Yup, this is an amazing tool. Only reason its not my edc is I like the look of a more trad looking knife but id be lying if it wasnt the most functional thing ive used. The screwdriver is so good... it really feels like a full size tool in the hand.
@@aarondougherty236 You just blew my mind buddy! I didn't even know that but I see it now. Wow! I should have looked at the back of the box when I bought it huh?
The fastback is a beast. They could slim it down a bit, but ive used and abused it for several years at work with zero problems. No tool required to change the blade.
" Its not the length of your blade, its how you use it" :) I actually prefer a boxcutter that exposes only 1/2 the blade, seems as if I get 2X the use from it
It's a pain to cut those plastic pallet ribbons with a short blade though. That's the #1 reason I would love a knife like this with more blade exposed...
That is the only Fastback I have never bought. Since they started making it I see shorts and videos about it and for whatever reason I havent bought one yet. And i've owned a ton over the years.
ok, then it also needs to store spare blades, which are also accessible without a tool or a tool on the knife...such a dumb argument. Either, A - this is a pocket utility knife for EDC, in which case a stash of blades and tool in the backpack/car/desk is perfectly acceptable because you aren't doing heavy cutting all day. Or B - This is a toolbox knife for heavy cutting and regular replacement, in which case, IT'S IN ATOOLBOX FFS! keep ur tool and blades handy there. What? You don't have a t7 in your toolbox? There are legit arguments against this knife as toolbox utility knife. And a coinslot or thumb screw like other models would be better. But the existence of a screw is not one of them. And it being a T7 isn't either. But biggest "Duh" of all, this is clearly designed as an EDC.
Besides the Civivi being slightly too small, it is almost a perfect utility knife. Knocks all the others out of the park. The issue isn't the screw (T8 not T7 btw). It is the blade that came with it. You need a wider blade, so there is no gap between the blade edge and the frame that holds it. I changed to a Stanley blade that fits snug and no issues since of blade flying out.
As someone who gets a ton of use out of my utility knives imma have to disagree. The perfect utility knife is the fast back by a mile. Tool free blade change, fast deployment, comfortable grip, mine has a bit driver that i use all the time, has a flat head bit so you always have a pry bar, seatbelt cutter that u use to bust open bags of insulation or plastic wrap, bottle opener too, i use that because its common to run into glass bottle Mexican cokes on site from the roach coach. Its such a well designed and well thought out tool and it’s useful literally every day since i got it. Im a drywaller and i have a dedicated large utility knife for cutting in comfort and cutting sheetrock is rough on these things but the fast back never had the blade pop out or anything even with that rough of a task. Its worth the few millimeters of pocket space you lose to have something so useful
@jimboneutron8399 I definitely understand where you are coming from and why you would like the fastback over this, but for me personally, I prefer something like civivi. I always carry a BID inline screwdriver with all the bits I need, plus a small pry in other pockets, so I have no issues looking for a bit to change blades or something to pry. I use the Civivi to cut plasterboard, old silicon, and boxes with no issue of the blade coming out, so it is already much better than all the others I have with a quick release. Plus, I have no need for a seatbelt cutter or bottle opener, so for me, I find the Civivi pretty perfect.
Utility knives are the most dangerous knives we use. Because we don't care if we break the blade because they're disposable, so we put undo force on them.
Put one in my thigh while at work. First day of turkey season too. Healed up fine, just looks like a vag.. wife was pissed I didn’t get stitches but I don’t wanna pay that bill.
I used the Workpro back when I was a wine vendor (cut average 500-800 boxes a day) and honestly, that lil thing was a beast. Worked flawlessly and being able to open it one handed and still being slim, made for a convenient tool to have on person while still in professional attire. I still carry it sometimes over my other knifes because of the replaceable blade feature.
WorkPro razor knives are magnetic stainless steel and are manufactured with four variations , Red , Green , Blue , and Satin stainless . All newer versions have a push button lock , opened and closed . Though made in China they are quality . 3 / $20.00 Amazon 8/30/24 . You will be happy with these !
Tell me you’re an elder millennial without telling me you’re an elder millennial. “I worked at circuit city…” 😂 Love this, Aaron! I was at the Blade HQ store reopening and like that Civivi option, minus the points about the T7. Nice to be able to handle it in hand.
Yeah, I was excited about the Elementum utility knife, as I currently carry a Elementum II button lock. I have been carrying a Milwaukee Fastback, with the extra blade holder option, for years for work with ZERO complaints. However, the thought of a cool EDC matched pair from Civivi was intriguing. Your review, and several others finding the same issues, have convinced me to skip this one until some serious improvements are made. What a shame. Thanks for the honest and comprehensive review, best one I’ve seen yet.
for a little knife that stays in the pocket all the time, the Oknife Otacle is great, but the Fastback better ergonomically if you are using it all the time and do not care about the bulk. I had the gerber, liked the idea of a tiny knife that is always sharp, but the deployment is so slow, also the blade it comes with is thicker than regular razor blades, so anything off the shelf will wobble some. The Oknife is very fun to fidgit with. The Fastback, not so much, it is a work tool.
