen to your body, tired? Sleep hungry? Eat 4. Eat nutritious food 5. Take your vitamins and avoid smoking and drinking. Other than that just be kind to yourself and get rest. Women have being doing this for 1000s of years, we know what we are doing. These people want to sell, recruit and brainwash. Protect yourself ladies!
Wow they stuffed so much harm into a 1 hour zoom call. Thanks for what you do Hannah!
I wish people would sue these predatory people. They just spout all sorts of BS and provide medical advice without a degree.
Oh my gosh, thank you for covering this!!!! As a traditional birth attendant (and i have taken MANY accredited courses for aromatherapy) almost everything these women say is so so harmful!!!! The ignorance.
I don't have any formal training, but I still know that oil and water don't mix lol... it makes me SO angry whenever I see/hear someone talk about diluting essential oils in water and then either drinking it or spraying it on yours or your children's bodies! IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT! How are they not constantly covered in burns?
"Iron is folic acid." My head hurts.
No they aren’t 😊
It shames me to admit but a girl I used to go to church with got me in to YL for a bit. I actually ordered this PROGESSENCE PLUS SERUM and did not use it because there was a cancer warning on it! I was pregnant with my now 2 year old. I was shocked at the promotion of this to be safe while pregnant but has a cancer warning. 😠 I’ve had my fair run with more mlms than I care to admit.
Thank you Hannah for continuing the good fight. ❤
I'm really surprised they promoting CBD for sleep in pregnancy. There's no research on CBD for pregnant women, which is why they STRONGLY say to avoid cannabis products.
As a former specialty pharmaceutical rep, this kind of stuff is so concerning. If these kinds of claims were being made about regulated medications, it would be called “off label” and is illegal. Reps and doctors are reported to the FDA for it. Reps can get fired and doctors suspended. It’s serious. But because these women act like experts about medical issues, it just slides by. It’s awful.
Hannah I wanted to reach out and hug you when the girl was talking about postpartum depression. As someone who also struggles with anxiety, it bothers me too when someone pushes their mlm product to help with mental health struggles, let alone a vulnerable new mama in her postpartum depression journey
Congratulations on your baby girl, Hannah!
Also, I love how she's like "I don't want to fearmonger, but you should really be careful, because you don't know what is in things!". Totally trying to fearmonger.
Combining one of my favorite topics (Anti-MLM) with my sleep paralysis nightmare (pregnancy and childbirth). This is gonna be good!
Trying to watch this while I grade during my prep but getting distracted by constantly thinking "wtf?!". I've never had kids but ffs, can people not give out medical advice when the results could be catastrophic? Also side note:I hate the term "natural birth" for unmedicated birth. All birth is natural.
Being nitpicky, I'd argue that a c section isn't "natural", but besides that, yes. Vaginal birth is natural birth. Unmedicated is unmedicated.
when this woman said grief is stored in the adenoids😂 I got mine removed last week so damn no more grief for me
I was thinking the same thing!!! I had mine removed as a kid, so why do I still get sad??? 😂
The rep expecting her 9th- what on earth does her husband do for work to provide for a household of (almost)11 people plus the hundreds/thousands she spends on YL every month. Sweet baby cheeses, I cannot even imagine.
The way she said she's been pregnant or nursing for the last (or for the majority) 18 years as though it was a good thing 🙄
So sad to think of all these children she is raising and indoctrinating
~let me speak this into you~ please don't ma'am that sounds uncomfortable
I freaking love your facial expression in this thumbnail. Cracks me up! It's like, "No patience left, all out of patience." 😆
SO GLAD I turned on notifications. Was just thinking I needed something juicy to watch when my phone notified me! Looking forward to dying inside at this zoom call misinformation and your lovely comments snd quips.
I had a THIRD degree tear with my first and by FAR smallest baby. It took about a year to fully heal. My second, third, and fourth just gave me superficial skin tears. My first was 6 lbs 14 oz. The other three ranged from 8 lbs 6 oz to 9 lbs 3 oz. I have my own suspicions about what didn’t agree with me in the first labor, but that’s me learning how MY body handles certain interventions. I don’t think it’s the same for everyone. And no, I did not use oils to prevent tearing in any of them. 🤣
I'm only a couple of minutes in, but I'm predicting that she homeschools her 9 kids. I'm also going to guess it's so she can control the information they receive
I am anemic and taking iron was a HUGE issue. After talking with my doctor, there is an over-the-counter supplement out there called Vitron C which is iron and Vitamin C together. I don't understand the science behind it but for whatever reason, the vitamin C helps with the absorption and eases the "not so great" effects from the iron.
