2023 YZ250X - Is it a good bike? (Hard Enduro/XC) | Bike Check
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Don’t worry, you bought a real “GREAT!” Dirt bike. The YZ has historically till today “rated the best overall dirt bike period!” I love them so much I own 3. I build dirt bikes I’ve done it for 12 years. I own a 2000 YZ250, an 02 YZ250, and an 05 YZ250. You really don’t need any $12,000 euro bike, parts are very expensive and not even close to available as your YZ. Most parts from 99 till now will mount up to your bike! Huge parts availability, no other bike has it so good! I’ll always be a YZ guy, just don’t need a euro bike.
Preach brother. I owned a 94 300exc. I had to order a impeller cover (this was like 06) they had to cast the mf in Austria and it took 4 months and 500 to get, for a freaking magnesium cover. No thanks. Gimme yz.
I have a ktm 300 and my buddy has a 250x. It's a wicked bike.
Heck ya man! Not gonna lie I still want a KTM as well :)
Whats up bro! I have also owned a handful of YZ250 2strokes. I have never got to try the YZ250x though. My current YZ is bored to 270 and I really enjoy how much better it is in the low to mid rmp range than the standard YZ250. The 270 makes it feel more like my 2019 Husqvarna TX300, which is an amazing bike but also cost more and more expensive for parts and everything mist of the time. That being sad, I am looking for some feedback on the difference between YZ250 vs YZ250x. Thanks alot. Sick bike! Braaaaaaap!
My wr300yz is going to be yz300x but it will be alive an should be home this Saturday I will try an get a go pro an post a video when possible but I'm going to have a 2005 with the x transmission and the receipts from moto 1 of Nampa to prove everything.
I just don't have the plastic upgrade but i think I like the look of the 05 better lol
I have a 2017 YZ250X with a SmartCarb and Scott's stabilizer. STUPID amounts of fun to ride BRAAAAAAAAP 🤘
MINT! the 2023 looks beautiful.
Ive got a 2021 yz250x and im in the same boat. to make it compete with a ktm/husky 300, ive changed to 13/50 gearing, putting a magura hydraulic clutch and a 13oz steahly flywheel weight like my old bike.. and force accessories bash plate with pipe guard.. wish i could come to the usa to ride. Australia is great but the US trails look epic
$7,800 for that bikes beyond amazing! The cheap pegs might be something you like now but once you hit one on the side of a boulder or cliff, it will snap off and your ride is gone for the day. When it comes to pegs, you really do get what you pay for. Great bike! BRAAAP
Also, for 40 bucks, they are made by communism in china. In a few years, more people will understand it was the worst 40 bucks spent.
You did not get your information from a knowledgeable source. From a guy who makes his living porting/stroking 2 stroke engines, the engine changes you claim are not correct. Raising the exhaust port (for the prime example, and 5mm is huge), is a mod for more top end power, not low rpm power, (I will lose low rpm power.). I have the 2019 YZ250 that I have lowered (.75" off the suspension and 1" off the seat" to bring the bike back down to a rational height, (and much easier cornering. Lower your bars for much better cornering too. We had it right in the 80's90's before freestyle got big.). The engine mods I will do will shift the top rpm power to lower rpm power for a much better trail riding experience. That 250x pipe is tuned for more low end than the MX model. I can tell by looking at it's longer tuned length and cone diameter to the stinger pipe.
1) Add the FMF Gnarly pipe. The pro circuit platinum 2 pipe is a higher revving pipe than the FMF Gnarly. The FMF also has a bit more frame clearance at the header section, in case you bend the header loop in the frame direction.
2) Lower the cylinder by removing the cylinder base gasket (.5mm), and seal the cylinder to the cases with a good gasket sealer that resists gasoline, for a lower exhaust port and more compression. Should still be able to use 93 pump gas with the stock low compression head. Removing the gasket instead of taking .020" off the base of the cylinder is reversible if needed.
3) I am adding the V-force reeds, and i may remove the stock reed block spacer.
4) Add epoxy (origional JB weld epoxy is good) to fill in the rear transfer hooks, for better scavenging at the rear of the cylinder at lower rpm's
5) Clean up any casting goobers in the stock ports and tunnels.
6) jet the carb well after the mods, (stock jetting is very rich also, and you will find a other 2hp with the jetting alone if done well.).
7) modify the power valve (for lowering the cylinder) if needed.
After you get more low end power, you will probably gear it back up a bit.
I also designed and made my own full wrap hand guards that have many pluses compared to the full wraps on the market today, (made from a set of Cycra's), that I can't find anybody to sell the design to. So I guess I will be the only person in the world with them.
