Putting 34’s on the New GMC Canyon…. Overland Build Part 1
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2024
- Welcome to Trail Therapy! In this video we begin the overloading build on my 2023 GMC Canyon AT4 with wheels and tires. I went with the Method Race Wheels 703, featuring their bead grip technology, in a 17x9 -12. paired with Nitto Ridge Grapplers in 285/75/R17, or 34 inches. It definitely didn't go as planned and I had to do a lot of trimming. Next up, rock sliders / running boards, and a lift kit. Subscribe to follow along for the build!
I gotta say bro for a small channel you got some high quality videos. Even better than some of the bigger channels out there with thousands of subscribers. Definitely earned my subscription and can’t wait to see the rest of the build!
Thanks for the compliments, and the sub! Really looking forward to working up more content for this channel!
That is a great looking wheel set up! Honestly, that’s how the AT4 should have come from factory!💯
It’s probably a bit aggressive for some people, but I agree. It’s what it should have looked like. Thanks for watching!
The new wheels/tires added exactly 1 inch of ground clearance. So the rear differential is now 10.5 inches.
I forgot to put that in the video.
Awesome video. Also have an At4 but in solar flare (not my first choice of colour but the price was right) and wanted to build it up as well. RUclips is full of Tacoma builds so it’s great to see a GMC overland vehicle coming to life, thanks for doing this 🍻
I had a hard time, deciding between this color and that. I think those look cool! no joke on the Tacoma builds… Definitely have several more things planned for this one, but we will see where it ends up! Thanks for following along!
The blue on those black wheels looks insane. Can't wait to see another video on this.
Thanks! Coming soon!
Im a manager at discout tire in texas and the tmps sensors have gone up in price to $60 a peace after covid. So our guys did not rip you off lol! Truck looks sick by the way!!
Good to hear! Thanks for watching!
Same experience with Discount Tire. I’ve stopped using them all together. Too many negative experiences and excuses.
Yup. Going to have to find another dedicated shop to get to know in my area.
GMC killed it with this design of the canyon.. For somebody that has 313 subs I’ve very impressed with sound and video editing and the way you shot the video.. I have no doubt you’ll have get 1000 subs fast lol great video
Thanks very much! I’m pumped to see where this channel goes
I went method 305s 18x9 +20 with 275/70 and I felt like that was the perfect look for me! Excited to follow this build
I’ll bet that looks great! Thanks for following along!
Loved the video. I am getting a '24 at4 myself, and have been struggling to find other people who have the same truck and want to do the same things with it that I want to. I also want to turn mine into an overlanding rig, and I am so glad I finally found someone with the same passions. Great video 👍
Those wheels looks SO good. Awesome choice!
Thank you!
Great video. Subscribed. I have the Trailboss. Looking forward to more videos.
Appreciate it! Trail Boss rocks!
Ops i just got the the end and u said your already doin the lift 😂
Can’t wait for it!! Thanks for watching!
That looks really good!
Looks sick
Thanks!
Absolutely love it
Thanks!!
They look dope, dude! Really change the whole look of the truck. 👊
Thanks so much! I agree
Looks killer 👍
Thanks!
Love your style of filming and your truck looks amazing. Just subscribed. Can’t wait for the lift kit
Thanks for the compliment, and the sub! I can’t wait for it either!
Those look sick on that Canyon. I currently drive a 2015 Ram 1500 and will be needing another truck in the next year or two. I honestly would not have looked at these unless I saw your post. It made click and subscribe.
Thanks for the sub!
Hey dude! thanks for the video, I also just acquired a brand new 24' canyon and want to do an overland built on it so I will be following your channel!
Yo that looks 🔥 homie
I’m running a 17x8.5 with 0mm offset(factory is 17x8, neg12mm offset) KMC Riot beadlocks(red) and the Nitto Ridge Grappler 305/70/17 on my AT4X. No contact anywhere on full stuff and turn but I doubt you could get a pubic hair between the rim and brake caliper.
Awesome video. I've been in the process of doing the same thing with a 2018 canyon for overland exploring. With a bed tent. First trip is to colorado in May
Thanks! Hope your first trip goes great!
