J-Hope case broke everyone's heart, Kim Garam case is controversial. Is there any other case you know? If you could be a little specific, we would prob make a part 2!
I think jisoo's case she is very mistreated and her new k drama making her acting debut i personally think the script of the k drama wasn't good but the acting was chef's kiss
@@summimun122 the one who mistreated her the most are BLONKS. Right now we just enjoy as she rocks her solo cover in rolling stone magazine. Blinks love JiSOO🐰
Hobi currently are receiving more love and recognition by his fans. His popularity is increasing more and more. He deserves it. He's so talented, hardworking and his bright and kind personality makes my day. I'm so happy for him.
If you look at BTS Instagram accounts, you find that J-Hope is actually 4th in the group. V and Kookie have the most members by far, with Jimin, Hobi and Jin around the same - Suga and RM are actually at the bottom (although still within a million of the middle 3). Also consider that his Chicken Noodle Soup mv is the second most viewed solo mv in BTS (just behind Suga's Daechwita)
well at some places only, if you look at bts's official Instagram where they posted pictures for each member for "proof" he has the least likes. Even the likes on his ig posts aren't as much as they should be. And he literally supports all the members by liking every post they make and commenting on all the posts. I just feel bad :(
Hiyyih's case literally broke my heart. She did absolutely nothing, and people act like she killed people and burning houses. The amount of hate she got is very VERY alarming, especially considering that she's still a minor. Its sad knowing that the huening siblings getting hate for the exact same reasons from the netizen. They trully deserve every good things in the world.
@@lusia_Lm honestly, i feel really bad for garam too, but hiyyih had a different occasions here. Garam has start his career with the controversial scandal as we all know, but still, netizens and people didn’t have no rights to mistreat her :)
@@lusia_Lm hiyyih debuted without any rumor / scandal so basically people have no reason to bully her yet they still managed to do so by criticizing her looks and calling her untalented when she's literally one of the best vocalist in the group. Also did you really think that garam is innocent?
@@ratnamaya3411 it's not a matter of if she is innocent. It's a matter of she's a minor y'all are bullying over accusations and rumors that are disproved with logic and facts. You're literally acting like you as a 12yr old has never had an argument with someone. Did you forget the "victim" took inappropriate pictures of another student? That's called ch*ld P*rn. Talk about that.
@@lusia_Lm whoa chill, i never bully her and never had the intentions to do so. I'm just genuinely curious cause i personally do not really follow the case and you seems to understand more about it. I'm just asking, no harm intended.
Garam has serious bullying accusations against her, people wouldn't want to support someone who could be a bully. The silence is at least better than booing or insulting her, fans are staying neutral here, they are not hating or cheering her
I know what I'm going to say is bad but literally korea is no1 in bullying and they have a lot and believe me when I'm saying A LOT and they nor the police did a thing but when a public figure have a bullying scandels they give them all the hate or foreigner member they start like that's my country and you did this and this in past i wish them know that this is bad and effect a lot of people that just doesn't make you any better...
Other than fan sign, people hate her, leaving malicious comment, spreading rumor and accusation, for me that's also bullying, worse part is people seems to think its justified.
@@humnakamal1855 hhhhhhhh fan's obsession is funny hhhh cry? He's the richest of them all and he's not sharing money with you hhhhh he's doing fine lol
For j-hope haters:- Being the member with lowest fanbase to Being the most richest bts member this is hobi's story. No matter what you do they will be contacting to smile and shine.
Yes and no matter what he does or has, he'll be still annoying to see, the way he interacts with group members look so unnatural, no charisma, he bursts out laughing for no funny moments. I don't like to see a clown.
@@geekyourlikeslulu "I don't like to see a clown" But that's what you see if you look at yourself in the mirror...... First look at yourself before commenting on others, don't act as if u hv all the things that u mentioned abt him. If you think that our sunshine doesn't belong in the group, you are not an army!! All haters like you sit on their couches all day and comment nonsense abt these idols while they work their butt off just to give us good music.
I believe in you having your own bias in groups, but don’t ever treat certain members like they don’t belong, or single them out for any stupid reason whatsoever. They deserve as much love as their members, and we should appreciate them for working hard to make us happy.
Jhope and Bahiyyih made me cry because they should be treated like all the other members even all the other people in the video. Its not okay that people are like that if you don't like them don't shove it in there face just say you don't like them and walk away. Its not that hard, and you still went to their concert, fansign and more is just heart-breaking. I wish people can treat everybody equally.
J hope once wanted to quit bts, but the members wanted him to stay. The members really love n know his quality. Now, we know how bright n taleted he is. RM once said, if you want to take a role model of idol, just see jhope, his talent n hardworking.
Hiyyh’a situation reminded me of Tempest’s Hanbin. I felt sorry for both them because I bet the fans thought they were “too foreign” or “not Korean enough” so they didn’t give them gifts but then things changed after ❤️💜
@@jennie7281 no there re classmates didn't defend her ,even many evidence than hybe did mediaplay for protect her Only her friends but they re known mean girls...
@@jennie7281 no its kinda true. the sheet that said she committed a grade 5 violence offence (really high) was confirmed by the Ministry of Education. The victim has a lawyer and is now threatening to release text messages to provide more proof. Then there is a bunch of stuff that hasn't been proven like how she got kicked out of her dance club for bullying, she bullied someone because her mom was disabled and HYBE went down to school and bribed the victims to keep their mouths shut about it for her debut.
I'm not an Army but I know JHope is very talented, he's good as a dance teacher, he raps live all the time and he is cute... He should have more fans and respect
exactly. he is so so so loved here in latin america, and the fact that he knows it makes me very happy. we even say that brazil is his second home. when they last came here, in 2019, it was his name b-armys were screaming so hard that people in the streets around the stadium could hear. he is a hell of a dancer, a rapper with a distinct style by now, and a niiice singer, only him and jk are really all rounders, and their fellow members acknowledge that.
My jaw literally dropped looking at the IVE room situation! And J-Hope was the member that made me Stan BTS! It’s sad that any member would have to deal with things like this on top of the other hardships they face…
They literally said on a tv program that the rooms were divided by the girls preferences. Those who preferred private space took the individual rooms, and the three who don't like to sleep alone shared the bigger master suite. It's not a huge deal to the girls, so idk why kpop fans make it one. Finding a 6 bedroom apartment in Seoul is next to impossible....and if it bothered the girls, they could put up real partitions.
@@NelleBear and you seriously believe that shit?! Lol they were probably told by company to say something if asked. I mean ain’t it convenient that the three most popular members of IVE at the time just so happened to have their own rooms?! It’s not a problem to the other three girls because they pretty much have to deal with it and are probably used to it now. I know it’s probably hard to find a bigger place but let’s not act like the obvious didn’t happen there.
@@MsFated They had those rooms prior to debuting, they moved in while training......so how would Liz be any more popular than the other 3 then? And how exactly is she so much more popular even now?
