The AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ from 2008
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This CPU pulled me back to PC gaming from my Gamecube. It was good to be back!
Same :-).
I'm glad you're doing the balance with your life and youtube, once a fortnight is totally fine for me, and it will give you plenty of extra time to come up with cool project ideas, rather than the whole approach of fighting the algorithm
would you believe it I have this CPU just to play Crysis and Arma 2.. oh boy those were the days.
Voodoo build on Nforce? what weirdo build you needed? The days of crap!!!!
Crysis on origin, RTX support!
@@lucasrem Don't knock the voodoo on nforce, lol
@@davkdavk I have a old pc that has a amd athlon 64X2 and it shows it has nvidia graphics called GeForce Nforce
idk what the Nforce thing mean I can see a GPU is the Nforce integrated graphics ?
@@joemammaobama887 it's a southbridge chip which connects the ram and pci/agp slots to the cpu
I ended up going from an Athlon XP Barton cpu (I forget which model offhand) to a Core 2 Duo E8400 after I got a good job at the time and was able to afford a nice upgrade. I was jealous of some friends that had Athlon 64 and 64 X2s in between. Good memories and good games! Yours is my favorite RUclips channel. Make as many or as few videos as you can enjoy making, just don't stop!
Still have my E8400 around, it's a good chip and served me for years.
Got a similar AM2 board (with, alas, an nForce chipset) for free. Has been lying fallow for a few years but I might kick it back into life after viewing this.
And thanks for the informal update about how you view the channel, Phil. Naturally I’d like to see more content from you but even more that you stay a “happy camper“ and do it less frequently, i.e. at a pace that suits you, thanks to which we also get to enjoy your enthusiasm as well as your tech knowledge. Mach’s gut und mach weiter so!
Thank you ☺️
keep yourself sane, phil. you are one of the greatest underdogs among tech youtubers. I like you so much for this.
My old CPU! Still running Windows 10 on it with my 8800 GTX !
DX10 in Windows 10, muhahahahahahaha.....
I still have this CPU...
@@forevercomputing please upgrade. A ryzen 3000g is below 50 bucks
@@JudeTheRUclipsPoopersubscribe I said, "still have" not "still use" ;)
@@forevercomputing thank god
Still rocking the 4000+ as Linux office PC and for legacy windows 7 software that doesn't work on Windows 10.
That rocks, its cool to hear stories like that about old hardware
Picchio Knossus
Software, what can't you run on Windows now? Office, Unix? How smart are you running native apps?
How are motherboard caps faring after 14 years? Just curious.
@@lucasrem sorry I totally missed the notification. Some scanner and printers don't work any more on Windows 2004... That is why I keep a Windows 7 machine for offline use. I'm sorry I don't understand your last question, what do you mean by being smart running native applications?
@@RoyBasty hi. I've recapped an athlon xp board and and athlon 64 board a couple of years ago... On the other hand the athlon x2 caps are still working OK. Once I a while I take a close look at the board to spot bulged caps but so far no maintenance was required. ;)
Eyy i have a 5200+ in my retro rig. Nice to see someone cover amd's high end from that time period.
I'm actually still using this cpu, with 6gb ddr2 in dual channel (2*2+2*1). Had to go with that configuration due to chipset limitations of 8gb max (including the gpu!) , a Gt 430 1gb 128bit model, and running win 10. It's in a dell c521 sff. The bios doesn't officially support it so it just shows up as an unknown amd cpu in sys info, though cpuz sees it fine. It could really use an ssd. It handles modern streaming HD ok.
DUDE! I used to have one of those! BTX Form Factor!
I'm using a Phenom II x4 955. I have 12 gigs of Ram and a cheap Nvidia GT 720 card.
I've got a Ecs ic780m-a 2.0 and a phenom ii quad, I may switch over to that once I get a case... Also have a modded hd 8570 card with a massive cooler on it. It can run without a fan, with a fan it's able to overclock a bit... Though I need ram for it too. I'd like to try a phenom ii x6
A friend had a 6000+ which I got sitting around now and it worked okay with a HD 7770. Something like a RX 550 or GT 1030 could be fine with that chip. managable power draw, hardware acceleration for videos and stuff and even able to play games.
Have been watching you since 12k subs from back in 2017 , glad to see you grow and reach 100k
Thank you, that means a lot to me :D I picked up the play button from the post office today :D
NIce assessment. good to see the old stuff running so nicely. I just might build something like this.
