This is it! This is what I was searching for.....this will be the final build for this league...already did 8 builds, didn t enjoy 1 of them, but this seems pretty damn enjoyable! Thank you so much, keep going!
@subtractem i have a question, is done for 3.25 and in case is in your program release a video whit this build adjust for 3.25, i find that realy good and i'm realy hiped for start this new league whit ur build
Bro i have to say THANK YOU, that guide helped me so many ways even tho i have somewhat experience in the game. Its somewhat budget, easy to play, it gets online pretty early too. Thank you.
Soo.. I'm planning to start PF BV to transition into this at some point. It seems like a decent transition as gear is somewhat adjacent, the trees are also pretty close and the playstyle of moving in real close fits... Would there be a better leaguestarter to transition from?
Following the budget setup. I'm new to soulrend and don't do much poison. Whats the best way to up single target damage. Mine is terrible lol. I have everything for the most part but still leveling.
I just tested, you're right! I read somewhere that the outgoing can only hit once but that's wrong. With that said, it was _very_ hard on a regular sized boss to get all projectiles to hit. With 10 proj I was getting 3-4 poisons on outgoing only on average per cast so I'm ok with a conservative setup in PoB. Good to know though thanks!
@Subtractem , Why is there 24 projectiles linked to Soulrend in the Uber build PoB , wouldn't it only be 2 projectiles for the one outgoing and the returning projectile ? Makes a HUGE difference in the dps numbers so curious.
Because you hit once with the first one coming out in the spiral form. The returning projectiles take the straight line back, ignoring the spiral. All those projectiles hit.
I instantly fell in love with this build upon seeing it, I want to do it for 3.25, but with the emphasis on phys taken as elemental and also divine blessing malevolence.... Is this build dead?
As a noob watching this: Pohx - Use this 1 skill and 1 button. Subtractem - I just use this, this, this, these and then this and then these skills here. Thanks for the guide Sub - Putting the build together now! Really missed a cyclone build! I have it doing yellow maps now - will push on.
Man im so eager to try this build. Last thing i need to do is crafting the weapon with graveyard, been delaying it for hours but you gotta do what you gotta do right
Looks like an interesting build. Damage over time is tricky. Ive done a few builds which has always kinda confused me since they dont nessisarily crit. Its just all about scaling the DOT.
@@subtractem wonderful thanks for replying. it has my favorate skill in it and if I dont have to stuttercast with the cycolone makes it a really comfortable build for my aging hands.
I am, but you're not _always_ channeling so a cheap jewel is a good way to just make it more comfortable when you do end up walking a bit. It's not mandatory at all though.
Hi Mr Sub, caught you on stream but you were occupied and wanted to ask a question on this build. How do you get Malevolence to work with divine blessing. It's costing me 632 mana to cast it. Is there a trick i'm missing?
You can lower the level of divine blessing or also link it with a 20/20 inspiration support to reduce the cost. How much ES you have will depend mostly on the rolls of your Dark Seers.
I was looking into crafting a CWC staff with +3 (fire) Skill gems +2 all skill gems, and open prefix for crafting +2 support gems, to link an empower for +5, that would work for this build and should be even easier to craft with a chaos tag
Yeah, caustic arrow would make sense with that tree, you get enough respec points if u do all the quests to even pick up DoT bow trees on the way (Aspect of the Eagle, Hunter's Gambit, Farsight) early on.
I got fairly lucky. Logged in the other night and they were listed at 50d. Did a live search and within 5 minutes someone posted one for 25d. Bought it. Still stupid expensive but it is what it is
I was thinking about that, sadly it's just too far away so you're looking at either skin of the lords or the mana stacking body armor...which just nukes our phys taken as. If you could swing a skin and get an insane triple phys taken as watchers eye...could be neat.
In the budget build you have the "count" for soulrend at 3, but the high budget version it is 30. Can you explain how this works and why it is such a big difference please
3 is way too low, I think I was being mega conservative in that pob just to guard against people saying I was padding the numbers. The real calculation is: Returning projectiles has 60% less damage. So if you shoot out 5 proj the count is 5 + (5 * 0.4 rounded down) = 7 With nimis you get full damage per projectile and we are also using gmp and dying sun (which is 6 more stacks alone since we get 3 proj with flask effect and double hits) so you can see how quickly it stacks up.
