Same issue here. I get melted faster than I can melt the mobs with 270 base spell power. I am lacking all the two mitigation bits zg trinket and wrath ring though.
Bro ive tried this so many times, why cant I do this, im follow you exactly but I am dying, same def numbers as your quick gear - even through bubble im still dying I can do Armory full 1 pull fine, cathedral I die after 3-4 concs
It’s so fun and funny to see videos like these. Back in TBC retail I use to do this a ton on my Holy Pali but I never made videos of me farming instances, great times back then
Hey man, just discovered your channel as I'm reliving my old BE paladin again. These videos have been great and have really helped take some of the boredom out of leveling. Thank you! Subbed.
@arlaeus it’s good to note that in tbc ontop of all that prebis Paladins unlock a huge spell power boost for things like this in the form of destruction potions. They may not be needed but def speed up the kill phase!
Great video! Looking forward to your shaman video in ZF, made one of my own. It came from a couple old videos showing shamans doing ZF + my mage experience running it myself solo.
Any suggestions what to do if you don't surrvive the cath pull? I almost have the recommended gear, using force of will with zandalar and a SP back and neck instead of tanky ones. I can do it np with 0/38/13, but wanted to try this since it was so much faster. Also used Juicy Burgers for another 14 SP.
Im not gonna be able to do this before tbc hits, but do you think this will be possible at 70? I mean is the skullflame + armor necessary for the pull? (or will you find better replacements in TBC)?
Quick question, wouldnt the pre patch version of LIP rgive you its entire duration of no damage taken simply because it reduces melee damage taken by 120? Junst wondering if it would be itneresting to use as it would be active during 1/3 or half the tanking time of the kill phase.
Is this doable without Skullflame Shield? I am doing the pull perfectly and when the kill phase I get destroyed, I manage to get 3 concecrations out before dying and that includes bubble. The breastplate doesn't seem like it's enough. Wondering if it's worth investing in the shield which goes for 800ish gold on my server atm
@arlaeus How is Wrath of cenarius a 6 hour grind? Don't you need to be exalted with CC to get it, or did they remove that requirement from prepatch? Was looking around wasn't able to find anything so would appreciate to know before I start grinding XD. Thanks for making these awesome videos wish u the best of luck in tbc bro.
I’m having an issue with the kill phase, I don’t self heal enough and take way too much dmg. I am lacking mitigation gear pieces. Will this make much of a difference?
If you want to do bosses in cath you can two pull it and hit lockout easy with cath/arm. The reason for two pull is using reckoning to burn down both bosses inside cathedral. At least that's what I have been doing. Letting boostees decide if they want boss loot from cath or lib mobs =). It doesn't need much gear either
Is Skullflame and Demon Forge still needed when you're 70 and still planning to sell SM Boosts? Or Is SM boosts and any other boosts will be gone in TBC?
hey, I've watched a video showing a bug in tbc beta that the corpses is despawn in 2 minutes so that he can't loot all the loot. my question is, is that indicating that it will be like that in the future of TBC?
I'm so confused. I got the same spec. Full t2.5, SFS and so on but I just die at the kill phase in cath. The only thing I'm lacking is the Demon Forged Breastplate. Is that really the difference or am I overlooking something?
This is extremely gear dependent, if you don’t have almost all of the gear this won’t work at all. I have the chest, shield, 5 pieces of Judgment and I can’t do this pull or kill phase with out dying
This is still going to be translated over to TBC but yeah, if you are going to use this for the Classic forever servers then you need to be on point with the gearing. For TBC however, the main thing you would need is a trinket from shattered halls and the sporregar shield and rest of the gear can be basic dungeon tier gear. Pretty sure you can do this a lot of other ways aswell, just understanding how the stats work and what the mobs in the dungeon do is the key elements.
I've been boosting my friends shamans in SM last few days and we're gotten over 110k xp/hr. You can pull the entire Lib also btw, including last boss. Since some lib mobs evade, i pull the entire part you did on the way in, with also pulling the side rooms and one side of the rooms before the last boss, and the rest on the way out, spamming consecration rank 1 on cd for them not to evade. Should be quite alot more xp then just pulling the first part
With figurine, lichen guard and enough mitigation it will be possible to one pull stratholme skeletons side, it will take some time because packpedaling while having 100% hamstring uptime on you while bunch of mobs are going to hit your back is something to take seriously.
