we RIPPED out our SAILBOAT’S ELECTRIC MOTOR for THIS!
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A guy said to me the other day, "Ya know, that Beau fellow isn't nearly dumb as he looks." Beau proved that again with this motor / shaft problem. I'm always impressed when he digs into a problem and fixes it. Way to go Beau!! Great show to both of you. 😁
I hope to grow up to be just like Beau one day. If you make a mistake, grow from it. Make better choices. Beau is cool.
When I had the same problem with the key, I used a "step key." A step key is one size on 1/2 of it and another size for the other half. That cost me about $8 at the local hardware store. Also, when I mounted the mounting plate (also from Thunderstruck), I mounted it directly to the old stringers. Motor mounts are to prevent the vibration of the engine from transferring to the rest of the boat, but the electric motor doesn't vibrate like a diesel engine. One tip I'll give you is to make sure things are coated to prevent rust.
Thanks for the tips Jeff. will have to look for that step key, just so we have it for the future!
@@BeauAndBrandy If you filed it out already, you should no longer need a step key, but just keep it in mind if you do something similar in the future.
I didn't know about step keys either. No need for one at the moment but good to know!
@@BeauAndBrandy When in machine shop class I made a threaded step shaft of different diameters and threads , never occured to me about a step key..why not..good one!
I love your patient persistence! You have such a great attitude in the face of these daunting projects.
👏👏👏 That was fun to watch! Can't wait to see what more boat work you have in store! 😜
oh there will be plenty hahaha. 😜
I installed a TS 10kW motor early last year. It is the best decision I made. You made it look easy.
NICE! some cutting out of certain words may have happened lol.
I hope to never swap out my Yanmar!
@@BeauAndBrandy lol…the top secret motors were out of stock so I settled for thunder struck
@@thinkcasting3182 my Yanmar actually worked fine. I went electric mostly because of sound and smell of diesel.
Well Done Beau you done a good job there.
Great project shots.
Being a master handyman I sometimes have my doubts but kudos to you Beau, you always come through
I'm happy to see you guys under power if you need it! Well done on the design and install.
Your numbers are doing great and no wonder with the quality we are getting ... Congratulations on your 50K subs!! ... As for Beau and his engineering skills He is the main man !! Stay Safe & Fair Winds!!
Beau!!!! You inspire me every time you take on a project! Youre like a master fiberglasser now. You always stick with it, never giving up hope. And finally ! Victory!
I hate to brag, but I sure am a happy gal at all the hard work he has accomplished on Saoirse.
Great !!!! Good job, Beau
Beau amazes me when he gets around a problem for little to no moolah and it works✌️💜 total respect!!
He is pretty clever, always impressing with his skills! (and his cuteness) 😍
Great job as always!
Thanks so much 🤗
Nice work crew!
Way to go guys. Great Job.
Thanks so much guys!
Great job guys👍 Beau gets the full 💯 for immovable tenacity and calm methodical approach. Many would not have the substance nor patience to arrive at success on their own like this.✨
I don't think you could have nailed a description of Beau more accurately! Thank you for such a kind comment - brandy ✌
I’m impressed Beau. Good job.
me too!! ALWAYS 😍
Great job! Four hours to remove one part, wow-stubborn! Looking forward to see how she runs!
Great job!!!!!!!
I was a heavy truck mechanic since 1980, always love the repair videos..your skills are impressive love you guys!
Thanks so much James!
Congrats on the 50k subscribers!
Great to see things moving forward. Keep the eyes on the prize.
YES!!!
Great work guys!
Thanks so much!
Yay Beau you can rig it!!!
Beau gets 💯 for "right as rain" and the little dance.
Two ways to deal with the key-way and sometimes putting a step in the key is easier since its usually milder steel than the coupling.
On the electric drive I have concerns with these kits that use an open frame motor so low in the bilge that will get salt water corrosion inside them increasing the chance of failure. That cogged belt can sling an awful lot of water from the bilge into the exposed windings of that open motor increasing your chances of total failure when you might need it the most.
Elco uses totally enclosed motors and has been making electric inboards since 1893 with a good number of their original units still in operation today 130 years later. Their other division, General Dynamics, is well know for the electric propulsion systems they've been making over the past 100 years or so for submarines. Cost-wise both systems appear to be close pretty close and with the Elco you get a TEFC marine grade epoxy coated motor that spins the correct RPM without having to use a belt that can fail at the most inopportune time.
Best!
🤣think about using some Loctite on the screws, but if you ever have to remove any you have to warm them up to 500 degrees with a blow torch ... glad you got the motor running ... I miss the little bird that hitchhiked a ride from you 🤣😂🤣
🛠 Way to go Beau!
