Have You Noticed Everyone Only Plays Old Games?
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- Опубликовано: 10 апр 2024
- Why gamers reject modern games. When was the last time you played a title that came out in 2024?.. what about 2023?
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1. cheaper
2. more accessible
3. years' worth of enjoyment
Well said. Back then games were games. Now they are real world bullshit.
Also years’ worth of patches to make sure it isn’t a buggy rushed shitshow like most games released nowadays
@@Lazydino59 sure, the patches also matter, but I mean, did retro games even have patches?
100% this
I wouldn't say this is true. I do play "new games" when they come out.
But they are mostly from Indie teams full of passion and void of _" The Message "_ as the *Critical Drinker* would say.
Older games are a threat to the current industry. They represent a standard of quality that the current industry refuses to meet or prioritize. This why they assault the ownership of games bought by the consumer.
No they arent. This video has an identity crisis, and is making a point of a nothing burger. Its literally all live service games that have been taken good care of over the years, and then theres some nintendo games.
Refuses, or perhaps, and/or can’t?
Maybe modern devs just don’t have the knowledge or intellectual capacity to make games good?
The amount of spaghetti code and code copypasted from wikis and lack of studio independent engines, a major aspect of older games, certainly speaks ill of the capabilities of the programmers. And the incompetence of the rest of team, well there’s probably thousands of videos covering that now.
@@ironboundfateYou completely fail to see the bigger picture. Game companies know old games are a threat to new games, a lot of them can't compete on quality anymore. You have to look where things are trending. Games requiring an internet connection, requiring you to be always online, requiring an account with their shitty site, Denuvo, content they can deprecate on a whim, limited number of installs... It's like Todd Howard bursting down your door and taking Skyrim off your shelf because he knows you aren't buying Starfailed.
Same with everything you can buy today. They can't make things to last or you'd never have reason to buy another.
Erase quality standards. If the new generation doesn't know how well made games once were, they will get used to whatever crap the modern industry sells to them.
I'm tired of gaming companies releasing unfinished games. Then they add microtransactions and DLCs a few months later when that content should've been there in the first place.
A few months later? How about those that have DLC available on release?
Name checks out
Back when u bought a ACTUAL COMPLETE GAME .
Most of the newer games just feel like worse version of something i already played before.
Lol yup. Stripped down experiences with mtx storefronts thrown in your face
@@TheForbiddenOne55 Yep, even the “one save slot unless you buy more” thing Metal Gear Survive pulled is back again.
Hell, even fast travel and character respec is a Mtx in Dragons Dogma 2.
the popularity of "old school" versions or HD remasters of old JRPGs is a clear example of that sentiment amongst players
@Virtualblueart tell me you've never played dragons dogma without telling me smh you just believe anything people tell you on the internet huh? Lmao
I simply like older games too. Some new ones, but often, I find myself playing indies or AA. But I really love games like Galaga or PAC-MAN. Even more obscure ones, like Mappy are fun on a rainy day.
Most of the time, older games respect our time far more then any modern live service.
modern day games try to capture you. So you grind and play all day, and whenever a bit of frustration is sprinkled in you are close to the shop button
And some games just don’t need a replacement. I’ve played rocket league for years. Nothing that comes out that is similar will get any traction. Why would I ever play Different league. The game play is great, anything worth me trying out would have to be so different it’s not even a direct competitor.
The closest thing I could think of would be a game like Twisted Metal, but that’s not even the same genre. It’s battling with cars not sports and acrobatics with cars.
They respect our wallets too
@@actuallyKriminell I like it when games capture me. Through immersion that is.
And they don't require a $2000 video card
Perfect example is WWF No Mercy vs any new WWE game. Back then it was a blast playing the game to unlock all the customizable content, new arenas, wrestlers etc. now you pay 70 bucks and they hide half the roster behind a season pass and other bs.
No Mercy was amazing. Played that game for hours on end
Dude, I still jump into that game from time to time. It's one of the few reasons I still have my N64.
The best part was being able to have title fights with your mates...
Had many a great evening with custom wrestlers battling it out for bragging rights.
You're right. They disrespect the younger generation by treating you like this. Reward good behavior by supporting developing companies that won't paywall block you.
Duuuuuude me and my brother fucking loved No Mercy.
Warcraft 3, Age Of Empires, Starcraft, Rise of Nations. I mean, cmon.
@@tigerden1908 I still play it to this day. An incredible game
Empire Earth 1-2, Command & Conquer games
@@tigerden1908 Starcraft 2, Age of Empires IV, Warcraft 3 remastered, NorthGard
@NeonBearClaw it's Reforged... 😢
@@iamwhoiam7887 Well, yeah. Semantics.
It’s because old games aren’t worried about NPC skin texture technology. But they focus on actual gameplay mechanics. Devs have become technology enthusiasts vs game developers.
Mines fortnight
Great games will maximize both.
@djtoxicdhg fortnight is really an odd one out because "old game" implies that the games are much older and usually the assumption they stopped getting big updates and usually just recieve small ones. Fortnight hasn't even been out for a full 6 years yet.
Skins seem like a pretty big focus for fortnite actually
I think of a million games released in the last couple years that are a way better time investment than Fortnite
In Eastern Europe people still play Counter Strike 1.6 and servers are full.
Still playing in 2024 😁 I love zombie maps 😁
With rtx 4090
@@ketsi3079 Why settle for anything sub 2500 fps these days I mean honestly
They're playing irl counterstrike now
@@dougler500 but refuse to pay 70$ game
Oh thank god, I thought it was only me. I've been playing classic games like Red Alert 2, Burnout 3, NFS Most Wanted (2005), Vigilante 8 & Twisted Metal nowadays. It's the charm of old games that brings enjoyment to me that modern games don't replicate, imo.
Red alert 2 still slaps. Just sucks to use ea launcher lol
@@scottyboatright4615 I use CNCNet as my main way to play the game now. Works well on modern system.
Just wait until your Skyrim phase starts again.
80% of Disney plus content consumed is old stuff too. It's unsurprising and to be expected. The only reason historically people tended towards to always playing new video games is because the technology rendered the older games obsolete / unplayable.
Nah, because new games used to be good in much the same ways that old games were just with better tech, when they were new, historically. But that is not the case anymore. Now it's all tech and profit maximization at the EXPENSE of gameplay, writing, etc. Because the big corporate side of the gaming industry have discovered they can make a lot more money basically grifting and psychologically manipulating gamers than they can by actually making great games.
1:Complete experience
2:Focused more on gameplay
3:Usually optimized through time.
4:cheaper to buy
5:Many have no store, or items to pruchase of any meaningful value.
Wow that really sounds like fortnite. You know the game thats shown to be the most played old game on this list
@@im1085 lmfao. when i opened this i thought actual old games from 90s and early 2000s not these shit games how is gta v old? didnt that come out like 3 4 years ago?
