I agree! I loved my X4 860K. I got it with a student's budget and it served quite well. Squeezed a bit more life out of it with an easy 4.2Ghz overclock. But then it was asking to be put down when it could no longer run the latest GTA V without game assets popping out of thin air. F.
@@redwinedrummer I always wondered how fun the 860k would be to play with. I have a 760k but am currently searching for a motherboard to drop it into and send it to the moon.
Just wanna say I love your channel and your content! It's a refreshing getaway from the usual high end build videos and depressing GPU shortage talk. Keep it up!
@@RandomGaminginHD also wanna say thanks for ya content! it actually helped one of my buddies out. he wanted to build a computer and i helped him with the parts he needed. problem was the gpu. but when i saw ya video about the amd ryzen 5 4650g i found the perfect apu for him until he will be able to buy a gpu. pc is alr built btw and he is very happy! so kudos to you (and best of luck for ya sisters channel btw.)!
is there guide how to optimise win10 to run smoothly on these cpus and budget gpus? it has lot of bloat even 8core occasionally bogs down, when it should run on potato like GTA 5... kudos to GTA 5 team, yea it is old, but they optimized hell out of with still no compromise in graphical quality.
Writing from California: I really appreciate your innovative video idea of revisiting past hardware as I've learned a lot from these videos, thank you, Ravi Peiris M.D.
I think one of the things that hurt the Bristol Ridge range was there being no level 3 cache. That said, my first two AM4 APUs were from that line-up, and I've no complaints.
That cpu actually did a lot better then I thought! I was thinking that Cyberpunk wouldn't even launch because of the missing instructions. Also, crazy to think that they released a processor based on a decade old architecture in 2017.
The missing instructions that matter are SSE 4.1 onwards, and that's Phenom II and Athlon AM3 territory. Bulldozer, Jaguar and derivatives have the extra instructions, but AMD 10h (K10) chips don't, and even with the performance regressions in Bulldozer compared to the best Phenom IIs, your best bet for modern games was going with the FX.
we are still using x86 based cpus now which is like 40 years old? there are instructions in there for real mode systems that are only used by legacy systems
Please do some review about Extreme series of Pentium and Core i processors . They were very expensive back in the days , so i think people would like to hear more about them . Thanks .Nice vid .
It does beat the 2300x on a small overclock and can probably beat a 6700hq if you have decent cooling on it. You. Could push it much further depending on your cooling, and partly the bin ofc, but you can get insane performance out of overclocking it.
Man, this framerate would've been incredible to me 20 - 25 years ago, now people think it's mediocre at best. :-) Played a lot of games @ 15 FPS without a care in the world. Good times...
I got the Phenom's II x4 965 and 980 Black Edition cpu's, which I bought them new back in the day, both working perfectly on my old rig using the MSI ATI Radeon HD R7770 graphic card on Windows 7 Ultimate and they still handle very well the old games and a few of the new ones. Great cpu's with low volt consumption and steady working temperature, they haven't failed ... not even once.
@edmunds tomsons The obvious winner is the one who can provide more (or similar) for less money. And that was Ryzen until year ago, now Intel became more budget since the release of Ryzen 5th gen CPU which are quite expensive for a slightly better overall performance.
When I worked for an OEM, the first sample Ryzen boards (This would be B350 and X370 chipsets) we got from Asus had dodgy BIOS files on them. This resulted in them not being able to boot up with Ryzen chips on them out of the box. I found out the only way to install our own customized BIOS files on them, was to boot the board up with one of these, install the update, shut it down, and then swap the CPU for a Ryzen 1800x. I'm so glad they've got more reliable. I've had no issues with mine.
just realised that RandomGaminginHd does not have any support links ( patreaon,paypal...), you sir are a legend hats off for you my friend keep up the good work.
The fix for Cold War (according to the internet): Launch Call of Duty Black Ops: Cold War Go To Settings > Graphics Scroll towards the end Click on “Restart Shaders Compilation” Wait for the process to complete and restart your game.
I still have this one somewhere. I wanted to start a ryzen build but didn't had the full budget, so I started with a 320K mobo and some RAM and added this athlon as a placeholder. For 50 euros it proved to be pretty fine as a placeholder till it gave way to a R5 2600.
I had an Athlon x4 860k until recently. It couldnt really run the latest games past 20fps but I'm surprised the thing got me through years of gaming at all. Especially with my modded Fallout 4.
This was the processor I wanted to buy for my first ever build, but my dad's friend stopped me just as I wanted to do so and recommended me a Ryzen 3 1200, that was just 40€ more expensive. Quite thankful for him warning me.
Anyone saying athlons don't hold up clearly never used them. Last month I retired my AM3 Athlon X4 640; up until that point I was using it as a workstation. Yes a workstation. Served me for a good decade. Did everything I needed to - Minecraft, IDE suits, video editing, graphics editing, running VMs, and having 20-30 chrome tabs all simultaneously. Only upgraded to R5 5600x because I was worried that due to the Athlon age, either it or the mobo would catastrophically fail at some point. Now it's in my girlfriends gaming pc, and she loves it. Athlons are beasts.