Thanks for the review/warning, Aaron. You put me onto the WorkPros a while back, and I've never looked back. I always have either one of those or a DuraTech (same thing, essentially, but black) on me. Small, thin, light, solid construction, surprisingly fidgety, surprisingly ergonomic, can get a full grip on them so you can apply good pressure, and when I got mine, about $6 a pop. Also, the blade stays secure until changed, and the change is absurdly easy. I love the Civivi knives I own, but they need to go back to the drawing board with this.
I use my fast back all day every day from the razor blade to the flat head and Philips. I don't care how nice the design is if it dosnt have those features for 20 bucks I'm out.
I have been using the Coast DX126 for years, easy to change the blade and great grip for its size and even has an extra lock to lock the knife out when you want to be sure it won't fold accidentally.
Bought a MasterForce utility knive from Menards. Standard non folding type. It had the button release and extra blade storage in the handle that was clamped down with a spring. Cost 3 bucks 😂 Still my favorite utility blade.
Needs: - A toolless way to add/remove utility blades (similar to the Husky folding utility knife). (No T7 screwdriver needed.) - 4.5" length handle. (So, an XXL handle.) - G10 rounded handle scales (and a Micarta option). Once Civivi fixes these issues, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
I feel like this isn't to replace a fastback or classic Stanley box cutter. It's a light duty edc for someone who likes the fidgety nature of some edc knives and doesn't want to sharpen at the end of the day or week or however often needed. So while they're at their desk watching your videos they swap the blade and put it back in the pocket. For the person that cuts some tape or opens a box every other day or so. Or someone like me that just happens to collect utility blade holders because they're neat for some reason. I don't usually carry one because I have better options to use but I just like them. Though one of these would pair well with a Leatherman, if you got the bit kit, toss a torx in if you don't have it and you got a small replaceable blade and whatever tools your mutlitool has.
I’m glad I saw this because I was thinking of getting one and now seeing is how the blade will just fall off I think I’ll wait for version two which will probably address this issue. Probably have to wait a year but that’s OK.
I'm using Tajima Vmax II blades and I've found that the texture of the blade helps with keeping the screw tightened. I prefer these blades anyway because the coating helps it to not rust as easy. Hoping they wil make a thumb screw for it or maybe fix this with a version 2
I work retail where I am not technically supposed to use anything but the baby's first box cutter they gave me and I had one of these in order for an occasional backup to my other knives. You just saved me time and trouble because that blade issue would undoubtedly get me fired. Ended up cancelling and ordering a NuKnives Kumpanter instead. You should look at that, appears to be a front flipper/stud flipper with a liner lock. It has a similar manual screw to the Oknife but is slightly bigger for a better grip. Also G10 scales. If Civivi updates to AT LEAST a half-blade option and better blade catch I'd definitely buy one, G10 would be nice too. I currently use either an EZ Cutter 1000 or a Milwaukee Fastback 1501 with a Gerber EAB Lite as my backup.
The O-knife offering was cool and small, but it made the mistake of biting me on closing 5 times in the same day. Definitely prefer the push button designs now over the crossbar \ axis lock style.
The o knife handle is too short. If they made it with the longer handle it would be the best. The knife bit me as well. I wonder if we can take the screw that changes out the blade from the oknife and put it on the civivi. You think it will work better?
I've got a handful of box cutters. Fast back is solid and cheap, but I wish was slimmer. Tactical keychains Tukk xl was the first sliding blade box cutter on the market and is really pocket friendly. Turnback knife co full size is a really nice full size option but needs a bit to change the blade too
Got one in my cart, kinda spendy for what it is though... I did want the Gerber pry bar / utility blade one but it doesn't have a pocket clip on it for obvious reasons, but the civivi has a pocket clip and more usable blade which I kind of like but I don't know how practical it is for me... I'm still debating and probably will decide between these two by the end of this month😂... Thanks for your time and the video 😎✌️
I have been carrying the Gerber EAB classic for a very long time it has been the main stay in my rotation, that is equal to if not possibly better than the lightweight EAB
Don't know how many years I've carried mine, but for my needs (occasional use at work) light is perfect. Clip it on one side of my back pocket, never lose it, and never know it's there until I reach for it.
I bought two of these Civivi Elementum Utility knives. One that was green and one that was blue, and they were annoying differences😞 The green one had a really nice chalky matte finish like whats on the original green anodized aluminum Benchmade Osborne 940, and the screw that holds it's utility blade in place was not blue locktited in place at all. The blue version of the Civivi Elementum Utility has a smooth slick finish on its handle(not chalky), and the screw that holds its utility blade in place was heavily locktited in place👍 Why do they each have different handle scale coatong textures🤔🤨
Civivi rushes products to market to saturate the market with lots of new stuff because they know the EDC market has a lot of people who impulsively buy shiny new things.
I daily a mini Osborne at work and lately have had to open a lot of boxes so I was looking for a slim box cutter. I tried a fastback but it's way too big for my pocket. The Civivi is perfect, has a great draw, good pocket clip and is slim/smooth for pockets. Now I leave the benchmades for my days off.
i have one, ive used a fastvack for years at work, i switched to the klein because of the 2nd position lock is so good for biting down really hard when cutting wood veneers or something but ive been using the elementum and its great. sure its not tooless change but i always have a t10 on me for hotel maint on door locks, and the benefit of having a super slim spine and the most possible blade exposure out of any utility knife is great. unless im cutting through hvac insulation or something im good
If the bald doesn't stay in securely it's not a finished product. Shocked from civivi to be honest, I'll definitely be rethinking buying any civivi kife now. Thanks for the video Stella info.
