Corrections: • Entries regarding Einhar's "not having nets" line and the betrayal league allegory is unclear if it's coincidental or not. • At 7:17:56 of Day 1 of the Exilecon 2023 livestream, Matt confirmed the connection of Alva and The Last to Die. • I completely forgot about the Ambush skill gem as that is more functionally similar to the Backstab skill gem compared to Nightblade support. Updates to Entries: • Well, the boat league entry aged like milk. We now got Settlers of Kalguur and it is GOATED! • Ultimatum has now returned as of patch 3.23.
I always treated the "not having nets" line just an inside joke to people that played the bestiary league and had to manage all their nets (and spend all their alch orbs to get them) ... but yeah I could see it having double meaning for those hearing it for the first time with no other reference frame Neat video. Nice walk down memory lane.
the einhar line is 100% confirmed to be a stab at diablo immortal. they added that line specifically to him when he returned as a permanent master in 3.5 which was shortly after the immortal debacle. the voiceactor actually had to come back to the studio to do the line so it made the cut in time
I haven't watched the whole video yet, but I wanted to jot this note down now, in case I forget later...The name of the world where the game takes place is an Old English word. Specifically, the word is found in the poem called "The Wanderer" (written around 600AD) which is found in the Exeter Book. The word "Wraeclast" translates into modern English as "Path of Exile".
i feel these are mostly all pretty surface level stuff. You need actual deeper stuff like GCP recipe hoarding, Baked Chicken speed meta, totem crash exploit, etc
The thing that truly sets poe apart for me is that GGG truly has a Vision for the game, maybe their execution isn't always good, maybe I don't like their choices in certain aspects, but I recognize that they have a real vision for the game. As long as they have a vision I will keep coming back
Their vision was great until the Expedition nerfs, AN update, and Harvest nerf. Since then it seems all they want to do is make stuff more RNG and more one-shot bs because not enough people play ruthless in Chris' eyes. After playing Wolcen and D4 and seeing how slow ARPGs just don't work, I have worries about PoE2 just based on what we have seen, hopefully, they get the balance right and we can zoom zoom by the end game. That is the only gauge of player power and how you skew the low drop rates of ARPGs to be more in favor, aka kill more mobs filter to get more rolls of the dice in the same amount of time.
@@totallynottrademarked5279 worst was Delve. Because Delve promised to finally be a great alternative to both leveling and mapping, the two most repetitive problem areas of the game, but in order to level from Delve you needed to be up to date on depth vs. level and to map for sulphite. It was a mind-bogglingly stupid and unnecessarily restrictive decision. It's like they never take a step back and ask themselves "WHY should we restrict this?" they just do it as some sort of reflex even when it has zero influence on the economy or player power.
On that last part, I have two comments. One, players almost never know what they want/what they'd enjoy the most, or what's best for the game they play. People legitimately don't know what's "good" until "good" is right in front of them, materialized and delivered by artists and designers with a strong vision. A strong vision from developers with the strength to know WHEN to ignore and even push back against the wrong type of feedback is needed for a game to succeed in the long term. And two, the PoE subreddit is a toxic dumpster that should be avoided at all costs and their participants not listened to. Good video!
Molten Strike used to be one of the strongest melee skills in the game, they changed it to only produce molten balls on hit because you could attack the ground with Ancestral Call support and it would double the number of balls you could produce versus a single target. The wildfire gem being unrestricted, and with Increased AoE and multistrike you would be hitting the target hundreds of times in short succession, which paired with a life gain on hit claw, gave you some of the best regen available. Near immunity to anything but one-shots. A popular build was using the shield Lycosidae to cover your accuracy on a Inquisitor which would ignore the enemies fire resistances. The sheer amount of numbers the build put out was actually straining the servers, hence the back to back nerfs over multiple patches/expansions, even after it fell out of the top meta builds, which lead to it being a bit of a community meme.
funny to see it is still an existing skill, especially in the latest league when scaling projectiles is easier and with sources of multitargeting not limited to ancestral call.
Very cool video. Interesting additions could be the hidden "Insanity"-Modifier, which is for example granted by Innsbury Edge. This buff makes crypic stuff happen, like random deleveling messages or heartattacks (This buff is not to be confused with the Insanity-Buff from Doppelgänger Guise). Other fun stuff would be Kiwihalt or the April Fool's Joke where they switched "Cast on Death" to "Cats on Death" due to a Typo.
If my memory isn't too foggy it was a happy little accident, because Chris mentioned in a Beaclast around Betrayal that the league had the planned name "Immortals" and at some point they scrapped it because the aren't really immortal and the betrayal is more prominent. I am just not too sure anymore because it has been a minute and there was sooo much that happened in the game over the years :3
Let's be honest, they is nothing betrayous about the Betrayal content, they just renamed it to surf on the negative Diablo hype. This is the league which name took me the longest to memorize because I had no context for it.
@@oneoranota Well if they wanted to surf the negative diablo hype then they would have stuck to "Immortal" since the Syndicate is immortal, like Catarina keeps reminding us all the time while fighting her. If we are honest then noone knows for sure and the statement we got is "It used to be immortal and then they went Betrayal since the Forsaken Masters now betrayed the Exiles" and that is about it. Everything other than the official statement of Chris during one of the older Baeclasts, at I think this was where he said it, would be speculation.
Thank you for the video! First time I remember seeing the boat league meme is, in teaser season for Heist, iirc, pretty early on Bex posted a boat-related image (because the Heist hub is Rogue Harbor, where we arrive by boat), and people went extremely wild with the speculation. For some reason, the idea of a boat-based league was incredibly funny, and fun to brainstorm.
