Hey everyone. This video was done in collab with Mr. Beat, who talks about how realistic it would be to start a country on Antarctica today. So go check that out. ruclips.net/video/laOb31H7ufQ/видео.html Also some of the art for this video was done by ABRRausch, check out more of her art here: twitter.com/RauschAB
wait what....the earth was 25F hotter than it is now????? B-but AOC says we only have like 10 years left now??? LOOOL XD Imagine if Al Gore made a video then, he'd be telling us to freak out over global cooling, too funny. Ok wait, im typing as im watching, now youre saying there was more CO2 than now, OMG how did anything ever survive XD Greta and the others should really watch this XD
do a video about this what if scenarios: the USSR joined the axis powers during WW2 what if the ottoman empire had a industrial revolution in parallel with Europe at the time the USA had the 1st communist revolution instead of Russia
the problem is that if the world would be 10°C warmer and Antarctica green, most of human development wouldnt have happend the same way as it is today and the sea level would be mutch higher.
There's a story called Green Antartica... The British tried just that, and the Natives, a group known as the Tsalal... Completely brutalized them all the way into England.
If we could have gotten many documentaries of either life millions of years in the future or even fictional alien planets like Darwin IV, surely green Antarctica would be prime material for documentaries.
A tropical land that is stuck in darkness for 4 months a year would support plants and fungi that have adapted to give off light, just like underwater and in caves and indeed some dense, dark jungles
Antarctica would’ve evolved to look like Pandora in Avatar. The animals would’ve been just as exotic too, and we would be fascinated with the continent.
@@sunshineimperials1600 Now I can just picture some spanish explorers stumbling across bio luminescent plants and think "whoa, look at these cool magic plants that glow in the dark! If we could cultivate these in the homeland they could provide an endless light source for our homes and city streets without need of candles or oil lamps!"
I think an green Antarctica would be like Alaska, only bigger. Dense centers of civilization with wast spaces of wilderness around it. And everyone either works in fishing, hunting, mineral extraction, nature tourism and producing reality TV-shows about all of the above.
If Antarctica was warm and green like Alaska humans would thrive there just like Alaska. You learn to survive where you are with what you're provided with. Our ancestors were the greatest McGuyvers. Settlers may have made all whale populations extinct though using whale oil to bright the night
New Zealand is named after the Dutch province of Zeeland, which means Sea Land. A name presumably chosen because it has a lot of sea between its land. It's basically a collection of peninsulas and islands.
I do remember when I was very young, that I thought the maps shown in class were just one side of the planet and there was a whole other side that we just didn't have many maps of. Imagine the disappointment when I found out.
It’d be a northern hemisphere vampire summer retreat. Seasons being switched over the months between north and south vampires would flee down there in June and come back in December
I love how you give the British Empire one of the best sentences in human history! (Allow me to clarify just so that it doesn't come off like I'm supportive of colonial conquest. I just love that sentence because it's very clever and fun. Not for the colonial sentiments it conveys.)
@CobaltMusketeer No... The Spanish, much less the French don’t possess the constitution necessary to properly civilize and keep such a land. “They’re a weak lot in Europe, you know-weak, feeble.” - Margaret Thatcher
Imagine an alternate history where Antarctica really didn’t have the ice and alternate history hub talks about another history where Antarctica was covered in ice
@@seanseen_ true I guess just comparing it to the European discovery of the Americas where they didn’t know about them at all and didn’t even guess they were there. Granted this was much later so people had a better understanding of how big the world is
Doesn't this fall under some survivorship bias? Lots of people throughout history have conjectured at all kinds of things. Some correct, some incorrect. We (collectively) tend to diminish the incorrect and emphasize the correct, especially to reinforce a narrative of intellectual superiority over "primitives" and pre-renaissance peoples.
Not going to lie, if the monotony of darkness during the night months was broken up by glowing mushrooms and auroras, I would live there. Sounds like a magical twilight forest, something out of a fantasy legend.
An continent where there is no sun for months? I could imagine that Bioluminescence could evolve there far more then on other continents. Imagine giant fields or even forests with glowing mushrooms.
The regions with extreme seasons will most likely still being tundra, Antarctic coasts have a similar latitude of Scandinavia and northern canada, places where you can still find boreal forests, none of them are bioluminescent, most of the gondwana biota in Antarctica lived around the coastline when the continent was closer to the ecuator, the The Magellanic subpolar forests in chile are the remains of Antarctica's ancient forests.
@@An-kw3ec “most of gondwana biota in Antarctica lived around the coastline” mate we don’t even know what kind of fossils are below those Antarctic ice sheets, and you out here assuming they all lived in the coastline? lol
I mean it kinda almost happens irl. maybe not tropical beaches, but the summers are getting scarily hotter and hotter every year in europe now, and finland and sweden have plenty of beaches and summers warm enough to enjoy them. it's actually warmer in most of the baltic sea in summer than the ocean off the coast of LA. Northern lights reach as far south as northern germany sometimes, and last summer it was anywhere between 30 and 40 C from may til september here, and up in the low 30's even in the northernmost parts of finland
Cameron Eridan the west coast of the US-thanks to the northern Cold pacific currents flowing south, compared to say the east coast and the gulf warm currents flowing north-pacific water is cold as fuck! Like...always. So your comment is totally believable.
@@RhodianColossus but here the thing. To see the lights you have to have a night and a dark one at that. The summer nights here in finnland are either no existant in the north or wery bright here in the south. And the light pollution from towns whic mostly are near to the coast makes that worse.
@@k3kboi665 the nights are not *that* bright in southern sweden and the southern coast of the Baltic. They get as dark as nights get anywhere else. The earliest ive ever seen twilight start was like quarter to 4 in the morning, and plenty of the baltic coast isn't completely light polluted. There are dark sky zones, theyre just not common
I once had a dream that I was in Antarctica, and it was settled. There were houses, stores, bars, everything. It was still cold as hell, but people decided to set up shop there. Now I want to make it happen.
i had a dream that i was stranded in Antarctica for some reason and i stumbled upon a lost civilization. they lived in a place that looked just like emerald city and everything in it was made out of ice. and everyone had light blue skin.
@@lalalablablabla2130 You sure? The people credited with first sight on Antarctica consisted of officers from the Russian and British navies, and some sealer from America
@@lalalablablabla2130 Those claims are not recognized internationally, the British would've claimed it for themselves, since they were there before Australia was even a independent nation.
Yeah, it’s not that different from what you get living on the Orkneys, or in northern Canada - where Orkney Islanders basically ran the fur trade for the Hudson’s Bay Company. Let’s add in another factor: the Irish Potato Famine of the 1840s. If the Brits allow Catholics to inherit property in Terra Australis, then they have a pool of up to a couple million people who might be willing to risk the journey to a new land.
