Getting Dressed in the 18th Century - Dido Elizabeth Belle (1779)
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- Опубликовано: 12 окт 2019
- Dido Elizabeth Belle undresses and and dresses for her 1779 portrait by artist David Martin. Dido is accompanied by her cousin Lady Elizabeth Murray.
For more information on Dido Belle and to see the painting, follow these links: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dido_El...
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Thanks to support from www.loveniplaw.co.uk/
Director/Cinematographer: Nicole Loven / crowseyeproductions
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Producer/Costumier: Pauline Loven / periodwardrobe
Producer/Assistant director - Liv Free / thelivfree
Make-up/hair - Liv Free / livfreemakeup
Voice-over: Liv Free / thelivfree
Dido Elizabeth Belle - Laila Mnii
Lady Elizabeth Murray - Sophie Morris
David Martin - Marcus Houden
Maid - Emma Kirkup
Maid - Jasmine Ackerman
Music: Chris Gordon www.chrisgordon.info/
Costume assistant - Kelly Clarke
Filmed on location at Normanby Hall, North Lincolnshire www.normanbyhall.co.uk
Special thanks to:
Madeleine Gray, Collections Assistant at Normanby Hall, for all her help and support during filming.
Scone Palace for support in our research.
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As a black woman that obsessed with 18th and 19th century fashion I’m absolutely thrilled that you’re highlighting Dido.
As a white man, I feel the same :-)
Have you watched the miniseries, Black Girl in a Big Dress?
Kristen White theres an interesting video that details more about the portrait
ruclips.net/video/C_svT4KmIiM/видео.html
You might like the youtube channel NotYourMommasHistory. It's run by a black historical interpreter.
As a fine sexy beautiful black woman❤️💅🏼sis ikr I'm watching every area
Can we please bring back the 18 century size pocket for women's wear? 😍
Or any actual pocket, lol. Seriously.
I make and wear 18th century clothing for events and let me tell you, even better than a pocket is a pocket hoop or small pannier with a sturdy bottom - I have put a whole bottle of wine in one pocket hoop and a more comfortable pair of shoes in the other 😂
Pockets that work!
yah im very confused whos decision this was? haha, i need pockets.
@@annakoschka I did the same 😅
Although this is mostly accurate, there's a large and glaring difference in Dido's story. She was pampered and showered with love and affection _for a woman of color._ When the household traveled, she was left behind. When they had guests, she ate with the servants. After Lord Mansfield died, Dido was then, and ONLY then, freed from slavery. Yes, the Manfields loved her. There is plenty of evidence of that. But there was a part of them that was still ashamed of her and it wouldn't be accurate nor fair to disclude that important information.
Dido Belle was a daughter to an untried couple. Very few "bastards" were fully accepted into their families at that time. I am convinced that Dido was deeply loved by her aristocratic family.
@oaktree_ So you assume that her uncle devalued her for being of mixed race? Can you provide any supporting evidence (quotes by Lord Mansfield reports etc)?
@oaktree_ not related to the topic: Wikioedia isn't that reliable of a source.
Kardinaalilintu Wikipedia is a reliable starting point for research because every statement and sentence should have a citation of where it was exactly found on the internet. Wikipedia has a works cited page just like any research paper.
@@magnushelin007 in the 1700's when this tale takes place, slavery was very much a thriving "business" in England. Mansfield treated Dido well, but she was still considered a well-kept slave. She was not considered a free woman at the least until 1793 when he died and "bequeathed" her freedom to her. People who are viewed as property are not considered equals. Therefore, her differentiated treatment should have been highlighted in this video so as to not sugarcoat the reality that Dido lived in.
The portrait is also incredibly important because your placement in the picture was important. Normally a black person would be lower in a portrait than a white person because they were usually a servant. By putting Dido and Elizabeth at EXACTLY the same level (and their faces really are exactly level) was to make a statement that these women were equals.
Wow I never knew that. Thank you for sharing!
@@Leshaun2002 There's a really cool British tv show called Fake or Fortune (Be warned the show is COMPLETELY addictive) that did an episode on the painting trying to confirm who the artist was because there were a couple of conflicting accounts. They also delved into the life of Dido and her family.
