2021 Alfa Romeo Giulia QV Modified | Incredible Driving Transformation
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- 2021 Alfa Romeo Giulia QV Modified Incredible Driving Transformation
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I test drove 21 and decided to keep my 17 forever 😂 You just can't beat the "rawness" of the early models
the 21 out of the box was too luxury and SOFT the earlier cars are way louder and twitchy which I do like but i have to admit the improvements on the 21 rear end grip and confidence, and shock tuning how it mates to the kw st sport springs is magic. We will see how the Kw ddc kit works on my 18. Also the braking system on the 21 is so much better than the early cars that is one of the biggest complaints everyone including myself had over the years. I wish we could reprogram the IBS to feel like the 21 on our early cars but i doubt that is possible as it could be a hardware change they made as well to the unit.
Yeah I won’t be selling my 2017 model anytime soon. Especially since I’ve remapped it to now push out 604bhp. The performance is incredible, lots of low down torque and a serious pull at the top of the revs. It feels so raw and exciting. I’m also very glad I got the carbon ceramics, the stopping power is phenomenal.
@@domloz3130 you on pump gas or Ethanol? And what mods?
@@domloz3130 I am interested too on the mods.. going to keep my 2017 hopefully for life 🙃
@@domloz3130 where did you remap it?
Alfa Romeo since 1910, at this time the rest of european goes around on the horses😅
Thank you for this video
Ciao from Napoli
I love these cars, i own an Alfa Romeo and it's awesome man, it makes me smile every time when i have to drive it.
yeah these cars are so much fun and when modified just right they become even better
"When you HAVE TO drive it"🤔🤪
Hi Phil i have had the Goodyear F1 Supersports on my 21 QF now for about six weeks, im in the UK very wet and cold these tyres are really good, such an improvement over the standard tyres.They are Brilliant.
Thanks for sharing
Great posting. We ditch the Corsa tyres in England as well, no good in our cold wet climate!
yeah i almost lost it the other day its getting cold now in NY
2021 QV owner and I can’t imagine any aftermarket tuners doing a better job than the Alfa engineers in terms of suspension or handling for road use. Tyres do need changed / upgraded to Michelin rubber though!
how soft they made these cars in 2021 its a shame after these mods it brought the car back to the sweet spot I always raved about out of the box it was too Mercedes like. The earlier cars were also soft but not as soft as the 21.
@@autofanaticcars you guys might have better roads than I do here in Ireland! My F80 m3 competition was too firm for daily use here.
ha ha our roads are horrible but its all preference I had an F80 M3 i liked how stiff that car was compared to the Alfa I just did KW coilovers on my 2018 QV and its stiff like an F80 now which i like
I did the st springs and love it as well. I also chose to go with resonator delete and straight pipe on the stock center pipe. I got a OEM spare center pipe from a forum member. I wish you would try this as well. I think you will prefer it. The car almost sounds naturally aspirated when valves open but still quiet with valves closed.
I am going to fabricate one of those as I have several OEM resonator sections on hand. I just need time to do it.
Love everything you did except for tires. I have a 2019 QV and did similar mods, but everything was brought together with the P Zero PZ4.
the Michelins i feel have better steering response either way your smart taking the Corsa off for street use they are horrible and nothing but headaches. Way back in the 90s i loved the P Zero tires on the old M3 and 993's we built for customers they never lasted long but gripped amazing for their short life ha ha ha
@@autofanaticcars I did try the pilots and the grip is similar. A buddy tried the PZ4 last year and I was hooked with the very minimal road sound. He is not a track guy, but puts his Q/V through the paces and has 14,000 miles with a couple of thousand good miles left. Thanks for the response and video.
great video continue good work,alfa legend no equal
Great content Phil, was on that road yesterday….
how cool nice what color is your QV maybe il see you around one day
The 21’s have a ton of grip. Ours sticks the launch in Race mode every time on the street, but the earlier models definitely sound better
thanks for also sharing your experience with the 21 car they definitely revised the rear suspension just for that because my 18 was always sketchy. the older cars sound louder because of the limited interior sound proofing and the thinner glass in 2020 they revised lots of luxury changes across the range.