Sadly no. This Athlon seems to be supported only up until X370 Chipsets and the 5950X requires at least a B450 Chipset. However one could theoretically still upgrade to a 3950X on the board seen in this video, which is still really really impressive!
I read you can run ryzen 5000 on x370 its just not officially supported, but ryzen 5000 is bad value anyways so I'd try a ryzen 3000 if you want amd anyways.
when testing RDR2, i would go into the towns. bc the towns can really make a difference. like strawberry is hard on the CPU as well. like i go with my old fx8320 from 50-60fps in the wildernis to 35fps in towns
@@tilburg8683 no. Never overclocked before. I am one of the more careful pc gamers that try to play safe. I saw the option in the bios, but just left it at default.
I had one of these, and let a friend borrow it for a bit (this is a few years back). I set him up with it for a temp use. I gave him a cheap 32GB RAM kit to use with it, and tightened the timings up quite a bit! Then did a slight OC in the BIOS and with MSI (not much, there's not a lot of overhead here, so low hanging fruit if you will). His gaming experience wasn't too bad from what he said. He since gave me the CPU back, and I sold it on eBay.
Best thing about this chip is to get your foot in the door of AM4 if you don't have ryzen money but want to build a system with some upgrade headroom rather than go for an older end-of-life intel setup. I just ordered one of these along with a mini itx AM4 motherboard. Will upgrade it to ryzen down the road when prices come down
Videos like this just prove even further how far has AMD gone in the last 5 years. I am planning on buying an Ryzen 5 5500 laptop in the next few months because of how well AMD keeps on going with its Ryzen lineup
For Cold War and Modern Warfare 2019 (for the compiling shaders) do try and go to settings and find the setting where it says restart shaders or recompile shaders, i think that should help with the issue! :3 Anyways i love the video man, and this cpu would be good for some lite gaming with some mid range gpu like RX470-RX480! :3
Aaaaw! My last Athlon was when it meant something! The great A64 4000+ on the ASUS A8N-SLI* (Socket 939) board in late 2004. Hmm, I wonder how my good OLD Phenom II 1100t@4Ghz will do vs this one? (yes-YES I know NO: 4.1, 4.2, SSSE3, AVX etc.) *Used by 'mum' untill the end of Win7 early 2020! BUT had an Opteron 180 at that time.
so oddly these Athlon AM4 CPUs overclock hilariously well, a crap bin would do 4.4Ghz with ease and also because they are stupid low density at 28nm they arent that hard to cool relative to Zen2 *basically if you like OCing for fun these CPUs are worth the £30-£50*
Only good thing about these CPUs is occasionally you'll see people selling used systems with them in super cheap assuming "Athlon" means old and slow. It's a good way of getting modern parts cheap. I recently got one with a 1050Ti in for £150 which with current GPU pricing means I got the PC basically free with the GPU, PC was made by Scan so all the parts were asus/corsair etc as well.
There's also the AM4 A6-8570 APU which is also interesting. Same clock speed as this CPU but half (only 1c2t) of the cores and has a integrated graphics
My 8 year old mobile Core i7-4700MQ is an absolute beast. It can outperform an i7-2600K at stock, performs like a 4 core 8 thread version of Ryzen 7 1700.
I remember when I builded my first ryzen System ,with the ryzen 7 1800x. Still using it today, but first I wanted this processor, because I wanted a quick change from the Amd A4 Platform... luckily ,i dont bought this one. :)
I think it's about time to revisit the Ryzen 5 1600 since it's almost been 5 years... I currently have the Ryzen 5 1600AF which IMO was the best option to ever exist for a budget gaming build (6c/12t for only 130 euro) paired with a GTX 1050 Ti, yes I know it's bad but considering the 2020-2021 situation ill say it was a good buy (165 euro)
This CPU was made completely obsolete by hyperthreaded Pentiums and Zen based Athlons. Back in 2012/2013 the very similar Athlon X4 740 and X4 840 were good budget options as they went into dirt cheap FM2/FM2+ motherboards and still did okay in most games at the time, they paired well with something like a GTX 650ti/750 or HD 7750/7770/7790 or R7 260/260X/360 and 4GB of DDR3.
Similarly to the Athlon 2/300 and 2/3000 series, this should have been a giveaway item for e.g. AM4 motherboards. As such, it would have been a nice box item for zero-day BIOS upgrades. Otherwise it's just a low-life move to sell heavily outdated chips and the lowest binned manufacturing garbage.
got an athlon II x4 945 propus in my old rig, paired with 12 gig ram and a 1060 6 gig, used it clear up till 2020, when I built a new pc, did great up till that point, got it set up for my daughter so she can play roblox/minecraft, she loves it...
Wow, I was super disconnected back then from the latest and greatest and starting to appreciate what now is called vintage computer and gaming, recovering old pentiums MMX, PII wildly searching for 486 and dreaming about a 386 with an AWE32 or even better with a roland MT32. I really didn't knew until I watched this video that the AM4 platform (A320 and B350 chipset motherboards) was released in September 2016 before the first ZEN based CPU was available! Have you reviewed any other of these CPUs?
