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EDIT: So I just found this out -- I know that TahoeDeep and DeepSeaOddities are getting a lot of attention for releasing this footage, but the Magnapinna Archive dropped it FIRST, all the way back in January! ruclips.net/video/hAIEWjZv-5M/видео.html So go give them some love!
And also, y'all, the magnapinna squid called me back and explained that this was just him practicing his break dancing. And now he's b-boying and windmilling and idk what else all over my Patreon: www.patreon.com/theoctopuslady and my Twitter: twitter.com/theoctopuslady Which is fine. He didn't knock over a bunch of my stuff in the process. It's cool. It's chill.
i was really walking around for MONTHS thinking they were aggressive..... only to find out he was just breakdancing. we DO live in a society......
Squid breakdance!
Bumping this so you remember to pin this comment doofus
3:55 Wow, scientists are donks to bigfin squid.
He moved those arms so fast one made a bubble ring
Actually, I'm pretty sure the overwhelming scientific consensus is that magnapinna squids are just quirky little guys and this one was being what biologists refer to as "extra."
he was just "getting his sillies out" as they also say
😂😂
Hes not like the other magnapinna squids!
He got the zoomies like what dogs get
They actually have determined existence of “breaking it down sexual style” and that they are potentially quirked up white bois, with current studies into whether they are goated with the sauce.
She's a maniac, maniac, dancing on the flow, and she's dancing like we've never seen before.
Ten minutes ago I didn't know how much I needed someone to just, keep me updated, on these dangly boys. Now I am enlightened and know otherwise.
Just seems like getting blown around by the current and freaking out, which is the same behavior we've seen any time we've seen behavior from them.
At first I misunderstood and thought it was attacking a fish, but that was because I lost track of space and didn't realize that I was looking at the main body and not an unlucky fish.
He's just doing a little jig
Or or
Man's had a bad dream
I personally choose to think it’s just vibing :)
I like your approach. When this clip surfaced so many... animal content creators jumped on it to say our entire understanding of the bigfin squid had to be changed, and clearly they're predators that specifically eat ROVs and your children, etc. One weird thirty second clip which you can barely understand what's going on doesn't define its every behavior.
it definitely looks like it got caught in turbulence. it does a pirouette and everything as its being tossed about. the weird movement of its tentacles seems like a combination of turbulence and perspective, and since theres not much besides marine snow to give us depth cues it makes the depth of their tentacles look super strange
I think it’s tenticals got tangled
Maybe it’s just happy
maybe hes just doin a lil jig
Looks like it was caught in a current and can’t swim.
I will go with the fun explanation and say it’s reacting due to a gigantic mag spins squid awakening to destroy the world
Maybe it's a mating dance?
Super interesting video!! Magnapinna squid look like a big pile of floaty vermicelli noodles to me. Your channel is great 😄🐙
I think its dancing
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It was clearly just charging its deathray. Its a happy deathray though.
Maybe it tasted something interesting in the current?
I dunno. If you look at the body rather than the tentacles it really looks/behaves identically to the other videos of squiddies getting blown around by the turbulence of the vehicle. I still think that’s what’s going on.
Also looks like it is attempting to reverse course before the filaments change course wildly. The big difference could simply be the orientation of turbines on the ROV.
@@freewilly1193 In the end, I just hope it is OK. They look so fragile and squishy. 😢
The ROV messed that helpless squid up. Simple as that.
@@DogmaticAtheist It looks like it swam away and escaped safely towards the end, thankfully.
It looks like it's trying to escape, poor thing. :/
Something i think is noteworthy is how still the "snow" is until the squid starts moving. I don't get the impression that squid has enough mass to whip all that snow in all the directions that it does. It seems that there is some kind of water movement going on that's manipulating it in part. It might be just trying to right itself in the turbulence.
Here's something that wasn't mentioned:
What if this is a defense/survival technique?
With it's long filliment, it could flail them around as a way to confuse a would be predator?