He sure does nice work! his office is pretty sweet lol.
Well done! And yes, Harbor Freight and Total Boat often offer just what you need when working on old boats. I look forward to seeing your Thunderstruck motor in action.
Nice install!! And you did the hole job without swearing😂
We run into the key way issue with agriculture PTO shafts. We take our key way and machine one side to fit the smaller slot in the gear. And field repairs we use your grinder with cutting wheel to work the key. Much more abuse then your putting on it. Just a thought if you run into a similar issue in the future.
FYI wd 40 ok. Blaster best. When the gear puller nut is tight tap it with a hammer. The sudden jar makes it release. Nylon lock nuts way better than lock washer. Or use loctite vibration bad. ❤ nice work
Thanks for these tips dave!! always appreciated!
Nice episode. Cheers on your functioning motor.
Happy Sparky is BACK in action.
Great job
Nice video guys! I did the Thunderstruck 10kw with reducer conversion on my C&C 32 last year and you hit many of the same snags. Mine is working great and will hopefully stay that way. Keep up the good work!
Hi Patrick- I’m reworking a bad alignment on my C&C 33 Mk1 - any chance I could DM you with questions on disconnecting the bike chain thingie?
@@garyseven777 Gary, I just pop the master link clip off with a small screwdriver and slide the link off of the chain. If there's a way to do it safely send me your contact info - I'd be happy to chat.
I have an 18kw 96v setup from ThunderStruck with the reducer. Works great. Make sure those bolts are tight on the flexible shaft coupler or you may find your shaft trying to go for a walk when you go hard in reverse.
Beau is a riot!!! Funny man
😝 he keeps me laughing for sure.
Best with the Sea Trial on your new install.
Right as rain is a British saying. Probably linked to rain because that is what it mostly does in the uk.
ahhhh.
Well done Y'all.
Thanks Gibb!
Oh the new mount set up looks good, ready to roll
YES!! time to get a move on!
My man you are awesome professional
That's going to be nice. Looks good✌️
Ingenuity! Great work!!!!!
Thank you! Cheers!
Hit the end of the puller with a good sized hamer when under tension. Also with belt reduction and a bigger prop for regeneration
Well done.
Beau you're getting pretty good with the fiberglass!
after about 1,398 hours under the ole fiberglassed belt lol.
Nice job guys, this set up looks nice and clean/simple.
I'm hoping you did apply some locktite red on all the threaded fasteners. It still has some subtle vibration you cant see, the loctite will lock the fasteners until you need to disassemble
Good Job
Sorry, can’t take it anymore. It’s RPM, revolutions per minute. Not RPMs, Revolution per minutes. Love your channel. You both do a great job. Keep up the good work.
Beau, you are ROCKING the yellow safety glasses
safety is beaus middle name as we all know hehehe.
Yee Haw
got that thing going
Great news for going forward
Timely video- I am on my boat now and tomorrow I have to realign my Thunderstruck Reduction shaft because the PO did not sailing it right. So same, same… wish I saw more how you connect those bike chains cause the first thing I’ve got to do is take that apart 😅😂. Good video- love me Brandi and Beau!!!Sailing!!!
feel free to shoot us an email if you need help :) beauandbrandy at gmail
Good Job! You are living the future now. You do know there will be a time when the batteries, motors and solar panels will be much more efficient, and you will never need to stop for fuel as you circumnavigate. I've been watching you for a long time and am enjoying the voyage. Let me know if your electric motor fails prior to your friend's diesel. LOL. I'm looking forward to your future travels.
Broaching tool and a press
Very good video! I’m in the same process! Thanks 🙏🏻
GOOD LUCK!!
Your new mount should hold up well. A couple of tips that might be useful 1) for areas of high exposure to water (bilge) and that have any penetrations (fasteners), it is worth considering G10 or similar material as a choice over plywood for an encapsulated substrate, and 2) sometimes when grinding or cutting fiberglass or similar material it is easier and safer to keep it wet and clean up the slurry, than to deal with the dust. Cheers
Right as rain. ☔️
If you say that someone is as right as rain, you mean that they are completely well or healthy again.
Given the phrase originated in England, it's tempting to think it's a pun on the fact that rain is commonplace. While the sun might come out for a while, things eventually return to the normal rainy state in England. In other words, it returns to being right as rain.
Always amazed at you guys’ patience and perseverance through the process. I think my video channel would be a bunch of throwing tools and cussing a lot.
bwhahaha. movie magic lol
woohooo!