Did a build fx8120 with a 1660 super 12 gb ram for a friend it plays triple a games around 60 fps he loves it fx cpu still an ok build today and will heat the house
I think I prefer intel tho, I had a ryzen 5600x 65w at a low voltage and it produced over twice as much heat as a i7 3790x which was pulling over 230w at times.(I think its rated at a 130w tdp). Not sure about ryzen 3000, ryzen 2000 was fine but bad for gaming, a 2700x would perform close to a i5 4460 because a lot of games still depend on single core speed(it still gets decent fps and better lows, and is great in well developed games that use all core, but for a lot I had hoped for better performance. R5 5600x was fine but even the fx8350 at a decent overclock was no match in heat production. Like a 5600x is grazy hot. Performance is nice but I don't want a nuclear reactor just a cpu.
@@tilburg8683 BS, I got 5900X, I was rocking Intel for Years, (BTW still using same Noctua Cooler with ThermalGrizzly Kryonaut) and my poor 7700K (Remember 4 Core) was as hot as my 12 core Ryzen is now. I don't really believe that 6 core Ryzen 5 outputs more heat than mine 12 core Ryzen 9, that don't sound very convincing.
I still have an old Phenom II X6 1045T 2.70 GHz Processor - Socket AM3 PGA-938 in my old computer, however I’m now running a ryzen 7 2700x in my new rig, I do want to get my old rig running again to stream games from my new one to my old one in the living room, I gave my ssd from the old one to my sister’s laptop, so I just need an ssd
Last Athlon CPU was the AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ Windsor Dual-Core 2.4 GHz Socket AM2 for my main rig which shortly got transferred to my HTPC, replaced by q6600 parts.
can you do a video on the ivy bridge dell precisions? ps love your videos makes my hw seem less bad gt720 ddr3 and dell precision t1650 gpu bottlenecked
The Cursed Athlon is back in another video! This cpu's the one I started with before I saved up for a Ryzen cpu, and it was a pain to use. And for some reason, overclocking it from 3.8 to 4.0 or 4.1ghz would actually slow it down, even though the cooling was more than adequate
2 Years ago i got a A8 9600 for 5€ new, the seal wasn't broken. The seller wanted 20 bucks but no one was interested so i was lucky and got it so cheap. i paired it with an cheap (20€)asus a320 board and used the AI suite software from asus which allows you to overclock on A320 and allows you to overclock locked cpus haha. i played a lot of PS2 games with the PCSX2 emulator and the overclock really helped. the igpu can't be overclocked, same goes for the memory, 2400mhz is the max. All ps2 games ran atleast with 2x the resolution and alot of games with 3x the resolution. Dolphin also ran great. i later sold the motherboard+apu+2x4gb 2400mhz combo for 90€ so i actually made money with it. i would say that these old apus are great for emulation systems on the budget.
Very surprised to see the FPS in GTA V, I'm running an i5 750 and a GTX 750 Ti and getting 50-60fps with the same settings almost. Admittedly I'm playing at 1600x900.
This was my first CPU. It was my entry point to AM4. Start with this and then get a Ryzen 5 later. That didn't happen because my X4 decided to go to the great system in the sky two weeks after I bought it. Had to use a hand-me-down system from a friend for a while. Ironically, I used the same strategy when the Ryzen based Athlons came out. This time, it worked!
I used to have an x4 860k CPU which performs really bad in games like Assassin's creed origins. Textures wouldn't load properly and FPS droped to 10 FPS. I now have a Ryzen 1600x overclocked to 3.9ghz which performs great in Assassin's creed origins & Odyssey.
It's a sensible chip to use for a short while these days because, not only can it overclock a bit but also it runs on a mboard wih a pci-e gen3 slot. That means a geforce 1030 oc can be used with it unlike a mboard with merely pci-e gen2 which some say is bottlenecking the nvidia 1030 by about 15%. So, considering a 1030 oc is one of the few video cards people can get these days _(what with the mining situation prices and availability)_ the x4 950 cpu is a reasonable match for that GPU especially of both have a little overclock.
I'm trying to figure out the utility of this. The FX 8350 was superior. The FX had 20% better single-core numbers, 115% higher multi-threaded numbers, and about 67% higher synthetic numbers. So what's the point really?
Its basically the A-Series without the iGPU......Although A-series and Zen based Athlons are superior budget options for an office pc. Same CB-R20 score with A10-9700, its sad all of these FM2/FM2+ socket refreshes have capped 2400MHz RAM (+ overvolted, my A10 is at 1.40V and with a Stock cooler with Noctua NT-H1 i get 90°C with full GPU/CPU load) .
The GPU usage monitor is all over the place. Randomly Jumping somewhere between 0 and 100% usage. MSI afterburner doesn't really work with amd gpus when it comes to monitoring the usage. I suggest showing the power draw the gpu has. It at least gives an idea about how much the gpu is really used
I have one of those coming I’m gonna stick it in a thermaltake core v21 with a sapphire vapor r9 280x 650 watt gold PSU from EVGA for some Kodi movie and tv streaming I got an Air Mouse so I hope it goes well! If anything it was 30$ I’ll just get a Ryzen 3 or upgrade my ryzen 5 3600 to a 5000 and stick the 3600 in it! If I don’t have to that would be great tho :)
What about the A-series processors that aren't based on the Zen processors? Is there any prospects of you covering them? I'm currently rocking an AMD-9600 that I overclocked to 3.7GHz with CPB disabled.