As far as we know, the filaments are pretty delicate and don't have much muscle on them to be able to deliberately move around like this! Unfortunately this poor squid was just getting caught in the turbulence of the ROV :(
It is a magnopinna
@@MagnapinnaArchive poor bastard
Science tubers: this is so scary
Magnapinna: [screaming in pure distress]
@Magnapinna Archive Do you think it may have been a combination? Using its arms and tentacles to try to flail the filaments and some got caught, or a few filaments got caught and this one misinterpreted it as a predator and tried to manipulate the rest as a deterrent?
It certainly looks like some turbulence action, but also somewhat different from those we've seen before.
That was my thought also.
Like an animal bristling its fur or a bird raising its wings to look larger and more menacing.
Squid looks less menacing when it's attacking or moving imo. When it's just standing stilling, it looks like the stuff of nightmares. Similar to how people have an ideal facial angle when having their picture taken.
It's spooky af when standing still, but the idea that it has active control of the filaments is also pretty scary.
Now imagine being tangled by it and drowned before it eats you.
@@Adventist1997 You’d be killed by the pressure long before you drown lmao
@@Adventist1997 I think I could break those thin strings. A giant octopus or squid would be more capable of hurting/killing me.
Really adds to the thought of them beings like spaghetti. Hell even when "standing" still they look like the noodles hanging off the fork
For some reason (and this could be me completely misinterpreting what's happening on camera), it looks like the squid was SWIMMING AWAY. If it was, lord knows what it WAS, but idk, it's interesting because it could be a potential explanation for that filament acting all jabby: a way to attack or at least intimidate whatever the frick scared it.
Of course, as you said, we need SO MUCH MORE EVIDENCE, but...wow, these squids, man
Could be bait too,maybe they offer one of the limp tentacles so the predator eats it and leaves the main body get away
PS: Probably not because they dont seem to regrow or at least we have seen a 2 with missing filaments but like whats that spindly weak tentacle supposed to do to a predator
Their natural environment is dark, their predators wouldn’t be able to see their crazy filaments. Their filaments don’t have great mobility (other than being able to curl up) so they move really weird all the time.
From what it sounds like the machine itself may have accidentally started sucking it in, you can see one of its fillaments get kinda sucked in and partially broken off in the video as its trying to get away.
Based on the marine snow floating around nearby, I am very certain that this was current hitting the squid. In still water like that, current can travel quite some distance. The water got VERY turbulent when the squid got jostled around.
Yea a lot of the movement of the snow also followed with the movement in the filaments which serves to bolster this theory, though I do really like the idea that it can shrink, elongate, and control its filaments at will like some kind of eldritch spear fishing squid
Looking at the whole video, you can also see how the filaments look really blue when they're not in the light, I think the perceived shortening of its appendages might just be a combination of the current moving part of the long filament out of the light and compression artifacts rendering the already hard to see part invisible.
@@sanicdehedghoug I think that's what is happening. I watched this on my TV in the living room which is a lot bigger than my computer monitor. On the TV you can see the filaments dropping down out of the light and fading into the background and almost becoming invisible. So when the "attack" happens, you can see on the TV that a few of the longer filaments are definitely caught in the rover somehow. And when the last filament shoots out towards the rover, it's actually just getting whipped back up into the light and then comes loose.
“you’d best step off, ROV, or you’re gonna catch these filaments” 🤣🤣🤣
Wow I am super high and this was fascinating!! 10/10 would recommend The Octopus Lady while under the influence. Legally, of course.
me too !!
Me three !!
Me four!
I gotta remember that next time I get some.
me six?
There's also a chance the squid was afraid of the rov and trying to make itself look big and threatening as a defense mechanism. Lots of sea animals do that.
So a creature that lives in almost complete darkness was performing a visual intimidation display? Why would it know to do that?
Lots of sea animals have some incredible adaptations to allow them to see in the deep dark, such as tremendous eyes that let in far more light than ours, echo location, and bioluminescence. The colossal squid, for example, has the largest eyes of any animal on the planet. @@TheWonkster
@@TheWonkster True but doesn't the vampire squid do the same thing
I hope you got to see the new footage from 4/4/2023 by Schmidt Ocean's ROV! It's so detailed and wow!!!!!
