Lemme being honest, I was even surprised by Nayeon's attitude at sixteen era( Don't attack me, I have seen all episodes of sixteen and I'm a once too) , She was very confident everytime even others are shaking in fear . Like she already knew what's going to happen. But let's leave it , it is a past.
I understand Nayeon's attitude during the sixteen era because they were competing in a survival show so there's extra pressure put on the contestants just so they can win and debut, Nayeon being the eldest contestant and having a failed debut, well of course she'd be this competitive (this could've been her last shot to debut). I think the show just brought out her worst sides due to the environment they were in and all the extra pressure and hardwork they had to go through.
this is so dumb… for nayeon, in sixteen era, she was clearly evil edited. You could see that the others really liked her, and twice even talked about being close with nayeon since sixteen era. Let’s not lie here.
Most of these shows are heavily edited and sometimes the staff even purposely agitate or aggravate the idols just to get the reaction they wanted to capture. Most people off camera say she's a nice person and her members have no problem being around her. I think before raising pitchforks we should keep an open mind to look at more perspectives
About Winter, the members call her caring and say that she takes care of them and cooks for them when they get sick. She just gets awkward being all cheesy in the camera, and she only plays around with people she really likes. Wtf are wrong with these netizens?😭 And just because she doesn't keep on complimenting the other members, that doesn't mean she doesn't like them or anything. She is just shy giving out compliments to others. And she is probably one of the most brutally honest idols out there. Some of such idols are Tzuyu, Lucas, Jessica, Krystal,Jisoo and more.
And these are idols people often have so much negative things to say about cause they don’t bow down to people and just do whatever they say or be however way they want them to be, people complain about fakeness but when idols are real and themselves people also have an issue with it, they don’t seem to know wth they want from idols, they just seem to love to complain and find issues with people well i hope all them remain themselves and don’t change for anyone but themselves cause all them are some of favs cause of their realness
Sometimes certain fans read far to much into otherwise harmless interactions, falsify evidence by chopping up/editing video clips as proof, maliciously attack idols for showing any emotion that isn't happy, spread misinformation like wild fire and I can go on. This witch hunting isn't for all scenarios clearly but it does happen a lot for both male and female idol groups, for example a simple play fight then suddenly the masses are saying one group member in particular b*llies their other group members. 😃 I swear certain fans never learn, yet want to speak about an idols mental health like they're not contributing to worsening it to begin with.
I agree, but I do understand that when a group member you like gets teased in a rude way, it can look like the other is being mean. That whole “stealing” the crown thing seems silly; she’s messing with the other. I do agree that if Giselle won the game, she should have picked the sweaters; I think that’s unfair. And with Nayeon, I’m just tired of her getting way to much lines in Twice songs, because honestly it feels like it’s her songs with other Twice members being featured artists. I’m still baffled at why she needed a solo debut, when other members (Jihyo and Jeongyeon) should get it due to having less time in Twice songs anymore.
@@adamsmoberly honestly it might just be that her voice suites their songs more, because her voice is that of a person who you'd think would be singing in cute concept songs and/or the other members didn't want that much lines to begin with...either way we can never really give groups equal lines because if a member is more focused on rapping they shouldnt be forced to sing lines but yeah i agree that nayeon should've had her solo after few other members had theirs
Im imagining that Netizens are people behind their PCs/Phones and don't go out and do social actions,instead they jugde about people they don't know and are jealous of them.
You must be a bully then. Good thing that you are not one of my "friend" coz i don't need a friend who "poke fun" at me and behaved so self centered and always want to steal attention. Real friends don't do that.
As a MY who is following aespa for a while now, I can say that Winter doesn't seem rude to me. Her interactions with the other members and with fans during fan meetings are either her joking around or being very nice and respectful. Saying she's rude because she gave Ning an ugly sweater is like saying your grandma is rude for giving you a piece of clothing that you don't like. Also, they were just having fun. And about the eye roll thing... Is she not allowed to be slightly annoyed at times? If I was forced to always look like my life is all sunshine and rainbows, I wouldn't enjoy that. Her life (an idol's life in general) is so much different from our lives and we don't know what goes on behind the scenes 24/7. But that's just my biased point of view. I don't think she's rude or an attention seeker. Just a little goofball here and there. And that's why I like her a lot!
i kinda agree, Nayeon was quite arrogant back in the debut time... she has changed a lot since then she's a more loving and humble person now! she's also my bias in twice 😁
I think u should know that Nayeon was so scared during Sixteen era that she used to cry holding Jeongyeon's hands in her dorm everyday like she was just a victim of bad editing. If you'll watch Sixteen then you'll see how she cried at every trainee's whether she was close with the person or not
@@srishtidesai2798 Okay, but I'm pretty sure there's a difference between actually being arrogant and "playing" arrogance to gain attention for yourself in a limited amount of time she'd have on camera. THAT 16 competition was the one chance for her, Jihyo, and Jeonyeong to be in a group together like they'd always said they would.
Naeyon indeed had some superiority complex during early days of her career .. I remember during some kind of event they teamed her up with sungjin and some one else (i forgot who it was .. long time ago ) they made sungjin talk more but Nae 's responses where cold to his jokes and seem like Sungjin was also felt uncomfortable with that .. and it maybe because Day6 considered inferior to other groups in the company during those days .. but i won't blame her though .. she was too young to understand that ...
Nayeon and TWICE members constantly joke with each other and often times use rank as part of the joke. It’s harmless and they all laugh at it. If she was what they accuse her of being then they would not have lasted and thrived for the past 7 years. Watching them, you can see the love all members have for each other and it’s truly a wonderful sight to see. Their bond is magical. Once again it’s people writing their own narrative to bring the top GG down. Truly pathetic.
@@keepitreal7831 exactly! I love their dynamic and it makes me smile how goofy they can be. I remember one time when Nayeon said the members wanted to grill her and she made this pouty face. Just a bunch of jokesters..lol
Although I like Nayeon, when she rank her members especially Tzuyu and Jeongyeon I was quite sad and even as a joke I don't think it's funny cause if one of my close friends put me down in a lw rank I will also be quite sad. Maybe it's a inside joke of theirs that we don't know but I think the way she put it can trigger many fans.
I have two things to say First they are group so they need to pretend to be nice to each other but reality can be different Second it's allegedly We can't say that much Because we don't know How they are to each other
Plus, some idols are force to have a personnality. SM have concept for them and that includes their personnality and they should act. So, blame companies too not only them
@@njarasoarumpf8464 I hate that fake petsona thing. Y can't they just keep their own natural personality? That's y fans don't see idols as normal humans 🙄
@@itsscary-_-5127 yeah and people put here are delusional to that fact. They think they are all besties. They forget that they were put into a group by the company. And noticed most idols have friends not just outside their group but completed different companies.
Thank God I'm not an idol and I feel winter situation is one of the reasons Y she doesn't interact a lot in front of the camera or show personality cuz ppl will just put assumptions on who ur as person and pretend they know everything bout u just by one or 2 videos on the internet
The 2nd idol...migyo ,never heard of her but damn...if it's true ,then it's not cool but some idols are not always nice and have to do it for the cameras.....peaple can't suddenly make conclusions
People should realize, being together in a group, doesnt mean they r bestie. Btw im not hating on winter but watching her actio. inthe christmas show aespa was pretty cringy
Here my unpopular opinion I think it’s really true that most of idols are rude or attention seekers But as we know,K-pop fans wouldn’t ever accept this fact When you said something about their idols,K-pop fans will attack you and say you’re a hater. Open your eyes, don’t idolize anyone who you don’t They’re human too, so they can really not like others,you can just say they are pure only because you like them. Some of them are really narcissistic And sorry for my poor English,isn’t my first language.
