New Multitools! (Suspiciously similar & surprisingly good)
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- Опубликовано: 12 мар 2024
- Oooooh Boy, this is going to be a hot topic....probably legal...but ethical??
SQT2048
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I have not used the SQT tools but I do carry a Bibury almost exclusively now. The two biggest selling points were the standard bit driver and it's cost. The quality of the clones has just reached a point where I can't justify spending $150 when I can get ALMOST the same thing for $30.
i'm just glad to see more manufacturers putting serrated blades on multitools
My Surge was stolen and I bought a titanium 19 in 1 Rocktol-another Chinese clone. Very happy with it so far. Very similar to a Wave at half the price.
Honestly I want them to clone the smaller ones. ie the Squirt, the Juice S2. :D I find the smaller ones more useful for EDC. Or if some nut makes a Gerber Dime in magnacut, I'd totally buy it.
This.. I have an ES4 and a couple of the PS4 models and I was planning on getting one of the Juice Models until they discontinued them and then the 2ndry market price gouge wars. I won't buy another Leatherman because they are a lot more money then I can justify without a direct need for one.
yep, they should clone the style ps too.
NexTool has a couple mini multitools that are near that size.
Yes definitely 100% 🎉
squirt clone and style ps would actually sell ..i’m not paying 60$ for a knock off i can get a wave for 80$
Well the market will always come up with answers to blatant price gouging.
like child sweat shops
@@JR-lg7fdleather man overcharges a lot. For 1lb of stainless steel 304 series, the price is $0.66, which is cheap.
@@JR-lg7fdyeah, just like every model but one.
Support American labor and manufacturing
Only when they support the American people. I’m not a cow for milking.
The Mossy Oaks is a pretty damn good copy for $23 and Project Farm gave it a thumbs 👍 for quality.
I once read a comment that said “I don’t care about american made, i’m not american” as a rebuttal to someone complaining about these flagrant clones, i realized..
It’s not at all bad if clones are getting good. The consumer wins from the competition, always.
SQT written in a very similar SOG typography 🤔
Yep, that was the first thing I noticed, too.
Didn't even notice 😅
probably because it's the cheapest way to get your own name on the tool while it is all produced the same fabric.
Many of those companies just ignore writing their name on their tool to save even more money.
But it can also be on the purpose as it appears that SOG got quite a name value.
I’m noticing that almost all of the Chinese multitools are in the 9.5 oz range. I’d love to see more offerings in the 6.8 oz (Rebar) range - a little smaller, a little lighter for the summer cargo shorts crowd. I get why they all want to mimic the Wave (and that other titanium multitool) though.
I’m looking forward to when you’ve had them for three months and done some proper testing.
We need them to make the crunch. I know there was a clone at one point but its long gone
These are more of a Wave/Charge competitior (liner locks, inside tools) with P4 style pliers and either P4 or Charge style handles. The P4/Arc function completely differently with all outside tools, unique lock style and magnet closure.
Im amazed by that tool set
Amazing tool set 👏 scissors on outside file inside and an awl! Wow, wow wow!!!!🎉
thank you for this! i just purchased this as my first multitool for EDCing. price point wise, i don't mind loosing it!
EDC? Quite heavy for an EDC if you ask me.
I would be interested if it works out for you. I only carry my Multitool around when knowing I could have a use for it. But I have a way lighter pocket knife always with me. That then is also legal when driving over a certain boarder 😅
leatherman had it coming for all those clones, I personally don't need one but if I did I wouldn't hesitate.
That play in the handles is the same on the Leatherman curl.
Already ordered that beauty:)
I love mine I carry it every day !
TBF even the Leatherman Free series have that play when closed due to the teflon washers.
Thanks for sharing.
I’d buy one! 💰👀
While looking them up I found their version of the Surge, T-shank adapter and all. Including 2 saw blades, bit kit and spare wire cutters for like 44 bucks. Guess what I'm getting if only to throw in an outdoor bag.
Bibury has the same
I got my sqt 2048a 2 days ago with full intentions of replacing the wood saw with the t-shank adapter from my Rocktol SK05 but now I'm having second thoughts....that saw is vicious!
The sqt is actually everything i prefer and therefore can't find anything to mod to it.
