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TGS, THE NEW GRAPHICS WITH INFO LOOK SO GOOD, also thank you for putting characters in a tier list that synergize well with chasca, I noticed that I have most of the characters that work well with her and I was concerned before pulling her that I might not have the best teammates for her, but with this info and me already wanting her a lot, I'm feeling confident that I'm making a well informed decision to pull her! Last step is to try her trial for me just to make sure but this video helped out a ton
One more thing about Zhongli is, that he has by far the strongest geo shield breaking capabilities. They just melt. They have pushed elemental shields in abyss more and more and if there are geo shields he straight up outperforms Xilonen in my experience.
@@AlwaysThirstys His burst applies massive 4U geo, and he has special passive upon E cast that additionally saps nearby geo shields beyond just the pillar app. If you want geo shields broken ASAP he is him.
He also has the thiccest shield (when you play characters who cannot be healed or dislike to be staggered) and the best in removing geo shields (when abyss has geo shield enemies).
This is what people miss,even if the game is easy the comfort of having a shield and turning off your brain for an entire side is just so satisfying and unmatched,i unironically put him above every support except the top 5- Its literally furina>xilonen>kazuha>nahida>yelan>zhongli for me just because of the comfort. Call me skill issue or whatever it's just so fun and something no other character provides
nice format but I would argue if you can already easily clear then, chasca and lyney can be pretty cool too as Lyney introduces a challenge in game, and Chasca is op in exploration and having unique play style.
personally i would say for the Zhongli teammates section , for most players Hu Tao shouldn't be in "doesnt need a shield" but "really likes a shield". especially if someone only has her at c0. the average player just really likes the Hu Tao+Zhongli combo and it has been a staple pairing for years
@quiet_walker19 I got the perfect jean healing to not overheal hu tao but heal other teammates enough to max out furina's buff, its not that hard actually,and I said double hydro meaning there's another hydro on the team either xinque or yelan. And that's the best team I could find for hu tao atleast in my account.
wow even Jamie is calling out the other part but not the neuvilette D-riding. I don't understand the whole Neuvilette D-riding among TCs when he clearly doesn't perform even good until u have some of the staple teammates like either furina or Kazuha or his weapon or the BP weapon which is not really f2p or xilonen or multiple of these, This is just generating fomo among people just like Alhaitham in hyperbloom or Hu Tao in double hydro, instead of saying any objective truth or helping people
Going for Lyney c1 because I play him as often as I breathe air and being able to speedrun domains and abyss chambers seems hella fun (ps I already have Aqua Simulacra AND Chasca's bow is mid so I'm not touching the weapon banner with a ten foot pole)
Lol, you left half the characters off the list for Zhongli. For everyone who spares a thought to characters who aren't a main dps: do you want to be interrupted when you are doing your setup? If your answer is no, then Zhongli is great for you. If you have ever in your life switched into fischl and got smacked... it feels pretty crappy. Zhongli removes that completely from happening. Even if you have a main dps who doesn't need it as much, getting through the setup and getting your dps going to the point where they no longer need the shield all without interruption is worth it.
You are counting elemental shields as a bonus for chasca, but in the last combat event we have seen the new enemies that have a new type lf shield that breaks easly to hits from nightsoul state, and chasca seems to be really good for these new enemies and possibly future abyss.
Clorinde should be in the really likes a shielder category. She doesn’t get any extra resistance to interruption from her at C0/C1, she has a short DPS window and any interruption is a big DPS loss for her. She can easily survive without a shielder, but she will usually perform better with one.
After seeing Mavuika’s kit, it just strengthened my resolve to pull for Neuvillette 😂 Neuvillette C2, and I don’t even need it I just wanna pull for cons because he’s my favorite lmao
Hello Fellow hydro dragon enjoyer. Also Mavuika seems to be turbo broken as of right now for a dps, dunno if she is Neuvi level since she still has a few restrictions that he doesn’t have, however her dps is still so ridiculous I HEAVILY doubt she doesnt get nerfed it just doesnt make sense for her to be an upgrade over every current pyro unit whether dps, yes even Arle, or support (minus bennet) even if she is the archon.
@@Radiant450 her DPS potential at F2P or dolphin level seems out damage every single rooster in the game even mualani but with extreme restrictions towards her teammate (she really NEED xilonen) also her playstyle can be clunky. Still Neuvilette is one of the best if not the best DPS in the game bro just have full package in his kit it's unfair
Neuvillette for when you dont wanna play the game, zhongli for when you dont wanna try while playing the game lol combine either of em with a furina or kazuha an you'll never have to pull for anyone again
I disagree with Kinich not needing a shield he can get interrupted while spinning. His best supports are Thoma and Dehya not only for the pyro application but also the comfort.
My recommendation: Zhongli- for shielding Neuvillet- for damage Chaska-damage Lyney-damage Neuvillet is the best option 1: you can choose any shield character examples: kirara-zhongli-diona-lyla-Noelle 2:freeze exists 3: great synergy with furina 4: he makes me we- I mean he makes the enemies wet 5: easy reaction options So yeah...❤️
Idk something about this banner review feels head and shoulders greater what I've already seen out there, amazing work. Usually you'd have to watch multiple account reviews to figure out whether they are good on your account, not just good in general Going through team building options on a more individual basis gives me a better idea where to evaluate them for my account without reading every talent description or hours of analysis to figure out whether the characters I already have can even work. Usually its assumed you have all the famous meta teams built up/available so when I don't have the best teams I tend to switch off, and miss hidden potential as I fix my account Since usually floor 12 can have element checks that can make you deviate from your strongest teams, knowing how to build a team around them I think is more valuable than knowing what makes biggest number, at least until I have enough characters built to always have 2 strong teams regardless of the abyss cycle. Much appreciated attention to detail 🙏🏿
I think its good point to have that Citali buffs Chasca and she doesnt need have her constelation, and could be played with benett/furina and Citali without losing her passive with playing like with Kazuha/Xilonen
I have Kazuha and Xilonen and I currently cannot clear Floor 12 of the Abyss, so I'm feeling like Neuvilette might be the best option here. Shame about Zhongli, as I love his character and his unbreakable shields sound great... Just need Hoyo not to rerun Furina until 5.4 or later and I'm golden (don't have her either, and don't really want the stress of trying to get Mauvuika and Furina in the same patch)
6:48 Yae: I am not worth a mention I guess Seriously, why is Yae not even mentioned? I want to know if she is really worse than a C1 Fischl (C0 Yae), or how much better a C6 Fischl is(if it warrant pulling for her C6)
I play yae, feel like wanna answer this question. C1 Fischl definitely not better than Yae but at c6 Fischl I think she kinda better, not in term of damage but her field time as a support. She's closed the damage gap than at c0 with less field time. But this is only as a support comparison, because Yae can be played as a dps too.
