I SNUCK INTO A MONAT OPPORTUNITY ZOOM CALL | The "Men of Monat" share their experiences
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Hi! Katy and Petunia here! 🙋♀️ I was ROARING throughout this whole call. I can’t believe I went that long without getting kicked off 🤣
yaaaaaaas hahahahaha
KATY AND PETUNIA!! 😂😂 I felt it in my soul that y’all we’re messing with the chat
You’re such a boss trolling the chat. 😂😂😂😂😂
@@HannahAlonzo HAHHAHAHA oh my god, I also was “Pamela”…. Pamela Pumpkin to be exact 🤣 legit no clue how nobody caught onto that! I kept changing my name so it would be harder for the people running the call to keep track/chase me down to kick me out
@@biancacarlson8926 hilarious 👍👌👏
my brain literally went blank when the husband said putting the kids to bed and ordering groceries was “sacrifices” for him ….. lord give me strength please
You’re so right 💀
Get you a man who is willing to learn how to doordash takeout so you can scam people into your pyramid scheme! 😂
YES. Like, uhhh you are also a parent of those kids. That's just part of the role??
Also how hard is it to order takeout/delivery 😂??
@@Nicole-vl5js I was literally like OMG YOU LEARNED TO USE APPS ON YOUR PHONE AND PUT YOUR KIDS TO BED what.
@@doubleh4039 hahaha right
The idea that a husband sees learning to cook and buy groceries online as a 'sacrifice' is 🤢
I absolutely loathe the gendering of necessary life skills, because we all need to eat. Lol
So much for partnership.
Wow, a husband has things to do in a household. Amazing that he can now feed his family. Thank goodness for MLM company to teach a man life skills.
LMAO YES!! how dare they parent their kids and do BARE MINIMUM
Along with the whole 'im home now, and I don't believe it's within a man to want to be at home' 🤮🤮🤮
When he said she finally paid off as a wife. Absolutely not. The disrespect is disgusting 🤢
That was a particularly interesting comment.
You can tell it hurt her
What the 𝘩𝘦𝘭𝘭 was that?! The disrespect 😭
😳😳😳
That couple overall gave me the impression they don't like each other that much anymore, something isn't working well there.
Hun Husband: _"I learned how to use Instacart, I learned how to use DoorDash."_
You mean, you learned how to order delivery. That's like flexing, "I learned how to order a pizza!" like yeah, a ten year old can do that????
Like….that’s the easy version of getting groceries already 🤣 good Lord who is raising these dudes
Husband/Father of freaking year! Somebody get that guy a medal.
Right???? Lolol
Right my niece could order groceries. She's 11.
Let's give him some credit for learning. Poor guy probably thought pasta grows on trees
"You're paying off as a wife" aw hell no. just throw the whole man away
Yeahhhhh no thank you!!
Yup, straight in to the bin!
That sound like he is a pimp
In the dumpster. One with like at least an inch of gross trash juice in the bottom.
Ew ew ew!!! Did these husbands call “putting the kids to bed” and “buying groceries” a SACRIFICE! Yuck. I’m cringing at these antiquated ideologies!
Exactly 😂 like um sorry sir that's called being a parent
@@paulmaccaroni Most men are like this unfortunately.
Literally what I was thinking too. It's so cringey and disgusting. How dare a dad and a husband have to do a "woman's" work. Omg
Also Learning how to order grub hub aka TAKEOUT 🤦🏽♀️ lord
Antiquated ideology? What are you talking about? It sounds more like they're spoiled. Putting your kids to bed and cooking are part of being a parent and yes, part of being a spouse, not "sacrifices". It's mundane, yes, but it's life here and now.
Imagine being a grown man and having to learn how to order food or grocery shop.
These people always make being an introvert a bad thing. Nothing wrong with valuing your alone time.
Introverts unite!
Separately.
In our own homes.
But they also don’t seem to think that introverts can still like… do things that involve people. I am a HUGE introvert, I’m in the corner at a party if someone drags me along… but I’m also an actor and a great public speaker. We contain multitudes.