To me looks like he is already missing one of his long tendrils, so that's also something to note if that's not just a trick of the light!
Yes, I did see the footage! And yes, I did notice this squid was missing one of it's filaments! There have been sightings of other magnapinna squid missing a filament, too, and they raise that arm up, sort of perpendicular to their body, which this squid was also doing! For some reason. They have no idea why they do that! (Source: journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0241066#pone.0241066.s004 )
If that's true, maybe that would explain his reaction. That he lost it in an encounter with a more predatory animal and wasn't interested in losing another. I wouldn't necessarily say he was attacking, but it does give the impression that he's trying to intimidate in some way. But this is all just non-marine biologist me!
@@OctopusLady Cephalopods don't have proprioception, right? Instinctively trying to support the weight of a filament on an arm that's missing that filament would result in it being raised.
My three theories…most of which are jokes
1) it’s having a stroke
2) it got a case of the zoomies
3) this is just how they swim when they’re not “hunting”
i vote zoomies
Could it be that the rov’s propellors caused a “suction” which pulled the filaments in, and the squid panicked and swam away, with its filements still sucked into the current?
That's what it looks like to me.
That’s exactly what it looks like to me
Finally been looking for this comment
That’s one thing that I was thinking. I just don’t believe that such a calm little (not little) guy could attack like that.
Except for the fact that like was said in the video, for the ROV to acquire the shot of the squid (which is 40-50 feet long) you have to be a pretty large distance away to capture it, The ROV isn't anywhere near the squid.
I think there are two things going on: the jostling of the body by the current (likely ROV generated) and the shooting out/rapid retracting of the tentacles as you've pointed out. To me it almost looks like it's trying to grasp a "foothold" to steady itself, or attempting to use its tentacles to swim. Either way she is scary and I love her for it. They're unsettling looking animals and that's what makes them so intriguing. Those tentacles are *so* long! It's uncanny!
That was my thought too, its body sort of follows that one weird acting filament.
He’s amazing, a novel blend of modern dance and breakdancing… loving the vids, please keep em coming.
Wow this is the first time a creator liked my comment, thx sm
I'm quite convinced that if you call up a magnapinna squid you would only heard screams on the other end.
I think it would be like anxiety nervous screams
@@benadrylgelllzzz5724 the poor squid's brain bending trying to comprehend this noisemaking glowing device beyond all recognition
I LOVE MAGNAPINNA SQUIDS!
The thing I’m most excited about is seeing how quickly those filaments can retract! Even in T-pose positions it’s just like ZOOP! And it’s fully retracted!
what if..... this particular squid has encountered a ROV before, got caught up in the thrusters, and learned to see them as a threat? 👀 obviously there's like a million to one chance but I like to think about it, that's my theory 😂
I don't think they can see, they live in pitch black so it would be hard to detect the ROV
It looks like it's trying to escape. I don't see how this is scary.
@@tux_duhthe thrusters on the rov will cause disturbances in the water, kind of like how a housefly can feel the air move in front of your hand. Filaments are pretty sensitive so maybe it detected that.
@@tux_duh
Oddly, to my knowledge there’s not a single deep sea cephalopod species that can’t see. They always seem to go the opposite route, and develop some of the biggest, most sensitive eyes on the animal kingdom, just to spot a glowing shrimp or something.
@@eadgyth5009 "Filaments are pretty sensitive so maybe it detected that."
Are they, though? Remember, researchers have intentionally bumped ROVs into the filaments before, and each time, it drew no reaction from the squid.
this makes bigfins so much less scary in my opinion because it looks *hilarious*
I realize ms.Octopus lady probably wont see this, but Im one of the people who thought it was pulled into a prop on tahoedeep’s reupload, and the reason i think that is because the rov is coming at it from below; you can tell by the fact that it shows the depth decreasing at the top of the screen; which means the rov was pulling the volume of water the squid was in down towards it in order to move upward in the water column, and i believe the behavior we see the squid exhibiting isnt it trying to attack the rov, but instead, i think the little ring of pink material, that we see rise from the lower left of the screen right after the squid’s tentacles seem to be attacking the rov, is a piece of one of its tentacles that had been sucked all the way into the prop, being destroyed in the process, at which point the squid’s tentacles were caught in the flow of the vortex created by the props, and the rapid motion of the tentacle is the squid fighting desperately to break free of the vortex.