If Fischl is C6 and you're playing a character that allows for her A4 to trigger (doesn't work with spread) then she is better than C0 Miko. Both are worth having imo. I'd say it also depends on how heavy you invest into your Miko and your playstyle. Her best constellations are C6 followed by C3, which improve her personal damage and electro application. I'd prefer Miko over Fischl if you don't have at least C3.
Its Neuvilette or bust. I am personally very conflicted between skipping for Mavuika or getting him. Maybe i will wait for some leaks to see if Mavuika is worth it for my account. I hope pyro traveler is enough of an upgrade for Kinich teams. Especially if they give an attack buff thats not in a circle like bennets if thats true. I have low pity i will pull for Ororon on Lyney banner and hope he doesnt surprise me. But he would be ok to have
I say wait first and see where her kit lands at the end of the beta, because no way her current form is what goes live she is way too strong. Neuvi is still Neuvi, easiest to use while also having some of the best dps in the game, flawless character at C1.
I was hoping Lynette, or faruzan were going to get rerun on the banner but instead my disappointment was immeasurable when I saw Barbara and sucrose. Skip I'll wait til neuvilette
My 5-stars are Xilonen, Furina, and Nahida. For Xilonen and Furina, I'll put them in a Mavuika team (Mav, Xilonen, Furina, Bennett). For Nahida, I play Hyperbloom (Nahida, Kuki), and I’m planning to add Neuv to this team. Should I go for Neuv C1 or Zhongli? Before the Mavuika leak, I was planning to pull for Neuvillette C1 instead of Zhongli. But now that I know Mavuika best team needs Xilonen, I don’t have a spare support to shred resistance. Zhongli could fill that role for Neuvillette, so do you think I should pull for Zhongli instead of Neuvillette C1? So my 2nd team will be Nahida, Kuki, Neuv C0, Zhongli. WIll that work decently? I'll appreciate any help or reply!
I am so tired of the "investment" requirement with the Fontaine+ characters. I have been struggling to make Clorinde work in the abyss, and finally cleared the current one with her, C0 with R5 Finale of the Deep, but it took me so long, and I had to use C1 Furina and C0 Xilonen with her (and C1 Chevreuse).
I am beginner and have yelan and xilonen, nahida as 5 star and primordial jade spear as weapon so should I pull for go for nuvillete or arlecchino/mavuika, as i don't have any on field dps and have some wishes and capturing radiance in line(lost 3 50/50in line) am at end of sumeru
12:16 even though Itto doesn't strictly need the shield, I think his most comfy teams play Zhongli anyway. You really want a shield regardless for geo resonance to work. Gorou can pull in crystallize shields, but you can't play him if you're also playing Xilonen instead of Zhongli. You do still get crystallize shields if you play Xilonen double hydro, but it's less consistent, and Itto's energy requirements are a lot higher than on a traditional mono geo team. If your Xilonen is C2 and you can still slot in Gorou, then yeah she's obviously better for Itto. But at least from my personal experience with C0 Zhongli and Xilonen, mono geo still feels better than double hydro.
Imo it sounds like it’s just your builds, my double hydro team doesn’t struggle with energy at all, and if it ever does you just need to give Furina fav sword and you’re set. Personally I can’t go back to mono geo because double hydro feels much better to use.
You don't need Zhongli for that team. Sure if you want the entire team to be only archons for the sake of being only archons you can put him in there. Though his shield doesn't contribute much. Since Raiden, Nahida and Furina have auto attacking skills, meaning endless hyper blooms wherever the enemy goes. You could just stay away from the enemy and walk around. A better option for the archon team is Jean since she can max stack Furina's fanfare in a single click whilst also healing any damage you might've taken. However it wouldn't truly be an 'archon' team then. Even though Jean is like the de facto ruler of Mondstadt anyways ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
Oh, please speak about Neuvillette, I am far from being convinced he is great for an F2P player. How big is the level of investment into him so that he becomes really useful in the abyss? Is Ash-Graven Drinking Horn (free event weapon) good for him? Is C0 with C0 Zhongli and C0 Xilonen (no signatures!!!) enough to clear the abyss? I ask because you say "he does not need these characters" (13:52), and I know a lot of players who have Neuvillette and still struggle in the abyss with him.
You literally just have to level him up, get MH Artifacts and slap the Prototype Amber on him. Voila you have the most broken F2P DPS in the game Pair him up units like Fischl, Sucrose, and Diona and Spiral Abyss becomes easy as hell at least for his side.
I'm on a full sized screen right now, but I could imagine the text on the slides at 1:58 and 10:25 could be annoying to view on a phone while on the go
What I noticed in my case, as a player who loves max build my dpses, now I rarely use op character like neu, arle in exploration because enemies die so fast and makes thing feel a bit boring. And my world level is at max.
Skipping - I have teams that want other dps - my wish list right now just includes Arlecchino and Alhaitham for dps and Furina to round up my supports (I already have Kazuha and Xilonen, and Bennett and Xingqui)
pull ZL if you already have the skills to clear the abyss and you just want comfort in the game. pull neuvi if you dont have the skills to clear the abyss. pull chasca if you want ease in playing genshin for the whole year. easy traversal/exploration. pull lyney if you are into little boys with short shorts, otherwise skip.
