ROLEX Explorer II - 3 Things I LOVE & HATE

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
  • Six months with the Rolex Explorer 2 (16570). Here are 3 things I love and hate about this luxury watch.
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Комментарии • 131

  • @jdblake22
    @jdblake22 6 лет назад +29

    dude... the crazy amount of cuts in the video are driving me insane.. I made it about a min into it.. gotta jump..

  • @rbcroosendaal7381
    @rbcroosendaal7381 Год назад +2

    Best Rolex of History

  • @SoCalWatchReviews
    @SoCalWatchReviews Год назад +1

    Great video man 👏

  • @sheldonm3535
    @sheldonm3535 5 лет назад +3

    I love the polar explorer II. Very underrated watch imo.

  • @ilivill
    @ilivill 7 лет назад +22

    sell the watch to fund a better audio experience, submarine bloopy audio is what I hear.

  • @iggu74
    @iggu74 6 лет назад +4

    For me the best Rolex - GMT, date and waterproof at a great pricepoint, mine is enroute. Bought this over the sub.

  • @ViperSRT1008
    @ViperSRT1008 7 лет назад +4

    Another excellent review! I just bought my first Rolex recently and I could not be happier. They really are incredible pieces.

  • @kiwijack9195
    @kiwijack9195 7 лет назад +2

    Thanks, this review convinced me to keep my 16570 as well

  • @michaelanderson001
    @michaelanderson001 6 лет назад

    I bought an Explorer II (white dial) in 1994. Still have it, but don't wear it as much because my ailing eyesight doesn't focus as quickly on the white dial. Hoping to buy an Explorer I in the near future.

  • @Halfmoon67
    @Halfmoon67 7 лет назад

    Crisp editing, clever comments, well structured review. Congrats, u just got yourself a new subscriber ! Keep up the great work man!

  • @joostverschuur8925
    @joostverschuur8925 4 года назад +1

    Hope you still have it! Prices have been rising a lot over the last few years. With some of the Variants being highly sought-after

    • @EMKWANREVIEWS
      @EMKWANREVIEWS  4 года назад

      I sold this to find my Blnr at retail which I feel was better. The Blnr has gone up a considerably more amount than this would have.

  • @pennfootball71
    @pennfootball71 7 лет назад

    I love my newer GMT II if you keep it clean you will never have any bezel issues. BUT they do charge you for it! The one thing i don't like about it is setting it is a bit of a pain and sometimes you pull the crown out it doesn't stop the seconds hand as easy since you have to tug on it a little harder than a traditional 3 hand model.

  • @jeffreyscott927
    @jeffreyscott927 7 лет назад +2

    fantastic video, i always enjoy what you bring to RUclips. keep up the great work!!

  • @longbow0728
    @longbow0728 7 лет назад +1

    I bought the same watch, a bit older (with the 3135 movement) with a light patina forming on the tritium (its almost dead, but thats why I got the tritium model, I want it to age).
    Agreed on all counts, its fits my less flashy style of dress and easily slips under the cuff when needed to dress up, plus mine has the case holes, so a nice leather strap to match my shoes/belt goes well.

  • @danielchin5847
    @danielchin5847 7 лет назад +4

    Nice one Emkwan. Would love to see more watch related content from your channel to put u up there with the likes of TUG. Pls review Rolex submariner, rolex Daytona, omega Aqua terra, omega speedmaster, mid tier sinns

  • @joelopic
    @joelopic Год назад

    I've owned the explorer 2, submariner and seadweller, all recent models and the explorer 2 is by far my favourite in regards to aesthetics and legibility, it just looks better and had more presence. Period.

  • @projekt679
    @projekt679 6 лет назад +7

    I got the polar because it’s has a great movement and most importantly nobody knows it’s a Rolex.

    • @BobPDXz
      @BobPDXz 6 лет назад +1

      Yes, I get that, because in my past, I have experienced some client/customer resentment with my flashier Rolex's.