In Love from Napoli 🔥🌶️❤️
I love imola red 😍
Looooooove it. From an M guy. Love this to death!. Seriously debating grabbing a 21. Canceling my 23 M4 order. I don't like that they can't crack the ecu. And I legit love this so much
get the Alfa its more unique and has a way more special engine note and character you wont be disappointed and subscribe and watch some of my Alfa Romeo QV content on this channel it goes into lots of detail from mods to ownership and bad dealership service.
I'm up for that test ride haha im in bergen county right across the GW in NJ.
Fantastic car btw, definitely on my wish list to own some day. Love your channel youre like the guy I want to grow up to be.
Great content Phil appreciated all the way down here in Australia . Own a 18 model and considering the 2021 model as you did. Regardless it’s a great car , keep the updates coming along .
the one thing you need to decide is if you want the better built car the 21 is the way to go plus the 21 suspension with the lowering springs is superior to the earlier cars it just feels that much better.
@@autofanaticcars thanks for reply I think a test drive is in order . Keep up the content much appreciated
Great review as always.
Thanks again!
You should trademark the "Auto Fanatic setup"
yeah this set up for the street is just great overall. My ultimate goal for the 2018 is to make it even stiffer i hope the kw shocks are indeed firmer by a good margin.
You can get the Michelin PS4S in 285 now, I have them on my Quadrifoglio
good luck finding them now i have 4 sets on backorder for myself and customers since April from Tire Rack Wholesale now they are giving me an ETA end of October it keeps getting pushed back month after month, super annoying with the supply chain issues . I will be putting those on my 18 when i get my hands on them.
@@autofanaticcars my supplier had a few sets in stock, must have a good link at Michelin 😂.. they fit so much nicer than the 295 I was running last year
@J Williams can you email me your contact on the tires I would like to see if I can at least get 2 rears for my car i already have the fronts since April. Yes I tried thew 295 on my black car i did not like how they fit or looked the 285 is the right size for the OEM wheels.
How do they perform in the cold and wet? Ive got Pilot super sports on mine which are great but thinking I might get then 4S instead.
@Dom Loz in the cold and wet the 4S is awesome I did videos on this channel with my Shelby GT350 in 30 degree temps and in the rain and the tire just doesn't break loose. The rain performance is one of the 4s strong suits with hydro planing etc. the Super Sport is an awesome tire and I still use them just my advise do not drive reckless in the rain or below 50 degree regardless of tire on any car as you always run the risk of an accident,.
Good camera angle.
Original owner custom ordered 2017 ...factory spec...not modified...they were 1 inch lower than following years....rear would get loose if temps were low...that was a tire issue...CORSAS are full race spec summer tires...Michelin Pilot Sport S + are great all season daily drivers subs...solve the temp related rear end slipping out....also speced the Carbon Ceramic brakes...way better than steel and now you can't even get Carbon Ceramics...2017 WAS THE BEST YEAR !!
Try Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersports, comparable to Michelin ps4s but more readily available
Do you have the Goodyears on your QV by chance curios on feedback on those
@@autofanaticcars I do indeed, they are excellent. Better feel from the stiffer sidewalls and better wet rear traction
@@stephenlongfield8492 I agree I had them before switching back to Corsas for a few months. Getting the Goodyears F1 SS refitted later this week. The thicker side walls help and safer for the UK (except for winter).
@@stephenlongfield8492 Have them on my manual QV as well, excellent tires.
Yes i have them on my 21 QV Absolutly brilliant tyres,i reckon just as good as the Michelins ,and in the UK they are much cheaper than the Michelins.