I'm glad someone likes custom sounds as much as I do. Nearly everything in my filter has a custom sound so that I can identify whatever drops, I must have 100+ sounds at the moment and it just keeps growing!
dude. thank you for your effort in this video. really appreciate watching someone going through the history and experiences of the game, made for a great watch :)
Man Bex was a real one. One of the best CMs I have ever seen in any game. Also, ward is completely insane, it is key to one of the best builds in the game in wardloop, but it's more used as a resoruce than defense.
She hasn't done anything in the last few years, absolutely zero interaction with the players. I was surprised when I found out that she was still working at GGG (when she announced her dismissal).
@@ЕгорКорин-ч2б Well yes she was promoted to the director of the department she was in instead of being a community manager/community support. Directors don't typically directly interact with the playerbase 24/7
Hey I just want to say i like coming back to this video every now and then. Its my favorite video about poe on YT. There are still A LOT of cultural and factoid tid-bits you can still make a part 2 on. I've recommended this video to a bunch of people I play poe with they all loved it! I just want you to know your work here is much beloved and appreciated mate :)
Sometimes I click out from subbed channel to main YT site .. and oh boy.. this was a good catch. Amazing video to hear while playing 3.22 :) It was so fun to ride that nostalgia train. Thank you for this.
I think it should also be said about harvest how over the top the crafting prices at the start were when they changed it to lifeforce that they had to reduce some to 10 % of the orginal cost.
Nice video, it seems like a lot of stuff covered is relatively new. Some deep cuts about the OG community members and events like the Charan debacle, kripp's priceless stash, Ruler of Wraeclast supporter pack, and the mors vs cybrix meltdown would be interesting.
I generally don't like iceberg videos for whatever reason, but this was really entertaining and interesting. I agree on the last fact - GGG must do something right with their vision/philosophy and the way they interact with us players. Why do I say that? This game is still around and going strong after ten years, having survived D3, several other hyped ARPGs andd it really looks like it will survive D4. Maybe even PoE2, who knows ;)
Rarity now effects: currency drops, unique drops (for example more headhunter if you have high item rarity and drop a leather belt), and divination cards (tiers).
I was so happy when I heard that PoE2 will be a separate game. It gave me a huge sigh of relief to know that GGG still could understand or realise that their audiences are so fragmented that merging PoE1 into 2 will be the worst thing that happens after OW2.
They're still sharing an end game. So I'm not sure how they're not going to be merged in some way. The atlas system is still supposed to be shared between them. How that might work, no idea.
Making third party tools for this game was truly fun because you had the power to add to the game. I realize now that this is similar to making mods. Of course, tools being outside the game is subpar experience, but that is the limitation with PoE. I've tried hard in the past to somehow streamline the trading experience, and minimize the actions you need to do when you trade, so you spend less time outside the game. In fact, most of the tools do this especially back when you had to maintain a forum post to sell your items (fun times actually, posts were creative in presenting the items)
So Alva is the Last to Die. It was confirmed on a panel at Exilecon (the lore panel I think). The streamer queue debacle was amazingly tonedeaf not only because they did it but it confirms intervention towards certain individuals which means "streamer luck" the manipulation of drop rates might also be possible. Lot of good content to update new players about the history of the game and the memes.
Nice video, regarding the exa / div swap, I would also add that the community figured out legion jewels at the time and divine are needed to reroll them. That was a hot topic
Genuinely liked the video, I listened to the whole thing while blasting maps, went from 37% to 89% at level 96 in ssf. One thing I was kind of hoping you would mention would be the level 100 fame. Either in the racing or the vision aspect as GGG has a fine stance on level 100 race as well as softcore death xp, nerfing xp strats, nerfing how much xp is needed multiple times since the very first level 100. Also, side note since I know it wasn't mentioned audibly no clue maybe you showed some footage but the old school events were super fun I loved the pvp events and I forget what it was called but it kind of reminded me of sanctum where you started a run got random generated loot and had to push as hard as you could before it reset and then the fastest time or furthest was the winner. I completely forget the nuisances I just remember vivid memories of hanging out in a teamspeak server, yeah that old... and having good laughs at everyone sharing the chaos of some of these old school racing events. These little innovated designs early on in the game cemented ggg as a developer for me and I've been playing every league for at least the first couple days (talismans was the first league I noped out of super quick) since warbands. And speaking of warbands the league mechanics used to be separate to hardcore/softcore ladder and then they are kind of doing similar redesign now with ruthless/base game having their own balance. Maybe we'll get ruthless league's but I doubt it lol.
I loved Kalandra and Expedition league. No matter the nerfs and the community outrage, I had some of my best builds and most enjoyable moments during those 2 leagues :)
I started poe about 2 years ago on Kalandra league. I went in blind and learned and built my own build and reached maps. When i saw the atlas skill tree, my mind was blown. You mean there is a skill tree to customize and get control over the rng nature of the content that pops up. That was exactly when the game was sold to me. Nowadays i don't play it much because of how much of a time sink the game is and I can't play so many timesinks while still holding a full time job and try to have a life. I would love to come back to play poe again though.
I haven't changed my hideout in years because I still got the old Navali npc in mine and I kinda don't want to delete her. You can't interact with her at all, but she's still standing there, watching me frantically run in and out of portals and vendoring items that are definetly worth selling :D
Path of exile was the first Argp that I played. I never played Diablo. I played StarCraft. The first I heard of Poe was in a game informer. I saw the passive tree and I knew it was the game for me. I looked it up and downloaded the game, that day.