And plenty of the fauna would probably have night vision too. Some herbivores might need to have either a fungi-inclusive diet, though, or long hibernation periods.
i can see some dutch colonie being floaded with baltic settlers comming trough the trade networks. sweden denmark and norway still have some ambition in the late 19th. then as the british french and dutch settlers leave for the winter the colony becomes more and more scandinavian
@@electricangel4488 that actually gives me an idea. Sweden was just as much a "colony" empire as england was back in the day, but the ultimately couldn't compete with england over the americas. But perhaps they'd find Antarctica to be a more favorable game. They'd send enslaved Finnish prisoners to work the land in the late winter, with the main Swedish colonists living in Antactica like the Spanish ruling over half-bloods in South-America. Perhaps with the existence of Swedish colonies down south, they'd have the financial stakes to compete with europe again, not abandoning the arms race after their defeat by Germanic tribes aiding Russia in the Second Northern War. ' Perhaps after the invention of electricity, the Swedish Colonies would become as prosperous as America was, with no competition, except for the polenesians (and I imagine the colonists would want as much help as they could during the endless nights, so they'd be forced to get along with the natives, unlike the americans who exploited their natives. So when the Colonists eventually break free of Sweden and become their own thing (which, looking at Greenland and Denmark, it might never actually happen, but the distance to travel may make it difficult to keep.) Perhaps to maintain trade and surplus with their most-southern Colony, Sweden will fight over the land in South Africa as a port town to store all the resources their colonies collect.
@@honeyham6788 ''Germanic tribes''? dont think sweden has the power of ability to get that mush naval power over a ocean that far away. there power likely be far more soft like portgual rulling brazil or the dutch rulling indonesia. sweden has always been fairly army based and there naval inovation where long gonne by the time this continent became a thing to my knowledge. the finnish and polynesians* indeed be possible as a lower cast but that whould recuire a luxury export society. Wich seems unlikely as antarticas ecosystem whould be closer to europe then south america and thuse no coffee, sugar, or tabaco, sugar is possible but likely not better then in the carribean. gold mines be possible but that ussualy has a boom afther discovery or the natives already use them. there for i think them more likely as a American colonial experiment. colonial cities on the coast that give land grants to farmer those farmers but high end goods from the mother country and sell raw materials like lumber or grain. It be realy simliar to canada in that regard.
@@electricangel4488 In the Second Great Northern War, Germany hadn't been formed yet, they were only a collection of Germanic Tribes. and while Sweden was busy pushing back Russian naval assaults, the Germanic tribes came in immediately after Russia pulled out, which exhausted Sweden to the point of surrendering, and as a result, stepped out of european politics altogether. yeah, fair. a Canadian style colony makes sense. Not sure what earth-y resources exist in the land. I'm pretty sure we're not allowed to mine in Antarctica so it's not something we'll likely find any time soon
@@honeyham6788 dude, they werent tribes, they were hundreds of actual kingdoms, bishoprics, and republics. Germans hadnt been tribal for centuries at that point.
What about the native Fuegians from Tierra del Fuego in southern Chile/Argentina? They would travel between islands in canoes and if there was a tropical coast in nearby Antarctica that would mean warmer water, and they could possibly have made it to the land mass before even the Maori, or have formed a Madagascar-like mix of cultures/people if they colonised at similar times to the Maori. Two people groups from opposite sides of the earth living together and mixing on Antarctica would be a really cool scenario.
Well, that is if they ever actually met. I love the idea of a mix between those two cultures, but there's an entire continent separating them and I'm not sure either is very keen on exploring the entire thing.
Cool thought! Given enough time, I think the two groups would meet. Think of these two cultures, morphed to adapt to the extreme seasons, living amongst the Pokémon under the aurora! 💚😎
Yes @NewBenCitu the Fueginos people was only detereth by the climate, they had plenty of time to set a colony if the Antarida was little more than a frozen dessert.
apparently there was a expidention around 650ad where a bunch of maori went down south past nz and apparently sighted antartica by a chief named Hui Te Rangiora
“Even if the ice didn’t wiped out these creatures, humans would have” Extreme day and night cycles preventing full colonization: imma stop you right there
Are you kidding me? The night and day cycles don't really matter. A good example of a modern populous city for Antarctica is Tromsø, Norway. It has a population of over 70,000 and is 69.6° N. It was declared a city in 1794, and even in that time period it was often referred to as the Paris of the North. It doesn't have daylight in December, but has twilight in December and a few hours of sunlight in November and January, that would be flipped for Antarctica. About 70°S in Antarctica would be half of Palmer Land, the Antarctic Peninsula or an eight of Wilkes Land, the whole East Coast of Antarctica. Tromsø today is powered by hydroelectricity from fjords which Antarctica does have, and if there ever was a frozen winter, Sweden uses nuclear in the winter and of course there is coal. And if you want to think of more extremes with large animals like Polar Bears and more barren land maybe for central Antarctica, then Longyearbyen in Svalbard (Norway) is a good example for the near center of Antarctica which is 78°N but in this case would be 78°S. Norway today is advanced, has healthy people with low poverty, respects the land, animals and natives (Sami) so I think they'd have a good chance in this Antarctica. Maybe another country could try to run it like Tromsø or Longyearbyen though. You don't have to have sunlight for a successful human city, not everyone gets depressed in the dark, I was up there for three months in the winter (but in Sweden), I thought it was awesome. Even if it was round the year darkness, these days they could have a fjord powered black light system for farms. It would look kind of sci fi.
@@alterbr33d you do know that what you’re talking about only applies to the modern day, right? We’re talking about colonization during the colonial periods, before the industrial revolution
@@xuanluu4873 Tromsø was declared a city a few decades after the start of the industrial revolution and your OP mentioned colonization which doesn't have to be the same as the colonial period, places could be colonized in the early 1800s too. After lots of revolutions, Antarctica could be seen as the last haven of colonization.
The German empire too! Instead of settling for pacific island scraps and the remaining bits of Africa, they could launch massive colonization fleets to Antarctica. The continent is so massive I doubt the British (or French) would have anything resembling enough control to keep the British out. I can see the US getting in on things too.
@@arnehurnik He specifically said he was pretending that the rest of the world was unchanged despite the massive changes this would entail. Obviously that doesn't really make sense but it's pretty much impossible to say anything about what the history would be like otherwise so might as well
@VermillionJaktheSecond Spain could have perfectly had colonized the part of Antartica closer to the South Cone, after all, they were the first to colonize Argentina and Chile
Thanks for collaborating with me. :) Now, for everyone reading this....I am starting my own country in Antarctica. Join me! Let's all get there before the bloody British do!
Lemme Put all the necessary supplies and the Yacht In C-17 All Wood and steel are mine You Bring food supplies No need of Run stript there _Airports are Capitalist Propaganda_ Meet you there on Ross Sea Coast
I used to get annoyed at jokes like this. Then I realized the US really is securing word oil supplies and people don't give a shit. Now I'm annoyed that people don't give a shit.