Doesn't money make happy? I keep telling my friends. Even God. I told Him. Although the Bible says the love of money is a root of all evil. Don't want to hang my heart on it. But what it enables you to do.... Wow! Like this Alfa. If you had no munneh, you wouldn't know the joy of this special car.
Ok Getting a 21 over the older ones now
I truly wish I could afford a QV… being disabled sucks for income. Great video ,best QV content on RUclips. Thank you
Look into Forex trading mate
What’s your current alignment looking like with the coilovers on the 2021 QV?
Hey brother I just got a Alfa Romeo Giulia base model, I was wondering if I could get some advice I wanna upgrade the breaks and wheels first. But I’m kinda lost when it comes to upgrading it.
My 2018 QV is on the delivery truck on its way and the kw springs are being shipped. My question is, does the Alfa come factory with the ability to have the alignment changed or do I need to buy aftermarket parts for the alignment to happen?
you can change the alignment you just need to spend lots of time doing it. aftermarket parts do make it easier. once you get the springs in the car drive it to see how you like it, i think the shock tuning on the 18 cars could be better and it feels like a huge improvement with the shocks on the 21 model.
@@autofanaticcars Thanks for the reply! Thanks for the information on this platform. Well done man
Hi could you link to where you got the KW Springs from. The German site I think indicates cost around UKP 3k. Thanks in advance.
There is a guy on the Giulia Forum that has installed the KW DDCPNP coilovers onto his Giulia and Stelvio and says the ride is amazing. I'm looking forward to the mods you are planning on doing.
yeah i ordered the KW ddc kit back in April and it literally just came two weeks ago. If they did not advise me of compatibility concerns on the 21 car i would have installed it in the 2021 but il be honest the Kw St Springs with the 2021 shock tuning feels incredible it is so much better than the earlier cars with the lowering springs
@@autofanaticcars Thats interesting because on the KW website it list's the KW DDCPNP for 2021 models. The part # is 39015001.
exactly why i ordered it and it was not able to be canceled as these are special made per order then engineering department in Germany wrote me weeks later that they have no testing or data that this will work on the 2021 car and advised me it would not. A part of me thinks it would work but I was not inclined to be the test mule and have potential issues since ive been going through hell with my 2018 car for months. I hope by next month I can test it on my 2018 as its been in a shop for 2 months now out of state.
@@fskof it was developed with a German QV pre-facelift. But it should also work on the facelift.
It’s funny you called the new G80 M3 “ugly”. I still remember to this day when they first came out with the M3 renders I immediately wondered if they stole a design guy from Alfa. LOL
that G80 looks nothing Italian in design or Alfa its a design after thought and everyone knows it. BMW is clearly going in the wrong direction on all of their cars and this is coming from a long time M customer which is why I do not buy them anymore.
is the 2019 or 2020 better?
Nice video, such an exciting car, I hope one day to get one!! Are you buying or leasing?
you gotta buy the lease is off the charts insane due to the values the banks offer you and %
Great video Mr Auto Fanatec! What are your final suspension set up values / settings?
you can email me direct to discuss, i have gone through 6 alignment variations over the last 3 years on these cars and found what I really like. depends also what you like in terms of the cars feel.
So for your 2021 model, suspension wise you just changed the kw st sport springs is it right? Because i want to buy a Giulia qv and my thoughts about that were all about the suspension settings.. Thanks for your reviews and god bless your work.. You do an awesome job!
That is correct the 21 with the mods responded amazing the earlier 18 i own the shocks suck there too soft so i had to do Kw coil overs
Thank you i will try it out.
Is it true that the latest models make much less noise than the previous models? And from what year onwards can we notice this change? (2019 ? 2020 ? 2021 ? ) Is there any way to rework the exhaust line to get a sound like on the old quadrifoglios ?
exhaust sounds the same on the outside of the car. in the cabin the new cars are much more refined with the thicker glass and more sound proof which is a big improvement in the quality feel of the car.
@@autofanaticcars You're actually sure about the outside sound ?
