James Tour: The Mystery of the Origin of Life
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- Опубликовано: 17 мар 2019
- UPDATE: This lecture has obviously hit a nerve. For Prof. Tour's response to his critics, see www.jmtour.com/wp-content/uplo.... Tour in his response apologizes for using the word "lying" with regard to Jack Szostak, but he goes on to explain in detail why his substantive criticisms of Szostak's article were correct. To read the criticisms leveled at Tour, see stonesnbones.blogspot.com/201....
Dr. Tour is one of the world’s top synthetic organic chemists. He has authored 680 scientific publications and holds more than 120 patents (here is a partial list). In 2014, Thomson Reuters named him one of “The World’s Most Influential Scientific Minds,” and in 2018 Clarivate Analytics recognized him as one of the world’s most highly cited researchers. Tour is also fearless. He joined more than a thousand other scientists in signing the “Scientific Dissent from Darwinism.” More recently, he has become a thorn in the side of the origin of life research community, offering blunt assessments of the current state of origin of life research. Read more on this controversy here: evolutionnews.org/2019/05/pro...
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27:37 "aminoacids don't hook together by themselves"
This bit is the real kicker for me
Despite my years of reading on this subject, I always had the impression that things will hook up if they bump into each other, and the design arguments mostly revolve around the improbability of such hook-ups happening in the necessary sequence.
The idea that nucleotides have to be *forced* to hook up is quite an eye opener.
It's like spending hours debating whether or not pigs can fly based on weight and aerodynamics and such, and then somebody saying "You know pigs don't have wings, right?"
@@jarrod752 Chemicals don't all respond to a similar input. Some chemicals bond under different temperatures, and you would need extreme contrasts to get the right sequence of events to build all the necessary molecules, and then to come together in one place, to order in the correct sequence without a single error (we're talking about many thousands of molecules that would just as willingly bond to the wrong thing at the wrong time indiscriminately or polymerize. And even IF you get some parts to form correctly through either human intervention or currently unknown natural processes, the cell doesn't just form complex information in DNA or with carbohydrates naturally in any sense. DNA, left to natural law would be a consistent order like ABAB or ABCABC. But no, DNA is A-symmetrical data and the problem of carbohydrates which have over a trillion ways to form indiscriminately, if one carbohydrate is wrong, the cell dies. Don't forget that the first hypothetical proto-cell has no enzymes to check itself for correct formation because it has never formed before. The cell would need to be completely formed and have all the information established before systems could be made to check and verify said information in the cell. Your comment reads of a person who has a magical perception of how science actually works. The "10 to the 79 billionth power" number for the complexity for interactomes in the cell is no joke. Scientists don't know how the first cell formed. It's untested, unverified speculation, and so far, our best technology, cleanest prepared chemicals, and smartest chemists have not managed to do more than forcibly produce individual molecular structures that are generally function-less on their own and don't resemble life. Also, you may want to check James Tour's credentials before you assume he doesn't know anything. The man is cited by more scientists in his respective field than Stephen Hawking in his respective field. He is one of the top scientific minds in modern chemistry.
@@jarrod752 are you a synthetic chemist? Do you think you know more about these chemical reactions than Dr Tour? You are wrong. These chemicals do not "combine rather easily." Actually they break down easily and are difficult to get to join together. The peptide bond joining 2 amino acids is a reversible reaction, and the reaction tends to break down thousands to millions of times faster than they form. The only way these bonds form in living cells is because of very complex enzymes.
@@jarrod752 Do you have an example? Or are you just making a blatant assertion based on your world view? You do understand that the sun would probably destroy any unlikely probably of this happening from the start right? Oxygen, water..... I think you imagine nonsense. Oh and btw.... entropy is your worst enemy in all of this....just saying.
what did jarrod say
I am a former athiest. Before this guys appeared on social media and before i heard them. I already left athiesm. The universe is too much to be mediocre. Its infinity and craftiness immanates perpetual prescence of a creator.
Your wonder is lovely but not proof of creation….
I'm a former atheist, too.
"The universe is too much to be mediocre." Who sais it's mediocre?
"I am a former athiest." What convinced you other wise?
"Before this guys appeared on social media" The demonstrable liar Tour did what exactly that appealed to you?
You probably have no idea how your microwave works, yet you know how the universe works.
Dude, your comment made my day. Thank you.
" I am going to just allow science to critique science" Brilliant Mr. Tour.
