@@jacobj6376 I would have used more amperage, but I think we can see at 3:16 that he had some penetration; also he said that it was his first time. If I see crap I vote down, and don't comment because they block you; there's so many worse welds to criticize (even on well known channels), I think we need to wait to see where this ends up after some practice. It's easy to find far worse than this.
Thanks for the concerns about the smoke plume and the risks. I'm mindful and aware of the hazards and we use vents in our shop. However it messes with the audio while filming so I held my breath? Kinda? We should have explained that in the introduction but failed to. Thanks for pointing it out. Good discussion for other videos.
Ha! Ya right, hold your breath. I say the same thing every time I go to weld on some nasty galvanized...holding your breath is a horrible idea!!! I like your humor Bob. I like to put the fan behind me if I can so it's just keeping fresh air flowing through my hood and the nasties out of my nostrils.
Whenever I stick weld with my everlast welder I try to have two fans going. One behind me to bring fresh air in and another in front drawing the smoke away. Where I weld unless I do this the smoke just churns and comes back around to where I am.
I use a vent in my shop and I just bought a ventilator mask to wear to keep some of the other stuff out of my lungs. They're bad enough thanks to my grandfather smoking like a chimney next to me as I grew up. Plus, my vent kinda fell out of the ceiling the other week and I'm not sure that the repair job they did was very good.
+Bob Moffatt - For the purposes of recording a Video with good Audio try a conventional Home Fan (like a Pedestal Oscillating Fan, set not to oscillate) placed ~15 feet away. It's enough to push the smoke away without wrecking the Audio. Breath holding or uncomfortable positions affect the quality. Others: Don't substitute a cheap Fan for proper Equipment (with a Filter). YT, Rob
It is so nice to see a welding teacher that knows what he is doing. I go to a technical college in Georgia and it is a joke. Wish I lived in Kansas would love to work with someone with so much knowledge.
A little late finding you but your information is right on time, I just got a small 20 gal. stainless tank from a friend and wanted to make a shop stove heater with it, not being sure if I could weld a carbon steel exhaust pipe on it I searched for information about it, thank you for this video, it answered my questions
Thanks for this video Bob! I’m looking to weld a 1” stainless plate on the head of a custom made post driver that is made from steel to strengthen it against warping. I found this helpful!
i would like to see a welding fumes extractor. Chromium in the rod cause cancer. As a old experimented welder, you must have to be an exemple for all of us. thanks for all your videos.
That looks really neat!!! After many years of just Tig welding stainless I got a tiny stick-tig welder and been trying out stick welding with stainless 3/32 rod with 308L-16 and soon will try 309L,.. it's really cool to be able to put together different alloys and that the visual outcome is nice and smooth. Dragging the puddle seems to work way better than what I was trying by pushing it (used to the Tig style). Thank you so much for the vid!!!!!
Just some added info that I found while researching what arc rods were needed to weld 316 to carbon steel. Some 308L applications may be substituted with 309L filler metal, but 316L or 316 applications generally require molybdenum and 309L contains no molybdenum. E309LMo-16 has a nominal composition (wt.-%) of 23.5 Cr, 13 Ni, a maximum allowable carbon content of 0.04, and a small addition of molybdenum. So if you are welding 316 to carbon steel you need to buy E309LMO.16 welding rods.
Hello Mr Solar Function, thank you for this information. It is helpful to my sense of self to have someone explain that when combining different materials an intermediary, molybdenum, is introduced to buffer and combine them. David Lixenberg
I would like to see any restaurant equipment welded up. Like table or sink? Not sure what kind of stainless most use. But, I want to weld a table at work.
Yup was looking for a cheap n quick way to patch cattle waterers where the heater electrode underneath had oxidized and cracked the stainless bowl, just need to put in 6" square patches to close out the winter season.
Nice thanks for the tips, I’m self taught stick welder and can lay some pretty good welds but very ignorant of correct methods. I actually like stainless except for the restart ! I did a stainless to carbon on a load bearing item on my land cruiser lasted for a long time but cracked and broke in the middle of Oz, found a real welder who said the weld looked ok but likely I used the wrong alloy, it was a stainless rod but anyway thanks heaps
looking at this video considering doing similar on my Landcruiser welding a steel dump pipe to my stainless vband :D saw your comment and thought similar situation!