I’ve got the same truck. Put 17inch methods with 0 offset with 33s. No rub . Waiting for a good 4-6 inch lift kit to come out to run 35s
That will look awesome with a big lift! I even wonder if a zero offset with these 34s would not have rubbed
Looking forward to seeing what the lift does. I'm planning on getting 275/80/17 (34x10.5). There are some many mixed opinions on what fits and what doesn't and I'm a big believer of ill believe it when I see it lol. Thanks for sharing your build!
Looking forward to seeing it completed as well! Thanks for following along!
Great vid! All good guidance for me. This is my first truck, also, the most expensive vehicle I’ve ever purchased just like you. I’ll be watching the entire build, I plan on purchasing the 2/1 CCE (Level up makes them), so our vehicles may be similar
I had no idea level up, makes the CCE kit! Thanks for following along!
Hopefully/Fixing to buy a 2024 Canyon AT4 - Subscribed & watching ya close.
I guess I don't understand the hate. I've used DT for years. Always been great, and that's at multiple locations across 3 different states. I just use offroad/adventure build shops for actual modifications. Love this vid. I've been looking at the ZR2 which comes with 285 70s, and I would go up one size like your 285 75s.
They literally ruined three of four wheels the last time I used them. Had to fight with them for over a month before they agreed to replace the three wheels that they trashed. The lack of awareness to do it on the first one, and then repeat it two more times is crazy to me. But thank you for watching, and for the kind words!
@@TrailTherapyNash Damn, hate that for you. I guess it's like anything else. One guy loves Fords because he's had nothing but good experiences. Other guy hates them because he's had nothing but trouble. Totally understandable. Looking forward to see how the lift changes things for you. Btw, I just moved from Nashville to Boulder, CO about 6 months ago. Love it out here. It's like the outdoor adventure Mecca lol.
Welcome to town! The ZR2 is a bad truck! And I believe it will take 285/75 on the stock wheel. If you’re on Instagram, hit me up over there. @musiccityat4
Subbed! I got a white At4 but looking forward to see how your build plays out
They look so good in white! That was the press color they made the announcement in, and I nearly ordered a white one. Thanks for the sub!
You need an icon vehicle dynamics uca and coilover kit like the one done for sema I would have used a 18 mm off set wheel in 35’s no problem.
It’s a great looking kit! However, I’m going to do the level kit and then I think I’m going to wait for something from Fox.
Nice looking rigs, man !
I'm on a ZR2 2023, cant wait to see how you're going to build that truck.
New subscribers btw
ZR2 is an awesome truck! Thanks for the sub!
When I was fitting my 33's, I used a heatgun to heat up the inner wheel fenders, used a hammer to bend them while hot, and used a spray bottle with cold water to flash cool the plastic. Granted I have a Lexus GX460. After the heat bending and a (common for GX) body mount chop, no rubbing at all on my setup, and I was able to keep the inner fenders intact.
If you plastic fender liners are still in the way, the heat gun method might work.
Interesting idea! I’ll have to look into that!
@@TrailTherapyNash btw the hammer is for pushing the hot plastic, not hammering.
My titan pro4x is the first truck I've put rims and tires that programed itself as well
So awesome we are in a place where this stuff is happening automatically!
Had to give my fellow Nashville bros a subscribe. Just picked up my AT4 a coupe of weeks ago. Very interested to see where you go with the build.
Damn it I knew I should of gotten a blue at4 😅 but I couldn’t wait, they only had black ones in my area 😢 subscribed man looking forwarded to more content 🔥
You can never go wrong with Black! Thanks for following along!
Man, I have to say your video quality, editing, music is all top notch. Great video and definitely got a new sub from me. Also the truck looks bad ass. One question, have you noticed any power loss or fuel milage change in going to the larger and heavier tires?
you think 33's would fit on a stock AT4? From what it looks like the 20" factory wheel option comes with a 275/60R20 tire that is about 33" so I figure something like a 285/70R17 would fit great
Car manufacturers know that most buyers for this type of vehicles will do upgrade’s with tires. They should make those wheel wells bigger.
I completely agree.
Great looking truck so far. Interested on the overland build. I have a 2023 ZR2. New subscriber here.
Thanks for the sub!
Like the vid, minus the music. Idk if it’s the volume or music type. Food for thought.