Also, they are touching, wich indicates intimacy.
ArtemisScribe
Oooo that is nice! Thank you for sharing!
I actually saw this as a very racialized painting. The touch does not portray intimacy as much as it does ownership, imo. The two women may be on equal level, but there are other markers to indicate that Dido is a British colonial subject in the painting.
It's sad that her mother was slave but it's so great to see Dido be treated equally and with respect by the family! Especially during those times!
Mostly. She was always kind-of in limbo. If they didn't have any guests, she ate with the family, but if there were guests, she ate alone.
Dido was technically a slave until her uncle's passing. His will gave her her freedom.
88freedomwriter technically but she was raised as an equal as much as was allowed during that time period. He uncle guarantee she would never be kept as a Slavs after his death by legally granger her personal freedom as to prevent those who would try to kidnap in an attempt to enslave her.
@@sirennoir258 literally said her uncle paved the way for the abolishment of slavery in England and made sure she was free after his death.
@@skippymagrue She was in limbo due to the social mores of the times, as a daughter to unmarried parents. I am not sure that a white "bastard" would had be treated better in those circles.
Beautiful. You should have shown the actual portrait at the end.
I just said the same comment, surely copyright would allow for a short shot of it.
Google it under her name it's on Wiki.
Yeah. Just like what they did fir the girl with a pearl earring.
Kalliste Thanks 👍😊
100%
The actress you chose to play Dido was absolutely STUNNING!
Megan Rivera her name on Instagram is @iousas
@@zoomcherry8178 oooh thank you so much!!
Laila Mnii
I was going to say she also played plumette in beauty and the Beast and then I realized you mean the girl showing off the dresses and not Gugu Mbatha-Raw.
Ikr, I am so jealous, shes so gorgoeus
So lovely how their uncle made sure they were represented as equals in the portrait. They were beautiful ladies and more like sisters than cousins.
The actress playing Dido is wonderful!! Thank you guys!!
paige mclachlan her smile is so cute and precious
she's gorgeous
@@CrystalArtest Oh yes. What a beautiful woman.
She s on Instagram @iousas
*Finally* a “Getting Dressed in the ...” episode I can relate to! 😩🙏🏽 (As a mixed race woman who’s part British and African) 👸🏽
Unrelated but you are ethereal omg your so pretty!
❤️❤️❤️
how? she was so rare infact she was the only one, rest of them biracial would ended up in the plantation, maybe they should do that getting dressed for slave in plantation considering that millions of mixed race people worked there... while there was 1 biracial who dressed like this video
This is probably one of my favourite periods of historical clothing tbh
mine too. absolutely stunning.
I prefer the georgian era, but this is definetly my second favorite era.
Wendy Wright Victorian and Edwardian are actually my other two favourites.
1779 is within the “Georgian” era, as King “George” III was on the throne.
Sameee. I also like the Marie Antoinette court style gowns though (I know thats not what the style is called but I’m blanking rn 😅)
Thank you for representing us with a beautiful black woman! ❤️
The real Dido was gorgeous too!
@@omfug7148 As was the actress in the movie "Belle".
She’s mixed race
Seriously loved the movie about her life
wow I didn't know that! I'll try and watch it soon! 🤩🤩🤩
darkmerrygoround It’s really well done. One of my favorites.
@@christyrattay5213 Oooh! Can't wait for the weekend then!! 💖💖💖
what’s it called?
This is absolutely perfect! I wish we could get a curly hair tutorial for this, her hair is very pretty.
Yes! That would be awesome
I think it could be easier to achieve that hairstyle with curtly hair, than with thin straight hair, because you already have the volume and the fashionable curls
Nesseire a lot of the time people wore fake hair pieces back then! But I think the main body of the hairstyle needs to be straight to work- so perhaps straight hair that’s curled would be easier. (They could heat metal rods and curl their hair with them)
Do you mean Dido's hair. . . honey. She's black, that's her hair texture.
@@1Dispretty2me Obviously... the point was most hair tutorials that's on YT uses a model with straight hair. It would be nice to see one on a non-straight hair model. Her race is kind of irrelevant. 🤦🏾♀️
Amazed at how similar the actress playing Dido actually looks to Dido in the painting!