Back in 2008 I had an Athlon X3 435 with an HD5850. I loved that machine and the games I played on it. NWN1, NWN2, KOTOR1, KOTOR2, Dragon Age: Origins, Half Life 2, Assassin's Creed and Mass Effect. Fond Memories. I'm now putting together a windows xp retro pc with a GTX 960 that I bought for 50 dollars and other random old parts I have.
You couldn't have, newest Lineup at the end of 2008 was the Radeon HD 4000 series with 4850s selling like bread. 5000 series SKUs came out between late 2009 and early 2010.
I still have my 6400+ from my gaming pc back in the day that thing was a beast!
I had this CPU back in 2007 or so, paired with an Asus M2N SLI Deluxe. Used it for a long time until I replaced it with an i7 920.
i've recently picked up one of those asus m2n sli deluxe boards - real nice! i have the X2 4800+ in it at the moment but i have an Athlon II X2 255 that came in the mail last few weeks which will hopefully work even better. and a barely used geforce 9800 GTX+ pushing the pixels :) great pc for doom 3 and quake 4!
two years isnt that long tho
I still have that same combo as well, must have been very popular.
I had that board with a 3800+. Also kept it for a long time, replaced it with a Sandy Bridge machine!
Niiiiice taste 👍 I had the same mobo. As SOON as Asus dropped the M2N SLI Deluxe I bought it to pair with my X2 6400+ Black Edition and my GeForce 8800 ULTRA.
A couple years ago someone gave me a HP prebuilt with a Athelon X2 4800. I added 4 gigs of RAM and a GT 440 to it. It plays all my Windows XP games and some indie titles with ease.
I bought an HP with the X2 4600 prebuilt on clearance about 2005. I added a big heat sink and fan, and a Radeon 5200. I got it to run at 3.0Ghz, and it was insanely fast!
@@5roundsrapid263 Nice! The Athelon X2 is a great XP platform.
Hey Phil just glad to have another video because you and videos are helpful and really awesome to watch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow! What nostalgia trip. I had the Windsor 5600+ and the predecessor of your motherboard, the K9A Platinum with the same XMS2 RAM. Bought those with my hard earned allowance. Fun video!
Oh I have this cpu and Athlon 64 X2 6400+ Black Edition. The 6000+ was inside my brother old computer with MSI K9N SLi-2F motherboard. Nice video like always Phil.
I used a 6400+ as my main machine for years, talk about a hot CPU, I had to buy a gigantic cooler to keep it cool enough in summer (in fact the same cooler still cools my overclocked X5650 without issuse).
125W TDP at a time when even the beefiest Pentium 4 came as 115W package, and most coolers would be setup for the common 89-95W chips.
Which reminds me of my 'Xeon X5460, which does fine with a Hyper 212 EVO even when overclocked. Something like that would've been nice in the day.
I still have it. And works fine
3:20. Huh. I kept wondering why my PC with a 6000+ was showing slower memory speeds. Now I finally know :)
Excellent video Phil! Nostalgia is strong with this one!! I also have a Athlon 64 X2 6000 based machine but I used an Abit fatality AN9 32X motherboard and got no problems whatsoever! It runs XP on an SATA SSD just fine.
Nostalgia is life!
I was never able to mess around with tech at a young age, so I was never really exposed to these processors! Kind of cool to see how much has changed 😅
and thanks for the tip about the cpu cooler
It's selling for $22 on ebay, and I'm gonna grab one or two for the future, since finding OEM processors is easier and cheaper than boxed
Still have my old x2 4800+ with A8N-SLI motherboard, no longer running 2x 6800GT but I'm never throwing it away! :D great gaming memories and an awesome retro build now. Thanks for this!
In a recent video I had heaps of issues with Nvidia chipsets, so I was glad to use this one and it worked flawless!
@@philscomputerlab oh no man I missed that one :o will rewatch! Before that nForce4 build I had an nForce2 2600+ system, both had driver quirks and I did have tons of issues getting SLi running smooth but once I got there, both felt like a rocksolid gaming platforms.
Sadly a lot of mobos from those gens suffered capacitor issues later on :( will check if you ran into same issues.
PS: I distinctly remember that 2600+ with 9800pro often giving a housemate's P4 3Ghz w/ an FX5900Ultra a run for its money 😁
Man I wanted that chip so badly back in the day!