Great video. This was awesome how it touched on basically all parts of PoE and its community. Only thing Im kinda bummed out about is that Empyrean was only mentioned for the bad thing he did (and the loot nerf part), and not like the insane memes he and his crew do. Like, to me what his crew (and of course other non-streamer juicer groups) do is kinda the peak PoE to me. The sheer min/maxed insanity allowed only by crazy knowledge of many complex systems is a highlight of how players will push everything to its limits. Love that stuff, so to see the insanity that is min/maxed juicer content not be mentioned almost at all makes me feel like its missing. Still tho. Loved how much work you put into this
The video is immensely good. Great respect for the effort!. GGG has listened to the community a lot, they don't have to listen to everything the community whines about because we will end up with WoW type of problem - a game made for p*ss*es. Great job on covering so much of the game. I only wish you included a segment about GGG rewriting the game to fix performance. Back in the day the game used to load for 10 minutes on pressing start in steam (literally, not an exaggeration, sometimes even longer). At some point when GGG landed on their feet financially they decided to do something about it (I believe we had only 3 acts at the time, maybe 4). Developers even made reddit threads to get feedback from different people with all kinds of hardware. It was at that point that we knew they were serious about getting things right. I'm one of many people who's spent a lot of money on the game. And not because I needed to, but because I wanted to support the game as much as I was able to afford. And I still don't regret a single cent spent in Path of Exile. Thank you Chris. Keep on following your vision. Sometimes it's shit, sometimes it's godlike. But Babies will always complain either way.
Oh, and another thing - in the early years of the game the community got a reputation of people who are generally more willing to help than to be toxic. As the game got more popular all kinds of people came around, but we still have some great players if you know where to look. I always try to help others and explain as much as I know. Recently I spent few hours helping out a 60 year old grandpa learn the game and I dare say he's better than many young people I've seen play the game.
Supposedly they will have a way to import and export passive skill trees. Thanks for making this by the way. Very cool and fleshes out the game with this added info.
Amazing Video! This was fun learning about the lore and the background of some of the items! I remember the loot nerf in Kalandra League vividly, did a lot of heist like many others. Never forget :) I recommended this to a friend that just started since Crucible League. Curious to hear his thoughts, must be mind blown with the amount of mechanics we've had in the game.
Great video, and I love the conclusion, because I'm totally in the same boat. I played Expedition, I played Kalandra, I had a blast, just like I do every other league. While I have had the most fun in Sentinel and TotA, I don't rush to any judgment, and trust the plans that GGG has for their game. Where a company like Blizzard has lost my trust, I do honestly believe that everyone working at GGG loves Path of Exile, plays it extensively, and wants it to be the best game in the world. And...it is. And even with the hiccups along the way, it is trending better and better as time goes on, and I can't wait to see what the future holds for PoE 1 & 2.
Maaan this video is Top-Notch! It reminded me with everything i came across in this game which made me on a high!! Almost 2hours video went like a blink of an eye. Well done ❤
I am personally a D4 guy ..but this game has always interested me and I only wish good things for PoE and PoE 2 but while I do not play it I really enjoy watching stuff about it lol
I agree with your take on the vision. I used to think an auction house was the answer. Now realize the cost associated with trading is mecessary and i exploit market inefficiencies to get ahead. One thing you missed is how they are stingy with loot. Each league the new mechanic is unrewarding. They let it play out for a few weeks and then buff it. Also how mechanics like crucible and scourge could actually make your item worse... I can't support that vision.
Great video, but you forgot about one thing, interesting aspect of the masters and i really loved if you pointed to it. Let me explain it here, back then when you had masters in your hideout and you could do their dailies where they open portals etc, you could ask their opinion over other masters, and as one of them who was a master for ranger class, i love you to go and check her dialogue. I'm not going to spoil it but i believe it was one of the best characterizes feature about those npc
I haven't watched all the way to the end -- but damn! The flex of beating the Maven during those conditions... Damn. You just punched me in some sensitive bits as I have still not even under good conditions beaten the Maven...
Great video, I have been playing Since PoE had the 3 difficulties. Buddy and me still joke about the Touch of God when you had to kill him 3 different times. Also I believe you forgot to mention the big Desync issues they had early on. This is what kept me away from the early leagues cause it had lots of rubberbanding with server code.
Yeah, I forgot about the server issues in the earlier years. There was a random chance when entering an instance that it would just kick me out. That and the rubberbanding at other times.
there was a guy who got lv100 in ssfhc with only the 4 default stash tabs. so it's possible to do alot of stuff without needing to buy a stash tab. it's definitely not pay-to-win. but it's so much quality of life
I started today (on Ps4 so no planning program sadly) but I actually came from Warhammer 40k Inquisitor and was looking for more ARPGs and the skill tree honestly excites me
1:26:00 A large benefit of the 3rd party tools is, I can have them on my 2nd monitor or just work with them without having to open the game or be held back by maintanence, etc. I dont see much profit in having an entire tool built into the game. Because at that point, ask yourself how many tabs and menus are you fine with having in your game until it is too much? Some people play PoE casually. They already have enough to worry about with the giant skill tree. Having a menu as complex as a plane cockpit may not be a wise addition to the game. And how would you even decide which tools to add? Maybe you only use a trade, build and sth else tool. But what about x or y or z? Would we ignore the people that want those tools, just beause the part of the community using it is small? This gets tricky to manage. I'd say some annoyances that every single player has to deal with would be better off solved in a different way. Most 3rd party tools are QoL workarounds. Being able to trade your currency automatically with other people, skipping the 1:1 interaction or sth sth sth would probably remove the need for many trade tools. What about builds? Why not have popular current and past lague build recommendations inside the game under a "community" tab? There you get recommended gems, tips as to what works with what and so on. That would also teach new players details like what is a spell, what is a "hit" what is a "over time" etc. It would be imo more profitable for everyone to have people become smarter over just following a build guide blindly, not knowing why it works.