You are right but as a fan we have seen more of them. Not just some random heavily edited clips to make them look bad. We do watch the full showcase and know more than the evil edited videos. That’s why we defend some idols because some video clips are evilly edited, when in actual the scenario was different
You are absolutely right. Studies show that people with a narcissistic or histrionic personality disorder or traits gravitate to careers such as performers or politicians where they can get attention, following, and power. Everyone in kpop has a fake personality because they have to pretend to be "perfect". It amazes me how people think these personalities are actually their real selves, wow!
winter is generally dont like taking selfies, there was a times when for months she never updated her IG and bubble with new pic, until many fans talked about it. she said a couple of times too that she didnt like selfies. even the cameraman/staff was asked her about it. just watch and knows her personality 1st before judging her. the videos are free to watch, its not like you have to pay for it. of course people will defending something that is not true. the thing is, there is a pandemic called SJW, those are people who accusing other people without knowing the truth, they have no evidence, they dont know who and what they are talking about, just accusing for no reason based on 1 short clip. thats why because they are human -__- why you also a human never playfulish games, teased or make fun of your friends??? like never ever once in your life? karina often teased and make fun of winter, but no body said she is a mean or evil. so its OK for people to accusing other people without real evidence and facts??? but its not OK to defense others who had evidence that they are not a bad person??? LOL
Let's just admit it. Winter and Nayeon are their companies favourites and this definitely causes someone to be arrogant. Hopefully these girls will manage this kind of situation because it's really toxic seeing a company, putting all the effort in one single idol who is part of a group!
I only know of winter and nayeon so I’ll only speak on them and I’ll say this people don’t like confident outspoken straight forward don’t bow down to anyone kind of women and winter and nayeon are both very confident outspoken straight forward real women who are always themselves even if people don’t like, they also both have kind of ice cold princess vibe but still can playful joyful and cute as well but people don’t care to get to know that side of them they just judge the more ice cold side cause that’s usually what’s put out there in clips for people to judge and misconstrue but that’s why I like and admire women like winter and nayeon they stay true to themselves and don’t try and be what others want them to be, to please people who don’t like you to begin with or won’t like you no matter what you do so why bother trying to please them, also winter and nayeon have sweet loving caring considerate bubbly playful sides too and people would see that if they just took the time to get to know them beyond a clip to make them look bad, I don’t agree with what neitzens and haters have to say regarding winter and nayeon nor do I think they need to change, although they have but as I said, what you see is what you get with them and I didn’t see what they were doing as being rude but being competitive and just goofing off with friends either way their members seem to love them and they know them better than us and you’d notice the dislike for each other if they really didn’t like each other but I don’t get the sense that winter members dislike her or tzuyu or nayeon members dislike her, can people appear to be someone different than who they actually are, of course but winter and nayeon are true to who they are no false pretenses, what you see is what you get and you either like it or you don’t, if you don’t then go focus on those you like and stop wasting time and energy on those you don’t hating, I certainly don’t waste my time on those I don’t like I’d rather put my time and energy into those I like and I likw winter and nayeon their personalities and who they are
My only issue with Nayeon is that she gets too much time in songs. I’m not saying she’s not talented or whatnot, but that she gets majority of each title track, even more than Jihyo, who’s the main vocalist (and I know Twice vocals aren’t all SM like, but it’s odd in my opinion). I mean Jeongyeon also has the same position (Lead Vocalists) and honestly gets one part at the end and many a couple other parts, which is completely unfair. I feel like the rappers and lower vocalist get more than her. And I’m baffled at Nayeon getting a solo album (not just a single) when Twice songs anymore are Nayeon featuring Twice. I don’t hate, she’s an amazing singer, JYP just needs to put the visual mindset out of the way and let other members shine (like give Nayeon half the chorus and maybe a couple lines; that would help).
I respect your opinion but it’s not her fault getting more lines than others ,she has more lines bcuz she’s the center , all the centers usually get more lined
@@bibbli3684 But they are a big group with fans, so literally wouldn’t change anything. Visuals aren’t hard to see and she’s got her fan cams. Pretty weak excuse from JYP for not fostering their artist’s talent for looks. And in Icon, that’s the only time she got way less lines ever, I think, and she still shined. Not arguing, I just think it’s odd to have 7 backup singers and dancers if you want to focus on a soloist that bad.
During Sixteen, there was a lot of evil editing on Mnet’s part (shocker) to make Nayeon the villain. However, during the show, you could see that the other trainees respected her and looked up to her. Nayeon was also the oldest trainee in the competition, had a failed debut, and has a driven and competitive personality. She takes her role as the oldest seriously and looks after the younger members.
I think that Winter's incidents are really meaningless..... There are many more idols who does even worse than her but they do not get any hate..... Probably because they are male idols, for example there is one idol in a very popular boy group who always rolls his eyes and pushes his face too much on the camera.... Despite not being the center, he prefers to stay in the front or in the center and doesn't even move from that spot.... He made several rude comments and always has that diva attitude when others were having fun but he was overlooked many times because of his enormous popularity..... There are many more idols like this, but it seems like people only point out at the female idols..... I am not even a fan of AESPA, but nitpicking everything they do is really childish and immature And that Nayeon case.... I do believe that she was so proud and had a lot of superiority complex..... I don't know why, maybe it's because she is the company's favorite for sure.... Not only these incidents, I had seen many cases where she had looked down on her members especially Jeongyeon, Tzuyu and Momo....But I think she had changed a bit later and improved her personality.....
@@w1ntercore493 Sorry but I can't reveal his name.... I think you can easily understand by reading my above comment..... This person has insane popularity and I can't afford all the hate comments by his fans who worship him like a God
You’re right but just think, if twice members had beef they wouldn’t have renewed the contract. Literally all the members renewed the contract , it shows that they share a good bond with each other. We can’t judge everything based on some video clips you know how editing works.
I mean we don't know about their true personality.But in two cases maybe the things look different. In winters case,maybe that were fun presents for all of them or it was an idea of a staff member.That eye rolling could come from problems with eyes.I don't know if winter wears glasses or contacts but I had a classmate who riled his eyes when he looked to long on something.And he wore also glasses. In Nayeons case it could be just a joke with the numbers.And that with sixteen maybe they had a fight behind the scene and Nayeons couldn't hold it back.Or the staff told her to do it for drama in the show.I mean that could really be.It are just my theories here.
I've seen someone saying similar about these colored contacts that idols usually wear, it was under a chopped up and edited video of Blackpink's Jennie being rude plus rolling her eyes at others. They're very drying as far as I've read and irritating to the eyes, but especially when they're dried out. Judging how long idols keep appearances or perform, I don't think changing or taking them out is an option.
I agree that winter is spoiled by the company becuz she Always sing the most Always gets the special clothes,but its not her fault somehow the company likes to favoritisim the most popular members
When I first watched aespa videos I felt the same too about Winter, especially while speaking to Giselle? I don't think it's being rude but it's just.. they are colleagues lol not friends. Get this into your head. You can not like a person and still be completely professional around them. Winter just happens to be less fake about it.
It’s interesting about the winter thing and this just proves the misogyny in kpop, but i love key from shinee and whenever he’s forced into doing something, he would often do the same thing as winter. Take the best item for himself, visibly roll his eyes, etc. when he does that it’s funny and charming and but winter, she’s cold and heartless (granted he is also a senior in the industry and everyone will find a way to talk smack about aespa) but i just think it’s weird that it’s so easy for guys to get away with stuff that girls get criticized for
People are still reaching to paint Nayeon as a bad person. Literally on one has ever backed up any of those claims. Also, Nayeon isn't the only member in Twice who jokes and plays around but somehow she's the only one who gets demonized for it. Why? Y'all are just jealous.
who does migyo think she is? She's not even bringing money to her company nor bringing recognition to her group so who she is to complain bully and hurt her other members?🤦♀️ scary to think how some of our fave groups might just really be only bound by contracts and nothing more..😬
To be honest i also thought Winter was a bit attention seeker and selfish esp after that videos 1:57 but now i think its just her personality and not bad intentions
I'm starting to get concerned. Why is there always something bad to say when it comes to female idols? I get drama sells but maybe edit your videos from a neutral perspective or maybe give background to why idols were like this. Getting people to feel a certain way with idols especially female idols is coming off as misogynistic. Everyone has good and bad days and we never see what happens behind the scenes. Also apart from negative comments online there doesn't seem to be much evidence to support most of your claims. It's coming off as lazy to just put up a video with controversy just for drama and quick views
@The Most beautiful Mermaid most of her videos are about girl group that I know but it's alarming that most videos aren't positive. It's usually something bad or controversial about gg. That isn't being a gg bias that's literally coming off as gg anti
I can understand Winter cos when Im with the people Im confortable with I express myself freely but when Im with other people, I tend to be super awkward and unnatural of myself
We all know that Twice relationship in each other is so strong I don't know why they hating Nayeon for being confident..... and Ranking of Twice members is just a Joke.....I remember of their one Vlive that they ranking each other I think it's 2018 and they just having fun Don't take it serious Ok I know that Nayeon's love to Twice members is unconditional
Ugly Christmas sweaters are endearing, meme gifts now and it seems Winter was just excited to give it. People are reaching and need to go out and touch grass if they think that's evil.