I just bought the Dewalt cutter with a button release lock and it works beautifully, but it's a bit longer. I have others, but I hate having to open them up and then replace the blade and reassemble them. This Dealt model opens easy with one hand. It is not spring-loaded, but that means nothing to fail.
I love mine, I carry spare blades in the case it came with and that’s where I leave my T8 tool. It only requires half a turn to loosen the screw enough, it takes me longer to get a fresh blade out of its packaging. I have a Milwaukee fast back and I’ve never carried it because it’s too bulky but I love to carry my Civivi at work and the screw has never backed out.
When I think box cutter I think of a tool designed to cut cardboard cases. You need a variable depth blade to avoid cutting your inventory. Utility knives are not designed for that role nor should they be. This from daily professional use since 1975. I love the fastback but they absolutely suck for splitting cases and shallow angled cuts. I carry a fastback with screwdriver for edc because I never cut boxes away from work. Just a thought, love your videos. Also Harbor freight makes a button lock with quick change for $5.99. (Lefty interest) If I can find small enough taps I can change it to tip up left-hand carry. My next project.
I call this particular blade a box cutter. A utility knife to me is the ones that are the long snap off blade. As far as the "problem" of the knife. Im not as concerned now that it is released because it does give you almost the ENTIRE blade in one shot. And the complaint you make is no different than back in the day you needed a Quarter or flat head to change the blade. The screw backing out is a serious problem though. I bought workpro because of you and I like but they are too thin and Milwaukee is a little thick. Im still partial to the design of the QSP Penguin. would you consider that a better knife than the Civivi Utility?
I just got mine,(green) I’m very underwhelmed by it, I have ordered a grey one that I’ll be cancelling. The second was going to be a gift but I’m getting the Olight O’tacle U1 instead. The button lock stuffs the drop on mine. If I press the button a little hard, the blade sticks. Deployment is average at best. The O’tacle is smaller but made better.
My problem with the Milwaukee has always been that the blade pulls out cutting drywall. The same with most easy release blade knives. I pinched the threads of my Civivi enough it has good resistance and make sure it's plenty tight.
The simplest, smallest Fastback is what I use. Works every time. Quick release. Compact. And affordable. So affordable, that they are everywhere. In the house, kitchen, garage, truck, tool bag, tool box, and my pocket.
fastback is the undisputed goat if you actually need it for work. I've put mine through hell for years, and have been in multiple altercations with people trying to walk off with it. I check my pocket for it before I check for my phone.
I'm still looking for the ideal utility knife. I wanted to love the Gerber Pry rid, but I was disappointed because I actually need to pry stuff at work. It's not very good at prying, and is a big lump in my pocket.
Question, is there any chance I could talk you into doing a follow up video where you discuss the best blad banks, or make one, to properly dispose of the dulled razor blades??? Please?
Already have a Fastback, but if I wanted an EDC friendly less worker/tradesman looking, then I am using my pack of WorkPro Utility knives. Not getting an Oknife because of the screw. I have the Gerber EAB and its a cheap cash clip/replaceable knife combo. I and looking at getting the more expensive Tirant Razor V3 with their mini prybar accessory replacement. Definitely the most expensive option so far, but I want to see how long the quick release stands up to abuse and grime. But from what I have seen so far it is a cool option for EDC.
I feel this is more for someone that wants a edc blade but doesn’t want to sharpen it or they don’t use it that often , that being said I’m stuck between my Milwaukee or my Klein flick blade 🙃
I got the elementum utility knife and was disappointed when I realized how small it is.... it's officially been retired to my knife collection case before it got it's first cut. I'll get another one if they make the handle bigger... or the guard/shelf in front of the flipper tab a little longer. Almost cut my finger when i choked up to get a full 4 finger grip.
I wished I had watched your video prior to ordering it and it’s on its way in a couple of days and I potentially saw that problem but as an electrician, I’ve always got a T7 in my tool bag. Maybe it will just become another knife nerd purchase. I do love my Oknife. I use that thing every day.
for utility, a simple Stanley breaker blade for a few bucks. adjustable to a short point when opening boxes. why reinvent something that is already working? ;)
G'day Aaron, a specific tool to change blades is ridiculous + it sill doesn't hold. + you wear both ends simultaneously + the spine is in the cutting path, (how does that work as a boxcutter) ........... and that's all before the price. I like the Workpro for a FAK, (with a spare blade or two), and doubling as a back up knife. (wasnt that the one you showed on your recent EDC vid ?) In any case, with these its all about the application. Just go with the Milwaukee, (or an old Stanley job) if you have a regular need on a work site. Incidentally, they're the go-to for cutting plasterboard, (I think you folks call it "drywall"), though it does wear the blades very quickly. As an ex-sparkie, they are "fairly" good for basic/more common cable stripping, though I reckon there's better options and I'm sure you're aware there's so many cable compositions, in terms of conductor gauge, no. of cores, sheilding and insulation materials. But hey, if you just need to cut string, tape and such ........ any "sharp" blade will do ...... well ..... unless it goes flying off mid cut ; ) Seriously, ...... that would have to be the worst "undocumented feature" I've seen on any knife ....... and even worse again .... (if there could be), ..... coming from Civivi, ..... that usually offer "some" of the best "bang for buck" folders going. Cheers Duke.
if the fastback had more blade length to use that would be great... but it dont.. this takes my no#1 so far.. everything on it is a pro except the aluminum body
When the CIVI came out I saw the screw was going to be a major downfall. Got myself the Oknife. Thought I was only going to use it at work but it finds its way into my pocket the whole time. I use my leather to turn the lock screw a tad then the blade never comes loose.