Nice demo. Being retired from the heavy equip repair trade all my life I have almost from day one of welding used my Bernard twist lock holder on a lighter 10' whip line that can be attached to the main heavier welding cable very quickly. More maneuverability, less weight fatigue and you can bend the rod in position with a better grip. Even have a regular small clamp style whip for ease of welding. Never see any weld videos showing this but I know most everyone in the field has one. Any thoughts? May make a good option to show to new welders. Thanks Ed K. Cleve. Oh.
Thanks for the video. Have not found any videos on RUclips for doing 309 stick electrode to carbon pipe on a 6G position for fill and cap. Only 309 tig for root and hot pass. Could this be a future video please🤗
Hello, I would like to ask you a question. Which coated electrode should I use to weld a 4140 steel torsional shaft bonded to a 1045 steel plate? Thanks for your suggestion.
I'm pretty new to stick, so forgive my ignorance. Are these 300 series sticks the ones that come in 5-packs,as at Tractor Supply? I was gifted some tig rods in a 5-pack, & I see these 300-series ones in 5-packs, too. I need some, but want to make sure I'm not buying tig rods. Thanks for any feedback.
Hello Mr. Moffet love your show, I do alot of Tig welding on titanium I love the way it runs, pools and looks I thought it would be neat if you did a show on titanium. technique, proper shielding gas etc. look forward to new episodes thanks for all the well prepared information and tips. Tyler smith, Oh.
Good video. What kind of stainless rod would you use if you had to verticle weld? I have a Welder who asked if I wanted to have him weld stainless to mild steel in my outside boiler. Crap steel in this boiler, I have had it welded over 10 times since 2000. Needs it again, thinking about replacing the whole back wall and chimney section.
Bob I really appreciate your skill set and teaching style. Yu touch on a lot of things I totally would agree with, such as not banging the slag off to avoid injury AND to avoid irritating the instructor lol!! My question and youtube research lately has been regarding a stick welder I acquired recently. It is a small "FORNEY" 100 amp ac stick welder. So Ive been wanting to know what its capabilities are because I dont know if its me or the machine, but Im practicing with small 1/16" 7014 rods and the only thing I can do is lay a straight line on flat steel. Haven't been able to do a fillet or even weld two pieces of steel together! I just want to ask you- is it easier to run larger 3/32 diameter rods and what kind of material would be possible? I also tried to weld to large chrome vanadium 1/2" drive sockets together and that was a nightmare. The welds were not sticking... Could you make a video of you welding with a cheap ac buzz box welder showing what they are capable of? Or could someone point me to a similar video? Thankyou..
Stick welding stainless or exotic metal like inconel and hasteloy is some of the most challenging of processes. There is no forgiveness. Any various in manipulation will be seen in the bead. It is very easy is to trap slag. Watch that slag. It is super hot and will make a nasty burn which can last months. If you run vertical up, dissimilar welds like to reject the filler metal and spit it back at you. I experienced this while stick welding cast stainless clips to carbon tubes with inconel. MIG downhand seemed to work the best for this dissimilar combination. The clips were designed to snap instead of ripping a hole in the wall of the tube. It was in the reheat bundles of a 1350 megawatt boiler.
Thank you for creating these films for us. What I'm missing are the following: a word that explains the why; why was it necessary to bind a stainless steel plate to a carbon steel pipe? I don't know what carbon steel is. The definition of steel is elemental iron combined with some percent of elemental carbon at the foundry, and stainless steel has some percent of elemental chromium added to this also at the foundry. Drawings would be helpful. I can't see what's happening behind the glare of the welding flame. A drawing that explained the dimes pattern and how it may be achieved. Thank you for what you are creating for us. David Lixenberg
Been following you for a few years. Luv your work. Are you actually dragging the electrode along the SS plate. I can only wish my pipe welds were as smooth as that.
Stainless can be cut off using a 5/32 7018 welding rod with the welder cranked right up. Be warned.... BIG clouds of noxious black fumes. It gives a very rough cut , but it works if you are stuck with no other options.