Introverts don't crumble under the weight of life when they are alone more than 5 min.
I think they don't realize that there's a levels of introversion lol
I think she has maybe confused introverted and shy. I'm definitely not shy but am definitely introverted
How noble of these men tucking their kids in at night occasionally. Beautiful sacrifice.
Omg the tea on the husband who “retired” from his firefighting job. SO embarrassing for them.
“She saw something special in me for this opportunity.”
…A pulse? Who wants to tell this lady that that’s the only requirement to being targeted by a Hun.
Ahhh yes. Makes me think of all the new recruits listening to the opportunity calls/training and getting told how to manipulate others into it.
How they never seem to be offended about being tricked or just leave i dont understand.
@@snooganslestat2030 I think about that every time I see one of these calls, especially when they shout out the newbies. Like, I would hope that if it was me I would realize at some point during the call that I’d been used. I guess by that point they’ve been manipulated and love bombed to the point that they actually believe the BS that they’re ‘helping’ others make their dreams come true 🤢
Probably the fact that she was a pastor’s wife and probably came with a built-in network to prey on. With the husband on board, that church’s flock is probably all in Monat now. This is disgusting…
A pulse is optional.
“I even learned to use Door Dash”. Boy bye! I hate this normalization of “men don’t know how to do anything.” GROW UP!
For real. I'm your partner, not your mother, and I don't *want* to be your mother. 😐
How does this even happen?? Did he live with his parents until he moved in with his girlfriend, and they never taught him to adult? Even if your parents don’t teach you, your natural instincts to become more independent as you grow up should ensure that you learn SOMETHING.
Right?! 🤮
door dash is like the easiest thing to use ever 😂 this man had a whole career but couldn’t figure out door dash?
Hannah I’m so happy that you brought up the fact that he RESIGNED b/c he didn’t want to get vaccinated and not b/c his wife “retired” him. She has made this whole twisted narrative just on that 🙄
I’m not surprised. He literally sounds like he thinks he’s god and the best person out there. But he’s just selfish
@@Makeup4ever5 is it me or is she older than him? She sounds older
The "Men of Monat" sounds like Monat has an Only Fans page.
They’d make more money that way 😂
A calendar?
@@baddie1shoe lol that's what I was thinking
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Recently I was extremely sick. I tested negative for covid so I'm assuming its was the flu. My husband took care of me, our kid, and went to the grocery store for me. I was so grateful and kept thanking him for doing stuff I don't normally expect from him. He gets really confused when I thank him for doing that stuff. He thinks of it as his job too. I get so sick of these mlm husbands talking about "sacrifice " by ordering take out and watching their kids.
Glad I'm not the only one! My husband cooks, washes dishes, washes clothes, does the yard, and so so much more while also working as a full time truck driver. (I also cook, clean, etc and work full time btw) I am always so appreciative of him when he does that and I'm thanking him constantly. He also gets confused when I do. He's like "babe please, you really don't have to thank me. These are things I have to do" but I still thank him anyway and he thanks me. So I really cannot imagine having such an incompetent person as a husband. These "mo-men" need a reality check
He sounds like good people!
🥰 We both say “thank you” for all the things. We just want to express gratitude. If I make dinner, I get the thank you. If he buys take out, he gets the thank you 🤣❤️
You'll be surprised how many husbands/partners don't help their wives when they are sick and still expect them to do all the cooking, cleaning, taking care of the kids, etc. I had an abusive ex who was like that
@@caitlynguthrie5641 Same. Even if I ask my husband to take out the trash on his way to work (he has ADHD, so sometimes he needs a bit of a reminder), I still thank him for doing it. Same if it's my turn to cook, he still thanks me for doing it. When I'm sick, he does more. When he's sick, I do more. Or even if one of us has a bad mental health week, the other simply picks up the slack, it's not sacrifice like that dude called it. It's called being a good partner :D
Oh, my actual God. Putting your own children to bed is not a sacrifice. Every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child.
