I had my Pro one for around 10 years.....rarely used it because I couldn't really grasp the ins and outs of the machine and concentrated on my polysynths. I really held onto it because I saw how the prices kept going up. However after taking it out of storage I found it clacky with crackles when knobs were turned....so I had it serviced and put it up for sale. Someone asked if I would be interested in swapping it with the Pro3 .....looked into what that machine could do......and agreed . Chalk and cheese !!! Love what the Pro 3 is capable of compared to the rather restrictive sounds of the Pro 1.
My SCi Pro One rocks harder than any 10:33 synth I know. The filter is so strong and the envelopes so quick it’s unreal. Love triggering the built in Sequencer via the external clock in with a Roland TR-08 / 707 / 06 / DR-110 drum machine. No wonder it’s Vince Clarke’s favourite synth of all time.
Purchased my Pro One in 1984. Still have it today A couple of additional features with this synth model. Easily repaired, easy to maintain. This contributes to long life and reliability. (This excludes the Pratt-Read membrane keybed. Replace immediately if you have one) The rear panel CV connections. This is an ideal CV controller for Eurorack or any other CV synth. Sequencer key change. While the sequencer is running, you can change the key by pressing a note on the keyboard. from C0 to C2. C1 is the normal, recorded key. Arpegiator latch- while holding notes for an arp, swith the REC/PLAY switch into REC position. This will latch the arp.
Hey fellow old-timer, I've had my Pro-One about the same amount of time, Don't use it much but it still works well, despite never having been serviced. Another great feature worth mentioning is that it can be triggered by any rhythmic audio source, via the audio input, and can then be used as a CV and gate controller.
Got one back in the 80's, the mono limitation was the big reason eventually got rid of it ( and in those days, affordable synth meant it was mono ). But yes, it's great at bass and the modulation controls were very good. External input so you could run a guitar through the modulation for example.
I bought one of these in 1985, I was passing a junk shop and it was in the window, it was so cheap it would have been criminal not to buy it, I was a guitarist and bought it just for some accompaniment, I had a 4 track recorder and thought it would add a little something to some guitar parts I had recorded. I didn't really sound as good as i thought it would and after the fun had worn off I hardly touched it, I bought some rack effects units that included a reverb, delay and chorus and an 8 channel mixer that had aux sends that I used the effects with, it was at that point that the Pro One became usable for me, I later realised that my 4 track had a single aux send, although to be fair I didn't know what one did before I asked what they were when I bought the mixer.
Thanx man! Its actually full hd on a canon eos and the side view is my iphone. Lower res on the iphone but better image quality - I had the wrong fps/shutter speed setting on the canon which caused the terrible flicker… sorry for that 🤦🏻♂️ learning as i go…
@@ksmusiclounge1648 Yes, this is only 360p here on RUclips. Something must have gone wrong. Also the sound seems also to be recorded with some kind of external microphone and not directly from the Synths output.
Its the output but I mixed in a bit of the room with side chain to duck the room sound. I wanted the sound of the synth sound to be crisp and to have the sound of the button switching at the same time.
All his videos are in 360p resolution. I don't think he knows how to render his videos in HD. It sucks because 360p on RUclips uses a much lower audio ɓitrate than higher resolutions so we aren't hearing this at it's best
Yeah but to be fair to them they're selling these new versions for pennies. If they were charging 3k for them then you'd expect all sorts of bells and whistles.
The manual included ( a few pages I think ) a graphic of the controls so you could manually mark a picture of all your settings. Tablets and cell phones didn't exist.
@@ksmusiclounge1648 I was referring to using old analog gear today. We can snap an image of a patch on our device. . .Ah yes, the beauty of analogue. I have a an amp simulator stomp box for my electric harmonica. I tried several digital devices, all of them gave me horrible digital artifacts. I found a tube driven simulator, the “Harp Attack” - all analogue. It kicks a*** on my tin sandwich.
Thanks, Im taking comments to heart - check out my latest video, I’ve dropped the room sound completely, we’ll see how that is received. Im a small channel so Im dialing things in as I go. Take care and keep making music!
ok great explanation....but your voice is louder than the synth....??? I cant really turn up the volume, as soon as you start talking have to lower volume. wheres my back button? let me outta here
I’m currently at 14:00 and still did not hear ANY more or less good sound. Definitely not a demo of “secret weapon”. And still in 360dpi, bad light. The synth itself is not well positioned in the frame, and the audio captured by camera with all keyboard and switching noises included. For 2011 video is fine, but in 2023...