@@subtractem hmmm ok. just had a big drop so can afford a nimis now. may go for that upgrade. Adjusting my pob from 3 to 7 is a huge difference in damage going from 5.9mil to 13.5mil without nimis
Craft +1 to chaos skill gems and +1 to level of all skill gems. it's going to be worse because minus one to level of soulrend and no mana reservation eff, but u can anoit it or use base jewels
"hl""e [qs].*(\d{3})%" "2 additional|barrel|shaper" these are the two i use but theyre only for what youre looking FOR, not against. the list of things you dont want to run is too long.
@@subtractem seems good then :) might try..but on the other hand there is a lot of build I want to try and I've only got 400div -.- to many builds...not enough currency only ever played RF, EA elemantalist, last league your SRS Guadian , BSjugg
@@subtractem haha took me a couple hours pulling out my hair. Finally realised the flask. Thanks for the response. Can't wait for your 3.25 league start guides
@@akumatsubasa4162 id wait until 90, it's very easy to hit that level in a single day using the Domination Scarab of Teachings and taking all Shrine/Breach nodes.
say i was crafting an oscillating scepter to mid max damage.......what would be the best mods from best to worst....ie = dam over time multi\flat chaos\attack speed etc..
@@RickReasonnz damn.. glad i read this. Was gonna go for it and try to make this build :P Im a new player got lucky with 200 div trying to find a nice and easy build that does most things :P
@@nickcameron9610 Not a cheap build. At this point in the league, it's moderate-to-high. I tried making it with spending, oh say 70 odd div, and while it is strong, to get comfortable would cost me much more, and at this point, I'm thinking, maybe this league is good for now and I will try other builds come next league.
Yeah I'm playing a similar build and using annhilation's approach boots. Please note that while your health will sit at 1 in your hideout, you can die in both the graveyard and mining encampment (and probably the other league zones as well). I've died a couple times in the graveyard because I forgot to turn off my boots and got distracted on my second screen.
I considered that but for pushing the budget poison dps i really needed something to level up the soulrend gems. i tried some funny things with channeling incinerate and other spells and the grasping vines boots for more poison but Cyclone just felt so much comfier to get around with (also we get the poacher's mark life on hit which is nice).
@@subtractem Fair. I simply have horrifying memories of being slam blasted out of existence because I got stuck in Cyclone animation way back in the day :P Let's hope that one day GGG gives us a cool casting channel spell. (One of my fav builds every was an Incinerate Volatile Dead Chieftain - wasn't super effective, but so much fun to play.)
Looks like a fun build. Funnily enough pob doesn't show my watchers eye "10% of Physical Damage from Hits taken as Fire Damage while affected by Purity of Fire" in the Damage Taken Calc. 😅 I would hope it does the same thing as the mods for purity of elements.
@@Crude0wl Found it. The interaction withe the hand of phrecia gloves and generosity isn't showing up in Pob. Still not sure if this is an ingame bug or not. :D
Dragonfang was 1 divine when I made the video as I showed and I warn about prices changing after the guide is posted. You can graveyard craft something just as good with a little effort. Progenesis and Nimis are explicitly in the high investment version, yes.
I would argue that Sap is up much of the time for when it matters considering we're trying to stand under the enemy when Cycloning. definitely won't be active for ranged enemies usually but for most bossing and rares it'll be up.
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Well i'll be damned they really are cats
Finally a build i can enjoy
Best thing I’ve seen all day.
This is it! This is what I was searching for.....this will be the final build for this league...already did 8 builds, didn t enjoy 1 of them, but this seems pretty damn enjoyable! Thank you so much, keep going!
Please tell me that Soulrend of the Spiral PF will be still good after recent patchnotes...
hi I just started and want to aim for this build. Do you have any other pathfinder build for mostly bossing to start? thank you
can this be a league start of some sort or nah?