I am perfectly happy with my 6000+, it's used in my vista gaming PC!
WOW! I had one with a 8800GT! It was a BEAST at time.
I put together an XP machine only this weekend myself.
My XFX nForce 780i SLI motherboard seemed to have died at some point during the last 10 years it was in storage.
@PhilsComputerLab - What monitor do you use that can reach 1600x1200 that works on Windows XP?
I'm trying to get my ASUS PG279Q to work correctly, but the drivers won't install, so my XP machine sees it as a TV, and will only do 1280x720p.
Try a Radeon card, it's often better with XP. Also, try VGA instead of DVI, I remember one monitor that did 1600x1200 over VGA, but not DVI.
Thanks for the suggestions! :)
I don't have a Radeon card at hand to try with - also, my ASUS monitor only has DisplayPort and HDMI. I can live with it being 720p.
I also still have my ~12 year old VGA monitor that does 1440x900, but the panel is garbage of course!
For XP it might almost be worth getting one of those 1680x1050 TFTs, they started being popular while XP was still alive and kicking and 16:10 is often easier to setup with older games than 16:9.
Or with nvidia cards setup a custom resolution in the control panel. I've been doing that for over a decade, even back then with CRTs. Doing 1600x1200x80 or 2048x1536x60 is a sight to behold.
I think it's purely a driver issue between the PG279Q monitor and Windows XP.
The OS simply won't load the driver properly, even though it will install it.
@@philscomputerlab
Meanwhile intels compiler....
Im getting closer to building a rather complete library of whats doing what. Is my studio going to beat your lab to it?
Im a little worried you dont care if that K8 is being screwed out of SSE3.
I have begun to really like your retro projects.
I miss EAX :(
Me also :)
I don't, coz I still have it on my daily system :D
Sound blaster still exists, and still does eax support for old games. New games get virtual surround and its light-years netter than most onboard/motherboard solutions.
A nice XP machine with EAX to play F.E.A.R, that is something you just don't get nowadays.
Ahaha great video Phil, nice disclaimer there. Don't worry though, we want more because we like what you do. Keep it up buddy, no pressure. 🙏
I recently acquired an early 2010s PC from a coworker who was cleaning out their storage unit. It came with an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ that I look forward to playing around with in the near future. Also I totally agree with you regarding the graphite thermal pads. Such a time and mess saver! Keep up the videos at your own pace! I love seeing them!
Nice video as always... i preferred the x79 video series, but still: Great enterteinement in your channel
Hmm not sure what else to cover with X79 :) Any ideas?
@@philscomputerlab Windows xp on x79 + gtx 980 maybe if you have one
nice suggestion from other users, but maybe, if you have the chance, try the best x79 cpu ever... i think the 2697v2 or the 2696v2.
I really look after such review... ;)
great job man btw!
@@carlolalattacosterbosa5821 sadly quite expensive but 12 cores on lga 2011 sounds pretty cool. however i think for gaming its not the best cpu because of the low clock speed. i guess an i7 4930k or similar would perform better there, especially when overclocked.
@@talvisota327 yes, you are right bro... just saying ;) keep going with your channel, i like it's growing every time i check for new content !
4:18 Those capacitors are driving me nuts. Especially the one in the row...
Its a MSI thing. My Socker 462 board looks messier.
Seeing these videos is therapy for me for sure but also seeing all I want that I don't have it is killer. Having the latest and greatest thing isn't what it is all about. I made a new build but it would be nice if locally more options for older gaming would show up. : S Thanks for another great retro vid Phil. PS: Yes I darn well need to just get to buying from aliexpress and other places as I think I have complained about local selling enough under videos. LOL!
I can relate! I have more enjoyment with an old computer, that I've upgraded with a few little tweaks :)
Man, the 5600+ Windsor was the first PC I built and at its peak even ran HD2600XTs on Crossfire. And yes it ran Crysis! Good times!
Oh wow. This is very similar to the retro PC I made at the beginning of this year. My 6000 is the 125W part and I have an X-Fi Xtreme. I found a cheap Asus motherboard on eBay with nVidia chipset, but all seems OK, for now. Having said that, I did have issues with the suggested drivers, and had to use drivers from a different board. I found a gorgeous Lian Li PC-P50 Armorsuit Computer Case for the build and installed a PCIe USB 3.0 add in card with front panel for quality of life. I'm really happy with how it turned out.
