I really thought - oh no, another video that will just further confuse me. I was wrong! This is the essence of your system. Becoming proficient in these drills is crucial to becoming an efficient ball striker. So glad I watched it.
Awesome I was shanking and could not get the thought out of my brain,this video has me thinking hand and chest through impact so looking forward to curing the shanks forever Great video
“That’s the golf swing!” What a very thorough, detailed, but simple explanation and demonstration! Outstanding! 👏👏. This video is gold and is a must watch for young golfers who are learning the swing and how the hands should move during the swing! Thanks so much for putting together and for sharing. 👊👊
@@markfurlong800 wow! Incredibly generous of you! Thank you so much for the kind words!!! Please let us know any questions that you run into. Would be happy to help where we can! 🙏❤️
This may be the best video yet! My question is how much lead arm supination you want in the downswing? Thinking of David Love Junior's old hitchhikers drill.
The lead arm will supinate but waaaaay late. Preference is after P6 👍👍👍 also we prefer to see more external rotation of the lead humerus as a result of several forces occurring that leaks into lead supination from P6 onward 👍
Shot 1 over today, 4 birdies, just working on chest sway then load left shoulder,about to watch this so thanks for all the great videos,im 63 and hoping to break par b4 i get to old!
The absolutley best Video I have ever seen!! I Had lost my swing, but with this "drill" and the "Tour Striker" ball I was coming back!!! Thank you so much😊
Brother I tried this for the first time today. what a life-changing event. I've been at it every day for 15 years I feel like this was sent from God. Thank ypu
Doing it lifting it up first and then the right wrist back before the shoulder turn I was hitting beautiful full shots but marrying it with a shoulder turn without setting the wrist first is a little difficult. Probably gonna take some time eh? I'll play setting the wrists 1st if I got to!!
What a great day! Just made our day too by you hitting shots like you love! And just work on balancing out the club and the turn to start. Everyone experiences this a bit differently so play with it so it’s easy to transition and work into impact ❤️❤️
Thank you for the CLEAR understanding of how the hands works! A part of the swing that would change for me with every shot because I really had no idea how the hands work . Now to get this into a system that works with the timing of the body . I love the small chunks or parts of the system . Work on them , then apply to the whole part. Great stuff !
Loved how you explained the hands releasing via supination being similar to ulnar deviation, but with the difference being that the wrist is already in extension. All super well explained. I think the biggest challenge for me when working on this movement is having a sense of where I am getting my hands and wrists to through impact. Arguably it is not something one needs to think about however, if I'm practicing these wrist/hand movements but leaking balls right and left for reasons such as having the face slightly too open/closed it is hard to mentally trust the movement. The analogy I would give is that you have expertly described a route to take preceding impact but before a student has managed to execute that movement correctly and feel a solid contact and decent ball flight it is hard to truly gain the full feel/trust in the movement. I can commit to making these movements but loose contact, or conversely force contact by disrupting this movement slightly, so a feel to be moving towards in this way would be really useful. For example, the sorta so-called 'slap release'. Any suggestions on this??
Totally agree with you. I get all the sequencing sessions . But execution is hardest to generate consistency , speed and distance . Maybe I’m just too old now ? 😂
This is a terrific video and clears up numerous misconceptions i had about my hands and arms in my back and forward swing. For 30 years i have felt like i had no clue how my hands and arms should work. I took your ideas to the course and hit some irons like I have never felt before, ball first, thin divots and good ball flight. And a feeling at impact I cannot explain. My only error was i had a tendency to hit straight push shots with longer clubs No fade, just straight push . Any idea? I checked my alignment and my divot is pointed slightly right. Wish this video existed 30 years ago.....
What you are showing appears to me like you are describing a two plane swing. I use pretty much a one plane swing. Back and down with my right elbow moving in front of my right hip . The club does drop some causing the shaft to bisect the right forearm on the down and the face is square to the arc (per video). Am I losing some clubbed speed because I am not letting the club head drop in the manner you are describing? Maybe we are doing the same thing with different concepts. I watch two plane swings by very good golfers and the two planes are often very close to each other much like what I do. I tried doing what you suggest and I had difficulty controlling the direction of my ball flight. I am really reticent to change this part of my swing when what I do works so well for me. Thanks for your response.