Oh man, I remember ultimatum league launch, eventually the community figured out that as long as you didn't go to another zone, you wouldn't get disconnected. So I did any normal person would do and kept resetting the instance in where I was, that place being crystal mine. The whole time I was laughing because how bizarre it was to have something like that happen in a league launch As a result though I got PSTD every time I go to that zone
Honestly when I first tried Poe after finishing D4 I saw the skill tree and dipped instantly, then randomly saw a RF jug recommended video and thought it looked fun. I now have over 300 hours in this game Ik it isn’t anything but still glad I got back in
What is the song do you have playing in the background during the final segment of the video? I thoroughly enjoy the entire video, thank you for making this! It's very well-made
Very well done iceberg video, only played the game for a few hours with a friend of mine. But nonetheless it was fun learning about the stories surrounding the community and patches. Awesome vid
Speaking of reusing assets, one of the TOTA chieftains , namely Kahuturoa is using the same moveset as Blackjaw boss that killed Mark during poe2 presentation. Check for yourself if you dont belive me ;p
I was able to grind out a headhunter the league before they changed it. It's the single best item I've ever had in any game. It was hilarious how quickly it ramped up out of control. Its always one of the first things i mention to people when i tell them about the game.
I would like to clarify something about the chinese only features. The pet is 90 days, and yes, but as I remember it, linked to that league. So you better buy it on the first day. The quick market is a add on purchable feature for your stash tab. So not only do you need to upgrade your stash you also need to buy the feature for that stash. If I remember correctly, and I can't remember if it is was restricted to a single stash per account. I am sure it was not a default premium feature. And you could not prepare your own tree, if you could I never knew how to do so. You was given 4 options per class. Except scion, you were given 2. Where the last option is: I am making my own build. So it has gear guides and the now infamous tree guides that nobody understands how annoying and great it actually was, unless you have played with it. I heat too many people talking about the chinese version who have never played it. Hell i heard people translating lanmao (blue hair) (zizaren) into lazy cat. Yes it is prnounced the same, but the context is clear. He had blue hair. Why would they call him "lazy cat" -_- I am a freaking sinologist and phd in Path of exile. I am making my own builds, crafting my own items, and it is a lie that harvest is not the best for super end game gear, it still very much is. It is just prohibitly expensive so people don't factor it in. I am using fossils, beasts, harvest, ex slamming, essences, fraturing, and more to make my items. And people should really begin to notice how amazing crafting really is in poe. They do not hold your hand, but they do provide you with the tools for you to build your meme man. :-D
At first glance i thought it will be a roast/rant against ggg, judging by the title. I am SO glad i watched the video, because it was the opposite: An explanaition of what PoE was, is and may become. To answer a question towards viewers from the video: I would like less third-party liability. Currently i'm ok with the tools and still learn how to better use them, but as a new player i was just confused on why i had to use this and that tool, i only wanted to play 😅 In conclusion... yet to be formulated.
Just a correction- chris actually said the lines for bestiary were recorded before blizzcon and the einhar "do you not have nets" was a wild coincidence. Was in an interview during the league. Pretty damn funny though.
It was so funny to me back in Kalandra and the birth of The Vision(tm). Whenever peoiple got lucky, that was because, like other god-touched monsters, they were Vision-touched
![BRASIL vs. URUGUAY [1-1] | RESUMEN | ELIMINATORIAS SUDAMERICANAS | FECHA 12](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-hWBAuxF1eY/mqdefault.jpg)
Corrections:
• Entries regarding Einhar's "not having nets" line and the betrayal league allegory is unclear if it's coincidental or not.
• At 7:17:56 of Day 1 of the Exilecon 2023 livestream, Matt confirmed the connection of Alva and The Last to Die.
• I completely forgot about the Ambush skill gem as that is more functionally similar to the Backstab skill gem compared to Nightblade support.
Updates to Entries:
• Well, the boat league entry aged like milk. We now got Settlers of Kalguur and it is GOATED!
• Ultimatum has now returned as of patch 3.23.
1:32:53 Fun Fact, it is actually confirmed by Matt during the Exilecon Storytelling Interview with Kittencatnoodle that Alva is the Last to Die
I always treated the "not having nets" line just an inside joke to people that played the bestiary league and had to manage all their nets (and spend all their alch orbs to get them) ... but yeah I could see it having double meaning for those hearing it for the first time with no other reference frame
Neat video. Nice walk down memory lane.
the einhar line is 100% confirmed to be a stab at diablo immortal. they added that line specifically to him when he returned as a permanent master in 3.5 which was shortly after the immortal debacle. the voiceactor actually had to come back to the studio to do the line so it made the cut in time
@@Norex7777777Coincidence does not imply causation. What is your "100% confirmed" source?
I haven't watched the whole video yet, but I wanted to jot this note down now, in case I forget later...The name of the world where the game takes place is an Old English word.
Specifically, the word is found in the poem called "The Wanderer" (written around 600AD) which is found in the Exeter Book.
The word "Wraeclast" translates into modern English as "Path of Exile".
i feel these are mostly all pretty surface level stuff. You need actual deeper stuff like GCP recipe hoarding, Baked Chicken speed meta, totem crash exploit, etc
The first time I opened that skill tree 8 years ago, I instantly knew that I had found my game. The more it grows the better it gets.
Like archnemesis going core ? 😂
@@lucashingueWe don't talk about that.
@@lucashingueyes, good decision
@@lucashingue I'd want to see old archnemesis in the game. I liked that challenge
@@duelist43 stop it, get some help
BOAT LEAGUE IS HERE AND ITS GLORIOUS
The iceberg goes even deeper.. meta crafting, legacy gear & collector items could fill an entire tier of iceberg in their own.