Omg I really thought that's was the real Dido 😭 but she looks just like her so stunning!!!
the painting has more masculine jaw (def from her father) this model had smaller jaw
the model/actress is absolutely gorgeous!
Love the scene where the servants strip Dido down to her undergarments. Notice how the stays, false rump, and petticoat have sort of a pink and purple color scheme going on at 2:19.
That wrap dress is stunning and comfortable looking! I would so wear that every day!
It's 3 am here but this absolute piece of art is worth it!
wow I read your comment exactly at 3 am
@@MartianCZ wow
Absolutely lovely! I really liked seeing the clothes coming off for a change, and the info about Dido's dress!
What a gorgeous video!!!
I would love to see a “getting dressed in the 1890s” dark Victorian gothic style for Halloween!!
Oh yes, please...
There are some videos on RUclips by other reenactors explaining mourning dress for Victorian women. It was a way to express emotions in a socially appropriate way, which was a big deal for women at the time.
Beautiful actresses and clothes and a really great video! I like that we got to have the traditional "getting dressed" format in reverse as Dido got ready for her portrait. The only thing I wish this had had was a side-by-side of the actresses and the portrait at the end. Great content!
I have that bodice...
in that fabric...
from that 18th-century pattern...
that I made!
That's so cool!
Viviane Allen #humblebrag much?
@@ElizaHamilton1780 if someone has the skill to do that I think they're entitled to brag a little! I could never sew but never really put the effort into learning much either. 😁
Having the same hair, I'd love to see tutorials for period hair-dos with (very) curly hair; most tutorials are done on straight hair and would require either starting with wet hair (making the outcome a surprise) or after at least 1 hour of straightening the hair first.
I like how gentle she is and make sure she doesn’t hurt herself or the women around her💜👍🏼
I love the portrait of Dido and Elizabeth! Even if the movie about her takes some liberties with history, the relationship between Dido and John Davinier is absolutely lovely. It's also neat to see a more relaxed, less layered dress for the time period.
@Kristen Irwin - Dido still had layers on under that gorgeous dress - her shift, her corset, her petticoats.
I have the privilege of seeing the actual portrait at Scone Palace, near Perth. Loved that we get to learn more about Dido and her cousin.
This is so beautiful these vintage clothes touched my heart in the best way. 👸🏻🏰
Both the young ladies are utterly charming!
It’s so cute when the two women link arms and smile at each other!!! ❤️
I couldn’t help but smile the whole time! There’s so much more I wish we knew about her!
This, alongside the Brunswick video, is my favorite Crow’s Eye video this far. Well done!
The brunswick is one of my favourites too.
Thank you for this video! It was beautifully done. And like another gal I am also a woman of color and appreciate the efforts to make the invisible visible. I am a re-enactor who focuses on 18th c and early 19 th century as well as early 20th century.
I always love a good late 18th century video ❤️
What a stunningly beautiful lady! She is simply exquisite.
This was great and the model is lovely,
This is making me so happy right now as a mixed girl who adore the movie based on her life : "Belle". 😍 I'm obssessed with XVIII century period drama such as this movie, "Poldark" 2015 series and the anime "The Rose Of Versailles". 💖 😍
ROSE OF VERSAILLES IS MY FAV ANIME
@@cutephantomJCAGdoll it's so good right ?😍
@@belle-ashton2167 Yes! I've been a fan for 5+ years
@@cutephantomJCAGdoll me too 😭❤
@@cutephantomJCAGdoll I edited Lady Oscar with "Belle" in my channel,are you interested ?^^
wish we could see a picture of the actual portrait
NoneofBizor JuliejT it’s in the rental movie or you can google it
Google is a thing
it's in the description
The movie, "Belle" shows the original portrait at the end. It is lovely!
Dido’s mother was not a mistress, she was a slave.
The young lady portraying Dido is beautiful. This is delightful and informative.
YAAAAAAAYY!!! I’m so excited, it’s finally up!!! Thank you!
I have been waiting for this for so long!! This is one of my favourite videos.
Adore the fabric and fastening details, as well as showing us a reinactment of historical characters in these videos! Just lovely!