Just rode a 24’ 250X today. It’s a super great bike out of the box, the low-mid power is very solid. Runs well in my area with stock jetting.
I race a regular 21 yz 250 stock with only a PC 304 factory sound silencer at Jday races in New England. It rips and is quite nimble. Tire selection is limited vs 18” rear wheel, besides that !!🤘🏻🤙🏻awesome!!
What is that grip you use on the side. Where can I get it? Thanks in advance
Great bike, no injection, great suspension it’s a win win win
Why do people tend to get these for trail riding? I hear its because you can lug it around all day on small aingle track or rocky trails, but man, on that wide open dort roads id be scared of fhat power band wrecking my shit. Currently deciding between a YZ125X or a 250X. I dont exactly do technical rocky stuff all the time, about half open dirt roads and half rocky roads. Im not exactly a seasoned rider, somewhere between a beginner and Intermediate. Which bike would you recommend?
What did you get?
How are those pegs holding up? My worry with a lot of the Amazon aluminum stuff is that it breaks easily, and I already go through a lot of foot pegs, even using the quality steel stuff.
I’m on my second Yz250. I’m considering adding a YZ250x. Is the power delivery that much more manageable on the x than the regular YZ250?
How is the low-end torque? Is it a KTM killer? I'm looking at one today.
Love it man! I haven't ridden a 300 to compare but I love it and haven't had any issues doing anything my friends on 300's do!
@@THMXCO Ty, I'm headed to Yamaha today to get a 2023. I thank you for the video.
@@tred2832 Nice man! I'm glad I could aid in that! ENJOY!!
@@tred2832there’s a few things that are worth their weight in gold for a 250x meant for the tight stuff. Flywheel weight, lower geared sprockets, rekluse clutch, an xc cut head(smoothens out the bottom end quite a bit, more controllable power) and a Lectron/smart carb which again smoothens out the power band, gets better fuel economy, and is amazing for elevation changes
@@THMXCO Your super low gearing gets through the dead zone of the low rpm power faster,---but you also shift more.
My ported polished piped jetted reeded weighted 94 wr 250 eats new ktms for lunch the only ktm that comes close is the older 380 exc do everything except over bore and leave the head alone or your gonna need race gas 105 + octane and the ktm problem will be gone
To compete w 300s, wouldn't you want the non X. I'd think closer gear ratios would give you an advantage outside of flat out. I like the 250x ratios but I dont race, I trail.
I’m about to downsize from a CRF450RL. Hoping the weight difference will be a lot more enjoyable
I had a set of those pegs on my Harley. The little studs will vibrate out real quick.
Seem pretty solid to me man! 34 hours on em and they're rock solid :)
@@THMXCO Glad to hear it!
@@THMXCO do you have a Amazon link for the pegs
Could always lock tight them if needed, and everything vibrates out on a Harley. :)
I have had an xc250, xcw 300 and a few yz 250 and 125’s. The yz 250 is still my favorite as a do it all bike. MX, enduro and trail riding it will get the job done. KYB suspension is the deciding factor for me. My next bike will be a Rieju 300 as it is street legal here in Spain, KYB suspension, kickstart and a carburetor. If the Yamaha 250x was available here I would buy one of those.
"I'm really hard on dirt bikes "
Dude you have 36 hrs on your orignal rear tire. 😅
Thanks for watching the video.
And it shows. The tire is pretty much worn out for the woods riding he does.
The yz250x ok for sand dunes? I like the price and reliability for sure
I'd go with a 450 for dunes, but the 250 2T would do the job :)
@@THMXCO great thanks man, appreciate the vids
Dude i was listening to this in my car and I'm like where the fuck is that cop?!?!? Lol good vid man
Im glad you can still buy them new. Saves me the time of having to rebuild a used bike 😊
KTM 250 XC-W is well beyond this old tech Yamaha!
No electric start
No fuel injection
No electric power valve
It’s an MX bike from 2005 with an 18” rear
And low comp piston ,& flat seat 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Price is awesome but KTM Killer 🤣
My KTM 150 exc would eat this bike in the forest .
I own a YZ 250 and a KTM 150 , YZ’s are for a MX track
MY YZ is fitted with GTYR pipe , 9 oz flywheel weight , 52 rear sprocket and it’s not close to My 150 although it does need a 18” rear with Tubliss and gummy hybrid tyres but it’s not close to KTM in the hard , technical stuff . And KTM suspension is next level too . Just have to fork out the $$$ for KTM 😭🤮
When will Yamaha truly develop an enduro 2T weapon with elec start 😢
Ya no doubt man! But for $5,000 more than this bike :)
I do wish Yamaha would make advances. Huge selling opportunity.