What you were talking about around the 23 minute mark about each woman and each woman's pregnancy being different - yes, yes, yes. I highly doubt the Ningxia Red is what magically made her more energized on the second one. Like you, my first pregnancy (a little girl) started with physical fatigue so bad I was taking 15-minute naps under my cubicle desk during lunch breaks. I never had nausea. Then, with my second pregnancy (also a little girl), there was no fatigue, but I did have a constant uneasy, nauseous feeling for the first 16 weeks. I was not doing anything vastly different in my routine and gender was the same - so it's not likely there was any specific cause for them being different. It just happens that way.
A “5 minute solid contraction” would have been an immediate emergency C-section but go off courtney 🤪
A BABY GIRL? OMG! Congratulations Hannah. It’s so lovely watching you go through your pregnancy. I genuinely feel like an old friend is updating me on her life 😭 so happy for you!
Maybe it’s because I know that you’re happily pregnant, but you are looking especially lovely these days, Hannah. Even if you still don’t feel 100% your joy and kindness are just as obvious as ever. Congrats on the baby girl!!
I hate the fear mongering the most about companies that promote supposedly ‘clean’ products, I think the most out of all claims MLM’s make too. Most of it is using buzzwords to sell and is never substantiated, and it’s classist to boot.
Young Living in particular would make a great bingo card. I was waiting for the word "toxins" to appear.
What really helped for me in pregnancy was: counting down the days until it was over 🤱🏻 😊
How I only have one month left and it feels like it’s been forever
When i was pregnant, prenatals made me so nauseous & my body rejected the iron pills, i had to get iron infusions & took flintstones vitamins lol. But i will never take a mlm. Congrats Hannah ❤.
I'm laughing at the "Within two weeks, it was healed." regarding her minor tear. Well, hark hark! That just happens to be about the time it would have healed otherwise. *Face palm*
This call made my blood boil and I'm done having kids! The ONLY thing I can agree with is that pitocin is really the devil. It is necessary (was with my first delivery) at times but HOLY COW I thought I was dying.
Congrats on your baby girl!! And yes, Dermaplast is heavenly. A cool blast of heaven for a really tired and slightly broken mimsy.
Yes I wrote a comment saying pitocin was the only thing I agreed on haha. Pitocin was horrible I just had to repeat my mantra of "this pain is temporary and won't kill me" haha because holy moly it was intense.
Yep! Induced with Pit and had an epi for my first birth. Second vbac (third baby) I only had a tiny bit of Pitocin and it was completely different.
Not even getting in to what she's saying, just the whole idea that this gal feels totally fine about getting on a zoom call and giving advice to other women about pregnancies, when she has nowhere near anything close to a medical license, is absolutely horrifying.
I've had 3 babies, and I would NEVER tell ANY other woman what they should and shouldn't do. I wouldn't want to be responsible for, heaven forbid, negative effects or outcomes.
How is this not a massive liability, not only for Young Living - but for HER personally?? Couldn't Young Living sue her if something goes wrong based on her being a representative of their company, and implying that this advice is coming from and supported by the company??
Big. Yikes.
Wow, if only I knew my depression could be cured by Joy attacking my adenoid glands! All this time w therapy and meds was a waste I guess 🙄
This is absolutely crazy!!! Congrats on your pregnancy, Hannah!!! I also just found out I am expecting baby number 4!!! I'm so thrilled!!!! Thanks for protecting us all from these mlm nightmares!!!!!!
Ummm... by the time we got to the iron philosophy crap, my brain was deflated trying to understand how she even believes the words coming out of her mouth. Lol mind blowing
Anyone who is pregnant id recommend being tested for toxoplasmosis. If you've have cats that go outside chances are you've already been exposed to toxoplasmosis and are fine to clean cat box. If you test negative you can have your cats tested and if they test negative then as long as your cats stay inside you should be fine to clean the cat box
Just make sure to wash your face and arms because dust. And just don't touch your face before washing up.