You did stick because of the question, but if one were welding the objects you chose would stick be the best choice? I sort of think so but am not sure. TIG would be my next choice and MIG (if one can get 308) last unless one has a high amperage welder. Not sure if a 210A mig would get critical penetration.
Thank you! This was concise and to the point. Very helpful as I have a massive quantity of stainless to weld to carbon. On a related note, any idea of the composition of railroad rails circa 1940s? Stainless plate getting welded to the bottom of them. (Not my call). Thanks again.
Well done. Good video. Always wear safety glasses. Stainless is dangerous. After cooling a while, the very hot slag and even the little varnish spots suddenly pop and fly off. Lots of surprise burns when you weld stainless steel.
hi Bob, great demonstration ! i like running stainless stick it is always fun to test your skills. could you touch on stainless stick root on plate or pipe. I've talked to fielders about techniques , using high amps and putting in a stack of dimes with the stop and go method. same as i use for 3/32 316 rod vertical weld for example. also he was using sodel electrodes never seen them down here in new mexico. best regards mikerodwelds
I'm currently trying to learn aluminium stick welding could you give and pointers. I know it's far from an ideal way to weld aluminium but if it's doable I'll try and learn it. Lots of thanks for the grate videos keep them up
Weld.com great to hear that. I knew one fella who could do a decent stick aluminum weld, but my results have been mediocre at best. Do have a TIG and a spool gun bug sometimes SMAW is needed
Hey Bob, when you are using the esab rebel are you plugged into the 110 outlet or the 220 outlet? I've been a little skeptical about stick. Does the background color on the screen have anything to do with what Outlet you should plug it into or is that just the color it is.
...I've done a bit of stuff for food processing...any carbon to stainless was always 309 flux-core with C02 shield......1/8" rod is about right for stainless...it doesn't like high current.
Thats exactly what I wanted to see. Apparently finding an answer is non existent, refers to tig or mig only. I have the lotos tig 200ACDC, great machine by the way, which can tig or stick weld, but i ran out of fillers, etc & by the time I order materials & they get shipped to NY during this whole corona virus thing, it can be a month or more. So i wanted to see stick welding these two, & here you go. Thank you
Looks like you could've gone a bit hotter, but that's a good test for that machine at 100 amps. What's the max it will run on 115v? I wonder how many 1/8" rods you can run at 100 amps before you hit the duty cycle on that esab. What brand rod did you run. I actually really like the 309 stainless for a lot of reasons outside of carbon to stainless. That heavy slag will dang sure stick to your skin! Bob, you need a little box fan to blow that nasty plume of welding fumes away from your mug, especially with stainless. Hexavalent chromium brother.
I could've had more than a 100 amps but I felt with such a small demo part it would lose color if heated to much. Thanks for noticing. As for the duty cycle on this machine, I'll bet I could run all day at 100 amps with few problems. Great idea for a video, thanks for the comment. B
You seem to like that Rebal a lot I was considering it. My only worry is duty cycle- do you feel it’s duty cycle is sufficient? Looks like it puts down quality welds!
I know zilch about everything said here. What is duty cycle ? Is the frequency of the mains supply ? Does it matter whether a welding machine operates off of ac or has an inverter or operates off of a dc supply ? David Lixenberg
@@davidlixenberg5999 Duty cycle is the amount of welding time before the machine gets to hot and cuts out use to happen a lot with older air cooled fanless machines but the new inverter fan cooled seem to do most jobs round the house.
I asked the hardware store for some rods to weld stainless steel hinges to mild steel and they gave me 208l. I think they gave me the wrong rods. Will it still weld ok guys? I am a relative newby.
please bring your vacuum exhaust close(fumes) to your project, my father inlay acquired Lymphnode cancer from no exhaust vac system close enough to his welding table.
Is there a rod that i can use on this that works other things? Like general steel welding. Or cast steel. Rather not just use it once then have the extra go to waste.
309 work OK for cast steel, providing you use a decent preheat (also post heat if you can) also 312 works well. Wouldnt bother using them for general steel welding though
I had to stick some stainless once. You're right when u say uphill doesn't work. What's a guy supposed to do in a situation where that's what you have to do? All my horizontal and flat welds turned out great but the vertical up was a nightmare.