When the motor started, I was yelling "It's ALIVE!!!"
That mount is quite expensive for what it is unless you have the tools to make it yourself, personally I might consider a reducer (gear) instead, might be quieter too. Just a thought!
Hey, Beau - Thunderstruck's reducer has worked great on my 32' wooden cutter-rigged sloop for the last 7 years. Talk to Thunderstruck about a sprocket-to-sprocket adapter on the shaft. Piece of cake, dude!
thanks for the tip!
@@BeauAndBrandy My prop-shaft is 7/8", the reducer shaft is 1" - Thunderstruck got me 1 x 7/8" sprocket + 1 x 1" sprocket - the two have different I.D.'s but same O.D. (and number of teeth) - so the coupling is perfect . . . .
you two are the best. I just love watching you figure stuff out. I too have an inexpensive 30’ craigslist sailboat that I’m fixing up and sailing the san fran bay. I always look forward to your weekly videos. I agree with one of the other commenters, put an outboard bracket on the transom and hang a little 9.9 hp outboard on there just in case something goes wrong with the electric. The peace of mind is worth it. I put one on mine when the original motor was not working and I’ve decided to keep it just because of that. it’s always nice to have a back up
best of luck fixing her up! bc of Saoirse size, weight and the big over hang off the transom it would be pretty difficult to put an outboard on her. we find it unnecessary bc the electric has never failed us, the transmission coupler on the other hand haha.
Thank the stars it actually appears to be working. Taking it out on the water a, that will be the test.
hi you!!!!
We get new keyways cut all the time usually within a few minutes and very inexpensive. Don't know what's up with the machine shops around there. Anyway, nice job. Much love ya'll.
Broaches are not super expensive and you can order one from say msc and have it in a few days. The broach is the width of the key and a sleeve is also needed that is the diameter of the hole of the pulley. Once you have both in hand ideally you use a press to push it through but I have seen them tapped through with a hammer or a makeshift press improvised with a tight space and a lever of some sort.
Keys also come in different sizes and even in 2 sizes - one for the shaft and one for the pulley with a little step there on the split line.
Spending a little time with a file also works well as you found.
yes, by the time we ordered the broach and such we decided the filing was the best route, we were on a little of a time schedule.
I'm honestly amazed you didn't have to cut that flange off. I broke 2 pullers before I gave up and cut mine off.
it was PRETTY close to happening LOL.
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That was a highly sophisticated stress test on the new fiberglass mounts. 😂
lolololol nothing but the best over here on Saoirse!
You are both either naive or really brave; sailing out of Guatamala and into the little anchorage in Fla. with no motor! Then again, you have tackled and endured some major challenges including a hole in your hull while sailing, loosing the autopilot, and almost running out of food while at sea! You must eat your courage beans for breakfast and smart pills for snacks. BTW I noticed a sailor helping with the repairs on SV Delos recently wearing one of your B&B T-shirts!!
we always say you kinda have to be a touch of crazy and brave to do this sailing thing full time. If we didn't throw the towel in after that crack in the hull, a little thing like not having an engine isn't gonna stop us lol. Thanks for being here to support the shenanigans Herman!
get a Ashwoods Axial Flux Motor......and those key ways are broached, so if it was hardened afterwards, moding it might cost more than getting the right one.
I wish you had posted this before filing. I have a small shaper that would have made quick work of that.
believe me it would be nice, bc we get LOADS of helpful info after the fact sometime. lol.
Wow, quite a reduction... almost looks like you could stop it with your bare hands.. the load test will be the real test..
I was kinda yelling at my phone,,, put a good, square edge file in that keyway slot... Great minds think alike..
Tip.. make sure you get a toothpick with dielectric grease on those connections.. and heatshrink everything.. you will be in some pretty harsh, (salt moisture) environment..
Great job my friend, proud of you.. 🎉
Thanks so much Kevin. We didn’t show it in the vid, but it’s all heat shrinked and dielectric-ed 😁
Also, in the hanger, we use, those gloves too. In this humidity, keep some baby powder around.. makes it a whole lot easier to get them tight to the fingers..
Very good idea to back off on belt tightness. I would think the bearings in the motor have a tiny bet of play allowing magnets touch and all current was lost. You might be thinking front and rear bearing for motor future replacement. Just saying...
😃👍👍👍❤ great work to you both
Thanks so much Thomas!
Looks great! How are the Volt batteries holding up? Are you thinking about a different prop or are the rpm similar to the old trans?
whoops missed episode 216
Just think. No toe damage, cuts on the skull, or missing limbs. Your getting better Beau. 🤺🤺😁👍👍🍺🍺 Great job you two.