Not to be "that guy", but most of the human caused extinctions around that time period had nothing to do with hunting, or blasting anything. It was the introduction of things like cats, from european ecosystems, to places they didn't belong naturally. For instance: The famous case of the cat, killing the dodo bird off, the largest bird in existence at the time, which also had the side effect of killing off the biggest flying bird at the time, the haast giant eagle. People around that time period didn't really have the concept even in their mind of the consequence of the innocent things they brought with them, that in the long term, weren't as innocent as they thought; it was ignorance to them, not malice. And short of some people like cunts like Cortez, that also - wasn't how most all of the early contact happened with natives; especially where British explorers were concerned.
I think the first ones to arrive would actually be from Tierra del Fuego in South America, since it is quite closer to Antarctica and it is probable they visited the continent before it was officialy "discovered". The Maori would probably colonize the other side of the continent too. Given enough time they'd probably turn into a whole separate community, meaning Antarctica would have a native indigenous population.
Tbh I don’t think the Māori would colonized the other side, native Americans produced very fast in those times like by the time the Māori people reach Antarctica it will already have millions of people in it already no room for Māori people to colonize it! Also they cannot handle the cold, native Americans can as native Americans adapted to many echo systems in the Americas while the Māori people live in only tropical places, and New Zealand is just mid cold!
That's what I was thinking. Northern Norway disproves a lot of what he said with the exception of a far reaching Navy. A good example of a modern populous city for Antarctica is Tromsø, Norway. It has a population of over 70,000 and is 69.6° N. It was declared a city in 1794, and even in that time period it was often referred to as the Paris of the North. It doesn't have daylight in December, but has twilight in December and a few hours of sunlight in November and January, that would be flipped for Antarctica. About 70°S in Antarctica would be half of Palmer Land, the Antarctic Peninsula or an eight of Wilkes Land, the whole East Coast of Antarctica. Tromsø today is powered by hydroelectricity from fjords which Antarctica does have, and if there ever was a frozen winter, Sweden uses nuclear in the winter and of course there is coal. And if you want to think of more extremes with large animals like Polar Bears and more barren land maybe for central Antarctica, then Longyearbyen in Svalbard (Norway) is a good example for the near center of Antarctica which is 78°N but in this case would be 78°S. Norway today is advanced, has healthy people with low poverty, respects the land, animals and natives (Sami) so I think they'd have a good chance in this Antarctica. Maybe another country could try to run it like Tromsø or Longyearbyen though. You don't have to have sunlight for a successful human city, not everyone gets depressed in the dark, I was up there for three months in the winter (but in Sweden), I thought it was awesome.
*and what do those reindeer eat?...they trip out consuming hallucinogenic lichen because there's not much else to do when you're a reindeer and you have no other hobbies apart from producing other reindeer in your spare time*
And we also have no place to ship the Blob to either. Welp...time to colonize another star system cuz I don't trust the Moon Spiders or whatever drives the tripods on Mars! Just avoid Tau Ceti....I rather not run into the self centered Lizards of The Race.
I personally think that agriculture would be possible on Antarctica, seeing that there is agriculture in the very north of Norway, where there isn't any sunlight either during the winter.
I love thinking about how mystical and strange the culture of "Terra Australia" Natives would be. With so much land and resource they would likely parallel closely to Native North Americans, but with their roots and history based around the sea like the Polynesians, maybe bearing similarity to ancient Greeks. The harsh and curious fauna would definitely create two entirely distinct worlds during the long night and the long day, and presumably the culture would be completely enveloped in the theme of dichotomy. The god of day and the god of night would both be seen as kind and cruel in different ways, and both of their servants would be terrifying beasts who hibernate half the year and never see each other, maybe thought to be shapeshifters.
*perhaps during the dark periods of the year most of the civilization would willingly migrate underground leaving only a garrison/contingent above to guard the cities and protect the borders only to develop heightened senses over time and prefer the darkness over the light present for the rest of the year*
Honestly I think you are greatly overplaying the difficulty of dealing with the day/night cycle. People do live above the arctic circle. It is a thing people can and do adapt to, even with the very cold winters. Plus a warm Antarctica would probably be as resource rich as Australia, giving colonists plenty of reason to live their.
Also Australia was pretty uninhabitable and weird (the seasons are backwards! There's no snow! The soil has no nutrients! The trees are the wrong shape!) and the only reasons colonists needed were "You are a criminal, it's this or the noose."
"What if the Moon was a habitable world all throughout human evolution?" Imagine humans since the caveman days all the way to our modern times looking up to the night sky to see a full moon that is green, brown and blue. Now... 1. How radically different religion would be? 2. Would we still have the massive wars throughout history? 3. Would technology had advanced faster because of humankind's desire to explore the unexplored?
In parts of Greenland they also live in darkness for some months of the year, and humans have lived there for millenia, adapting their lifestyle accordingly.
YES. Or, I'm also picturing one of Drew Durnil's AI history-game battles, where random countries or U.S. states or whatever keep trying to take over Antarctica from each other and the subcontinent's map colour changes like a strobe light... (Has he done one like that? He's done "all jungle world" but I don't think Antarctica was part of the map in that one...)
Dude, your whole video is an entire experience. The music, the perfect pronunciation, the genial selection of images and design of the graphic representation. Thank you for this!
18th century explorer: Land Ho! A land of green vegetation and wondrous beasts. Ship Captain: Send a landing party to see if there's a natural harbor for us. Sailor: What's that, moving toward the landing party? Marine: It's attacking! It's EATING the landing party! Ship Captain: This land has dangerous beasts. Get the survivors on board, we're heading back to Australia to raise an armed expedition to deal with the animals. Explorer: Have you ever seen animals like those before, Captain? Ship Captain: Never in all my years. Good God, there's a huge lying animal! Sailor: Captain, there's something moving n the water! Ship Captain: Ready the guns, it's some kind of sea monster!
Fun fact: My great-great-great grandfather has a tiny mountain range named after him in Antarctica. Look up the Zittel Cliffs. I don’t think he ever even went there.
Baron of Bahlingen that's more verifiable info than the entire 20 minutes of guessing who would settle where and do what in green antarctica. thanks, dawwg
Ahmed Shaharyar Ejaz He was a palaeontologist, no clue why they chose an Antarctic cliff after him. He proved that the Sahara was an ocean far longer ago than previously believed.