Knowledge is one thing, but to present it with indignation, fire, zeal and fearlessness for truth, that’s a quality very few humans posses.
Disbelief in an intelligent Creator has almost nothing to do with the mind but rather with the heart and one's willingness to be convicted.
The heart pumbs blood....It is the mind that rejects the notion od some ill-defined deity, which appparently is not subject to the known laws of physics, that supposingly interacts with the fabric of our reality in ways that have thus far eluded every controlled experiment ever performed in the history of science.
You would dismiss the existence on anything on such grounds too...yet you make an exeption for the one God you believe in...why?
"Some stages in this process are still not well understood" Yet, it is taught as fact!
Back in my early IT days (around 1980) there was a phrase that was used often. "I understand you in principle." When communicating with another programmer/hardware tech, it was common to reach a point in their explanation of something where that statement was appropriate. Basically, it meant that you were able to follow what they were saying, in general, without being able to grasp all the finer points of the concept.
What a joy it was to watch this presentation! Mr. Tour does an amazing job of keeping things at a level that a layman like me can grasp "in principle."
"Molecules have no brain, they don't know where they're going!" ....love this guy......
What he's saying is exactly what I argued with my college instructor about...
As an exercise, my Brother-in-law who was a high school science teacher once told me, "When reading a scientific article or journal take out a high lighter and highlight every 'non factual' statement. "scientists theorize that", Some scientists believe" etc it's amazing when you're done. There isn't a lot of content left.
I just did the test and it was all factual and substantiated. Perhaps you should take your advice from someone who actually publishes scientific papers and you might look less ignorant.
@@ignatiusfrups68, you mean every scientific article in existence? Or one self-picked article?
Dr. Tour should be awarded Nobel prize for pointing out all the falsehood in the research of Origin of Life.
Proving the status quo wrong would do the trick...
All he has to do is put is critizism into a scientific paper, have it peer reviewd and publishrd and here we go...well, that would be it if: His climd had any merit and if he did actually publish.
What are they doing instead? He does the rounds of fundamentalist church groups, right wing talk radio, publish in church magazines and show up on and jesus-tv shows.
"I am going after the people that do not read the scientific literature…..It's hard to publish my critiques because of peer review" -An actual thing that James Tour said without irony
He knows his claims are bogus and he knows he can't pass the peer review pocess...because his claims are bogus. HE also knows that his scientifically illiterate flock does not care.
@@Robert-ct6bcAre you suggesting the origin of life research isn't deceptive? Are you suggesting that forming molecules under a prebiotic condition and using said molecules has been done? Are you suggesting that all of the steps happening within a very short time evading decay in one microscopic spot has been demonstrated in the lab?
What exactly is James saying that is bogus? If you repeat anything Dave Farina says I will not acknowledge it, because Dave has been busted from multiple angles on multiple topics as a dishonest liar who mischaracterises the research to his own liking.
I'm going to need someone who's not a complete twit that has some real merit to debunk James' claims. Genuinely and honestly asking here.
This was an excellent lecture.
It reminds me of a passage in Ecclesiastes.
Ecclesiastes 8:17 (KJV)
"Then I beheld all the work of God, that a man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun: because though a man labour to seek it out, yet he shall not find it; yea further; though a wise man think to know it, yet shall he not be able to find it."
Baffling. You quote a two or three thousand year old passage, and can't see how far science has taken us. How sad..
"Of the simplest machines, a toothpick has no moving parts. The only way to make it is by machines and engineering. Given every tree on the planet and infinite time, evolution could never make a toothpick. The only thing "evolution" can do is rot the wood." Dr. Joseph Mastropaolo
As a Christian and synthetic organic chemistry, I loved this.
Real scientist talking actual science. I'm so happy I'm literally getting misty.. .
People should share this on all social media help this go viral‼️
Dr tour wanted to be a state trooper in Ny. Thank goodness he didn't because the world would've missed out on, not only a genius, but a genius who believes in GOD and shows us just how impossible evolution would have been. He's a believer who is so smart he could stand up for us christians on this incredible complex subject against anyone.
You don't have to be a scientist to know those articles are bunk. Just count the number of 'could's and 'maybe's. If more than one, it's not scientific. As an engineer, I would be fired if I had those words in a paper.
You forgot Sagans favourites... "emerged", "appeared" and the bestie... "burst onto the scene"..lol
Dr. John Lennox and me have a high opinion of Prof. Tour's thinking, knowledge and lines of argument.
Nice to see you here!
@@mysteryteacher9 was thinking the same thing!