@@adityadobhal8351 that's not the point im trying to make. say, you already have skills to clear the abyss consistently (45-60secs). if the team dps of your 3 units are enough to clear abyss, then having ZL as 4th unit will make it braindead easy. . on the other hand, if people without enough skill decided to get zhongli, they will still not be able to beat the abyss since in most cases ZL is a net loss in damage. edit: yeah youre right. it's actually about team dps, not skill. took me long to realize your saying what i acutally meant to say.
@@mikkunmikkichi3762 No problem brother. I actually like these kinds of civil arguments as it can often lead to insight to things even I do not know. But I have seen it many times on RUclips that people become toxic for no reason. Hope you have a great day.
That’s probably not enough info to go off of. Alhaitham is pretty team dependent, and how good c0r0 Neuv is can also depend on what buffers you have available. You can’t really compare two characters in a vacuum without team buffs - going from DMC to Nahida to c2 Nahida is a big difference for Alhaitham, for instance.
c0r0 neuv outpreforms I'm sorry. On his best team alhaitham does 35% of total damage according to his calcs and the team does 73k dmg. Neuv's best team does 95k dps at c0r0 and he does 68% of the teams damage. Even if alhaitham had raiden or mualani level cons he would still do worse.
My gut is telling me to pull chasca at anycost because she will work best with citlali and mavuika on the same team in future. No proof just a gut feeling
@@juggernaut6666 pyro traveler leaks say mobile bennett buff, or similar. ive heard 60% ATK that follows you. chasca will move and likely leave bennetts circle.
@@juggernaut6666 yeah Bennett is the inevitable and there's no escaping circle impact but maybe if by some godly luck I'm able to get c1 it will be Bennett mavuika and citlani one 1 team
Imo yes. He shreds dendro and electro resistance (and ofc his shield is stronger), which is a more impactful buff than anything Layla can do for that team. That said, you could also use someone like Kirara or Baizhu on 4p Instructor, and Tighnari’s CAs are so fast that he’s not too punishing to play shieldless imo (in which case double electro or a Furina team can be stronger), so idk if Zhongli is essential. He’s definitely a big upgrade over Layla, tho, and he’s my go to for most Tighnari teams when I’m playing casually and not in the mood to focus on dodging.
@@hyacynth2182 Alr have C3 Nahida, so I use her with him. Was thinking I should use Zhongli since he's one of the few chars that can shred dendro too (with Nahida). Then was thinking of using Yae/Fischl. Should I get Yae? I feel like her rots work better with Tighnari.
@@mugenhikage Yae is great with Tighnari, for sure. Imo his best team at the moment is Nahida Furina Kuki, quickswapping to spread Kuki’s healing out, but Tighnari Nahida Yae Zhongli is more comfortable and maybe his best shielded team.
If you actually have a life like a job or in studies who dont have time unlike these tryhards john lee is amazing he can garante to comfortably clear one side of the abyss no need to learn attack patterns and guids
I’d say yes. Wait until she’s at least in beta, right now we don’t even have numbers/scalings, just some general descriptions. Once her kit is up somewhere like Hakushin with full descriptions and scalings it’ll be easier to compare them.
Im still torn, who should i with first, c1 lyney or chasca ? I love lyney and i want to make him stronger, the weapon looks only promising if i get chasca.
Tbh Chasca’s weapon looks VERY good for Lyney, and his c1 is… okay? But nothing amazing. I’d go for the weapon banner if you want to buff Lyney, since even getting Chasca’s should imo be a bigger buff than his c1. Between Lyney c1 and Chasca c0 it’s hard to say. I’m also choosing between the two, since I like Lyney way more but new characters are more fun than a medium impact con. In your case I’d start with the weapon banner then see how you feel.
Conflicted between zhongli and neuvillette c1. Kinda feeling like I’ve made it this far (12-3 36 SA, Act 10 10 IT) with no shielder do I really need one lol
Well, I wanted Ororororon, and I got him on my second 10 pull, so yay! However I also got Chasca on that same 10 pull...yay I guess, I wasn't really looking for her... I should have left it there, but I wanted another Orororororon...and pulled again...Chasca's C1 🙄 I guess I have to build her properly now...
@@NeverSettleForMediocrity Even at level 40 she's been doing some decent damage, just keep the mouse button down and it just does charged shot after charged shot. Just gotta get more coinage, and kill some more of the flower thing...which Chasca does pretty easily.
Ororon may have issues without a hydro teammate, and electro + cryo is a weird combo for reactions. I might try replacing either Shenhe or Ororon with a hydro unit. It should work okay tho, it’s a soup team with buffs, hard to go wrong.
@@hyacynth2182 Which of the hydro units do you think would be a decent option? Using Xingqiu and Yelan require us to weave NAs to proc their burst, Chasca not doing any NA during her skill is kinda wasting their subdps dmg tbh
@@Kalavalsar Furina > Mona, mainly. Maybe TTDS/Tenacity Kokomi, since enabling better reactions (overvape or some melts vs superconduct) + Chasca and Ororon’s passives is decent even if her damage isn’t great. Burst Ayato and Sigewinne are okay too I guess, in a pinch.
She would be a side grade maybe a downgrade in comparison to Kazuha, and sucrose, because she doesn't provide and em bonus like the do. But I don't see why you can't with a nahida yae Miko, fishcl, team core.
What would the team look like…? If she has cons I guess you could run hydro electro dendro, but using a team slot on dendro is a bad idea at c0, and Chasca has no innate EM scaling or synergy with dendro reactions so she wouldn’t really benefit. The fact that she does mixed damage will also make it impossible to actually build around aggravate, since half the time she’ll be dealing hydro damage and won’t benefit from EM. She also doesn’t use normal attacks, which means you can’t use popular hydro enablers like Yelan and Xingqiu. Imo the best way to use her on a hyperbloom team is the same way you’d use hyperbloom Eula or Navia, as a random flex slot on a self-sufficient 3 person team. In other words, it’s a waste of her kit and only relevant if you need a team to carry her whether or not her damage is good.