I’ve never done that subtle move at the top of the swing, where you change direction with your hands. You do that so naturally. It brings the right elbow in where it belongs.
Funny thing how camera angles work. I was trying to figure out the hands based on a previous Angular Momentum short by Riley, but I couldn't get it. Then, boom! Alex twirls his club off-handedly at 0:56 and I get it. EGS has done it again.
Absolutely! Google Ben Hogan plane and you'll see a picture of a sheet of glass indicating the plane that we're referring to. The only difference is the modification of the plane we're referring to in the video and where its placed.
Another home run video. Not sure, but it could be a little misleading and require just a little explanation regarding how-when the trail wrist goes into it's fullest point of extension while the clubhead goes through these shapes. That is, I feel that the trail wrist goes into fullest extension inactively (during the process of the club shaft goes from vertical towards horizontal). So it starts deepening extension reactively as the club's center of mass falls back below the backswing's swing plane AND reactively goes nto a bit deeper extension as the club falls further behind the back (while shaft completes getting to that "cuts the upper body in half"visual). Furthermore, after "getting cut in half" I feel the supination is reactive-inactive also and that the trail wrist inactively-reactively reaches its full extension upon the supination going as far as it needs to in order to let the clubhead fall enough so it can reach the ball. Lmk if I am misunderstanding anything here - or if this is just my own personal way of doing-feeling. I can tell you that I am flushing it dependably with my manageable misses being a bit leaky-right which I understand now to be from over-supinating a bit - but a FAR more manageable miss than my old overcooks to the left!
@11:01 "...easiest thing in the world to effect, just move your divot forward." How do you move the divot forward? I believe it will be through rib sway. Is that right?
Great video but I have an anatomy knit pick - the head of the radius (or radial head) is at the elbow. The radial head rotation is the joint that allows for pronation and supination. -- Also a way to remember "pronation" is to lay "prone" is to lay face down.
Definitely worth focusing on... however, everyone feels this a bit differently. It may be worth your while to check out our global golf swing video (one of our first 5 vids). It goes over this concept and can help to add better context.
One of my biggest issues is not hinging vertically, then to get the club up I end up lifting my trail arm...gets everything out of wack. In this exercise, you turn and then hinge, but I feel like I still lift my arm if I don't start to hinge vertically almost immediately? Is there any issue with this to look out for?
This is really cool. I'm still confused about one thing. How you can supinate the right forearm through impact while making sure the club doesn't stay wide open? It seems that at some point we need to pronate the right forearm to square the club. It can't be all body rotation right?
There certainly is SOME pronation to square the face. No doubt in that. Whether that’s active or passive is what we are really interested in, and for most people, pronation is a passive result of how the club forces operate through impact
Q: In the hands video you talk about having some pronation of the trail wrist going back. You didn't mention it here... Is that used as adjustment for various grip strenght then? THanks.
@@elitegolfschools at p4 i drop pelvis, sway lead rib and use supernation trail wrist. But i unload p7 feel i cant finish my left wrist. If i try do that i pain... i dont know why
@@ducngocducngoc7421 interesting for sure... just know that you can overdo any movement, to the point where pain can arise. I think a good general feel for you is to simply sense that you are tossing the club over your lead shoulder just like you would a bag of apples/potatoes. In essence, once you've arrived to P5, turn the midline to finish and 'toss' the club over your lead shoulder. Should neutralize a lot of that left wrist pain. Keep us posted.
"The human brain can process 11 million bits of information every second. But our conscious minds can handle only 40 to 50 bits of information a second" Less than 1/4 second from top of BS to Impact. ie less than 10 bits of information in our conscious mind, in 1/4 second. There is time for a singular intention at top of BS before the DS begins.