In stead of the trending cosmetic surgery, this fashion should be brought back. Instant hourglass, no pain,no cost👌😀♥️
Because this outfit and all the ones like it cost absolutely nothing, didn't sometimes painfully squeeze your waist and chest, and gave you an hourglass figure through sorcery instead of crunching your midriff to the size of a doughnut
Hell no! Corsets are not known for being comfortable. Also dressing like this was only cool because you didn’t have to work at a job. Lol but I get what you are saying,
corsets hurt,,, a lot,
for people saying corsets hurt: no they didn't lol. working women wore corsets and stays all the time and they were meant to support the body, not cinch it. If a corset hurts its because it wasn't made it to measurement or the boning is wrong.
source: i wear corsets quite a bit for historical reenactment and also because they cause me less pain than bras, ironically
edit:// also I didn't mean to come off as so snarky, sorry :(
@@fishjenkins7257 it hurts.I wear them.
An exquisite story, beautiful cast and fab camera work. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏💋
What a stunning beauty. She's even more beautiful than Gugu Mbatha-Raw who played Dido in the movie (and that's saying something).
A very nice and well-made video, both educational and serving as a tribute to Dido (and Mansfield).
It's interesting to see the outfit being deconstructed from the outside in. Most historical costume vids work the other way, which is fine, but this way it's much easier to see how the layers work together.
Dido's Father John Lindsay was the first Captain of HMS Victory which is still preserved at Portsmouth Harbour today. The oldest commissioned warship in the world.
The HMS Victory of Trafalgar fame?
Yes the very same. She was built in 1765 and was already considered old when she fought at Trafalgar.
@@Apollo890 Thank you for your reply. I found it amazing how (you?) British completely dominated the seas for centuries. I don't know if it was that the royal navy had superior ships, the officers better training or what.
A combination of Officers being well trained, good ships but the most important factor was that Britain is an island. Because of this the nation was able to invest more so in its navy. Other European nations did not have this option as they had land borders to defend.
That's interesting, thanks for the info!
I loved seeing all the layers of clothing which Dido Elizabeth Belle wore. The pockets and the rump pad, which were tied around her waist looked familiar because I've seen them in other videos about historical women's dress. Thank you for sharing this video on RUclips!! It is very informative and interesting! Cheers! ~Janet in Canada
The woman portraying Dido is GORGEOUS.
This was so good!
I've been so excited for this video!! 5 seconds in and I'm already in love. Thank you for the amazing video as always!! :)
beautiful! her smile is contagious!
Belle married at 32, had 3 sons, and died at 43.
@@ReasonAboveEverything I do not know what caused her death. Little is known about her later life.
This was one of my favorite videos so far!
Thank you for another wonderful video 💗
i was just thinking about this series! i haven't had any notifications in months, but so glad i checked. whoever the model/actress that plays Dido - wow! in my 32 years on this planet, i've never been so respectfully struck. she's absolutely stunning. thanks for continuing this series.
Oh her name is laila mnii she is the model who is dido.
Absolutely beautiful video. Thank you.
Such a beautiful portrait! Masterpiece!
She's glowing! Love the video
I'd love to see how they styled and cared for the hair of people of color.
Kristina Ink Me In just say black people
We're black people not people of color 😊
Spiritual Being In no reason is this to be insensitive but are you more comfortable just being called black people? I’ve always felt weird because I have never wanted to use the wrong term. I’ve literally beat around the bush so many times on essays in school to avoid using the wrong term😂
@@GreenBanana675 Um, black people are poc?
@@morganhendler5770 No 😭 literally anyone not white is a poc
Love this thank you
I love Belle the movie. Thank you for making this
the woman playing dido is so beautiful and looks so much like dido in the portrait!
Lovely recreation! 💞💕💖
I’ve been following the development on instagram and it’s finally here!
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🤧thank you so much
Love this content!
Dido was absolutely *not* “treated equally”. Perhaps better than a Black woman (especially the daughter of an enslaved woman) would have been treated at the time in most cases, but let us not mistake lack of overt abuse and mistreatment for equality.