  • @Super1venom
    @Super1venom 6 лет назад +29

    white dial for me

  • @andersjensen1499
    @andersjensen1499 7 лет назад

    I got the same watch - had it since 2004 and I still use it very much - simply because I feel that it works with all situations.

  • @billmcgee3482
    @billmcgee3482 6 лет назад

    Great review. I just picked up a brand new Explorer II, and a few things have changed and a few not so much since your review. Mine is a 42 mm, black face as well. The GMT hand is now orange, as is the name 'Explorer II' on the watch face, which seems trivial, but the two orange colors really make for an interesting look. Those are minor.. the Lume, unfortunately, appears to be the same, not so long lasting, and as one reviewer pointed out, very ironic given the spelunking origins. The clasp however has improved greatly, including the addition of a quickly adjusting feature that allows you to expand/downsize the band by 5mm (what they call a 5mm Easylink comfort extension). I use this feature multiple times per day, and have to say this is the most comfortable watch I have ever worn. MSRP at US $8,100 currently.. which is a little lower than the 40mm Submariner Date.

  • @Romio666
    @Romio666 6 лет назад

    I guess the white dial with pin holes in the lugs and regular clasp are more collectible. I really enjoy them because they are different from modern ExpII.

  • @itsKibbleTalksWatches
    @itsKibbleTalksWatches 7 лет назад +10

    It's a beauty! Great video :D
    I hope to own the white dial one day :P

    • @tonynguyen2117
      @tonynguyen2117 6 лет назад

      Kibble Watches I got the white polar dial and it is beautiful

    • @billmcgee3482
      @billmcgee3482 6 лет назад +1

      Very little selection on that site...you must have snagged the last Rolex! The polar is sharp, I ended up with the black dial, but it was a tough decision...

  • @pacbellfan
    @pacbellfan 4 года назад +1

    I have a suggestion: rather than holding the watch under discussion in your fingers and then constantly moving that hand during your discourse (which is disarmingly distracting & somewhat annoying) why don't you just place the watch on the tabletop between your hands with the face facing the camera, and discuss whatever you wish to talk about? Then the viewer, like me, can focus on listening to your words whilst looking at the subject of those words, namely--the watch. I think that would make a much more effective video. Thanks.

  • @ihopetowin
    @ihopetowin 7 лет назад +15

    A good review marred by constant distracting and irritating stop-start editing, however I have subscribed.

    • @georgiebungle2252
      @georgiebungle2252 7 лет назад +2

      ihopetowin You are right ! That is irritating as hell !!!

  • @TimeToGoTravelAndTimepieces
    @TimeToGoTravelAndTimepieces 7 лет назад +2

    Great vid. One of my favourites from Rolex. Hope to own one at some point. Cheers👍

  • @220010722001
    @220010722001 5 лет назад

    Nice review. I tried on a 2014 Explorer II Polar today and loved it. I think though that I'd prefer an older 40mm version. Ready to buy but I'm very indecisive. Suggestions welcome.

    • @EMKWANREVIEWS
      @EMKWANREVIEWS  5 лет назад

      Papa G honestly I’d recommend waiting now. Baselworld 2019 is around the corner when new watches get announced from Rolex. Rumours are we may get updates to the explorers so it would be easier waiting.

  • @5883rich
    @5883rich 6 лет назад

    Have a GMT coke and yesterday purchased a explorer 2 black face 2003 y series. Not for everyone but I really love the watch and think the watch is under priced at the moment. I think in years to come this watch will be one to watch out for.
    What do people think ?

    • @5883rich
      @5883rich 6 лет назад

      @@millenarywatches8413 Agree totally watch this space.with the Rolex Explorer 2 post 2003. It's the last of the Rolex models that have not had fairy dust sprinkled over it.. Steel sports watch GMT...I'm not a betting man but I feel confident on this one...

  • @jimphone
    @jimphone 7 лет назад

    NIce. I love my Black 2008 16570, out of my 4 Rolex watches the explorer ii gets probably the most wrist time. If I had to let go of my watches and keep one I think the Explorer II would be a serious contender, even over the Ceramic Sub. It's the perfect size for me. It's understated and I love the simplicity of it. It's an unrealised classic.