I really thought - oh no, another video that will just further confuse me. I was wrong! This is the essence of your system. Becoming proficient in these drills is crucial to becoming an efficient ball striker. So glad I watched it.
Fantastic!!! So happy you enjoyed!
Awesome I was shanking and could not get the thought out of my brain,this video has me thinking hand and chest through impact so looking forward to curing the shanks forever
Great video
Truly ELITE video. My son is now just over a month old and once he’s able this will be one of the first things I show him. Keep crushing it, gents.
Love it man!!
“That’s the golf swing!” What a very thorough, detailed, but simple explanation and demonstration! Outstanding! 👏👏. This video is gold and is a must watch for young golfers who are learning the swing and how the hands should move during the swing! Thanks so much for putting together and for sharing. 👊👊
Wonderful!! So happy you liked and got some nuggets! Keep us posted!
Great tutorial. For me, you guys are the best out there to educate people on how to swing the golf club. 👏🏻 ⛳️ ⭐️
@@markfurlong800 wow! Incredibly generous of you! Thank you so much for the kind words!!! Please let us know any questions that you run into. Would be happy to help where we can! 🙏❤️
These videos are soo good! I've seen a lot of youtube golf instruction and your explanations really resonate.
So glad you enjoyed bro, appreciate it
I have been trying to piece this together for the last two months this video with the last two have helped. Thanks Tim
So happy you made gains!!! Please let us know when you have any questions! Would love to help where we can
This is the level of detail i need to swing the club. Thanks guys
Thanks for watching 🙏
Thank u gentlemen. I have not seen a more descriptive video on the wrist movement thru entire swing. Ur view is descriptive and simplified.
Thank you for the kind words!! Glad you enjoyed!!
This is a very good video that clears up a whole lot of stuff - things like wrist & arm movements, plane and the swing. Thanks 👍🏼👍🏼
Fantastic!! ❤️❤️
This may be the best video yet! My question is how much lead arm supination you want in the downswing? Thinking of David Love Junior's old hitchhikers drill.
The lead arm will supinate but waaaaay late. Preference is after P6 👍👍👍 also we prefer to see more external rotation of the lead humerus as a result of several forces occurring that leaks into lead supination from P6 onward 👍
Love it boys. Solid video once again.
Thanks T
Bro. What excellent information. And what you said about Jack Nicholas' waggle brought it all home
Let’s go! Shapes baby!
Shot 1 over today, 4 birdies, just working on chest sway then load left shoulder,about to watch this so thanks for all the great videos,im 63 and hoping to break par b4 i get to old!
Wonderful graham! Love to hear it!
The absolutley best Video I have ever seen!! I Had lost my swing, but with this "drill" and the "Tour Striker" ball I was coming back!!! Thank you so much😊
Fantastic! Thanks for watching!
Brother I tried this for the first time today. what a life-changing event. I've been at it every day for 15 years I feel like this was sent from God. Thank ypu
Doing it lifting it up first and then the right wrist back before the shoulder turn I was hitting beautiful full shots but marrying it with a shoulder turn without setting the wrist first is a little difficult. Probably gonna take some time eh? I'll play setting the wrists 1st if I got to!!
What a great day! Just made our day too by you hitting shots like you love! And just work on balancing out the club and the turn to start. Everyone experiences this a bit differently so play with it so it’s easy to transition and work into impact ❤️❤️
Thank you for the CLEAR understanding of how the hands works! A part of the swing that would change for me with every shot because I really had no idea how the hands work .
Now to get this into a system that works with the timing of the body .
I love the small chunks or parts of the system . Work on them , then apply to the whole part. Great stuff !
Thanks so much!
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Great body and hand demo video tips
Thanks so much!!!