@subtractem i have a question, is done for 3.25 and in case is in your program release a video whit this build adjust for 3.25, i find that realy good and i'm realy hiped for start this new league whit ur build
He said the build is a bit squishier but maybe he will change something
Absolutely love this build bro! Thank you for the time and effort putting it together and sharing it Sub! ❤
Bro i have to say THANK YOU, that guide helped me so many ways even tho i have somewhat experience in the game. Its somewhat budget, easy to play, it gets online pretty early too. Thank you.
Whats a good time to switch?
Looking to play this in the 3.25 rerun, which leaguestartr would be a good starting point from which i could transition to this build later on?
Soo.. I'm planning to start PF BV to transition into this at some point. It seems like a decent transition as gear is somewhat adjacent, the trees are also pretty close and the playstyle of moving in real close fits... Would there be a better leaguestarter to transition from?
does this build still work
Yes but I don't think you can get 100% phys taken as anymore
Works, but use svalinn
Following the budget setup. I'm new to soulrend and don't do much poison. Whats the best way to up single target damage. Mine is terrible lol. I have everything for the most part but still leveling.
It is just bad until you get up into the upper 80s and can start grabbing the large chaos cluster jewel
If you're inside the target, all the outgoing projectiles should hit one target too. There's some testing video using the Golden Rule on the wiki.
I just tested, you're right! I read somewhere that the outgoing can only hit once but that's wrong.
With that said, it was _very_ hard on a regular sized boss to get all projectiles to hit. With 10 proj I was getting 3-4 poisons on outgoing only on average per cast so I'm ok with a conservative setup in PoB. Good to know though thanks!
@Subtractem , Why is there 24 projectiles linked to Soulrend in the Uber build PoB , wouldn't it only be 2 projectiles for the one outgoing and the returning projectile ? Makes a HUGE difference in the dps numbers so curious.
Because you hit once with the first one coming out in the spiral form. The returning projectiles take the straight line back, ignoring the spiral. All those projectiles hit.
You would choose my favorite mtx skill effect. Now I HAVE to try this build
is there a way to get the 25% phys to cold that we lost from taste of hate?
I instantly fell in love with this build upon seeing it, I want to do it for 3.25, but with the emphasis on phys taken as elemental and also divine blessing malevolence.... Is this build dead?
hello this build can work 3.25?
As a noob watching this:
Pohx - Use this 1 skill and 1 button.
Subtractem - I just use this, this, this, these and then this and then these skills here.
Thanks for the guide Sub - Putting the build together now! Really missed a cyclone build! I have it doing yellow maps now - will push on.
Man im so eager to try this build. Last thing i need to do is crafting the weapon with graveyard, been delaying it for hours but you gotta do what you gotta do right
With the price of dragon fangs being 50ish , and nimis currently 75 ish, would you recommend skipping the ammy and going after the nimis first?
If the 3 soulrend amu replacable with somthing else? They are going for like 80+ divs
Looks like an interesting build. Damage over time is tricky. Ive done a few builds which has always kinda confused me since they dont nessisarily crit. Its just all about scaling the DOT.
Ok so what do we level Enfeeble, Frost Sheild, Immortal Call and CWDT to? Looking at the pob is tripping me up
I don't understand the Immutable Force if you are using awakened CWC. It should give you stun immunity while channeling.
Yeah, was thinking about this too lol
It's really for when you're walking around and not channeling. Absolutely optional though!
will you be updating this for 3.25 please (hope).. LOL
I might, I looked into it a little the other day and it should still work just be a little squishier.
@@subtractem wonderful thanks for replying. it has my favorate skill in it and if I dont have to stuttercast with the cycolone makes it a really comfortable build for my aging hands.
@@subtractemmy main question would be, what flask would you replace taste of hate with, which doesn't help the build anymore (presumably)
Noob here, is this a one button playstyle? Currently playing EHOTS lvl 100 deadeye and looking for something better for t17's.
why dont just awakened CWC for stuns?