The quadrifoglio I plan to buy has the akrapovic line, maybe that will compensate for the fact that the windows are thicker now? I actually have two purchase options:
A 2019 Giulia quadrifoglio in Monte Carlo blue but with few options, and it will need new rims and brake caliper color. It has 16,777 miles and costs $76,550, I was able to take it for a a test drive and it makes a great noise
A 2021 Giulia quadrifoglio in Monte Carlo Blue but with the perfect rims and calipers, and with a lot of options including the akrapovic exhaust system. It has only 3728 miles but costs $87,000. I'm just worried about the difference in noise it may make (I've never seen it in real life), maybe it will be possible to correct that by reworking the exhaust line at a garage (someone told me it was possible, talking about 200-cell downpipe, free center and free end with resonator; to be honest I have no idea what that is).
Which choice sounds more interesting? I'd love to hear your opinion as you've had two different models of Giulia
So how much were all the upgrades total.. I'm looking to buy one soon and will be interested in doing the same mods u did
Watch my new 3 year ownership video I discuss all the running costs and aftermarket mod costs
We've got the small front brake discs......
A day and half on the alignment rack ?! Why did i take that long ? 😂 i have done alignment on mine. Took less than an hour
it's called fine tuning the toe adjustments front and rear make substantial feel on these cars so we make incremental changes on our roads to see how the car tracks and reacts and go back to adjust and test again.
@autofanaticcars sounds intense man. Not a whole lot of adjusting on these stock. Have you changed everything to make all adjustable ?
Yes the front and rear kits you need them lowering these cars otherwise handling gets sketchy
@autofanaticcars lowering every car changes the handling. That's why I kept mine stock..phillipe krief designed the chassis. 7.32 around the ring. That's good enough for me, especially as its a road car.
anyone know if direct injection carbon build up an issue with the earlier QV's ? and also did they change this in the newer cars?
For the QV if you want reliable get a 2020 or newer.
Do you have any exhaust system upgrade you will recommend? I have a 17 QV.
Do the Centerline Alfa X pipe see my video from two weeks ago
Current cars' brake pad compounds contain lower copper levels, to comply with new regulations. Apparently, the elevated copper levels in water runoff measurements attributed to brake pads is seen as environmentally problematic.
yes i also heard this as well for CA regulations and EU and they also said this is why the stopped offering the CCB options. the brakes feel great on the 21 which is a huge step in the right direction for this technology.
@@autofanaticcars I notice a marked difference on the bremboes between my 2015 and my 2020 mustangs. The 2020 lacks the immediate bite the older car had.
Auto fanatic,
I recently got a check engine light on my Stelvio Qv with a message service electric throttle
Have you ever encountered this issue and if so how was it corrected
Thanks
ha ha yes way to many times the solutions seems to be the fuel pump and module, common on all 17-19 cars the 2020 and newer cars i have not heard of this being an issue as they revised the fuel injection systems to port injection versus direct injection. get yours fixed before you get stuck.
Thanks
How can i contact you to talk about these mods? would love to replicate what you've done? just bought the 2021 Quad
contact me through the email in the video descriptions above or via www.auto-fanatic.com
Looking at used Gulia QV, can't afford a be one😢. Which year would be best 19 or 20?
the 20 has man improvements in tech and build quality but the older ones drive a bit more raw if that is your desire there is so much QV content on this channel so search around and enjoy.
@@autofanaticcars did the 19s and 20's have the CC brake option
no they did not from 2020-22 Alfa discontinued many options i would not suggest you buy a CC brake car as they are godly expensive to replace
Can you do a video with Alfa Romeo ti sport because I don’t have money to buy Quadrifglio
I have videos on the Ti sport on the channel i reviewed one a few months back in white check it out
@@autofanaticcars thank you
I thought you could not buy the Centerline muffler anymore. I want to do some mods on my 2020 QV, and liked the #3 tubing that Centerline had. Hope I am wrong.