Well i mean 2013 is pretty long ago @BG1435q
@@BG1435qhate to break this to you, gta 5 is over a decade old.
@@andrewb138 bro don't tell him that he's about to age fifty years from that statement alone!
Don’t want to pay $70 for an unfinished base game they intentionally removed content from so they can sell it to you for an extra $30-50 in the Deluxe Golden Complete Premium Diamond Special Platinum Collection with ‘half-day’ early access and a “special mission” and “exclusive skin” both of which will inevitably be re-available in the 3rd Season of the Battle Pass (which you’ll have to spend another $10-30 on, depending if you get the normal or Elite Pass), forced to buy gems/credits/etc from their fully-working-at-launch shop to get the items I need to ACTUALLY play the game rather than spend hours grinding enough materials so I don’t immediately run out of stuff in the first mission, then pay more for DLCs which add the other intentionally removed content that should’ve been in the base game to make it fun.
This just about covers it! Truth!
I thought of Overwatch when reading your comment God I hate what's become of that game.
@@TheUnseenKrab i thought of diablo 4.
but i guess thats just blizzard
Yeah another thing is that "skins" don't exist anymore in games. You get very "common" skins, like for example turning gun/uniform light blue or something. All to entice you to buy the big skins for 2.99 (Or in the case of Warcraft, 30 dollars). The smaller skins you get are more common and only there to entice you to buy the pretty skins. There is no more "Do these challenges and unlock the Harlequin suit" or something.
There should be also unskippable ads lecturing about you beeing previleged to play this game. Japan and Korea save us from western gaming cancer...
I wish Steam on the store page for games as well as on steam charts tracked the average amount of hours in games based on people who own it, as well as the total number of hours put into said games of all players combined. That would be a real way of showing what games truly see play and how much.
i get that but they would never, ever release that information because it directly informs their sales and pricing models
1. If I want to throw away my money, I have a perfectly functional trash can, furnace & toilet at home. There's no point for me to think up an elaborate scheme to get rid of it.
2. If I want to throw away my time, I could always just walk in a circle outside of the house and I'm sure it'd be more fun than a lot of those time-waste simulators. And I'd get some exercise, which is a tangible benefit.
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They have nothing to offer & grab at both my money and my lifespan, so I have no use for them.
Meanwhile, there's still tons of old games I haven't played. The backlog is pretty large.
I dont want to buy the $120 preorder ultimate gold premium delux edition and buy a season pass, a subscription, and extra $60 dlc for an unfinished/bad game that will die next weekend
I remember when a GOTY version of a game came automatically with everything the game had to offer. Usually in the used section for $20.
But people are willing to upgrade 2000$ GPU every 1-2 years
@ketsi3079 thing is, most gamers resell cards before their 2nd hand value falls to much. Last time I sold a 970 for 200 bucks, bought a 2070 for 300 from zotac with a Newegg coupon. Now that nvidia has inflated msrp to insane levels that may not happen as often anymore.
@@ketsi3079who the fuck in their right mind upgrades a gpu for that much every 1-2 years. For less than 2000 dollars you would have bought a 2080 TI in 2018 and its still better than a 3070 TI by a small margin. Thats 6 years.. Same goes for other GPUs of its caliber, nowadays. They will last for 3-4 years if not more depending on your needs.
@@eliaslabanpeople with money lol
You can usually get 9/10 games for dirt cheap. They won't all be triple A titles, but a lot of games that came out years ago could slap the shit out of new titles today.
I got Days Past for 9 bucks a few days ago, and holy fuck, the ROI is bonkers. I have loads of fun
right?! been playing thief that got for free on epic store and it's really polished. As a dishonored diehard fan it looks pretty similar and by that i say that graphics is outstanded by quality
It’s not true though, the top 5 games in the last 5 years are at least as good as the top 5 games in any other given 5 year timespan
I started playing Jetset Radio for the original Xbox recently. Low poly platformers are a great damn time and don't cost $70.
Some cheap games I recommend and how much they cost me roughly (don't remember the exact numbers because i bought most of them a while ago)
Bioshock collection £10
AC Ezio Collection £12
AC Syndicate, Black Flag and Unity collection £16
Most other AC games including the massive RPGs usually under £20
Witcher 3 £5
Jedi Fallen Order £12 but I have seen it drop lower to roughly £5
Titanfall 2 Ultimate Edition £4
Resident Evil 2 and 3 Remake £14
Batman Arkham Collection £8
All of these I recommend people play and they are worth way more than they are priced. Also some of them aren't that old. The biggest steals are probably the witcher 3, batman arkham collection and jedi fallen order in terms of number of hours per pound spent
I'm still building my 2nd factory in Factorio. The first factory took the minimum amount of time to beat the game. This second factory went from whenever the first ended - to present. it still isn't done.
I want to pirate that game, but my pride...
This is something I've thought about quite a bit.
I've been playing the same games on repeat for over twenty years.
New games are boring while simultaneously being overwhelming and underwhelming at the exact same time. The environment is less interactive, but I have to play a 40-minute tutorial before I can even start the game....
I detest the candy-coated sheen that every game has now. I miss when games had a unique look and feel. Not just shat out of unreal engine.
My top game list.
PC:
-shooter- Doom (1993), Star Wars: Dark Forces (1995), Duke Nukem 3d (1996), Shadow Warrior (1997), Blood (1997), Half-Life (1998), Max Payne (2001)
-sim- Sim City (1989), Roller Coaster Tycoon 1 (1999), The Sims (2000), Roller Coaster Tycoon 3 (2004)
-rpg- Diablo 1 (1997), Baldur's Gate 1 (1998), Icewind Dale (2000), Baldur's Gate 2 (2000), Diablo 2 (2000)
-mmorpg- Dark Age of Camelot (2001)
-rts- Command & Conquer (1995), Red Alert (1996), Age of Empires (1997), Starcraft (1998), Tiberium Sun (1999), Age of Empires 2 (1999), Red Alert 2 (2000)
-action rpg- Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (2003)
-survival- Minecraft (2011)
-science fic- XCOM (1994)
N64:
-Racing- Diddy Kong Racing (1997), Mario Kart 64 (1997)
-Adventure- Super Mario 64 (1996), Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (1998), Banjo-Kazooie (1998)
-Flight sim- Pilotwings 64 (1996), Starfox 64 (1997)
PS1:
-survival horror- Resident Evil 1 (1996), Resident Evil 2 (1998), Resident Evil 3 (1999)
Gameboy:
-rpg- Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow (1998)
SNES:
-rpg- Super Mario RPG (1996), Final Fantasy 5 (1992), Final Fantasy 6 (1994)
-platformer- Super Mario World (1991), Mega Man X (1993), Mega Man X2 (1994)
Sega Genesis
-side scroller- Golden Axe (1989)
-platformer- Sonic 3 (1994)
NES:
-platformer- Super Mario Bros. 3 (1988), Mega Man 1-6 (1987-1993), Castlevania 3 (1989)
-action-adventure- The Legend of Zelda (1986)
youre missing out if you never tried witcher 3 gta 5 or portal
all those games are great but are mostly super basic mechanically and non existent narratively
@@DomLoganGRPI’m also amazed bg3 did not make his list
Love the list, owned and played most of them but look up the original Planescape Torment, it was the best DnD based game I have ever played on PC, also try Soul Reaver on the PS1.