You have too manually tweak everything in order too eliminate most of the stuttering.Not much cache,she’s always rinsing and repeating so she needs a tune.
@edmunds tomsons I saved up a few hundred to buy the whole pc now the gpu costs more than I bought it for, But its fun to mess around with it so I keep it around.
I always liked the old x4 athlons form the FM2/FM2+ days. I know they dont hold up but they were a great budget option back then.
Yeah definitely :)
I'm still rocking a Phenom II X6 in my garage PC and it's pretty capable for work and GTA V 😆
@@yanmustand I did a video on unlocking a quad core athlon ii to a phenom ii x6. I love the phenom lineup. Very underrated CPUs imo
I agree! I loved my X4 860K. I got it with a student's budget and it served quite well. Squeezed a bit more life out of it with an easy 4.2Ghz overclock. But then it was asking to be put down when it could no longer run the latest GTA V without game assets popping out of thin air. F.
@@redwinedrummer I always wondered how fun the 860k would be to play with. I have a 760k but am currently searching for a motherboard to drop it into and send it to the moon.
Just wanna say I love your channel and your content! It's a refreshing getaway from the usual high end build videos and depressing GPU shortage talk. Keep it up!
Thanks :)
depressing but true
Same here!
@@RandomGaminginHD also wanna say thanks for ya content! it actually helped one of my buddies out. he wanted to build a computer and i helped him with the parts he needed. problem was the gpu. but when i saw ya video about the amd ryzen 5 4650g i found the perfect apu for him until he will be able to buy a gpu. pc is alr built btw and he is very happy!
so kudos to you (and best of luck for ya sisters channel btw.)!
is there guide how to optimise win10 to run smoothly on these cpus and budget gpus? it has lot of bloat even 8core occasionally bogs down, when it should run on potato like GTA 5... kudos to GTA 5 team, yea it is old, but they optimized hell out of with still no compromise in graphical quality.
"First made an appearance in OEMs and then it became a retail processor". *Well that sounds a bit familiar*
4G and 5g series but without the retail part?
@@JPX64Channel the 5000 series APUs are gonna be retail in a few months though
@@PaperReaper if they can make them lmao
@@t_y8274 that's another matter hahahha lol
@@PaperReaper You wish.
6:42 He just casually shut the car door lol
“And hopefully we can run a few of my favorites”
*goes straight to cyberpunk*
kek
This is good game despite the bugs
@@mrpiszczaka8249 yes
I liked cyberpunk very much, what is the issue?
@@ademiravdic there is none
Writing from California: I really appreciate your innovative video idea of revisiting past hardware as I've learned a lot from these videos, thank you,
Ravi Peiris M.D.
Didnt expect this to do as well as it did in RDR2, impressive :)
Yeah the game seems to be pretty lenient on processors. As long as you’ve got 4 cores it seems to run fine haha
I think the frametime issues, even when not under full load might be due to the 950 apparently having no level 3 cache.
I think one of the things that hurt the Bristol Ridge range was there being no level 3 cache. That said, my first two AM4 APUs were from that line-up, and I've no complaints.
That cpu actually did a lot better then I thought!
I was thinking that Cyberpunk wouldn't even launch because of the missing instructions.
Also, crazy to think that they released a processor based on a decade old architecture in 2017.
The missing instructions that matter are SSE 4.1 onwards, and that's Phenom II and Athlon AM3 territory. Bulldozer, Jaguar and derivatives have the extra instructions, but AMD 10h (K10) chips don't, and even with the performance regressions in Bulldozer compared to the best Phenom IIs, your best bet for modern games was going with the FX.
They were really stagnating at the time, and they actually weren't sure, whether Ryzen will succeed, so it was quite normal for AMD at the time
we are still using x86 based cpus now which is like 40 years old? there are instructions in there for real mode systems that are only used by legacy systems
The architecture was 6 years old at the time.
@@jub8891 Meant stuff like SSE 4.1
Please do some review about Extreme series of Pentium and Core i processors . They were very expensive back in the days , so i think people would like to hear more about them .
Thanks .Nice vid .
He’s done some in the past on his channel.
she's giving it all she's got captain!!!!!
ryzen realy changed the competition in the cpu market
That’s like saying water flows down a river . No shit
Yeah the FX 8370 was the best option years ago, now even the Ryzen 3 1200 will outperform it
Really? Shouldn't a fx 8350 beat a 3200g? Saw that in a benchmark and the fx8350 didn't even see full useage.
It does beat the 2300x on a small overclock and can probably beat a 6700hq if you have decent cooling on it. You. Could push it much further depending on your cooling, and partly the bin ofc, but you can get insane performance out of overclocking it.
@@tilburg8683 No.