I speak for all teachers/social workers/ people who work with children when I say “Say. It. Louder. For. The. People. In. The. Back.”
Right! You are being a parent not "helping out" or "babysitting"
I love how the last Hun says, _"We realized this [life, parenthood] is hard and expensive!"_ after *their fourth child.* Like, I don't have any kids or even live on my own and I know that, if you didn't realize that until you've had a *FOURTH BABY* you're either extremely privileged or extremely...naive, we'll say.
Probably both.
To be fair she said they moved from Tennessee to California... It definitely is more expensive to live in Cali... But you are right that they should have known that when they moved.
Love how hubby is like, "I'm happy to contribute to the house and take care of my own children but ONLY when you're out making us money. NO FUN ALLOWED."
This!
Yes that was rich.
Omg right? Sooo gross
I bet he still had no problem going out with the boys when he was still working 🙃
I was looking for this comment!!
That first Dude really took the time to roast his wife as much as he could the whole time he talked lol dang
Ngl id do the same if she convinced me to quit my firefighter job to be in a bloody mlm
@@azulimarie2485 he actually resigned from his job bc he refused to be vaccinated. sad
U can tell they don't like each other by their body language 😂
Completely off-topic, but Hannah, my cat is RIVETED every time you come on screen. She parks herself in front of the video and just stares at you with adoration.
we stan an antimlm cat!
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Oh my goodness I LOVE HER 😍 I wonder if it’s because my cats always make noise in the background of my videos?? Maybe she pairs my voice with “oooh the kitty lady!” 😂
Retiring your husband/spouse sounds like a polite way of saying "divorced"
I always figured it sounded like code for assassinating them to get their life assurance. So absolutely strange 😆
Or maybe putting a contract on his head ... ;)
LOL "I put him out to pasture"
"He went to live on a big beautiful farm with a nice family" LOL
HANNAH seriously, you have ruined me for almost all other anti-mlm content creators. In my opinion, your commentary is THE best in quality and substance. If I had to choose only one anti-mlm account to watch for the rest of my life it would be yours!
I appreciate you watching Mallory! I spent over 8 hours compiling notes/info/researching for this video alone so I'm happy to hear that is coming across in the commentary!
I definitely agree! I am binge watching all her videos
@@trayceedefrees6524 Same here!!
Totally agree!
These men saying "I learned how to use instacart" and "I helped take care of the kids and cook" disgust me like what do you want a congrats you're doing the bare minimum. Its the same as saying "I shower so I don't smell" or "I don't scream at everyone I meet". Its the bare minimum
Hey, showering and not yelling at people can both be REEEEALLY hard at times;
I remember the first time I labeled this type of activity as "weaponizing hope." I was standing in my backyard, and it was 2004. It's when businesses bank on people believing they will beat the odds or be better off in a year than they are today. Like, those ads that say "pay now, no payments for 12 months." Well, if you can't afford the payment today, why on earth do you think you can afford it in a year? Well, that's "weaponizing hope," and I despise it. Hope is supposed to be a good thing...it's the thing that can get you through rough times. But when hope is manipulated, it becomes a liability rather than an asset. That's the same thing these MLMs do. They convince people that they are special and will be the ones to beat the odds. Everyone can't beat the odds, and we know the majority will not.
This is such a wonderful explanation Shelby!!
I saw some show, can’t remember what it was exactly, but it had demons with different names like, Lies, Murder, etc. There was one guy they thought was good, but in the end he was the worst of all. He was…Hope. Can’t remember much of the show at all, but that stuck with me. I’d never thought of hope as a negative thing before, but sometimes hope can be truly cruel and devastating, in such a sneaky way.
"At first it wasn't about the money, it was about her having time with other women..." Ugh. When I was a young mom, Pampered Chef, Usborne Books, and Creative Memories took over my social circle. I thought of them as "paying parties" and couldn't afford to keep socializing in this way. I think MLMs have choked out so much of our just-for-fun social interactions.
You and I must be around the same age. Throw in me being a military spouse where this is so prevalent. I was grateful when it finally stopped when our kids got a bit older.