Im just geting tired of people hating on winter these days . Like leave the girl alone i dont want u to love her but atleast respect her and leave her alone .i know most of u hate her because she is more popular and more loved than your faves but thats not her fault . LEAVE WINTER ALONE😒
I agree so much, people calling her spoiled because she has the most parts and being yyj's favorite (which isn't her fault she just talented) is such a bs
I don't think what Winter did was wrong but then again she's my favorite in the group so I'm a bit biased. But it's not a big deal cuz tbh all of those sweaters were ugly anyways. And she has a good relationship with all of the members.
Or, and hear me out, people could stop being weird and stop acting like they know or have any control over these people who will never, ever, EVER know they exist.
It's funny how nobody is talking about all of these idols being females only Because only female idols are nitpicked at In winter's case imagine it was a male idol who did the samething all his fans would have praised him for how funny he was for keeping all the good stuff for himself but in the case of a female idol it becomes an attitude scandal Or when nayeon said she was the 1 during their concert a male idol would have been praised for being so funny but it become a scandal when a female idol does it Like we are all not turning a blind eyes to all the male idols that did the same thing but we are all here calling a female idol who did the same a b.lly Double standards
Winter did hold up two sweaters and asked which one, Which NingNing chose that one. But seriously. Winter's like a lost puppy. I can't see her being mean at all.
TWICE and that rank things, it's inside joke . but they know there is misunderstanding so they don't talk about it anymore. what nayeon said is really bad if you don't know about the behind story.
They are in a group and not requred to be best friends. They might not like eacother, they might be super close friends. We don't live with any of them and don't know how they act when they are alone, what are their inside jokes, how their personalities really are ect... Some really might be mean in real life, some can be called mean by someone with a bad purpose, just to bash them. We can never know how someone is if we are not close with them.
did y'all forget that they were literally competing with each other for a spot in a group and when she said that on stage it wasn't long after they debuted.
Oh my gosh, these 'fans' just read too much into their least favorite idols mannerisms and say something they think is right. Say what you want about Nayeon, being rude or evil, but since following them since the beginning of 2021, I have seen nothing but sunshine and rainbows from her in regards to those in her group. She may not be THE leader like Jihyo is, but she takes her mentor role seriously. Plus, her, Dahyun, and Momo (especially Momo) have a great relationship. Some of the funniest of moments between Twice is involving Nayeon, Momo, and Dahyun.
In my real life experience, majority of the beautiful non-celebrity people I've met aren't the nicest. They may not be pure evil but they're not nice, or if they act nice, it's more for their public image than natural kindness. they know they're beautiful and that beauty has power. Most of them (not all-i have met a few genuinely kind beautiful individuals) have a sense of superiority over average-looking people and they can get competitive against fellow beautiful people. i can't believe that ALL kpop idols are pure-hearted and kind just based on statistics. i don't know which ones are horrible and which are not, but i doubt that there's no real bully among them.
Oh pls people on the internet also believed Tzuyu was not that talented and that she was purely visual (if honest JYP commonly picks extreme visuals over talent sometimes as well) either during that time
winter is actually a softie...and sm wants her to portray this cold , mean girl image( cuz that's what sm does ) the real person you should be trashing is migyo lol
I don't believe nayeon is a problem... She has continuously saved members lives look it up.. the whole group is playfully bratty and sister like with each other. Maybe she was depressed that day and he face just couldn't hide it anymore. what if she had a late night and was struggling to stay focused.. they are always busy can't always smile for everyone. And winter did ask opinions on the sweaters. Like Twice those girls are close. And she has a good image from her group mates. I honestly trust the members with knowing whether or not those two are mean or not. The members have no problem with it meaning it's a normal and they think it's funny or cute when they do it like a sister or friend would. This goes to prove how they're every movements are under the microscope of course it could be uncomfortable for them
You know nothing about nayeon..she is the guardian of twice ... Dont you know she saved sana's life from death and also she save momo from car accident and stage accident... Lol this is so bad
@@OnceRainbow im talking about... you dont know her personally. Even tho you know those stuff doesnt mean you know her. Im not taking any sides in this story, i dont care what nayeon did or dont but this "I know what kind of person my idol is" talk is just so weird.
I do think it’s funny when someone is being awful, arrogant, rude disrespectful people think of it as oh they’re just being overconfident know they’re just awful people with Nayeon she’s always been like this since debut she’s been rude disrespectful. She’s always trying to have a spotlight alter her self even 10 now you can tell in certain interviews and rideshare that she wants all the spot like she craves it when she’s the only one who’s had a solo debut and she’s a singer and everything, so why is she trying to grasp all this damn attention
The takeaway from this video is that netizens need to get a life outside of the internet. The winter story is the most innocuous thing I’ve ever seen. People need to get off the internet and work on improving their own lives instead of projecting their negativity onto literal strangers.
i just find it weird that people actually believe group mates are "besties" and fans using "y'all don't know her like we do" as a excuse, kinda sad tho
Tbh I never liked these girls from the start even tho I stan their groups lol i wouldn't say they're totally mean but let's be real yea sometimes they can act like one as much as anyone else can, they're human too...just becuz they're an idol doesn't mean they're an angel
Tbh seeing nayeon now vs in sixteen days is scary. She's still very competitive as jihyo and her are called competitive sisters. But the thing is we have seen so many scripted clips of trainees pretending or doing something else so i can't even put finger on her either. Meanwhile ranking members is not new they play this joke everytime some member looks best in their outfit or feel confident in their outfit.
@@ebenezersuico5055 ofc i will not delete it, im disappointed to this channel that they keep posting these kind of videos for the sake of views but they have such a large number of subscribers
exactly! i've been watching their content for a while now and they never share a story from a different perspective. Like you can see other channels like kookielit and kpop junkie sharing a story from a neutral pov. This channel really made me feel like they are kind of causing fanwars and they seem to act like Sojang but for international fans
That's completely true all idols would do anything for fame, I didn't know that miming and starving yourself on a slave contract was talent. Love them hell no. I don't believe the stuff about naeyon she's amazing
If we see aespa's videos fully and not take them out of context, we will see that winter is actually very playful and teases other gurls but also doesn't overdo it. They all are comfortable with each other hence tease and play with each other a lot. People misunderstand her cause of her rbf probably, but she's very nice to everyone.
BIAS. Migyo had her members defend her and called the staff liars. Y would they do that if she treated them like shit? I dint know who she is but sounds like they lied about her. U like winter and Nayeon so you defend Tham.
@@hannah_rai178 That's cute. Unlike you, I've actually seen what Migyo have done, I've seen some of the staff members around her flinch away from her, I've seen some of the younger staff members leave from her side with bruises on their bodies after Migyo grabbed them forcefully.