@@MsFated Are you going fvcking insane when other groups do this too or is this just so you could hate against IVE? You can see their personality right there. Liz, Wonyoung and Yujin are definitely introvert. So they would probably prefer to have their own rooms. Leeseo is still very young, it’s understandable that she would prefer to be with someone else. Rei is also a foreigner living ALONE in a country she has no relatives in so it would also be understandable why. Plus Rei is the one taking care of leeseo and one of the most affectionate towards her so these 2 are probably dependent on each other for comfort. Gaeul is probably there because she’s the oldest and older members would naturally feel the need to sacrifice in times like this. And this is just my interpretation but I don’t think Liz is one of the most popular. Rei and Leeseo could easily be more popular than Liz in Korea or even internationally. Plus Rei got way better gig too. She got a muse position for a brand and got fashion week invite along with Leeseo. While Liz was a model for a cosmetic retailer with her senior (so not entirely a solo gig). Plus, Rei also got sponsored by prada together with wonyoung. So Rei is definitely much more popular than Liz so your logic literally makes no sense. Doesn’t want to rely on brand reputation ranking but Leeseo always top that plus Rei is way more talked about than Liz even in Eleven era.
so what? you know groups like enhypen (all 7) share a room right? you know how hard is it for them to find an apartment with 6 rooms? their situation is so much better than other groups already, who share 4 ppl in a small room with bunk beds.
honestly this shouldn’t happen, they are a GROUP not a SOLO GROUP. but then again companies can never promote all the members equally. and honestly how can some fans be so inconsiderate? it so rude! like if ur gonna stan the group stan them all, don’t leave one or two members and hate on them. your not a REAL FAN if you do that, you not worthy of being called their fan then
To all who think Jhope is ignored yes, he was before even in 2018 by fans. Not now. He has so big fanbase. He got 90k-100k armys shout his name “Jhope” in almost 20 concerts for 3 minutes.That’s his power
he is so so so loved here in latin america, and the fact that he knows it makes me very happy. we even say that brazil is his second home. when they last came here, in 2019, it was his name b-armys were screaming so hard that people in the streets around the stadium could hear. he is a hell of a dancer, a rapper with a distinct style by now, and a niiice singer, only him and jk are really all rounders, and their fellow members acknowledge that.
He's our sunshine, our hobi. If you look at his vlives to he got so many people watching his live. Even for his bday once he tried doing a live but there was so much traffic coming in the vlive app crashed and i think he tried youtube or some other platform but that crashed to. Then tried Vlive again and it worked. Army was running around on social media just to see hobi and ended up crashing the sites, poor hobi didn't know what was going on.
In my opinion Rei is such a cutei.She can outcome wonyoung's beauty . She is talented , raps well and can fit in all kinds of hairstyles. She is the reason why I Stan Ive.
All members are equally as pretty. It's good that Rei is getting the recognition she deserves but you don't need to bring down other members for one member's benefit.
Wonyoung have aleast money and her fans buy 100k albums and have 5 years carrer in kpop industry add it girl ,she is booked like ever Your girl Rei should never .. Fake dive
@@aizzaasen6465 facts! But tbh this is literally how all of the IVE comments be. Uplifting and comparing the other members to Wonyoung. It is so annoying smh 🙄
4:00 this has a reason, she allegedly bullied in high school, and was inappropriate. Hybe tries to protect her, but there are so many holes in the story that Hybe made up, that nobody believes. At least people didn't boo Garam, but they didn't react, didn't do *nothing*.
@@aiko8692 please check your facts guys. Garam doesn't deserve hate. Don't believe everything from the victim. Sometimes use logic. The bullying case happened in 2018 and she's now 16 which means she was 12 . In my opinion The victim can't blame suicide on Garam cause suicide is victim's own thought. I'm sure Garam did not force her to do that. But what victim is doing right now is totally wrong.
@@lalitpradhan7270 people like you really do annoy me . Are you really saying what the victim is doing is wrong like wtf . dude the VICTIM never said Garam should leave the group all she WANTS is garam to apologise . As a person who got bullied you giving the victim the fould for what garam did truly hurts .. like the way you just say its the victim fould for thinking about killing themself ( like I can just See you have never been bullied) Like the reason people kill themself is because they don't See a way out of the situation . In this case garam bullied someone , she did get violence towards the victim Because how else did garam get a restraining order . So the victim got bullied maybe for years days or months we don't know... So but yourself in the victims shoes You feel sad , you have anxiety , you are scared so you don't see a a way out of the situation and you are like 12 its to much to handle for your age so you think about suicide , you don't ask for help . Lets say 4 years have past a lot of things have happen .. BUt you have not forgoten that you did get bullied because (if you get bullied you will never forget it just belive me in this ) Now You have heard about the new kpop group lesserafim and you See your middle school bully what whould you do ?
there’s no way you don’t know about Garam’s bullying scandal. she’s not “discriminated against” the general consensus among kpop stans is that she’s a bully, and does not deserve celebration for her past actions
It’s confirmed the other alleged victim also took part in the violence so don’t act as if Garam is the only bad one here. Both the alleged victim and Garam had a fight because one of Garam’s friends bottom part was taken in a pic by a friend of the alleged victim or the victim herself and leaked it to the public. We can’t confirm ourselves if Garam is innocent or not, we are not the court so let’s wait for the court verdict.
@@scallywags666 the girl literally tried to kill herself and she do not feel any sorrow at all... She never apologized, clearly do not intend to and she's acting really bad towards her groupmates, specially Sakura and Yunjin, that have to way for experience (and talent) than her. She's actually being treated really nice considering how mean she is. Your opinion is clearly from someone who never suffered bullying and don't understand
People keep saying Bahiyyih was selected as a kep1er member because of the votes she got from MOAS. And I won't lie I knew her because of her brother. But after I got to know her, I completely fell in love with her personality and I think she really deserves to be an idol and doesn't deserve all this hate. We love you bahiyyih
there were more deserving than her to be in Kepler.. some people felt that those who voted for her robed those who were more talented and charismatic during gp999..
@@shiddsteddy7236 actually that's true there were many talented people but I think we can appreciate them without degrading bahiyyih??and just because other talented people were not selected...it doesn't mean that kep1er fans can mistreat hiyyih like that?they could have at least given her one gift:(
@@shiddsteddy7236 There were 99 girls for only 9 spots... Bahiyyih did a very good job the whole time. She does deserve to win a spot. Indeed, many deserving girls had to go home, but after seeing their fav leaving, people literally unleashed their anger over Bahiyyih *for having a famous brother* it was like they set a target mark on her back to blame her for everything. Like she doesn't have a freaking dream too. I don't stan Kep1er, but what haters did to her is just monstrous.
@@WhiteSwan1997 bahiyyih had a better chance at auditioning directly to a company to be a trainee and debut there( that is if what they say about her being talented is even true).. but she had to make it harder for more unpopular girls in gp999 to have a chance at debuting.
Garam didn’t deserve any of the hate she got and to be kicked out of the group, I don’t get why they didn’t ask her to come back when the accusations were literally proven to be false 🙄 I really hope we get to see her fulfilling her dreams in the future.
"yeah we all chose our rooms" "Can i have the room shared with 2 others and divide the space up with some boards? I just love the luxury of small spaces."
Hiyyh is my bias and honestly noone asked to be one of TxT members little sister. She is so kind and sweet. No followers no gifts doesn't mean anything.
J-hope’s case made me really tearful. He’s my bias, but I love all members equally. They are all so unique and hardworking in their own ways. The vlive in where “fans” were asking where the other members were and he literally had to write on a board “J-hope’s live” to make them understand it’s his vlive, not the other members make me cry. They all should be treated equally and no other BTS member should go through what he’s going. Luckily, he’s getting more love day by day. And all of these cases are sad. I hope the idols live a peaceful life…
bahiyyih is my bias, it breaks my heart seeing how mistreated she is by k-nets, like its inhumane to purposely just ignore her and shower affection and gifts to other members. I swear, I just wanna travel to Korea to give her a hug, she's an angel and I adore her sm.
she is just not charismatic and her personality isnt even like of an idol.. other introvert idols still slay when they pose or have to be in front of the camera.. bahiyyih is just looking awkward most of the time..
@@shiddsteddy7236 but thats totally so inhumane to ignore one person in a group Keep yourself in her position and think that if someone does this to you Also she is a very talented artist she deserves all the love😣😣❤❤❤
Hobi always suffered with the indifference of some "armys" since BTS rookie days. Actually, RM and Jhope always were the least popular among the other members, but Jhope for some reason that I can't understand, always suffered the most. I can remember the hashtags demanding him to leave the group and brokes my heart when I remember he in fact thought leaving BTS. Hobi is the most precious person in the world and I can't understand why he's so underrated. He's the best dancer that I ever seen, his charisma is overwhelming, his stage presence is everything. He's the best definition of talent. He is our sunshine and deserves everything.