This video is not a demo but rather an in-depth review with a lot of talking. The sheer power of the two oscillators combined best suited for fat bass can be heard around the 4:40 mark where I discuss the oscillators and the filter. As I mentioned in the description, I had the wrong fps/shutter speed setting, unfortunately I didnt realize this until after the footage was shot. Its actually in full HD but the flicker makes it seem lower res although it isnt. Hopefully you will enjoy my other and/or future videos - as a beginning channel I cannot compete with the production value of the big ones that we are used to watching but hopefully the quality of my content and the honest intention to make good videos will resonate with enough people for this channel to grow and become something. I am certainly committed to this path and appreciate every single comment - even critical ones. So thanks for your comment!
@@ksmusiclounge1648 thanks for understanding. The reason I write it is that you call it producers’ secret weapon, so everyone wants to hear something in this regard. I know how powerful this synth can be, unfortunately, you did not cover even 3% of its possibilities. Functional review may take 3-4 minutes, not 20+. And deep dive is creating some unique and useful sound, not combining oscillators. Also, always record sound directly from synth’s output, you can’t make a proper demo capturing it by cam. Yes, you will need to edit it before publishing to add a track with your voice. This kind of sound is just useless. But don’t use any fx (unless you have some top hardware reverb/delay, and only for some episodes).
Well, there appears to be a serious lack of understanding coupled with outright misrepresentation about several aspects of this video, plus it seems you just want to argue for argument’s sake - but let me humor you, step by step, as I dont want there to be flat-out wrong and untrue statements being made about how and why this video was made: 1) “secret weapon” means “used on many tracks and by many producers without it being widely known - unlike the Minimoog eg”. It does NOT mean “has sounds no other instrument in the universe is able to produce” with an obligation to demonstrate such sounds. 2) I cover ALL (ie 100%) of the synths synthesis capabilties and I expressly say its great for experimenting given its modulation layout - which, by definition and just like with any other synth, means that its impossible to cover all the sounds its capabie of. 3) If you feel otherwise, feel free to grab a couple of 8k cameras for razor-sharp images and give it a go - Im sure the whole internet is waiting for that. But make sure to do it in under 3-4mins to not waste our time with unnecessary fluff. 4) You are very wrong about the audio - you cannot get such full sound just by recording via the cam mic. This comment is utterly ridiculous and just goes to show how limited your understanding is while, at the same time, jumping to wrong conclusions. So, for the record (pun intended), the audio was recorded as follows: Pro One into Apollo 8 interface into DAW on one track and spoken audio (including room sound) into lav mic (to minimize audio bleed) into Apollo 8 interface into DAW on second track, monitoring during recording via headphones, again to minimize bleed. Tracks were mixed using side-chain compression to give priority to the voice/room sounds (including sounds of switches/knobs on the synth) - as is typical on any good and professionally made video I have seen. So you are actually listening to the direct OUT sound of the synth with the added room sound so you can hear when a switch is flipped when it is shown in the video. 5) Lastly - and most importantly - it is beyond my understanding that a video that I made in good faith in an effort to share (without any financial motivation) what I know, to show a synth that someone may be curious about, to maybe help someone - simply a video made purely with good energy and to share good energy - now suddenly prompts someone like you to take your valuable time and write rude and untrue comments filled with negativity about how YOU want the video to be. It just boggles my mind. Wishing you a very productive evening.
@@ksmusiclounge1648 oh, seems like you try to convince me that my comment should be complimentary. This is not how it works. I definitely CAN make good videos and good sounds on many respectful synths (which I own), but this is completely another story. Why you think I have to be able to make something better in order to have right to say you did it bad? Yes, you did it bad. If someone wants to know synth’s specifications, he can grab the manual. Your description of synth’s layout is useless until you bring some juicy sounds into the game. And this comment is not rude, it is just truthful. This video is 23 minutes of nothing. You may like it or you may not, this is your right. If you wanna make proper videos you can take it to the account. If you don’t, just ignore it and stay where you are.
I had my Pro one for around 10 years.....rarely used it because I couldn't really grasp the ins and outs of the machine and concentrated on my polysynths. I really held onto it because I saw how the prices kept going up. However after taking it out of storage I found it clacky with crackles when knobs were turned....so I had it serviced and put it up for sale. Someone asked if I would be interested in swapping it with the Pro3 .....looked into what that machine could do......and agreed . Chalk and cheese !!! Love what the Pro 3 is capable of compared to the rather restrictive sounds of the Pro 1.
My SCi Pro One rocks harder than any 10:33 synth I know. The filter is so strong and the envelopes so quick it’s unreal. Love triggering the built in Sequencer via the external clock in with a Roland TR-08 / 707 / 06 / DR-110 drum machine. No wonder it’s Vince Clarke’s favourite synth of all time.
Purchased my Pro One in 1984. Still have it today
A couple of additional features with this synth model.
Easily repaired, easy to maintain. This contributes to long life and reliability. (This excludes the Pratt-Read membrane keybed. Replace immediately if you have one)
The rear panel CV connections. This is an ideal CV controller for Eurorack or any other CV synth.