@@Annap137 You must have had it coming at you constantly! For me, it didn't exactly stop. I just began opting out. I didn't understand MLMs, I just knew I was spending too much money just to hang out with people. I began replying that I "made it a personal policy to not attend these parties." And I stopped getting invited! But also, there weren't any invitations to anything because people stopped hosting no-strings-attached social events. It's very sad.
I. Forgot about Creative Memories
My mom got me a pizza stone and mandolin from pampered chef and I love them; I could never have justified the purchase as there’s so many great quality items without sketchy mlm histories. But I was glad to get them. 🤣
I think we legit hit every single type of manipulation in this call. The double speak from the husbands and the nodding in agreement of the wives is everything!! I truly hope Katie is a troll… it’s hilarious
Omg this man is horrid. I’ve been married 26 years, as a partner. It’s not babysitting when it’s your own kids. Also while I do like to grocery shop and don’t work my husband wouldn’t have to learn to grocery shop or consider it too much work. This whole call is just unreal. Thx for making this video.
The type of father who expects ass pats for being a parent. 🙄
Omg I can’t believe that dude just said his wife ‘finally paid off.’ She was only RAISING YOUR CHILDREN and keeping your house. Even if he couches it as a joke, that’s a horrible thing to say and kudos to you for calling it out!
The third ‘mo-man’ is acting as if his wife being “introverted” is a terminal illness. I can’t even imagine the devastation they have brought to their “followers” in the church. This is the perfect trio of predatory couples.
I agree. Having been raised in a Pastoral family, I cannot believe the ongoing "God push" of that Pastor/Pastor's Wife couple and that "host couple. Ugh. That would have me leaving a church if my husband and I were approached about getting involved in such a company. No, thanks. 🙄
This video is a poster example of: "tell me you are in a cult, without telling me you are in a cult".
Katie is 100% an awesome troll.. "I need myself a Moman".. 🤣🤣
Yeah at this point I don’t think there’s any way she was being serious 😂
The firefighter husband looks like he’d rather be stuck in a fire than sit there and talk.
When are men going to realize that even though the baby didn’t count out of them, the little ones are HIS CHILDREN. It’s not called “baby sitting” it’s called parenting as$.
Kevin from home alone in the early 90s figured out how to order Pizza and not even open the door for the delivery man. He was even safe for Corona times. And he was 10 years old.
I think he was 8, actually. Although I could be wrong, and yes lol, definitely safe for corona
@@MeetTheALFFam you may be right. I don't actually know how old he was. But being 8 doesn't make the case any better for that family. 🤣
My FACE when you revealed he quit because of vaccination requirements. I'm DYING of laughter, omg.
Nestor: "She didn't work for ten years."
30 seconds later: "Her job was way harder than mine."
Dude. Did she not work or did she work harder than you? Pick one!
Yeah I really did not love that part of the call. Ew.
He’s gross
So according to Nester, my husband is a submissive husband for talking with me, his wife, before he decided to leave his job and start his masters program. Because discussing big life decisions with your partner is "bad" and "controlling".
Oh yes, you’re definitely controlling him 🙄
@Nikki How dare you control your husband lol. I don't get these couples. I always consult my husband and he does the same with me. I thought that was what a marriage was about? I don't think it's controlling I think it's loving and respecting each other because all choices effect a household.
They always have to have an “introvert” to prove anyone can do this.
Hahaha the token introvert!!!!
And "introvert" inevitably means shy, lacking confidence, lonely, and/or socially anxious. 🙄 I am an introvert but am not shy, lonely, or socially anxious. Overall I am a pretty confident person. I just need alone time to recharge my social battery.
@@ridiculousspider Yes, I just commented on another comment saying the same. No one would ever say I was shy but I am 'on' a fraction of my time and the rest in bliss of my little house alone ahaha
I love how they’re promoting the wives not telling their husbands that they’re making this “investment” while simultaneously preaching about “traditional values” 🤔🥴 A marriage is a partnerships and if you’re already lying to your spouse, you’re heading down a path of no return.