I also wonder if the button lock and ball bearings will hold up to abuse. We all push utility knives. Also, who has a T7. Every knife guy has t6 and t8.
The one thing I CAN say about the elementum razor knife is that a lot of people carry bit bars, pry bars with bits or other kits with them every day. This wouldn’t be an issue for THEM. But for people like me, I wouldn’t even buy this
I was not surprised your screw flew out after seeing the stuff you were doing with it. Things I wouldn't even think it was designed for. Your beefier tasks will need a beefier tool.
I love my oknife utility blade got the civil one and the blade continuously flying out on me and the button lock stick was an instant disappointment took it apart button lock stick got a little better but I still am returning it to Amazon for sure.
Ive always called them utility knives. I've had so many of those over the years in carpentry/ const. field . I have several of those little Gerber folder utility doodads. There small but heavy stainless steel built & with a heavy duty type razor blade that won't break or chip easily. I would never spend more then about ten to twenty on a utility knife. The Gerber works good on the screw If you have a dime in your pocket to use as a mini screwdriver. Thanks GT
I’ll keep my fastback. The thing I like about the fastback is when the blade gets dull I flip it around to get a sharp edge. Also the push button blade release is safer and faster than the civivi. I don’t need the extra blade exposure for what I need a utility knife for. I’m glad the Civivi utility knife price is more reasonable than some of the $100++++ of some “high end” makers. Great review 👍🏼
So if they really want to use a screw to secure and change the blade - T7? I don't think I've ever used a T7 haha. At least a T6 or T8 screws which are coming on most knives. But there are definitely better options for a screw or other mechanism. If the blade literally flies out then that's a problem! Thanks for the great review and highlighting the problems.
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The fastback, utility blade with the screwdriver combo attachment is my most used EDC item ever.
Yup, this is an amazing tool. Only reason its not my edc is I like the look of a more trad looking knife but id be lying if it wasnt the most functional thing ive used. The screwdriver is so good... it really feels like a full size tool in the hand.
It’s an absolute beast. Will be interesting to see if they ever come after Leatherman with a plier based tool
The +1 blade storage on it is perfect and doesn't add bulk
@@aarondougherty236 You just blew my mind buddy! I didn't even know that but I see it now. Wow! I should have looked at the back of the box when I bought it huh?
Same. Just wish I could get a Robertson bit for it.
The fastback is a beast. They could slim it down a bit, but ive used and abused it for several years at work with zero problems. No tool required to change the blade.
Best knife I have for work .
I use the one with the bit driver several times a day… love it.
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@@chillywilly7454 do you use the driver often?
I sand mine down to a slimmer profile quite easily
No. The answer is no.
" Its not the length of your blade, its how you use it" :) I actually prefer a boxcutter that exposes only 1/2 the blade, seems as if I get 2X the use from it
It's a pain to cut those plastic pallet ribbons with a short blade though. That's the #1 reason I would love a knife like this with more blade exposed...
Nothing will dethrone the Fastback with the 1/4" drive with the flat-head bit and philips bit on the other side.
Yessir!
That is the only Fastback I have never bought. Since they started making it I see shorts and videos about it and for whatever reason I havent bought one yet. And i've owned a ton over the years.
@@theplourde It's worth trying out buddy. It's so handy to have that bit set.
If you need a tool to change the blade. The tool must fit into the knife somehow
ok, then it also needs to store spare blades, which are also accessible without a tool or a tool on the knife...such a dumb argument.
Either, A - this is a pocket utility knife for EDC, in which case a stash of blades and tool in the backpack/car/desk is perfectly acceptable because you aren't doing heavy cutting all day.
Or B - This is a toolbox knife for heavy cutting and regular replacement, in which case, IT'S IN ATOOLBOX FFS! keep ur tool and blades handy there. What? You don't have a t7 in your toolbox?
There are legit arguments against this knife as toolbox utility knife. And a coinslot or thumb screw like other models would be better. But the existence of a screw is not one of them. And it being a T7 isn't either. But biggest "Duh" of all, this is clearly designed as an EDC.
@@privatezim3637 Well the fastback does have blade storage built in....Civivi doesn't obviously.
milwaukee has one that stores extra blades in the handle chief, so yeah seems like a weak argument
@@privatezim3637cope harder
needs a fast blade change like the fast back. thats the only reason why im not getting the civivi
Locking screw driver and the release for the blade is a button not a screw.... fastback hands down. Thanks to Zac In The Wild!