Dark souls series and elden ring! Skyrim, Grim dawn, dragons dogma, witcher 3, Bioshock series. Euro truck simulator 2, Dishonored, stalker series, rayman 3 and 2, yakuza series
I 100% tell you these Triple A Publishers don't even play their games that's how you know it ain't made with love or passion just corporate greed.
Duh, of course most big publishers don't care, they didn't used to care either. What changed and is way more important is that even the studios themselves and the devs who are the ones developing the games don't play it! That is a big change. In fact, we see all the time studios who HATE their audience, and actively attacks them. Same goes for some devs, writers, etcetera, they actively attack their own players in order to pander to others and push their world view based in mental illness. I mean what do we think is going to happen when someone who hates us develops a game for people who dont even want to play their game, and a game that they don't care about or even play.
@@Kratos-eg7ez Studios attacking their own audience isn't much of an issue imo. What matters is the devs listening to their audience. Fallout 3 ignored the fanbases of fallout 1 and 2, because they just wanted to make another Oblivion. Whereas Obsidian, devs who came from CRPG roots, added in those missing story telling elements in New Vegas, fulfilling the demand. Guess what game receives endless praise on RUclips, all with millions of views each.
Nexus has 600mil downloaded mods for New Vegas and 150m for Fallout 3.
Ummm, it's Quadruple A now, thankyouverymuch /s
That's how we got Redfall and Phil looking dumb founded it failed. Like how didn't he know he shilled the game and then we found out he didn't even look into it until after it failed.
Literally the problem. This is why indie game industry is rising. We actually listen to our players feedback and get involved in the community. AAA don't care just ran by boards and investors.
The one major difference between old and new games - older games were created by devs that wanted to make a fun game - period. All modern AAA games start off as a monetization scheme, then they hire devs to add video game elements to enhance this monetization scheme. Pretty much nobody ever said "I have some time this weekend, I'm gonna play a monetization scheme with video game elements!". Why choose to spend your time on something designed for your credit card as opposed to something designed for your enjoyment?
What's crazy is that if they actually just made good games that were fun, they would make tons of money because the entire reason people would want to give you money for a game in the first place is BECAUSE YOUR GAME IS FUN.
@@samuraieko5408that's why Helldivers 2 is so popular, it's a fun game. You can purchase cuurency if you want but doesn't really affect the gameplay plus you can make it very easily on your own.
Can we stop blaming game devs when it is the publishers fault like most of the time.
@@actualiygod6782yeah but the developers are their little minions that mindlessly put these things in their games too scared to disagree against the big guy. ITS THEIR FAULT TOO
@@6ixSinister they have to work man.
The current gaming industry managers hate us Gen Y gamers. We’re experienced and smart. We know what good games look and feel like. We know what we want and we make decisions instead of just buying the new game because we can’t see past the “hype”. And we still have our old favorites on physical copy and we do still play them for free. That infuriates them.
I just love games of the old days.
Warcraft 3, Command & Conquer, Age of Empires, Resident Evil, Arma 2... we really had it all, golden era of gaming.
I haven't bought new games in long time with the exception of Helldivers 2 since it's pretty dope and I haven't seen anything like it in while, also 40€ for a game that gives CoD a run for their money is a welcome change.
Playing Bully on PS5. Whole game, earn all cosmetics in game and a full experience. Superior to all current open world games, only 10 bucks
My favorite Rockstar game. So good
100% a masterpiece.
I want a good remake, my brain can't cope with that old camera movement.
Warriors is the superior Rockstar game. I finished Bully 100% and never looked back. The world of that game felt empty after finishing it. Warriors on the other hand have some crazy content. After finishing the game, you unlock an arcade beat em up version that's equally fun
I still play Bully and San Andreas too lol
I've only really played GTA3 a ton back in the day, would I like Bully?
In Mario 64 you collect 120 stars and get to see Yoshi. In modern games 120 stars would give you nothing and it would cost $10 to see Yoshi.
Then he gives you something you don't need anymore.
Guys, did you played A Hat in Time? ;-)
@@chasejackson7248well live reset every time you load up a safe so easy 3 1 ups. Make sense to me.
Nah mario oddessy was recent and had tons of content and you can turn into yoshi for free
@@jordanstephens4178And half of the content was the equivalent of what previously would have just earned you coins and 1UPs being marketed just as important as meaty challenges.
I even have a gbc, gba, nds and psp emu in my phone with old classics and some who got recently a translation. On my laptop, mainly "old" rts I play offline.
Literally spent hours last night playing Tetris on the Gameboy.
My best mate literally said the other day "I just want to play a simple game. Too many new ones now are so epic and demand so much time".
Modern gaming started going downhill when it started to chase after Hollywood and now they suffer the same problem by way of bloated, mismanaged budgets and boring titles.
We used to have bad movie games following the storylines of movies with at least liked characters from said movies on the ps2 era.
Now we have bad games creating their own bad storyline with unlikable characters.
@@FREEDOMFIGHTER28s__Left__Dent Yeah pretty much.
@@FREEDOMFIGHTER28s__Left__Dent Peter Jackson's King Kong: The Official Game of the Movie
@@FREEDOMFIGHTER28s__Left__Dent it's like poetry, it rhymes
@@FREEDOMFIGHTER28s__Left__DentIronic.
Maybe I don't wanna buy games that are $70+
With $20 dlc
And $130 bundles that allow you to play 3 days before release. Gross.
And pay for content to buy in game
Be 2 years in the past, all the games will be cheap, have all their patches done and dlc done
With season passes... On release dlc... On release skins that should have been items in the game you get via quests and skill...
Almost all the gaming consoles I own are exclusively from the 7th generation (2005-2014) and before. I made one tiny exception for the 8th generation when I bought a PS4, but that was literally only so I could play its exclusives like Bloodborne, The Order 1886, The Last Guardian, Killzone Shadow Fall, and Infamous Second Son.
*Older triple AAA games. Good modern AA games still shine like helldivers 2
I paid $15 for Stardew Valley and ive gotten far more content from that than any AAA game ive played since then. Really says something about the industry when a 2D pixel graphics farming simulator made by a single guy is still better quality than these multi-million dollar AAA games they are trying to shove down are throats.
Edit: I actually spent $45 dollars on SDV because I later bought a copy for PlayStation and switch also. And you'll also commonly find SDV and Terraria for half off on steam.
While I don't remember how much I paid for Stardew Valley, I played for 1583 hours, and counting (started a new run with the 1.6 update). I think I got my money's worth!