Blanca, I love your content! ♡
Exactly. It was so confusing
Imagine having to defend literally any other profession like this...
That’s what I’m saying. What other profession do you have to CONVINCE your loved ones it’ll work and that it’s a good idea? And you’re encouraged to go behind their back and do it anyway if they don’t agree. What other job would ask you to do that!
I was part of MLM's for 5 years, and I STILL feel like I need to issue personal apologies to everyone I talked into joining me.
What the hell does “going out prospecting” mean? Do they go out to bars and try to convince random women to join their team?
Also, congrats sir for doing the basic duties of being a father. You learned to use DoorDash? What a hero.
The bar is basically on the ground for some husbands and fathers. It is bizarre to me because most men I know know how to cook, grocery shop, put their kids to bed, etc. And none of that is seen as a sacrifice or being praiseworthy. My own dad who is from the Boomer generation was and is one of those men who sees doing those things as just part of being an adult, spouse, and/or parent.
I could say a million things about this that makes me wanna vomit, but instead I'm just gonna say that I LOVE the mini deep dive here. Way to go Hannah!
And the pastor right there is the reason I stopped going to church. Using God to get people to join is just really gross
@Indika Jackson thank you so much. That actually means a lot
He ought to read Ezekiel 34:10
That man who went like, "we made so many sacrifices, I had to learn how to order groceries." Truly inspiring how he managed to overcome the odds and actually master the incredible craft of using an app on your phone.
I was wondering why the wife didn't throw dinner in the crackpot in the morning so the family had a home-cooked meal without the expense of eating out or ordering in.
Is anyone else SUPER concerned that that guy didn't know how to cook... or get groceries... or use instacart... or do anything that an adult should be able to do?
Yeah it is concerning 🥴
Maybe I'm reading too much into this but I've personally noticed Huns say one of the perks of an MLM is staying home with your kids, but whenever they talk about their kids it's always about how exhausting and isolating it is to be a mother. I can't remember a Hun describing herself enjoying motherhood other than a throwaway "I can spend more time with them" compared to them going on and on about how much children seem to sap of their energy and identity. I can't imagine being a young child and always hearing my mother say how hard being around me was and how much she lost in time or money or herself having to raise me, I would feel like I was an unwanted burden, imo.
The way these hun moms always talk about how exhausting and “Groundhog Day” motherhood is, actually deters me from actually ever wanting kids 🤣🤣🤣
Excellent point!
Well, lots of women say stuff like that or have moments like that. They just don't repeatedly say it out loud on recorded zoom calls.
It would be interesting to see a study of young adults whose mothers (parents) were in MLMs and how it affected them growing up.
@@helgeer7916 well for one it completely skewed my view of children and motherhood to the point that i was extremely insensitive to mothers because if kids were so bad and so exhausting and so expensive, (something I'd hear a lot in my mums mlm pitches growing up) you must just be stupid for having them. Ive definitely changed my viewpoint on mothers but the idea of having kids scares me because i dont want to hate and resent my children the way mlm mums do :/
“Time freedom”
Also Britty: “I don’t even remember the last five years!” 🙃
How sad that the kid is like "hey daddy you ain't even fishing, you're just taking pictures" and he's like "oh you silly goose, this is all for the Gram, cause ya know, recruitment." Like what?!
Sorry, but his sacrifice was to bring his kids to bed, cook and buy groceries? Shouldn't it be normal that men are also doing this stuff from time to time? And having a 9-5 job means as a woman you are never allowed to have a night out with your friends?
The mens in these situations like to pull ye Olde weaponised incompetence out when asked to do the bare minimum, and then want a medal for 'contributing' barf
Just told my husband if he ever says he is "babysitting our daughter" or "sacrificing" apparently learning how to use an app, he talks the smack, he gets the smack!
Not only is the pool drying up but you have so many mlms draining the same pool!! People are burnt out with the messages and become more and more aware and a lot thanks to anti-MLM commentary like yours!! I think it’s so, so helpful for so many reasons.