3:38 awe i wish chevvy was here, her c6 gives chasca 60% pyro n electro dmg bonus as well as heals on skill to trigger the fontaine bows passive (shes basically a comfier bennett for overworld)
@@rerg6923Being anemo will only turn off Chev’s resistance shred, not her other buffs, so if she’s c6 you’d still get her atk% and dmg% buffs. Her res shred is arguably the best part of her kit (and very few people even have her c6) so I don’t think Chev was worth mentioning in the video, but she’s not *useless* outside of pure overload teams. If Bennett is busy, c6 Chev + Ororon + Furina or something wouldn’t be too bad, imo, for those lucky enough to have her c6.
@@hyacynth2182 You just lied, cheveruse loses her attack buff if the unit is not pyro or electro. Also her c6 gives ONLY pyro damage and electro damage boost, when you run chasca you have to use bennet therefore you lose dmg% bonus but also 1.33 bullets meaning you are losing most of your damage in exchange for an exlucisvely electro and pyro buff. Reason why this is bad is even if you add ororon you get a total of 60% dmg boost to three bullets but is you use mualani with ttds and the natlan support set you not only gain an extra bullet but you get 48% atk and 40% all dmg bonus. Literally a dps outpreforms CH EVERUSE C6 at being a support.
@@AlwaysThirstys You're right about her a4 only buffing atk% for pyro and electro characters, my bad, I always forget that detail. She'll still trigger it on teams with Chasca, but it won't buff Chasca. That said, note how I said "I don't think Chev was worth mentioning in the video," and that I wasn't arguing she was a good support for her, just not literally useless. You're right that her c6 still doesn't make her a great support for Chasca, but that doesn't contradict anything I said. Off meta teams exist even if they're worse than ideal ones, and I disagree that you "have" to use Bennett with Chasca.
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Sorry didn't have time to add calcs in this video. It's mostly all characters I've calculated in the past but I've been a bit short on time this time around, will be better next time
TGS, THE NEW GRAPHICS WITH INFO LOOK SO GOOD, also thank you for putting characters in a tier list that synergize well with chasca, I noticed that I have most of the characters that work well with her and I was concerned before pulling her that I might not have the best teammates for her, but with this info and me already wanting her a lot, I'm feeling confident that I'm making a well informed decision to pull her! Last step is to try her trial for me just to make sure but this video helped out a ton
weird to point out, but i’ve never seen someone refer to an infographic as a graphic with info no shade 😭 ig it’s the same thing tho
One more thing about Zhongli is, that he has by far the strongest geo shield breaking capabilities. They just melt. They have pushed elemental shields in abyss more and more and if there are geo shields he straight up outperforms Xilonen in my experience.
His geo Sheild breaking abilities are not the best. They are the same as albedo and chiori. Xilonen is bad due to her having no offeild.
@@AlwaysThirstys His burst applies massive 4U geo, and he has special passive upon E cast that additionally saps nearby geo shields beyond just the pillar app.
If you want geo shields broken ASAP he is him.
Not only geo shield. He eats pretty good amount of any elemental shield for character who apply no element
No geo character built. I just overload/plunge geo shields in abyss.
@@AlwaysThirstysYou don’t have Zhongli if you believe that. Even if what u said was true the difference is he does all application instantly.
Zhongli pull value is 10/10 if - You can't/don't want to dodge - You play on mobile and the game doesn't run smoothly - You hate stagger
citali
He also has the thiccest shield (when you play characters who cannot be healed or dislike to be staggered) and the best in removing geo shields (when abyss has geo shield enemies).
😂😮
This is what people miss,even if the game is easy the comfort of having a shield and turning off your brain for an entire side is just so satisfying and unmatched,i unironically put him above every support except the top 5-
Its literally furina>xilonen>kazuha>nahida>yelan>zhongli for me just because of the comfort. Call me skill issue or whatever it's just so fun and something no other character provides
Basically its a 10/10 if you don‘t like playing the game
nice format but I would argue if you can already easily clear then, chasca and lyney can be pretty cool too as Lyney introduces a challenge in game, and Chasca is op in exploration and having unique play style.
Now with rumors of Arlechchino rerunning next to Mavuika, we're all cooked
personally i would say for the Zhongli teammates section , for most players Hu Tao shouldn't be in "doesnt need a shield" but "really likes a shield". especially if someone only has her at c0. the average player just really likes the Hu Tao+Zhongli combo and it has been a staple pairing for years
I think most people now play hutao with furina double hydro and jean
@@shhh._Defintely not Jean LMAO
@@shhh._ so they are playing her wrong, it's not in her kit to heal her. Also, vapes with Furina are inconsistent
@quiet_walker19 I got the perfect jean healing to not overheal hu tao but heal other teammates enough to max out furina's buff, its not that hard actually,and I said double hydro meaning there's another hydro on the team either xinque or yelan. And that's the best team I could find for hu tao atleast in my account.
wow even Jamie is calling out the other part but not the neuvilette D-riding. I don't understand the whole Neuvilette D-riding among TCs when he clearly doesn't perform even good until u have some of the staple teammates like either furina or Kazuha or his weapon or the BP weapon which is not really f2p or xilonen or multiple of these,
This is just generating fomo among people just like Alhaitham in hyperbloom or Hu Tao in double hydro, instead of saying any objective truth or helping people
Going for Lyney c1 because I play him as often as I breathe air and being able to speedrun domains and abyss chambers seems hella fun (ps I already have Aqua Simulacra AND Chasca's bow is mid so I'm not touching the weapon banner with a ten foot pole)
Got it lmfao
if you like to speedrun just go for mualani lol
I really like the ranking system, and how it acknowledges that your overall account changes the value of a character.