$15 for Stardew Valley 6 years ago, free updates. Been playing Terraria with a buddy recently, checked transaction history, bought it 10 years ago for $2.50(!!!), also all free updates. Not counting an idle game(Melvor), those are my 3rd and 6th most played games on Steam, coming up on a nearly combined 1000 hours.
goated game
Gonna have a look at haunted chocolate factory?
@@utubenoob2.095 I know I will!
This is the reason why many big companies fail to bring anything great to the table. They just play it safe and mostly copy everyone else in the industry. Big companies get too influenced by making money rather than making fun and good games.
Just like it was in the last 30 years or so, nothing changed. We had the mario clones, the doom clones, the COD clones etc etc... Once something works, everybody copies it. Playing it safe is absolutely not something new
@@omarsheriff51this is actually a very fair reply, and well put also. But...
There is also hope. Hope from companies that still take chances, and make the games that they want to play.
FromSoftware. I am looking at you...
They think making money = doing what's trendy,
- rather than doing something great that then naturally becomes a trendsetter
Assassin's Creed (OG) didn't follow any trends. It in fact did the opposite, it tried to venture where no one had gone before, and it arguably kickstarted the whole single-player open world scene. It wasn't the first to do this, but it was the first game that actually was truly original in this scene and was made from the ground up to be novel and interesting and fun to play.
Same with PUBG and Fortnite and Warzone respectively in their own niches of BR. Sure Warzone did kinda follow a trend, but it also was the first AAA studio produced title to go into this scene. Remember, PUBG was basically an indie project that blew up, and Fortnite was in the uber casual segment that didn't really compete directly with the field COD was/is occupying. But every game since them have just failed because they see the trend first and foremost. Battlefield failed miserably, twice. They tried BR and extraction only because it was popular, not because they thought their approach could bring something unique and fun to the scene.
They also like to ignore their QA teams.
You also forget that publisher push and push games out quicker and only care about the bottom line. Often game devs dont get the ability to make a good game anymore that often.
Does any one know where Asmon got the idea at 21:08? Was it survival in development or something? Because I played the fortnite Beta, and it was certainly not a survival game
It was a tower defense game. A bit of a dodgy description but that’s pretty much what you have to do. It’s just CoD Zombies with more than fixing a window, it’s on some Tony Hawk Park creator BS
I agree. While I'm not playing games that are decades old, I barely rush out to buy the new releases. I typically wait a few years as I get the games with all their performance patches for way cheaper, and oftentimes with the DLC included. I only buy a few new releases a year and those are games I know ill really enjoy.
So if keeping franchises alive is so important, THEN WHY ARE GAMING COMPANIES KILLING OF THEIR OWN PRODUCTS LIKE THIER LIVES DEPENDED ON IT?!
They are doing this because executives who have no business telling people how to do their jobs are listening to the isolated focus think tanks that really have no idea what people want. Then basing everything off of that
I just think most games aren't made with the passion they used to have.
Good, keep digging
It's not only gaming companies, unfortunately. The DEI/ESG virus has spread across most industries by HR and marketing activists that are clueless about what it takes to drive a successful company or make a profit. It's like the kids that think that money are unlimited and everything is about them.
I'm becoming convinced that it's another deliberate effort to destroy or devalue the things that inspire people
Other factors for playing older games is the fact that you don't have to upgrade your PC in order to be able to play them well
Truth be told, I play mostly older games on my PC which has a 4070TI Super in it and an AMD 5950X. I honestly don't need that kind of power, but until a game comes along that needs that level of power and can go toe to toe with the gameplay and design that older games offer, I really don't care.
My daily driver laptop is 13 years old and runs things like Battlefield 2 beautifully on high graphics despite having the processing equivalent of a modern chromebook, and I absolutely love it.
@@josephmaffit6429Ahah so damn true. I got also a RtX4070Ti and im playin FF7 (Not the remake), Persona etc.. In fact, i didnt think futur games will be so.. Bad. Optimization included.
Even then, the graphics of old games were the BEST they could offer. Today they just schill out some premade assets on UE5 or w/e. Every game looks the freaking same lol
@@Iron_Sights99I still play Battlefield 2 too. Also through BF2hub? Amazing game. 😍
I still play single-player games like TES-III: Morrowind, TES-IV: Oblivion, and both Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask, Pac-Man World, Crash Bandicoots I, II and Warped, Ray-Man Adventures, GTA SA, and HALO I! I also like playing old school ATARI games and Commodore 64 games as well!
I always buy games 1-2 years after release. That way they are usually fully patch, have all content released, and are discounted 60% or more.
I get turned off when I have to sign in to an extra account to play a game by myself, for example I wanted to play a golf game but the game doesnt save your progress in single player mode unless you connect to the server, what the fuck is that? why cant I do single player seasons by myself in a golf game?
Shhhhhh!
Stop talking reason, and logic...
Consume product how we say. Ya got that?!?
😂😂
Because that game has multiplayer or at the very least, some form of online connectivity that requires the developers to collect/ request/ send data.
@@Xgil2Play Yes. Why does the game need to be designed to require server information for single player? There are many games that don't need to do that at all. You missed the point entirely and dropped into being a pathetic pedant.
@@liwojenkins I answered that question in my previous comment. Re-read it; it's in English.
Just consume product and buy the next one. Repeat endlessly.
It’s nice being a strategy gamer, because the niche nature of the games tends to keep tourists away. The games gatekeep themselves.
RTS is ded (other than the old diehard communities kept together by people like Grubby). I'm sceptical about the "RTS revival" hypetrain, but we'll find out soon enough.
TBS players get charged through their nose - precisely because the genre is even more niche, while the games in it are _not at all_ cheap to make. Especially because Paradox(let's be honest, it's mainly Paradox these days) pays taxes in Sweden...well, that, and they know their main demographic is 25+, probably older, so they have the money. Not super happy about it, but at least I get worthwhile games.
@@AthenaTennosN lol they been saying RTS is de ad for decades now, fact is age of empires 2 is more played than every playstation game on pc, COMBINED!
@@AthenaTennosN not really at all, what do you consider rts? Manor lords is and would be considered RTS, and you have that Command and Conquer spirtual successor coming out soon, age of wonders 4 was recent, although more turn based, but turn based and real time tend to go hand in hand.. bg3 is a turn based strategy game.
@@MichaelMitreski yeah, its not dead at all.. not in the slightest, average total war players of all total war games combined is over 200k everyday
Zero K is the king of RTS and been out so long and all I need.
Modern popular old video games are just walking marketing ads.
I play Battlefield 3 and 4 online nearly every day since the release in 2011 for BF3 and 2013 for BF4.
These two shooters are still the best shooters that have ever been made.
Especially BF4 has loads of full servers.
For me it's Unreal Tournament 2003.
I just haven't found an FPS that's more fun for me, and 20 years later I can still hop on for a quick match whenever I want. Completely respects my time, never asks for more money, and if I want something new I can download a mod.