What is your take on Tours understanding of evolutionary theory?
This lecture is a waste of time. The evolution of life is well discussed on The Entire History of Earth.
Saddest part of this is after 1 year this have almost 600K views only
How come this didnt go beyond viral !!!
Because is a bias...
From another Ph.D. chemist, Dr. Tour is right on! Facts trump Opinion.
@kenfunk1755 "From another Ph.D. chemist, Dr. Tour is right on! Facts trump Opinion." What a pity , then that he needed to end on an invocation to the christian bible!
Prof. Tour mentioned Nobel Laureate Jack Szostak and his Origin-of-Life research ...
let me add to that.... look how modern science is done ...
RetractionWatch.com, from 2017:
”Definitely embarrassing:” Nobel Laureate retracts non-reproducible paper in Nature journal
"A Nobel Laureate has retracted a 2016 paper in Nature Chemistry that explored the origins of life on earth, after discovering the main conclusions were not correct. "
J. Szostak: "In retrospect, we were totally blinded by our belief [in our findings]…we were not as careful or rigorous as we should have been (and as Tivoli was) in interpreting these experiments."
Full article:
retractionwatch.com/2017/12/05/definitely-embarrassing-nobel-laureate-retracts-non-reproducible-paper-nature-journal/
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One of the best talks I have ever heard. The thing I got out of it the very most is that Jesus loves us so very much and is very much in control. We just need to follow Him. And also true science is all about God. I love science. Bless us Jesus
We love God, we love our creator. Jesus can not be god because he is human and born. God is eternal and above human limitations. But Jesus is respected prophet with miracles given to him by god. Quran gives clear and convincing explanation
@@marmooshkhalil6870the issue with your statement is that the Quran was written 600 years after Jesus death.
Why do you ignore the accounts written within 60 years of his death?
"Molecules don't care about life." --- my favorite quote
The universe does not either.
"molecules don't care about life...you have to have non-regular patterns in order to have complexity for living systems"
We are truly fearfully and wonderfully made! My great God!
What a blessing you are, brother James! We're still scratching our heads, trying to figure out the things that can be measured and weighed in our physical environment. Do we dare to delve into the supernatural, where our Father abides, the unseen realm? What an Awesome Father we have... "Our Father, Who art is heaven."
@endtimeawakening5557 "What a blessing you are, brother James! We're still scratching our heads, trying to figure out the things that can be measured and weighed in our physical environment. Do we dare to delve into the supernatural, where our Father abides, the unseen realm? What an Awesome Father we have... "Our Father, Who art is heaven." And there is the major flaw in this video - Tour repeated time and again "we don't know" and yet there you are with "we DO know" There is NO place in science for religion EXCEPT where you have a real need to reinforce your own belief. I can appreciate all Tour's views without the need to insist on a nebulous and unproven deity; I do not have the hubris to think that if there existed an incomprehensible "entity" I would know what its plan and thoughts are!
I would love for James tour to debate Bill Nye on stage! Most of the bill nyes debates seems to favor him because the opponent doesn’t have as much knowledge on the matter as James tour .
That would be like taking a sledgehammer to a flea.
With an undergraduate degree in biochemistry and as a board certified oral and maxillofacial surgeon (retired) I thought I could imagine the complexity of molecular biology and “life”. Wrong, Tome shows it is unimaginable. Confirms the bumper sticker that warns not to believe everything we think.
Very impressive, he doesn't need to debate anyone. This guy is really brilliant.
Just love the righteously defiant attitude and tone 😅 instant legend when I first heard him awhile ago ⚔️
You can see a HUGE change in his demeanor when he starts talking about the miracles in cells! It's evidently his real passion.
Really great talk!! I think Google is messing with my thumbs-up rating, though. I keep thumbing up, but when I scroll down, my rating is removed. So I'll rate here. 👍👍👍👍👍
One lady definitely enjoyed the talked and laghed louder than rest 😂😂. Great talk Doctor 👏👏
the first woman eva was the mother of oll living, so women definietly know what he is speaking for!
I wonder how Richard Dawkins would reply to this.
Even if all the proteins, lipids, connective tissues etc. necessary to form a simple cell were some how assembled, in the correct order...... you still need to make it live. Otherwise you only have a collection of organic components, without life. Forming a living cell is impossible without God !!! Excellent lecture 👍
Back in college, my biochemistry professor was explaining abiogenesis and stated "early amino acids recognized that it was beneficial for them to congregate..." Sheesh. ..