  • @akent46
    @akent46 5 лет назад +1

    Now you just need some dress advice. Pocket square doesn't match tie in any way.. doesn't match anything, stripes on shirt, crossed lines on tie and another pattern on the pocket square... all conflicting/too busy and non complimentary. 16570s are awesome though 😁

  • @timur9429
    @timur9429 6 лет назад

    I 100% going to buy one of this one ... I prefer the white dial but I‘m hoping that I‘m not massively overpaying because these go up in value like hell right now

  • @martinbmx7
    @martinbmx7 4 года назад

    You already made some good money on this model my friend. I bought the same a few weeks ago

    • @EMKWANREVIEWS
      @EMKWANREVIEWS  4 года назад

      I did. It helped fund my blnr. Congrats on your purchase. Wear it in good health and do hit subscribe on the channel too.

  • @grinder2755
    @grinder2755 7 лет назад +1

    I have one of those. I agree bout the clasp. The earlier versions one was even worse.

  • @omarzelaya1152
    @omarzelaya1152 6 лет назад

    Thank you for this great video about this amazing watch.! It feels good to hear beautiful references about this particular watch.! I have the same One.. And I really love it. Where I live I see Rolex watches everywhere but I rarely see the Explorer II.

  • @Milofchg
    @Milofchg 6 лет назад

    Peace and much blessings to you too. YES YES YES you hit the nail right on the head. The Explorer II IS Rolex only pure tool watch today. IMO the perfect Explorer II would be 40mm, new modern oyster clasp, new maxi dial w/orange text/GMT hand. Maybe a ceramic bezel? However, if anyone finds themselves debating 42 mm or 40mm. Also consider the 42mm. It wears small and it's thin. I will say I prefer the black Explorer II 40mm. The white dial 40mm looks too dated because of the small hour markers. If it was a maxi dial? It would be perfect even with the old clasp, the older holes case, or hollow end links.

  • @Crackers2549
    @Crackers2549 6 лет назад

    Very good review...! Thank You

  • @libanlyon6282
    @libanlyon6282 Год назад +1

    The Perfection

  • @evh4611
    @evh4611 5 лет назад

    What year is this piece?Edit: nevermind, 2006 you say

  • @septimiusseverus2685
    @septimiusseverus2685 4 года назад

    It’s destined to follow the pattern of the Daytona to be an iconic watch in near future

  • @DenisHauser
    @DenisHauser 6 лет назад +2

    Great Video and a great watch! :)

  • @michaelphillips5263
    @michaelphillips5263 4 месяца назад +1

    Enough of this spelunking origin stuff -- the original E II had tritium (perpetual) lume, so if you were in a cave with no light, the tritium would glow and you could tell whether it was AM or PM. When they eliminated the tritium and went to luminova, the watch's utility as a cave exploring watch went out the window, and the watch became the same as every other Rolex tool watch with luminova. The E II is just a great watch -- period.

  • @J-SH06
    @J-SH06 6 лет назад

    Non turning bezel surely hinders it as a tool watch. Beautiful watch though.

  • @better_together-w4m
    @better_together-w4m 5 лет назад

    Peace and blessings to you too. Thank you for this video.

  • @maha.b1
    @maha.b1 7 лет назад

    Thanks for the detailed review: great video!

  • @Roger_Eide
    @Roger_Eide 7 лет назад

    nice detailed video as always!☺ didnt like the echo from the room🤔

    • @EMKWANREVIEWS
      @EMKWANREVIEWS  7 лет назад +1

      Thank you... I'm struggling with finding a good recording location. Echo at my place at home is far worse!

  • @bobfrombrisbane1831
    @bobfrombrisbane1831 7 лет назад

    Do you still have the Rolex Oyster Perpetual ?