I am, but you're not _always_ channeling so a cheap jewel is a good way to just make it more comfortable when you do end up walking a bit. It's not mandatory at all though.
hey, has anyone else had issues with their PoE randomly crashing? seems to be almost every time I try to trade with someone
What map mods will brick the build?
Hi Mr Sub, caught you on stream but you were occupied and wanted to ask a question on this build. How do you get Malevolence to work with divine blessing. It's costing me 632 mana to cast it. Is there a trick i'm missing?
You can lower the level of divine blessing or also link it with a 20/20 inspiration support to reduce the cost. How much ES you have will depend mostly on the rolls of your Dark Seers.
Can this be league started? I’m starting to look towards the next league
I was looking into crafting a CWC staff with +3 (fire) Skill gems +2 all skill gems, and open prefix for crafting +2 support gems, to link an empower for +5, that would work for this build and should be even easier to craft with a chaos tag
How do you league start this build ? caustic arrow ? as long as it's not ED + contagion Kappa
Yeah, caustic arrow would make sense with that tree, you get enough respec points if u do all the quests to even pick up DoT bow trees on the way (Aspect of the Eagle, Hunter's Gambit, Farsight) early on.
pconc bouncing best option to start
call me noob but how 3 curses works with arcanist brand? Do I need to cast AB to trigger curses?
Yes
Neat build! Around what level could I go somewhat shopping for this build and have it run after A10?
i wouldn't really try to put it together before level 90, this is more of an end game build
Would be nice to have a leveling guide for this build. Thanks!
You can't. Just level a ranger however you like, I recommend poisonous concoction.
The replica dragonflight fang was very cheap at the time of recording. Its now like 40-50d lol
Yeah, ideal play now is craft a rare
I got fairly lucky. Logged in the other night and they were listed at 50d. Did a live search and within 5 minutes someone posted one for 25d. Bought it. Still stupid expensive but it is what it is
@@redbeard101272 i tried vendoring the cheaper ones but it was too much time waiting for non responsive lists
@@subtractem saved some div and bought one for 40d. Aiming for nimis and dagger craft next!
Hi, for the life flask, did you press it when the effect ends, or there are some ways we can automated it.
you have to press it every 5 seconds yes
@@subtractem Ok, thanks for the sharing!
So what is the budget in numbers?
is there any way to have mind over matter for this build?
I was thinking about that, sadly it's just too far away so you're looking at either skin of the lords or the mana stacking body armor...which just nukes our phys taken as.
If you could swing a skin and get an insane triple phys taken as watchers eye...could be neat.
In the budget build you have the "count" for soulrend at 3, but the high budget version it is 30. Can you explain how this works and why it is such a big difference please
3 is way too low, I think I was being mega conservative in that pob just to guard against people saying I was padding the numbers.
The real calculation is:
Returning projectiles has 60% less damage. So if you shoot out 5 proj the count is 5 + (5 * 0.4 rounded down) = 7
With nimis you get full damage per projectile and we are also using gmp and dying sun (which is 6 more stacks alone since we get 3 proj with flask effect and double hits) so you can see how quickly it stacks up.
@@subtractem hmmm ok. just had a big drop so can afford a nimis now. may go for that upgrade. Adjusting my pob from 3 to 7 is a huge difference in damage going from 5.9mil to 13.5mil without nimis
Definitely running this next league.
Would this be possibe to league start?
Any alternatives to replica dragonfangs amulet?
Craft +1 to chaos skill gems and +1 to level of all skill gems. it's going to be worse because minus one to level of soulrend and no mana reservation eff, but u can anoit it or use base jewels
hi, do u think that u can run simulacrum with this ? awesome build btw
Easily yes
@@subtractem ty for the answer, do u think that u can wave 30 ? and with the budget or the uber
Yes. Budget. Simulacrum is very easy compared to t17. This is a t17 farmer.
Sub, godly video! Can you please add a regex for T17 maps? Thank you for the very detailed video!
"hl""e [qs].*(\d{3})%"
"2 additional|barrel|shaper"
these are the two i use but theyre only for what youre looking FOR, not against. the list of things you dont want to run is too long.