The breakdown of hand movement coupled with chest rotation is eye opening 😮
Right on!!!! 👍
Loved how you explained the hands releasing via supination being similar to ulnar deviation, but with the difference being that the wrist is already in extension. All super well explained. I think the biggest challenge for me when working on this movement is having a sense of where I am getting my hands and wrists to through impact. Arguably it is not something one needs to think about however, if I'm practicing these wrist/hand movements but leaking balls right and left for reasons such as having the face slightly too open/closed it is hard to mentally trust the movement. The analogy I would give is that you have expertly described a route to take preceding impact but before a student has managed to execute that movement correctly and feel a solid contact and decent ball flight it is hard to truly gain the full feel/trust in the movement. I can commit to making these movements but loose contact, or conversely force contact by disrupting this movement slightly, so a feel to be moving towards in this way would be really useful. For example, the sorta so-called 'slap release'. Any suggestions on this??
All wonderful thoughts! I think a lot of these questions could be answered in our video on how to practice in our video vault 👍
@@elitegolfschools thanks for the suggestion. I will revisit the video with this in mind. 🤙🏻
Totally agree with you. I get all the sequencing sessions . But execution is hardest to generate consistency , speed and distance . Maybe I’m just too old now ? 😂
@@elitegolfschoolsWhere is the video vault ?
@@blueeyes6192 not too old at all! And a ton of the speed is in the efficiency of the ball based on the speed of the club. Attack that first
This is a terrific video and clears up numerous misconceptions i had about my hands and arms in my back and forward swing. For 30 years i have felt like i had no clue how my hands and arms should work. I took your ideas to the course and hit some irons like I have never felt before, ball first, thin divots and good ball flight. And a feeling at impact I cannot explain. My only error was i had a tendency to hit straight push shots with longer clubs No fade, just straight push . Any idea? I checked my alignment and my divot is pointed slightly right. Wish this video existed 30 years ago.....
What you are showing appears to me like you are describing a two plane swing. I use pretty much a one plane swing. Back and down with my right elbow moving in front of my right hip . The club does drop some causing the shaft to bisect the right forearm on the down and the face is square to the arc (per video). Am I losing some clubbed speed because I am not letting the club head drop in the manner you are describing? Maybe we are doing the same thing with different concepts. I watch two plane swings by very good golfers and the two planes are often very close to each other much like what I do. I tried doing what you suggest and I had difficulty controlling the direction of my ball flight. I am really reticent to change this part of my swing when what I do works so well for me. Thanks for your response.
I’ve never done that subtle move at the top of the swing, where you change direction with your hands. You do that so naturally. It brings the right elbow in where it belongs.
Excellent
Thank you! Cheers!
Funny thing how camera angles work. I was trying to figure out the hands based on a previous Angular Momentum short by Riley, but I couldn't get it. Then, boom! Alex twirls his club off-handedly at 0:56 and I get it. EGS has done it again.
Thanks so much man! All about them angles
Thanks. Can you please elaborate on the sheet of glass reference?
Absolutely! Google Ben Hogan plane and you'll see a picture of a sheet of glass indicating the plane that we're referring to. The only difference is the modification of the plane we're referring to in the video and where its placed.
Great video! Ya man That’s the good stuff.
Riley .. you could be a kicker for nfl with those legs
Tree trunks 💪
How does the strength or weakness of the lead wrist on the grip affect these trail wrist motions?
Another home run video. Not sure, but it could be a little misleading and require just a little explanation regarding how-when the trail wrist goes into it's fullest point of extension while the clubhead goes through these shapes. That is, I feel that the trail wrist goes into fullest extension inactively (during the process of the club shaft goes from vertical towards horizontal). So it starts deepening extension reactively as the club's center of mass falls back below the backswing's swing plane AND reactively goes nto a bit deeper extension as the club falls further behind the back (while shaft completes getting to that "cuts the upper body in half"visual). Furthermore, after "getting cut in half" I feel the supination is reactive-inactive also and that the trail wrist inactively-reactively reaches its full extension upon the supination going as far as it needs to in order to let the clubhead fall enough so it can reach the ball. Lmk if I am misunderstanding anything here - or if this is just my own personal way of doing-feeling. I can tell you that I am flushing it dependably with my manageable misses being a bit leaky-right which I understand now to be from over-supinating a bit - but a FAR more manageable miss than my old overcooks to the left!