Need for Speed Underground 2 is 20 years old.... Still has more replay value than a lot of today's releases
underground is garbage...need for speed remake is the good one
@@divacroft1034So you’re bad at driving is what I heard. They’re all arcade but anything after carbon is extra arcade shit.
Remembering when NFS separated the handbrake from the foot brake
Most wanted was my favorite
@@adamboise3907 that one was terrible too
The reason people play games is because they're fun. The reason companies make games is because they earn money. The dichotomy between the two is the root of all evil when it comes to bad AAA games. Publishers and decision-makers who probably don't even play games see dollar signs and then push developers to focus on amazing graphics to lure you in before shoving it out the door on schedule regardless of whether or not it's actually fun (or even ready for a stable release).
When World of Warcraft was still in development, I recall a forum post by a Blizzard employee explaining that they cannot announce a release ETA prior to it being feature-complete because they need to make sure everything is fun. If they don't consider an idea or feature to be fun, then they will scrap it and start over with something else. Game companies today need to learn from that. Don't make games for the money, make games for the fun and then money will follow.
So fun games make money but businesses are making unfun games in order to.. make money?
Why are there so many of you?
How do you reconcile that view with the fact that they actively undermine their brands and destroy their profitability? And that the people making these decisions are being put out of work, many of them never rich to begin with (e.g. community managers, broke freelancers who still have ridiculous amounts of influence, etc.)?
The thing to recognize about money is that it's ALWAYS a means, not an end unto itself. The end is whatever they gain from that money, which may or may not be something tangible. For instance, reputation, legacy, and control.
@@oldoddjobs Its the idea that businesses optimized most of the care of customers out of the decision process and leaves more hallow feelings to anyone who thinks longer than a brief period about the games they buy. They're selling us brands and memories then giving us sloppy work but due to the reputation of stuff like Sports Games and CoD being so solid and casual for so many years with people who don't really know better they just keep eating up the slop. Its entirely stupid of them to think people would stop buying shit because its "Not Fun" cus FIFA and EA Sports FC are on those lists and they're probably clunky awful shit games that still have many upon many playing and investing money into.
We'll never dredge ourselves out of this until game companies massively fuck up by taking too big of a step somewhere? Not sure where they'd do it but it would need to be BAD to pull the industry back to like 2000s/2010s era of pricing and thoughtfulness, all you can do is not entertain some parts of the industry and hope others don't as well at this rate.
i feel companies sometimes forget that the base of games is just having fun. once a game is fun it's easy enough to monetize. make a great game and then monetize it. don't make games around a monitization strategy.
@oldoddjobs what do you not understand it's simple? Before they focused on making the game fun too make money now they just focus on the money part
I have a finite amount of time as an adult, so the little time I set aside to play games I hate spending it waiting for updates. I play Switch more than anything else current gen because the games on it are plug and play, minimal if any updates.
You know you’re getting older when you consider Fortnite a new game.
Cause almost every new game is following a similar trend. checking boxes, microtransactions, lack of creativity, taking no risks, changing stuff about previous IPs, and more.
Doesn't all of that apply to Sims 4, CS2, CoD and GTA 5 as well? Valorant and LoL were also not creative, they just ripped off CS GO and Dota.
its been the same game just reskinned for 10+ years now
@@__goat__ Yeah but most of the games you listed are good. They at least innovated a bit versus games today that can barely release in a non beta state and shove every leftist political point possible down your throat.
@@__goat__yea it does. GTA V gets a pass for the massive single player.
Sorry, not every game.
Old games feel like complete experiences and like real art, not some canned slop. I'm playing Age of Wonders 2 and Heroes of Might and Magic 3 atm and both these games are such a joy to play.
I've also been playing around with might and magic 3, my biggest complaint about replying titles this old is getting a nice resolution on the ultra wide monitor 😅 I hope you've got the GOG version and not the steam version 😊😊
I love cityscyline, dark souls and dragon dogma 2 and they are new games. I dont remember when i enjoyed this mutch of games that i am now
@@doodwasalreadytaken Oh yes, the steam version is shit. I play the gog version with the HD mod, runs like a charm😀
Age of wonders 4 is great though
Aow 4 is pretty fucking good. Homm3 was the fucking bomb back in the day, i gotta play it again
I'm still playing The Binding of Isaac, the first 7 original releases of final fantasy games, Rayman Origins specifically, and Risk of Rain. Sometimes I'll dabble into some tekken 3 or 8.
Yes I've played old games this and last year for sure. Heroes 3 Hota because of the new factory castle came out, OSRS, Final Fantasy Tactics, Hearthstone, League to mention some. Only good new titles I still sometimes play are like Baldur's gate 3 and Elden Ring
New games is garbage. You don't feel like you're playing a game, but more like doing homework and assignments
This.. 💯
*Playing Dragon's Dogma 1*
I wouldn't mind playing DD2 right about now >_>
100% Almost all modern games feels like work. Its insane.
It's because they'd rather try to use gimmicks to trick you into playing long hours than they would just making a good game. What they want to do is slowly bring everyone into a subscription model so you can't own games you can only subscribe monthly with your subscription ability being tied to your social credit score.
Fr😢, thats what I feel with ghost recon breakpoint
The problem with gamers nowadays is they care more about what most people play..... people forgot it's entertainment. You do you. You play to be entertained...It's like food, tv shows, etc. You don't compete to enjoy food. You don't need validation from most people to enjoy a certain tv show. You just enjoy what you enjoy. Now, people all want what most people play...
It’s sad that this is true of myself and I’ve had to catch myself with it and remind myself of how weird it is. It’s just been so ingrained through everything I didn’t even realize it was happening lol
Were only here because weve had over a decade of shit and now even the normies are pissed
It's not just that, popular games are probably played by your friends too, will have more youtube content and memes and whatnot.
Thats not really it, its always been that way. its more to do with you end up playing what all your friends are playing so you can play wit them or talk about it. Its like when a tv show becomes popular, everyone starts talking about it so you check it out o see what the fuss is about and then you talk about it. All these big franchises started that way, dave down the road played this game gta1, you play it and are like holy cow thats awesome so you are now play8ing it, your friend comes over and hes now playing it. Nothings changed
Well, as someone who was on the OG MW servers, i kept buying COD because I couldnt scratch that itch anywhere else. Eventually i stopped because i realized that even COD didnt scratch that itch anymore. I was chasing the feelings i had back in 2007-2011. It was impossible to do.
Its hard to get out of old habits and relearn to do something else even in video games. I had to kick my own ass to even get into baldur’s gate and i ended up loving it.
True, I spend most of my gaming time playing the Castlevania Anniversary Collection and some other NES or SNES games on my Switch. The only new game I’ve purchased lately is Super Mario Wonder.
The Neverwinter Nights series offered functionality which is no longer available in any modern computer game. You could create your own worlds from scratch and run them as dedicated servers. No one of modern games offers this today.