Vertical stainless is tricky because the material heats up really fast compared to mild steel. Try using a small diameter rod like a 3/32 and making sure to let the material cool between passes. Another option is to have a amp control in hand and adjust the amperage up or down to compensate and prevent your weld from dripping down and forming "grapes "
Bob isn't this uphill problem what pulsing features in many welders are supposed to help with (among other things like work piece warping )? I hear alot of people saying that Pulse is a useless gimmick to sell welder units for a higher price.
On the aluminum rod preheat a little. Not to much it work better. The heat spreads fast 7018 would still weld fine on SS. S6 wire feed works fine too. As far as strength goes. Procedures are for " procedures "
In the process of heat treatment after some cycle of quenching process why welding break from MS plate. Weld stick on the SS material Plz Sir provide me solution
id like to know how you weld hardened steel to mild steel with a mig welder ?flux cored? without gas Thanks in my problem is welding thin 1.5mm mild steel hollow rod to a hardened gear 3.5mm thick with a mig welder without gas the gear will have about 1hp of electric motor load or 1000watt 3000rpm max i barely have 5-10 minute of experience T_T Thanks for any help
Spatter is mostly determined by the type of rod without getting into machine settings. E6010, E6011 type rods are a spark shower. E6013, E7014, E7018 type rods are pretty smooth with way less spatter.
I've done this in year's gone by and I have had the flux ping off in my face as it started to cool. Not nice when it goes down your shirt. Nice looking weld.
Bob you helped me through Tulsa Welding in Houston and you still helping me after school. Thanks a lot Bob. Keep up the good work.
tf its a tulsa in houston 😭
what happens if you weld with a stick intended for carbon steel or a stainless stick? will that still weld carbon steel and stainless steel?
6:08 "That's a _large_ no-no" 😂 I'm stealing that saying and using that. It cracked me up.
Also this video was really helpful, thanks Bob and crew!
Great information. Nice weld, I love your videos Bob. Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge.
Beautiful work Bob .
5:15 - That's some smooth Stick. Always keep the same angle, like it was on a Turntable.
Its dreadful he just ran the rod around the joint with the rod touching the metal zero penetration
@@jacobj6376 I would have used more amperage, but I think we can see at 3:16 that he had some penetration; also he said that it was his first time.
If I see crap I vote down, and don't comment because they block you; there's so many worse welds to criticize (even on well known channels), I think we need to wait to see where this ends up after some practice.
It's easy to find far worse than this.
Thanks for the concerns about the smoke plume and the risks. I'm mindful and aware of the hazards and we use vents in our shop. However it messes with the audio while filming so I held my breath? Kinda? We should have explained that in the introduction but failed to. Thanks for pointing it out. Good discussion for other videos.
Ha! Ya right, hold your breath. I say the same thing every time I go to weld on some nasty galvanized...holding your breath is a horrible idea!!! I like your humor Bob. I like to put the fan behind me if I can so it's just keeping fresh air flowing through my hood and the nasties out of my nostrils.
How about just using a fan to blow the smoke away. That is unless gas is involved, then just put the fan on super low away from your face.
Whenever I stick weld with my everlast welder I try to have two fans going. One behind me to bring fresh air in and another in front drawing the smoke away. Where I weld unless I do this the smoke just churns and comes back around to where I am.
I use a vent in my shop and I just bought a ventilator mask to wear to keep some of the other stuff out of my lungs. They're bad enough thanks to my grandfather smoking like a chimney next to me as I grew up. Plus, my vent kinda fell out of the ceiling the other week and I'm not sure that the repair job they did was very good.
+Bob Moffatt - For the purposes of recording a Video with good Audio try a conventional Home Fan (like a Pedestal Oscillating Fan, set not to oscillate) placed ~15 feet away.
It's enough to push the smoke away without wrecking the Audio.
Breath holding or uncomfortable positions affect the quality.
Others: Don't substitute a cheap Fan for proper Equipment (with a Filter).
YT,
Rob
It is so nice to see a welding teacher that knows what he is doing. I go to a technical college in Georgia and it is a joke. Wish I lived in Kansas would love to work with someone with so much knowledge.