The Venn Diagram of MLM reps and toxic Christianity is… a circle 🤮
That first husband was the biggest red flag omfg
When I was married, the number of times I used, “I need to talk to my husband…” as an excuse to get out of a sales pitch. 😂 Did I need to? No. I just wanted the conversation to end, and sadly people accept that more than just a direct no.
When Britty said she’s looking for a “side job” like starting a blog or becoming a wedding videographer… um my husband is a full time wedding videographer. That’s not a side hustle, ma’am 🤣
Also, she was trying to become a Notary. Almost everyone can find a Notary who signs stuff for free
I just love how every MLM says “this business” when they talk about what they do.
Was legit thinking this today like, stop it ✋🏻 plz.
Maybe they're concerned they'll forget which MLM they're currently in and say the wrong name.
That grinds my gears EVERY SINGLE TIME! As someone who is trying desperately to start their own business and my husband is trying to start his own as well, it isn’t just a starter pack sweetie!!!! Ugghhhhh
Kay is the hero of the chat! "Can I join if I don't believe in God?"
I'm dying!! 🤣
That one made me laugh when I was watching it live 😂
I'm an atheist and this is something that always bugs me especially since no-one asks about it...I mean *do* you need to believe in God to join? Will you be expected to sit through God this and God that talk?
@@Nocturnalux they actually do expect you to sit through sermons and to conform to their brand of severe American Evangelical christianity. They're no better or different to those creeps who run Prosperity Gospel churches. It's absolutely vile.
I really liked that you brought up the whole discussing thing. I recall discussing my desire for joining Mary Kay with my parents before the pandemic struck, and they talked me out of it. Had that not happened, I'd be in big financial trouble. In addition, it reminds me of a rant from a Beach Body coach who says that if someone turns down her invitation to join her boot camp because their significant other said no, then that's a form of abuse. Sets me off when MLM participants who say that you have to let your S.O. join their pyramid scheme or you are being abusive/controlling.
Holy cow! These women need to quit their MLM and instead start a business coaching women on how to brainwash their husbands to get what they want! These guys are BEYOND
The saddest part is that a lot of people at the top of MLMs DO become “network marketing coaches” 💀
thank you for explaining the whole “retirement” myth.. i feel like that became the one part of their pitch that i honestly believed and even that is bullshit. love it.
In jobs with pensions, "retiring" means something very specific. E.g. separating vs retiring from the miltary. The hun in this video is using the phrase "retire my husband," which is very common in the huniverse. The FIRE world uses the phrase the same way - no longer need their income, become a SAHH/SAHW. The problem here is that (1) he is in a job with a pension, so the word "retire" has an implied level of meaning which is not true here and (2) the financials were not, based on the timing, the primary rationale.
Also - Hannah, you look like Claire Danes in the beginning of this video!
“You decide how much you earn” is a line that was parroted over and over when I worked at a pawn shop and we made commission. They used that as an excuse to not give raises and when I pointed out that I’m not in control of the products we take in or advertising or anything, I was not being a team player 🙄 my managers where always getting into mlms too lol
Also what you said about him basically pitting spouses against each other is right on the money. When you're in an intimate relationship with someone where you live together, pay bills together, have kids together, etc, you *have* to consult them because you're _sharing_ your life with them, what you do will effect their life. They have the right to be consulted at the very least, or else why are you sharing your life with this person if you don't want to actually have them at least engage in your life and choices????
" I was a firefighter contributing to society and now Im in a pyramid scheme" lol
The way other people might excitedly react to an unexpected cameo in a superhero movie or something is how I react when Zeke appears in a Hannah video.
So glad I'm not the only one! If you become a member, there are some SUPER cute kitty emojis Hannah created that you can use
The "friendly" marital sniping isn't at all awkward and uncomfortable.😬
I love the anti mlmers getting on these calls and debunking every tactic they use to recruit.
He really said that learning how to order groceries for his family on an app was a sacrifice.
While watching theses calls I like to think of what MLM stands for. Today I came up with Massive Load of Manure.