Yo dude nice video work
Thanks so much!
Great video. Im torn. Like the AT4X and ZR2, but the practicality of a daily driver and a little overland. Additionally, I want the ability to tow the boat. I might have to stick with AT4 or Trail Boss / Z71 just to get that 7,700 lbs.
I heavily considered the AT4X… but at the end of the day, an extra $12,000 for lockers was just so hard to justify knowing that I would replace wheels and tires on either one. Awesome trucks, but you certainly pay for it.
The AT4X & ZR2 will accommodate 35s at stock height. There are a few people running them already [including me].
AT4 & Trail Boss will fit 33s; the Z71 is where it gets iffy … people are doing 1” front levels to fit 33s.
Wheel selection is obviously critical.
Thanks for the info! I’m now curious if there is any additional geometry, or clearance changes under there for the X and ZR2. Other than it just sitting 1 inch higher.
I'm planning on getting a 2024 ZR2, and was looking to fit 35's. Are you getting any rubbing at full articulation? What wheels and offset, and tires? Thx! I was looking to put a small lift (1-2") on it to do 35's. I might consider 34's instead if that tire will fit in the stock location under the bed.
The leveling kit will fix your rubbin 100% you’ll be happy guaranteed 👍
Nice video man 🤘🤘 and have to now , what is the compagnie for your "rock slider"
I’ve just uploaded a video on the rock sliders, check it out! Thanks for watching
Great looking truck - Mpg from 17.5 to 10.2 😆🤣😂
😂😂😂
You probably should have gone to a -1 , -18 is too much tire poke and will make it rub on the inner fender.
I run zero offset on Fuel Shoks, with a 2019 1500 Trailboss. With 275 wide tires. The tread is fully flush with the Fenders and the Tire side walls poke out.
If I knew I was staying at stock ride height, I would have went with a zero offset. But the lift kit is now installed, the video on that will be coming soon!
@TrailTherapyNash I'm definitely going to check out that Video. But I'm not sure you'll get the results you are after. For reference, I'm running Toyo 275/70/18 , which is 33.2" on the -1 Fuel Shok. I still Rub on max lock on my OEM mud flaps on the inside of the Fenders. Also, if you are running a spacer lift, know that you are actually reducing suspension travel.
Lifting will only fix the rub on the road but it will still rub under compression, you gotta trim!
Definitely will not be satisfied until I can get full articulation without rubbing. We’ll see how it shakes out.
Awesome vid 🍻
2-1 level up will give you your clearance , I did that all to my 2023 AT4 prior to the wheels and Fuels syndicate -1 offset and had plenty of room
Now I have a 2023 ZR2 Colorado with the 2-1 level up shackle and 305 methods with a zero offset and likely going 315’s soon with no worries of rubbing
Will you be doing the shackle or add a leaf ?
Nice! Thanks for the feedback! I’m going to do the shackle for now, just for the ease of installation. But ultimately I’d like to overhaul the suspension completely.
With an at4x factory lift and the 0 offset wheels, do you think there would be rubbing?
Wow! That looks awesome. I mean does it rub during just normal driving?
It only rubbed under full lock, but it did rub pretty bad under full walk in reverse. I’ve now got the lift kit on, video on, that will be coming soon!
I'm curious what sliders/running boards you are using and if they are frame mounted. In the video it seems you've already installed some.
Next video will be dedicated to those! Just a couple days before it’s live!
Hey Colt! I bought the exact same truck AT4 in Dynamic blue. Mine is getting built at the end of February. Excited to follow along with what you might have planned. Wheels/tires look fantastic! hope the lift will sort out the rubbing issues. Where did you get your side rails/steps?
Congrats Atz! I love this truck! The runningboards are from iron bison. The very next video will be focused on them. Thanks for following along!
I wonder if it would rubbed with 0 offset wheels, I’m asking really, I want to know too.
I have a feeling it wouldn’t have, or it would’ve been very minimal… I’ve even considered ordering another set of wheels to find out and then selling, whichever set. I decide not to keep. But I want to get the lift kit on and check articulation before I go that route.
Hey, what kind of runningboards are you using?
Nice truck, What steps you have on there?
Thanks! They are the iron bison steps. There will be a video coming in a few days on them.