Lol, you left half the characters off the list for Zhongli. For everyone who spares a thought to characters who aren't a main dps: do you want to be interrupted when you are doing your setup? If your answer is no, then Zhongli is great for you. If you have ever in your life switched into fischl and got smacked... it feels pretty crappy. Zhongli removes that completely from happening. Even if you have a main dps who doesn't need it as much, getting through the setup and getting your dps going to the point where they no longer need the shield all without interruption is worth it.
Zhongli and Neuvillette are both 10/10 pulls.
You are counting elemental shields as a bonus for chasca, but in the last combat event we have seen the new enemies that have a new type lf shield that breaks easly to hits from nightsoul state, and chasca seems to be really good for these new enemies and possibly future abyss.
Clorinde should be in the really likes a shielder category. She doesn’t get any extra resistance to interruption from her at C0/C1, she has a short DPS window and any interruption is a big DPS loss for her.
She can easily survive without a shielder, but she will usually perform better with one.
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I'm gonna pull Chaska Because I want to fly around and I don't like my stepson.
She even wears a hat, lmao!
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If that's the only reason you might want to wait, cause Mauvika can fly as well
@@hassanmahdi5521 momi Mavuika will come home too.
I’m waiting to see Mavuika’s exploration ability too, but I doubt she will fly as efficiently as Chasca with that motorbike.
After seeing Mavuika’s kit, it just strengthened my resolve to pull for Neuvillette 😂
Neuvillette C2, and I don’t even need it I just wanna pull for cons because he’s my favorite lmao
Hello Fellow hydro dragon enjoyer.
Also Mavuika seems to be turbo broken as of right now for a dps, dunno if she is Neuvi level since she still has a few restrictions that he doesn’t have, however her dps is still so ridiculous I HEAVILY doubt she doesnt get nerfed it just doesnt make sense for her to be an upgrade over every current pyro unit whether dps, yes even Arle, or support (minus bennet) even if she is the archon.
@@Radiant450 her DPS potential at F2P or dolphin level seems out damage every single rooster in the game even mualani but with extreme restrictions towards her teammate (she really NEED xilonen) also her playstyle can be clunky. Still Neuvilette is one of the best if not the best DPS in the game bro just have full package in his kit it's unfair
i just want ororon 😭
Go for chascas banner then
@@68915403That's a win/win! I expect Ororon C6 pulling for Chasca constellations.
I GOT HIM YES BITCHES
Neuvillette for when you dont wanna play the game, zhongli for when you dont wanna try while playing the game lol combine either of em with a furina or kazuha an you'll never have to pull for anyone again
having both of them actually allows me to pull and build anyone i like even sht characters, because they can just carry lol
I disagree with Kinich not needing a shield he can get interrupted while spinning. His best supports are Thoma and Dehya not only for the pyro application but also the comfort.
Love the system to analyze pull value, nice idea!!
My recommendation:
Zhongli- for shielding
Neuvillet- for damage
Chaska-damage
Lyney-damage
Neuvillet is the best option
1: you can choose any shield character examples: kirara-zhongli-diona-lyla-Noelle
2:freeze exists
3: great synergy with furina
4: he makes me we- I mean he makes the enemies wet
5: easy reaction options
So yeah...❤️
Like before even starting the video.
I really like the new format mister TGS.
Idk something about this banner review feels head and shoulders greater what I've already seen out there, amazing work. Usually you'd have to watch multiple account reviews to figure out whether they are good on your account, not just good in general
Going through team building options on a more individual basis gives me a better idea where to evaluate them for my account without reading every talent description or hours of analysis to figure out whether the characters I already have can even work. Usually its assumed you have all the famous meta teams built up/available so when I don't have the best teams I tend to switch off, and miss hidden potential as I fix my account
Since usually floor 12 can have element checks that can make you deviate from your strongest teams, knowing how to build a team around them I think is more valuable than knowing what makes biggest number, at least until I have enough characters built to always have 2 strong teams regardless of the abyss cycle.
Much appreciated attention to detail 🙏🏿
Neuvilette is unironically the best pick this time around
As he always has been 🗿cuz he's Chadvillet
I don't want any of the four 5 stars. I only want a C0 Ororon but it's not worth risking my guarantee for him.
This set up is soo much goodd keep it up for the time being plss
Really love this new format!
I think its good point to have that Citali buffs Chasca and she doesnt need have her constelation, and could be played with benett/furina and Citali without losing her passive with playing like with Kazuha/Xilonen
waiting for 5.3 beta...i need to see mavuika's buffing capabilities before pulling 😭😭
Love the format! Excellent, consider incorporating theatre value
Chasca: anemo dps...f2p teams: xiangling bennet xinqui..artifact set unknown
Lyney: Pyro dps...f2p team:xiangling bennet sucrose...artifact set marachiseu hunter
Geo da- I mean zhongli: geo support/sub dps...f2p team:any team..artifacts umm...I forgot
He makes me we- I mean neuvillet: hydro dps...f2p team: bennet xiangling sucrose...artifact set: maruchose hunter
Pull value presentation and different levels is very nice. I like it a lot
Chasca is coming home❤
I have Kazuha and Xilonen and I currently cannot clear Floor 12 of the Abyss, so I'm feeling like Neuvilette might be the best option here. Shame about Zhongli, as I love his character and his unbreakable shields sound great...
Just need Hoyo not to rerun Furina until 5.4 or later and I'm golden (don't have her either, and don't really want the stress of trying to get Mauvuika and Furina in the same patch)
Wait for 5.3 announcement and mavuika's kit then pull
the different categories for lyney made me burst 😭.
i will look forward to these videos just to see these categories.
6:48 Yae: I am not worth a mention I guess
Seriously, why is Yae not even mentioned? I want to know if she is really worse than a C1 Fischl (C0 Yae), or how much better a C6 Fischl is(if it warrant pulling for her C6)
I play yae, feel like wanna answer this question. C1 Fischl definitely not better than Yae but at c6 Fischl I think she kinda better, not in term of damage but her field time as a support. She's closed the damage gap than at c0 with less field time. But this is only as a support comparison, because Yae can be played as a dps too.