Where does the 300+ gold per hour come from? Could you speak more about how you actually make gold with these videos? From loot? From selling boosts? From herbs? Please
Soulforge Set is arguably more of a grind to get the Wrath of Cenarius and requires more grouped content, The few AQ20 spell power pieces is probably going to be easier to get than the Soulforge set imo. And the PVP gear is more of a guarantee if you're going to spell power plate.
It's interesting to me how you use a different methode how I do it yet with the same principle idea behind it. For example in Cat I don't pull any mobs but do kill the mobs in the starting coridor, then start by opening the door to the boss and pulling the boss first, then going back and gathering all the mobs the same way you did but in reverse from left to right, then I go into the kill phase on top of the waterfall in the left corner so they can't attack me in the back and if I mess up I can drop and heal if needed (very rare) often I just bubble when low health, concecrate, Hero charm and everything melts away, I kill leftover mobs and kill both whitemane and mograine (annoying rp event takes so damn long) As for Arms, early on I did the same thing you did with not aggroing the mobs to start with the boss and pull back, however I found the fastest way to do arms is to pull the mobs from the start, then reach boss room, bubble, open the door and heal if needed, then go all the way back and pick up some of the leftover mobs if that's the case, arms is the most easy of them all, it's great, I charge 14g per run for both arms + cat. Great video, also having 2 set tier 3 bonus gives 20 hp for judged of light on target, has lots of armor, mana regen, some SP, great to have in my opinion.
I've been doing this as deep holy and I pull all of Library starting at the boss, annoying part is some of the mobs reset. Holy shock heals are so good now.
You can also proc vengeance by any engineering and non engineering grenades Edit: Engineering nades also work with blade of eternal darkness and regen your mana
You could add Dragon Breath Chili and/or Immolation elixir to this setup and add a lot of damage to your kill phase. Reflect/thorns isn’t ever worth doing ever since TBC talents and coefficient changes.
I’ve been doing these runs 2 pulling cath and 1 pulling arm in a little over 10min. I used to 1 pull cath but I’m not as geared as u and would die like once every 10 pulls and it only saved like 1min vs never dying 2 pulling it. I think I save time vs u just immediately pulling the beginning mobs in each dungeon and not trying to kill them
I am wearing almost the same gear, 280sp. I've got t3 helm and different neck, cloak, ring & I don't have the scarab trinket. Aaaaand I can't do it. I die. :'( I can do it in 2 pulls. But I can not do it in one pull.
@@arlaeus9491 I leveled from 40-52 without the dynamite even. Just having a nice spirit set and some mp5 consumes will take you all the way. Excellent strategy.
@@OniJesse I get randomly obliterated sometimes and then sometimes I feel like my HP doesnt even dip below 50%. Spamming cleanse on myself to keep the Holy damage increase removed but the Holy Strikes that the Scarlet Champions still hit me for ~380 HP and I just don't even really know what to do to combat that.
Thank you all for watching! Come hang out on the stream - twitch.tv/arlaeus!
Ive been trying this and trying this, and it doesnt seem like either my demon forge or skull flame is healing me quite enough?
@@blainekoker-tatalovich3548 This is the same case for me.
Maybe we'll get a reply @Remedeez
Same issue here. I get melted faster than I can melt the mobs with 270 base spell power. I am lacking all the two mitigation bits zg trinket and wrath ring though.
Bro ive tried this so many times, why cant I do this, im follow you exactly but I am dying, same def numbers as your quick gear - even through bubble im still dying
I can do Armory full 1 pull fine, cathedral I die after 3-4 concs
It’s so fun and funny to see videos like these. Back in TBC retail I use to do this a ton on my Holy Pali but I never made videos of me farming instances, great times back then
Im leveling a holy pal, is it possible to do this with holy also???? Really?
@@egizela5022 yes it’s 100% possible specd holy I’ve been doing it for a few weeks now
The Hobbs way of pulling.
definite throwback vibes from Hobbs
hi guys hobbs here
Hey man, just discovered your channel as I'm reliving my old BE paladin again. These videos have been great and have really helped take some of the boredom out of leveling. Thank you! Subbed.
@arlaeus it’s good to note that in tbc ontop of all that prebis Paladins unlock a huge spell power boost for things like this in the form of destruction potions. They may not be needed but def speed up the kill phase!