@@aplaraujo250 yes. Hobi and Namjoon suffered since debut days with this type of comments by their "fans". They were insecure about their appearance with Jhope covering his face and Namjoon using sunglasses to feel himself more confidence. I glad both them looks more self confident these days.
@@winniejung no, he is actually the only member who never get involved on any controversy. All the members have some controversy involving their name (some really dumb), but he is the one who never get involved in any polemic attitude. He was hated mostly because of his appearance, some armys calls him ugly and because of his personality. For some people, he always want to get attention, that he's exaggerated and fake his personality.
As for Bahiyyih, it was really sad that she didn't get a single gift from fans but I disagree with the members sharing their gifts to her because it would also be rude for the fans who gave them those gifts. Just imagine, you gave your friend a gift and she gave it to someone else, that wouldn't feel okay, right?
Exactly that's what I thought, sharing personal gifts would have caused further backlash on Bahhiyyih. In other fan meetings, members of groups don't share flower crowns or other things unless prepared by the management themselves. Still sad to see she didn't receive any gifts, I think mostly because her fanbase is global but once fan meeting access becomes more accessible to foreign fans I think she will actually receive way more gifts
I don’t wanna sound arrogant but I’m proud to say that in all of my years in kpop, all the groups that i Stan i never discriminated a single member, I’m always an OT-all fan.
J-Hope and Rei are my biases, it breaks my heart to see this 😔 Poor Bahiyyih! If I went to a fansign, I'd bring something for every member, everyone in a group deserves equal love.
Stan the one you're heart goes to. Don't send I love you r you're the best to member you don't even care about. That's faking yourself. But I don't mean you should ignore a member. But if your heart is not with x member don't force yourself
the fact the large room is bigger than the three individuals combined if wonio were to share such room with yujin and any other of the six the amount of hate would be the same ...
Especially with Hyde’s track record with ggs, the previous one they debuted, Glam got into a scandal where a member blackmailing some actor and one has rumors of being a sasaeng but that’s just a rumor, I would’ve assumed they would do anything for the past not to repeat 💀
Imagine working day and night, strict diet routine which is equivalent to literally eating nothing, going through severe mental health traumas and then ending up with this, heartbreaking isn't it?
The IVE case is so dumb cus the girls chose it themselves they even admitted it rei gaeul and leeso wanted to stay together because they all keep talking till 3 in the morning and they were closer to each other
@@SunhaJae am blind because I think the agency isn’t only promoting wonyoung maybe at the beginning of ive they did that but lets be honest here you are a company and you are trying to promote your products then you get a list of people amd wonyoung is part of that list you would choose her because she has the most sway in all of them so stop blaming the girl for her popularity and go touch grass you weirdo
the layout of the house is literally like this: Masterbedroom: Biggest room in the apartment, bigger than the 3 individual rooms combined. Have a walk in closet and bathtub. 3 Individual Rooms: Just a bedroom, no bathroom, the three of them have to share one and its just a shower room so its relatively alot smaller. The individual rooms would be too small for 2 ppl to stay in plus the master bedroom would be too big for just 2 ppl to stay in so it make sense that they divide it as it is.
The disrespect towards Hobi is far too much! I read he doesn’t like to do solo Lives due to some fans keep asking where other members are. Making him feel like they rather have that member doing a live instead of him.
*No. It's not fair. J-HOPE? NO. He.. He does not deserves this! I love him. (Ofc as an idol) he's the most caring person. And when he cries, it made me tear up more and more. And the dances he do is so amazing! He's our sunshine, he's our hope, j-HOPE.* #RESPECTJHOPE
None of them deserves to be treated this way........they're also human not object, so please treat them equally and support them. No one is born perfect please know that as well.
I woulnd't surprise me at all to find out that Kepler members were icy and mean towards each other behind the scenes. There are so many of them still competing against each other for attention. Putting that many immature girls in that kind of environment, and in a company that's not a big 3... Kepler is probably wild behind the scenes.
really happy Hobi is giving concerts and being very popular lately! His fans are super faithful and praise him as he deserves! Plus I've seen how all BTS members are very supportive and always cheer for him! Hope all members get treated equaly
Garam has bullying accusations against her. Apparently they're even proven true. So...I don't think she's the victim here. I'm not saying she deserves to be ignored, I'm just saying she's not all innocent despite her young age.
Rei, gaeul, and leeseo deserve so much more love they are all so talented and pretty ! I don't get the room situation tho. Everyone should get their own private room. This is unfair to the girls.. please support them no matter what and stream love dive!
while they all deserve that, you should understand that their situation is much better than other groups. the girls wanted to share an apartment but imagine finding one with 6 rooms! many groups like enhypen all share one room with bunk beds, so the girls actually like luxuriously for rookies. although they’ll get much better treatment as their career continues
There room are good for rookies better than many others. But I think REI, Gaeul and Leeseo deserve more love, I think Gaeul and Lesseo are in a situation worst than REI, and I can see that even though REI is my bias so that's probably saying something
To me, most of the time the most disliked group members end up being the more successful members and that's what's amazing about it, only the ones who are disliked for stupid reasons that are not true, or just stupid reasons overall. Garam obviously is getting a lot of hate for what she did and she deserves some of it but she doesn't deserve threat to lives or her family being threatened as that is too much, she apologized to her victims when she found out she was debuting which makes it look insincere af, if she had apologized before that while she was doing the bullying and better'd her self then, then id understand, as i was also bullied a lot, and would forgive my bully if they did that, i don't get bullied anymore cause i don't put up with it anymore thank god.
I'm torn in Garam's case. At first, when she was labeled as a school bully I didn't like her already. But the more details are presented the more I think the hate towards her is a bit excessive. Although I agree she should leave the group for the remaining five's sake since she indeed did something terrible. What I understood so far according to all the reports and receipts, Garam and her friends bullied the victim at the beginning by intimidating and ostracizing her (still no violence here, just infuriating) then she opted for revenge by posting ill-captured photos of one of Garam's friends. Which in my opinion is a low blow. Then everything turned to violence. Which is wrong. But they were 12 at that time. The most impulsive point of a teenager's life. Which is still wrong! But the hormones at that age are something. I was suicidal from that age up to 15 for all dumb reasons. I wanted to slap my past self. Anyway, as for the victim's attempted suicide, the one who should be blamed was Hybe. She did it because Hybe labeled her as the "real" bully causing her to receive threats and hate. She even got harassed in school. It should not be blamed on Garam. She has no control over what the company decides to say. All she did is put her trust in them. In conclusion, although I agree that Garam should be removed from the group since she is not qualified as a role model to the youth, she should not be threatened or hated. Give that privilege to the victim.
She got a degree 5 punishment which means she beat up the victim repeatedly, the fact that she got degree 5 punishment is official. The victim had to transfer to another school and attempted suicide. I don’t understand how you can defend her, It’s immoral
@@everythingsfinett3903 I'm not defending her and I'm not saying she didn't act violent. I clearly stated that "everything turned to violence". What she did was wrong. I'm just saying that the blame should be given to the actual perpetrator. The bullying and violence should be blamed on Garam and her friends. But the suicide attempt should be blamed on Hybe. Some netizens are blaming the suicide attempt on Garam painting her as an indirect murderer which is I think is unfair for Garam. Yes she is a mean girl and I don't like her for that. But giving too much hate and threats to a 16 year old is just too much. Even a 30-year-old or older can't even handle that.
regarding the first situation, they could've just provided bunk beds for each room. Then each room will have 2 members. It can also be that they put two beds in the room, it's quite spacious tho. and made the big room their wardrobe. like in the suju dorm that kyuhyun and eunhyuk live, I think they have a shared big wardrobe in their dorms. If the company had better space management from the start, then members could just choose which roommate they want than have these choices where people can have doubts.