Nayeon is confident????? Bringing other members down, making herself superior is confident. Idk her personality now but the clips that was shown. That is very very rude
People are judging them too much. Also Nayeon shouldn't get hate for such a stupid reason because 1.)She might be tired that's why she makes angry expressions. 2.)She didn't even know she was gonna debut with Tzuyu. Come on Idols are humans too I think everyone has done or acted rude at least once in their life. Idols are no different from us and they will be rude sometimes too. Also if you're a real fan why are you hating on them?And you guys will come up with things like "We're trying to 'educate' them." What the? Most of you guys are even younger than these Idols so you know nothing including me. But not gonna lie the 2nd Idol went too far.
@@duaarrietty I was about to say the same thing. How does she know that what they said about the 2nd idol is true? 2 of her former members actually defended her after that rumor came out. It literally says so in the video but she over looked that.
So its only ok to talk down about someone if u are not gonna be in the same group as them? Thoughts remain the same, the only difference is she wont say ir out loud anymore. And what about the things she said about Tzuyu and Jeongyeon during the concert? I like Twice all 9 of them but u cannot be making up excuses like that and then completed judging the 2nd idol just because u dint know them. Her members actually defended her and said the staff was lying.
@@hannah_rai178 It's a joke. I get Nayeon is cold and insensitive sometimes but she's human too. Also it's not her fault she said those things about Tzuyu in SIXTEEN since that's always in Korea especially if it's competition. Now don't attack me because you're gonna tell me again why I didn't defend the 2nd Idol well she's human too she obviously makes mistakes but sometimes those mistakes are bad. And I'm not those type of people who care about popularity you know. I even hate it and you're telling me this? Also I said she went too far not hating on her so why would you say I'm not defending her then?
Sorry girl, You're lacking info . Winter cares about MEMBERS the most especially Giselle. MAYBE SHE IS JOKING AROUND, YOU CAN'T JUDGE HER TOO EASILY Winter is a ATTENTION seeker like what a Joke? She is already the most popular member.
I always thought that RM of BTS was rude to other rappers of BTS and Jimin. Yesterday I watched a video where RM admitted that he was rude to Suga in early times. I think he was jealous of Suga
Nope I assume that it was bcz of the ideas and preferences. Since rap line takes part in the production of songs it must be normal to accept or reject other's opinion. They might have argued over certain concept or style of music. I think it was more about the varrying opinions not the jealousy.
Still Nayeon placing herself 1st and the others below her...thats just nasty...Even if it is fact Ive never heard off that being done by other large groups. Its cruel in a way too the other two girls must have frlt low at that point Tzuyu is more beautiful than her i can see why she would be catty at times.
Hey BeBoss TV!I love your channel so much but I'm noticing that you're videos are sometimes toxic. Idols are getting hate because of it. Also you lack information sometimes. Wouldn't it be more nice if you start making more happy videos?I'm just sharing my opinion because I feel bad for the Idols getting hate for nothing or something they didn't do. It's getting out of hand.
I've noticed this as well. She especially seems to be targeting female idols the most. The amount of videos with male idols and the amount with female ones are vastly different. There's always something bad to say when it comes to female idols and she doesn't add disclaimers or warnings so viewers just blindly assume she's telling the truth. It's giving pick me vibes
@@im_yingying bringing up old stuff literally is so toxic they got hated bc of those things n to bring it up even though their just rumors or taken out of context is just dumb
if winter is rude so what its not necessary to be friends and be in good relationship with other members and the Xmas clip i didnt find it rude and just some minutes clip makes her rude, then u all ,who procrastinates and dont do anything are of no use and burden on earth why ? bcz i saw a clip of u all playing games and procrastinate , judging others is easy when it comes to urself u all gets boiled up lol two faced
She’s not though have you never not had moments of being cheeky or a smart ass with your friends, I mean c’mon some of y’all are being ridiculous like that just makes a person completely rude and not nice as if winter was completely rude and mean the whole video which she wasn’t
@@lovelydiva06 thats why i wrote even if she is rude ,bcz ik minjeong isnt like that, iam winter biased and i never saw her being rude ,but i just took a example chill girl chill
Lemme being honest, I was even surprised by Nayeon's attitude at sixteen era( Don't attack me, I have seen all episodes of sixteen and I'm a once too) , She was very confident everytime even others are shaking in fear . Like she already knew what's going to happen. But let's leave it , it is a past.
I understand Nayeon's attitude during the sixteen era because they were competing in a survival show so there's extra pressure put on the contestants just so they can win and debut, Nayeon being the eldest contestant and having a failed debut, well of course she'd be this competitive (this could've been her last shot to debut). I think the show just brought out her worst sides due to the environment they were in and all the extra pressure and hardwork they had to go through.
this is so dumb… for nayeon, in sixteen era, she was clearly evil edited. You could see that the others really liked her, and twice even talked about being close with nayeon since sixteen era. Let’s not lie here.
Most of these shows are heavily edited and sometimes the staff even purposely agitate or aggravate the idols just to get the reaction they wanted to capture. Most people off camera say she's a nice person and her members have no problem being around her. I think before raising pitchforks we should keep an open mind to look at more perspectives
I watched SIXTEEN but I didn't even pay attention to that until this video came
@@straynayeon I noticed it in the episode at first time as she had a confidence that she is going to enter as the first major member.
About Winter, the members call her caring and say that she takes care of them and cooks for them when they get sick. She just gets awkward being all cheesy in the camera, and she only plays around with people she really likes. Wtf are wrong with these netizens?😭
And just because she doesn't keep on complimenting the other members, that doesn't mean she doesn't like them or anything. She is just shy giving out compliments to others. And she is probably one of the most brutally honest idols out there. Some of such idols are Tzuyu, Lucas, Jessica, Krystal,Jisoo and more.
SM force her to be cold and to match the personnality they planned for her.
Blame SME not her
and she's the only introvert in aespa so it's pretty understandable
And these are idols people often have so much negative things to say about cause they don’t bow down to people and just do whatever they say or be however way they want them to be, people complain about fakeness but when idols are real and themselves people also have an issue with it, they don’t seem to know wth they want from idols, they just seem to love to complain and find issues with people well i hope all them remain themselves and don’t change for anyone but themselves cause all them are some of favs cause of their realness
Agree 💯👍 true words ✌️
Do you expect the members just a flat out say she’s awful she’s horrible she’s mean on live television and interviews and etc
The thing with Winter is that if she gave the lilac cardigan to any other member she would be criticized for 'favouritism ' towards the member
That's exactly what I was thinking, or that member would be criticized
Sometimes certain fans read far to much into otherwise harmless interactions, falsify evidence by chopping up/editing video clips as proof, maliciously attack idols for showing any emotion that isn't happy, spread misinformation like wild fire and I can go on. This witch hunting isn't for all scenarios clearly but it does happen a lot for both male and female idol groups, for example a simple play fight then suddenly the masses are saying one group member in particular b*llies their other group members. 😃 I swear certain fans never learn, yet want to speak about an idols mental health like they're not contributing to worsening it to begin with.
I agree, but I do understand that when a group member you like gets teased in a rude way, it can look like the other is being mean. That whole “stealing” the crown thing seems silly; she’s messing with the other.
I do agree that if Giselle won the game, she should have picked the sweaters; I think that’s unfair. And with Nayeon, I’m just tired of her getting way to much lines in Twice songs, because honestly it feels like it’s her songs with other Twice members being featured artists. I’m still baffled at why she needed a solo debut, when other members (Jihyo and Jeongyeon) should get it due to having less time in Twice songs anymore.
@@adamsmoberly honestly it might just be that her voice suites their songs more, because her voice is that of a person who you'd think would be singing in cute concept songs and/or the other members didn't want that much lines to begin with...either way we can never really give groups equal lines because if a member is more focused on rapping they shouldnt be forced to sing lines but yeah i agree that nayeon should've had her solo after few other members had theirs
The Winter one makes me laugh. She's literally just poking fun with her friends. These netizens must not have friends.
Im imagining that Netizens are people behind their PCs/Phones and don't go out and do social actions,instead they jugde about people they don't know and are jealous of them.
@@MaKiKas this is so true lol even i act and joke like that around my siblings-
@@thisuserleft ikr I do that with my siblings we just laugh
@@MaKiKas thus they are called netizens 🤣
You must be a bully then. Good thing that you are not one of my "friend" coz i don't need a friend who "poke fun" at me and behaved so self centered and always want to steal attention.