Such a great channel, content, quality. And still you’ve got 100k subs. I don’t get it.
Old builds are fun. may take some inspiration from you and build one too as i have plenty parts laying around!
Remember dreaming about this cpu when i had the Athlon 64 X2 3800+
Thanks for the video ! I use this CPU to run my windows 2000 machine, with an nforce 430 motherboard, 4*1GB ram, quadro fx4500, two WD raptor in raid0... Definitely an overkill for the old os
I went with the 6400+ black edition for my build a couple years ago because I figured that would be the hardest to find and far more expensive/collectible. I don't even see those for sale anymore.
I got mine from AliExpress I believe... But yea, the top model is always going to attract a nice premium and will be harder to find.
I, too, have found AMD chipsets of the era to be superior to their nvidia counterparts, stability wise. AM2 was a great platform, but 775 was just spectacular.
The nvidia chipsets were only good for running SLI. on LGA775 Intel chipsets where the thing to go with, be it 965, P35 or P45. Decent overclocking boards that were affordable and could easily run every chip to it's maximum.
Actually from a chipset perspective it was awful. There were more than 40 chipsets available from Intel, Nvidia, ati, sis and via, and they had massive variations in the Northbridge - Southbridge variations.
I even made a massive LGA775 chipset chart so I get some overview over what can do what.
and actually it was never bad to stick with Intel chipsets for Intel CPUs. if you wanted sli, nvidia was a must, and for some older platforms, via had some decent features (like 1.5 gb ram on a socket 379 board with 133 mhz FSB support)
I used to own the 4800+ from this platform, clocked at 3ghz, same as the 6000+ stock. It was my first dual core cpu, but man it was slow. I remember playing Dragon Age 1 on it, paired with 4Gb of ram and HD4870 and the performance was horrible. My fps doubled after switching to 775 platform with a C2D E6750@3.2ghz and the same HD4870. Wasn't the best cpu but I would love to see a build based on an Athlon X2 cpu paired with an AGP slot mb from the s939/am2 era and the rare Radeon HD3850 Agp. It would probably be one of the best AGP builds.
Simply love to see a new video from you dude! I could use a little help though... when you tell us the bench mark scores I have no idea if they are great, Fair to middling or just down right piss-poor! Help a brother out with some comparisons would be great!
Please take your time with new videos. The most important thing is that you don't feel any pressure to deliver anything. :)
As I mentioned under another video of yours, I picked up an MSI K9A2 Platinum (a really high-end MB back then) with Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (Brisbane, the "October 8, 2007" one at 0:31) from a dumpster in the neighborhood. It runs WinXP without a hitch; the only minor drawback is having only one strip of 1GB DDR2 and I don't have spare DDR2 DIMM lying around. A week later a friend of mine learned this and sent me his retired unit: not just spare DDR2 DIMM but a Gigabyte GA-P31-ES3G with Core 2 Duo E7400, along with 2x2GB DDR2 and a SB X-Fi! Coupled with SSD, the time from POST to XP desktop takes only 7 seconds, something I've never experienced during my XP "decade" i.e. using XP as my main OS from April 2003 to March 2013.
Still looking for a nice, if not luxurious, restaurant to thank him as he asked no money but only a meal in return.
Great video , I just suggest u put the game title in every section in upcoming videos :)
I still have this CPU somewhere. I used it for a LOOOONG time. Overclocks really well but OH MAN that power usage shoots way up with every 100MHz. Still held me over until Phenom II X4 series. Had some great times with this CPU over all.
Eax makes my ear duct cleared Thank you for letting me know it clearly♡
Very nice build! I have the same hobby like you and I know what you are talking about. :-D
My XP retro machine is based on an Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 currently in combination with a old Geforce 7800 GT. This GPU is sure a bottleneck but the system was build only from parts that were not used anymore. I will "upgrade" it soon with a GTX 650 that is used in my daughters computer.
Thanks for your videos! It is always a pleasure to watch them. It brings new ideas to me as well. (y)
I got the Windsor version in 2007, and used it with an Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe board with 4GB for a while, before upgrading to a Phenom II 955, then ultimately moving back to Intel with an i7 950 due to the awfulness of Bulldozer. The awfulness of the Pentium 4 was why I went from a Pentium III to an Athlon XP several years prior.