Jhope is a very talented guy...he is an all rounder, being the main dancer, sub vocalist, rapper, and also has contributed into writing and composing many songs, he has a bubblly personality and a kind soul and a charming aura....jhope deserves all the love he is getting and should get more
Yes he used to be ignored but now he has a bunch of fans that loves him hobi fanbase is really big so i'm glad he's not letting a few fans who doesn't stan him and doesn't like him get to him in 2019 i think it was he got his first standing ovation and cheers from all the army's he looked so happy and was so excited hearing army's cheer his name.
But I think hoseok is not ignored anymore like he got the loudest cheer during 'just dance performance'. About forgetting him to put in VCR or stuff. It happened with all the other members too(forget to put V in louis vuitton or forgetting to put Jin's pic etc). But hoseok is so kind that he always push other members (especially maknae line) before him in the centre. But before there are times when my poor hobi got ignored for sure. When every member got message on their fancafe or when he was doing a Vlive but some rude people keep asking about other members. But honestly you don't have any idea about hoseok popularity when I attended their concert in Chicago I felt like hobi was everyone's bias because everyone's start screaming even louder when hoseok's part came or he appear on screen.
This is one of the reason why idols do suicide because of discriminations cause by the company. Mistreatment can cause their morale down big time. Korean fans are really terrible in discrimination and worst disrespectful bashers. They are one factor to be blame causing idol suicide to include the companies abuse and discrimination. These kind of attitude and behavior should be changed.
this is always happen in many korean film ,movie or tv series nowadays some of supporting cast overrated or with too much exposure are always ignore by fans or in random interview
Tbh the leeseo rei and gaeul one is really unfair they should have private rooms and should be treated equal and for garam she deserves it i mean i used to stay netural too but now its obvious she is a bully she deserved the silence that was made for her and tbh jhope one is unfair people usually only care about tha maknae line and forget about the hyung line
Dude, I just want to cry. Man I wouldn't be able to continue if things like those happened to me, but they still go on and fight for what they truly love to do
Jhope is my Bias in BTS... he is such a beautiful person... people hating him must be having a sad lifestyle or either total emotional blind sick people... our Hobi shines so beautifully always no matter where ever he is... he will forever be my ultimate Bias and sunshine...🧡💫🥰
I seriously hate Starship so bad. These 3 girls deserve none of that. If the company truly cares about all members, they should have purchase another condominium for private rooms. But instead crammed Leeseo, Gaeul and Rei in a single room without renovation for walls and personal rooms? Talk about favoritism.
Seventeen dino, fans were scolding each other and fighting cause he keeps being ignored in fan meets and things like that, fans where telling each to even if you don't like this idol much be polite and talk to them. He is not of the least popular members, when fans goes to him he gets all happy and thank them.
It is pathetic to see mistreatment from their own company, members and fans for whom they had worked so hard and debuted scarifying their time. Everyone deserves equal treatment. When you join a fandom you should show love and respect to the group and the group consists of all members. Their success and failure include each one of them, not a particular person.
Well I do not agree about Jhope getting ignored bcz all BTS members, ARMYs and HYBE staff love him and why not he is such a sweet soul after all 💜 Jhope is ARMY's love, heart and life
This is what I always say. People love the I’m this group fan or that group fan, UNTIL. They only they’re favourite ones. Yesss we all have our favourite or our bias in a group. And we all have our every right to support our faves, but you can’t call yourself a fan of a group if you’re only paying attention to your favourite, ignoring all others members
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J-Hope case broke everyone's heart, Kim Garam case is controversial. Is there any other case you know? If you could be a little specific, we would prob make a part 2!
i actually rlly think BLACKPINK's jisoo shuld be here she gets so mistreated that its not even mentioned
All of the bts army only care about jungkook they don’t give a fuck about other members
I'm a blink and i love hobi so much💯
I think jisoo's case she is very mistreated and her new k drama making her acting debut i personally think the script of the k drama wasn't good but the acting was chef's kiss
@@summimun122 the one who mistreated her the most are BLONKS.
Right now we just enjoy as she rocks her solo cover in rolling stone magazine.
Blinks love JiSOO🐰
Hobi currently are receiving more love and recognition by his fans. His popularity is increasing more and more. He deserves it. He's so talented, hardworking and his bright and kind personality makes my day. I'm so happy for him.
He's my fave! He has a rly good personality also n he seems to be really loved by the other members.
I know it makes me the happiest knowing people are finally realizing what an amazing person he is :( been a hobi stan sice day one
If you look at BTS Instagram accounts, you find that J-Hope is actually 4th in the group. V and Kookie have the most members by far, with Jimin, Hobi and Jin around the same - Suga and RM are actually at the bottom (although still within a million of the middle 3). Also consider that his Chicken Noodle Soup mv is the second most viewed solo mv in BTS (just behind Suga's Daechwita)
Yeahh 🖤
well at some places only, if you look at bts's official Instagram where they posted pictures for each member for "proof" he has the least likes. Even the likes on his ig posts aren't as much as they should be. And he literally supports all the members by liking every post they make and commenting on all the posts. I just feel bad :(
Hiyyih's case literally broke my heart. She did absolutely nothing, and people act like she killed people and burning houses. The amount of hate she got is very VERY alarming, especially considering that she's still a minor. Its sad knowing that the huening siblings getting hate for the exact same reasons from the netizen. They trully deserve every good things in the world.
People ddid the same to Garam but you aren't talking about that either.
@@lusia_Lm honestly, i feel really bad for garam too, but hiyyih had a different occasions here. Garam has start his career with the controversial scandal as we all know, but still, netizens and people didn’t have no rights to mistreat her :)
@@lusia_Lm hiyyih debuted without any rumor / scandal so basically people have no reason to bully her yet they still managed to do so by criticizing her looks and calling her untalented when she's literally one of the best vocalist in the group.
Also did you really think that garam is innocent?
@@ratnamaya3411 it's not a matter of if she is innocent. It's a matter of she's a minor y'all are bullying over accusations and rumors that are disproved with logic and facts. You're literally acting like you as a 12yr old has never had an argument with someone. Did you forget the "victim" took inappropriate pictures of another student? That's called ch*ld P*rn. Talk about that.
@@lusia_Lm whoa chill, i never bully her and never had the intentions to do so. I'm just genuinely curious cause i personally do not really follow the case and you seems to understand more about it. I'm just asking, no harm intended.
Garam has serious bullying accusations against her, people wouldn't want to support someone who could be a bully.
The silence is at least better than booing or insulting her, fans are staying neutral here, they are not hating or cheering her
Say anything to justify what you want. You weren't there and the fact yall believe rumors really says how toxic you kpop fans are.
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Exactly
I know what I'm going to say is bad but literally korea is no1 in bullying and they have a lot and believe me when I'm saying A LOT and they nor the police did a thing but when a public figure have a bullying scandels they give them all the hate or foreigner member they start like that's my country and you did this and this in past i wish them know that this is bad and effect a lot of people that just doesn't make you any better...
Other than fan sign, people hate her, leaving malicious comment, spreading rumor and accusation, for me that's also bullying, worse part is people seems to think its justified.
My heart already broke but when HOBI part came in i literally cried.......ALL MEMBERS SHOULD BE TREATED EQUALLY...... *THEY ARE OT7 AND WILL BE*
Korean society..not all of them but majority are weird and negetive minded
Why would you cry ??? Hhhhhhh
@@eulalia3468 As its really upsetting and that its not like i cried with my lungs out THEY WERE SOME EMOTIONAL TEARS!