Do you feel like the weight of the tire is an issue? Or feel like it needs to be re-geared for the larger tire size? I just did the 2in lift and put 285/70/17’s Falken wild peak at4w’s and the weight of the wheels feels like it’s too much.
You can definitely feel it… That said, this engine, and the brakes on this truck are more than adequate in my opinion. But it’s definitely a trade-off. Better rock, crawling, and offloading, gets you a slower truck with less gas mileage.
Sweet truck! I don’t get the desire to push the tires out so far. I know it’s a personal preference, but I can’t stand that look. If you put that size tire on the factory wheel, they probably would have fit without rubbing, and in my opinion looked better. Beadlocks are overrated for what most people are doing. I used to run my Wrangler tires at 12-15lbs on 8” steelies and never lost a bead. Run my RZR tires on factory wheels at 9-11lbs. No problems.
Thanks! I think I probably would have preferred a zero offset for slightly less poke. That said, the way it sits doesn’t bother me at all. 12 pounds on Steelies is crazy, great to hear! Thanks for watching!
Really curious how the 2"/1" leveling kit helps your tire clearance.
When are you getting that installed?
It’s installed now! Video should be up this week
@@TrailTherapyNash Much better clearance with the -12mm and 75 wall tire? Iv been told from many wheel shops that spacers are required with 0mm offset wheels and that we have to go with -10mm or -12mm anyways to avoid spacers and caliper rub.
i have the same truck with the 2/1 CCE lift and 295/70s the only part that rubs is the rear wheel well right where the fender flare sticks out more than the liner....I hate that I might have to cut it too
Interesting… What wheel specs are you running?
@@TrailTherapyNash Nitto Ridge Grapplers with stock rims and a 1.5 wheel spacer. I read on the forums someone with the same tire size as mine running without the spacer and was fine so I might try that. I had the spacer on first.
Did some trimming of the pinch weld area and I’m good to go now. No rubbing
Maybe trim after a leveling kit 😂 looks good tho
Just two more inches.
How'd they do 35s on Bison? Think it was just offset and more flared fender covers.
I believe the bison sits 2 inches taller than the AT4. The AT4X is 1 inch taller, and the bison is even bigger. Also, it would not surprise me if there are some more differences in the wheel well.
@@TrailTherapyNash Had to go back and read twice. The magic trick was moving the front axle 3.1" forward on the Bison. The extra ~1.5" ground clearance is from tire, not suspension.
Very interesting. I never came across that. Thanks!
@@TrailTherapyNash I found it on the Car & Driver article. It'll be interesting to see when someone gets one on lift to deconstruct. Good news if it's simple bolt ons and not custom fab. A lot of people waiting to see tire potential on 24' tacoma too. On another note, they did re-gear to 4.10s on Bison.
Whats the weight of the stock wheels and tires individually? 39lb tire and 26lb wheel? Also how's the hit to the fuel economy with those on?
Not sure about the stock wheels and tires individually, but the weigh 65 lbs together. I lost about 1.5mpg
wow thats hardly any loss for such a large tire
I put 32.6" on my trail boss and lost about the same. @@TrailTherapyNash
Great video and love the new look of your truck! I have a 20023 Black ZR2 and am considering the same rims, for the weight and Bead Grip. Couple questions...did you reach out to Method and ask them what gives with the 3-4 pound difference? Seems like quite a bit to be off advertising by. Also, did you check out Brink Wheels in your searching? They are flow formed and super light (legit), I just haven't seen many user out there with them for some good feedback, but they look nice. Thanks! Sub'd - Jeff
Why? Putting too big of a tires ? Why void your car warranty destroying your car wheel well
Because big tires make small holes. I don’t care about the warranty on my suspension components. They’ll all be swapped out completely before the warranty is even up. Thanks for watching.
So you went s whole 30lb heavier then the Oem wheels lmao FAIL 🤣
I did it just so you would leave this comment. Mission accomplished 🤘🏻😜🤘🏻
Awesome truck.........however it will leave you stranded and is a money pit after 2-3 yrs!
This truck hasn’t even been out a year, so pretty hard to say anything about the long term reliability. But thanks for watching!
Any newer model Gmc/chevy products in general.@@TrailTherapyNash