@@THMXCO in Australia this YZ is only $1500 less than KTM 🤷♂️🤦♂️
@@THMXCO I think you were right the first time being thousands of dollars less expensive, which is why you bought this bike, and the YZ250 is still the most sold bike today. I know the bike is not perfect for anything, (MX or off road), but i would rather modify it the way I like, (and make it a very tough to beat off road bike), still with less money, and the sanctification that you made the bike perfect for you. Let the people who don't know who to set up their bike buy a EPA expensive bike. I would do that too if I knew nothing about setting up a stock bike. If you have the skill/knowledge, you can make this bike better than the stock KTM, and gain a lot more satisfaction of a job well done. :) The only mods i have not done to my bikes is re-valving suspension, and I doubt this bike needs it.
@user-fz8fy4zl1c I own both 🤷♂️ same same except KTM has better 2 stroke technology period ☝️ four strokes are whatever you choose is great but 2 strokes is different
I would love a fuel injection elec start 2 stroke yz125x
But it doesn’t exist
How do you get seat off to get to air filter!!???
I don't know about the X model , I'm in the market to get a yz 250 I don't know if the X is worth it with that gearbox , I was thinking of getting a normal yz and just fit a stand to it lol
Love the gearbox man!
1st and 2nd are the same and 3rd is closer to second. It's actually in my opinion more useable even for motocross!
Either is a great choice though!
How is the bar vibration compared to the ktm/husky? Tolerable? but Im sure you are used to it by now with the YZ
Oh ya, it's very tolerable. Not bad at all honestly.
The KTM/Husky after 2019 have virtually no vibration though
That's a beautiful bike man, I love yamahas, where can I buy those hand guards from, I have a 2021 250fx and a 2020 yz125x I want to but hand guards for both. Thanks
www.sxslideplate.com
Love the YZs but definitely no KTM killer. Not without some serious head and cylinder mods. That stock head is terrible. Get it cut.
Better yet, lower the cylinder .5mm and add the FMF Gnarley pipe.
The stock head is pretty low compression on my 2019 YZ250. I think it was 2011 when Yamaha went to it. You can machine .0085" our stoke heads to match what Yamaha used to use, but lowering the cylinder will still gain a bit more compression with his stock head, and lowering the exhaust port will help match the lower rpm pipe too.
Dude, that OTD price is incredible!
Also, we're not even gonna talk about the clean a$$ 1st gen Cummins Turbo RAM in the back?!?
The IMS Super Stocks are just about a $100, I think, and are my goto on all my bikes.
Thanks man! haha it was my grandpas!
I've been looking at tank options. I definitely need a bigger one!
@@THMXCO Love it! Respect for Gramps!
I have an 05 Yz250 and rebuilt it and love it
I got both bikes ktm300 and a yz250x only thing it needs to kill the ktm
Is a electric start
Yamaha sells more of these bikes than any manufacture. The YZ250 is the most sold bike in the world, because it is the most affordable. I know i don't need electric start, FI, or any of the otehr things the EPA forced KTM to make that raised the price out of reach for so many riders.
Bro, 5 or 10 thousand?!?
You'll probably get it bc you ride sick af, but c'mon!
Maybe drop those specs in your description or about section sooner?
Thanks man!
Drop what specs?
@Ty Hageman camera type and settings, haha. You said at 5 or 10 thousand subs. It's all good, though.
I see you have mad views on tiktok, so you'll probably blow up on youtube and no time.
Awesome deal at 7800 OTD. Do you mind sharing where this dealer is?
It was special pricing for me, but they're $8500 out the door
Sweet bike. I have an 06 and love it
Same bike man! hahah. Haven't changed a bit!
I wish they would update the yammy to compete with the Euro’s. Especially with a reliable e start. I could go back to a YZ then 😀
@user-fz8fy4zl1c I have a '18 ktm 300 and I don't think I've use the kick starter twice maybe. I'd say they're extremely reliable.
@@outfitr9703Exactly. All yamaha four strokes have electric start and no kickstart. With the quality of electric starts on bikes now, reliability is not a solid reason imo. I’ve had a kickstart fail on a YZ250 too.
Hey Ty, what GNCC class did you race ?
Bad ass dodge !!!
What jetting you running.?