Iceland barely has trees and it has more glacier than grass. Though the reason Greenland was named greenland, was because one of the vikings was trying to lure people into settling there. So yeah the name is an actual lie lmao
@@are3287 @Gavros963 www.smithsonianmag.com/history/why-greenland-vikings-vanished-180962119/ "They discovered Greenland during a time known as the Medieval Warm Period, which lasted from about 900 to 1300. Sea ice decreased during those centuries, so sailing from Scandinavia to Greenland became less hazardous. Longer growing seasons made it feasible to graze cattle, sheep and goats in the meadows along sheltered fjords on Greenland’s southwest coast. In short, the Vikings simply transplanted their medieval European lifestyle to an uninhabited new land, theirs for the taking."
Same although I lost interest when the author ended up turning the tsalal from a creepy albeit interesting civillisation to a mess of walking atrocities and lovecraft references
Oh god, that still gives me nightmares. I stopped reading it after the author introduced chupacabra saliva and *all the interesting ways it could be imbibed* as a drug.
Specifically on the agriculture topic, it begs the question that the “New Australia” would also set forth new agricultural staples; crops, and cattle specifically. I could entirely see marsupial cattle (ones that have adapted to the dual-season ecosystem) that fulfill the niche of cow/sheep/goat I would also assume there’d be a unique staple crop that resembles maize/amaranth but would be uniquely adapted to long seasons and winter hardiness (much like winter wheat). Love the concept videos!!
Hey, at least if Antarctica would be a green continent with no glaciers, the flattists could not claim that it is a ring of ice guarded by the government XD
Well the flat earth would still find reasons for their beliefs such as the goverments of the world putting a special barrier zone that doesn't allow anyone to tress pass
I feel like, as masaman pointed out, the native people of Cape Horn would have made it to Antarctica as well (if not earlier than Polynesians), since they're really the only humans biologically adapted for anything close to antarctic conditions. Who knows, maybe their hardiness combine with Polynesian mastery of sailing would've made for some cool native Antarcticans. And then the Europeans show up with the small pox.
The Patagonians would have been very close to the Antarctic Peninsula although the Falklands weren't that far either and they weren't settled. The strongest point for the Patagonians would be that the Drake Passage would likely be much calmer since the reason Antarctica froze over 35 million years ago was the rise of the circumpolar current that creates the fierce, stormy frozen seas around it. The continent is cut off from warm southerly currents today. A green Antarctica would have warm tropical currents reaching its shores and the Drake Passage would not be the eternal narrow choke point for one of the earth's mightiest coldest flows of water. It might well have currents but nothing as bonkers as it does in our timeline. A Patagonian fishing culture might discover it but the Polynesians absolutely would have. Unlike Cody's prediction, they might have spread along the entire shoreline quickly since they were a seafaring culture, only venturing inland later. European contact with the Polynesians would probably have happened on the Antarctic Peninsula or perhaps along the coast of the south Atlantic.
I too kind of wish this Alternate timeline was real. Even if it would mess with the history of humanity, it would be cool to have such a bizarre content with all of it's strange and unique forms of life.
11:33 "New Holland, which is don't think anyone really would have stuck with" Well, it worked for New Zealand, which is named after the dutch province of Zeeland.
I feel like the megafauna of Antarctica might do well. The Polynesians would send many scouting missions there, and the first campsites would be abandoned upon the coming of the long night. This would allow the animals to adapt to the presence of humans, while also having time afterwards to rebuild. And the on-and-off colonization of the Europeans would allow them to slowly adapt to humans with firearms. I think that Antarctica would be tied with Africa for the wildest continent.
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Hey everyone. This video was done in collab with Mr. Beat, who talks about how realistic it would be to start a country on Antarctica today. So go check that out. ruclips.net/video/laOb31H7ufQ/видео.html
Also some of the art for this video was done by ABRRausch, check out more of her art here: twitter.com/RauschAB
wait what....the earth was 25F hotter than it is now????? B-but AOC says we only have like 10 years left now??? LOOOL XD Imagine if Al Gore made a video then, he'd be telling us to freak out over global cooling, too funny. Ok wait, im typing as im watching, now youre saying there was more CO2 than now, OMG how did anything ever survive XD Greta and the others should really watch this XD
AlternateHistoryHub what if plans were never invented
What if the bay of pigs was a successful operation and wasn’t a blemish on the Kennedy administration?
do a video about this what if scenarios:
the USSR joined the axis powers during WW2
what if the ottoman empire had a industrial revolution in parallel with Europe at the time
the USA had the 1st communist revolution instead of Russia
Speculative biology is fun. Do more.
Britain: “Gentleman you had my curiosity but now you have my attention”
Suddenly cannibals.
I think it be sliced up before one country could take full control.
more like now you have my erection
british empire: hippity hoppity antarctica is my property
Doesn't the queen own enough countries already ... Keep your hands off Brits out !
“What if Antarctica was a green continent?”
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For the empire!
Local Wildlife: Why do I hear boss music?
@Ted Hubert Pagnanawon Crusio Antartica has a shit ton of oil more than Russia. There's just a drilling ban treaty at the moment
the problem is that if the world would be 10°C warmer and Antarctica green, most of human development wouldnt have happend the same way as it is today and the sea level would be mutch higher.
There's a story called Green Antartica... The British tried just that, and the Natives, a group known as the Tsalal... Completely brutalized them all the way into England.
I desperately need someone to make a fake nature documentary based on this scenario
I approve this and leave a dot for being notified if that happen .
If someone could make a movie or Netflix series about people in this hypothetical environment, I would be eternally grateful.
If we could have gotten many documentaries of either life millions of years in the future or even fictional alien planets like Darwin IV, surely green Antarctica would be prime material for documentaries.
narrated by morgan freeman?
Read the timeline Green Antartica. It's creepy, lovecraftian, but it is very good with biology.
A tropical land that is stuck in darkness for 4 months a year would support plants and fungi that have adapted to give off light, just like underwater and in caves and indeed some dense, dark jungles
And literally every plant and fish in Subnautica
Antarctica would’ve evolved to look like Pandora in Avatar. The animals would’ve been just as exotic too, and we would be fascinated with the continent.
@@sunshineimperials1600 Now I can just picture some spanish explorers stumbling across bio luminescent plants and think "whoa, look at these cool magic plants that glow in the dark! If we could cultivate these in the homeland they could provide an endless light source for our homes and city streets without need of candles or oil lamps!"
@@711truther6 so perhaps no electricity?
Pandora on Earth
People in Terra Australis:
Human: What if Australia was all ice?
Alternate AlternateHistoryHub: Humans wouldn't exist
Azuma Kyoukai plenty of ice in Australia
Azuma Kyoukai
Dick snorter
Treat of Australia. In most cases giant continents tend to get sliced up before fully controlled by one country.
I think an green Antarctica would be like Alaska, only bigger. Dense centers of civilization with wast spaces of wilderness around it. And everyone either works in fishing, hunting, mineral extraction, nature tourism and producing reality TV-shows about all of the above.
I just said the same thing but with more embelishment.
@Bangbabangbabangbang Alaska is green in the South.