Can you do a pre raid bis gear set for TBC for these runs please?
Thanks for this I needed a path to follow.
Great video! Looking forward to your shaman video in ZF, made one of my own. It came from a couple old videos showing shamans doing ZF + my mage experience running it myself solo.
Another good one, nice mate keep em coming
Paladin definitely going to be the new SM meta. That SP scaling will blow up at 70
For sure!
Thanks so much for this I’ve made a sizable amount of gold with this video! Appreciate it
Any suggestions what to do if you don't surrvive the cath pull? I almost have the recommended gear, using force of will with zandalar and a SP back and neck instead of tanky ones.
I can do it np with 0/38/13, but wanted to try this since it was so much faster.
Also used Juicy Burgers for another 14 SP.
Im not gonna be able to do this before tbc hits, but do you think this will be possible at 70? I mean is the skullflame + armor necessary for the pull? (or will you find better replacements in TBC)?
@Arlaeus, what addon do you use for the floating combat text?
do you think use the Force reactive disk will be faster?
Quick question, wouldnt the pre patch version of LIP rgive you its entire duration of no damage taken simply because it reduces melee damage taken by 120? Junst wondering if it would be itneresting to use as it would be active during 1/3 or half the tanking time of the kill phase.
phase 1 pre-bis gear for what aoe farming ? because the phase 1 pre-bis for tank sure as hell doesnt have 1k SP
Yea I'm pre bis and it's like 250
does zanza stack with pursuit of juistice? is it the same run speed? so i can put points somewhere else
Is this doable without Skullflame Shield? I am doing the pull perfectly and when the kill phase I get destroyed, I manage to get 3 concecrations out before dying and that includes bubble. The breastplate doesn't seem like it's enough. Wondering if it's worth investing in the shield which goes for 800ish gold on my server atm
does your zandalari hero charm trick work the same way for a mage if they flamestrike then pop the charm?
@arlaeus How is Wrath of cenarius a 6 hour grind? Don't you need to be exalted with CC to get it, or did they remove that requirement from prepatch? Was looking around wasn't able to find anything so would appreciate to know before I start grinding XD. Thanks for making these awesome videos wish u the best of luck in tbc bro.
I did it just recently and trust me its not 6 hours unless you have 1000's of gold to spend on rep items and random mats for logistics tasks
So where do you farm before you have the gold for all this expensive gear?
Mage boosting
so my problem is on killing phase my hp going down too fast my armor is 8k and other stats are fine expect spell power need 250 more what should i do?
This video is very helpful. Thanks boss. Greetings from Turkey
I’m having an issue with the kill phase, I don’t self heal enough and take way too much dmg. I am lacking mitigation gear pieces. Will this make much of a difference?
hey Arlaeus what scrolling battle text is that ? i had mik's but is currently broken
Great video as allways. What is The addon celled for scrolling combat text? Looks way better than miks i thini
Are you going to be using the Petrified Lichen Guard for TBC when doing these?
you can switch shields : DoTs last 15s
Great Video!
Would you mind telling which Combat Text Addon you are using?
this work in tbc too?and its guarantee 320 g per hr or its depend on ah price realms?
If you want to do bosses in cath you can two pull it and hit lockout easy with cath/arm. The reason for two pull is using reckoning to burn down both bosses inside cathedral. At least that's what I have been doing. Letting boostees decide if they want boss loot from cath or lib mobs =). It doesn't need much gear either
Thank you for the great guide!
Is Skullflame and Demon Forge still needed when you're 70 and still planning to sell SM Boosts? Or Is SM boosts and any other boosts will be gone in TBC?
No, they become useless as the procs fall off at 70, hard.
Hello Arlaeus !
What would be your most efficient route post 52 to level ?
Great video by the way. Love your content
Is there any other solo leveling boost that paladins can do after zf? Like solo zg or something
Yes, paladins can solo pretty everything but ubrs and lbrs, which they can solo but not boost without a geared healer and the know how
hey, I've watched a video showing a bug in tbc beta that the corpses is despawn in 2 minutes so that he can't loot all the loot.
my question is, is that indicating that it will be like that in the future of TBC?