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Making life miserable
Most Likely Mormons
@@katyr2382as a fomo, I chuckled 😂
LOL! “Should I be a real estate agent, should I be a videographer, should I be a….” I’m so SURE you tried those things! They are very expensive industries to be in. I’m certain she didn’t just “try” any of those lol
All these men are embarrassing 🤦🏻♀️
The part that upset me is when men act like being a full time mother isn’t a “real job.” It’s not! I don’t get paid, I don’t get health insurance or a 401k from it and I definitely don’t get breaks!
For the firefighter couple, they just seem so unhappy together…. The toxicity there is just ridiculous
It’s so insidious the number of preacher wives in MLMs (particularly higher up). Their place in that community is that of a trusted, moral authority figure. You trust these people to give you information on how to live your life, on how to look at/interpret God, how to make decisions based on that. How to literally live your life to get into heaven.
These people (a lot of the time), know the vulnerabilities of these church goers. They have an immediate downline of followers who don’t need their trust reinforced, they already have it in the most intimate area of ones life. People are literally persuaded to outcast “sinners” and non-believers by these authority figures (in certain circumstances), so why would they not trust them in this sense?
Also, the gendered roles these people possess, makes it a gateway for stay-at-home mothers needing or wanting more. The idea that this is okay is quite sickening. I think it speaks volumes that the access these women have to potential recruits within their community position and exploit that to it fullest potential. While we have no evidence that they have recruited church members, I think it would be nice to know if there is that kind of boundary. There does seem to be a lot of preacher wives in MLMs and also in higher positions, it’s not uncommon. I would like there to be some rule that no financial gain can be made from church members but that kind of defeats the purpose…
It’s just the strongest form of faith manipulation. Faith in the church alongside the MLM. If these women recruit other church women, they already have shared views on life. They are their target audience but also a lot of people would feel like “God” is calling them into this through them, that to fail them would be to let down an important leader of not only their “business”, but community. They have their information already, heck they might have had things like marriage counselling from the pastor! Through being their up line, they have intertwined themselves in almost every aspect of these people’s lives, so to leave the MLM could mean losing friends, family and your church.
Even if not explicitly, leaving would definitely leave some tension and guilt/shame. Could letting down the preacher’s family financially be letting God down? Could straining your relationship with them and upsetting their finances be straining your relationship with God and being uncharitable? What happens if the wife changes MLMs or stops? You might have to follow as there might be a communal divide from MLM 1 and MLM 2. There are so many ways in which this can go wrong and it’s deeply concerning.
Also, I am so happy that people who are supposed to be “saving lives” are showing their true colours. Good riddance. “Retiring” in the long run is much better than fostering a workplace of science deniers who also should rely on science and ethical standards.
Such a thoughtful and beautifully written comment, thank you!
This is exactly why I feel that most religious organizations are cults. The group think and moral control people allow in their lives through their religion is scary.
As a Utahn I can tell you the Mormon church is absolutely wrought with MLMs
The first part of you comment aged like fine wine beautifully, unfortunately the last part of your comment did not.
43:00 - I'm sorry... this guy is saying that having to learn how to order groceries or take-out & bathe his own kids or cook a meal once in a while were "SACRIFICES" he had to make?! Wtf?
Yeahhhhh not a good look 😬
Yes it’s unreal. That sounds like something my dad (who would be 90 if he were alive) would say except my dad did the grocery shopping. He didn’t do a lot else around the house sadly.
I love how they think this is appealing 😅 "you will hear a lot of bad stuff....just ignore it!" "I made sacrifices for this by learning to order food." "You got a job and are finally paying off!" Oh man sign me up!
Really good analysis on the firefighter, Hannah. Good job!
ew I hate how that first guy said she didnt work for 10 years as if taking care of kids, him, and a house isn’t work..
Ugh yes. According to him, she was just at home with the kids. 🙄
Ladies, you are worth so much more than Monat will give you, and you deserve an equal partner in all things.
I feel like it's a very american thing to think that dreams and aspirations are more important then statistics. It's the whole "if you believe in yourself enough, you can achieve anything you want against all odds" thing.