@Bangbabangbabangbang yes, but they poured money because of G O L D and O I L
Bangbabangbabangbang Alaska has a ton of resources. And agriculture is possible on the coast.
If Antarctica was warm and green like Alaska humans would thrive there just like Alaska. You learn to survive where you are with what you're provided with. Our ancestors were the greatest McGuyvers. Settlers may have made all whale populations extinct though using whale oil to bright the night
Cody: "New Holland, which I dont think anyone would have stuck with"
New Zealand: "Am I a joke to you?"
Nub93 thats brittish
@@nullskull-everything5495 this was once called nieuw Amsterdam (in dutch)
Louis G yeah i know that, i took 7th grade history ya know
😂
New Zealand is named after the Dutch province of Zeeland, which means Sea Land. A name presumably chosen because it has a lot of sea between its land. It's basically a collection of peninsulas and islands.
I do remember when I was very young, that I thought the maps shown in class were just one side of the planet and there was a whole other side that we just didn't have many maps of.
Imagine the disappointment when I found out.
SAME
That's kind of what flat earthers believe lol
That makes a good scenario actually
life is dissapointing sometimes
Just like in Neopets
Humans: *discover uninhabited landmass*
Megafauna: *chuckles* _I’m in danger._
Antarctica:*has no sun for months
Vampires: I found my winter get away
Abram Gafford but it will still be cold so
Someone: uses garlic on vampire
It’d be a northern hemisphere vampire summer retreat. Seasons being switched over the months between north and south vampires would flee down there in June and come back in December
Antartica: is full of fauna and warm
British Empire: "Hippity Hoppity this land is now British property"
not warm.. but green-ish, its still the south pole after all. so pack some ticc socks before.
*Has an indigenous population*
Britain: "So anyway i started blasting"
The spanish: make a note of that country's bravado
British East Antarctica
I love how you give the British Empire one of the best sentences in human history!
(Allow me to clarify just so that it doesn't come off like I'm supportive of colonial conquest. I just love that sentence because it's very clever and fun. Not for the colonial sentiments it conveys.)
“What if Antarctica was a green continent?”
The British Empire: You know the rules and so do I.
The Sun for 4 months: Say goodbye
never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down
And hurt you
@@karthikcv8104 the sun finally sets on the British empire.
@@karthikcv8104 The Brits are not used to seeing the Sun anyways
"No sun for months would be a real difficulty for human settlement."
Nordics *Am I a joke to you?*
The nord don't live far enough North to experience that.
Northern Alaskans and Canadians: *are we a joke to you?*
In pre-electricity times, at least the Scandinavians got a couple of hours of light each day in winter to get shit done.
@@mobeenkhan824
Yes but they live far enough north to experience the closest thing to it.
@@mobeenkhan824 visot north norway and youll see
What if Antarctica was green? ...short answer: “British sovereign territory.”
The Tsalal say hello.
Also rocket toting necrophiles.
Dominion of Antarctica
True
@CobaltMusketeer No... The Spanish, much less the French don’t possess the constitution necessary to properly civilize and keep such a land.
“They’re a weak lot in Europe, you know-weak, feeble.”
- Margaret Thatcher
Imagine an alternate history where Antarctica really didn’t have the ice and alternate history hub talks about another history where Antarctica was covered in ice
There is one
tmt_04 “well you see, if antartica was covered in ice, Burundi couldnt be superpower”
@@cryopex9976 XD
My poor brain
I would like to get teleported to the zealandia universe
It blows my mind how people basically guessed that Australia and Antarctica existed before ever having a clue they were real
Well look at it this way.. it was a guess but some though behind it kid of made sense.
I mean they just assumed there must be more land somewhere
@@seanseen_ true I guess just comparing it to the European discovery of the Americas where they didn’t know about them at all and didn’t even guess they were there. Granted this was much later so people had a better understanding of how big the world is
Doesn't this fall under some survivorship bias? Lots of people throughout history have conjectured at all kinds of things. Some correct, some incorrect. We (collectively) tend to diminish the incorrect and emphasize the correct, especially to reinforce a narrative of intellectual superiority over "primitives" and pre-renaissance peoples.
@@Lawrence330 Indeed, you're right
Britain : Australis is too far, we cant transport colonists
Portugal : observe
🇵🇹
I dont understand why he didnt mention the portuguese.
@@oldmanlogan9616 i guess Brazil but then France should be put
Unimmature Timor Leste and Mozambique?????
@@sportsfails4998 still not that far
Not going to lie, if the monotony of darkness during the night months was broken up by glowing mushrooms and auroras, I would live there. Sounds like a magical twilight forest, something out of a fantasy legend.
I'm guessing an alternate universe version of myself lives in that mystical place.
For the first few days you would enjoy it.
Described like this it sound like Ghibli movie.
Itd be like Skyrim and Morrowind combined!
Until you experience the bane of all northerners, extreme lack of vitamin D
" what if Antarctica was a green continent ? "
Britain: Well hippity hoppity, this will be my property
For only half the year.
No "Britains". A much smaller island, not likely to spawn such a nation.
@@0311Mushroom r/wooosh
*Sun sets*
Britain: Fackinell!
The sun sets in this half of the british empire
An continent where there is no sun for months? I could imagine that Bioluminescence could evolve there far more then on other continents. Imagine giant fields or even forests with glowing mushrooms.
*ohhh, look at all the colors*
@@scottmantooth8785 Beautiful
new idea for my dnd campaign
The regions with extreme seasons will most likely still being tundra, Antarctic coasts have a similar latitude of Scandinavia and northern canada, places where you can still find boreal forests, none of them are bioluminescent, most of the gondwana biota in Antarctica lived around the coastline when the continent was closer to the ecuator, the The Magellanic subpolar forests in chile are the remains of Antarctica's ancient forests.
@@An-kw3ec “most of gondwana biota in Antarctica lived around the coastline” mate we don’t even know what kind of fossils are below those Antarctic ice sheets, and you out here assuming they all lived in the coastline? lol
Unique Animals: (Exist)
Humans: Oh boy here I go killing again...
Humans: "How can we ruin this?"
Rick and Morty
Philippine flag 🇵🇭
well... the ice did it this time so... may be the humans could save a specie or two
Humans: "So anyway I started blasting"
Green Antarctica: *exists*
British Empire: It’s free real estate!
Oil: *Exists*
USA : Time to liberate the opessed
@Cassien Martineau I can actually see this happening
Claire Ueda Europe just needs to pull a classic Germany and yall will be fine. I mean it seems like the parties are already taken place to do so
Regular British: "The sun shall never set on the British Empire"
British Antarctic Colonist: "Hello darkness my old friend"
Imagine all the fucking tea and spices you could grow there?