Yeahhh I’m glad there are good reviewers like you that test this gear..I definitely won’t get one..Milwaukee is still #1 imo
Besides the Civivi being slightly too small, it is almost a perfect utility knife. Knocks all the others out of the park. The issue isn't the screw (T8 not T7 btw). It is the blade that came with it. You need a wider blade, so there is no gap between the blade edge and the frame that holds it. I changed to a Stanley blade that fits snug and no issues since of blade flying out.
Still no Issues?
@@arneulight Nope. Still solid as
As someone who gets a ton of use out of my utility knives imma have to disagree. The perfect utility knife is the fast back by a mile. Tool free blade change, fast deployment, comfortable grip, mine has a bit driver that i use all the time, has a flat head bit so you always have a pry bar, seatbelt cutter that u use to bust open bags of insulation or plastic wrap, bottle opener too, i use that because its common to run into glass bottle Mexican cokes on site from the roach coach. Its such a well designed and well thought out tool and it’s useful literally every day since i got it. Im a drywaller and i have a dedicated large utility knife for cutting in comfort and cutting sheetrock is rough on these things but the fast back never had the blade pop out or anything even with that rough of a task. Its worth the few millimeters of pocket space you lose to have something so useful
@jimboneutron8399 I definitely understand where you are coming from and why you would like the fastback over this, but for me personally, I prefer something like civivi. I always carry a BID inline screwdriver with all the bits I need, plus a small pry in other pockets, so I have no issues looking for a bit to change blades or something to pry. I use the Civivi to cut plasterboard, old silicon, and boxes with no issue of the blade coming out, so it is already much better than all the others I have with a quick release. Plus, I have no need for a seatbelt cutter or bottle opener, so for me, I find the Civivi pretty perfect.
I love my workpro/mossyoak. Small and thin, and no tools needed to change blades. I dremel some jimping and it’s absolutely perfect
Utility knives are the most dangerous knives we use. Because we don't care if we break the blade because they're disposable, so we put undo force on them.
Literally used mine to bust a metal band today lol
Put one in my thigh while at work. First day of turkey season too. Healed up fine, just looks like a vag.. wife was pissed I didn’t get stitches but I don’t wanna pay that bill.
Milwaukee my go to work knife
I used the Workpro back when I was a wine vendor (cut average 500-800 boxes a day) and honestly, that lil thing was a beast. Worked flawlessly and being able to open it one handed and still being slim, made for a convenient tool to have on person while still in professional attire. I still carry it sometimes over my other knifes because of the replaceable blade feature.
My solution to the EAB was replace the retaining screw with a thumb screw and now you have tool-less changing and a thumb stud for deployment
Brilliant!!
WorkPro razor knives are magnetic stainless steel and are manufactured with four variations , Red , Green , Blue , and Satin stainless . All newer versions have a push button lock , opened and closed . Though made in China they are quality . 3 / $20.00 Amazon 8/30/24 . You will be happy with these !
Thanks so much! I was considering buying one of these but now I think I'll just wait a bit.. Love my fastback!!
Fellow circuit city alum here. I was the home entertainment supervisor when they shut down. Haven’t heard someone mention them in a long time.
I still have an open box Velodyne 10” sub and an Onkyo receiver from Circuit City. Both still rock!
Tell me you’re an elder millennial without telling me you’re an elder millennial. “I worked at circuit city…” 😂
Love this, Aaron! I was at the Blade HQ store reopening and like that Civivi option, minus the points about the T7. Nice to be able to handle it in hand.
Dude!! Yes 💯 %
I'll stick with the Gerber Prybrid, it's more useful and toolless blade changes.
The Fastback 6-in-1 with a small Knipex has been the perfect combo for my everyday carry. My only wish would be different colorways.
The belt clip comes off the Gerber to change the blade. Push down slide out boom flathead screwdriver
The screw should at least be dime friendly. The Gerber version worked great. Grab a dime loosen, change blades and tighten it back up.
Yeah, I was excited about the Elementum utility knife, as I currently carry a Elementum II button lock. I have been carrying a Milwaukee Fastback, with the extra blade holder option, for years for work with ZERO complaints. However, the thought of a cool EDC matched pair from Civivi was intriguing. Your review, and several others finding the same issues, have convinced me to skip this one until some serious improvements are made. What a shame. Thanks for the honest and comprehensive review, best one I’ve seen yet.
for a little knife that stays in the pocket all the time, the Oknife Otacle is great, but the Fastback better ergonomically if you are using it all the time and do not care about the bulk. I had the gerber, liked the idea of a tiny knife that is always sharp, but the deployment is so slow, also the blade it comes with is thicker than regular razor blades, so anything off the shelf will wobble some. The Oknife is very fun to fidgit with. The Fastback, not so much, it is a work tool.
Thanks for the review/warning, Aaron. You put me onto the WorkPros a while back, and I've never looked back. I always have either one of those or a DuraTech (same thing, essentially, but black) on me. Small, thin, light, solid construction, surprisingly fidgety, surprisingly ergonomic, can get a full grip on them so you can apply good pressure, and when I got mine, about $6 a pop. Also, the blade stays secure until changed, and the change is absurdly easy. I love the Civivi knives I own, but they need to go back to the drawing board with this.
I use my fast back all day every day from the razor blade to the flat head and Philips. I don't care how nice the design is if it dosnt have those features for 20 bucks I'm out.