Would love to see you revisit the r7 250 in 2021.
I have it and its pretty good
Bought it for 25$
Can play GTA 5 with low settings 1080p at around 60fps
@@wearefromserbia9714 better that the xbox 360. Runs like crap on one.
He did a video on a card that is identical to the R7 250 DDR3 very recently, the R7 340X.
@@Madchris8828 Xbox 360 is from 2006 though... That was before even Windows 7 released
Man, this framerate would've been incredible to me 20 - 25 years ago, now people think it's mediocre at best. :-) Played a lot of games @ 15 FPS without a care in the world. Good times...
So true. I remember finishing Skyrim on a 2013 i3, 4GB ram and Intel HD 4600 laptop. Not sure about the FPS. I wasnt aware of fps back then
@edmunds tomsons lol bought the game on special. Hoped it worked. But I did notice laptop needed to plugged in to play without stutter. Good times.
I got the Phenom's II x4 965 and 980 Black Edition cpu's, which I bought them new back in the day, both working perfectly on my old rig using the MSI ATI Radeon HD R7770 graphic card on Windows 7 Ultimate and they still handle very well the old games and a few of the new ones. Great cpu's with low volt consumption and steady working temperature, they haven't failed ... not even once.
For AMD, This Processor represented a time of "EPIC FORESHADOWING!"
I think that the main reason for stutters is the lack of L3 cache.This CPU has none of it.
Had this CPU in my system temporarily when I was waiting to upgrade to Ryzen. I got a Ryzen 1700x for $190 back when Zen+ was announced.
Never saw a CPU/Mobo review on a grass background before. Way to switch it up.
that one last lost to intel in history, from there on, it's all massacre.
interesting fact!
Are we forgetting that Intel still beat 1000 and 2000 gen Ryzen pretty convincingly?
@@How23497 Still for the price, the 1000 and 2000 series were extremely impressive. I managed to get a 2600 for £100 NEW when the 3000 series came out
@edmunds tomsons The obvious winner is the one who can provide more (or similar) for less money. And that was Ryzen until year ago, now Intel became more budget since the release of Ryzen 5th gen CPU which are quite expensive for a slightly better overall performance.
@randomgaminginhd could you please enable captions in your videos? For us that are hard of hearing, it would make your always good videos great!
Another RandomGamingInHD video, another relaxing time, thanks RGHD!
When I worked for an OEM, the first sample Ryzen boards (This would be B350 and X370 chipsets) we got from Asus had dodgy BIOS files on them. This resulted in them not being able to boot up with Ryzen chips on them out of the box. I found out the only way to install our own customized BIOS files on them, was to boot the board up with one of these, install the update, shut it down, and then swap the CPU for a Ryzen 1800x. I'm so glad they've got more reliable. I've had no issues with mine.
Bro i blinked, and in 5 days you uploaded 4 videos, i love how consistent you are and how entertaining your content is!
just realised that RandomGaminginHd does not have any support links ( patreaon,paypal...), you sir are a legend hats off for you my friend keep up the good work.
The fix for Cold War (according to the internet):
Launch Call of Duty Black Ops: Cold War
Go To Settings > Graphics
Scroll towards the end
Click on “Restart Shaders Compilation”
Wait for the process to complete and restart your game.
The shaders compilation is the most annoying thing about a fresh install of BOCW.
Its esentially an "enhanced" and "modernised" (With a better DDR4 memory contoroller) Kaveri-Based FX for socket AM4.
I still have this one somewhere. I wanted to start a ryzen build but didn't had the full budget, so I started with a 320K mobo and some RAM and added this athlon as a placeholder.
For 50 euros it proved to be pretty fine as a placeholder till it gave way to a R5 2600.
Could you do a video about the am3 socket and if its worth in 2021?
Yeah I’ll keep an eye out for some bits :)
@edmunds tomsons still worth a shot.
@@joeonyt196 It isn't. Old Intel aged much better than AMD
@@dustojnikhummer Look up the RA Tech channel am3+ isn't nearly as bad ad people act like
@@virtualtools_3021 Oh AM3 is worse than people think.
Your videos are like a sleeping therapy for me.
I had an Athlon x4 860k until recently. It couldnt really run the latest games past 20fps but I'm surprised the thing got me through years of gaming at all. Especially with my modded Fallout 4.
I used AMD X4 620 in my old server, you could undervolt that thing to insane levels.
Had this same CPU with a HD7870 back them and it was very capable for gaming and office stuff, price paid was very low.
My server has an Athlon X4 760k, and I loved it when I got it. Actually still screams pretty good outside of games. Runs stuff pretty fast.
my 760k runs 5.1ghz
DUDE. What voltage?! How the hell are you achieving that?!
This was the processor I wanted to buy for my first ever build, but my dad's friend stopped me just as I wanted to do so and recommended me a Ryzen 3 1200, that was just 40€ more expensive. Quite thankful for him warning me.
I have a R3 1200, and I can confirm, it is quite good, compared to a athlon x4 860k OCd to 3.9ghz
Yeah the 1200 is great, and the 1200 AF variant of course. Really hard to find nowadays though at least here
@@RandomGaminginHD Yeah, Just checked on the local cragslist and fb marketplace, and there is only one 1200.