Back to AMD now with a Threadripper 2950X. Still have the Athlon 64 X2 6000+, though. Pulled it off the shelf in a closet to take the heat sink off and see which model it was. I never sell or throw away my old PC hardware.
i was having crap issues with an nforce 4 board but a bios update fixed it all. improved the fps in all games as well as stopped it from crashing every 2 minutes lol. it also allowed ide compatibility mode for the SSD so i could skip over using the ide->sata adapter. unfortunate you werent as lucky! great vid, love these xp builds. cheers phil!
Yea I always flash the BIOS...
I still have this CPU, bought it for 113+ USD, but as I don't have any motherboard, its just sitting in my collection.
Love this CPU, very fast in those days, and ran demanding games pairing with HD4850, another very good card.
Even I used almost the same mainboard, the MSI K9AGM3. also was a good mainboard.
I had one of these CPUs. It used to heat my flat in winter. I got so many years use out of it, upgraded to a i5 6600 system.
I remember the nightmares with nforce 6150/6100 and 430SB chipsets!
Sudden death was very Real.
I have the Windsor variant of this CPU in my XP gaming rig, but paired with a HD7870. It runs beautifully, but the CPUs stock cooler that it came with back in the day is like a hairdryer after some gaming. The cooler you use in the video, is it from a Ryzen?
Always a pleasure to get good advice of WinXP era hardware.
While I do have a WinXP laptop going on, I really do want a desktop.
I could use my current away-from-home budget machine (I live in one place, work another - travels are long and far) which is a Sandy-bridge with GTX 660, but I have considered a smaller/cheaper option as an experiment. Sandy bridge again, but instead of i5-2400, I'd use a Pentium G620 or even a i3-2120.
I basically just need a mobo, cheap ssd, case and psu.
Rest I already have. (i3-2120, 2x2GB DDR3-1033, HD7770, 320GB -1TB HDD for storage)
Next year?
'Cause for Xmas I am getting the Ryzen 5 3600 for my main. xD
What a flashback. Ran this on a Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe with an AMD 6400+ Black Edition with an Nvidia 7950GT. Exact same brand of ram as well!
Nice! The 7950GT is a really nice card....
PhilsComputerLab To this day, it’s still running, somehow...
I upgraded to this CPU recently.
Hi Phil, another good video.
Re the SSD, under XP it may or may not be a issued, but at the end of the day it is not a old mechanical IDE that is worth $$$ if still functional with no bad sectors, at the current AU price of $40 for 256/512 G, even as a daily driver with lots of swap file read write etc ( best to turn of memory swap and disc caching and index service anyway to minimize read / write cycles )
Even if it runs for 5 years and dies, a new SSD is required, will be cheaper or similar $$$ and more capacity, reinstall the o/s and go for another 5/10 years - it will become a consumable just like floppies or CMOS battery
Regards
George
G'day Phil,
very cool build, my oldest AMD CPU is an AMD Athlon II X4 640 which out lived a ASRock AM3 & then a GA-970A-D3P, I think the Powerdraw for the 4.5GHZ OC was too much for the 970A-D3P VRM as it went POP 😮, I now have a GA-78LMT-USB3 & the Athlon II still works but can't get a stable OC of any kind,
As for Older AMD or Intel Platform Motherboards I am a fan of Gigabyte, they have all the Drivers & BIOS on their website & haven't had any issues (other than my silly OC) with performance or compatibility,
I am really interested in a EAX Audio Card, which one/ones would you recommend for XP that are a decent price for us here in Australia?
I have a empty PCI & PCIe x4 slot empty on my GA-G33M-S2 motherboard so a card with either connector would be fine.
really nice video, as always! I hoped you had the opportunity to test the fastest xeon x79 ever made (e5 2696 v2, i think).
YOU HAVE ONE OF THE BEST CHANNELS HERE ON RUclips!
Hey Phill amazing video, you speak the truth for months I have struggling to make an msi 775 with nvidia chipset to work and know only god knows why it bricked itself, just one day I turned on and the BIOS was fkd. Now I precisely moved to am2 and zero issues is a bliss, I use the gt 9600 and everything runs fairly. Well thank you for the great content you made
Awesome build, I remember building my first dual channel with that exact CPU and board. Particularly chose it since it had DVI and was into using integrated graphics. Speaking of which, if you can find a BioStar A10N-9630 I'd love to see a review on it. Looks like a cheap way to get a nice DDR4 platform.