“I’ll just run down to the gas station and buy a lotto ticket, thanks” hahahah. soooo true!!!! I really want to use that the next time someone tries to send me a msg and recruit me into their pyramid scheme 😂😂😂
DO IT 😂
Just by the body language of the first couple you can guess they are not close or feel as a team, she is very closed off with arms crossed, he is turned away with his arm often “blocking” his space from hers, almost facing away from her. It’s speculation of course, but they don’t make an impression of a happy couple.
I agree. Their faces are blurred, but as soon as he started talking she closed off. Everything that came out of his mouth had me 🤢. Gross.
I’m a small business owner (like, a real one, not an mlm 🤣) and I actually think the second husband is inadvertently making some points that are worth considering. When you are keeping track of your profits/losses, it’s a good idea to factor in the ancillary costs as well. My business began to take off, so we hired a cleaning service, we increased our food budget because I was cooking less, I started adding to my wardrobe for client meetings after having been a SAHM for many years. As I was taking stock of my finances every week, I took those expenses into consideration as well. The Huns don’t seem to consider these things-along with the most basic direct expenses of their MLMs. That husband who quit his job as a firefighter? Totally his choice, but they walked away from significant benefits so he could be supported by her scammy mlm. I hope they are socking away a lot of cash, because monat is going to tank and they’re going to be HURTING.
The fact that you go to these calls and watch them live shows just how much you love us 😭 you are better than me girl I would never have the patience 😂
I just love how they go "we'll let our husbands speak", and proceed to give a long backstory of themselves.
Also with the first couple, his wife was socially isolated?
The way that he framed doing Monat as female empowerment is gross. A husband also has a responsibility to look out for their wives, not just blindly support. Especially when it comes to -scams- "high risk investments". And if things don't work out, it's on both parties, because you know, the team thing.
He's right about about "spending a couple hundred bucks to be a potential millionaire", the keyword is *POTENTIAL* .
Also the men did _not_ offer a different perspective, they were just parroting, or "paraphrasing" their wives
I LOVE the point you made that if there were so many successful people, they would have more people sharing their experience than the same people over and over. If that isn't a red flag, I don't know what is!
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If "anyone" can be successful in "this business," then they should have an endless supply of success stories to share! Why do they keep recycling the same few people? Oh... right. Because nobody else gets to the top. 🤦♀️
Men of Monat...sounds like a Playgirl special issue.
Lmao!
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Complete with a firefighter!
(Well, _ex_ firefighter, but you get the joke)
I’ve never heard the phrase “atta girl” come across so condescending and misogynistic! It’s usually a lovely term
I love that these MLM livestreams are all now basically 30% anti-MLMers 😂
Omg! You had me rolling when you did the tally of MLMs in different countries 🤦🏾♀️ it's so crazy how they didn't even do basic research before saying things like that!
Can we talk about how even if you have best friends in the "business" if you EVER quit or stop, those great best friends are GONE.
It’s funny how you can DEBUNK EVERYTHING THEY SAY . Wow good job Hanna for finding out he quit his JOB .. this is AWESOME.
I have never been so excited for a video that's an hour and 20 minutes long 😂 You're quickly becoming one of my favorite RUclipsrs
Thanks for your support Bonnie! Hope you enjoy!
just so you know - I was watching this and I got an ad for a business proposing methods to improve my sales in my hypothetical MLM business 😂
also hilarious because it sounded like it might be an MLM about MLMs
“Block out the Haters” with the heart glasses was comedy gold!
Hannah this is sooo good! You unpacked all the narratives so well. Thank you!
I WAS THERE TOO 😂😂😂
yes, the chat was hilarious!
These guys are wildly incompetent as men 😂 omg you learned to order delivery... I'm so proud of you! You're doing great sweaty
Omggg just picked up my paintbrush for an evening of illustration work and you post this, THANK YOU HANNAH xxxxx
Do they ever talk about how the products are good? I just hear that my life is going to change 🤣🤣🤣