Real friends don't do that.
People are judging them too much
And sadly this phenomenon is almost everywhere now
yeah armchair expert and SJW pandemic, breeds by social medias.
As a MY who is following aespa for a while now, I can say that Winter doesn't seem rude to me. Her interactions with the other members and with fans during fan meetings are either her joking around or being very nice and respectful. Saying she's rude because she gave Ning an ugly sweater is like saying your grandma is rude for giving you a piece of clothing that you don't like. Also, they were just having fun. And about the eye roll thing... Is she not allowed to be slightly annoyed at times? If I was forced to always look like my life is all sunshine and rainbows, I wouldn't enjoy that. Her life (an idol's life in general) is so much different from our lives and we don't know what goes on behind the scenes 24/7. But that's just my biased point of view. I don't think she's rude or an attention seeker. Just a little goofball here and there. And that's why I like her a lot!
Louder!!!
Yes
Agree💯
exactly! and she often made funny faces too, its not the 1st times she do that
i kinda agree, Nayeon was quite arrogant back in the debut time...
she has changed a lot since then
she's a more loving and humble person now!
she's also my bias in twice 😁
I think u should know that Nayeon was so scared during Sixteen era that she used to cry holding Jeongyeon's hands in her dorm everyday like she was just a victim of bad editing. If you'll watch Sixteen then you'll see how she cried at every trainee's whether she was close with the person or not
@@nolo9588 Yo everyone at that age were arrogant its not a bad thing its a part of growing and no ones insulting nayeon
@@srishtidesai2798 Okay, but I'm pretty sure there's a difference between actually being arrogant and "playing" arrogance to gain attention for yourself in a limited amount of time she'd have on camera. THAT 16 competition was the one chance for her, Jihyo, and Jeonyeong to be in a group together like they'd always said they would.
@@srishtidesai2798how could you assume she was arrogant just bc you saw clips of her during the sixteen 😭 Pretty sure she was nice behind the scenes.
Not to forget, she is the most kissing person now 😊
Naeyon indeed had some superiority complex during early days of her career .. I remember during some kind of event they teamed her up with sungjin and some one else (i forgot who it was .. long time ago ) they made sungjin talk more but Nae 's responses where cold to his jokes and seem like Sungjin was also felt uncomfortable with that .. and it maybe because Day6 considered inferior to other groups in the company during those days .. but i won't blame her though .. she was too young to understand that ...
Yes, let's judges the idols base on what we saw on cam.
@@fighting829 fact
She still does
@@Rationalist101 wtf how
@@Streamidentity_misamo It's obvious
Nayeon and TWICE members constantly joke with each other and often times use rank as part of the joke. It’s harmless and they all laugh at it. If she was what they accuse her of being then they would not have lasted and thrived for the past 7 years. Watching them, you can see the love all members have for each other and it’s truly a wonderful sight to see. Their bond is magical. Once again it’s people writing their own narrative to bring the top GG down. Truly pathetic.
Even Nayeon got called as the number 9 in terms of visual by all TWICE member. And of course it's a joke to tease her.
@@keepitreal7831 exactly! I love their dynamic and it makes me smile how goofy they can be. I remember one time when Nayeon said the members wanted to grill her and she made this pouty face. Just a bunch of jokesters..lol
Although I like Nayeon, when she rank her members especially Tzuyu and Jeongyeon I was quite sad and even as a joke I don't think it's funny cause if one of my close friends put me down in a lw rank I will also be quite sad. Maybe it's a inside joke of theirs that we don't know but I think the way she put it can trigger many fans.
But Nayeon also called as the 9th member in terms of the visual. That nick name was made by all TWICE members. It's just a joke
Same, it was really rude of her, like she's not even the leader why she even talking
I have two things to say
First they are group so they need to pretend to be nice to each other but reality can be different
Second it's allegedly
We can't say that much
Because we don't know
How they are to each other
Exactly many idols pretend to be close even if they aren't in real life bcz that's a part of there job. But these allegations are just bogus lol.
Plus, some idols are force to have a personnality. SM have concept for them and that includes their personnality and they should act.
So, blame companies too not only them
@@njarasoarumpf8464 I hate that fake petsona thing.
Y can't they just keep their own natural personality?
That's y fans don't see idols as normal humans 🙄
@@itsscary-_-5127 yeah and people put here are delusional to that fact. They think they are all besties. They forget that they were put into a group by the company. And noticed most idols have friends not just outside their group but completed different companies.
@@hannah_rai178 Exactly
You just have to accept that not all group members are friends.
What's wrong with thaf winter's scene? They are just having fun with her besties. Netizens are so stupid 🤦🏻♀️
Thank God I'm not an idol and I feel winter situation is one of the reasons Y she doesn't interact a lot in front of the camera or show personality cuz ppl will just put assumptions on who ur as person and pretend they know everything bout u just by one or 2 videos on the internet
The 2nd idol...migyo ,never heard of her but damn...if it's true ,then it's not cool but some idols are not always nice and have to do it for the cameras.....peaple can't suddenly make conclusions
People should realize, being together in a group, doesnt mean they r bestie. Btw im not hating on winter but watching her actio. inthe christmas show aespa was pretty cringy
Y’all call everything cringe Jesus😭
@crunchmunchsweettreats cuz it is🌸 mwah 🎀
Here my unpopular opinion
I think it’s really true that most of idols are rude or attention seekers
But as we know,K-pop fans wouldn’t ever accept this fact
When you said something about their idols,K-pop fans will attack you and say you’re a hater.
Open your eyes, don’t idolize anyone who you don’t
They’re human too, so they can really not like others,you can just say they are pure only because you like them.
Some of them are really narcissistic
And sorry for my poor English,isn’t my first language.
You are right but as a fan we have seen more of them. Not just some random heavily edited clips to make them look bad. We do watch the full showcase and know more than the evil edited videos. That’s why we defend some idols because some video clips are evilly edited, when in actual the scenario was different
Agreed 💯
You are absolutely right. Studies show that people with a narcissistic or histrionic personality disorder or traits gravitate to careers such as performers or politicians where they can get attention, following, and power. Everyone in kpop has a fake personality because they have to pretend to be "perfect". It amazes me how people think these personalities are actually their real selves, wow!
winter is generally dont like taking selfies,
there was a times when for months she never updated her IG and bubble with new pic, until many fans talked about it.
she said a couple of times too that she didnt like selfies.
even the cameraman/staff was asked her about it.
just watch and knows her personality 1st before judging her.
the videos are free to watch, its not like you have to pay for it.
of course people will defending something that is not true.
the thing is, there is a pandemic called SJW, those are people who accusing other people without knowing the truth, they have no evidence, they dont know who and what they are talking about, just accusing for no reason based on 1 short clip.
thats why because they are human -__- why you also a human never playfulish games, teased or make fun of your friends??? like never ever once in your life?
karina often teased and make fun of winter, but no body said she is a mean or evil.
so its OK for people to accusing other people without real evidence and facts???
but its not OK to defense others who had evidence that they are not a bad person??? LOL
@@laylamage5218 every videos can't be evil edited
Let's just admit it. Winter and Nayeon are their companies favourites and this definitely causes someone to be arrogant. Hopefully these girls will manage this kind of situation because it's really toxic seeing a company, putting all the effort in one single idol who is part of a group!