Medieval II: Total War is one of those time portal games where once you step in, there's no knowing how much time will have passed when you step out.
Like a good book. Still playing it
I still play MTW2 and empire and occassionaly RTW2. Refuse to play any of the new ones.
still waiting for M3TW and i hope they wont fuck it up.
I always go back to medieval 2 and shogun 2 from time to time 😊
@@inopnatum With how CA have become. *YOU WILL* be disappointed in a M3TW that they make. They have fallen to great levels of incompetence.
Cause older games were pieces of art and newer ones are just content.
🎯
This.
There's clearly survivorship bias. 99% of games released in the last decade are dead and forgotten about, just like 99% of modern games.
newer games are really patches and mods of the old games
@jesperjohansson6959 I agree to this coz u cam only see star cade series from John Tron to see the majority of games
I've always loved particularly PC games since I was about 7. I remember getting absolutely hooked on Rome Total War, and later Medieval 2 Total War. From then on I've been a huge fan for grand strategy campaigns. Admittedly, my loyalty to Total War really limited my scope for strategy until I was in my early to mid 20's. But the past few years, I would play games in my library from 5+ years ago because I had an old computer. Then my computer died. I reverted to my laptop for a while which can't handle crazy graphics and the like, so I started playing games from the 90's that are still maintained, or games inspired from 80's and 90's. My favorite has been discovering Dominions: a fantasy grand strategy game based on real cultural mythologies in three different ages. The older games, or even newer games that follow the same style and framework of old games, have so much more depth and immersion than a lot of games I see today. And as others have mentioned, the micro transactions and "DLCs" (aka more mirco transactions) are ridiculous. I also remember buying games as kid at the local BestBuy, Walmart, or off the internet and actually owning a complete game.
I know "gamers" have differing genre preferences, but I think a lot of companies just miss the mark with games too. People know a great game when they see one. So if people see a shit game that is obviously more interested in emptying your bank account than providing a superior product, then yeah, people go back to what works. Personally, I'm also weary about constantly purchasing new games because I don't trust new games anymore. I might buy like 2-3 games a year at most now. Oh your game is EA and $40? Hard pass 99% of the time. No demo? Okay, fine. But I'm not paying full price for at least another 3-6 months after I've done my research, forgot about your game, and got bored so here I am a second time window shopping. I love strategy and turn based stuff, and I've also played rts, fps, moba, etc. But there's a common theme between all the genres. That theme seems to be a lack of effort to focus on the stuff consumers actually care about. Instead, companies invest in eye candy and persuading people to pay $60+ for "the game", and then $15+ per kilobyte of "additional content".
And yes, not all companies or dev teams screw everything up. This is just my general opinion regarding the nature of games today.
My latest obsession on Steam is the game Wasteland 3. Game is about 4 years old. Most recent purchase is Total War Shogun 2 which is 13 years old.
Demon Souls was small
Dark Souls was a breakout
Dark Souls 3 was a massive success
Elden Ring was an instant blockbuster
FromSoft made by sticking to their guns.
Devs, publisher - take note.
Everygame that fromsoft made after demons souls sold extremely well.
Yea even ds2 was solid, definitely felt off, compared to ds1, but was still a banger
@@thatarmswarrior DS2 is still a great game . One can argue it's the worst out of the 3 dark souls but i love it as much as 1
@@theteamxxx3142 agreed, it's my favorite in all honesty, I kinda love the disjointed interconnected map, like you're living in a true hellscape that twists and transforms and just keeps throwing stuff at you
Dark Souls 2 is a gem, git gud
I like a full game when I purchase it 😂
Nothing like having a dlc at launch.
🤮
Sorry bub. You have to wait for the day 1 200GB patch.
Buy games after a year:
* Cheaper
* With DLCs
* With real reviews
* With mods
@@igorthelight or ignore the new trash games altogether. That is even cheaper!
@@majorgear1021 There are 2-3 good games every year. Some of them are AAA, AA and even indies ;-)
I played two new games substantially this year; Helldivers 2 and Last Epoch. Indie studios are where it’s at these days
A unicorn mount/pet in WoW, costs almost nothing in terms of production cost, and yet it raked in as much revenue as Starcraft 2 did. The gaming industry has changed; games that last long have become like a sales platform for low production cost cosmetic products. It's like writing 1 great book, and keep selling summaries and updated versions and just market that 1 book, so that production costs stay low and the aftermarket value stays high. It's a shift away from old recipe of writing 1 quality book, ride on the economics of that 1 book long enough to keep the lights on to finish the next quality book. So how do you survive economically if book/game nr. 3 or 4 flops? The early days of gaming, games were created by passion, but now it's more about economical viability and chancing on getting critical mass success.
I'm still playing on my Xbox 360. Games like Crysis 2, Gears of War 3, Borderlands 2, and Skyrim.
“Gears! Move out!”
Bro... My SNES is literally hooked up to a projector in my bedroom with 3 drawers full of games I haven't beat yet. I don't want to talk about my hacked PS2.
@@HeiligerGrimmnir🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@HeiligerGrimmnirdude, you're set. Living like a king
Omg i still have Gears on my 360 and love it. I wish they would release Gears 1-3 on PC allready.
I also want to point out a thing that many may not even talk about: older games sometimes are just comfortable to play. No matter how many new Resident Evil games come out there is only one obligatory yearly run of RE 4, and so many franchises have that same thing where there is that one game that people consider peak and stick to it as their comfort fallback.
What about RES 1-3? Those are older games but they aren't obligatory yearly runs?
@@GeorgeMonet Comfort games probably means what they played as a kid. (Also damn RE 1 and 2 have not aged well so I would not blame anyone for not picking that up again)
I've played through the entire Battle For Middle Earth campaign about 20 times in my life. Cozy games are so repeatable and comfy and familiar (Second Wind video was great on this topic).
@@GeorgeMonet RE3 is definately a 2 year run, just to savor Nemesis from time to time. RE1 and 2 - eh, maybe remakes but not yearly that's for sure. Also, sleeper pick - Revelations 2 for the raid mode. That game is straight up crack for my RE gameplay craving.
@@TheNeonLynxGonna disagree with you there. RE1 hasn't aged super well, sure, since the remake has rendered it completely obsolete, but OG RE2 is just a better, more coherent game than its remake. RE2 Remake is so clearly unfinished, and it's sorely lacking the atmosphere that only fixed camera angles and pre-rendered backgrounds can provide.
11:10 Facts. Play what you like/are good at, don't chase the meta.
Amazing video, you know exactly when to pause and add your input to the topic
Listening to interviews now with developers of big hit classics from the '90s/2000s, I keep seeing the same things: relatively small teams, and absurdly unrestricted creative freedom to the point where the game shipped with things that only one team member was even aware of.
The really sad thing is that I don't think going back to that would even work anymore. The industry is no longer populated with people who have the talent or integrity for that environment.