I'm only 5 minutes into this and he's blown my mind already.
How can you not love this guy. Absolute kryptonite to the likes of Dawkins and Krauss.
Only God puts brilliance like this in the mix to confound the "wise". Thank you James Tour, and thank you God!
What's worse is that this is not shown in the school! Both sides need to be shown for healthy thinking but only one side is shown, which is the darwinism.
Well done. This lecture should be required in high school.
oh man. the cell might be more complicaded than a large city
Some times I've been despondent. Strong in faith but wondering where was the joy, was there any in me ? Just poured out of me ! Smiled, belly laughed, wondered in awe. Best witnessing I ever heard.
One of my top 10 favorite Christian scientists ever!
Any thumbs down out there just proves that you don’t understand what he’s saying.
It is important to understand the complex process of life to lead us to a more logical belief in God.
How can anyone not respect this scientist for being so honest about the arrogance of some scientist who say what they want because they don't expect another scientist to criticize them.
This guy is a hero. I wish everyone who understood science on the side of truth would speak boldly as he does.
James "10^79 billion. That's a big big number." Tour
Dr. Tour takes the right approach. You don't start with Evolution, you start with how did life come from non-life. This stops the Humanist scientific establishment dead in their tracks.
19:30 - The system checking to see if something is correct is always more complex than the system it's checking... That's actually a really good point...
Encryption systems say hi
Love his dry humor. He should do this more often, hes really good at it.
Humour*
Excellent talk! I wish more ordinary folk watch these types of talks and discussed the contents with their children, especially those approaching college age. Nothing beats informed and enquiring minds challenging professors.
Dr. Tour is a Beast. Well done.
I would love to see Tour debate the self obsessed ego maniac that is called Richard Dawkins . Dawkins would be like a lamb to the slaughter
James words are so true so strong and so powerful this wonderful scientist is a heavenly light in the darkness and a great blessing.
36:44 - proto-turkeys - absolutely hilarious! I love this guy's humor and passion!
The proto-turkey metaphor is an understatement of the crazy theories being spread around.
I actually saw a post from an atheist who took this seriously as if Dr. Tour was. I told him to look up the term 'facetious.'
I never thought I would ever hear of such clear concise not to mention humorous Explanation of the narcissism and flagrant lies whether intentional or not within the scientific community. This was absolutely brilliant. Praise the Lord! This should be show to every woman considering an abortion proving just how majestic and precious life really is before they decide to callously end that life for such selfish reasons.
As a Christian and a conservation biologist, I loved this!
An old joke; a group of scientists presented themselves before the creator of the universe, stating we can now create life!
G-D responded, demonstrate please. the group then proceeded to prepare their materials.
G-D said wait get your own dirt!
WOW! This was the best lecture I have ever seen. Truly amazing and mind blowing content. Thank you and God bless you and your family.
I think terrible, he's starting from a cell.....
This talk must be studied in every Biology class.
One of the most interesting and engaging speakers and topics I've ever heard.
This man is a gem. May God bless him!
lool
Best talk and easiest to understand on this subject. I've known it's impossible to make it work but this guy explains it where anyone with a mind can easily understand why molecules to man can't ever work. The simple cell isn't simple at all but an extremely well engineered manufacturing plant.
This presentation needs to be the first presentation in any and every biology class from high school to doctorate degrees in every field.
This is the best thing I've seen in a very long time
Intelligent design is real. It's real science. Unfortunately, many believers of intelligent design aren't articulate. The believers of evolution are often articulate, but what they have is just a fairlytale and they are easily debunked. We need more people like Tour.
I am only eleven and this is veeeeeeeeerrrrry interesting
Stick with it. Everything in the world is going to try to get you not to believe this man.
Have a watch party with your friends 🎉
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Yeah but if you agree with Tour you get an F in science class.
Victoria, this man may be a nice person or good in his field, but he projects his expertise where he has none. There are some great teachers at Rice University, Tour isn't one of them, because he can't keep his faith out of the lab. He leads evidence to conclusions instead of looking where the evidence leads. Yes, the opposite of good science.
This video is a great example of "confident speech means nothing".
He believes abiogenesis is under some obligation to function under his narrow understanding. Well, it isn't and creationists still lap it up -.-
You can be a christian who is also a scientist, there are many doing great work, but if you meet a professed "christian scientist", what you get is a preacher fucking with science in God's name, it's obscene.