@@subtractem thank you!!!
well..have you tried b2b t17 with 150 inc dmg and 200% dmg as random element?
Yes. At the high end investment I've done some insane maps quite easily.
@@subtractem seems good then :) might try..but on the other hand there is a lot of build I want to try and I've only got 400div -.- to many builds...not enough currency only ever played RF, EA elemantalist, last league your SRS Guadian , BSjugg
Ok so are you using a + 3 chest or something? How are you getting to level 31, 2x dark = 4 + 3 from the amulet that 7 +a 21 gem that's level 28.
I am yes. We made it yesterday on stream.
Am i missing something here? How do you get to level 31 soulrend? 21 gem, +4 weapon, +1 CoF, +3 amulet.... where's the other level coming from?
Chaos mastery on tree
Why do we use that weapon base in the high budget, how does it work do we randomly cast flame dash lol
I picked it to get more CDR for frostblink, you'd specifically not want to put any manual cast skills in there so the Flame Dash never triggers.
Got it thanks
Hello,ive been strugling doing t17 and i wanna test this build,can i play this using mageblood?
No. Tides of time is mandatory
I see thanks,ive completed the gears,tmrw i might get the clusters and test it.
Hi!!! I really want to try this build! Do you know if you can start with a 50 div budget? Is it enough for tier 17? Thx!
Yep!
@@subtractem THX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No, as soon as a streamer highlights something the prices double or triple.
I just put it together(minus the 14 div medium cluster) and all in with the cluster should be around 40ish div
@@ogfvgaming5394 lol 20div for replica dragonfang!
Can you play this in 3.25 with no blessings
how does he use energy shield on mana without taking Eldritch Battery node?
Replica sorrow flask
hi this build can do simulacrum?
thanks for the guide
Easily!
Is it possible to use mageblood with this build?
No
You got Eldrich Battery allocated or something?
Flask
@@subtractem haha took me a couple hours pulling out my hair. Finally realised the flask. Thanks for the response. Can't wait for your 3.25 league start guides
For what class is This Build?
why can we do this but not cwc slams
Why does your watchers eye make a fancy background..?
Old supporter pack mtx
@@subtractem Ahh!
is it league start viable?
Can you league start this realistically in trade I feel like it wouldnt be THAT bad.
how did you craft your high budget weapon?
Pob item crafter 🤣 it's a very fake item. Ideal craft would be fossils on a fractured dot multi base.
3.25 viable?
Which are the last 10 Points to allocate? So I know which I can safely ignore in the beginning
At what level can I start going meow?
😽 id drop a medium cluster (keep the poison chance one) and maybe a few life nodes
@@subtractem thx! At what level can I go cats? Should I wait until maps or can you swap early?
@@akumatsubasa4162 id wait until 90, it's very easy to hit that level in a single day using the Domination Scarab of Teachings and taking all Shrine/Breach nodes.
@@subtractem aye okay, so hollow palm it is for leveling :D thank you.
I made a cats while channeling soulrend occultist back when the cat mtx first dropped. this looks much better
im only level 93 what points would u take off ? thanks
Probably one of the medium clusters and some life nodes
Is this viable as trickster?
say i was crafting an oscillating scepter to mid max damage.......what would be the best mods from best to worst....ie = dam over time multi\flat chaos\attack speed etc..
how much money do i need for this to work? i have only literally 100 chaos
About 5000-7000 chaos to get started. You can make about 1000 chaos an hour selling incursion temples with little investment.
@@subtractem i just saw your vid on temple.. thanks for that. Does it matter which tier maps I run it in?
I just spent 2 days making a CoC discharge elementalist which failed. Now. It might be cats time.
is there an alternative amulet
Yeah grave craft a plus two with dot multi
isnt dd better on low budget?
I like green cars instead of red cars. Sometimes builds are personal preference and just saying "better/worse" is missing the point.
Replica Dragonfang w/ soulrend gems is 9 div now :(
Sooo... was curious, as of now, it's at 35 Div. GJ Sub!