I do have the 8 year 125k Mopar warranty, so I am pretty mod averse.
I am in Philly with my 2020 Trofeo White QV, would love to meet up!
Ted
Hi contact Centerline they might be out of stock as they are revising the design of the X pipe from what the owner told me last week. let them know I sent you.
@@autofanaticcars I will do that my good Sire, take care of yourself!
Ted
So as I recall you did a video and you said you would never get a 2021 look it you now
no 2020 not based on the actual car but how that year derailed everyones life around the world and wrecked havoc on the economy and everything else, just a little thing i have when years remind me of certain scenarios in life that you do not want to remember which is why i passed on getting a 2020 GT350R Heritage model and sold my 2020 C8 Vette build to a customer before i ever saw it.
So you're not getting the coil overs?
I have the Kw coilovers that will be going on my 2018 one of these days when I get it back.
i will take you up on your offer to test drive :) i was hoping you could help out with my 2018 QV issue. when i use the wiper fluid the entire reservoir drains out and the dash shows the low on wiper fluid warning. and when i fill it back up the warning goes away. but it doesn’t leak everytime. i took it to the alfa romeo service here in philly and they checked the reservoir and said they didn’t find any leak and they couldn’t recreate the issue. i got the car back and in a few days the same thing happened. i know the fluid is leaking from somewhere because i tried it in the garage and there was a pool of the wiper fluid underneath. any idea? and thanks in advance!
sound like your washer pump is defective its a huge PITA to remove it from the car as its mounted inside the drivers front fender.
@@autofanaticcars thank you so much! I will try to put that idea with the alfa Romeo service guys.
You’d let us test drive??
Also on mine when i turn the wheel all the way to the left or right i get this rotational clicking from the front of the car. Does anyone else get this, usually it's worse in the rain..
please retorque your front wheel lug nuts. the front rotors are a dual cast design with aluminum centers and cast iron rings which expand and contract at different rates to the different materials which can make noise at times but I have seen improper lug bolt torque also cause clicking on many cars including the QV
@@autofanaticcars thank will try that and keep you posted
Yeah my 17' QV feels a little too bouncy on dips..
yes it's the shock tuning and something i always complained about since I got my 2018 wishing to firm that up a bit. It appears they went softer on the shock tuning on the earlier cars with stiffer springs and did the opposite on the new cars which is why the 21 responds so well to the lowering kit I hope the KW ddc will solve that issue but on the 21 car you do not need to worry about not having coil overs because with the Kw st springs it feels PERFECT on the road.
Would you get a gtam?
I would but it can not be legally registered in the USA that is the issue plus i think the QV is awesome as is and a much better value overall.
So you're keeping your 2018 QV?
at this moment I do not know but i think the plan is to get it back, modify it again and find it a new home so I can possibly get something new from Maranello hint hint.
ha ha i wish thats way out of my budget for a daily driver.
Is it smart to just shift these car twice and then forget about it and let them sit at 4k to 5k rpm constantly like that cant be good can it ? Like cruising at 4k?! At like 40mph?
its not about MPG on a performance car they are designed to be reved and kept in the power band for most fun. will not hurt the car at 4k RPM as long as you do not pin the car at redline for extended periods its fine.
@@autofanaticcars ok that definitely answers my question. I just didn't know if at the end of the day holding the rpm so high constantly would damage engine or transmission. Would you recommend a used say 2018 or 2019 ? Any major problems that I should be aware of? Any turbo problems ?
My ethos on high performance turbo cars is check the oil often each week and change it more often than they suggest. On my black 2018 QV i changed the oil at 1000 mark then every 2k miles because of the heat and wear and tear of the turbos create. If you fail to do this and the engine burns oil and your not aware it will grenade like any other over time
@@autofanaticcars thanks for the heads up. Didn't know turbo engines required that much attention. I guess thats why so many people often complain about turbos going bad and cars being crap. In reality they are just not taking good care of their vehicles