My mom picked-up an old HP from the side of the road that has a socket AM3 Athlon X4 630 (2.8 ghz), scores about 500 in cinebench R20.
Anyone saying athlons don't hold up clearly never used them. Last month I retired my AM3 Athlon X4 640; up until that point I was using it as a workstation. Yes a workstation. Served me for a good decade. Did everything I needed to - Minecraft, IDE suits, video editing, graphics editing, running VMs, and having 20-30 chrome tabs all simultaneously. Only upgraded to R5 5600x because I was worried that due to the Athlon age, either it or the mobo would catastrophically fail at some point. Now it's in my girlfriends gaming pc, and she loves it. Athlons are beasts.
lmao this is am4? someone could theoretically upgrade from this to 5950x on the same board?
absolutely haha
Sadly no. This Athlon seems to be supported only up until X370 Chipsets and the 5950X requires at least a B450 Chipset.
However one could theoretically still upgrade to a 3950X on the board seen in this video, which is still really really impressive!
I read you can run ryzen 5000 on x370 its just not officially supported, but ryzen 5000 is bad value anyways so I'd try a ryzen 3000 if you want amd anyways.
when testing RDR2, i would go into the towns.
bc the towns can really make a difference.
like strawberry is hard on the CPU as well.
like i go with my old fx8320 from 50-60fps in the wildernis to 35fps in towns
Did you overclock your fx8320?
@@tilburg8683 no.
Never overclocked before.
I am one of the more careful pc gamers that try to play safe.
I saw the option in the bios, but just left it at default.
I had one of these, and let a friend borrow it for a bit (this is a few years back). I set him up with it for a temp use. I gave him a cheap 32GB RAM kit to use with it, and tightened the timings up quite a bit! Then did a slight OC in the BIOS and with MSI (not much, there's not a lot of overhead here, so low hanging fruit if you will). His gaming experience wasn't too bad from what he said. He since gave me the CPU back, and I sold it on eBay.
How is the i5 11400 the slowest cpu in your cinebench results?
My fav right before Ryzen came out is the A12 7th gen lol seemed to do not bad to good enough for the price haha
Best thing about this chip is to get your foot in the door of AM4 if you don't have ryzen money but want to build a system with some upgrade headroom rather than go for an older end-of-life intel setup. I just ordered one of these along with a mini itx AM4 motherboard. Will upgrade it to ryzen down the road when prices come down
Videos like this just prove even further how far has AMD gone in the last 5 years. I am planning on buying an Ryzen 5 5500 laptop in the next few months because of how well AMD keeps on going with its Ryzen lineup
For Cold War and Modern Warfare 2019 (for the compiling shaders) do try and go to settings and find the setting where it says restart shaders or recompile shaders, i think that should help with the issue! :3 Anyways i love the video man, and this cpu would be good for some lite gaming with some mid range gpu like RX470-RX480! :3
Aaaaw! My last Athlon was when it meant something! The great A64 4000+ on the ASUS A8N-SLI* (Socket 939) board in late 2004.
Hmm, I wonder how my good OLD Phenom II 1100t@4Ghz will do vs this one? (yes-YES I know NO: 4.1, 4.2, SSSE3, AVX etc.)
*Used by 'mum' untill the end of Win7 early 2020! BUT had an Opteron 180 at that time.
so oddly these Athlon AM4 CPUs overclock hilariously well, a crap bin would do 4.4Ghz with ease and also because they are stupid low density at 28nm they arent that hard to cool relative to Zen2
*basically if you like OCing for fun these CPUs are worth the £30-£50*
Does that mean they could be OC'd enough for a decent server?
My first CPU, it was in a pre-built that was pretty limited. Luckily i was able to upgrade to a Ryzen pretty quickly.
As a graphics card, I can approve of this video.
Now can u pls stop this reused comment.
@@Reverse_Goat the entire point of accounts like those ones is to use the same format.
@@Jaeeden oh
@@Reverse_Goat welcome to RUclips
@@Graphics_Card come to me and be in the pcie x16 slot on my motherboard right now and open cyberbug 2077
damn, what a jump!
Only good thing about these CPUs is occasionally you'll see people selling used systems with them in super cheap assuming "Athlon" means old and slow. It's a good way of getting modern parts cheap. I recently got one with a 1050Ti in for £150 which with current GPU pricing means I got the PC basically free with the GPU, PC was made by Scan so all the parts were asus/corsair etc as well.
i have a x4 950 with a gtx 1050 2gb but sure as hell works for me
Same here :) good performance on everything I have tried :)
There's also the AM4 A6-8570 APU which is also interesting. Same clock speed as this CPU but half (only 1c2t) of the cores and has a integrated graphics
My 8 year old mobile Core i7-4700MQ is an absolute beast. It can outperform an i7-2600K at stock, performs like a 4 core 8 thread version of Ryzen 7 1700.
After watching this video, I looked up FM2+ CPUs for my old desktop that has a A10-7800 APU.