I did add a magnet to the driver and added a nite eyes pocket clip...but I think it's everything I want
After watching your video, I picked up the Titanium coated model and I am pretty impressed with it. I do not think anybody is going to mistake it for a Charge though. It sort of reminds me of a 15 in 1 Workpro Multitool I picked up years ago that looked like a Surge. It was not sold for very long and was a monster of a tool at over 12 ounces! The other one you show there looks like the Shall tool I bought a few weeks ago. The scales may look like a P4, but it is nothing like a P4. As far as being legal or ethical, I do not see a problem with these "Leatherman Inspired" tools as long as they are not exact copies or are counterfeits with the Leatherman name on them. This is nothing new as companies have been making multitools like the Gerber Suspension for many years and look how many knife manufacturers (Chinese and American) made knives like the Buck 110.
Theres no problem with people making clones as long as they are not marketing them as the genuine item and there is nothing companies can do about it if its not violating a patent and even then winning in court against a chinese company wont mean much since chineses companies change names like there going out of style
They look good, but how well will they perform, their durability....
they made them for over 5 years on same manufacturing line, maybe more: good pliers, saws and scissors, bad or not so bad files
Poorer steels.
I found something that looks like the b\bury you showed, but it's 45$ and it's branded "Energo"...
Waaaay too much
Quality issues for some of you probably because you’re fixing cars or farm equipment or door latches on airlines. I’m just using as an EDC. After 2 leathermans (at $100 a pop) stolen at work when I layed it down for sec I’m happy to buy these. Just bought 2 with your links. Thanks brother.
Cheers!
Personalmente me gusta la selección de herramientas de estas nuevas marcas.
Posee navaja Lisa y serrada, punzón, controlador de bits de 1/4" con seguro.... excelente.
Gracias por tus videos.
Saludos
all these multitools (bibury, sqt, daicamping, etc.) are made in one factory (maybe even roxon, gerber and sog?).
You can make your own multitool brand and order a batch of whatever you want from them with your own logo brand on it.
I could, but it wouldn't feel right
@@maxlvledcIt is always possible to design your own multitool, with their technical background ;)
Question is always how long are they good in terms of steel quality. A "Rebar" knock off would be nice
The scissors resistance is too strong and the spring even pops out as I use it. Not sure if you have the same problem. these are same the scissors as the Bibury but Bibury's works better
When you do the teardown, please weigh & test the "titanium" scales to check if they aren"t just titanium coated alloy.
If you use a dremel on the rear of the scale and there's a LOT of white sparks it's true titanium. The SQT box does say "titanium alloy" though. ...
I broke one down yesterday and did that. It is definitely titanium.
@@thisfishsmellsgood4084 Cheers 👍
And they come with 60 years no question warranty!!
Exactly, it would be nice to put them all on the table like the older video budget tool 2 years ago ?
I just saw this one on the Hvac budget video but you showed 2 models, Interesting ! The free one style mixed with the charge is blatantly curious, i wouls go for the titanium version.
Nice vid as usual, keep it up Dom !
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What kind/size magnet to use in the bit driver to allow for one sided 1/4" bits?
1/4 in diameter (Just google 1/4 magnet)
6 mm round by 2 mm thick.
The cynic in me says these will show up as counterfit Leatherman on Amazon. Amazon has been sued multiple times for selling counterfeit goods.
Dom:
1) Does anyone make a diamond file that will fit in the standard blade slot in the Buybury w/serrated/pull cutter blade?
2) What bit do you need to take that one apart?
3) Would the Serrated/pull cutter blade, work in the Free P2?
1, yes! The hammer tools have one. 2, basic torx 3, no
@@maxlvledc Thanks! Do you know of a supplier who will sell just the loose file?
"R&D" in China stands for "Receive And Duplicate"
Well they did wait 20 years till the patents expired lol
Honestly, a lot of these tools are more “creative”. The combination of different implements gives consumers so many options
Honestly, same with everything on temu. It's scary but how can anyone argue with the current economic climate here in the USA. I can't afford a 230 dollar multi tool rn
I mean the different name, steel type and a couple different tool placements does make it distinctly different regardless of the other 98% "inspiration".
Do you know if the thumb studs for the Charge will fit on the clone?
Mate, can you share the model of this Splitman? Daicamping is full of these models, but SQT is hard to find, and I have the impression that Splitman has raised the bar a bit higher.
Instead of buying the Klein bits at $5 a bit get the Dewalt bit kit for $11 that comes with 4 bits and some fun extras for a standard locking style bit holder.
It would be cool to know if the blades and tools are interchangeable with a certain brand it’s flattering
They are definitely not
Do the cutters cut or do they have “THE NOTCH”?
They work perfectly
@@maxlvledc may have to grab one then. 😁
I'm just wondering if these have been "Rigorously" tested to see if they hold up to a Leatherman or other top brands.