If Fischl is C6 and you're playing a character that allows for her A4 to trigger (doesn't work with spread) then she is better than C0 Miko. Both are worth having imo. I'd say it also depends on how heavy you invest into your Miko and your playstyle.
Her best constellations are C6 followed by C3, which improve her personal damage and electro application. I'd prefer Miko over Fischl if you don't have at least C3.
Its Neuvilette or bust. I am personally very conflicted between skipping for Mavuika or getting him. Maybe i will wait for some leaks to see if Mavuika is worth it for my account. I hope pyro traveler is enough of an upgrade for Kinich teams. Especially if they give an attack buff thats not in a circle like bennets if thats true. I have low pity i will pull for Ororon on Lyney banner and hope he doesnt surprise me. But he would be ok to have
Pull Neuvi, Mavuika kit seems disappointing.
I say wait first and see where her kit lands at the end of the beta, because no way her current form is what goes live she is way too strong.
Neuvi is still Neuvi, easiest to use while also having some of the best dps in the game, flawless character at C1.
Pulling for Chasca constellations and Rs until the primos run out. 🎉
Good luck!
Pulls disposition:
40% Neuvi
30% Zhongli
15% Chasca
15% Lynney
Tell me how Neuvi C0R0 is a 10/10 without his premium supports? My man is crazy, full of bias
Neuvillete getting 10/10 everywhere is so funny and true 😂😂
I was hoping Lynette, or faruzan were going to get rerun on the banner but instead my disappointment was immeasurable when I saw Barbara and sucrose. Skip I'll wait til neuvilette
I was opposite. I have C3 Barb and C2 Sucrose. 160 wishes before a guarantee, so I'll take any 4 stars from the banner
Nice presentation, informative and intuitive
My 5-stars are Xilonen, Furina, and Nahida. For Xilonen and Furina, I'll put them in a Mavuika team (Mav, Xilonen, Furina, Bennett).
For Nahida, I play Hyperbloom (Nahida, Kuki), and I’m planning to add Neuv to this team. Should I go for Neuv C1 or Zhongli?
Before the Mavuika leak, I was planning to pull for Neuvillette C1 instead of Zhongli.
But now that I know Mavuika best team needs Xilonen, I don’t have a spare support to shred resistance.
Zhongli could fill that role for Neuvillette, so do you think I should pull for Zhongli instead of Neuvillette C1? So my 2nd team will be Nahida, Kuki, Neuv C0, Zhongli. WIll that work decently?
I'll appreciate any help or reply!
I am so tired of the "investment" requirement with the Fontaine+ characters. I have been struggling to make Clorinde work in the abyss, and finally cleared the current one with her, C0 with R5 Finale of the Deep, but it took me so long, and I had to use C1 Furina and C0 Xilonen with her (and C1 Chevreuse).
I'll pull for Ororon on Lyney's banner
Please make video about weapon banner too!
Zhongli and Neuvi since adult characters are hard to come by.
Love the new format
Pyro travel will be bast sub dps for chasca
Hoping to win 37.5/37.5 on Lyneys weapon:))) and then pull lyney xd
I am beginner and have yelan and xilonen, nahida as 5 star and primordial jade spear as weapon so should I pull for go for nuvillete or arlecchino/mavuika, as i don't have any on field dps and have some wishes and capturing radiance in line(lost 3 50/50in line) am at end of sumeru
12:16 even though Itto doesn't strictly need the shield, I think his most comfy teams play Zhongli anyway. You really want a shield regardless for geo resonance to work. Gorou can pull in crystallize shields, but you can't play him if you're also playing Xilonen instead of Zhongli. You do still get crystallize shields if you play Xilonen double hydro, but it's less consistent, and Itto's energy requirements are a lot higher than on a traditional mono geo team. If your Xilonen is C2 and you can still slot in Gorou, then yeah she's obviously better for Itto. But at least from my personal experience with C0 Zhongli and Xilonen, mono geo still feels better than double hydro.
Imo it sounds like it’s just your builds, my double hydro team doesn’t struggle with energy at all, and if it ever does you just need to give Furina fav sword and you’re set. Personally I can’t go back to mono geo because double hydro feels much better to use.
It's not for comfiness actually. Zhongli's resonance damage in mono geo with 5 constructs is Xingqiu level. Full ATK build.
I accidentaly got C1! while trying to get ororon. Now I have a rush to get C2 but I also want the archon...advice?
When It's 3 AM but TGS just dropped a banger ! 🗿🗿
Got chasca, n she is gr8✨
Zhongli for the archon afk team is a must
Its honestly my fav thing to use when im just too lazy to play
You don't need Zhongli for that team. Sure if you want the entire team to be only archons for the sake of being only archons you can put him in there. Though his shield doesn't contribute much.
Since Raiden, Nahida and Furina have auto attacking skills, meaning endless hyper blooms wherever the enemy goes.
You could just stay away from the enemy and walk around. A better option for the archon team is Jean since she can max stack Furina's fanfare in a single click whilst also healing any damage you might've taken.
However it wouldn't truly be an 'archon' team then. Even though Jean is like the de facto ruler of Mondstadt anyways ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
I would love Morax C6 ... but i dont think that's possible for me... so I will focus on Neuvillette.
Oh, please speak about Neuvillette, I am far from being convinced he is great for an F2P player. How big is the level of investment into him so that he becomes really useful in the abyss? Is Ash-Graven Drinking Horn (free event weapon) good for him? Is C0 with C0 Zhongli and C0 Xilonen (no signatures!!!) enough to clear the abyss? I ask because you say "he does not need these characters" (13:52), and I know a lot of players who have Neuvillette and still struggle in the abyss with him.
You literally just have to level him up, get MH Artifacts and slap the Prototype Amber on him.
Voila you have the most broken F2P DPS in the game
Pair him up units like Fischl, Sucrose, and Diona and Spiral Abyss becomes easy as hell at least for his side.