I have been using the Coast DX126 for years, easy to change the blade and great grip for its size and even has an extra lock to lock the knife out when you want to be sure it won't fold accidentally.
Bought a MasterForce utility knive from Menards. Standard non folding type. It had the button release and extra blade storage in the handle that was clamped down with a spring.
Cost 3 bucks 😂
Still my favorite utility blade.
Needs:
- A toolless way to add/remove utility blades (similar to the Husky folding utility knife). (No T7 screwdriver needed.)
- 4.5" length handle. (So, an XXL handle.)
- G10 rounded handle scales (and a Micarta option).
Once Civivi fixes these issues, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
Worked in a warehouse for ten yrs, the gerber was a game changer. Light, small, one-handed. Excellent bit of kit.
5:54 I do understand you shouldn’t have to use Loctite. But purple adjustment screw Loctite 222 could be used and still be able to remove the screw.
Thank you for this. I don't have one of these, or intend to, but i didn't know purple loctite was a thing:)
I'm not paying money for a tool only to have to loctite it .... come on man
I feel like this isn't to replace a fastback or classic Stanley box cutter. It's a light duty edc for someone who likes the fidgety nature of some edc knives and doesn't want to sharpen at the end of the day or week or however often needed. So while they're at their desk watching your videos they swap the blade and put it back in the pocket. For the person that cuts some tape or opens a box every other day or so. Or someone like me that just happens to collect utility blade holders because they're neat for some reason. I don't usually carry one because I have better options to use but I just like them. Though one of these would pair well with a Leatherman, if you got the bit kit, toss a torx in if you don't have it and you got a small replaceable blade and whatever tools your mutlitool has.
Utility knife is a better name and description of these great tools. They are incredibly useful.
I’m glad I saw this because I was thinking of getting one and now seeing is how the blade will just fall off I think I’ll wait for version two which will probably address this issue. Probably have to wait a year but that’s OK.
I'm using Tajima Vmax II blades and I've found that the texture of the blade helps with keeping the screw tightened. I prefer these blades anyway because the coating helps it to not rust as easy.
Hoping they wil make a thumb screw for it or maybe fix this with a version 2
I work retail where I am not technically supposed to use anything but the baby's first box cutter they gave me and I had one of these in order for an occasional backup to my other knives. You just saved me time and trouble because that blade issue would undoubtedly get me fired. Ended up cancelling and ordering a NuKnives Kumpanter instead. You should look at that, appears to be a front flipper/stud flipper with a liner lock. It has a similar manual screw to the Oknife but is slightly bigger for a better grip. Also G10 scales.
If Civivi updates to AT LEAST a half-blade option and better blade catch I'd definitely buy one, G10 would be nice too.
I currently use either an EZ Cutter 1000 or a Milwaukee Fastback 1501 with a Gerber EAB Lite as my backup.
The O-knife offering was cool and small, but it made the mistake of biting me on closing 5 times in the same day. Definitely prefer the push button designs now over the crossbar \ axis lock style.
Ouch!
The o knife handle is too short. If they made it with the longer handle it would be the best. The knife bit me as well. I wonder if we can take the screw that changes out the blade from the oknife and put it on the civivi. You think it will work better?
I EDC a FastBack and Victorinox CyberTool, so I have a T7 on my person already. Ordering one to see if it feels more solid than a tool-less design.
I've got a handful of box cutters. Fast back is solid and cheap, but I wish was slimmer. Tactical keychains Tukk xl was the first sliding blade box cutter on the market and is really pocket friendly. Turnback knife co full size is a really nice full size option but needs a bit to change the blade too
the T7 thing kills it plus 42 bucks for a box cutter they are dreaming.
Got one in my cart, kinda spendy for what it is though... I did want the Gerber pry bar / utility blade one but it doesn't have a pocket clip on it for obvious reasons, but the civivi has a pocket clip and more usable blade which I kind of like but I don't know how practical it is for me... I'm still debating and probably will decide between these two by the end of this month😂... Thanks for your time and the video 😎✌️
I have been carrying the Gerber EAB classic for a very long time it has been the main stay in my rotation, that is equal to if not possibly better than the lightweight EAB
More exposed edge on your blade and the front choil on EAB classic is very comfortable looks like it's way more comfortable than the lightweight eab
Carried the EAB for 10 years. Used it as a money clip. Very compact. And you can remove the screw with a coin
Don't know how many years I've carried mine, but for my needs (occasional use at work) light is perfect. Clip it on one side of my back pocket, never lose it, and never know it's there until I reach for it.
I bought two of these Civivi Elementum Utility knives. One that was green and one that was blue, and they were annoying differences😞 The green one had a really nice chalky matte finish like whats on the original green anodized aluminum Benchmade Osborne 940, and the screw that holds it's utility blade in place was not blue locktited in place at all. The blue version of the Civivi Elementum Utility has a smooth slick finish on its handle(not chalky), and the screw that holds its utility blade in place was heavily locktited in place👍 Why do they each have different handle scale coatong textures🤔🤨
Civivi rushes products to market to saturate the market with lots of new stuff because they know the EDC market has a lot of people who impulsively buy shiny new things.