So a little ulnar deviation is good, almost like a little cast around p6?
Thank you!
Yes, you got it!
@11:01 "...easiest thing in the world to effect, just move your divot forward."
How do you move the divot forward? I believe it will be through rib sway. Is that right?
COM of the ribs at P7 is what should influence a consistent bottom out the most 👍
100% with Jack's move. Makes perfect sense
👌
Great video but I have an anatomy knit pick - the head of the radius (or radial head) is at the elbow. The radial head rotation is the joint that allows for pronation and supination. -- Also a way to remember "pronation" is to lay "prone" is to lay face down.
Thank you for sharing your expertise 🙏
Is a video on blending the turn and the shape worth focusing on? It’s shown as two independent movements which is fine in slow mo but not real swings?
Definitely worth focusing on... however, everyone feels this a bit differently. It may be worth your while to check out our global golf swing video (one of our first 5 vids). It goes over this concept and can help to add better context.
One of my biggest issues is not hinging vertically, then to get the club up I end up lifting my trail arm...gets everything out of wack. In this exercise, you turn and then hinge, but I feel like I still lift my arm if I don't start to hinge vertically almost immediately? Is there any issue with this to look out for?
This is really cool. I'm still confused about one thing. How you can supinate the right forearm through impact while making sure the club doesn't stay wide open? It seems that at some point we need to pronate the right forearm to square the club. It can't be all body rotation right?
There certainly is SOME pronation to square the face. No doubt in that. Whether that’s active or passive is what we are really interested in, and for most people, pronation is a passive result of how the club forces operate through impact
Q: In the hands video you talk about having some pronation of the trail wrist going back. You didn't mention it here... Is that used as adjustment for various grip strenght then? THanks.
For sure it is and that amount of pronation is generally small. It’s just meant to shut the face the appropriate amount 🙏🙏
Would you also follow this same method for the driver?
Absolutely 👍
Just curious how to know the low point of this kind of swing? same as the traditional swing?
Sternum will dictate low point through our system 🙏
Dude... the Jack Nicklaus waggle comment makes so much sense.
Right??
To add to my question, hands in club out with that 45degree hinge on the takeaway
9:20 I've hit about 32,000 "wipe cuts" in my golfing life LOL!!
Right??
Pls help me...i dont know why i have gain left wrist at p7-p9. I did supernation at P5...
Sorry man, help me out… what do you mean by gain left wrist??
@@elitegolfschools at p4 i drop pelvis, sway lead rib and use supernation trail wrist. But i unload p7 feel i cant finish my left wrist. If i try do that i pain... i dont know why
@@ducngocducngoc7421 interesting for sure... just know that you can overdo any movement, to the point where pain can arise. I think a good general feel for you is to simply sense that you are tossing the club over your lead shoulder just like you would a bag of apples/potatoes. In essence, once you've arrived to P5, turn the midline to finish and 'toss' the club over your lead shoulder. Should neutralize a lot of that left wrist pain. Keep us posted.
@@elitegolfschools i got it. Amazing explain bro. Thank you..
@@ducngocducngoc7421 of course and please keep us posted!!!!
Excellent Gentlemen , But Jacks the Goat!😊 have heard Dog wags the tail not tail wags the Dog in backswing .
Love that!
@@elitegolfschools 👍❤️
Some golf teachers say push down with your left hand to get 45 degree wrist hinge as you take the club back low. Your thoughts on that please
Yes, I would say that matches with what we are describing here. That’s what gets the clubface riding above the plane 🙏
"The human brain can process 11 million bits of information every second. But our conscious minds can handle only 40 to 50 bits of information a second"
Less than 1/4 second from top of BS to Impact.
ie less than 10 bits of information in our conscious mind, in 1/4 second.
There is time for a singular intention at top of BS before the DS begins.
Totally agree!!
Ti Wo was recently asked what's his best golf instructional tip. He said STOP watching RUclips golf instruction videos. Amen