@@AmbroseVermillion All my MH artifacts are crap. It will take ages to get something decent :(
Going for neuvi c1
I'm on a full sized screen right now, but I could imagine the text on the slides at 1:58 and 10:25 could be annoying to view on a phone while on the go
lord have mercy 😢
nuvi then mauvika and arlechino
Was thinking whether to get Chasca or Neuvi… ok then Neuvi it is!
What I noticed in my case, as a player who loves max build my dpses, now I rarely use op character like neu, arle in exploration because enemies die so fast and makes thing feel a bit boring. And my world level is at max.
Skipping - I have teams that want other dps - my wish list right now just includes Arlecchino and Alhaitham for dps and Furina to round up my supports (I already have Kazuha and Xilonen, and Bennett and Xingqui)
will you make a guide for ororon? i'm waiting
Going for Vortex to complete my Drip
Where mavuika
Already have zhongli and neuvi at C0. Skip lynette since mavuika and pyro traveler is around the corner. So chasca it is.
Damn ur videos just keep get better
meta unit come and goes, exploration is forever!
Neuvillette has pretty useful exploration. He can float over water and liquid Phlogiston (lava) and float up mountain slopes
who is a better choice c1 nuvi or mauvika
pull ZL if you already have the skills to clear the abyss and you just want comfort in the game.
pull neuvi if you dont have the skills to clear the abyss.
pull chasca if you want ease in playing genshin for the whole year. easy traversal/exploration.
pull lyney if you are into little boys with short shorts, otherwise skip.
Brother your line should be to pull Zhong li if you have enough dps because zhong li is quite literally the opposite of having skill.
@@adityadobhal8351 that's not the point im trying to make. say, you already have skills to clear the abyss consistently (45-60secs).
if the team dps of your 3 units are enough to clear abyss, then having ZL as 4th unit will make it braindead easy.
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on the other hand, if people without enough skill decided to get zhongli,
they will still not be able to beat the abyss since in most cases ZL is a net loss in damage.
edit:
yeah youre right. it's actually about team dps, not skill. took me long to realize your saying what i acutally meant to say.
@@mikkunmikkichi3762 No problem brother.
I actually like these kinds of civil arguments as it can often lead to insight to things even I do not know.
But I have seen it many times on RUclips that people become toxic for no reason.
Hope you have a great day.
Yo @TGS I have C3 alhaitham with mistsplitter reforged. There’s no way C0 neuvy without sig outperforms, right?
That’s probably not enough info to go off of. Alhaitham is pretty team dependent, and how good c0r0 Neuv is can also depend on what buffers you have available. You can’t really compare two characters in a vacuum without team buffs - going from DMC to Nahida to c2 Nahida is a big difference for Alhaitham, for instance.
c0r0 neuv outpreforms I'm sorry. On his best team alhaitham does 35% of total damage according to his calcs and the team does 73k dmg. Neuv's best team does 95k dps at c0r0 and he does 68% of the teams damage. Even if alhaitham had raiden or mualani level cons he would still do worse.
Honestly I just want one Ororon but if I get Chasca oh well
Same. I'm at 64 pity and will be only able to make one 10 pull before hitting soft pity
@@nolandzur Unless Ororon is ur favorite character ever, don't do it. It's never worth it, especially if you're f2p or a low spender.
I just want ororon 😭 but got chasca after updating the game 😭😭😭 (i do not want her cos i have wanderer already 😭)
My gut is telling me to pull chasca at anycost because she will work best with citlali and mavuika on the same team in future. No proof just a gut feeling
it is insanely unlikely mavuika can even reach bennet's ankles when it comes to chasca buffing. but citlali will probably be extremely good.
@@juggernaut6666 pyro traveler leaks say mobile bennett buff, or similar. ive heard 60% ATK that follows you. chasca will move and likely leave bennetts circle.
@@juggernaut6666 yeah Bennett is the inevitable and there's no escaping circle impact but maybe if by some godly luck I'm able to get c1 it will be Bennett mavuika and citlani one 1 team
Not only at any cost but at least to C2! As a bonus you get Ororon maybe even to C6.
@@learnshredguitar Bennet has 120% atk buff.
Came to see if Zhongli is worth getting for my Tighnari spread team over like Layla. Didn’t get an answer, so I’ll ask chat. Chat?
Imo yes. He shreds dendro and electro resistance (and ofc his shield is stronger), which is a more impactful buff than anything Layla can do for that team.
That said, you could also use someone like Kirara or Baizhu on 4p Instructor, and Tighnari’s CAs are so fast that he’s not too punishing to play shieldless imo (in which case double electro or a Furina team can be stronger), so idk if Zhongli is essential. He’s definitely a big upgrade over Layla, tho, and he’s my go to for most Tighnari teams when I’m playing casually and not in the mood to focus on dodging.
@@hyacynth2182 Alr have C3 Nahida, so I use her with him. Was thinking I should use Zhongli since he's one of the few chars that can shred dendro too (with Nahida). Then was thinking of using Yae/Fischl. Should I get Yae? I feel like her rots work better with Tighnari.
@@mugenhikage Yae is great with Tighnari, for sure. Imo his best team at the moment is Nahida Furina Kuki, quickswapping to spread Kuki’s healing out, but Tighnari Nahida Yae Zhongli is more comfortable and maybe his best shielded team.
i use zhongli & xilonen together cus why not
If you actually have a life like a job or in studies who dont have time unlike these tryhards john lee is amazing he can garante to comfortably clear one side of the abyss no need to learn attack patterns and guids
Would c6 Diona be a waste on a chasca team with Bennett and Furina? Wasn’t sure how much her c6 would proc or even add to chascas damage
You are 100% gonna get one vape/melt so it's a slight dmg increase.
Is it too early to mention Citlali vs Zhongli?
I’d say yes. Wait until she’s at least in beta, right now we don’t even have numbers/scalings, just some general descriptions. Once her kit is up somewhere like Hakushin with full descriptions and scalings it’ll be easier to compare them.