Nah I think it's Nayeon and both winter and Karina
notice how all of these are female idols? it's the ✨misoginy✨
notice how u make everything abt misogyny and "girl love" girl stfu
I only know of winter and nayeon so I’ll only speak on them and I’ll say this people don’t like confident outspoken straight forward don’t bow down to anyone kind of women and winter and nayeon are both very confident outspoken straight forward real women who are always themselves even if people don’t like, they also both have kind of ice cold princess vibe but still can playful joyful and cute as well but people don’t care to get to know that side of them they just judge the more ice cold side cause that’s usually what’s put out there in clips for people to judge and misconstrue but that’s why I like and admire women like winter and nayeon they stay true to themselves and don’t try and be what others want them to be, to please people who don’t like you to begin with or won’t like you no matter what you do so why bother trying to please them, also winter and nayeon have sweet loving caring considerate bubbly playful sides too and people would see that if they just took the time to get to know them beyond a clip to make them look bad, I don’t agree with what neitzens and haters have to say regarding winter and nayeon nor do I think they need to change, although they have but as I said, what you see is what you get with them and I didn’t see what they were doing as being rude but being competitive and just goofing off with friends either way their members seem to love them and they know them better than us and you’d notice the dislike for each other if they really didn’t like each other but I don’t get the sense that winter members dislike her or tzuyu or nayeon members dislike her, can people appear to be someone different than who they actually are, of course but winter and nayeon are true to who they are no false pretenses, what you see is what you get and you either like it or you don’t, if you don’t then go focus on those you like and stop wasting time and energy on those you don’t hating, I certainly don’t waste my time on those I don’t like I’d rather put my time and energy into those I like and I likw winter and nayeon their personalities and who they are
the clip showing Winter rolling her eyes...is how I roll my eyes when I am trying to remember something 🤣🤣
My only issue with Nayeon is that she gets too much time in songs. I’m not saying she’s not talented or whatnot, but that she gets majority of each title track, even more than Jihyo, who’s the main vocalist (and I know Twice vocals aren’t all SM like, but it’s odd in my opinion).
I mean Jeongyeon also has the same position (Lead Vocalists) and honestly gets one part at the end and many a couple other parts, which is completely unfair. I feel like the rappers and lower vocalist get more than her.
And I’m baffled at Nayeon getting a solo album (not just a single) when Twice songs anymore are Nayeon featuring Twice. I don’t hate, she’s an amazing singer, JYP just needs to put the visual mindset out of the way and let other members shine (like give Nayeon half the chorus and maybe a couple lines; that would help).
@nambawanme it's just one encore Have you seen TWICE latest encore and live performance? They all did great tho.
Why she got so much lines cuz she is the average vocal tone in TWICE. She is the midle in vocal so that's why producer give many lines to her.
I agree. I like Nayeon but I want to see and hear other members just as much.
I respect your opinion but it’s not her fault getting more lines than others ,she has more lines bcuz she’s the center , all the centers usually get more lined
@@bibbli3684 But they are a big group with fans, so literally wouldn’t change anything. Visuals aren’t hard to see and she’s got her fan cams. Pretty weak excuse from JYP for not fostering their artist’s talent for looks. And in Icon, that’s the only time she got way less lines ever, I think, and she still shined. Not arguing, I just think it’s odd to have 7 backup singers and dancers if you want to focus on a soloist that bad.
During Sixteen, there was a lot of evil editing on Mnet’s part (shocker) to make Nayeon the villain. However, during the show, you could see that the other trainees respected her and looked up to her. Nayeon was also the oldest trainee in the competition, had a failed debut, and has a driven and competitive personality. She takes her role as the oldest seriously and looks after the younger members.
ah ok i see
so thats why they made her the leader?
@@katherinecanhoto5875 Nayeon isn’t the leader; Jihyo is. The members voted before they debuted. Nayeon is just a really great unni!
@@allie5954 i was making a joke 😭
@@katherinecanhoto5875 Sorry!
I think that Winter's incidents are really meaningless..... There are many more idols who does even worse than her but they do not get any hate..... Probably because they are male idols, for example there is one idol in a very popular boy group who always rolls his eyes and pushes his face too much on the camera.... Despite not being the center, he prefers to stay in the front or in the center and doesn't even move from that spot.... He made several rude comments and always has that diva attitude when others were having fun but he was overlooked many times because of his enormous popularity..... There are many more idols like this, but it seems like people only point out at the female idols..... I am not even a fan of AESPA, but nitpicking everything they do is really childish and immature
And that Nayeon case.... I do believe that she was so proud and had a lot of superiority complex..... I don't know why, maybe it's because she is the company's favorite for sure.... Not only these incidents, I had seen many cases where she had looked down on her members especially Jeongyeon, Tzuyu and Momo....But I think she had changed a bit later and improved her personality.....
do you mind telling me the male idol?
@@w1ntercore493 Sorry but I can't reveal his name.... I think you can easily understand by reading my above comment..... This person has insane popularity and I can't afford all the hate comments by his fans who worship him like a God
@@pheonix9929 it’s ok , I asked bcz i’m new to k-pop but imma do my research
You’re right but just think, if twice members had beef they wouldn’t have renewed the contract. Literally all the members renewed the contract , it shows that they share a good bond with each other. We can’t judge everything based on some video clips you know how editing works.
I think I know that male idol hahah
its always the female idols and its upsetting bc most of the time they dont even do anything wrong
I mean we don't know about their true personality.But in two cases maybe the things look different.
In winters case,maybe that were fun presents for all of them or it was an idea of a staff member.That eye rolling could come from problems with eyes.I don't know if winter wears glasses or contacts but I had a classmate who riled his eyes when he looked to long on something.And he wore also glasses.
In Nayeons case it could be just a joke with the numbers.And that with sixteen maybe they had a fight behind the scene and Nayeons couldn't hold it back.Or the staff told her to do it for drama in the show.I mean that could really be.It are just my theories here.
I've seen someone saying similar about these colored contacts that idols usually wear, it was under a chopped up and edited video of Blackpink's Jennie being rude plus rolling her eyes at others. They're very drying as far as I've read and irritating to the eyes, but especially when they're dried out. Judging how long idols keep appearances or perform, I don't think changing or taking them out is an option.
Winter’s ones are just ridiculous 😂😂 people is really jobless nowadays
I know right!!😂😂
Crazy minds..
true
FR and also friendless
That Migyu girl gives me the creeps! She has a scary vibe about her. 😱😳
I agree that winter is spoiled by the company becuz she Always sing the most Always gets the special clothes,but its not her fault somehow the company likes to favoritisim the most popular members
When I first watched aespa videos I felt the same too about Winter, especially while speaking to Giselle? I don't think it's being rude but it's just.. they are colleagues lol not friends. Get this into your head. You can not like a person and still be completely professional around them. Winter just happens to be less fake about it.
It’s interesting about the winter thing and this just proves the misogyny in kpop, but i love key from shinee and whenever he’s forced into doing something, he would often do the same thing as winter. Take the best item for himself, visibly roll his eyes, etc. when he does that it’s funny and charming and but winter, she’s cold and heartless (granted he is also a senior in the industry and everyone will find a way to talk smack about aespa) but i just think it’s weird that it’s so easy for guys to get away with stuff that girls get criticized for
So true
Migyu is the only one I believe 100%.
Winter and Nayeon...NAHH
Aespa literally share a closet. I dont think that was her being rude or selfish.
Nayeon really annoys me since Sixteen, but since she's pretty, people forgive her😂😂
Winter is a false accusation😅
do you even know them personally?
She is very close with her members. geez
People are still reaching to paint Nayeon as a bad person. Literally on one has ever backed up any of those claims. Also, Nayeon isn't the only member in Twice who jokes and plays around but somehow she's the only one who gets demonized for it. Why? Y'all are just jealous.
who does migyo think she is? She's not even bringing money to her company nor bringing recognition to her group so who she is to complain bully and hurt her other members?🤦♀️ scary to think how some of our fave groups might just really be only bound by contracts and nothing more..😬
Pls see full information from Google sources before commenting something then you'll know actual truth about her
To be honest i also thought Winter was a bit attention seeker and selfish esp after that videos 1:57 but now i think its just her personality and not bad intentions
I'm starting to get concerned. Why is there always something bad to say when it comes to female idols? I get drama sells but maybe edit your videos from a neutral perspective or maybe give background to why idols were like this. Getting people to feel a certain way with idols especially female idols is coming off as misogynistic. Everyone has good and bad days and we never see what happens behind the scenes. Also apart from negative comments online there doesn't seem to be much evidence to support most of your claims. It's coming off as lazy to just put up a video with controversy just for drama and quick views
i agree so much this should be the top comment
@The Most beautiful Mermaid most of her videos are about girl group that I know but it's alarming that most videos aren't positive. It's usually something bad or controversial about gg. That isn't being a gg bias that's literally coming off as gg anti
@@harrytimmy5070 preach
Ikr, when male artists do the same, it's cute and boss-like, but girls are put down and attacked for it. I am so sick of these double standards.