Learning that the guy who made Facebreakers was ALSO the guy who made Abyssus really makes sense, those are stapled to each other in most cases lol
The thing that truly sets poe apart for me is that GGG truly has a Vision for the game, maybe their execution isn't always good, maybe I don't like their choices in certain aspects, but I recognize that they have a real vision for the game. As long as they have a vision I will keep coming back
Their vision was great until the Expedition nerfs, AN update, and Harvest nerf. Since then it seems all they want to do is make stuff more RNG and more one-shot bs because not enough people play ruthless in Chris' eyes. After playing Wolcen and D4 and seeing how slow ARPGs just don't work, I have worries about PoE2 just based on what we have seen, hopefully, they get the balance right and we can zoom zoom by the end game. That is the only gauge of player power and how you skew the low drop rates of ARPGs to be more in favor, aka kill more mobs filter to get more rolls of the dice in the same amount of time.
@@totallynottrademarked5279 worst was Delve. Because Delve promised to finally be a great alternative to both leveling and mapping, the two most repetitive problem areas of the game, but in order to level from Delve you needed to be up to date on depth vs. level and to map for sulphite. It was a mind-bogglingly stupid and unnecessarily restrictive decision. It's like they never take a step back and ask themselves "WHY should we restrict this?" they just do it as some sort of reflex even when it has zero influence on the economy or player power.
Great video the only thing I would say Tie23he and Ben/lightee/darkee should be in the iceberg somewhere
Havent watched yet but darkee isnt in it? Thats bad
On that last part, I have two comments. One, players almost never know what they want/what they'd enjoy the most, or what's best for the game they play. People legitimately don't know what's "good" until "good" is right in front of them, materialized and delivered by artists and designers with a strong vision. A strong vision from developers with the strength to know WHEN to ignore and even push back against the wrong type of feedback is needed for a game to succeed in the long term. And two, the PoE subreddit is a toxic dumpster that should be avoided at all costs and their participants not listened to.
Good video!
Molten Strike used to be one of the strongest melee skills in the game, they changed it to only produce molten balls on hit because you could attack the ground with Ancestral Call support and it would double the number of balls you could produce versus a single target. The wildfire gem being unrestricted, and with Increased AoE and multistrike you would be hitting the target hundreds of times in short succession, which paired with a life gain on hit claw, gave you some of the best regen available. Near immunity to anything but one-shots. A popular build was using the shield Lycosidae to cover your accuracy on a Inquisitor which would ignore the enemies fire resistances. The sheer amount of numbers the build put out was actually straining the servers, hence the back to back nerfs over multiple patches/expansions, even after it fell out of the top meta builds, which lead to it being a bit of a community meme.
Molten strike armor stack is currently nuts, so it's got that going for it
funny to see it is still an existing skill, especially in the latest league when scaling projectiles is easier and with sources of multitargeting not limited to ancestral call.
the fact Nimis ring got added makes it so insane nowadays :D
This is absolutely phenomenal, been playing the game for 6 years and still took new info from this
Very cool video. Interesting additions could be the hidden "Insanity"-Modifier, which is for example granted by Innsbury Edge. This buff makes crypic stuff happen, like random deleveling messages or heartattacks (This buff is not to be confused with the Insanity-Buff from Doppelgänger Guise). Other fun stuff would be Kiwihalt or the April Fool's Joke where they switched "Cast on Death" to "Cats on Death" due to a Typo.
Neversink should just be paid by GGG honestly. The game is unplayable without him.
If my memory isn't too foggy it was a happy little accident, because Chris mentioned in a Beaclast around Betrayal that the league had the planned name "Immortals" and at some point they scrapped it because the aren't really immortal and the betrayal is more prominent.
I am just not too sure anymore because it has been a minute and there was sooo much that happened in the game over the years :3
Let's be honest, they is nothing betrayous about the Betrayal content, they just renamed it to surf on the negative Diablo hype.
This is the league which name took me the longest to memorize because I had no context for it.
@@oneoranota Well if they wanted to surf the negative diablo hype then they would have stuck to "Immortal" since the Syndicate is immortal, like Catarina keeps reminding us all the time while fighting her.
If we are honest then noone knows for sure and the statement we got is "It used to be immortal and then they went Betrayal since the Forsaken Masters now betrayed the Exiles" and that is about it.
Everything other than the official statement of Chris during one of the older Baeclasts, at I think this was where he said it, would be speculation.
my favourite line from the strange voice is when he calls you "stupid beast"
Thank you for the video! First time I remember seeing the boat league meme is, in teaser season for Heist, iirc, pretty early on Bex posted a boat-related image (because the Heist hub is Rogue Harbor, where we arrive by boat), and people went extremely wild with the speculation. For some reason, the idea of a boat-based league was incredibly funny, and fun to brainstorm.
and we got boat act in poe 2.
I'm glad someone likes custom sounds as much as I do. Nearly everything in my filter has a custom sound so that I can identify whatever drops, I must have 100+ sounds at the moment and it just keeps growing!
dude. thank you for your effort in this video. really appreciate watching someone going through the history and experiences of the game, made for a great watch :)
Man Bex was a real one. One of the best CMs I have ever seen in any game. Also, ward is completely insane, it is key to one of the best builds in the game in wardloop, but it's more used as a resoruce than defense.
Bex is now working for Riot in their recent announcement :3
She hasn't done anything in the last few years, absolutely zero interaction with the players. I was surprised when I found out that she was still working at GGG (when she announced her dismissal).
@@Kelenaeshe would fit right in considering how apathetic she is lol
@@ЕгорКорин-ч2б Well yes she was promoted to the director of the department she was in instead of being a community manager/community support. Directors don't typically directly interact with the playerbase 24/7
Hey I just want to say i like coming back to this video every now and then. Its my favorite video about poe on YT. There are still A LOT of cultural and factoid tid-bits you can still make a part 2 on. I've recommended this video to a bunch of people I play poe with they all loved it!