Last year I had an instructor that couldn't weld a straight stick bead
Which one?
A little late finding you but your information is right on time, I just got a small 20 gal. stainless tank from a friend and wanted to make a shop stove heater with it, not being sure if I could weld a carbon steel exhaust pipe on it I searched for information about it, thank you for this video, it answered my questions
Quality teacher right there. Very good.
Thanks for this video Bob! I’m looking to weld a 1” stainless plate on the head of a custom made post driver that is made from steel to strengthen it against warping. I found this helpful!
Master welder. Best SMAW welds I ever seen.
i would like to see a welding fumes extractor. Chromium in the rod cause cancer. As a old experimented welder, you must have to be an exemple for all of us. thanks for all your videos.
man I was thinking the same as I watch the fumes hit the mask. .. nice weld doe.
That looks really neat!!! After many years of just Tig welding stainless I got a tiny stick-tig welder and been trying out stick welding with stainless 3/32 rod with 308L-16 and soon will try 309L,.. it's really cool to be able to put together different alloys and that the visual outcome is nice and smooth. Dragging the puddle seems to work way better than what I was trying by pushing it (used to the Tig style). Thank you so much for the vid!!!!!
Yea I’m also used to the TIG and it’s surprising how nice weld he has gotten in the end
Just some added info that I found while researching what arc rods were needed to weld 316 to carbon steel. Some 308L applications may be substituted with 309L filler metal, but 316L or 316 applications generally require molybdenum and 309L contains no molybdenum. E309LMo-16 has a nominal composition (wt.-%) of 23.5 Cr, 13 Ni, a maximum allowable carbon content of 0.04, and a small addition of molybdenum. So if you are welding 316 to carbon steel you need to buy E309LMO.16 welding rods.
Hello Mr Solar Function, thank you for this information. It is helpful to my sense of self to have someone explain that when combining different materials an intermediary, molybdenum, is introduced to buffer and combine them.
David Lixenberg
@@davidlixenberg5999 Welcome David........ Mark
Good instruction and advice, Thanks Bob
I would like to see any restaurant equipment welded up. Like table or sink? Not sure what kind of stainless most use. But, I want to weld a table at work.
Yup was looking for a cheap n quick way to patch cattle waterers where the heater electrode underneath had oxidized and cracked the stainless bowl, just need to put in 6" square patches to close out the winter season.
Nice thanks for the tips, I’m self taught stick welder and can lay some pretty good welds but very ignorant of correct methods. I actually like stainless except for the restart ! I did a stainless to carbon on a load bearing item on my land cruiser lasted for a long time but cracked and broke in the middle of Oz, found a real welder who said the weld looked ok but likely I used the wrong alloy, it was a stainless rod but anyway thanks heaps
looking at this video considering doing similar on my Landcruiser welding a steel dump pipe to my stainless vband :D saw your comment and thought similar situation!
I’m going to weld stainless to steel (exhaust) and this video is very helpful.
Nice job. I have to weld some stainless to mild steel so very helpful
Great video
Excellent.
You make that look easy!
It is easy, easier than a carbon steel
Can you do a video on how to (properly) stick welding on galvanized (sheet) steel?
Always have the answers I'm looking for, thank you
Thanks, this was very useful.
I wish there were more master welders like BoB as welding instructors
Still the master!!!!
Nice demo. Being retired from the heavy equip repair trade all my life I have almost from day one of welding used my Bernard twist lock holder on a lighter 10' whip line that can be attached to the main heavier welding cable very quickly. More maneuverability, less weight fatigue and you can bend the rod in position with a better grip. Even have a regular small clamp style whip for ease of welding. Never see any weld videos showing this but I know most everyone in the field has one. Any thoughts? May make a good option to show to new welders. Thanks Ed K. Cleve. Oh.
Eddie Kawecki
Thank you!
Best welder. Awesome.
Nice weld again sir. When I see stick welds in the field without the slag removed, I can't resist knocking the slag off to see how the welds are :)
Very good!
Serious skill
Thanks making this video.
what type of gas do you recommend for stick with stainless steel?
Thanks for the video.