You have convinced me, your explanation makes a lot of sense. Also, It makes for a stronger case the use of the ROV onscreen data. Congrats
It makes me feel kinda wrong to even judge animal behavior. Seeing how much of a difference it makes to assume one thing over another in my reaction to it: going from being totally terrified of it, to feeling bad about the poor baby being hurt.
@@isaidromerogavino8902 right? poor thing.
i always try to think about it from the animal's point of view, where in this case, a big concerning whirring thing, bringing blinding light into their dark habitat, came over and bit their tentacle off, so they just want to get away, back to their quiet darkness, away from the bright noisy painful thing that clearly wants to eat them.
makes me feel bad for these poor creatures that we accidentally hurt with our clumsy curiosity, cause we don't mean them any harm, but our machines can injure them more easily than we realize.
i just hope the squid was able to get away and heal up, but injuries can be deadly to animals, not just from infection, but from predation, cause blood in the water can be a death sentence if there are sharks nearby.
@@THarSul definitely, I always try to imagine that these ROVers aren't using blinding lights to film those animals which couldn't be more used to darkness.
Maybe they used infrared lights in this case, but given the detail and color on the video, I'm guessing they didn't (I believe the older videos, those looking kinda creepy-green around an oil rig over the GoM, were actually filmed like that)
I have no idea what's the amount of damage that some squishy animal like this one could handle before being deadly wounded. Probably the rotors on a ROV are more than enough to do so, but I have this unscientific notion about these type of animals, something tells me they're actually very resilient as long as they keep the "bell-shaped" part of their bodies safe. I guess it will be favorable to my state of mind to hold on to this belief, and no fact-check it.
@@isaidromerogavino8902 lol, agreed, let us believe the squid got away and will live a long and happy squiddy life.
I think this is a self-defense movement of some sort. It flails the filaments around and moves erratically to confuse predators as to where the squid itself is.
woaah spageddy attack
The marine snow/ plankton movement is markedly different when the squid is extra active.
Something seems to be affecting the surrounding water as well.
I think that this guy simply had a bad case of possessed by spaghetti
Maybe it got jump scared??? I'm unsure if they have the ability to ink but maybe they bug the heck out when startled? Kinda funny kinda weird, all fascinating... love watching the videos keep it up!!😊
Maybe this could be called an intimidation tactic. The erratic movement with the shimmering filaments is sure to spook any nearby fish that are interested in taking a chomp off of his spaghetti legs. But that would also piint to them having much more control over those filaments. Maybe even utilzing them like an antenna when they truly need to make a safe getaway.
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I don't know what it is doing there. All I know is the footage of it happily flapping its glorious fins and moving "normally" (whatever that means for an organism we have so little footage of) brings me great joy. As does your commentary 😂
Love your channel so much!!!! Your videos and so well researched, and it's clear how dedicated you are to providing the most accurate, up-to-date information (which as a marine bio nerd, warms my lil heart). Your passion for the subject always comes through and the vibes are just genuinely IMMACULATE!! So sooo glad I discovered you through tiktok
It looks to me that what is going on here is that the squid was moving away from the ROV so the end of the filament was closer to the ROV. Then the ROV got to close and the filament got caught in the ROV and started to shake it around a little bit. This was probably enough to scare the squid into running away. I think the movement you were pointing out in the video was just the filament moving in and out of the light as it was still tangled in the ROV. This is all speculation though and like you said we will need a lot more video to know what is going on for sure.