Cool and Quiet is known to cause issues. I always disabled it in bios. Just be aware that it doesn't work on all boards the way they intended.
Nice video! Why don't you build a Windows 98 gaming pc on AM2 motherboard with AGP? Like MSI K9MM-V or Biostar K8M800 Micro. This motherboards has full support for this OS.
I still have my first dual core pc which is a AMD 4600+ x2 on the socket 939 platform.My 1 memory module blew last month and don't have any spare laying around so it only has 1gb ram in.It's running windows 7 for now but i wanted to run android on it unfortunately the hardwares to old so it won't even start as it has no drivers in the kernel so maybe i install windows xp as don't need more than 1gb ram then
XP will run fine on 1 GB, 7 not so much. Still doesn't hurt to max it out and go for 4 GB, even for XP. 1 GB DDR2- 800 stiicks are cheap now, way cheaper than 2 GB modules.
Hey man i saw your vid about the Yeston RX550 and i bought one, sadly i got the 512 version not the 648 version and also great vid!
Wow I wasn't aware there is a 512 version...
@@philscomputerlab the architecture is Lexa PRO instead of Polaris 21
Hi again. Is there any performance difference between the Windsor and the Brisbane versions? Apart from the 100MHz boost. Thanks again, I love your videos.
I liked the video. Now do an AMD Thunderbird build and bridge it with a pencil to unlock it. Haha memories.
Graphics really looked good Phil. 👍
the AMD 6000+(I had the 3.0Ghz 2mb L2 Cache version) was a great cpu for its time!! used mine till 2010 till I upgraded to a i5 750.
I've since ordered the older version, with larger Cache :D
@@philscomputerlab Nice hope to see you maybe test that one aswell, See if the 100mhz deficit But 1Mb more L2 cache has any Tangable Perormance Differance.
I had the AMD X2 6400+ Black Edition. Dual core 3.2GHz. It was a monster. I paired it with a GeForce 8800 ULTRA. The first game I played on that card was Bioshock. The first game designed WITH DirectX 10 engineering. The water looked so incredible if you had an actual DirectX 10 card.
Anyways, these were great days for AMD. The days when Athlon was the high-end desktop chip were great. Now Athlon means budget 😑
Fun fact the compaq sr2010nx with the common Asus A8M2N-LA would only support Windsor core 6000+ and the 125w 6400+ although they show up as an unknown processor the clock speed is correct. Brisbane fails to boot completely. I won the lottery on ebay 10 years ago
I got a 6000+, I use it every now and then. Turning it into a retro PC sounds good
ah ye, good old times :D
I were young, had time to play gamez, world was not so crazy and I had like 0 moneyz
The perfect combo, all the time to play games and no money to buy them with
I got that same chip!!!, and I'm in the lookout for a reliable motherboard replacement, what would you recommend?
This is the cpu I upgraded my dad's optiplex 740 (non-enhanced version) with, only thing I can say is that it still works! Might need to upgraded his pc now after watching this video.
I'm building a similar system with the same CPU, but I'm worried about the power draw. I'm planning to use a branded but non-certified PSU. Does this CPU demand a high quality PSU? I rather save a certified PSU for a more modern system. Thank you! Great video.
I had/have a X2 5200+. It was very inexpensive and lasted for a long time, just like Windows XP did, well into the release of Windows 7. May I ask, what kind of setup do you personally use to play Windows XP era games, do you have a dedicated setup for those games?
yeah nVidia nforce = problem - from the old days is cemented in my brain too.
mine too :D
I was building and selling pcs back then, I had a few of these cpus, they were great. Also I had a nforce 4 evga board back in the day, damn pci-e 1x slot caught on fire.
To me it feels like this doesn't offer much compared to a low-end AM3, but adds a chore of dealing with one more memory type. I was so glad to finally get rid of everything DDR2 (boards and RAM). For building an AGP-era PC will keep my SDRAM or even DDR1 platforms, but for PCI-E might as well go straight to DDR3.
Yea that makes sense :)
I had an Asus P5N32 SLI SE Deluxe die on me recently, which has the nForce chipset. Good to know that it's a common thing and to avoid that combo in the future. Managed to get a good replacement board soon after, so my XP machine was not dead for long :)
I've had this Mobo. First it was paired with a 3200+ single core CPU, then got replaced with 6000+. I've had this running with a 7300GT GPU, with later got replaced to a 9800GT to match the new CPU. These were good times...