Imagine how wild it would be to see the aurora on a tropical beach
I mean it kinda almost happens irl. maybe not tropical beaches, but the summers are getting scarily hotter and hotter every year in europe now, and finland and sweden have plenty of beaches and summers warm enough to enjoy them. it's actually warmer in most of the baltic sea in summer than the ocean off the coast of LA.
Northern lights reach as far south as northern germany sometimes, and last summer it was anywhere between 30 and 40 C from may til september here, and up in the low 30's even in the northernmost parts of finland
Cameron Eridan the west coast of the US-thanks to the northern Cold pacific currents flowing south, compared to say the east coast and the gulf warm currents flowing north-pacific water is cold as fuck! Like...always.
So your comment is totally believable.
Ah just got to wait a while and make sure to use a lot of fossil fuels 😊
@@RhodianColossus but here the thing. To see the lights you have to have a night and a dark one at that. The summer nights here in finnland are either no existant in the north or wery bright here in the south. And the light pollution from towns whic mostly are near to the coast makes that worse.
@@k3kboi665 the nights are not *that* bright in southern sweden and the southern coast of the Baltic. They get as dark as nights get anywhere else. The earliest ive ever seen twilight start was like quarter to 4 in the morning, and plenty of the baltic coast isn't completely light polluted. There are dark sky zones, theyre just not common
I once had a dream that I was in Antarctica, and it was settled. There were houses, stores, bars, everything. It was still cold as hell, but people decided to set up shop there. Now I want to make it happen.
Siberia or Alaska may be the place for you. ;)
i had a dream that i was stranded in Antarctica for some reason and i stumbled upon a lost civilization. they lived in a place that looked just like emerald city and everything in it was made out of ice. and everyone had light blue skin.
There's an online story called Green Antarctica which is lovecraftian mixed with document style writing
Dear God no. That's terrible.
We don't need to
A large unclaimed habitable landmass likely containing massive oil and mineral reserves? *star spangled banner starts blasting*
@United States China and Russia: Hahaha
*Building secret bases intensifies*
Most of Antarctica belongs to Australia. They found it well before America
@@lalalablablabla2130 You sure? The people credited with first sight on Antarctica consisted of officers from the Russian and British navies, and some sealer from America
America needs all that oil to come bail your asses out of the next world war you people start.
@@lalalablablabla2130 Those claims are not recognized internationally, the British would've claimed it for themselves, since they were there before Australia was even a independent nation.
These theoretical Antarctican mammals resemble Pokemon.
Mega sloth I choose you!
Green Antarctica is actually the Pokemon World, that’s why there’s usually never any night in the Pokemon games.
@@innosam123 sun and moon: *am I a joke to you*
*Chinpokomon
@Aidan Millward and some of these theoretical Antarctican boulders resemble Cozzeh DFVs.
Green Antarctica is discovered.
British: Hipity hopity this land is now my pro...
Sun leaves.
British: Oh hell no
Yeah, it’s not that different from what you get living on the Orkneys, or in northern Canada - where Orkney Islanders basically ran the fur trade for the Hudson’s Bay Company.
Let’s add in another factor: the Irish Potato Famine of the 1840s. If the Brits allow Catholics to inherit property in Terra Australis, then they have a pool of up to a couple million people who might be willing to risk the journey to a new land.
I’m ur first subscriber
@@iamarizonaball2642 Nobody Cares
Sun never sets on the British Empire... unless they were in Antarctica
The empire were the sun only rises like half the times
The crops during the summer would grow to massive sizes due to the constant summer, similar to alaska, which holds many records for vegetable sizes
I can imagine a land with that long of nights and a decent climate would have a load of bioluminescence
And plenty of the fauna would probably have night vision too. Some herbivores might need to have either a fungi-inclusive diet, though, or long hibernation periods.
@@nicolaszan1845 What's more scary than not being able to see at night? Knowing huge killer animals can see you clear as day at 200 yards.
@Aspiring Marauder bruh have you seen Australian, we have tiny kangaroo like mice with bright lime green shrubs that taste like sweet bubblegum.
...we have it in scandinavia. and no, we don't have it.
AHH: *talking about the long dark winters*
me, a nordic person: HA! Smells like home!
i can see some dutch colonie being floaded with baltic settlers comming trough the trade networks. sweden denmark and norway still have some ambition in the late 19th.
then as the british french and dutch settlers leave for the winter the colony becomes more and more scandinavian
@@electricangel4488 that actually gives me an idea. Sweden was just as much a "colony" empire as england was back in the day, but the ultimately couldn't compete with england over the americas. But perhaps they'd find Antarctica to be a more favorable game. They'd send enslaved Finnish prisoners to work the land in the late winter, with the main Swedish colonists living in Antactica like the Spanish ruling over half-bloods in South-America.
Perhaps with the existence of Swedish colonies down south, they'd have the financial stakes to compete with europe again, not abandoning the arms race after their defeat by Germanic tribes aiding Russia in the Second Northern War. '
Perhaps after the invention of electricity, the Swedish Colonies would become as prosperous as America was, with no competition, except for the polenesians (and I imagine the colonists would want as much help as they could during the endless nights, so they'd be forced to get along with the natives, unlike the americans who exploited their natives. So when the Colonists eventually break free of Sweden and become their own thing (which, looking at Greenland and Denmark, it might never actually happen, but the distance to travel may make it difficult to keep.) Perhaps to maintain trade and surplus with their most-southern Colony, Sweden will fight over the land in South Africa as a port town to store all the resources their colonies collect.
@@honeyham6788
''Germanic tribes''?
dont think sweden has the power of ability to get that mush naval power over a ocean that far away.
there power likely be far more soft like portgual rulling brazil or the dutch rulling indonesia.
sweden has always been fairly army based and there naval inovation where long gonne by the time this continent became a thing to my knowledge. the finnish and polynesians* indeed be possible as a lower cast but that whould recuire a luxury export society. Wich seems unlikely as antarticas ecosystem whould be closer to europe then south america and thuse no coffee, sugar, or tabaco, sugar is possible but likely not better then in the carribean.
gold mines be possible but that ussualy has a boom afther discovery or the natives already use them.
there for i think them more likely as a American colonial experiment. colonial cities on the coast that give land grants to farmer those farmers but high end goods from the mother country and sell raw materials like lumber or grain. It be realy simliar to canada in that regard.
@@electricangel4488 In the Second Great Northern War, Germany hadn't been formed yet, they were only a collection of Germanic Tribes. and while Sweden was busy pushing back Russian naval assaults, the Germanic tribes came in immediately after Russia pulled out, which exhausted Sweden to the point of surrendering, and as a result, stepped out of european politics altogether.
yeah, fair. a Canadian style colony makes sense. Not sure what earth-y resources exist in the land. I'm pretty sure we're not allowed to mine in Antarctica so it's not something we'll likely find any time soon
@@honeyham6788 dude, they werent tribes, they were hundreds of actual kingdoms, bishoprics, and republics. Germans hadnt been tribal for centuries at that point.