It is quite hard to tell how far the ROV is from the squid because we dont know what the cameras FOV is. It could be a wide angle lens, so the ROV might be quite close. The sudden erratic movement is definitely a current it got swept up in, most likely caused by the ROV. There is this particularly strange movement of this one arm, that does not look like it is caused by the current. Like something is at the end of the arm, but there does not seem to be. Maybe a fish just outside of the light took a nibble on an arm…
I think the arm got snagged in the machine
A wide angle lens would cause significant distortion. Those filaments look pretty parallel and pretty rectilinear.
@@neolexiousneolexian6079 Towards the right edge of the frame it looks pretty distorted.
@@sweatergod5386 Except for the fact that like was said in the video, for the ROV to acquire the shot of the squid (which is 40-50 feet long) you have to be a pretty large distance away to capture it, The ROV isn't anywhere near the squid.
I watched it a bunch of times and it really looks like there is just a bit of the tentacle caught on the rov, and the squid is caught up in the turbulence. You can see the moment the end of the tentacle snaps free and the squid tumbles away. Also at the beginning of the clip as the camera scrolls down the tentacles are extremely close and seem to almost hit the camera or fly beneath it.
Except for the fact that like was said in the video, for the ROV to acquire the shot of the squid (which is 40-50 feet long) you have to be a pretty large distance away to capture it, The ROV isn't anywhere near the squid.
@@PsilocybePsientist that doesnt really track, im pretty sure you dont fully understand exactly all the optics involved in this situation. in fact, the video evidence already presented at 2:54 kinda proves you wrong. and again, you can see the tentacles seem to almost hit the camera 0:20, it seems very plausible one got caught on the rov. also, you can see the particles of marine snow begin to rush past as the rov quickly accelerates away. so either it chased them while wildly spinning out of control but at the same time perfectly matching their speed, or it was caught on the rov...
Dude's just doing a little dance lol
Simple question:
If the squid were attacking what also must be true of its physiology to allow that perceived motion to occur?
I concur there’s not enough data but for that to have been a move of aggression or pursuit, other thing must also be true which would seem unlikely.
1. It's not caught up in the current. You can see the current by watching the marine snow.
2. The ROV is further back, but it's close enough for contact just before the magnapinna acts up.
3. In the previous videos you showed contact was around the fin but here it was the tips of the filaments.
Look at the particulate matter in the water - it stays still for a while and as soon as the squid moves the particulate also moves violently - no way the squid's thing lanky legs can generate all that current. The squid is just caught up in turbulence and is trying to stabilize itself.
3:56: Now I'm just picturing the sub operators driving the ROV up to the squid and going, "Bother, bother, bother!" like in Harry Potter's Puppet Pals, ha ha!
Cool to stumble on your channel. Gotta say, I appreciate that your avatar doesn't have incorrect mouth placement!
There's a really interesting moment about halfway thru the freak out. Follow the tentacle on the left. It looks like it's caught by something behind the screen, but you'll notice that the video somehow managed to fail to capture the middle of the arm and it looks like it's disappeared. But keep watching. It hasn't, because more of the visible part comes back into view, letting you know that there's a lot of the squid that is well past the camera.
IMHO, it's an entanglement.
hes just floating there. MENACINGLY!
Maybe he’s just having a dance party
i LOVE the way that squids and jellyfish get caught in currents because they look so confused and helpless (as long as they leave safely)
Just looking at the nearby snow makes for a good turbulence metric (IMHO).
and yea, funny that one tentacle got pulled down a vortex like that.. what're the chances?
also, being the type to spend loads of time staring at the top of some black coffee, I can say with confidence that:
vortexes happen A LOT with fluids (you drink your coffee black by chance? in the right light it's beautiful!)
Just a silly string guy being a goof. I love him
Never thought a game where squid people shoot each other would get me interested in Marine life.
Maybe this squid 🦑 was just having a really bad day, and the ROV ramming into it multiple times was the straw that broke the camels back.