I just want you to know your work here is much beloved and appreciated mate :)
Sometimes I click out from subbed channel to main YT site .. and oh boy.. this was a good catch. Amazing video to hear while playing 3.22 :) It was so fun to ride that nostalgia train. Thank you for this.
I think it should also be said about harvest how over the top the crafting prices at the start were when they changed it to lifeforce that they had to reduce some to 10 % of the orginal cost.
42:00 Triskaidekaphobia. The 8 modifiers + 5 Delirium orbs for 100% delirious = 13. Another reason the creator wanted it.
Nice video, it seems like a lot of stuff covered is relatively new. Some deep cuts about the OG community members and events like the Charan debacle, kripp's priceless stash, Ruler of Wraeclast supporter pack, and the mors vs cybrix meltdown would be interesting.
I generally don't like iceberg videos for whatever reason, but this was really entertaining and interesting. I agree on the last fact - GGG must do something right with their vision/philosophy and the way they interact with us players. Why do I say that? This game is still around and going strong after ten years, having survived D3, several other hyped ARPGs andd it really looks like it will survive D4. Maybe even PoE2, who knows ;)
awesome video, really takes me back. hard to imagine "krangled" was 3 years ago, it feels like yesterday.
Love the segment about that particular streamer as I also don’t get the hype, gave me a good laugh. Awesome video!
Watched through the whole thing. Awesome work, my man.
Loved it!
I’m gonna need more snacks - this is great!
Rarity now effects: currency drops, unique drops (for example more headhunter if you have high item rarity and drop a leather belt), and divination cards (tiers).
I was so happy when I heard that PoE2 will be a separate game. It gave me a huge sigh of relief to know that GGG still could understand or realise that their audiences are so fragmented that merging PoE1 into 2 will be the worst thing that happens after OW2.
I would really like poe 2 being grim dawn pacing with poe 1 being the zoom-zoomy flood the screen bs one.
@@satibelit’s unlikely since POE 1 is already hitting every number cap because of the coding. Opposite is more realistic
@@3ace9 they said they want less stuff on screen in poe 2 so I don't think they'll do huge explosions.
They're still sharing an end game. So I'm not sure how they're not going to be merged in some way. The atlas system is still supposed to be shared between them. How that might work, no idea.
Making third party tools for this game was truly fun because you had the power to add to the game. I realize now that this is similar to making mods. Of course, tools being outside the game is subpar experience, but that is the limitation with PoE. I've tried hard in the past to somehow streamline the trading experience, and minimize the actions you need to do when you trade, so you spend less time outside the game. In fact, most of the tools do this especially back when you had to maintain a forum post to sell your items (fun times actually, posts were creative in presenting the items)
So Alva is the Last to Die. It was confirmed on a panel at Exilecon (the lore panel I think). The streamer queue debacle was amazingly tonedeaf not only because they did it but it confirms intervention towards certain individuals which means "streamer luck" the manipulation of drop rates might also be possible.
Lot of good content to update new players about the history of the game and the memes.
Nice video, regarding the exa / div swap, I would also add that the community figured out legion jewels at the time and divine are needed to reroll them. That was a hot topic
3000 hours in the game and I learned so much about lore related dynamics of the game. Well panned out video!
Genuinely liked the video, I listened to the whole thing while blasting maps, went from 37% to 89% at level 96 in ssf. One thing I was kind of hoping you would mention would be the level 100 fame. Either in the racing or the vision aspect as GGG has a fine stance on level 100 race as well as softcore death xp, nerfing xp strats, nerfing how much xp is needed multiple times since the very first level 100.
Also, side note since I know it wasn't mentioned audibly no clue maybe you showed some footage but the old school events were super fun I loved the pvp events and I forget what it was called but it kind of reminded me of sanctum where you started a run got random generated loot and had to push as hard as you could before it reset and then the fastest time or furthest was the winner. I completely forget the nuisances I just remember vivid memories of hanging out in a teamspeak server, yeah that old... and having good laughs at everyone sharing the chaos of some of these old school racing events.
These little innovated designs early on in the game cemented ggg as a developer for me and I've been playing every league for at least the first couple days (talismans was the first league I noped out of super quick) since warbands. And speaking of warbands the league mechanics used to be separate to hardcore/softcore ladder and then they are kind of doing similar redesign now with ruthless/base game having their own balance. Maybe we'll get ruthless league's but I doubt it lol.
I loved Kalandra and Expedition league. No matter the nerfs and the community outrage, I had some of my best builds and most enjoyable moments during those 2 leagues :)
I started poe about 2 years ago on Kalandra league. I went in blind and learned and built my own build and reached maps. When i saw the atlas skill tree, my mind was blown. You mean there is a skill tree to customize and get control over the rng nature of the content that pops up. That was exactly when the game was sold to me.
Nowadays i don't play it much because of how much of a time sink the game is and I can't play so many timesinks while still holding a full time job and try to have a life. I would love to come back to play poe again though.
I haven't changed my hideout in years because I still got the old Navali npc in mine and I kinda don't want to delete her.
You can't interact with her at all, but she's still standing there, watching me frantically run in and out of portals and vendoring items that are definetly worth selling :D
Path of exile was the first Argp that I played. I never played Diablo. I played StarCraft. The first I heard of Poe was in a game informer. I saw the passive tree and I knew it was the game for me. I looked it up and downloaded the game, that day.
Great video. This was awesome how it touched on basically all parts of PoE and its community.
Only thing Im kinda bummed out about is that Empyrean was only mentioned for the bad thing he did (and the loot nerf part), and not like the insane memes he and his crew do. Like, to me what his crew (and of course other non-streamer juicer groups) do is kinda the peak PoE to me. The sheer min/maxed insanity allowed only by crazy knowledge of many complex systems is a highlight of how players will push everything to its limits. Love that stuff, so to see the insanity that is min/maxed juicer content not be mentioned almost at all makes me feel like its missing.