Have not found any videos on RUclips for doing 309 stick electrode to carbon pipe on a 6G position for fill and cap. Only 309 tig for root and hot pass. Could this be a future video please🤗
Great Video, Thanks
-thank you so much!
What polarity is used for this electrode?
I LOVE WATCHING YOUR VIDS IM 58 I HAVE 3 WELDERS AND WISH I COULD GOTO SCHOOL TO LEARN BETTER WELDING HABITS AND TECHNEQUES
Hello, I would like to ask you a question. Which coated electrode should I use to weld a 4140 steel torsional shaft bonded to a 1045 steel plate? Thanks for your suggestion.
I'm pretty new to stick, so forgive my ignorance. Are these 300 series sticks the ones that come in 5-packs,as at Tractor Supply? I was gifted some tig rods in a 5-pack, & I see these 300-series ones in 5-packs, too. I need some, but want to make sure I'm not buying tig rods. Thanks for any feedback.
Thank you for the video sir, it helps me a lot
Hello Mr. Moffet love your show, I do alot of Tig welding on titanium I love the way it runs, pools and looks I thought it would be neat if you did a show on titanium. technique, proper shielding gas etc. look forward to new episodes thanks for all the well prepared information and tips.
Tyler smith, Oh.
Super good vid. Thanks a lot!!!
Awesome video! Is 309 good for stainless to stainless?
Good video. What kind of stainless rod would you use if you had to verticle weld? I have a Welder who asked if I wanted to have him weld stainless to mild steel in my outside boiler. Crap steel in this boiler, I have had it welded over 10 times since 2000. Needs it again, thinking about replacing the whole back wall and chimney section.
Beautiful!
A master at work, makes it looks so easy, wish mine looks half as good, great tip on the rod type to use, cheers
Lets say i wanted to do this in a tig weld setting what kind of shielding gas would be best?
Bob I really appreciate your skill set and teaching style. Yu touch on a lot of things I totally would agree with, such as not banging the slag off to avoid injury AND to avoid irritating the instructor lol!! My question and youtube research lately has been regarding a stick welder I acquired recently. It is a small "FORNEY" 100 amp ac stick welder. So Ive been wanting to know what its capabilities are because I dont know if its me or the machine, but Im practicing with small 1/16" 7014 rods and the only thing I can do is lay a straight line on flat steel. Haven't been able to do a fillet or even weld two pieces of steel together! I just want to ask you- is it easier to run larger 3/32 diameter rods and what kind of material would be possible? I also tried to weld to large chrome vanadium 1/2" drive sockets together and that was a nightmare. The welds were not sticking... Could you make a video of you welding with a cheap ac buzz box welder showing what they are capable of? Or could someone point me to a similar video? Thankyou..
Which welding rod to be used?
excellent
Do you think that a 316 rod would be ok with this please
Would I do this for welding exhaust? I have V bands to mild steel exhaust I need to do? What settings would I use on the welder?
Stick welding stainless or exotic metal like inconel and hasteloy is some of the most challenging of processes. There is no forgiveness. Any various in manipulation will be seen in the bead. It is very easy is to trap slag. Watch that slag. It is super hot and will make a nasty burn which can last months. If you run vertical up, dissimilar welds like to reject the filler metal and spit it back at you. I experienced this while stick welding cast stainless clips to carbon tubes with inconel. MIG downhand seemed to work the best for this dissimilar combination. The clips were designed to snap instead of ripping a hole in the wall of the tube. It was in the reheat bundles of a 1350 megawatt boiler.
Thank you for creating these films for us. What I'm missing are the following: a word that explains the why; why was it necessary to bind a stainless steel plate to a carbon steel pipe?
I don't know what carbon steel is. The definition of steel is elemental iron combined with some percent of elemental carbon at the foundry, and stainless steel has some percent of elemental chromium added to this also at the foundry.
Drawings would be helpful. I can't see what's happening behind the glare of the welding flame. A drawing that explained the dimes pattern and how it may be achieved.
Thank you for what you are creating for us.
David Lixenberg
Informative video, and pretty weld! Would you use 312 Plus (Hobart, for example) on a project such as this?
Was this rod ran on D.C straight or reverse polarity, or just A.C. current ?