We also don't really have A or AA studios at all now; that dynamic is completely gone. Everything is either AAA or indie, and personally I'm sick of both albeit for different reasons.
100% this. The current industry lacks the people required for good games. You need people who have integrity and love for the common gamer.
Same. Everything is either over-the-top, bloated-budget photorealistic bombast, or no-budget pixel-trash headed straight for Humble Bundle/Game Pass. How about just... a reasonable medium?
@@Cryptic0013 Yeah, the pixel shit is only popular because it's so accessible for developers with no resources. Nobody is actually nostalgic for it. I'm freaking 35 and that 8-bit pixel aesthetic is still easily 5-10 years before my time.
That sucks for consoles. Steam has A and AA studios as well as unlimited indies that could be the next A or AA studio.
@@saikimayu Yeah, Josh Strife Hayes said it best when he pointed out that Symphony of the Night and A Link to the Past still look good today because, in the XX-bit era, devs were doing absolutely everything they could with very limited resources, so they leaned into art style.
Nowadays, "pixel shit" looks terrible because those devs are, instead, doing the *least* they can get away with, despite having nearly unlimited compute resources, because they have no style. Then they try to pass it off as "nostalgic"
Some older games like fallout and system shock, deus ex, they haven't aged perfectly but if you sit with them for a couple hours you will be hopelessly hooked despite their age
Not for me. The only Fallout game I like is FO4 and that is because it isn't a Fallout game.
@@GeorgeMonet that's probably because it had more modern gameplay mechanics
@@GeorgeMonet different strokes i spose. i didnt like fallout 4
@@GeorgeMonet how someone can enjoy fallout 4 and not new vegas and 3 is wild to me
New games are either bad gameplay, nickel and dime you for everything like battle passes and expansions that they cut out of the base game, release the game unfinished, make you pay for their 'live service' BS OR force you to make a login for their silly launcher and be online all the time, microtransactions out the ying yang, people don't want to leave their friends from old games, etc.
Old games are actually COMPLETE
The barrier for entry for system requirements is lower for alot of the top games on the list, simple and complete product, and not pay to win so they are easy to enjoy for extended time. Studios keep trying to add in pay to win and barriers where the users are pushed to pay in annually (at the long end of the spectrum).
Of course we are playing older games are you kidding me, who wouldn't play a good game thats $60 at most and probably is on sale regardless of the original price and even if it is full price it's still a good game
me reading this as i play diablo 1 , "yep thats true "
It's always bothered me no matter how many years pass, all older COD games are still sold at full price. Like nobody is going to buy Ghosts or advanced warfare for 60$, also shame on you if you think ghost was ever good.
Same with older pokemon titles.
I mean the most popular ones are all free so this isn't a bad take but an inaccurate one
@@cristianfairley4186 what are you referencing?
@@christianedwards9025 Fortnite apex legends league of legends cs2 valorant pubg.. the list goes on.
Warzone.. felt this needed to be added just to really show its every Uber popular game is free.
The modern gaming world is in a post-apocalyptic state where aside from a very few oasis, everything that comes out just adds more to the growing wasteland of broken hopes... Old games look like technological and artistic miracles compared to most of the soulless slop they're so proud of overpricing nowadays
most of the games on those most played lits are freemium slop made to milk people
This year alone has been banger after banger and we have stellar blade and senuas saga, which, not for me personally, I know a lot of people are looking forward to. This is following a year of titles that have been killing it. The trash is there but it's where it belongs. Suicide squad anyone? For spoken? Saints row? That's probably 3 closed studios back to back to hopefully back because fuck rocksteady
Damn bro, thank you for the insightful comment
I'm hoping any of the 3 big MMOs I'm anticipating are going to be worthwhile and I can put years of gameplay into them and constitute supporting them, but my cynical side is telling me 1 out of 3 is an impossible ask. I may just have to keep playing RuneScape.
@@wazakashi It looks like most games these days are cartoony and childlike compared to the influx of mature franchises we got in the past like gears of war, halo etc
Stellar Blade just looks like Bayonetta/Nier to me with no new mechanics
All mechanics at this point are rehashed from the past
When I was a kid I thought we would get games were we can wage mech space battles and expand our government while piloting mechs over at least 20 worlds
Instead I got starfield......
6:33 Well, yeah. Even 10 years ago, the average age of gamers was like 35. It's easy to be a hardcore gamer when you're in your teens or 20s because other than school, you don't have responsibilities such as an SO, kids, mortgage, house maintenance, a job with set hours the requires you to shower and be clean-shaven, etc, so you have all that time to devote to gaming. Then as you get to late 20s and 30s, you realize that while you still have time to game, you don't have time to be hardcore about it, unless you have a support structure for it. So people gradually move to more casual games or play the same "hardcore" games but at a slower pace. I'd happily play at a higher level or more hardcore pace than the average gamer, I just don't have the time for it anymore.
Ironically the only 2 games that I play that have come out in the last few years are actually remakes or remasters of older games, RE4 Remake & MASS EFFECT Legendary Edition. Older games are more innovative and higher quality than MOST of the newer games.
I'm finaly playing through Final Fantasy 7 & 8. With older games you at least know which ones are quality
Have you ever played ff6? While the graphics weren't great even in the remake the story is solid and has multiple endings.
with older games, you also know which ones are quality.
Same, finally decided to play legend of dragoon, ff 8 is next and then ff7
@@Baccanaso
Don't sleep on FF6 and Chrono Trigger.
FF9 is solid too
Today's Market = $80 for a Beta version of the game with patch support and a $140 DLC in the future whilst current bugs and issues still exist.
This is today's gaming experience.
Old games polish their games before release and patching was only done to fix SMALL issues, now it's been made into an industry to distribute WHOLE GAME FILES.
facts
- or just wait 8mo and buy the gold edition with all DLC and included patches for $30. I haven't bought a full price game in years. The silver-lining of an oversaturated market. There are exceptions ofc (Nintendo First-Party titles & BG3) but 90% of the market falls into this pattern.
A player could have a blast playing hundreds of Doom WAD's for free.
I feel like it is either people play only new or only old games.
I went heavy on Fist of the North Star Ken’s Rage a few months ago. Had a great time.
Same reason I watch mostly old movies
I watched "The Ninth Gate" last week and it was refreshing. For a silly destraction of balance, I then watched "The Court Jester" starring Danny Kay; story driven films that do not attempt to change anything. Cheers.
Agreed. Young Guns is fantastic.
Big trouble in little china
Don't dismiss foreign movies either. There's still a lot of great stuff being made all around the world.
so true.... today 99% of movies will have a woke message. its so boring and lame.
we just want to see good stories......... not political propaganda
I actually play game boy and other retro games these days, being surprised by how good they were. I had almost forgotten what it was like when games were just good without filler and other nonsense.
Lol or when games couldn’t afford the space for filler cuz they were counting megabytes.