I remember when I builded my first ryzen System ,with the ryzen 7 1800x. Still using it today, but first I wanted this processor, because I wanted a quick change from the Amd A4 Platform... luckily ,i dont bought this one. :)
Congrats on not buying it 😂😂
@edmunds tomsons You are right man, but back then, I got an nice offer. Just 200€ here in Germany (i think in 2018 Q1) because a local story closed :)
good work keep it up but if u change the color of the benchmark text would be better to see
I think it's about time to revisit the Ryzen 5 1600 since it's almost been 5 years...
I currently have the Ryzen 5 1600AF which IMO was the best option to ever exist for a budget gaming build (6c/12t for only 130 euro)
paired with a GTX 1050 Ti, yes I know it's bad but considering the 2020-2021 situation ill say it was a good buy (165 euro)
This CPU was made completely obsolete by hyperthreaded Pentiums and Zen based Athlons.
Back in 2012/2013 the very similar Athlon X4 740 and X4 840 were good budget options as they went into dirt cheap FM2/FM2+ motherboards and still did okay in most games at the time, they paired well with something like a GTX 650ti/750 or HD 7750/7770/7790 or R7 260/260X/360 and 4GB of DDR3.
Damn, I didn't even know that there were pre-Ryzen AM4 CPUs.
The fact that you can upgrade from this processor all the way to Ryzen 5000 on a 300 series motherboard is crazy.
Similarly to the Athlon 2/300 and 2/3000 series, this should have been a giveaway item for e.g. AM4 motherboards.
As such, it would have been a nice box item for zero-day BIOS upgrades.
Otherwise it's just a low-life move to sell heavily outdated chips and the lowest binned manufacturing garbage.
Yeah, those "white boxes" still keep their prices high and are not comparable to any Ryzen.
My first PC buildd was an Athlon II X3 435. Ah such good memories.
The 6700 XT is like "What do you even want from me? We just had 40fps, now we have 20fps. You need to focus on our task X4 950, focus for God's sake!"
got an athlon II x4 945 propus in my old rig, paired with 12 gig ram and a 1060 6 gig, used it clear up till 2020, when I built a new pc, did great up till that point, got it set up for my daughter so she can play roblox/minecraft, she loves it...
Wow, I was super disconnected back then from the latest and greatest and starting to appreciate what now is called vintage computer and gaming, recovering old pentiums MMX, PII wildly searching for 486 and dreaming about a 386 with an AWE32 or even better with a roland MT32.
I really didn't knew until I watched this video that the AM4 platform (A320 and B350 chipset motherboards) was released in September 2016 before the first ZEN based CPU was available!
Have you reviewed any other of these CPUs?
8:20 Care to explain what happened to that 11400?
Must be the single core score.
Did a build fx8120 with a 1660 super 12 gb ram for a friend it plays triple a games around 60 fps he loves it fx cpu still an ok build today and will heat the house
AMD Long Years ago: YO GUYS YEARS PASSED AND WE STILL GOT 28nm
Intel now: YO GUYS YEARS PASSED AND WE STILL GOT 14nm
I think I prefer intel tho, I had a ryzen 5600x 65w at a low voltage and it produced over twice as much heat as a i7 3790x which was pulling over 230w at times.(I think its rated at a 130w tdp).
Not sure about ryzen 3000, ryzen 2000 was fine but bad for gaming, a 2700x would perform close to a i5 4460 because a lot of games still depend on single core speed(it still gets decent fps and better lows, and is great in well developed games that use all core, but for a lot I had hoped for better performance. R5 5600x was fine but even the fx8350 at a decent overclock was no match in heat production. Like a 5600x is grazy hot. Performance is nice but I don't want a nuclear reactor just a cpu.
@@tilburg8683 BS, I got 5900X, I was rocking Intel for Years, (BTW still using same Noctua Cooler with ThermalGrizzly Kryonaut) and my poor 7700K (Remember 4 Core) was as hot as my 12 core Ryzen is now.
I don't really believe that 6 core Ryzen 5 outputs more heat than mine 12 core Ryzen 9, that don't sound very convincing.
I still have an old Phenom II X6 1045T 2.70 GHz Processor - Socket AM3 PGA-938 in my old computer, however I’m now running a ryzen 7 2700x in my new rig, I do want to get my old rig running again to stream games from my new one to my old one in the living room, I gave my ssd from the old one to my sister’s laptop, so I just need an ssd
Used that for all that of 6 months. I got it in a motherboard bundle in 2017, wasn't as bad as I thought, but bottlenecked a 1060 I had...
Last Athlon CPU was the AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ Windsor Dual-Core 2.4 GHz Socket AM2 for my main rig which shortly got transferred to my HTPC, replaced by q6600 parts.
can you do a video on the ivy bridge dell precisions? ps love your videos makes my hw seem less bad gt720 ddr3 and dell precision t1650 gpu bottlenecked
The Cursed Athlon is back in another video! This cpu's the one I started with before I saved up for a Ryzen cpu, and it was a pain to use. And for some reason, overclocking it from 3.8 to 4.0 or 4.1ghz would actually slow it down, even though the cooling was more than adequate
That’s strange but I’ve experienced things like that in the past too 😂
I recently bought an i5 4570S for my server for £23. It's an absolute beast for the price.