Like the title being "kpop idols.." but there's only women. ..
I can understand Winter cos when Im with the people Im confortable with I express myself freely but when Im with other people, I tend to be super awkward and unnatural of myself
We all know that Twice relationship in each other is so strong I don't know why they hating Nayeon for being confident..... and Ranking of Twice members is just a Joke.....I remember of their one Vlive that they ranking each other I think it's 2018 and they just having fun
Don't take it serious Ok I know that Nayeon's love to Twice members is unconditional
Ugly Christmas sweaters are endearing, meme gifts now and it seems Winter was just excited to give it. People are reaching and need to go out and touch grass if they think that's evil.
Im just geting tired of people hating on winter these days . Like leave the girl alone i dont want u to love her but atleast respect her and leave her alone .i know most of u hate her because she is more popular and more loved than your faves but thats not her fault . LEAVE WINTER ALONE😒
I agree so much, people calling her spoiled because she has the most parts and being yyj's favorite (which isn't her fault she just talented) is such a bs
@@msplaymate exactly👍
I don't think what Winter did was wrong but then again she's my favorite in the group so I'm a bit biased. But it's not a big deal cuz tbh all of those sweaters were ugly anyways. And she has a good relationship with all of the members.
Or, and hear me out, people could stop being weird and stop acting like they know or have any control over these people who will never, ever, EVER know they exist.
It's funny how nobody is talking about all of these idols being females only
Because only female idols are nitpicked at
In winter's case imagine it was a male idol who did the samething all his fans would have praised him for how funny he was for keeping all the good stuff for himself but in the case of a female idol it becomes an attitude scandal
Or when nayeon said she was the 1 during their concert a male idol would have been praised for being so funny but it become a scandal when a female idol does it
Like we are all not turning a blind eyes to all the male idols that did the same thing but we are all here calling a female idol who did the same a b.lly
Double standards
Winter did hold up two sweaters and asked which one, Which NingNing chose that one. But seriously. Winter's like a lost puppy. I can't see her being mean at all.
TWICE and that rank things, it's inside joke . but they know there is misunderstanding so they don't talk about it anymore. what nayeon said is really bad if you don't know about the behind story.
hate how ppl are hating on winter and nayeon in the comments but so less ppl are speaking about migyo. like tf
True, they hate popular women. They don't even give a fck about who do shits
They are in a group and not requred to be best friends. They might not like eacother, they might be super close friends. We don't live with any of them and don't know how they act when they are alone, what are their inside jokes, how their personalities really are ect... Some really might be mean in real life, some can be called mean by someone with a bad purpose, just to bash them.
We can never know how someone is if we are not close with them.
winter an attention seeker?? she's literally the quietest member
Who knows what goes on behind closed doors. There’s a bit of truth in every rumor. 🌺
did y'all forget that they were literally competing with each other for a spot in a group and when she said that on stage it wasn't long after they debuted.
Ngl, out of all twice members, Id probably be scared the most with my own bias god Jihyo. She seems to be the ajumma type XD
Jihyo and Jeongyeon are very scary when they are in serious situation
lmao ahjumma type😭😭
Who cares what netizens think. They’re vile human beings.
Nayeon they’re never gonna make me hate u
Oh my gosh, these 'fans' just read too much into their least favorite idols mannerisms and say something they think is right.
Say what you want about Nayeon, being rude or evil, but since following them since the beginning of 2021, I have seen nothing but sunshine and rainbows from her in regards to those in her group.
She may not be THE leader like Jihyo is, but she takes her mentor role seriously.
Plus, her, Dahyun, and Momo (especially Momo) have a great relationship. Some of the funniest of moments between Twice is involving Nayeon, Momo, and Dahyun.
loved the video. can you do a video about the different reality shows/variety shows in kpop like produce 101 and weekly idol??
In my real life experience, majority of the beautiful non-celebrity people I've met aren't the nicest. They may not be pure evil but they're not nice, or if they act nice, it's more for their public image than natural kindness. they know they're beautiful and that beauty has power. Most of them (not all-i have met a few genuinely kind beautiful individuals) have a sense of superiority over average-looking people and they can get competitive against fellow beautiful people. i can't believe that ALL kpop idols are pure-hearted and kind just based on statistics. i don't know which ones are horrible and which are not, but i doubt that there's no real bully among them.
Oh pls people on the internet also believed Tzuyu was not that talented and that she was purely visual (if honest JYP commonly picks extreme visuals over talent sometimes as well) either during that time
What do you expect? Winter is the coldest season..
Must be nice to have a well-connected papa
winter is actually a softie...and sm wants her to portray this cold , mean girl image( cuz that's what sm does ) the real person you should be trashing is migyo lol
I don't believe nayeon is a problem... She has continuously saved members lives look it up.. the whole group is playfully bratty and sister like with each other. Maybe she was depressed that day and he face just couldn't hide it anymore. what if she had a late night and was struggling to stay focused.. they are always busy can't always smile for everyone. And winter did ask opinions on the sweaters. Like Twice those girls are close. And she has a good image from her group mates. I honestly trust the members with knowing whether or not those two are mean or not. The members have no problem with it meaning it's a normal and they think it's funny or cute when they do it like a sister or friend would. This goes to prove how they're every movements are under the microscope of course it could be uncomfortable for them
Rolling eyes is rude. I have never seen SNSD do that in their 15 yrs in KPOP.
LMAO BUT SNSD HAVE SUCH A
BROKEN RELATIONSHIP WITH JESSICA ONE OF THEIR EX MEMBERS. SURELY SMTH MUST'VE HAPPENED BTS!!??
Jennie does that a lot in her videos
Some people just want aespa to be Karina and just Karina
the winter one is nonsense, you should definitely watch other videos of them
6:29 I had no idea that Jessi's dog is the 10th member of Twice. Chewie
You know nothing about nayeon..she is the guardian of twice ... Dont you know she saved sana's life from death and also she save momo from car accident and stage accident... Lol this is so bad
You dont know nothing about nayeon too. You probably didnt even meet her once but talk like youre watching her 7/24
@@zml8025 i know all of the things I typed in the comment actually every once know that its a popular story about nayeon
@@OnceRainbow im talking about... you dont know her personally. Even tho you know those stuff doesnt mean you know her. Im not taking any sides in this story, i dont care what nayeon did or dont but this "I know what kind of person my idol is" talk is just so weird.
I don’t think TWICE would have stayed together for 7 years and renewed their contract if Nayeon or one of them is rude or has attitude problem
Unless you have more to gain by being in the group
@@hannah_rai178 yes could be. but there are members who still leave no matter how successful their group is
@@hannah_rai178 You are seems to be haters
I do think it’s funny when someone is being awful, arrogant, rude disrespectful people think of it as oh they’re just being overconfident know they’re just awful people with Nayeon she’s always been like this since debut she’s been rude disrespectful. She’s always trying to have a spotlight alter her self even 10 now you can tell in certain interviews and rideshare that she wants all the spot like she craves it when she’s the only one who’s had a solo debut and she’s a singer and everything, so why is she trying to grasp all this damn attention
The takeaway from this video is that netizens need to get a life outside of the internet. The winter story is the most innocuous thing I’ve ever seen. People need to get off the internet and work on improving their own lives instead of projecting their negativity onto literal strangers.
Be boss tv do you have anything against female idols??
exactly hehe...