  • @garychew3958
    @garychew3958 6 лет назад +1

    I'm from Singapore, u make nice video. Please talk about Submariner two tone sunburst or Submariner no date on your next video. Cheers

  • @RANDassociatesinc
    @RANDassociatesinc 6 лет назад

    I love my Explorer II. I have the same model featured here. As for the clasp, while it looks frail and not as "high quality" as the rest of the watch, I find it is stunningly comfortable and sometimes when I am traveling I actually don't take the watch off for a day or two. I don't even notice I am wearing it. As for value, I noticed the same thing years ago: for some reason (likely relatively low demand), the watch has not appreciated as quickly as its counterparts BUT it has appreciated steadily nonetheless; its market value is now more than what I paid for it + what I paid for the complete overhaul by Rolex. Its great to know somethign that I enjoy this much has also proven to be a great investment. Chive on!

    • @martinofidacaro2281
      @martinofidacaro2281 2 года назад

      May I ask what the price was for the overhaul?

    • @RANDassociatesinc
      @RANDassociatesinc 2 года назад

      @@martinofidacaro2281 since its been several years AND because the work needed will vary on a watch to watch basis, you would be best advised to consult with a Rolex repair center.

    • @martinofidacaro2281
      @martinofidacaro2281 2 года назад

      @@RANDassociatesinc so you don't want to say?

    • @RANDassociatesinc
      @RANDassociatesinc 2 года назад

      @@martinofidacaro2281 Do you currently own a Rolex?

  • @armandojuan64
    @armandojuan64 6 лет назад +2

    If I had the money I 'd buy one in white and one in black and that will be it . No more watches for me .

  • @Bruthah
    @Bruthah 6 лет назад +4

    I like when my watch reviewers are well dressed.

    • @EMKWANREVIEWS
      @EMKWANREVIEWS  6 лет назад

      Randy hahahha thanks. Hope that merits a Subscribe 😉 if you haven’t already.

  • @arthurzamora4252
    @arthurzamora4252 7 лет назад +3

    Can u review explorer 1.
    2016 version

  • @aatif2448
    @aatif2448 7 лет назад

    great video emk

  • @TheAmericanStranger1
    @TheAmericanStranger1 6 лет назад

    I had one, great watch, I agree with you on all points. I just sold mine for a lot more than I paid for it.

    • @martinofidacaro2281
      @martinofidacaro2281 2 года назад

      Why did you sell it?

    • @TheAmericanStranger1
      @TheAmericanStranger1 2 года назад

      @@martinofidacaro2281 probably to fund another piece. Are you thinking about buying one?

    • @martinofidacaro2281
      @martinofidacaro2281 2 года назад

      @@TheAmericanStranger1 What do you think about its current price, undervalued or overpriced?

    • @TheAmericanStranger1
      @TheAmericanStranger1 2 года назад

      @@martinofidacaro2281 I like that generation of rolex sports models (five digit references), but I don't think any of them are worth the prices they are going for now. There are plenty of better options at that price point.

  • @shergar878
    @shergar878 7 лет назад +1

    Great Rolex very cool

  • @bhagyanadhanthiruvangatt7091
    @bhagyanadhanthiruvangatt7091 7 лет назад

    Bro...very useful video 👌🏻 please review Rolex datejust 16234 steel, fluted bezel, silver dial .

    • @EMKWANREVIEWS
      @EMKWANREVIEWS  7 лет назад +1

      Thank you. Let me see what I can do about the Datejust.

  • @abdulrahmanmalik8650
    @abdulrahmanmalik8650 7 лет назад

    I literally just found this channel

  • @adnjoo
    @adnjoo 7 лет назад

    Great watch!

  • @toughsolar7966
    @toughsolar7966 7 лет назад +1

    Nice watch and video. I do believe the Explorer I is the most tooly tool watch Rolex makes. I am splitting hairs I know. Haha.
    --Michael

    • @EMKWANREVIEWS
      @EMKWANREVIEWS  7 лет назад +1

      :-) Watches are worth splitting hairs over.