"The Dutch called it new Holland because ofcourse they did"
Ofcourse we did everything was new Holland till the Brits came to ruin the fun
SkyWolf CARNAGE don’t worry we dealt with them in the revolutionary war 😒 they still didn’t fuck off
New York was once New Netherland with New Amsterdam as its capital lmao
I think they knew the British where on their ass and spread their bets
Grow me my tea!
Of course is two words
“What if Antarctica Was a Green Continent”
Britain: MINE
Spain and France not if I have anything to say about it
Hipity Hoping, this land is bow my Property
Rule Britannia exe
Britian: It all belongs to me everything you see
2015: Intense techno-ambient music
2019: Chill Jazz
I like both
yeah...that's exactly what you would hear while walking around in a Green Antarctica
Ya like jazz?
As soon as you mentioned the shrooms thriving, I imagined that Anartica would basically be Morrowind.
Or a mushroom biome from terraria
@@ADMICKEY insert rad mushroom biome soundtrack
I’m cool with this. Just as long as there’s no cliff racers
I imagined a bunch of bioluminescence mushrooms and plant/animal life and it was pretty in my head.
@@JoshdaKnight don't worry. Juib made them extinct
"Antarctica is green +oil discovered"
US: That land needs freedom.
Us: hold my beer..
Time to manifest some destiny
@@ChineduOpara that's better
The world must learn of our peaceful ways. By Force
@@Euphoric_Toast
It is the only way.
The creature design shown here is incredible.
“Good Lord, what is happening in there!”
“Aurora Australis?”
“May I see it?”
"...No"
@@derfakegangster "Seymour! The land is on fire!"
“Oh no, it’s just the southern lights.”
"Well Seymour, you are a very weird person, but you sure can make a good steamed ham"
What about the native Fuegians from Tierra del Fuego in southern Chile/Argentina? They would travel between islands in canoes and if there was a tropical coast in nearby Antarctica that would mean warmer water, and they could possibly have made it to the land mass before even the Maori, or have formed a Madagascar-like mix of cultures/people if they colonised at similar times to the Maori. Two people groups from opposite sides of the earth living together and mixing on Antarctica would be a really cool scenario.
Well, that is if they ever actually met. I love the idea of a mix between those two cultures, but there's an entire continent separating them and I'm not sure either is very keen on exploring the entire thing.
Cool thought! Given enough time, I think the two groups would meet. Think of these two cultures, morphed to adapt to the extreme seasons, living amongst the Pokémon under the aurora! 💚😎
Yes @NewBenCitu the Fueginos people was only detereth by the climate, they had plenty of time to set a colony if the Antarida was little more than a frozen dessert.
apparently there was a expidention around 650ad where a bunch of maori went down south past nz and apparently sighted antartica by a chief named Hui Te Rangiora
let ne guess... southern american trying to remind the world that there were natives in their lands?
I feel like some animals and plants would’ve evolved some killer bioluminescence.
It would’ve just been a land of light up skechers.
Yeetur McBeetur real morrowind hours. Mushroom houses when?
Jackson Almodobar I mean, basically.
Will smurfs evolve over there?
Some Guy probably.
I can imagine glowing mushroom smurf villages now
“Even if the ice didn’t wiped out these creatures, humans would have”
Extreme day and night cycles preventing full colonization: imma stop you right there
Are you kidding me? The night and day cycles don't really matter. A good example of a modern populous city for Antarctica is Tromsø, Norway. It has a population of over 70,000 and is 69.6° N. It was declared a city in 1794, and even in that time period it was often referred to as the Paris of the North. It doesn't have daylight in December, but has twilight in December and a few hours of sunlight in November and January, that would be flipped for Antarctica. About 70°S in Antarctica would be half of Palmer Land, the Antarctic Peninsula or an eight of Wilkes Land, the whole East Coast of Antarctica. Tromsø today is powered by hydroelectricity from fjords which Antarctica does have, and if there ever was a frozen winter, Sweden uses nuclear in the winter and of course there is coal. And if you want to think of more extremes with large animals like Polar Bears and more barren land maybe for central Antarctica, then Longyearbyen in Svalbard (Norway) is a good example for the near center of Antarctica which is 78°N but in this case would be 78°S. Norway today is advanced, has healthy people with low poverty, respects the land, animals and natives (Sami) so I think they'd have a good chance in this Antarctica. Maybe another country could try to run it like Tromsø or Longyearbyen though. You don't have to have sunlight for a successful human city, not everyone gets depressed in the dark, I was up there for three months in the winter (but in Sweden), I thought it was awesome. Even if it was round the year darkness, these days they could have a fjord powered black light system for farms. It would look kind of sci fi.
@@alterbr33d you do know that what you’re talking about only applies to the modern day, right? We’re talking about colonization during the colonial periods, before the industrial revolution
@@xuanluu4873 Tromsø was declared a city a few decades after the start of the industrial revolution and your OP mentioned colonization which doesn't have to be the same as the colonial period, places could be colonized in the early 1800s too. After lots of revolutions, Antarctica could be seen as the last haven of colonization.
@@alterbr33d what do you mean by “last haven of colonization”? That it’s the only place without extensive colonization?
@@xuanluu4873 you do realize people have lived in greenland for thousands of years?
Alternate History Hub: What if Antarctica was green?
Me: What about if Rome never existed part 3?
@Jason Buford he already said that it got cancelled due to lack of ideas and youtube's monetization's policy.
How?
the dutch: *explores something*
the british: excuse this is mine now
this
Antarctica: *Is green*
British Empire *Rubs hands together* It’s free real estate.
The tsalal say hello.
The German empire too! Instead of settling for pacific island scraps and the remaining bits of Africa, they could launch massive colonization fleets to Antarctica. The continent is so massive I doubt the British (or French) would have anything resembling enough control to keep the British out.
I can see the US getting in on things too.
@@RaidsEpicly aaaand then the sun doesnt go up for a year
@@arnehurnik Mendip islands innit
@@arnehurnik He specifically said he was pretending that the rest of the world was unchanged despite the massive changes this would entail. Obviously that doesn't really make sense but it's pretty much impossible to say anything about what the history would be like otherwise so might as well
Antartica: *Is not covered in ice*
Spain, Chile and Argentina: *It's Free Real State*
@VermillionJaktheSecond Spain could have perfectly had colonized the part of Antartica closer to the South Cone, after all, they were the first to colonize Argentina and Chile
We would never have club penguin so this scenario sucks
What about African penguins that exist couldn't they still exist
Don't forget Happy Feet.
Matthew Quinn but there would be no ice...
Officially the worst timeline
NZ has lots of penguins and its not the coldest 0lace in the world.