I dont know what constitutes the "rigorously" standard but I carry a budget multi-tool and use it numerous times a day as an aircraft mechanic. I've had zero issues with mine in the 4 months (ish) that ive had it. I quit carrying my leatherman in favor of it actually. Im not going to be upset If i break it.
My biggest fear...they crush leatherman.
I'd say everyday usage qualifies
@maxlvledc : Question: I bought a 'ARC' from Ricks and the Diamond File was Worn Out and had no Bits in it, (thinking it was returned), is there any way to get a new File for it???
No, send it back....that's woerd
As in no driver bits?
@@GeertSawek Yeah, no bits and used up Diamond File.
Are the pliers, springloaded?
Nope
01:00 no, you can clearly see they stand closed.
5:50 Tbh, I think Leatherman is completely disregarding people's feelings with their pricing, lol
They sell out regardless......F our feelings, respectfully😂
When the free p4 and p2 were released and i saw the price and toolset i honestly was asking the question of who thought a file shorter then your pinkie is useful, no bit driver, 3 flathead screwdrivers, a leatherman wingman/sidekick qualty 2d philips head(seriously a budget grade driver on a "premium" tool), a joke for an awl, and not shipping with a pocket clip...yeah thanks leatherman you really made it loud and clear that these tools were "minimum viable product" but hey that "free technology" of putting in magnetic detent cause apparently magnets are "Technology" according to marketing heads.
@@deykno87I mean I can sell out of anything if I wanted to. Selling out isn't really a useful metric.
I was gonna grab someone a birthday present. Its between a leatherman bond or a chinese titanium charge knock off im not sure of anything anymore.
Hmm, bond imo
@maxlvledc agreed the files on the knock off look as useless as the free p4 one.
I love how I can look up reviews of knives/tools from The James Brand, and all the comments are bitching about how it's a lifestyle brand that obscenely upcharges their knives. And then I can come here and all the comments about how Leatherman tools are overpriced are met with a "Made in America" circle jerk.
I so wanna see a black baby surge with a deep pocket clip. The one company whos abble to put that up will make so much money !
get rekt leatherguy
I'd rather pay more for Leatherman or Victorinox. I have more faith in the materials and manufacturing aspect. Time will tell, but that's where I am right now. And I'm not afraid to buy Chinese made, case in point, my Chaves Ultramar Redencion Street, but that's because the reputation is there.
The Chaves is made by Reate and they make very high quality knives.
I'll take a Reate over Benchmade all day.
Agree, if it is a work or edc tool that has daily use. However for something like a car kit that gets used a handful of times each year something like this is perfect
Well since leather man have m made them really expensive, here we are!
This or dai camping dl30? This Is the question
Lestherman is grtting too expensive for the average person. I'm done buying them untill prices come down.
Bibury o sqt? Which one is the best in your opinion?
I'd still go bibury
Aliexpress here I come! If the pricing was closer I might make a different decision lol
Some people are collecting, some need the flag there are also quality issues so leatherman won’t worry.
I would be curious to hear someone at LM say they don't worry. LM also has quality issues in their line up so it's not like they are protected by the quality gods. I have ordered 4 of these clones now and not a single one has had a quality issue that I needed to return it for. I have carried a LM daily since 2003 and their products served me great in that time. These clones really have reached a point where I am fully confident carrying a clone as my EDC. (and I do) LM is probably a bit worried in the long term because of that. I had zero desire to spend $230 on the ARC and that's because these clones have got that good recently.
I can’t decide if I want to pick up the SOG Power Access for $36 on Ali Express or the SQT 2048 on Amazon for $39. What do you all think?
Most of the Chinese multitools are heavyweight tanks and not pocket friendly. They’re good for your car or camping or a fishing trip, (places where you might lose it). As long as the tools are good, let the world have all the multitools, (it doesn’t matter where they’re from!)
What is the name and model of the one with the hook cutter?
Links in description
I'm downloading aliexpress right now because of this video
Plz use PayPal or similar...put something between your credit card and them just in case
To tell you the truth the bit driver is better. 2D is not the way to go. I know a certain other company has thrown in with those the few i have used are not worth carrying
SQT or Harbor Freightt?
Wish someone would clone my Juice S2. My original is nearly worn out.
If these guys could use a decent blade steel, these would be a lot more enticing.
My take: multitools are not proper tools, they're not supposed to replace one. So if they are good enough in "emergencies", I'll go for the one that doesn't require me to financially plan for, no matter where it comes from. Moreover, nowadays a device that costs ten times more (in Brazil, at least) will NEVER be ten times better than the "alternative".