Sequencer key change. While the sequencer is running, you can change the key by pressing a note on the keyboard. from C0 to C2. C1 is the normal, recorded key.
Arpegiator latch- while holding notes for an arp, swith the REC/PLAY switch into REC position. This will latch the arp.
Hey fellow old-timer, I've had my Pro-One about the same amount of time, Don't use it much but it still works well, despite never having been serviced. Another great feature worth mentioning is that it can be triggered by any rhythmic audio source, via the audio input, and can then be used as a CV and gate controller.
Thanks for the additional info George!
Yeah absolutely, it will respond to external triggers so any rhythmical pattern is achievable. Thank man!
Aha that's how you use the app, cheers
The arp you mean? Right?
Got one back in the 80's, the mono limitation was the big reason eventually got rid of it ( and in those days, affordable synth meant it was mono ). But yes, it's great at bass and the modulation controls were very good. External input so you could run a guitar through the modulation for example.
Secret weapon of EBM bands worldwide
For some of them.
I owned one in 82. Great synths. I just bought the Behringer clone.
Good choice!
Very Nice ! We have a Pro one. Regards from Portugal
It was the early Skinny Puppy synth.
According to cEvin Key on his patreon its been used on every single Skinny Puppy song... same with the lexicon pcm 41 digital delay
Also Vince Clark’s favourite mono…
@@ksmusiclounge1648 Yeah! With Depeche mode and Yazoo!
Yup
thanks for this!
You are very welcome my friend!
I bought one of these in 1985, I was passing a junk shop and it was in the window, it was so cheap it would have been criminal not to buy it, I was a guitarist and bought it just for some accompaniment, I had a 4 track recorder and thought it would add a little something to some guitar parts I had recorded.
I didn't really sound as good as i thought it would and after the fun had worn off I hardly touched it, I bought some rack effects units that included a reverb, delay and chorus and an 8 channel mixer that had aux sends that I used the effects with, it was at that point that the Pro One became usable for me,
I later realised that my 4 track had a single aux send, although to be fair I didn't know what one did before I asked what they were when I bought the mixer.
Nice video...sounds harsher/more punchy than the Behringer clone
Havent had the Behringer under my fingers yet - great to hear that the OG sounds better 👍
I just love Behringer synths.
Cant beat the price
First synth, still have it and manual.
Its me or the video is only 360 dpi, anyway excellent content. I'm subscribing
Thanx man! Its actually full hd on a canon eos and the side view is my iphone. Lower res on the iphone but better image quality - I had the wrong fps/shutter speed setting on the canon which caused the terrible flicker… sorry for that 🤦🏻♂️ learning as i go…
@@ksmusiclounge1648 RUclips is only making it available to us at 360p or less, regardless of what it was filmed on.
@@ksmusiclounge1648 Yes, this is only 360p here on RUclips. Something must have gone wrong. Also the sound seems also to be recorded with some kind of external microphone and not directly from the Synths output.
Its the output but I mixed in a bit of the room with side chain to duck the room sound. I wanted the sound of the synth sound to be crisp and to have the sound of the button switching at the same time.
All his videos are in 360p resolution. I don't think he knows how to render his videos in HD. It sucks because 360p on RUclips uses a much lower audio ɓitrate than higher resolutions so we aren't hearing this at it's best
👍
Pity behringer made a clone of this synth without patch memory like the original 😭
Yeah same for the Minimoog… its the one modification no one would have complained about!
@@ksmusiclounge1648 exactly! Behringer model D
Yeah but to be fair to them they're selling these new versions for pennies. If they were charging 3k for them then you'd expect all sorts of bells and whistles.
@@hb-fc3jj In the 80's the used market was flooded with people trying to sell their Minimoogs.
@@treetopjones737
I'm well aware, I bought a Juno 6 in the early 90s for £120 and a half oz of red Leb
No memory locations? Oh man, thank goodness for tablets and phones with cameras - the only way to recall your patch…
But fully analog cv without stepping. There’s always trade-offs.
The manual included ( a few pages I think ) a graphic of the controls so you could manually mark a picture of all your settings. Tablets and cell phones didn't exist.
@@ksmusiclounge1648 I was referring to using old analog gear today. We can snap an image of a patch on our device. . .Ah yes, the beauty of analogue. I have a an amp simulator stomp box for my electric harmonica. I tried several digital devices, all of them gave me horrible digital artifacts. I found a tube driven simulator, the “Harp Attack” - all analogue. It kicks a*** on my tin sandwich.
it sounds too cold for me
video and audio quality is very poor. check your signal chain.