Reverse
309 L 16 is to weld stainless to black iron laid 33 lbs of rod in a vertical up position in a digest or in espanola
Been following you for a few years. Luv your work. Are you actually dragging the electrode along the SS plate. I can only wish my pipe welds were as smooth as that.
Stainless can be cut off using a 5/32 7018 welding rod with the welder cranked right up. Be warned.... BIG clouds of noxious black fumes. It gives a very rough cut , but it works if you are stuck with no other options.
Hola Which is the best inverter welding machine
Do u mean 309L-16 ..?
Is there any other electrode to weld MS to SS material ..??
You did stick because of the question, but if one were welding the objects you chose would stick be the best choice? I sort of think so but am not sure. TIG would be my next choice and MIG (if one can get 308) last unless one has a high amperage welder. Not sure if a 210A mig would get critical penetration.
Thank you! This was concise and to the point. Very helpful as I have a massive quantity of stainless to weld to carbon. On a related note, any idea of the composition of railroad rails circa 1940s? Stainless plate getting welded to the bottom of them. (Not my call). Thanks again.
Well done. Good video. Always wear safety glasses. Stainless is dangerous. After cooling a while, the very hot slag and even the little varnish spots suddenly pop and fly off. Lots of surprise burns when you weld stainless steel.
hi Bob, great demonstration ! i like running stainless stick it is always fun to test your skills.
could you touch on stainless stick root on plate or pipe. I've talked to fielders about techniques , using high amps and putting in a stack of dimes with the stop and go method. same as i use for 3/32 316 rod vertical weld for example. also he was using sodel electrodes never seen them down here in new mexico.
best regards
mikerodwelds
I'm currently trying to learn aluminium stick welding could you give and pointers. I know it's far from an ideal way to weld aluminium but if it's doable I'll try and learn it. Lots of thanks for the grate videos keep them up
josh starling your timing is good. that's on the list for next week.
Weld.com great to hear that. I knew one fella who could do a decent stick aluminum weld, but my results have been mediocre at best. Do have a TIG and a spool gun bug sometimes SMAW is needed
Hey Bob, when you are using the esab rebel are you plugged into the 110 outlet or the 220 outlet? I've been a little skeptical about stick. Does the background color on the screen have anything to do with what Outlet you should plug it into or is that just the color it is.
That is the color. We've shot videos on both 110 and 230 volts. I notice very little difference while plugged into either one.
...I've done a bit of stuff for food processing...any carbon to stainless was always 309 flux-core with C02 shield......1/8" rod is about right for stainless...it doesn't like high current.
Thats exactly what I wanted to see. Apparently finding an answer is non existent, refers to tig or mig only. I have the lotos tig 200ACDC, great machine by the way, which can tig or stick weld, but i ran out of fillers, etc & by the time I order materials & they get shipped to NY during this whole corona virus thing, it can be a month or more. So i wanted to see stick welding these two, & here you go. Thank you
What if you don’t want the stainless to warp?
Any downhill advice?
Yeah, dont put the gearbox in neutral and dont overheat your brakes..!
Looks like you could've gone a bit hotter, but that's a good test for that machine at 100 amps. What's the max it will run on 115v? I wonder how many 1/8" rods you can run at 100 amps before you hit the duty cycle on that esab. What brand rod did you run. I actually really like the 309 stainless for a lot of reasons outside of carbon to stainless. That heavy slag will dang sure stick to your skin! Bob, you need a little box fan to blow that nasty plume of welding fumes away from your mug, especially with stainless. Hexavalent chromium brother.
I could've had more than a 100 amps but I felt with such a small demo part it would lose color if heated to much. Thanks for noticing. As for the duty cycle on this machine, I'll bet I could run all day at 100 amps with few problems. Great idea for a video, thanks for the comment. B
No one could have explained and demostrate any better on how to weld with the 309 rod as this man did.
Thanks ypu very much!!!
Bob do you offer cwi at cowley?
Not currently. There is one within the state of Kansas in Hutchinson.
Thanks Bob. Merry Christmas to you and yours!
Can you please do a video of doing 308 and 309 rod in vertical position.