@@humnakamal1855 hhhhhhhh fan's obsession is funny hhhh cry? He's the richest of them all and he's not sharing money with you hhhhh he's doing fine lol
@@eulalia3468 shut up you don't have emotion if you are not army don't talk about stuff related to bts 😑😑
For j-hope haters:- Being the member with lowest fanbase to Being the most richest bts member this is hobi's story.
No matter what you do they will be contacting to smile and shine.
@Ishita Verma well maybe the statistics changed recently but from what I know hobi is the richest member
@Ishita Verma no it's hobi followed by meow meow
@@yanjungrass715 that's the news from 2018. Everything have changed.
Yes and no matter what he does or has, he'll be still annoying to see, the way he interacts with group members look so unnatural, no charisma, he bursts out laughing for no funny moments. I don't like to see a clown.
@@geekyourlikeslulu "I don't like to see a clown"
But that's what you see if you look at yourself in the mirror......
First look at yourself before commenting on others, don't act as if u hv all the things that u mentioned abt him. If you think that our sunshine doesn't belong in the group, you are not an army!! All haters like you sit on their couches all day and comment nonsense abt these idols while they work their butt off just to give us good music.
I believe in you having your own bias in groups, but don’t ever treat certain members like they don’t belong, or single them out for any stupid reason whatsoever. They deserve as much love as their members, and we should appreciate them for working hard to make us happy.
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Including garam?
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Jhope and Bahiyyih made me cry because they should be treated like all the other members even all the other people in the video. Its not okay that people are like that if you don't like them don't shove it in there face just say you don't like them and walk away. Its not that hard, and you still went to their concert, fansign and more is just heart-breaking. I wish people can treat everybody equally.
@cookies and cream I know right
J hope once wanted to quit bts, but the members wanted him to stay. The members really love n know his quality. Now, we know how bright n taleted he is. RM once said, if you want to take a role model of idol, just see jhope, his talent n hardworking.
Hiyyh’a situation reminded me of Tempest’s Hanbin. I felt sorry for both them because I bet the fans thought they were “too foreign” or “not Korean enough” so they didn’t give them gifts but then things changed after ❤️💜
Hiyyh she is korean but not Hanbin and kep1er also have foreign members
@@clementekhonde7329 yeah I know but have u seen the hate she’s gotten just for being half Korean
@@clementekhonde7329 yeah I know that
Wait what happened with Hanbin? Is it after he debuted?
@@aizzaasen6465 yes
It just makes my heart crack when other members gets discrimination
But Garam's case makes me think twice
Correct me if I am wrong but i thought that it was proven to be someone else making false accusations?
@@jennie7281 it’s not prove yet. The case is going on.
@@jennie7281 more evidences are coming out against her and its being proven more and more that she really is the bad guy.
@@jennie7281 no there re classmates didn't defend her ,even many evidence than hybe did mediaplay for protect her
Only her friends but they re known mean girls...
@@jennie7281 no its kinda true. the sheet that said she committed a grade 5 violence offence (really high) was confirmed by the Ministry of Education. The victim has a lawyer and is now threatening to release text messages to provide more proof.
Then there is a bunch of stuff that hasn't been proven like how she got kicked out of her dance club for bullying, she bullied someone because her mom was disabled and HYBE went down to school and bribed the victims to keep their mouths shut about it for her debut.
I'm not an Army but I know JHope is very talented, he's good as a dance teacher, he raps live all the time and he is cute... He should have more fans and respect
True!!
I think all the members are great, but J-Hope's energy always puts a smile on my face. He seems to be having so much fun!! Love them!
True ...and i am one of them not only jhope is my bias but all of them are .....💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
I think in J hope's case, that's not the current case, yes he was ignored in the past but not now. Now he has a huge fan base.
exactly. he is so so so loved here in latin america, and the fact that he knows it makes me very happy. we even say that brazil is his second home. when they last came here, in 2019, it was his name b-armys were screaming so hard that people in the streets around the stadium could hear. he is a hell of a dancer, a rapper with a distinct style by now, and a niiice singer, only him and jk are really all rounders, and their fellow members acknowledge that.
My jaw literally dropped looking at the IVE room situation! And J-Hope was the member that made me Stan BTS! It’s sad that any member would have to deal with things like this on top of the other hardships they face…
They literally said on a tv program that the rooms were divided by the girls preferences. Those who preferred private space took the individual rooms, and the three who don't like to sleep alone shared the bigger master suite. It's not a huge deal to the girls, so idk why kpop fans make it one. Finding a 6 bedroom apartment in Seoul is next to impossible....and if it bothered the girls, they could put up real partitions.
@@NelleBear and you seriously believe that shit?! Lol they were probably told by company to say something if asked.
I mean ain’t it convenient that the three most popular members of IVE at the time just so happened to have their own rooms?!
It’s not a problem to the other three girls because they pretty much have to deal with it and are probably used to it now. I know it’s probably hard to find a bigger place but let’s not act like the obvious didn’t happen there.
@@MsFated They had those rooms prior to debuting, they moved in while training......so how would Liz be any more popular than the other 3 then? And how exactly is she so much more popular even now?
@@MsFated Are you going fvcking insane when other groups do this too or is this just so you could hate against IVE? You can see their personality right there. Liz, Wonyoung and Yujin are definitely introvert. So they would probably prefer to have their own rooms. Leeseo is still very young, it’s understandable that she would prefer to be with someone else. Rei is also a foreigner living ALONE in a country she has no relatives in so it would also be understandable why. Plus Rei is the one taking care of leeseo and one of the most affectionate towards her so these 2 are probably dependent on each other for comfort. Gaeul is probably there because she’s the oldest and older members would naturally feel the need to sacrifice in times like this. And this is just my interpretation but I don’t think Liz is one of the most popular. Rei and Leeseo could easily be more popular than Liz in Korea or even internationally. Plus Rei got way better gig too. She got a muse position for a brand and got fashion week invite along with Leeseo. While Liz was a model for a cosmetic retailer with her senior (so not entirely a solo gig). Plus, Rei also got sponsored by prada together with wonyoung. So Rei is definitely much more popular than Liz so your logic literally makes no sense. Doesn’t want to rely on brand reputation ranking but Leeseo always top that plus Rei is way more talked about than Liz even in Eleven era.
so what? you know groups like enhypen (all 7) share a room right? you know how hard is it for them to find an apartment with 6 rooms? their situation is so much better than other groups already, who share 4 ppl in a small room with bunk beds.
honestly this shouldn’t happen, they are a GROUP not a SOLO GROUP. but then again companies can never promote all the members equally. and honestly how can some fans be so inconsiderate? it so rude! like if ur gonna stan the group stan them all, don’t leave one or two members and hate on them. your not a REAL FAN if you do that, you not worthy of being called their fan then
To all who think Jhope is ignored yes, he was before even in 2018 by fans. Not now. He has so big fanbase. He got 90k-100k armys shout his name “Jhope” in almost 20 concerts for 3 minutes.That’s his power
he is so so so loved here in latin america, and the fact that he knows it makes me very happy. we even say that brazil is his second home. when they last came here, in 2019, it was his name b-armys were screaming so hard that people in the streets around the stadium could hear. he is a hell of a dancer, a rapper with a distinct style by now, and a niiice singer, only him and jk are really all rounders, and their fellow members acknowledge that.
He's our sunshine, our hobi. If you look at his vlives to he got so many people watching his live. Even for his bday once he tried doing a live but there was so much traffic coming in the vlive app crashed and i think he tried youtube or some other platform but that crashed to. Then tried Vlive again and it worked. Army was running around on social media just to see hobi and ended up crashing the sites, poor hobi didn't know what was going on.
In my opinion Rei is such a cutei.She can outcome wonyoung's beauty . She is talented , raps well and can fit in all kinds of hairstyles. She is the reason why I Stan Ive.