Don't trim square edges on your grip tape. They snag and peel easier. Cut rounded corners
Thanks for the tip. Might try that! Haven't noticed peeling yet but if/when I do I will surely do that!
Is this expensive
If you get it new
If you watch I actually say the price :)
Yes. The 1986 production rule (for the USA only. The FIM stopped factory bike development in the USA because we were smoking them at the last 5 MXofN races at the time), and the 4-stroke forced on the industry by a dictatorship called the EPA, made all bikes about 2-3 times more expensive than they would be with out that intervention. Car/truck prices are high because of that intervention too.
Did you change carb... I noticed not a Mikuni. if so what is the keihin carb you put on.
It's all stock so I'm not entirely sure
Traditionally, Jap 2-stroke manufactures change back and fourth between Keihin and Mikuni, but my 2019 YZ250 is stock with the Keihin, and I am sure his is too.
My biggest concern about this bike is the suspension. Is it set up well for really rocky rooted New England trails? My 2021 Yz250fx feels hopelessly stiff even after getting suspension done and I’m looking for a change
Oh yes man! I just finished a 3 hour race in some of the roughest conditions known to man
I run my clickers almost all the way out. I run the B class near podium and weigh 195lbs. Hope this helps
@@THMXCO almost all the way out meaning compression almost all the way soft and rebound almost all the way slow?
@@brentrutchick9381 Yes clickers all the way turned out to the left!
@@brentrutchick9381 He means the compression all the way out (soft). His stock springs are also a bit to light for his weight. The rebound all the way soft will give the bike a basketball effect, so still use them to control the rebound.
Not having electric start is a con. I can't tell you how handy it is to have that magic button when you're in a awkward position. Not to mention that clutch pull.
True man So true. If someone is a serious Hard Enduro rider it's a major disadvantage
Anybody with a bike that is about 2" too tall will find themselves in more awkward positions in off road riding. I don't want the battery/weight,---or a tall bike. :)
yamaha guys always've got something to prove
Dudes just telling you about his bike 😂
And have 2 grand more in their pocket to prove it.
How is the stock suspension on rocky trails ?
Very good. SSS is wonderful to begin with but this stuff is plush as a pillow with some tuning with the clickers
@@THMXCO With your weight, I am sure the stock springs are a bit too soft. That maybe OK for the little rocks and roots that you want your suspension to react well over and keep the tire on the ground, but I am sure you bottom easily over little jumps. But especially after you set the rear sag to 100 or 105mm, the front end will ride low, and give the bike a squirrely/unstable feeling. I weigh 215 and had to go up 2 rates front and rear, (typical off road is faster whooped out single track in Michigan.), and I am sure you will like the front end better with a spring weight one step up from stock. My stock YZ was the worst handling/feeling bike I ever had by far. Luckily I know/figured out how to fix it. Those SSS forks are the best I have ever ridden with also.
I don't really care about the gearbox and lack of estart, but rip ktm if Yamaha ever adds those features. (KTM is badass, mostly joking)
Right?
Never going to be a KTM killer until they’re built from the factory with electric start AND fuel injection.
For $5K more lmao.
@@THMXCO $2,500 max I would hope. If that were the case I would consider going with the yz250x 🤷🏻♂️
@@Singletrack541 MSRP for a 2023 YZ250X - $7,999
2023 KTM 300 XC-W - $11,100
Enough of a price difference for me. And considering a 2016 - 2021 YZ250X is the same bikes minus plastics, I'd take my chances on a used on and pay $4500 - $5500. KTM's hold their value too well.
It's really like comparing apples to oranges and is more of a figure of speech.
@@THMXCO exactly, get one for $5,000, put that pandora electric start kit or whatever it’s called and you’d have a solid bike.
You have $30 pegs on your bike you just automatically lost my interest on your input on this bike common sense should be not to get those hope you change them don’t want you to hurt a foot/angle
They've worked amazing for me! To each their own.
how many hours do you put on a top end before replacing it
Most guys will do it at 50 hours for racing and 100 hours for enduro. The whole engine at 200 hours seems to be about adequate for big bores
What is the horsepower output..can't find it anywhere 😕
motocrossactionmag.com/ask-the-mxperts-the-x-factor-versus-the-non-x-factor/
Thanks...I'm thinking of buying one. Years ago I had a it465. I rode it on and off road .I had the highest gearing possible. Going by memory 15 or 16 on the front and as small as it would go on the back wheel. It would cruise along at 120 kph all day long and easily go 160 kph but the front mud gard would bend over. I'm wondering if yz would handle higher gearing!!!!!!!