I set the wrong shutter speed 🤦🏻♂️ audio is a mix of DI and mic, I wanted the room to be heard a bit, both are mixed and side chained.
at 4:53 Where you say "that's a fat sound" it sounds like garbage, i'd re-do this whole thing
Thanks, Im taking comments to heart - check out my latest video, I’ve dropped the room sound completely, we’ll see how that is received. Im a small channel so Im dialing things in as I go. Take care and keep making music!
ok great explanation....but your voice is louder than the synth....??? I cant really turn up the volume, as soon as you start talking have to lower volume. wheres my back button? let me outta here
🤷🏻♂️ sorry to see you go
I’m currently at 14:00 and still did not hear ANY more or less good sound. Definitely not a demo of “secret weapon”. And still in 360dpi, bad light. The synth itself is not well positioned in the frame, and the audio captured by camera with all keyboard and switching noises included. For 2011 video is fine, but in 2023...
This video is not a demo but rather an in-depth review with a lot of talking. The sheer power of the two oscillators combined best suited for fat bass can be heard around the 4:40 mark where I discuss the oscillators and the filter. As I mentioned in the description, I had the wrong fps/shutter speed setting, unfortunately I didnt realize this until after the footage was shot. Its actually in full HD but the flicker makes it seem lower res although it isnt. Hopefully you will enjoy my other and/or future videos - as a beginning channel I cannot compete with the production value of the big ones that we are used to watching but hopefully the quality of my content and the honest intention to make good videos will resonate with enough people for this channel to grow and become something. I am certainly committed to this path and appreciate every single comment - even critical ones. So thanks for your comment!
@@ksmusiclounge1648 thanks for understanding. The reason I write it is that you call it producers’ secret weapon, so everyone wants to hear something in this regard. I know how powerful this synth can be, unfortunately, you did not cover even 3% of its possibilities. Functional review may take 3-4 minutes, not 20+. And deep dive is creating some unique and useful sound, not combining oscillators. Also, always record sound directly from synth’s output, you can’t make a proper demo capturing it by cam. Yes, you will need to edit it before publishing to add a track with your voice. This kind of sound is just useless. But don’t use any fx (unless you have some top hardware reverb/delay, and only for some episodes).
Well, there appears to be a serious lack of understanding coupled with outright misrepresentation about several aspects of this video, plus it seems you just want to argue for argument’s sake - but let me humor you, step by step, as I dont want there to be flat-out wrong and untrue statements being made about how and why this video was made:
1) “secret weapon” means “used on many tracks and by many producers without it being widely known - unlike the Minimoog eg”.
It does NOT mean “has sounds no other instrument in the universe is able to produce” with an obligation to demonstrate such sounds.
2) I cover ALL (ie 100%) of the synths synthesis capabilties and I expressly say its great for experimenting given its modulation layout - which, by definition and just like with any other synth, means that its impossible to cover all the sounds its capabie of.
3) If you feel otherwise, feel free to grab a couple of 8k cameras for razor-sharp images and give it a go - Im sure the whole internet is waiting for that. But make sure to do it in under 3-4mins to not waste our time with unnecessary fluff.
4) You are very wrong about the audio - you cannot get such full sound just by recording via the cam mic. This comment is utterly ridiculous and just goes to show how limited your understanding is while, at the same time, jumping to wrong conclusions.
So, for the record (pun intended), the audio was recorded as follows: Pro One into Apollo 8 interface into DAW on one track and spoken audio (including room sound) into lav mic (to minimize audio bleed) into Apollo 8 interface into DAW on second track, monitoring during recording via headphones, again to minimize bleed. Tracks were mixed using side-chain compression to give priority to the voice/room sounds (including sounds of switches/knobs on the synth) - as is typical on any good and professionally made video I have seen. So you are actually listening to the direct OUT sound of the synth with the added room sound so you can hear when a switch is flipped when it is shown in the video.
5) Lastly - and most importantly - it is beyond my understanding that a video that I made in good faith in an effort to share (without any financial motivation) what I know, to show a synth that someone may be curious about, to maybe help someone - simply a video made purely with good energy and to share good energy - now suddenly prompts someone like you to take your valuable time and write rude and untrue comments filled with negativity about how YOU want the video to be. It just boggles my mind.
Wishing you a very productive evening.
@@ksmusiclounge1648 oh, seems like you try to convince me that my comment should be complimentary. This is not how it works. I definitely CAN make good videos and good sounds on many respectful synths (which I own), but this is completely another story. Why you think I have to be able to make something better in order to have right to say you did it bad? Yes, you did it bad. If someone wants to know synth’s specifications, he can grab the manual. Your description of synth’s layout is useless until you bring some juicy sounds into the game. And this comment is not rude, it is just truthful. This video is 23 minutes of nothing. You may like it or you may not, this is your right. If you wanna make proper videos you can take it to the account. If you don’t, just ignore it and stay where you are.