If there’s a new edition, I found “What to Expect When You’re Expecting” to be very helpful during my pregnancies.
I didnt care for it, but being of a mind to have “natural” labor/deliveries i found babycatcher to be really cathartic. Author is very laid back and funny because everyone is different and whatever happens will happen!
@@Zoot_of_Anthrax who is the author for babycatcher?
@@botanicalag8361 peggy vincent - it's an older book as I was reading it 15+ years ago.
I was given the book in 1998 and every "milestone" of my pregnancy was a chapter-to-chapter match. I've found these books at the thrift stores. And there are subsequent books for further pregnancies.
Kind of random thing to throw in here, but in relation to what one of the ladies in the zoom said about unmedicated birth- my Pitocin contractions were not any more painful than my unmedicated birth contractions. In fact, my unmedicated birth was my most painful birth, I’ll never forget it, lol. Every birth is just different.
I did perineal massage religiously when I was pregnant with my daughter because I was so terrified of tearing. guess what? I still had a third degree tear. this whole call is just so incredibly dangerous for women that are pregnant or want to become pregnant. the fact that any of these women are saying that you can have an easy pregnancy if you want to is just ridiculous. Having a birth plan in my opinion is dumb. It's perfectly fine to have birth goals, but having a plan is laughable LOL. and Yesssssss dermaplast spray extra strength as well as some tucks pads go a long way. my hospital even gave me all of that stuff to take home with me!
100%
Kegels during pregnancy helped me a ton! And my son had a fat head lol
Oh gods reading this comment hurts and confirmes my decision never to have biological kids
@@bobbii I tried doing those throughout as well, I think it was just inevitable for me LOL
@@ida6950 🤣
As someone who had severe ppd to the point were I went to look for my husbands g*n and I truly don’t remember the first 6 months of my sons life, I’m so upset at this young living hun. No words.
Not necessarily MLM related but I'm currently 34 weeks. In early pregnancy I had so many people tell me things like deli meat is fine, and other things like that. So annoying when people try to undermine what your Dr says because they think they know better.
Deli meat IS fine if it's properly refrigerated. Sushi too. So don't eat those things at a potluck and you'll be ok haha
I don't understand how these reps can get away with giving medical advice... mind blowing..makes me wonder if anyone will ever sue for damages when something inevitably goes wrong 🙃
I just can’t believe the amount of products people use. I am glad I live in a simple ‘poor’ country were we do not even have access to that amount of things hahaha
Hannah, props to you for sharing this and taking it on at a time where it could really get under your skin. I don't plan on having children and don't know a lot about pregnancy and babies, so education on this side of MLMs is really appreciated/ Congratulations on your pregnancy and thank you for what you do!
The look directly into the camera when she talked about "Joy" for postpartum...
Ok. I have to agree with her on the Pitocin. That nurse LIED. But that’s where our agreement ends. YoungLiving isn’t going to help. 😂
As said, 'Consider the source, remember the motive'. I started learning to understand ingredients in everything from food to my detergent due to health issues and digestive/skin sensitivities. I now educate others on how to read a label, how to rate the harms of ingredients, and help people make an informed decision. The difference for me is that I am not selling anything! I just want people to feel safe, not feel what I feel, and maybe even choose household items that also don't further harm the environment. And of course, I can always provide studies on anything I recommend against; I don't just tell people it's bad because I say so.
This would be funny, if it wasn't so potentially harmful. She thinks iron and folate/folic acid are the same thing?? Damn....
Congratulations on the babygirl Hannah! 🎉
Motherhood is the BEST hood!🥰🥰🥰
Thank you for clarifying the pregnancy loss section. The claims they were making throughout the video were disgusting, however, I have been through multiple pregnancy losses. It is vile to me that she is spreading false claims and false hope to people who are struggling to remain pregnant. It is hard enough without people making it sound like their magic product will solve such a complex issue. Thank you for calling these people out for this.
It's quite common to not feel as tired during the 2nd pregnancy. I did. I definitely felt that way the 1st one was horrid and the 2nd one I was so busy and had to take care of the other kid so I didn't notice as much.
I love these kinds of videos where you provide facts and sources :) My mom is a big supporter of the March of Dimes as she spent her entire Social Worker career in prenatal care.