She's my bias 💜
Ok it's great ur praising Rei, but u don't have to compare and bring down Wonyoung's beauty. U could've just left her name out of this.
All members are equally as pretty. It's good that Rei is getting the recognition she deserves but you don't need to bring down other members for one member's benefit.
Wonyoung have aleast money and her fans buy 100k albums and have 5 years carrer in kpop industry add it girl ,she is booked like ever
Your girl Rei should never ..
Fake dive
@@aizzaasen6465 facts! But tbh this is literally how all of the IVE comments be. Uplifting and comparing the other members to Wonyoung. It is so annoying smh 🙄
4:00 this has a reason, she allegedly bullied in high school, and was inappropriate. Hybe tries to protect her, but there are so many holes in the story that Hybe made up, that nobody believes.
At least people didn't boo Garam, but they didn't react, didn't do *nothing*.
Thank you its so deserved
What was she( a 12 yrs old girl) doing in high school?
@@lalitpradhan7270 she was 14 i think
@@aiko8692 please check your facts guys. Garam doesn't deserve hate. Don't believe everything from the victim. Sometimes use logic. The bullying case happened in 2018 and she's now 16 which means she was 12 . In my opinion The victim can't blame suicide on Garam cause suicide is victim's own thought. I'm sure Garam did not force her to do that. But what victim is doing right now is totally wrong.
@@lalitpradhan7270 people like you really do annoy me .
Are you really saying what the victim is doing is wrong like wtf . dude the VICTIM never said Garam should leave the group all she WANTS is garam to apologise .
As a person who got bullied you giving the victim the fould for what garam did truly hurts .. like the way you just say its the victim fould for thinking about killing
themself
( like I can just See you have never been bullied)
Like the reason people kill themself is because they don't See a way out of the situation .
In this case garam bullied someone , she did get violence towards the victim
Because how else did garam get a restraining order .
So the victim got bullied maybe for years days or months we don't know...
So but yourself in the victims shoes
You feel sad , you have anxiety , you are scared so you don't see a a way out of the situation and you are like 12 its to much to handle for your age so you think about suicide , you don't ask for help .
Lets say 4 years have past a lot of things have happen .. BUt you have not forgoten that you did get bullied because (if you get bullied you will never forget it just belive me in this )
Now You have heard about the new kpop group lesserafim and you See your middle school bully what whould you do ?
I think netizens would kill the idols if they share gifts or give a gift to a person the fan didn't like :(
there’s no way you don’t know about Garam’s bullying scandal. she’s not “discriminated against” the general consensus among kpop stans is that she’s a bully, and does not deserve celebration for her past actions
This channel owner might think she's innocent 😒
It’s confirmed the other alleged victim also took part in the violence so don’t act as if Garam is the only bad one here. Both the alleged victim and Garam had a fight because one of Garam’s friends bottom part was taken in a pic by a friend of the alleged victim or the victim herself and leaked it to the public. We can’t confirm ourselves if Garam is innocent or not, we are not the court so let’s wait for the court verdict.
She was 12 when it happened. And is now 16 years old. She has gotten more hate now then the supposed victim 4 years ago.
@@scallywags666 the girl literally tried to kill herself and she do not feel any sorrow at all...
She never apologized, clearly do not intend to and she's acting really bad towards her groupmates, specially Sakura and Yunjin, that have to way for experience (and talent) than her. She's actually being treated really nice considering how mean she is. Your opinion is clearly from someone who never suffered bullying and don't understand
@@txtmoa6136 yes, but Garam is not actually being mistreated. Being silent when she shows up is actually better than booing her or insulting
I feel so bad, it’s so sad that some people ignore hobi. He’s the best. I hope he’s happy and healthy always.💜
People keep saying Bahiyyih was selected as a kep1er member because of the votes she got from MOAS. And I won't lie I knew her because of her brother. But after I got to know her, I completely fell in love with her personality and I think she really deserves to be an idol and doesn't deserve all this hate. We love you bahiyyih
there were more deserving than her to be in Kepler.. some people felt that those who voted for her robed those who were more talented and charismatic during gp999..
@@shiddsteddy7236 actually that's true there were many talented people but I think we can appreciate them without degrading bahiyyih??and just because other talented people were not selected...it doesn't mean that kep1er fans can mistreat hiyyih like that?they could have at least given her one gift:(
@@shiddsteddy7236 There were 99 girls for only 9 spots...
Bahiyyih did a very good job the whole time. She does deserve to win a spot.
Indeed, many deserving girls had to go home, but after seeing their fav leaving, people literally unleashed their anger over Bahiyyih *for having a famous brother* it was like they set a target mark on her back to blame her for everything.
Like she doesn't have a freaking dream too.
I don't stan Kep1er, but what haters did to her is just monstrous.
@@haerinsgirlfriend stop responding to that person, they’re a known hiyyih anti
@@WhiteSwan1997 bahiyyih had a better chance at auditioning directly to a company to be a trainee and debut there( that is if what they say about her being talented is even true).. but she had to make it harder for more unpopular girls in gp999 to have a chance at debuting.
Garam didn’t deserve any of the hate she got and to be kicked out of the group, I don’t get why they didn’t ask her to come back when the accusations were literally proven to be false 🙄
I really hope we get to see her fulfilling her dreams in the future.
"yeah we all chose our rooms"
"Can i have the room shared with 2 others and divide the space up with some boards? I just love the luxury of small spaces."
Hiyyh is my bias and honestly noone asked to be one of TxT members little sister. She is so kind and sweet. No followers no gifts doesn't mean anything.
J-hope’s case made me really tearful. He’s my bias, but I love all members equally. They are all so unique and hardworking in their own ways. The vlive in where “fans” were asking where the other members were and he literally had to write on a board “J-hope’s live” to make them understand it’s his vlive, not the other members make me cry. They all should be treated equally and no other BTS member should go through what he’s going. Luckily, he’s getting more love day by day. And all of these cases are sad. I hope the idols live a peaceful life…
how can you make the fan love all the girls group members equally, what a chore.....
The case with JHOPE is getting better.true ARMY has always loved BTS. HYBE too hasn't been too mean with this case.
bahiyyih is my bias, it breaks my heart seeing how mistreated she is by k-nets, like its inhumane to purposely just ignore her and shower affection and gifts to other members. I swear, I just wanna travel to Korea to give her a hug, she's an angel and I adore her sm.
and a certain engllish speaking demographic that i dont even need to name on twitter are racist and bitter towards her its not just knetz
she is just not charismatic and her personality isnt even like of an idol.. other introvert idols still slay when they pose or have to be in front of the camera.. bahiyyih is just looking awkward most of the time..
@@shiddsteddy7236 but thats totally so inhumane to ignore one person in a group
Keep yourself in her position and think that if someone does this to you
Also she is a very talented artist she deserves all the love😣😣❤❤❤
@@Lucyllee123 yess excatly, thank you for showing support and understanding how no one deserves to be left out.
@@S80-r1o yess agreed, but like in fanmeets where the majority that attend are Korean fans, it just makes my blood boil seeing how they treat her.
Hobi always suffered with the indifference of some "armys" since BTS rookie days. Actually, RM and Jhope always were the least popular among the other members, but Jhope for some reason that I can't understand, always suffered the most. I can remember the hashtags demanding him to leave the group and brokes my heart when I remember he in fact thought leaving BTS. Hobi is the most precious person in the world and I can't understand why he's so underrated. He's the best dancer that I ever seen, his charisma is overwhelming, his stage presence is everything. He's the best definition of talent. He is our sunshine and deserves everything.
did he do something controversial i mean its been like 7 years or so and people dont like him?