Not only female but also male but the way the channel treats female Idols is bad.
winter being called bossy and attention seeker in that black mamba vid is insane if anyone else did that ppl would say its just them slaying
i just find it weird that people actually believe group mates are "besties" and fans using "y'all don't know her like we do" as a excuse, kinda sad tho
Tbh I never liked these girls from the start even tho I stan their groups lol i wouldn't say they're totally mean but let's be real yea sometimes they can act like one as much as anyone else can, they're human too...just becuz they're an idol doesn't mean they're an angel
Tbh seeing nayeon now vs in sixteen days is scary. She's still very competitive as jihyo and her are called competitive sisters. But the thing is we have seen so many scripted clips of trainees pretending or doing something else so i can't even put finger on her either. Meanwhile ranking members is not new they play this joke everytime some member looks best in their outfit or feel confident in their outfit.
winter did not deserve hate imagine asking your best friends permission to tease them ..
beboss tv daily habit is to spread toxicity everywhere☺
I love the channel but I also think it's getting out of hand. I realized Idols get hate because of the videos.
Please do not delete your comment.
Don't watch it If you don't like it 😊
Maybe you just don't believe.
U should take back what u said
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@@ebenezersuico5055 ofc i will not delete it, im disappointed to this channel that they keep posting these kind of videos for the sake of views but they have such a large number of subscribers
exactly! i've been watching their content for a while now and they never share a story from a different perspective. Like you can see other channels like kookielit and kpop junkie sharing a story from a neutral pov. This channel really made me feel like they are kind of causing fanwars and they seem to act like Sojang but for international fans
That's completely true all idols would do anything for fame, I didn't know that miming and starving yourself on a slave contract was talent. Love them hell no. I don't believe the stuff about naeyon she's amazing
If we see aespa's videos fully and not take them out of context, we will see that winter is actually very playful and teases other gurls but also doesn't overdo it. They all are comfortable with each other hence tease and play with each other a lot. People misunderstand her cause of her rbf probably, but she's very nice to everyone.
Why am I watching this? Why can’t I stop? Where am I?
Netizen's have way to much free time to be over analyzing videos some of them are crazy people
Roll eyes is being irritated? 'Cause I do that all the time.
Winter and Nayeon. No
Migyo? Yes
BIAS. Migyo had her members defend her and called the staff liars. Y would they do that if she treated them like shit?
I dint know who she is but sounds like they lied about her.
U like winter and Nayeon so you defend Tham.
@@hannah_rai178 they are probably afraid of her or she manipulated them
@@hannah_rai178
That's cute. Unlike you, I've actually seen what Migyo have done, I've seen some of the staff members around her flinch away from her, I've seen some of the younger staff members leave from her side with bruises on their bodies after Migyo grabbed them forcefully.
Hwayoung bc she lied and she let her group be witch hunted.
Nayeon is confident?????
Bringing other members down, making herself superior is confident. Idk her personality now but the clips that was shown. That is very very rude
Winter is actually one of the sweetest idols lol . Netizens get a job or sith ffs
This seems really petty and people need to worry about their own lives and not this crap
Can you make a happy video for once? like c'mon.
Winter such a cute adorable baby who's REAL. I'm a MY and I know Winter and Ningning are Karina and Gissel's baby 🐈💞
Nayeon was a young adult when she was in Sixteen, she was 20? Obviously she changed and isn't the same.
People are judging them too much. Also Nayeon shouldn't get hate for such a stupid reason because 1.)She might be tired that's why she makes angry expressions. 2.)She didn't even know she was gonna debut with Tzuyu. Come on Idols are humans too I think everyone has done or acted rude at least once in their life. Idols are no different from us and they will be rude sometimes too. Also if you're a real fan why are you hating on them?And you guys will come up with things like "We're trying to 'educate' them." What the? Most of you guys are even younger than these Idols so you know nothing including me. But not gonna lie the 2nd Idol went too far.
Only saying that cz u dont stan her and she not popular, if she was popular u would immediatly defend her
@@duaarrietty I was about to say the same thing.
How does she know that what they said about the 2nd idol is true? 2 of her former members actually defended her after that rumor came out. It literally says so in the video but she over looked that.
So its only ok to talk down about someone if u are not gonna be in the same group as them? Thoughts remain the same, the only difference is she wont say ir out loud anymore. And what about the things she said about Tzuyu and Jeongyeon during the concert? I like Twice all 9 of them but u cannot be making up excuses like that and then completed judging the 2nd idol just because u dint know them. Her members actually defended her and said the staff was lying.
@@hannah_rai178 true. Bro they only defend people that are popular
@@hannah_rai178 It's a joke. I get Nayeon is cold and insensitive sometimes but she's human too. Also it's not her fault she said those things about Tzuyu in SIXTEEN since that's always in Korea especially if it's competition. Now don't attack me because you're gonna tell me again why I didn't defend the 2nd Idol well she's human too she obviously makes mistakes but sometimes those mistakes are bad. And I'm not those type of people who care about popularity you know. I even hate it and you're telling me this? Also I said she went too far not hating on her so why would you say I'm not defending her then?
Sorry girl, You're lacking info . Winter cares about MEMBERS the most especially Giselle. MAYBE SHE IS JOKING AROUND, YOU CAN'T JUDGE HER TOO EASILY
Winter is a ATTENTION seeker like what a Joke? She is already the most popular member.
It’s not her info it’s toxic netizens saying that 😅
you are right but read the title it said "allegedly" means its juz rumors and speculation without proof and nth is confirmed so chill
trying to look nice again after attacking innocent idols in multiple other vids before. keep it up toxic fake stan.
I always thought that RM of BTS was rude to other rappers of BTS and Jimin. Yesterday I watched a video where RM admitted that he was rude to Suga in early times. I think he was jealous of Suga
Nope I assume that it was bcz of the ideas and preferences. Since rap line takes part in the production of songs it must be normal to accept or reject other's opinion. They might have argued over certain concept or style of music.
I think it was more about the varrying opinions not the jealousy.
Bro this thing they do because they are close lol 🙄🙄
I'm being honest Tzuyu has decent vocals she's not just a pretty face.
Lemme just hate to netizens as their behaviour of hating is not pleasing to me 😂
Still Nayeon placing herself 1st and the others below her...thats just nasty...Even if it is fact Ive never heard off that being done by other large groups. Its cruel in a way too the other two girls must have frlt low at that point Tzuyu is more beautiful than her i can see why she would be catty at times.
GO OFF SLAY
Hey BeBoss TV!I love your channel so much but I'm noticing that you're videos are sometimes toxic. Idols are getting hate because of it. Also you lack information sometimes. Wouldn't it be more nice if you start making more happy videos?I'm just sharing my opinion because I feel bad for the Idols getting hate for nothing or something they didn't do. It's getting out of hand.
She saying the news not having an opinion
@@im_yingying Well it's still wrong since it lacks information. Also do you not notice the toxicity these videos give? Idols are getting hate for it.
I've noticed this as well. She especially seems to be targeting female idols the most. The amount of videos with male idols and the amount with female ones are vastly different. There's always something bad to say when it comes to female idols and she doesn't add disclaimers or warnings so viewers just blindly assume she's telling the truth. It's giving pick me vibes
@@harrytimmy5070 It's also bad when it's male Idols if you watch recent videos it's very bad.
@@im_yingying bringing up old stuff literally is so toxic they got hated bc of those things n to bring it up even though their just rumors or taken out of context is just dumb
if winter is rude so what its not necessary to be friends and be in good relationship with other members and the Xmas clip i didnt find it rude and just some minutes clip makes her rude, then u all ,who procrastinates and dont do anything are of no use and burden on earth why ? bcz i saw a clip of u all playing games and procrastinate , judging others is easy when it comes to urself u all gets boiled up lol two faced
She’s not though have you never not had moments of being cheeky or a smart ass with your friends, I mean c’mon some of y’all are being ridiculous like that just makes a person completely rude and not nice as if winter was completely rude and mean the whole video which she wasn’t
@@lovelydiva06 thats why i wrote even if she is rude ,bcz ik minjeong isnt like that, iam winter biased and i never saw her being rude ,but i just took a example chill girl chill