  • @watchesoflondon2333
    @watchesoflondon2333 4 года назад +1

    Mate.... what’s with all cutting!!!!

  • @mariosiaven2965
    @mariosiaven2965 5 лет назад +1

    100 % agree with your assesment of thos piece which im an owner too the thing that i dislike somewhat is the date set which in reality is not quickset and is annoying but all in all an ecellent watch for the money

    • @EMKWANREVIEWS
      @EMKWANREVIEWS  5 лет назад

      Thanks mario. Do you own the polar or black dial? Do hit subscribe to see more on the channel.

    • @williamumbach592
      @williamumbach592 5 лет назад

      mario siaven The date changes with the hour hand rotation, so the most you’d ever have to change it is 15 days (it’s bidirectional) which is 30 laps of the hour hand only. It rotates fast. Better yet, wear it or put it on a winder.

  • @howareyouization
    @howareyouization 7 лет назад +3

    Excellent review! Who cares about the Lume though. Why does it need to last so long? The watch isn't a Christmas tree. How often are you in a place where there is absolutely no light and on top of that you have no light source on or near you. If you are in that situation I don't think knowing the time is your biggest concern.

    • @guillermodvl
      @guillermodvl 7 лет назад +1

      howareyouization If you are with a lady in bed

  • @daevilgoose
    @daevilgoose 7 лет назад

    wouldn't a rotating dive bezel be considered to be quite "tooly?" after all, it does function as a stopwatch without needing a chronograph complication.

  • @antonioescobar6413
    @antonioescobar6413 5 лет назад

    10/11years old....I have the same model that I bought in 1992....

  • @JohnSmith-xq6cv
    @JohnSmith-xq6cv 6 лет назад +2

    I don’t fuck with the beed bracelets

  • @faithplus1588
    @faithplus1588 7 лет назад +24

    Excellent review....certainly better than the shit Archieluxury uploads.

    • @alb.1911
      @alb.1911 7 лет назад +2

      Respecto for the pointiff.

    • @emkwanvlogs
      @emkwanvlogs 7 лет назад

      LOL

    • @Bruthah
      @Bruthah 6 лет назад

      Wizz Freely arch is your daddy

    • @CatholicVampire
      @CatholicVampire 6 лет назад

      Archie is my father

    • @J-SH06
      @J-SH06 6 лет назад

      This guy sounds like his doing his homework, read the manual throughly, hoping for an A. Archie sounds like a man whose lived , sweated and shat it.

  • @Romio666
    @Romio666 6 лет назад

    Oh you in Abu Dhabi; great, can you please introduce me to some local dealers in UAE.

  • @RobertGeez
    @RobertGeez 3 года назад

    She’s a beauty

  • @بوحسنالنقي
    @بوحسنالنقي 6 лет назад +1

    This watch looks terrible with a suit. Sorry but thts the only thing you said that is flat out wrong. This watch cannot be dressed up at all. Youd be better off without a watch if thats all you have when u need to wear a suit

    • @dougm659
      @dougm659 6 лет назад +2

      Don’t where you live dude but this watch is perfect with a business suit as is frequently seen in the City of London or New York!

  • @hund0nation114
    @hund0nation114 6 лет назад

    please use a mic

  • @knightman_cometh
    @knightman_cometh 5 лет назад

    The cut gives me a headache

  • @whoflungshite4668
    @whoflungshite4668 6 лет назад

    EMKWAN REVIEWS, Brand new Explorer 2 cost £5950.....Brand new Sub Date costs £300 more then the Explorer 2.......Brand new GMT-MASTER 2 Batman costs £600 more than the Explorer 2.....NOT EXACTLY THOUSANDS OF £'S DIFFERENT..... THE WAY YOU PUT DOWN EXPLORER 2 BY SAYING "Much Lower Price then Bat Man and Sub" is a joke and a half....I strongly suggest you do your research before you open your big mouth......This is from a big Explorer 2 lover....I bought it and love it....... because it's not flashy not because it's "much lower price".....For a few hundred pounds more I could've bought a Rolex watch most Rolex owners have.......THAT ALONE IS OFF PUTTING.