Rarely see that kind of passion, enthusiasm, and that level of logical consistency all in one. Loved this talk!
After listening professor Tour, I'm once again reading my textbook ' Moleculair biology of the cell' . The idea that all this complexity could be a product of blind and unguided processes make me laugh at every page.
Dr. Tour is brilliant, funny and absolutely destroys the materialist worldview in this talk. A must-see for any serious apologetics student. This video is great to use if you have a discussion/study group with unbelievers as well.
One of the best lectures and lecturers I've ever heard. Wow.
Thank you Dr. Tour, for opening my eyes. I always believe the scientists. Now I'll be more skeptical.
damn, i can spend my entire life just listening to Dr. Tour.❤
Outstanding! Let him that hath ears to hear listen.
I wish all the people currently home-schooling their kids during this panic-demic would show this to them.
This guy is an awesome speaker. He uses humor to make certain points and he explains things in a way that a layperson can understand it. I can listen to him speak for hours and never get bored
I'd like to see ol' Nye debate Tour. I think he'd be shredded.
Worth every minute invested in watching this.
What a wonderful time to be alive
This is the most honest talk I have ever heard on chemical evolution. So good!!!
Dr. Tour has the personality animations and a unique passion that is lacking in other voices in the intelligent design communities. He picks up where Dr. David Berlinski leaves us.
I love Dr Tour he is explaining it so that even I can understand, and I am not a chemist. ❤
As a Christian I just have to say thanks. Amazing lecture. Praise to God.
Seriously guys I want to see Dawkins&Krauss facial expressions right now !
This guy rocks !
They would never debate someone like Tour. They don’t want that look on their face so they keep their clown faces on. He does rock!
They would be laughing at him
Dawkings and Krauss always have a way to redirect their ignorance and lack of capacity to explain the origin of life to the "excitement" of learning from nature. To them "that's science". They will argue they are not afraid of not know how this happened because they are confident (have faith) they will figure it out. Sigh!
It looks like this... :|
(Unimpressed)
My kids are still in elementary school but I started teaching apologetics to them years ago. Apologetics is the vaccine against the crap that is Darwinian evolutionary theory. I am my kids pastor and it is my job to prepare them against the lies of this world. Because we started young with Bible teaching every night, they got saved young.
Spellbinding, awe inspiring, mind blowing. I worked with epigeneticists and systems biologists who were extremely deep in the reactome, and they agreed that this doesn't happen by chance! Oh and Richard Dawkins is delusional.
Dawkins is into the aliens thing. That really explains a lot, doesn't it? SMH
I love Dr. Tour's passion and level of knowledge. It takes someone like him, a brilliant scientist, to confront the agnostic know-it-alls in the science world with what the rest of us may have suspected but were afraid to articulate, that life cannot spontaneously order or design itself without having someone or something that is already alive as a source for that life and design.
This is terrific! Thank you, James Tour and DiscoveryNews for putting it up. Makes so much sense and exposes the garbage some scientists want us to buy. I like his boldness and holding to truth. The last 5 minutes alone are worth the video.
As a Muslim, I totally agree Mr Tour. Our scientists are the same opinion. Unfortunately some pseudo scientists are just copy and don't make any effort to understand. But not to forget that there are many professors on university are forced to not deny the evolution theory otherwise they will dismissed. So the best thing to do is to show them how wrong they are.
You are a wise and brave man, Dr. Tour.
"NUDGED ALONG" ......this will be my fav phrase for November .
"Nudged Along".......YOU CANT USE THAT WORD IN SCIENCE JOURNALS . .
Love u Dr. Tour u made faith for me rational and stronge❤
Does he ever do debates? I can’t imagine anyone wanting to take him on in a debate.
Ten to the 79 billion. Expecting that to occur takes some serious faith right there. More than I could ever mount. I will stick with God.
Tour's presentation is so awesome, it is timeless. So, I am hoping that this video will get more views and comments. 1,418 comments is NOT enough. There needs to be 1,418,000,000 comments!
Finally some push back to the secular dogma being presented as science
That woman’s distinctive laugh 😆 Who would have thought, a chemistry comedian!
Psalms 147:5 (KJB)
"Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite."
Ive been athiest for decades, used to be a memeber of an athiest group until they got me kicked out. I was banned.
These explains the small world that proves God. I explain the infinite world to prove God.
Thanks lord, my knowledge saved me from bigotry of athiesm. Mine is not just a faith, its a diction if our reality.
I am thankful to hear this guy. This broaden my knowledge