Man, I would hate my mistakes to be documented. I fell down 3-4 steps the other day with a coffee cup, cracked myself in the head. Would hate for that move to be readily available on the internet😀
oh no!! hope you made it through ok! beau said a little duct tape and it'll be fine
just when we thought we were through the clear, I found a cut on the bottom of his foot! haha.
I’m extremely allergic to chronically underpowered propulsion systems in Sailboats after Crewing on such boats that got stuck in some petty serious situations it was impossible to Sail or Motor Out of. Luckily dropping anchor and waiting for high Tide Slack Water got us out of Really deep Doodoo, and no Storm was incoming while we waited it out. My Next Sailboat, a 44ft comes as standard with an 80hp inboard Diesel for very good reasons, and my 10ft Tender will have a 6hp four stroke outboard for the same Safety Reasons . At Sea, even close to Shore, Conditions can get really nasty and not as forecast way faster than most people seem to realise from Calm as a Millpond to Oh Shit Now What do we do. 🤔
Where on your boat do you keep all those power tools? I was enthralled when battery-powered drills came on the market .bought o e for my boat .
Well hello there looks like you are having fun with the motor refit. One piece of information that most people don't realize and that is WD-40 isn't a lubricant. It's a cleaner. I would have used it to clean the shaft but what you really needed was a penitration lubricant like liquid wrench. But if you don't have any than yes its better than nothing. Liquid wrench will lubricate and penetrate the rust and what ever developed on there. Just spray it on drink a beer and after about 15 minutes it should be loose. If not smack it with a hammer than spray some more and drink another beer than it should come loose real easy. Beets 4 hours and alot of elbow grease. So I recommend keeping that on board. Just a little heads up.
Great job with the motor. Myself I'm not a big fan of switching to electric. But I understand the whole save the world and solar power and no buying diesel. But my thoughts are diesel generates power plus and this is the big factor, when the electric runs out is usually when you need it most. But I do understand that electric motor is much more cheaper than a new diesel motor. But anyways great job. And yes you did a fine job of the fiberglass. Well see you next week. Oh yeah, I bet that was great fun filing that gear for the key way! Okay have a beer and celebrate.
Now all you need to do is put a outboard motor mount on the back of the boat just in case you have a motor failure again you can use the outboard to get you in and out OK
This was not a motor failure, but a transmission coupler failure, which could happen to our diesel engine friends. don't see any outboards hanging off their boats, so not sure why we would need one on ours. ✌💜
Because range, range man, range.
Nothing to do with it.
"Oh...where's your magic wand that fixes every frickin thing?" You are a goober!!
Nice Work, better buy 3 or 4 extra belts though😄😃😀
I think you will get more out of the motor as rlthe transmission was moving parts + friction wich = drain of torque. 👍
Great you're staying with electric. I have all my components, but can't get my motor (14KW) working with Kelly controller :(
Love you guys.
nice
Sweet! Now will the boat be faster or slower? How long will it run? What's the new range? Anticipating your sea trials.
What kind of difference would a liquid-cooled motor make?
all great questions John!! We will be addressing some of those in the next couple of videos!
Corrosion and Electrical
If you have any corrosion on any electrical connections
Simply spray all connections with ‘Lanolin’
Here in Australia our go to lanolin is ‘Lanotec’
It is brilliant on all electrical connection and seals them from the atmosphere
It will prevent shorts and open circuits and also prevents RUST by sealing nuts bolts etc
Lanolin has strange but excellent properties when it comes to electrical.
We never had a dry or corroded joint after we started using lanotec on every connection ever again.
‘NOTE’ - DO NOT let it near Rubber Seals, Gaskets or O’Rings. It degenerates them
Also …. Do NOT use as a lube in winches or moving mechanical equipment…. NOT GOOD
We used Lanotec on our winches.
When the thinning agent in the spray lanolin evaporated off over a month or so, our winches all ceased up and we damaged one to the extent it was replaced.
Good luck and keep up the great Lifestyle you have carved out for yourselves.
Cheers Rosco
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How is the difference between transmission and the gear ⚙️
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Is that where you store The Gimp??
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Nice job Beau. I can not believe a machine shop did not have a set of broaches. What is the reduction ratio of that setup?
we couldn't either, called all the ones in the area. its a 2:1.
I think y’all did an awesome job. I’m gonna look into probiotics, I think I could benefit from it. Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it.
They ARE a really good product! Thanks for watchin"
Hi Guys .. What was the electric motor out of? Thanks
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