Its short past the mighty Voodoo 5 5500´s 20th birthday, will you make a video?
I wasn't aware... Maybe?
@@philscomputerlab wasnt it released June 2000? And the Voodoo 4 4500 October 2000? As far as i know.... maybe you can make a VSA100 Video and also include some infos about the V5 6000..
Are you kidding me - just ordered this exact CPU for one of my retro PCs just yesterday, what a coincidence.
Nice! What system are you going to use it with?
I had multiple HDD's fail me in the last 15 years. But for the last 7 years no SSD has failed me yet. Some HDDs even failed after just 4 years. So I am rather optimistic about SSD's. But like Phil said, logic dictates to not fill their capacity completely, so that data that is partially in danger of being damaged can be swapped to other cells.
..but did you ever "drop 'em"!?? The moving drives I mean?
I had a need for a modern-ish motherboard with 64-bit CPU support, PCI-Express and a floppy controller that supports all popular species of drives and the NVIDIA nForce chipsets with Socket AM2 looked like good options; over three months, three of these boards arrived DOA (one wouldn't power on and two wouldn't POST despite multiple CPUs, RAM sets and GPUs). Finally, I gave up and ordered a Socket 939 board with a VIA chipset, which just works perfectly.
Still using it (the 2x1MB 90nm version) in my retro system with Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA (AM2 NF3 board with AGP) paired with 4GB DDR2 & HD 3850. Perfect WinXP gaming rig.
i have the same board, too bad its impossible to run win 7 and newer on it
Phil, i found a potentially interesting trick you might find interesting.
Wrappers intended to bring back eax can have xp compatibility. Dsoal has had nice results for me. This might add eax to other soundcards. Ill be using it to try and get eax 4 out of the ymf744 on Windows XP.
That is pretty similiar to my XP machine. I use the SLI version of that same board, a 6400+ and - just because I can - 9800 GT's in SLI :) I tried GTXes and even 260 GTA's but they were all running hot and lout and unpleasant. Also it's all beautiful and MSI-red in there. I had to cool the northbridge though, it ran quite hot.
MSI red :D
There's 260 with non-stock cooler.
2 8800 ultras or you are both doing it very wrong.
@@philscomputerlab You got a core 2 lying around?
Theres a secret with intels compiler and what ive read, SSE3 being switched off in AMD from that era.
Its super easy to prove. It applies to game applications. Not just math libraries for scientists.
Makes me wonder if that was the secret sauce for why Athlon XP and 64 were such beasts until our off die memory controller contender came along, sort of like ryzen, but with a sauce so hush hush, it was hidden in plain sight for years but only now are people starting to talk about it in very polite terms about intels im guessing 10 year plus old accident. Id like to know however, just how far back this little game goes.
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Ive witnessed the results firsthand. Its no legend. You can visual studios patch the application to use intels path. Its wild because its sort of rare to experience things without the limitation in a CPU with superior IPC to intel even today as of Zen 2. In some cases its like one small step for man level stuff. Like who raytraces StarCraft 2? Raytracing is a retro gaming revolution.
If you are going back in time, match the hardware. Whats that Maxwell first gen trash you got in there for. If you are going to get a modern card to raytrace, you might also want to just dip on the, its an old CPU idea, as there will be some additional overhead injecting raytracing technologies. Trust me, its fucking wickedly cool to make ancient experiences look superior. Like im playing them over again for the first time, in some cases it being so ridiculously better.
Back in the days I was planning on getting one of these. Then the seller offered me a special price for a specific Intel + mobo + gpu + games bundle and I've ended up with a dual core E5200.
Yay! It's a Friday video.
Hope you enjoyed it!
I had an Athlon 64 x2 6000+! But it was an earlier version, with 2MB L2 cache and 3.0GHz clock.
My ASUS A8N SLI Deluxe socket 939 is an nForce 4 board. Maybe for the 939 platform they are solid? Curious if nForce boards were troublesome for you on other builds/generation CPUs as well.
So many memories watching this videos -- times when AMD was INTEL
I have got a NForce 2 Ultra MOBO and It's rock solid, NForce 3 too, and NForce 4 Ultra... no comment about capacitors