I daily a mini Osborne at work and lately have had to open a lot of boxes so I was looking for a slim box cutter. I tried a fastback but it's way too big for my pocket. The Civivi is perfect, has a great draw, good pocket clip and is slim/smooth for pockets. Now I leave the benchmades for my days off.
i have one, ive used a fastvack for years at work, i switched to the klein because of the 2nd position lock is so good for biting down really hard when cutting wood veneers or something but ive been using the elementum and its great. sure its not tooless change but i always have a t10 on me for hotel maint on door locks, and the benefit of having a super slim spine and the most possible blade exposure out of any utility knife is great. unless im cutting through hvac insulation or something im good
Have you thought about doing GT livestreams? I think it would be cool
I have the WORKPRO works great easy open and quick change of the blade.
If the bald doesn't stay in securely it's not a finished product. Shocked from civivi to be honest, I'll definitely be rethinking buying any civivi kife now. Thanks for the video Stella info.
ya know knowing that i need a tool to change the blade really hurts that... especially when the toughbuilt electrician one exist
I just bought the Dewalt cutter with a button release lock and it works beautifully, but it's a bit longer. I have others, but I hate having to open them up and then replace the blade and reassemble them. This Dealt model opens easy with one hand. It is not spring-loaded, but that means nothing to fail.
Big idea design has the best for edc and it’s full titanium
I love mine, I carry spare blades in the case it came with and that’s where I leave my T8 tool. It only requires half a turn to loosen the screw enough, it takes me longer to get a fresh blade out of its packaging. I have a Milwaukee fast back and I’ve never carried it because it’s too bulky but I love to carry my Civivi at work and the screw has never backed out.
Dude honestly the fast back with the bit driver is literally the most useful thing I own. Its hard to beat. It’s almost the perfect tool
When I think box cutter I think of a tool designed to cut cardboard cases. You need a variable depth blade to avoid cutting your inventory. Utility knives are not designed for that role nor should they be. This from daily professional use since 1975. I love the fastback but they absolutely suck for splitting cases and shallow angled cuts. I carry a fastback with screwdriver for edc because I never cut boxes away from work. Just a thought, love your videos. Also Harbor freight makes a button lock with quick change for $5.99. (Lefty interest) If I can find small enough taps I can change it to tip up left-hand carry. My next project.
I call this particular blade a box cutter. A utility knife to me is the ones that are the long snap off blade. As far as the "problem" of the knife. Im not as concerned now that it is released because it does give you almost the ENTIRE blade in one shot. And the complaint you make is no different than back in the day you needed a Quarter or flat head to change the blade. The screw backing out is a serious problem though. I bought workpro because of you and I like but they are too thin and Milwaukee is a little thick. Im still partial to the design of the QSP Penguin. would you consider that a better knife than the Civivi Utility?
Looks like a light use knife at best. Thanks for the review, I am glad I waited.
I just got mine,(green) I’m very underwhelmed by it, I have ordered a grey one that I’ll be cancelling. The second was going to be a gift but I’m getting the Olight O’tacle U1 instead.
The button lock stuffs the drop on mine. If I press the button a little hard, the blade sticks.
Deployment is average at best.
The O’tacle is smaller but made better.
My problem with the Milwaukee has always been that the blade pulls out cutting drywall. The same with most easy release blade knives.
I pinched the threads of my Civivi enough it has good resistance and make sure it's plenty tight.
The simplest, smallest Fastback is what I use. Works every time. Quick release. Compact. And affordable. So affordable, that they are everywhere. In the house, kitchen, garage, truck, tool bag, tool box, and my pocket.
fastback is the undisputed goat if you actually need it for work. I've put mine through hell for years, and have been in multiple altercations with people trying to walk off with it. I check my pocket for it before I check for my phone.
I'm still looking for the ideal utility knife. I wanted to love the Gerber Pry rid, but I was disappointed because I actually need to pry stuff at work. It's not very good at prying, and is a big lump in my pocket.
If you want a premium utility knife get something like the Tirant Razor not a button lock but still fun to play with and tool less blade change.
Question, is there any chance I could talk you into doing a follow up video where you discuss the best blad banks, or make one, to properly dispose of the dulled razor blades???
Please?
I will look into that
@@gideonstactical Thanks!
Workpro has been my go to foldable utility knife. Stupid cheap for a pack of 3 on Amazon
If your in production the milwaukee fastback 1502 is the undisputed king of cardboard slaying especially in receiving/unloading wharehouses
Already have a Fastback, but if I wanted an EDC friendly less worker/tradesman looking, then I am using my pack of WorkPro Utility knives. Not getting an Oknife because of the screw. I have the Gerber EAB and its a cheap cash clip/replaceable knife combo. I and looking at getting the more expensive Tirant Razor V3 with their mini prybar accessory replacement. Definitely the most expensive option so far, but I want to see how long the quick release stands up to abuse and grime. But from what I have seen so far it is a cool option for EDC.
I am a fastback fanboy but I like workpro as backup couldn’t you grind or file into flathead the extra screw?
Brother you needa cop the outdoor
Edge 3.0 VX3 knife and get the utility blades for it so fire
I feel this is more for someone that wants a edc blade but doesn’t want to sharpen it or they don’t use it that often , that being said I’m stuck between my Milwaukee or my Klein flick blade 🙃
I got the elementum utility knife and was disappointed when I realized how small it is.... it's officially been retired to my knife collection case before it got it's first cut. I'll get another one if they make the handle bigger... or the guard/shelf in front of the flipper tab a little longer. Almost cut my finger when i choked up to get a full 4 finger grip.