Still tho. Loved how much work you put into this
The detail you put into this video is it's own skill tree. Thanks for that.
I didnt think there was any chance you had Brother Laz listed but there it was, great list!
The video is immensely good. Great respect for the effort!. GGG has listened to the community a lot, they don't have to listen to everything the community whines about because we will end up with WoW type of problem - a game made for p*ss*es. Great job on covering so much of the game. I only wish you included a segment about GGG rewriting the game to fix performance. Back in the day the game used to load for 10 minutes on pressing start in steam (literally, not an exaggeration, sometimes even longer). At some point when GGG landed on their feet financially they decided to do something about it (I believe we had only 3 acts at the time, maybe 4). Developers even made reddit threads to get feedback from different people with all kinds of hardware. It was at that point that we knew they were serious about getting things right. I'm one of many people who's spent a lot of money on the game. And not because I needed to, but because I wanted to support the game as much as I was able to afford. And I still don't regret a single cent spent in Path of Exile. Thank you Chris. Keep on following your vision. Sometimes it's shit, sometimes it's godlike. But Babies will always complain either way.
Oh, and another thing - in the early years of the game the community got a reputation of people who are generally more willing to help than to be toxic. As the game got more popular all kinds of people came around, but we still have some great players if you know where to look. I always try to help others and explain as much as I know. Recently I spent few hours helping out a 60 year old grandpa learn the game and I dare say he's better than many young people I've seen play the game.
The Divine Orb sound effect is perfect
Supposedly they will have a way to import and export passive skill trees. Thanks for making this by the way. Very cool and fleshes out the game with this added info.
After only a month, this has become my favorite game of all time
Amazing Video! This was fun learning about the lore and the background of some of the items! I remember the loot nerf in Kalandra League vividly, did a lot of heist like many others. Never forget :) I recommended this to a friend that just started since Crucible League. Curious to hear his thoughts, must be mind blown with the amount of mechanics we've had in the game.
1st time seeing that skill tree is when I fell in love with this game... For me it was imaculately fun to see that monstrosity
Great video, and I love the conclusion, because I'm totally in the same boat. I played Expedition, I played Kalandra, I had a blast, just like I do every other league. While I have had the most fun in Sentinel and TotA, I don't rush to any judgment, and trust the plans that GGG has for their game. Where a company like Blizzard has lost my trust, I do honestly believe that everyone working at GGG loves Path of Exile, plays it extensively, and wants it to be the best game in the world. And...it is. And even with the hiccups along the way, it is trending better and better as time goes on, and I can't wait to see what the future holds for PoE 1 & 2.
Maaan this video is Top-Notch! It reminded me with everything i came across in this game which made me on a high!!
Almost 2hours video went like a blink of an eye.
Well done ❤
Wow, just wow! As a few seasons newbie I couldn't ask for better video😮
This is 100% accurate game review. Its more of a build simulator than an arpg. Building is everything, mechanics are kinda secondary.
This is so awesome! Made me nostalgic about some parts.
you did an amaaaazing job with this video; congrats and thank you!
14:01 those sound pack LMAO
I am personally a D4 guy ..but this game has always interested me and I only wish good things for PoE and PoE 2 but while I do not play it I really enjoy watching stuff about it lol
I agree with your take on the vision. I used to think an auction house was the answer. Now realize the cost associated with trading is mecessary and i exploit market inefficiencies to get ahead.
One thing you missed is how they are stingy with loot. Each league the new mechanic is unrewarding. They let it play out for a few weeks and then buff it. Also how mechanics like crucible and scourge could actually make your item worse... I can't support that vision.
This is my favorite thing. Thank you for making this!
really well done video. felt like a mini POE documentary
Very nicely done! And I love hearing some positivity in the PoE Community. Thank you for an exciting watch!
This was not a video, this was a feeling 🗿. Thanks for your effort.
I wish someone made a video like this about other games with rich history and community content, like WoW or Eve Online.
Great video, but you forgot about one thing, interesting aspect of the masters and i really loved if you pointed to it. Let me explain it here, back then when you had masters in your hideout and you could do their dailies where they open portals etc, you could ask their opinion over other masters, and as one of them who was a master for ranger class, i love you to go and check her dialogue. I'm not going to spoil it but i believe it was one of the best characterizes feature about those npc
I haven't watched all the way to the end -- but damn! The flex of beating the Maven during those conditions... Damn. You just punched me in some sensitive bits as I have still not even under good conditions beaten the Maven...
Great video, I have been playing Since PoE had the 3 difficulties. Buddy and me still joke about the Touch of God when you had to kill him 3 different times.
Also I believe you forgot to mention the big Desync issues they had early on. This is what kept me away from the early leagues cause it had lots of rubberbanding with server code.
Yeah, I forgot about the server issues in the earlier years. There was a random chance when entering an instance that it would just kick me out. That and the rubberbanding at other times.
/oos macro ftw
Thanks for taking me 9n this journey.
there was a guy who got lv100 in ssfhc with only the 4 default stash tabs. so it's possible to do alot of stuff without needing to buy a stash tab. it's definitely not pay-to-win. but it's so much quality of life
59:16 - Iconic moment, as a fellow minion player I felt that in my bones
95% of this is surface
I started today (on Ps4 so no planning program sadly) but I actually came from Warhammer 40k Inquisitor and was looking for more ARPGs and the skill tree honestly excites me
1:26:00 A large benefit of the 3rd party tools is, I can have them on my 2nd monitor or just work with them without having to open the game or be held back by maintanence, etc.