I'm so confused. I got the same spec. Full t2.5, SFS and so on but I just die at the kill phase in cath. The only thing I'm lacking is the Demon Forged Breastplate. Is that really the difference or am I overlooking something?
I know this is super late, but yes 10000% that’s why
Yo arleus any chance you have a handy list of your addons? I really like the look of your game
This is extremely gear dependent, if you don’t have almost all of the gear this won’t work at all. I have the chest, shield, 5 pieces of Judgment and I can’t do this pull or kill phase with out dying
This is still going to be translated over to TBC but yeah, if you are going to use this for the Classic forever servers then you need to be on point with the gearing.
For TBC however, the main thing you would need is a trinket from shattered halls and the sporregar shield and rest of the gear can be basic dungeon tier gear. Pretty sure you can do this a lot of other ways aswell, just understanding how the stats work and what the mobs in the dungeon do is the key elements.
I've been boosting my friends shamans in SM last few days and we're gotten over 110k xp/hr. You can pull the entire Lib also btw, including last boss. Since some lib mobs evade, i pull the entire part you did on the way in, with also pulling the side rooms and one side of the rooms before the last boss, and the rest on the way out, spamming consecration rank 1 on cd for them not to evade. Should be quite alot more xp then just pulling the first part
how do you get TSM to show disenchant outcome? @ 12:25
What addon are you using that shows the damage/healing in the center?
Would this be possible without the damage boosts in ret tree? Currently running 0/38/13
Greetings from Serbia! Nice vid :D
Thank you!
Thank you wowhobbs, great video!
I'm think about making one for lvl 70. Do you have a 70 gear guide?
I don‘t quite understand how the gold comes together. I did 2 runs (1 armory, 1 library) and i got like 20 gold max
@Victor Cruz unfortunately this vid is a month already, so we probably won‘t get an answer..
what addon you use to display skill dame bro :D
With figurine, lichen guard and enough mitigation it will be possible to one pull stratholme skeletons side, it will take some time because packpedaling while having 100% hamstring uptime on you while bunch of mobs are going to hit your back is something to take seriously.
In TBC will you still use demonforge+skullflame?
in tbc i belive Tier gear and sporeguard its better
@@Frey_64 you miss out on so much free lifesteal, I took the safe option and picked up the skull flame.
Where does the 300+ gold per hour come from? Could you speak more about how you actually make gold with these videos? From loot? From selling boosts? From herbs? Please
Gotta be from boosting, but the video is a bit useless without him mentioning where the money comes from.
Hey Arlaeus, is this build viable for tanking dungeons too in TBC?
it sure is. holy shield is not needed. but not having avenger's shield makes pulling a nightmare. may want to have a hunter with you.
where did you get full gear for paladins?
Is this video made after the AoE cap or before?
always vitally important to know what's biss until wottlekay.
awesome work :) keep it coming
Thank you!
Do you not get instance locked on your second run?
Does Skullflame shield get replaced in TBC?
Sporegar rep shield
Is there any new way to get faster CC rep for the ring? Horde paladin wanting the ring but looks like you need exalted
Really nice pulls
What rank of consecrate are you using?
With ZHC, the Eye of the Dead trinket, and Wrath of Cenarius, my consecrate was doing 201 damage per tick... absolute insanity for these pulls
So, Demon Forged Breastplate still a think?
what is the best profession for the pally?
This still works post SFS and DF nerf right?
what are your buffs?
Why booster still save from banned , and for solo dungeon still got banned -_-
Soulforge Set is arguably more of a grind to get the Wrath of Cenarius and requires more grouped content, The few AQ20 spell power pieces is probably going to be easier to get than the Soulforge set imo. And the PVP gear is more of a guarantee if you're going to spell power plate.
If you spam sit when you are being hit it lets mobs crit you which triggers skullflame and sanc aura more
It's interesting to me how you use a different methode how I do it yet with the same principle idea behind it.
For example in Cat I don't pull any mobs but do kill the mobs in the starting coridor, then start by opening the door to the boss and pulling the boss first, then going back and gathering all the mobs the same way you did but in reverse from left to right, then I go into the kill phase on top of the waterfall in the left corner so they can't attack me in the back and if I mess up I can drop and heal if needed (very rare) often I just bubble when low health, concecrate, Hero charm and everything melts away, I kill leftover mobs and kill both whitemane and mograine (annoying rp event takes so damn long)
As for Arms, early on I did the same thing you did with not aggroing the mobs to start with the boss and pull back, however I found the fastest way to do arms is to pull the mobs from the start, then reach boss room, bubble, open the door and heal if needed, then go all the way back and pick up some of the leftover mobs if that's the case, arms is the most easy of them all, it's great, I charge 14g per run for both arms + cat.