Woof. Thanks for pointing out the need for a separate tool and then the problems with the lock.
That really is a non-starter.
I wished I had watched your video prior to ordering it and it’s on its way in a couple of days and I potentially saw that problem but as an electrician, I’ve always got a T7 in my tool bag. Maybe it will just become another knife nerd purchase. I do love my Oknife. I use that thing every day.
I’ve owned a Fastback for several years now I picked up at Home Depot. It’s a little clunky but for the price it’s worth it.
Welp...I was looking at it. Thank you very very much!
Nice look! For those using these kind of utility knives, what is the benefit vs one with a large snap blade?
for utility, a simple Stanley breaker blade for a few bucks. adjustable to a short point when opening boxes. why reinvent something that is already working? ;)
G'day Aaron, a specific tool to change blades is ridiculous + it sill doesn't hold. + you wear both ends simultaneously + the spine is in the cutting path, (how does that work as a boxcutter) ........... and that's all before the price.
I like the Workpro for a FAK, (with a spare blade or two), and doubling as a back up knife. (wasnt that the one you showed on your recent EDC vid ?)
In any case, with these its all about the application. Just go with the Milwaukee, (or an old Stanley job) if you have a regular need on a work site. Incidentally, they're the go-to for cutting plasterboard, (I think you folks call it "drywall"), though it does wear the blades very quickly.
As an ex-sparkie, they are "fairly" good for basic/more common cable stripping, though I reckon there's better options and I'm sure you're aware there's so many cable compositions, in terms of conductor gauge, no. of cores, sheilding and insulation materials.
But hey, if you just need to cut string, tape and such ........ any "sharp" blade will do ...... well ..... unless it goes flying off mid cut ; )
Seriously, ...... that would have to be the worst "undocumented feature" I've seen on any knife ....... and even worse again .... (if there could be), ..... coming from Civivi, ..... that usually offer "some" of the best "bang for buck" folders going.
Cheers Duke.
Will the Ok knife screw work in the Civivi?
Not sure I will have to check.
if the fastback had more blade length to use that would be great... but it dont.. this takes my no#1 so far.. everything on it is a pro except the aluminum body
My elementum utility comes with a t8 screw to replace the blade!
I have a basic fastback and it can't be beat for cost and speed of deployment.
When the CIVI came out I saw the screw was going to be a major downfall. Got myself the Oknife. Thought I was only going to use it at work but it finds its way into my pocket the whole time. I use my leather to turn the lock screw a tad then the blade never comes loose.
I also wonder if the button lock and ball bearings will hold up to abuse.
We all push utility knives.
Also, who has a T7. Every knife guy has t6 and t8.
Im stuck on the exceed designs tyrant razor V3 (i have 4) its just fantastic but ill check this one out
I store a key for changing blades in my blade holder. Really don't need to overthink it imo.
Nothing beats the Milwaukee fastback knifes
The one thing I CAN say about the elementum razor knife is that a lot of people carry bit bars, pry bars with bits or other kits with them every day. This wouldn’t be an issue for THEM. But for people like me, I wouldn’t even buy this
I was not surprised your screw flew out after seeing the stuff you were doing with it. Things I wouldn't even think it was designed for. Your beefier tasks will need a beefier tool.
For what I'm doing with an XACTO knife, I don't want that much exposed blade. My hand would get cut up so fast with that.
I love my oknife utility blade got the civil one and the blade continuously flying out on me and the button lock stick was an instant disappointment took it apart button lock stick got a little better but I still am returning it to Amazon for sure.
The 9TiEDC on Amazon is what I bought
They should have used the Amirite handle of this utility blade
Milwaukee fastback with screw driver, and bottle opener is the best utility knife out there. Nothing compares.
My favorite is the Civivi Mandate
Ive always called them utility knives. I've had so many of those over the years in carpentry/ const. field . I have several of those little Gerber folder utility doodads. There small but heavy stainless steel built & with a heavy duty type razor blade that won't break or chip easily. I would never spend more then about ten to twenty on a utility knife. The Gerber works good on the screw If you have a dime in your pocket to use as a mini screwdriver. Thanks GT
I like those Gerbers because they fit in your "coin pocket" or 5th pocket? Well whatever you call it, fits really nice.
I’ll keep my fastback. The thing I like about the fastback is when the blade gets dull I flip it around to get a sharp edge. Also the push button blade release is safer and faster than the civivi. I don’t need the extra blade exposure for what I need a utility knife for. I’m glad the Civivi utility knife price is more reasonable than some of the $100++++ of some “high end” makers. Great review 👍🏼
Need to check out the TiRant V3. It may be twice as much as the Civivi but it is all titanium and a flipper to boot.
I have the millwauke, Dewalt folder, and the gerber. I like them all. Thanks Aaron. 🇺🇲🔪🌲🔥
So if they really want to use a screw to secure and change the blade - T7? I don't think I've ever used a T7 haha. At least a T6 or T8 screws which are coming on most knives.
But there are definitely better options for a screw or other mechanism. If the blade literally flies out then that's a problem!
Thanks for the great review and highlighting the problems.