2 Years ago i got a A8 9600 for 5€ new, the seal wasn't broken. The seller wanted 20 bucks but no one was interested so i was lucky and got it so cheap. i paired it with an cheap (20€)asus a320 board and used the AI suite software from asus which allows you to overclock on A320 and allows you to overclock locked cpus haha. i played a lot of PS2 games with the PCSX2 emulator and the overclock really helped. the igpu can't be overclocked, same goes for the memory, 2400mhz is the max. All ps2 games ran atleast with 2x the resolution and alot of games with 3x the resolution. Dolphin also ran great. i later sold the motherboard+apu+2x4gb 2400mhz combo for 90€ so i actually made money with it. i would say that these old apus are great for emulation systems on the budget.
how's the system with the destroyed psu?
Very surprised to see the FPS in GTA V, I'm running an i5 750 and a GTX 750 Ti and getting 50-60fps with the same settings almost. Admittedly I'm playing at 1600x900.
This was my first CPU. It was my entry point to AM4. Start with this and then get a Ryzen 5 later. That didn't happen because my X4 decided to go to the great system in the sky two weeks after I bought it. Had to use a hand-me-down system from a friend for a while. Ironically, I used the same strategy when the Ryzen based Athlons came out. This time, it worked!
I used to have an x4 860k CPU which performs really bad in games like Assassin's creed origins. Textures wouldn't load properly and FPS droped to 10 FPS.
I now have a Ryzen 1600x overclocked to 3.9ghz which performs great in Assassin's creed origins & Odyssey.
It's a sensible chip to use for a short while these days because, not only can it overclock a bit but also it runs on a mboard wih a pci-e gen3 slot. That means a geforce 1030 oc can be used with it unlike a mboard with merely pci-e gen2 which some say is bottlenecking the nvidia 1030 by about 15%. So, considering a 1030 oc is one of the few video cards people can get these days _(what with the mining situation prices and availability)_ the x4 950 cpu is a reasonable match for that GPU especially of both have a little overclock.
I'm trying to figure out the utility of this. The FX 8350 was superior. The FX had 20% better single-core numbers, 115% higher multi-threaded numbers, and about 67% higher synthetic numbers. So what's the point really?
Cheap way of getting into AM4 socket I suppose.
"light gaming" and he jumps to cyberpunk XD
Do the 880K. Most powerful FM2+ cpu (but not the last one). I think GamersNexus gave it a good review back in like 2016 as an ultra low budget option.
Just wondering... have you gotten your hands on any AMD A-series cpus? (specifically the socket AM4 ones)
i never knew the name Athlon X4 AM4 socket non Zen existed......
I have this cpu for a bios update. God bless amd.
Big problem of this cpu is lacking L3 cache
Its basically the A-Series without the iGPU......Although A-series and Zen based Athlons are superior budget options for an office pc.
Same CB-R20 score with A10-9700, its sad all of these FM2/FM2+ socket refreshes have capped 2400MHz RAM (+ overvolted, my A10 is at 1.40V and with a Stock cooler with Noctua NT-H1 i get 90°C with full GPU/CPU load) .
The GPU usage monitor is all over the place. Randomly Jumping somewhere between 0 and 100% usage. MSI afterburner doesn't really work with amd gpus when it comes to monitoring the usage.
I suggest showing the power draw the gpu has. It at least gives an idea about how much the gpu is really used
Is adrenaline software's monitoring any better?
I’m still rocking the x4 965 lmao
HEY! That's a Phenom(ain't it?)
♥ from a 1100t
I have one of those coming I’m gonna stick it in a thermaltake core v21 with a sapphire vapor r9 280x 650 watt gold PSU from EVGA for some Kodi movie and tv streaming I got an Air Mouse so I hope it goes well! If anything it was 30$ I’ll just get a Ryzen 3 or upgrade my ryzen 5 3600 to a 5000 and stick the 3600 in it! If I don’t have to that would be great tho :)
What about the A-series processors that aren't based on the Zen processors? Is there any prospects of you covering them? I'm currently rocking an AMD-9600 that I overclocked to 3.7GHz with CPB disabled.
I bought a old dell precision T5500 for $81 and it had a 6 core x5680 3.33ghz paired with 32gb of ddr3 ram 1333 mega hertz and a rx 570 8gb
I forgot about these on AM4
You have too manually tweak everything in order too eliminate most of the stuttering.Not much cache,she’s always rinsing and repeating so she needs a tune.
I bought the first ryzen 5 when it came out 4-5 years ago with crossfire rx 570s😂 it still holds up, except for the support part.
@edmunds tomsons I saved up a few hundred to buy the whole pc now the gpu costs more than I bought it for, But its fun to mess around with it so I keep it around.
@@Charles-qk4pz just sell it the messing around is not worth it
I’d really like you to review mining on older pc parts and seeing what they can do
Be a good video
Alot better than the sempron you recently tested 😁