Even the composure of the portrait is telling. Certainly she is “higher up” than her cousin physically, but that is hardly a sign of equality. Look at Dido’s dress in comparison to Elizabeth’s. They’re playing up her “exoticism” (the gown, the turban, the feather) and her Otherness, and she is not positioned to look as composed and elegant as her cousin; she looks rather silly and frivolous. She is also bent over. Dido is in an outfit-for a portrait-that was worn “about the house”, when one had privacy. Lady Elizabeth is wearing proper attire for every day and going out. Dido is literally being exposed (by 18th century standards) in a piece of art. If I didn’t know who she was and I saw this portrait, I’d automatically recognize the social hierarchy and assume Dido was a slave and treated as such.
I usually love these videos but as a historian I do not appreciate the mismanaging and oversimplification of this story. It’s historically irresponsible. There was still a hierarchy at play and no matter the rulings of Lord Mansfield, Dido was never treated 100% the same or as her cousin’s true equal.
friarpark
I agree that she wasn’t likely to have been treated as absolutely equal, but I don’t see why the form of dress she is put in is an opposition to her. It seems more to me like a celebration of her cultural differences, rather than as a prop on an exotic show piece.
Iof you watch the research video it kind of clears that up as the painter kind of had this kind of style with contrast and I am sure her uncle wouldn't have allowed it she had a better life than most people in the 18th century regardless of ethnicity
Omfg thank you! This is exactly what I was thinking! If they were so equal why is she stooped over dressed like a servant holding a bowl while her cousin looks so elegant
@@nataliewisdom4790 if you look at the real painting, she is not holding a bowl there but a bouquet of flowers and her dress is silky and more luxurious looking!
Thank you, i thought the outfit and positionings was off the hand placement makes her look stupid, or that shes guessing or mischievous. I'm not trying to play the race card but she is told to do different things; dress, posture, behave then her cousin who is suppose to be her equal.
YAY!! I love this!
🌟Saw this movie!!!! ~Thank you for this!!!!
Loved the movie and this video is wonderful. 😍
Beautiful, thank you.
I love their relationship together it’s wholesome ^^
I love these videos!❤️
so beautiful love this 💖
Loved this, please keep making videos
This is so much better than the dido belle stitch in time episode thank you
this is also less accurate
Just lovely. I was aching to see a side by side of the end shot and the painting.
This was wonderful
Too short! I thoroughly enjoyed this but it left me wanting more. It’s so beautiful!
❤️, A Dorothy In Red Mary Janes
I’ve seen the famous film and read about her true life but I’ve always wondered about the outfit Dido wore in that painting. Thank you for this video going into detail!
It’s so beautiful ❤️
Such a nice video ...good job 😍
The portrait is so beautiful and I love how you recreated the sitting. Too bad we don't know more about this very interesting and lovely lady!
the fact that Lord Mansfield make sure Lady Elizabeth inherited £40,000 and Dido got £500 also very telling
@@samanthasmith61 Lady Elizabeth would have the large dowry to marry well, having Dido painted was nice, but Elizabeth’s future would’ve been thought of more
@@Skyebright1 i doubted she need a lot of money since she was married to (Elizabeth Finch)Lady Mansfield's nephew, George Finch Hatton, heir to Earl of winchilsea and Earl of Nottingham
@@Skyebright1 £40,000 and £500 "thought more" 💀 that's like Cinderella but worse, and what's make it worse is i done some research and someone wrote the economy of Lord Mansfield saying they were just outside the top 100 richest in England 💀..
and he gave Dido £500 for real!! that's less than what mr bennet gave Lydia £1000 and £100 annuity and he was nowhere near the richest list
Very interesting on how you did the dressing technique by undressing the model. Lovely video👭💖
Love it ♥️
I appreciate this video
Miss Mnii is so pretty in this video. I absolutely adore this!
PLS LET’S BRING THESE DRESSES BACK
Beautiful!
Thank you for telling us this interesting story! I didn't know about it.
ugh belle still is one of favourite movies
Wow! Beauuuutiful!❤️
Incredible story. Historic Data.
i love your channel
it's wonderful the attention to detail you put in your videos it really brings them to life.
Well Portrayed ☺️☺️💎💎just beautiful
Yes!! I love this story. Belle is one of my all time favorite films (not 100% accurate, I know, but still a great representation of the family). I recently visited Kenwood House for the first time.
Is the potrait there?
Absolutely beautiful