Any characters that have both furina and bennet as best supports for them is an easy skip for me.
I pull for zhongli and mavuika
Im still torn, who should i with first, c1 lyney or chasca ? I love lyney and i want to make him stronger, the weapon looks only promising if i get chasca.
when im faced with that, i let the weapon banner pick
Tbh Chasca’s weapon looks VERY good for Lyney, and his c1 is… okay? But nothing amazing. I’d go for the weapon banner if you want to buff Lyney, since even getting Chasca’s should imo be a bigger buff than his c1.
Between Lyney c1 and Chasca c0 it’s hard to say. I’m also choosing between the two, since I like Lyney way more but new characters are more fun than a medium impact con. In your case I’d start with the weapon banner then see how you feel.
Conflicted between zhongli and neuvillette c1. Kinda feeling like I’ve made it this far (12-3 36 SA, Act 10 10 IT) with no shielder do I really need one lol
If you play him with Furina definitely C1
@ good point
im only pulling on chasca to get ororon i want mavuika or c2 furina
Skip all 4 ill grab chasca on a re run
I have c1 nuievellete is it worth to go for c2
Well, I wanted Ororororon, and I got him on my second 10 pull, so yay!
However I also got Chasca on that same 10 pull...yay I guess, I wasn't really looking for her...
I should have left it there, but I wanted another Orororororon...and pulled again...Chasca's C1 🙄
I guess I have to build her properly now...
you just got a 10% dmg increase on an average 5 star but sure..
@@NeverSettleForMediocrity Even at level 40 she's been doing some decent damage, just keep the mouse button down and it just does charged shot after charged shot.
Just gotta get more coinage, and kill some more of the flower thing...which Chasca does pretty easily.
4:39 if i dont have Furina, is Shenhe/Benett/Ororon a good team ?
Ororon may have issues without a hydro teammate, and electro + cryo is a weird combo for reactions. I might try replacing either Shenhe or Ororon with a hydro unit. It should work okay tho, it’s a soup team with buffs, hard to go wrong.
@@hyacynth2182 Which of the hydro units do you think would be a decent option? Using Xingqiu and Yelan require us to weave NAs to proc their burst, Chasca not doing any NA during her skill is kinda wasting their subdps dmg tbh
@@Kalavalsar Furina > Mona, mainly. Maybe TTDS/Tenacity Kokomi, since enabling better reactions (overvape or some melts vs superconduct) + Chasca and Ororon’s passives is decent even if her damage isn’t great. Burst Ayato and Sigewinne are okay too I guess, in a pinch.
Question, what can be said about aggravate/hyperbloom teams for Chasca? Is she so terrible there that no one talks about it?
What? Chasca is anemo and her passive only allows pech characters in the team for elemental bullets so 0 synergy with anything dendro lol
Why would you want to play her in a hyperbloom or aggrevate team?!
She would be a side grade maybe a downgrade in comparison to Kazuha, and sucrose, because she doesn't provide and em bonus like the do. But I don't see why you can't with a nahida yae Miko, fishcl, team core.
What would the team look like…? If she has cons I guess you could run hydro electro dendro, but using a team slot on dendro is a bad idea at c0, and Chasca has no innate EM scaling or synergy with dendro reactions so she wouldn’t really benefit. The fact that she does mixed damage will also make it impossible to actually build around aggravate, since half the time she’ll be dealing hydro damage and won’t benefit from EM. She also doesn’t use normal attacks, which means you can’t use popular hydro enablers like Yelan and Xingqiu.
Imo the best way to use her on a hyperbloom team is the same way you’d use hyperbloom Eula or Navia, as a random flex slot on a self-sufficient 3 person team. In other words, it’s a waste of her kit and only relevant if you need a team to carry her whether or not her damage is good.
@@Wrath0 she could aggravate electro bullets. Yes, one shot would be lost to dendro, still.
3:38 awe i wish chevvy was here, her c6 gives chasca 60% pyro n electro dmg bonus as well as heals on skill to trigger the fontaine bows passive (shes basically a comfier bennett for overworld)
chasca is an anemo character
@@rerg6923Being anemo will only turn off Chev’s resistance shred, not her other buffs, so if she’s c6 you’d still get her atk% and dmg% buffs. Her res shred is arguably the best part of her kit (and very few people even have her c6) so I don’t think Chev was worth mentioning in the video, but she’s not *useless* outside of pure overload teams. If Bennett is busy, c6 Chev + Ororon + Furina or something wouldn’t be too bad, imo, for those lucky enough to have her c6.
@@hyacynth2182 You just lied, cheveruse loses her attack buff if the unit is not pyro or electro. Also her c6 gives ONLY pyro damage and electro damage boost, when you run chasca you have to use bennet therefore you lose dmg% bonus but also 1.33 bullets meaning you are losing most of your damage in exchange for an exlucisvely electro and pyro buff. Reason why this is bad is even if you add ororon you get a total of 60% dmg boost to three bullets but is you use mualani with ttds and the natlan support set you not only gain an extra bullet but you get 48% atk and 40% all dmg bonus. Literally a dps outpreforms CH
EVERUSE C6 at being a support.
@@AlwaysThirstys You're right about her a4 only buffing atk% for pyro and electro characters, my bad, I always forget that detail. She'll still trigger it on teams with Chasca, but it won't buff Chasca. That said, note how I said "I don't think Chev was worth mentioning in the video," and that I wasn't arguing she was a good support for her, just not literally useless. You're right that her c6 still doesn't make her a great support for Chasca, but that doesn't contradict anything I said. Off meta teams exist even if they're worse than ideal ones, and I disagree that you "have" to use Bennett with Chasca.
Guys! Guide.
i never droped zongliin my team
I pull Ororon
GUYS!
- If no jonlee then get him
- If got jonlee then get Chasca
Ok that's all for today!
I get lyney
Both zhongli and neuvillete make the game more boring (both through their power and for me, unfun playstyles)
C2 Lyney is my!