There’s nothing controversial. It is because some futile “fans” call him ugly…
@@aplaraujo250 yes. Hobi and Namjoon suffered since debut days with this type of comments by their "fans". They were insecure about their appearance with Jhope covering his face and Namjoon using sunglasses to feel himself more confidence. I glad both them looks more self confident these days.
@@winniejung no, he is actually the only member who never get involved on any controversy. All the members have some controversy involving their name (some really dumb), but he is the one who never get involved in any polemic attitude. He was hated mostly because of his appearance, some armys calls him ugly and because of his personality. For some people, he always want to get attention, that he's exaggerated and fake his personality.
That's not true, especially nowadays. Namjoon suffered and still suffers the most, jhope is the 6th most popular idol
As for Bahiyyih, it was really sad that she didn't get a single gift from fans but I disagree with the members sharing their gifts to her because it would also be rude for the fans who gave them those gifts. Just imagine, you gave your friend a gift and she gave it to someone else, that wouldn't feel okay, right?
Exactly that's what I thought, sharing personal gifts would have caused further backlash on Bahhiyyih. In other fan meetings, members of groups don't share flower crowns or other things unless prepared by the management themselves. Still sad to see she didn't receive any gifts, I think mostly because her fanbase is global but once fan meeting access becomes more accessible to foreign fans I think she will actually receive way more gifts
I don’t wanna sound arrogant but I’m proud to say that in all of my years in kpop, all the groups that i Stan i never discriminated a single member, I’m always an OT-all fan.
J-Hope and Rei are my biases, it breaks my heart to see this 😔 Poor Bahiyyih! If I went to a fansign, I'd bring something for every member, everyone in a group deserves equal love.
When you’re going to stan a group you should stan them all equally
Stan the one you're heart goes to. Don't send I love you r you're the best to member you don't even care about. That's faking yourself. But I don't mean you should ignore a member. But if your heart is not with x member don't force yourself
But in the case of of the ot6 fan (BTS). I don't know how not stanning a member makes you to forget his or she is part of the 🤷
@@beyemeangeline9406 what do you mean?? Ot6??
the fact the large room is bigger than the three individuals combined
if wonio were to share such room with yujin and any other of the six the amount of hate would be the same ...
J-Hope’s still my favorite member, no matter what!!
To all the people who did this .treat them how u want to be treated😑😟
Garam really deserves this. Still shocks me how she was able to debut in HYBE with such history.
I think your the one who deserves some medicine.😂🤣😂
@@Kirbyystomp they 100% knew, how do you miss a restraining order? They just didn’t care and thought they could silence the victim
@@Kirbyystomp or apparently she was never a bully and just had an argument with the "victim".
I think we should stay neutral
@@rockyrockelle642 i think that too the victim can be a vanillin too. But that kim garam she just need to fix her self
Especially with Hyde’s track record with ggs, the previous one they debuted, Glam got into a scandal where a member blackmailing some actor and one has rumors of being a sasaeng but that’s just a rumor, I would’ve assumed they would do anything for the past not to repeat 💀
Imagine working day and night, strict diet routine which is equivalent to literally eating nothing, going through severe mental health traumas and then ending up with this, heartbreaking isn't it?
The IVE case is so dumb cus the girls chose it themselves they even admitted it rei gaeul and leeso wanted to stay together because they all keep talking till 3 in the morning and they were closer to each other
Lol leeso rei gaeul just defending them mayb they told to do so..only blind would say their agency don’t promote wonyoung only
@@SunhaJae am blind because I think the agency isn’t only promoting wonyoung maybe at the beginning of ive they did that but lets be honest here you are a company and you are trying to promote your products then you get a list of people amd wonyoung is part of that list you would choose her because she has the most sway in all of them so stop blaming the girl for her popularity and go touch grass you weirdo
No issue=no war
no war=no recognizition
no recog=no fame
no fame =no money
no issue=no money
Rei is literally my bias and Seeing her and the 2 others members not being treated right is just making me upset and sad
the layout of the house is literally like this:
Masterbedroom: Biggest room in the apartment, bigger than the 3 individual rooms combined. Have a walk in closet and bathtub.
3 Individual Rooms: Just a bedroom, no bathroom, the three of them have to share one and its just a shower room so its relatively alot smaller.
The individual rooms would be too small for 2 ppl to stay in plus the master bedroom would be too big for just 2 ppl to stay in so it make sense that they divide it as it is.
I don't think a bully deserves sympathy.
The disrespect towards Hobi is far too much! I read he doesn’t like to do solo Lives due to some fans keep asking where other members are. Making him feel like they rather have that member doing a live instead of him.
*No. It's not fair. J-HOPE? NO. He.. He does not deserves this! I love him. (Ofc as an idol) he's the most caring person. And when he cries, it made me tear up more and more. And the dances he do is so amazing! He's our sunshine, he's our hope, j-HOPE.*
#RESPECTJHOPE
@cookies and cream yeah ofc💜
Honestly idols who didn't do anything deserves better
None of them deserves to be treated this way........they're also human not object, so please treat them equally and support them. No one is born perfect please know that as well.
_Jhope is a perfect idol! How can no one praise him? He’s my bias and a great dancer! Please __#HYBE__ give jhope more rapping lines!_
GAEUL is actually my favorite member in I’ve!
If company do that we can complain but what to do when fans are doing this discrimination
Not understanding that they are group not solo
and you hater still trying to look nice again after being exposed with this account too for being a hater...just like all your other accounts
The members of BTS who must be respected : Jin, RM, J-Hope, Suga (they are the ones who have struggled the most)
that’s just wrong for the last group
Garam just don't deserve too much hate at her age🥺
Why didn’t you mention the reason why Garam is getting ignored
I woulnd't surprise me at all to find out that Kepler members were icy and mean towards each other behind the scenes. There are so many of them still competing against each other for attention. Putting that many immature girls in that kind of environment, and in a company that's not a big 3... Kepler is probably wild behind the scenes.
really happy Hobi is giving concerts and being very popular lately! His fans are super faithful and praise him as he deserves! Plus I've seen how all BTS members are very supportive and always cheer for him! Hope all members get treated equaly
Please make a video on best female dancer third and fourth generation please
Garam shouldn't be cast in the same sympathetic light that the others are
Garam has bullying accusations against her. Apparently they're even proven true. So...I don't think she's the victim here. I'm not saying she deserves to be ignored, I'm just saying she's not all innocent despite her young age.
Rei, gaeul, and leeseo deserve so much more love they are all so talented and pretty ! I don't get the room situation tho. Everyone should get their own private room. This is unfair to the girls.. please support them no matter what and stream love dive!
while they all deserve that, you should understand that their situation is much better than other groups. the girls wanted to share an apartment but imagine finding one with 6 rooms! many groups like enhypen all share one room with bunk beds, so the girls actually like luxuriously for rookies. although they’ll get much better treatment as their career continues
There room are good for rookies better than many others. But I think REI, Gaeul and Leeseo deserve more love, I think Gaeul and Lesseo are in a situation worst than REI, and I can see that even though REI is my bias so that's probably saying something
To me, most of the time the most disliked group members end up being the more successful members and that's what's amazing about it, only the ones who are disliked for stupid reasons that are not true, or just stupid reasons overall. Garam obviously is getting a lot of hate for what she did and she deserves some of it but she doesn't deserve threat to lives or her family being threatened as that is too much, she apologized to her victims when she found out she was debuting which makes it look insincere af, if she had apologized before that while she was doing the bullying and better'd her self then, then id understand, as i was also bullied a lot, and would forgive my bully if they did that, i don't get bullied anymore cause i don't put up with it anymore thank god.
Huening Bahiyyih is my bias out of all the members in Kepler
It’s terrible how the some fans are so mean to some idols🙁
The J Hope case is honestly disgusting. J Hope isn't even controversial, it's just toxic "armies" bringing a part of what they stan down.