Yup same, I mean I have played it a lot but playing FF7 again at the moment on PS1... did forget how brilliant it is, what a story 😍
Oh yeah, gameboy has a lot of good games.
Part of the problem is that consumers don't know what they actually want, and devs keep listening to it, which is how World of Warcraft got to the point it's at now. But if you go back to a game that is comparatively simple and slow like Diablo 1, holy shit that game was well crafted even when you take into account the silly hangups it has. It looks like shit compared to D4, until you play it and realize that mounts and collectibles and skins, and affix swapping and white knuckle action are hollow and empty.
@@orangegalenor in the case of Gameboy, kilobytes lol…
Warframe is seeing many new players join since Cross play and Cross save were added month's ago. It is a fun time helping new players right now, on top of enjoying the game itself.
Skyrim, Minecraft and a few others have both been my back n forth since Xbox 360 in 2012 to now on pc because I can have fun on those without spending money where as more modern games play the opposite very heavily.
I remember back in 2004 that I watched the making-of-documentary of Halo 2, that came out in the Collector's Edition as an extra DVD. I remember Joseph Staten, writer and director of the game, when they came out with the E3 2003 demo he said "we came to the E3 with a demo, not with a playable part of the game, and in its current state the game is not fun so we need to rethink the whole project". You don't see that anymore, developers actually thinking about games being fun, games are just cashgrabs now and you can see it by tons of games coming out every day, we are living in the shovelware days of the Wii, but for the whole industry.
It's not just the fun aspect. Look up the documentaries for the German cult games series Gothic. The original developer were dedicated computer scientist, who were interested in creating their own 3D engiene and they had an actual drive to make their game different and unique from other RPGs on the market at the time. You look at todays diversity hire developers and you are happy if they can eat with a spoon without losing an eye.
The fact the games are "older" is only a surface observation, there were tons of old games that have since been forgotten. The difference is that "old" games that are still being played are the stand-outs. New games are competing with "hey I have this awesome game I put hundreds of hours into, do I wanna spend $70 on some new game that I'm not even sure I'll remember in a year or just save money and keep playing my owned games?" Companies need to realize they're competing with games from ten years ago and if they fail to deliver and improve on things from the past and make fun new things, they'll fail.
Yes. But I noticed so many new games are childish right now. There is a trend where games are made such that a grandmother and a toddler can both play it. As a gamer i feel alienated by 90% of the new games.
Same reason why wow went downhill, dumbing game down=retail but to focused on endgame raids for pros. Alienating core audience.
Exactly they are competing with the past. Look at rocksteady: I rather play arkham city again than the new one.
If you think about it, Halo free 4 all (or teams of 2) 16 player multiplayer was a Battle Royal just on a smaller scale
I think a big issue with new games is outside of a few most people are going to wait 6 months for sales and buy. This year only bought ff7 rebirth and infinite wealth day one.
Medal of honor died because it was so buggy on release you couldn't compete the first mission. Then by the time a patch came out a month later no one knew about it because social media wasn't like it is these days.
I miss the MoH series every day... No other game took WW2 and turned it into cinema quite like that game
That was the start of a trend no one knew was coming. If you told my 8yo self that you'd buy a game and have to wait for a fix to play most of the game. I probably would have spat on you in disgust 😂😂😂
@@Lunamanahell let loose is fantastic on the multiplayer side
Love the medal of honor series. Despite above and beyond being quite; buggy, quirky, 160+gb!!! It was a very fun VR game to playthrough. Need another game similar to MoH: Rising Sun
Medal of Honor games on the original Xbox blow any CoD or Battlefield out of the water
Remove live service titles and re-do the survey.
I feel like live service games are for normal gamers whereas the more classical or hardcore gamers prefer single player games
Normal people* and gamers play what you mention
Nah bro, CS and Valorant keep me sane. Live service isn’t some horrific thing, it’s just that most new “games” are a cash shop in disguise
even looking at Steam stats most player SP games are mostly made 4-10 years ago.
And remove dei,ESG and activists from the industry
Because a game I bought in 2021 looks and plays like a pre-release alpha version meant for internal testing yet has DLC from day one along with 50 pre-order bonuses. Seems like a more complicated donation system than an entertainment purchase.
Also the ones they can monitor. I like playing the games I bought that I actually have and didn't NEED steam to play.
Somewhere along the road new games just started leaving out features and functions that were considered standard on older games ie. Hosting a server on YOUR OWN hardware, playing games over a lan instead of only over the internet, adding ai players in a multiplayer game, modding and customization software that the developer included. It also seems like some older games have graphics that are as good yet they seem to run better because of meticulous optimization while developers making new games just expect you to have the best hardware at all times and they put no effort in making them run well.
This Is the main reason I'm playing old games is performance of the old games😂 newer games can't even get above 60/80fps
...and then you have to buy a subscription because they have pay for the servers to host your games.
The old total war games are still some of my favourites. After being completely let down by starfield I went back to Rome total war 1.
I still play also regularly. My gpu does'nt want to explode playing these old masterpieces also...
If you like spaceship games i recommend an indie title called House of the Dying Sun! Badass soundtrack with cool themes, tight controls and artstyle!
@@Dasistrite To add another spaceship game, Starsector is a pretty cool game as well.
Thats weird cus theyre entirely different games.
Were you expecting Rome Total War when you bought Starfield? 😂😂😂
@@Jacob-sb3su lol someone should give you a trophy every time you say something stupid.
I have over 2000 hours in Skyrim... Probably a million hours in Vanilla Wow.
All of this is explained in blue ocean strategy. Its the idea that there are red oceans and blue oceans, the red oceans have too much competition but the blue oceans are like a new area to develope.
I recently revisited: Arkham City, Max Payne 3 and Deus Ex mankind divided.
Absolute masterpieces on all front (gameplay, music, animation, storytelling...)
All often on sale under 10$.
Correct on all 3, Max Payne is amazing, more people should go back and play it.
The original deus ex is one of the best games ever made. Way better the invisible war and the two new prequels. JC Denton in the fresh!
@@haroldfranklin3670 First play though, JC's bro told me to run out of the flat and I did and he died.
Next play though, "Fuck this, I'm not leaving my bro" Saved him and he was in the whole game after! MIND BLOWN!
What a game.
@@All_Hail_Chael absolutely, original is probably the SP game I finished the most amount of times because I was curious to see what would happen if X Y Z was done differently.
Been playing a bit of mankind divided lately and while the consequences of certain choices don't impact the main story all that much, I'm still surprised to find pretty elaborate side quests or interesting areas
Max payne yess
I just play whatever sounds fun. Which is mainly older games. I've been playing games like stronghold or command and conquer, and it's been a blast.
This is why the best genre to develop is 1st person survivor craft games. Aka The Forest, Subnautica, Green Hell, Stranded Deep. Players in this genre are constantly looking for new games in the genre
I would straight up do the same thing to especially with future games become cloud only