    • @EMKWANREVIEWS
      @EMKWANREVIEWS  6 лет назад

      Yee Leung urm... this is in terms of a 16570 NOT the larger Explorer 2 !!! I’ve done plenty of research but I also know the condition for pre-owned in the UK is completely different and very irrational.

    • @whoflungshite4668
      @whoflungshite4668 6 лет назад

      Thanks for your quick response.......at least I got one.

    • @EMKWANREVIEWS
      @EMKWANREVIEWS  6 лет назад

      You also have to remember this video is now old. The Explorer 2 has gone up in value as have many other steel Rolex watches.

    • @whoflungshite4668
      @whoflungshite4668 6 лет назад

      Tell me about it ..I bought a brand new non date sub 2 years ago for just over £4000 in Macau now it's going for £5450 that's if your lucky to get hold of one.
      P.S....... sorry, my style is to be offensive cause I know I will get a response.

    • @EMKWANREVIEWS
      @EMKWANREVIEWS  6 лет назад

      Lol it’s ok ! I’m expecting you to subscribe now after all that 😂

  • @kkim5342
    @kkim5342 5 лет назад

    Lume is definitely a problem

  • @jonathanbeninati3507
    @jonathanbeninati3507 5 лет назад

    Stop cutting the video so much holy fuck I can’t watch this anymore

  • @sen795
    @sen795 6 лет назад

    very bad sound quality

  • @whoflungshite4668
    @whoflungshite4668 6 лет назад

    EMKWAN REVIEWS, Much lower price? I just paid £5990 for it ....£500 more than sub no date.
    I suppose £500 is fuck all to you.

  • @fabiano3807
    @fabiano3807 5 лет назад +2

    nice vid, sounds sucks though

    • @EMKWANREVIEWS
      @EMKWANREVIEWS  5 лет назад +1

      Sorry man! Limitations. Hope you enjoyed the video and advice enough to subscribe. Check out my newer videos to see what new Rolex I got.

  • @skillbro7817
    @skillbro7817 5 лет назад +1

    🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

  • @canadarecordsofficial
    @canadarecordsofficial 6 лет назад +1

    Rolex is watch for poor people and those wannabe rich. Real elite wears : Patek, breguet, Vacheron or hublot
    But whatever.. every watch is made for different clientele

    • @Romio666
      @Romio666 6 лет назад

      Grassi TV true, but Rolex isn’t cheap and it’s worn by very rich people too, you can say it’s more worn by “nouveaux riches” compared to the holly trinity watches. However, Rolex stands as the number one collectable watch.

    • @robertalfonso8352
      @robertalfonso8352 5 лет назад

      You gotta be a fucking moron i tell you that much. Imbecile.

  • @brandenalexander6038
    @brandenalexander6038 7 лет назад

    Hublot Big Bang!

  • @kierenmoore3236
    @kierenmoore3236 7 лет назад

    My least favourite Rolex, ever ... I just cannot like these. Hope you got a discount (you bought this new, from an AD?!) - I wouldn't expect these to hold value, like a Sub or DateJust - or most any other Rolex, for that matter ...

  • @DrAdd1999
    @DrAdd1999 7 лет назад

    Panerai

  • @thegoldenmajesticmeatball
    @thegoldenmajesticmeatball 7 лет назад

    What's with the echo habib?

    • @7IRAM
      @7IRAM 7 лет назад

      PlanetPowerHD filming while taking a dump

  • @TimeToGoTravelAndTimepieces
    @TimeToGoTravelAndTimepieces 7 лет назад +4

    Great vid. One of my favourites from Rolex. Hope to own one at some point. Cheers👍

    • @septimiusseverus2685
      @septimiusseverus2685 4 года назад

      TimeToGo Travel And Timepieces you likely will not be disappointed. I prefer this model in my collection to any other: Rolex sub 114060 which in my view is hugely less attractive