Great video, also having 2 set tier 3 bonus gives 20 hp for judged of light on target, has lots of armor, mana regen, some SP, great to have in my opinion.
I've been doing this as deep holy and I pull all of Library starting at the boss, annoying part is some of the mobs reset. Holy shock heals are so good now.
Where does the gold come from as the boosting economy is dead since blizzard offers direct boosts.
always good content! Btw I'm leveling a mage with prepatch and i'm wondering what to do lvl 40; should I head to ZF or just aoe pull outside?
im wondering why the lvl 38 hammer
could u add in the easy throw dynamite?
How do you go about exalted cenarion circle in 6 hours?
Yeah that sounded like bs but even worse than exalted is earning 60 cenarian badges and killing four dukes. How is that doable in 6 hours?
Prob bought hand ins
You can also proc vengeance by any engineering and non engineering grenades
Edit: Engineering nades also work with blade of eternal darkness and regen your mana
@Pocahoetass i know im just giving a heads up for mage zg farming, mara farming, etc.
works a charm, thanks
Nice but strat is still better yes?
Hobbs figured out the perfect pull.
When TBC out Figurine of the Colossus is gonna be the go to trinket free full heal pretty much
You could add Dragon Breath Chili and/or Immolation elixir to this setup and add a lot of damage to your kill phase.
Reflect/thorns isn’t ever worth doing ever since TBC talents and coefficient changes.
I’ve been doing these runs 2 pulling cath and 1 pulling arm in a little over 10min. I used to 1 pull cath but I’m not as geared as u and would die like once every 10 pulls and it only saved like 1min vs never dying 2 pulling it. I think I save time vs u just immediately pulling the beginning mobs in each dungeon and not trying to kill them
How did you 2 pull it? First Courtyard and then inside Cath?
I didn’t think ZG trinket effected AoE, it doesn’t work on warlocks.
Do you think this is possible without Wrath of the Cenarius?
To be clear, I have basically equivalent gear EXCEPT wrath of cenarius
Yup! It's just helpful!
I don't have the ring yet as well and I do these runs all the time, it's great go for it.
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I do not see your 320g/Hr. I would say it's more 100g/Hour max as I was boosting myself there.
I have tried this like 4 times now and every time I get into the kill zone (facing the mobs) I die incredibly fast.
I'm having the same issue
It's better to use superior wizard oil than brilliant, you get more sp but no spellcrit which u really dont need. They are also way cheaper.
I am wearing almost the same gear, 280sp. I've got t3 helm and different neck, cloak, ring & I don't have the scarab trinket.
Aaaaand I can't do it. I die. :'( I can do it in 2 pulls. But I can not do it in one pull.
same, I just do 2 pulls and skip lib, boosties don't seem to mind.
can u solo zf as a pala 40-44 without engineering?
Yup! Ez-throw dynamite 2
@@arlaeus9491 I leveled from 40-52 without the dynamite even. Just having a nice spirit set and some mp5 consumes will take you all the way. Excellent strategy.
I am in t3 and I don't understand how to live during the kill phase, I just melt in 3 seconds.
skullflame + demon forged breastplate, makes a huge difference
@@PuntMirror I am using both
@@OniJesse I get randomly obliterated sometimes and then sometimes I feel like my HP doesnt even dip below 50%. Spamming cleanse on myself to keep the Holy damage increase removed but the Holy Strikes that the Scarlet Champions still hit me for ~380 HP and I just don't even really know what to do to combat that.
this is insane! pally over mage now
Greetings from Sweden! :)
Hello Sweden!
wtf according to literally every guide TBC phase 1 pre-bis has only around 200-300 SP not 1k
Would love to see strat UD solo/duo mage farm post AOE cap!
1k spelldmg pre bis t4?? wtf u talkin about
OGH Squad
i died 3 times in a row at the kath pull from 100-0 in like 2 seconds.. this cant be just rng..
Hold up, this ain't Wowhobbs...