Bahiyyih & Gara’s case is what I’m afraid of i’m scared of feeling embarrassed infront of alot of people receiving nothing or just getting ignored
ARMY'S love Hobi And he's Not invisible to the group- BTS is 7 and always 7 no one in the members will be left out💜❤🩹
Jhope is literally my bias it really hurts me to see him like this. I love him soo much honestly !😭❤️
I'm torn in Garam's case. At first, when she was labeled as a school bully I didn't like her already. But the more details are presented the more I think the hate towards her is a bit excessive. Although I agree she should leave the group for the remaining five's sake since she indeed did something terrible. What I understood so far according to all the reports and receipts, Garam and her friends bullied the victim at the beginning by intimidating and ostracizing her (still no violence here, just infuriating) then she opted for revenge by posting ill-captured photos of one of Garam's friends. Which in my opinion is a low blow. Then everything turned to violence. Which is wrong. But they were 12 at that time. The most impulsive point of a teenager's life. Which is still wrong! But the hormones at that age are something. I was suicidal from that age up to 15 for all dumb reasons. I wanted to slap my past self.
Anyway, as for the victim's attempted suicide, the one who should be blamed was Hybe. She did it because Hybe labeled her as the "real" bully causing her to receive threats and hate. She even got harassed in school. It should not be blamed on Garam. She has no control over what the company decides to say. All she did is put her trust in them.
In conclusion, although I agree that Garam should be removed from the group since she is not qualified as a role model to the youth, she should not be threatened or hated. Give that privilege to the victim.
She got a degree 5 punishment which means she beat up the victim repeatedly, the fact that she got degree 5 punishment is official. The victim had to transfer to another school and attempted suicide. I don’t understand how you can defend her, It’s immoral
@@everythingsfinett3903 I'm not defending her and I'm not saying she didn't act violent. I clearly stated that "everything turned to violence". What she did was wrong. I'm just saying that the blame should be given to the actual perpetrator.
The bullying and violence should be blamed on Garam and her friends. But the suicide attempt should be blamed on Hybe. Some netizens are blaming the suicide attempt on Garam painting her as an indirect murderer which is I think is unfair for Garam. Yes she is a mean girl and I don't like her for that. But giving too much hate and threats to a 16 year old is just too much. Even a 30-year-old or older can't even handle that.
regarding the first situation, they could've just provided bunk beds for each room. Then each room will have 2 members. It can also be that they put two beds in the room, it's quite spacious tho. and made the big room their wardrobe. like in the suju dorm that kyuhyun and eunhyuk live, I think they have a shared big wardrobe in their dorms. If the company had better space management from the start, then members could just choose which roommate they want than have these choices where people can have doubts.
Jhope is a very talented guy...he is an all rounder, being the main dancer, sub vocalist, rapper, and also has contributed into writing and composing many songs, he has a bubblly personality and a kind soul and a charming aura....jhope deserves all the love he is getting and should get more
Yes he used to be ignored but now he has a bunch of fans that loves him hobi fanbase is really big so i'm glad he's not letting a few fans who doesn't stan him and doesn't like him get to him in 2019 i think it was he got his first standing ovation and cheers from all the army's he looked so happy and was so excited hearing army's cheer his name.
Why did he used to be ignored? Were there any particular reasons?
Everyone deserves love , please don't hate anyone
If one idol will remove that group will be broken hearted so , love them equally 💜💜
They are against any form of bullying but then takes part in it too.
Out of three whole hours he got only four minutes to actually rap/perform is so sickening
My opinions about K-pop idol’s, they’re should be treat well and equally, everyone in groups, no playing favorites including fans too.
Plus is a lot rejecting-in groups too
But I think hoseok is not ignored anymore like he got the loudest cheer during 'just dance performance'. About forgetting him to put in VCR or stuff. It happened with all the other members too(forget to put V in louis vuitton or forgetting to put Jin's pic etc). But hoseok is so kind that he always push other members (especially maknae line) before him in the centre.
But before there are times when my poor hobi got ignored for sure. When every member got message on their fancafe or when he was doing a Vlive but some rude people keep asking about other members.
But honestly you don't have any idea about hoseok popularity when I attended their concert in Chicago I felt like hobi was everyone's bias because everyone's start screaming even louder when hoseok's part came or he appear on screen.
Who dare hurt hobi? If you hate him I really don’t trust you😃
Hobi is so strong 🥲❤️🔥
I don't understand why people are rude like that 😓no!!! really!! Why do people hate someone for things
If it turns out Garam's case is another Jimin y'all are gonna feel terrible
it did turn out she's innocent now
This is one of the reason why idols do suicide because of discriminations cause by the company. Mistreatment can cause their morale down big time. Korean fans are really terrible in discrimination and worst disrespectful bashers. They are one factor to be blame causing idol suicide to include the companies abuse and discrimination. These kind of attitude and behavior should be changed.
J-hope and Hiyyih deserve better! I hope they keep doing them and ignore the negativity from people
Garam too
@@elsak2202 yess especially Garam!!
This is so unacceptable considering these are all my favorites people need to start paying attention to this.
I love Gaeul! Full support for her!
Garam is only 17 years old please give her a chance
If you guys don't want hobi, just give him to me!! I'm ready to adopt him 😭❤️
this is always happen in many korean film ,movie or tv series nowadays some of supporting cast overrated or with too much exposure are always ignore by fans or in random interview
Tbh the leeseo rei and gaeul one is really unfair they should have private rooms and should be treated equal and for garam she deserves it i mean i used to stay netural too but now its obvious she is a bully she deserved the silence that was made for her and tbh jhope one is unfair people usually only care about tha maknae line and forget about the hyung line
Dude, I just want to cry. Man I wouldn't be able to continue if things like those happened to me, but they still go on and fight for what they truly love to do
Garam gets silence because netizens want her gone. Hybe is really showing their ass with that whole situation.
That first young lady...the look on her face when they didn't leave a gift for her, heartbreaking and as a mother, I was pissed!!!!!!
Jhope is my Bias in BTS... he is such a beautiful person... people hating him must be having a sad lifestyle or either total emotional blind sick people... our Hobi shines so beautifully always no matter where ever he is... he will forever be my ultimate Bias and sunshine...🧡💫🥰
I seriously hate Starship so bad. These 3 girls deserve none of that. If the company truly cares about all members, they should have purchase another condominium for private rooms. But instead crammed Leeseo, Gaeul and Rei in a single room without renovation for walls and personal rooms? Talk about favoritism.
Seventeen dino, fans were scolding each other and fighting cause he keeps being ignored in fan meets and things like that, fans where telling each to even if you don't like this idol much be polite and talk to them. He is not of the least popular members, when fans goes to him he gets all happy and thank them.
It is pathetic to see mistreatment from their own company, members and fans for whom they had worked so hard and debuted scarifying their time. Everyone deserves equal treatment. When you join a fandom you should show love and respect to the group and the group consists of all members. Their success and failure include each one of them, not a particular person.
Well I do not agree about Jhope getting ignored bcz all BTS members, ARMYs and HYBE staff love him and why not he is such a sweet soul after all 💜 Jhope is ARMY's love, heart and life
This is what I always say. People love the I’m this group fan or that group fan, UNTIL.
They only they’re favourite ones. Yesss we all have our favourite or our bias in a group. And we all have our every right to support our faves, but you can’t call yourself a fan of a group if you’re only paying attention to your favourite, ignoring all others members
I am not a Kep1er's fan but when I see bahiyyih without any gifts I got herat broken. Look how they traded her she leterly not cry herself.
Agreed
Wow so if fans don't give gifts to certain idol because they do not like her does that mean the idol is being mistreated???
my heart broke when i saw hobi on the thumbnail. he doesn't deserve this being the person that he is. i hope he gets more lines in BTS next comeback
I do not understand how people that call themselves fans can be so damn cruel!