Okay, that reminds me of something I've seen from an octopus in a tide pool. My kids had found it and were just pointing towards it and it extended one tenticle towards the finger - my take was out was measuring distance and got them to give it space. I would have done that anyway but I was also thinking we could have an octopus climbing up someone's arm situation. While it's not scientific I think it was curious - it wasn't cornered it could have pulled back a lot deeper into the rocks. That's what I think that was, I think it was extending one appendage because it was curious and I think they get a lot of information from touch. The RV backing up then probably caused it to flip from curious to fuck it, it's weird now I'm out.
If that WAS an attack, it was the limpest, most pathetic looking attack I've ever seen, lol! Such an effective predator, floating around like a bowl of scAwY spilled ramen
Do they hear? Imagine hearing the roar of motors and feeling shockwaves from working turbines, when all you know in life is flap wings and scoop water grass. Bud is probably cardogging.
In all honesty, I'm *hoping* this thing is an apex predator and we someday get clear footage of its feeding habits. It's got too much scary potential for it to not be terrifying!
Definitely a current. No way it’s body could move like that and would move it’s body like that. Genuinely thought the whole time he was being spun around his things were gonna get knotted.
Obviously it’s breakdancing and is just overall very happy
Wait maybe something attacking it Like a sperm whale or a Colossal squid That Blends in with the ocean
I remember watching the original footage of this squid when I was a teenager and just thinking, how is this just im the ocean and no one is talking about it or trying to find more about them. It was the most interesting thing I had ever seen from the ocean since finding out that Krakens are pretty much confirmed real, obviously not attacking ships, but squids with heads larger than people
Idk why, but it looks like it had the underwater equivalent of a really big sneeze.😂
What if it's a defence mechanism because the only big fins we've seen is ROV'S that seemingly distract them, so the flailing of the filaments could distract from the actual body itself as it escapes
You might as well disable comments, what with the amount of speculative bullshit commenters leave.
Maybe its _not_ getting caught in any currents or discombobulated by turbines, but rather that's the way they try to evade predators. Obviously we don't actually know, but what if that's just its way of trying to confuse and intimidate what it perceives as a threat?
Its just being goofy or maybe trying to move to a different location
he’s just a guy having a good time dw
i think it's so silly that when these squid get discombobulated they just kind of ragdoll
I'm glad I found your channel!! Been on a binge ❤ Your videos are informative and entertaining and I love the lengths you go to in order to credit artists! Looking forward to more content 🎉
Could you discuss about Fanfin Seadevil?
if you look really close you can see that two times it hits the camera :D
if it attacks it or just want to see what it is i don't know.
My theory is that it's just buggin out a lil bit, it's got the jitters cus it's date night and he don't know what to wear
It reminds me of fly fishing. Maybe it’s spreading out to scope if there’s any more food before moving locations, hopefully more footage and research can help deep dive into their behaviors.
Casual Geographic described it well as “a T-posing squid”.
0:38 I noticed some cluster of bubbles float up from the bottom of the screen…
My mum thinks its fishing for zooplankton
I think this one's just spooked. Maybe something was behind the probe? Could have been anything...
To put on the I don't know maybe it's true pile, perhaps the reaction is a defense mechanism. Like an animal bristling its hair and puffing up.
Quickly retracting and shooting out its filaments might make it look menacing to a predator.
But I don't know. Just something that I hadn't seen mentioned before. If you have some kind of spikey thing coming at you you might retreat instead of attack.
Why do know is that I find it incredible that this creature can retract an extended filament like blowing up a balloon. Cool 🎉
my theory is that the squid has anxiety
At 4:25 I see a sort of jellyfish swim up from the center of the screen
It's just an antisocial squid trying to start a conversation!
Maybe it thought there was a predator nearby.
imagine it just chilling and then it goes psycho like that on ur face
This is just a joke, but imagine if whatever it was the squid atacking or being atacked was some organism hiden so well the camera couldnt see it
It’s fighting demons can relate frfr
Damn bro got blinded, had his arms damn near ripped off and blasted Into the abyss and HES the scary one 😂😂😂
Yo I have a wild Idea what if… it’s swimming
Could be infected with something
great work!