@@RickReasonnz damn.. glad i read this. Was gonna go for it and try to make this build :P Im a new player got lucky with 200 div trying to find a nice and easy build that does most things :P
@@nickcameron9610 Not a cheap build. At this point in the league, it's moderate-to-high. I tried making it with spending, oh say 70 odd div, and while it is strong, to get comfortable would cost me much more, and at this point, I'm thinking, maybe this league is good for now and I will try other builds come next league.
2:43 come on you calling this melee? xD
what about MB thought?
Not for this build no
I would like to play the build but pressing the life flask over and over again sounds kinda annoying, i would sure forget that all the time xD
Yeah I'm playing a similar build and using annhilation's approach boots. Please note that while your health will sit at 1 in your hideout, you can die in both the graveyard and mining encampment (and probably the other league zones as well). I've died a couple times in the graveyard because I forgot to turn off my boots and got distracted on my second screen.
the maces alone were 2 divs rip
No levelling guide for this build no?
No, it's an endgame only build
um awesome now how do i level this haha
Hm. Sad that you couldn't find a decent spell to channel with. Honestly surprised you didn't go in to a Poet's Pen/Squire combo.
I considered that but for pushing the budget poison dps i really needed something to level up the soulrend gems.
i tried some funny things with channeling incinerate and other spells and the grasping vines boots for more poison but Cyclone just felt so much comfier to get around with (also we get the poacher's mark life on hit which is nice).
@@subtractem Fair. I simply have horrifying memories of being slam blasted out of existence because I got stuck in Cyclone animation way back in the day :P Let's hope that one day GGG gives us a cool casting channel spell. (One of my fav builds every was an Incinerate Volatile Dead Chieftain - wasn't super effective, but so much fun to play.)
doesnt feel like 89EHP build
Right, feels like more😎
Someone bought out all dragonfang's and raised the price up to 50D :D! half way to building the build and i aint paying that much for this shit... lol
I got one yesterday for 18 Div and there were multiple for the 20 div range
you should probably craft +2 and dot multi amulet instead
Looks like a fun build. Funnily enough pob doesn't show my watchers eye "10% of Physical Damage from Hits taken as Fire Damage while affected by Purity of Fire" in the Damage Taken Calc. 😅 I would hope it does the same thing as the mods for purity of elements.
you'd need to have purity of fire active as an aura for that to show up
@@Crude0wl Found it. The interaction withe the hand of phrecia gloves and generosity isn't showing up in Pob. Still not sure if this is an ingame bug or not. :D
you can unspec Herbalism if you rly dont like pressing life flask. that is -10% life though >
You're missing the Crux of the build which is the sorrow flask plus master surgeon.
You have tattoos for the chance to poison
There a mageblood version?
No, the build entirely centers around tides of time.
@@subtractemok I made the build it's fun, I haven't even put any curses on yet and could do t16's at level 78 lol.
Hi, nice build , can you league start it ?
Not really no but it can easily be second build
@@subtractem Thank you for responding, will you be doing this build 3.25 with all changes? I might start toxic rain
Dragonfang 50+ Div
ProGenesis 60+ Div
Nimis ring 90 Div.
Dragonfang was 1 divine when I made the video as I showed and I warn about prices changing after the guide is posted. You can graveyard craft something just as good with a little effort.
Progenesis and Nimis are explicitly in the high investment version, yes.
replica dragonfang went to 45+ div XD
now peeps are selling the Replica Dragon Fang for 50 divines =( feels like I`m late to the party lol
+3 for soulrend neck is now 50 div 😂😂
excited to play replica sorrow of the divine + life flask
to bad only amulet costs 23 div ...
some of the configs are a bit cope, like sap, if its a t17 mapper and the ms isn't fast, its painal. rest is decent
I would argue that Sap is up much of the time for when it matters considering we're trying to stand under the enemy when Cycloning. definitely won't be active for ranged enemies usually but for most bossing and rares it'll be up.
@@subtractem Maybe phasing+big mobs+cyclone+playstyle makes the uptime fair enough to tick in pob, not mega convincing tho.
62divine amulet :S
so cute