Fact
They are trying to... oh wait... even the box is very close. Come on China... you could change the box colors.
At least ship it in a Funk Suede looking red box.
Hot topic yes. Legal? Most likely yes, there are enough differences that they can't be considered clones, even the one with the Leatherman Free style markings on the handles. Ethical? That's debatable. The market is already oversaturated with cheap and mostly crap multitools from China made by a handful of factories under a thousand different brand names and styles. But, throwing some more into the mix that a casual observer might mistake for a Leatherman could be an ethical issue. Either way I still prefer the real deal. I have been a Leatherman user going on 30 years now and have never had one let me down once. I doubt I could say the same about these SQT things.
I hope they put out a ratchet bit driver clone. I am tired of leathermans games. No reason they cant put the drivers out after almost 2 years, except for B.S. limited releases.
China, please stop getting better and better... i cant offort more and more clones 😂
Made in China just took another level ! I dont want to piss anybody here but yiu know what.. keep sleeping leatherman, the quality is almost there soon.
How long before leatherman goes to bankrupt ??
Get a break. My Leatherman charge plus is not perfect. I have a wiggle on serrated blade. I don’t think Chinese tools can be worse…. I think they can be easily better
That is what scares me
I'm more surprised by your surprise. Face it - multi-tools aren't very complicated in their manufacture (they're closer to low-tech really) and China builds some very high-tech products.
Facts
I luv it but I'm a clone guy financially speaking
I cant wait for a Free P2 clone since leatherman cant be asked to keep them in stock. Leatherman is falling behind in the space in the same way Verizon did. Theyve been the best for too long and their offerings have suffered from not needing to compete.
These SHOULD be cheaper than the originals. They don't have any development costs they need to recoup when you take someone else's design and send it overseas to be replicated. It's one of the more frustrating things with global retailers lately and there doesn't seem to be a way to police this. Some OEMs try to sue, but that costs them even more money to protect their products from being undercut by unethical competitors. This is not a case where the market controls pricing based on competition. This is theft. Buying these from Aliexpress is double theft. One company stealing the design and another stealing your personal data and credit card info.
Didn’t the patents expire? It’s not theft that’s how the system is designed. You get the patent time to make back your development costs, then we all benefit by having the tech open up.
I mean thats what pushed leatherman to release the magnet stuff. That’s how it works. Patents expire so you can’t sit on your butt forever.
Lol
😂😂😂 as a consumer I go for quality vs price and make decisions. Who care copy or original. The stronger china become, they better for world consumer. Westerners also copy gun powder and compass from the east. I also no problem 😂😂😂😂
Patents last for 20 years. Are you saying you haven't seen blatant rip offs all over the place and you believe these are all expired patents? @@afoolishman12
Didn’t Leatherman blatantly rip off Tale of Knives on their leather holster ? I mean I guess you get what’s coming
Oooo, carma...
I didn’t know this
They need to be good, not “good for the price”, since you’re implying they either can’t be used to their fullest or if so you’ll have to buy three of them for when they quickly break. That being said, if Leatherman wouldn’t have stupidly kept raising their pricing to crazy amounts in the last few years we wouldn’t even be seeing these clones.
I can't make the first claim...without any quantitative testing
Simple. Just do a real honest test in durability between them. These Chinese pirate clones and the Leatherman brand. Then let us compare feelings.
Part of me is scared it will kick the shit out of Leatherman...my heart can't take it.
@@maxlvledc just wing it if project farm can do it you too can
Once they drop an arc clone Leatherman is done
Can't clone magnacut .... the price is the price
Clones don’t equal quantity. Just because something looks good doesn’t necessarily mean it is.
I think they have a patent on FREE technology for like 20 years still
Tempting, but this just feels wrong
why?
And Jesus said, "choose labour conditions in accordance with the golden rule". I like to quote fictional communists.
Why does bro pronounce it ollie express
I did???
Not buying it.
You talk too slow and you're attempt to build suspense.But you actually make me want to get out of here
Cheap materials, You could be surrprised in emergency situation
Stop buying Chinese garbage. Support American ingenuity and brands.
I’m with you. I’ll pay to see USA on the pliers.
The American arrogance that has ignored feedback for more than a decade?? I wish Leatherman would wake up, I'm still rooting for them.
@@maxlvledc I’m with you on LM. They got complacent over the years now with their patents running out they do indeed need to shift gears.
I’m all for a budget multi tool, they have a place for certain people. But I can honestly say I have never picked up one of these Chinese multi tools that feels as well made and tight as my Free P4. You pay for it but you can literally feel the premiumness of it in your hand.