You seem to like that Rebal a lot I was considering it. My only worry is duty cycle- do you feel it’s duty cycle is sufficient? Looks like it puts down quality welds!
I know zilch about everything said here.
What is duty cycle ? Is the frequency of the mains supply ? Does it matter whether a welding machine operates off of ac or has an inverter or operates off of a dc supply ?
David Lixenberg
@@davidlixenberg5999 Duty cycle is the amount of welding time before the machine gets to hot and cuts out use to happen a lot with older air cooled fanless machines but the new inverter fan cooled seem to do most jobs round the house.
I asked the hardware store for some rods to weld stainless steel hinges to mild steel and they gave me 208l. I think they gave me the wrong rods. Will it still weld ok guys? I am a relative newby.
Can you start to do out of position with this? I just got a job with a contractor that uses 309 stick rod
please bring your vacuum exhaust close(fumes) to your project, my father inlay acquired Lymphnode cancer from no exhaust vac system close enough to his welding table.
Is there a rod that i can use on this that works other things? Like general steel welding. Or cast steel.
Rather not just use it once then have the extra go to waste.
309 work OK for cast steel, providing you use a decent preheat (also post heat if you can) also 312 works well.
Wouldnt bother using them for general steel welding though
Sir plz make the one rapater steel mill
The man the myth the legend bob moffet
I had to stick some stainless once. You're right when u say uphill doesn't work. What's a guy supposed to do in a situation where that's what you have to do? All my horizontal and flat welds turned out great but the vertical up was a nightmare.
Depends on the rod brand in my experience. Some will run really good out-of -position.
Bob Moffatt thanks
Vertical stainless is tricky because the material heats up really fast compared to mild steel. Try using a small diameter rod like a 3/32 and making sure to let the material cool between passes. Another option is to have a amp control in hand and adjust the amperage up or down to compensate and prevent your weld from dripping down and forming "grapes "
Bob isn't this uphill problem what pulsing features in many welders are supposed to help with (among other things like work piece warping )? I hear alot of people saying that Pulse is a useless gimmick to sell welder units for a higher price.
This pulsing was from erratic wire feeding. Pulse wire feed settings on the machine settings are very beneficial.
On the aluminum rod preheat a little. Not to much it work better. The heat spreads fast
7018 would still weld fine on SS. S6 wire feed works fine too. As far as strength goes. Procedures are for " procedures "
KIM COVENEY sure those work well, until you have a few hot/cold cycles and the welds crack from the stainless heating and cooling faster than the weld
In the process of heat treatment after some cycle of quenching process why welding break from MS plate.
Weld stick on the SS material
Plz Sir provide me solution
Ok, very tintersting on Carbon to Stainless !
But what about Stainless to Carbon?
Is there a practical way to use the stick process for stainless to cast iron? I'd like to see it, if there is one..
Have done that quite a bit!! Nickel 55 works great!!
im a lefty like you. The flu< coating on the rods i used in the pulp and paper indusrty were terrible
Those beads though.. Damn, look nice
beautiful weld😂
id like to know how you weld hardened steel to mild steel with a mig welder ?flux cored? without gas Thanks
in my problem is welding thin 1.5mm mild steel hollow rod to a hardened gear 3.5mm thick with a mig welder without gas
the gear will have about 1hp of electric motor load or 1000watt 3000rpm max
i barely have 5-10 minute of experience T_T
Thanks for any help
Can someone explain the splater? During some welds the splatter looks like a shower and on some it's really light. Thanks in advance.
Spatter is mostly determined by the type of rod without getting into machine settings. E6010, E6011 type rods are a spark shower. E6013, E7014, E7018 type rods are pretty smooth with way less spatter.
Bob Moffatt 6010 don't spark much when it's jammed in the pipe. I've actually had my autoshade turn off on root passes before
+chris jones Thank you Gents.
Thanks for sharing/posting, I m not to much of a welder but that bead was "pretty".
Very informative, thanks!
Couple questions:
Gas mix?
What is the compositional difference between 308 and 309?
I've done this in year's gone by and I have had the flux ping off in my face as it started to cool. Not nice when it goes down your shirt. Nice looking weld.
I've had it happen too and end up in my belt line. TWICE ! Thanks Keith.