I dont see much profit in having an entire tool built into the game. Because at that point, ask yourself how many tabs and menus are you fine with having in your game until it is too much?
Some people play PoE casually. They already have enough to worry about with the giant skill tree. Having a menu as complex as a plane cockpit may not be a wise addition to the game.
And how would you even decide which tools to add? Maybe you only use a trade, build and sth else tool. But what about x or y or z? Would we ignore the people that want those tools, just beause the part of the community using it is small? This gets tricky to manage.
I'd say some annoyances that every single player has to deal with would be better off solved in a different way. Most 3rd party tools are QoL workarounds. Being able to trade your currency automatically with other people, skipping the 1:1 interaction or sth sth sth would probably remove the need for many trade tools.
What about builds? Why not have popular current and past lague build recommendations inside the game under a "community" tab? There you get recommended gems, tips as to what works with what and so on. That would also teach new players details like what is a spell, what is a "hit" what is a "over time" etc. It would be imo more profitable for everyone to have people become smarter over just following a build guide blindly, not knowing why it works.
Didnt read the video description, just clicked play expecting some sort of sort of explanation about the Iceberg map and was quite confused XD
Man I love this vid. That last part was beautiful
Wow. So much info in this video. I still don't understand PoE but this was interesting and looks like you put a lot of work into this video. Nice job.
Bro u gotta play poe wyd bruh one of the best games ever made
Great work sir! Very fresh PoE content that isn’t a tutorial 😂
Fantastic video! I learned so much stuff and now, back to the game! Thank you
Oh man, I remember ultimatum league launch, eventually the community figured out that as long as you didn't go to another zone, you wouldn't get disconnected.
So I did any normal person would do and kept resetting the instance in where I was, that place being crystal mine.
The whole time I was laughing because how bizarre it was to have something like that happen in a league launch
As a result though I got PSTD every time I go to that zone
Am I missing something? Don't you have to enter a new zone to open the menu to reset the instance?
Honestly when I first tried Poe after finishing D4 I saw the skill tree and dipped instantly, then randomly saw a RF jug recommended video and thought it looked fun. I now have over 300 hours in this game Ik it isn’t anything but still glad I got back in
What an amazing video, enjoyed every second and was immersed till the end.
What is the song do you have playing in the background during the final segment of the video? I thoroughly enjoy the entire video, thank you for making this! It's very well-made
Okay, the FIRST song played during the final segment lol
Very well done iceberg video, only played the game for a few hours with a friend of mine. But nonetheless it was fun learning about the stories surrounding the community and patches. Awesome vid
Speaking of reusing assets, one of the TOTA chieftains , namely Kahuturoa is using the same moveset as Blackjaw boss that killed Mark during poe2 presentation. Check for yourself if you dont belive me ;p
Ultimatum is officially back! THIS IS A BUFF
I was able to grind out a headhunter the league before they changed it. It's the single best item I've ever had in any game. It was hilarious how quickly it ramped up out of control. Its always one of the first things i mention to people when i tell them about the game.
1:43:49 , Path of Exile Global does have an in game trade window, but it's only partially functional and only available to console players
Thank you so much for this Iceberg!
If you ever plan on doing a part 2 I would suggest looking into Memory Leak items that exist in standard.
great vid my dude, watched in one breath
Is there any chance of a public release of the Rosen filter?
I downloaded this game last weekend and im stunned. I mean im only just started act 5 but man this game is good.
Dude said never a boat league and it's biat leauge lol
Very good ending to the video and very well said brother. Good job.
Amazing work. I enjoyed every minutes of it.
I would like to clarify something about the chinese only features. The pet is 90 days, and yes, but as I remember it, linked to that league. So you better buy it on the first day. The quick market is a add on purchable feature for your stash tab. So not only do you need to upgrade your stash you also need to buy the feature for that stash. If I remember correctly, and I can't remember if it is was restricted to a single stash per account. I am sure it was not a default premium feature.
And you could not prepare your own tree, if you could I never knew how to do so. You was given 4 options per class. Except scion, you were given 2. Where the last option is: I am making my own build. So it has gear guides and the now infamous tree guides that nobody understands how annoying and great it actually was, unless you have played with it.
I heat too many people talking about the chinese version who have never played it. Hell i heard people translating lanmao (blue hair) (zizaren) into lazy cat. Yes it is prnounced the same, but the context is clear. He had blue hair. Why would they call him "lazy cat" -_-
I am a freaking sinologist and phd in Path of exile. I am making my own builds, crafting my own items, and it is a lie that harvest is not the best for super end game gear, it still very much is. It is just prohibitly expensive so people don't factor it in. I am using fossils, beasts, harvest, ex slamming, essences, fraturing, and more to make my items. And people should really begin to notice how amazing crafting really is in poe. They do not hold your hand, but they do provide you with the tools for you to build your meme man. :-D
At first glance i thought it will be a roast/rant against ggg, judging by the title. I am SO glad i watched the video, because it was the opposite: An explanaition of what PoE was, is and may become.
To answer a question towards viewers from the video:
I would like less third-party liability. Currently i'm ok with the tools and still learn how to better use them, but as a new player i was just confused on why i had to use this and that tool, i only wanted to play 😅
In conclusion... yet to be formulated.
Very nice job! Thanks for all the work done on this video.
Just a correction- chris actually said the lines for bestiary were recorded before blizzcon and the einhar "do you not have nets" was a wild coincidence. Was in an interview during the league. Pretty damn funny though.
It was so funny to me back in Kalandra and the birth of The Vision(tm). Whenever peoiple got lucky, that was because, like other god-touched monsters, they were Vision-touched
Holy... the quin segment 🤣 ICLOWN'T 😂
Very fun and entertaining to listen to while gaming. Smooth 2h.