Ok good news.
Penguins would still probably exist. They would be probably smaller though.
Probably.
That would be really cute
TEENY TINY PENGUINS AAAAHHH
@@riversgoingnowhere1659 There is a penguin species literally called "little penguin".
Look it up.
Actually larger penguins.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropornis
Thanks for collaborating with me. :) Now, for everyone reading this....I am starting my own country in Antarctica. Join me! Let's all get there before the bloody British do!
We must hurry! I can already hear God Save the Queen slowly getting louder.
Lemme Put all the necessary supplies and the Yacht In C-17
All Wood and steel are mine
You Bring food supplies
No need of Run stript there
_Airports are Capitalist Propaganda_
Meet you there on Ross Sea Coast
It already belongs to Australia and we say no its ours
@@lalalablablabla2130 YES!
LONG LIVE THE FREE ANTARCTICA!
@@lalalablablabla2130 Antartica belongs to no country dumbfuck. Read the antartic treaty
British Empire: "So Hi we heard you've recently come into some natural resources! Please do not Resist"
We want to talk to you about your homeland's extended warranty!
"Screw this!"
-James Cook
i missed that quote in history class
"only has two season; summer and winter"
hey, just like chicago
Yeah and winter came fast this year
Oh you live in Illinois that’s near Chicago
Tropical Countries: First time?
@@calamitycubed Mexicans: Hello there
Alejandro Hernández General kenobi
"Why does it get dark at 5?"
*laughs in northern european*
Lorenzo Martorelli Nilsson laughs in Canada
@ Laughs in dark at 3
What province are you in cause I'm albertan
I think sun light depends on where you are
@@shreyansamantrai4065 sadly quebec, but I hate french and can't wait to move. Im what you'd call and anglophone
This is unironically a really good dnd setting
America: “Did I hear there is oil?!?”
“Time to bring some freedom and democracy to Antartica!”
@skem
So is "Communism=no food"
Antarctica isn't a perceived threat to Israel.
Much funnit did the laugh
Quality Dumpster That one might not be original, but it isn’t wrong.
I used to get annoyed at jokes like this. Then I realized the US really is securing word oil supplies and people don't give a shit. Now I'm annoyed that people don't give a shit.
Victorians in a land of eternal night and mushrooms, eh? Sounds like the closest we'd get to Fallen London.
Animals and natives : *Exist*
Colonizers : So anyways I started blasting
Ahahahahhahah
Not to be "that guy", but most of the human caused extinctions around that time period had nothing to do with hunting, or blasting anything. It was the introduction of things like cats, from european ecosystems, to places they didn't belong naturally. For instance: The famous case of the cat, killing the dodo bird off, the largest bird in existence at the time, which also had the side effect of killing off the biggest flying bird at the time, the haast giant eagle. People around that time period didn't really have the concept even in their mind of the consequence of the innocent things they brought with them, that in the long term, weren't as innocent as they thought; it was ignorance to them, not malice.
And short of some people like cunts like Cortez, that also - wasn't how most all of the early contact happened with natives; especially where British explorers were concerned.
I think the first ones to arrive would actually be from Tierra del Fuego in South America, since it is quite closer to Antarctica and it is probable they visited the continent before it was officialy "discovered". The Maori would probably colonize the other side of the continent too. Given enough time they'd probably turn into a whole separate community, meaning Antarctica would have a native indigenous population.
Tbh I don’t think the Māori would colonized the other side, native Americans produced very fast in those times like by the time the Māori people reach Antarctica it will already have millions of people in it already no room for Māori people to colonize it! Also they cannot handle the cold, native Americans can as native Americans adapted to many echo systems in the Americas while the Māori people live in only tropical places, and New Zealand is just mid cold!
don't think you realise how far it is, and how rough the seas are down there
"How would farm animals not adapted with months of constant night and day live in such an environment?"
*Norwegian settlers around 1860's: *reindeer*
That's what I was thinking. Northern Norway disproves a lot of what he said with the exception of a far reaching Navy. A good example of a modern populous city for Antarctica is Tromsø, Norway. It has a population of over 70,000 and is 69.6° N. It was declared a city in 1794, and even in that time period it was often referred to as the Paris of the North. It doesn't have daylight in December, but has twilight in December and a few hours of sunlight in November and January, that would be flipped for Antarctica. About 70°S in Antarctica would be half of Palmer Land, the Antarctic Peninsula or an eight of Wilkes Land, the whole East Coast of Antarctica. Tromsø today is powered by hydroelectricity from fjords which Antarctica does have, and if there ever was a frozen winter, Sweden uses nuclear in the winter and of course there is coal. And if you want to think of more extremes with large animals like Polar Bears and more barren land maybe for central Antarctica, then Longyearbyen in Svalbard (Norway) is a good example for the near center of Antarctica which is 78°N but in this case would be 78°S. Norway today is advanced, has healthy people with low poverty, respects the land, animals and natives (Sami) so I think they'd have a good chance in this Antarctica. Maybe another country could try to run it like Tromsø or Longyearbyen though. You don't have to have sunlight for a successful human city, not everyone gets depressed in the dark, I was up there for three months in the winter (but in Sweden), I thought it was awesome.
*and what do those reindeer eat?...they trip out consuming hallucinogenic lichen because there's not much else to do when you're a reindeer and you have no other hobbies apart from producing other reindeer in your spare time*
Antartica: Green and not frozen.
The Thing: Hippity hoppity this continent is now my property.
Oh Crap.
Thing?
England*
And we also have no place to ship the Blob to either.
Welp...time to colonize another star system cuz I don't trust the Moon Spiders or whatever drives the tripods on Mars! Just avoid Tau Ceti....I rather not run into the self centered Lizards of The Race.
@@Joshua-hz3cl watch the thing
“Only has two seasons, summer and winter”
Basically Colorado
*laughs in texan*
But at least your sun acts normaly.
Nicholas Norman you mean red dead
no joke. spring is like a sick battle where summer keeps trying to make things grow and winter keeps killing everything every 2 weeks.
CJ Marsh Fall lasted a week this year. Then it snowed October 11th
So far “full on alien space bats” and “suck it Perth” actually made me laugh out loud
I love that line about "Whenever humans are involved, it usually doesn't work out for the local animals." Oh God, that is so satisfying to hear.
I personally think that agriculture would be possible on Antarctica, seeing that there is agriculture in the very north of Norway, where there isn't any sunlight either during the winter.
I love thinking about how mystical and strange the culture of "Terra Australia" Natives would be. With so much land and resource they would likely parallel closely to Native North Americans, but with their roots and history based around the sea like the Polynesians, maybe bearing similarity to ancient Greeks. The harsh and curious fauna would definitely create two entirely distinct worlds during the long night and the long day, and presumably the culture would be completely enveloped in the theme of dichotomy. The god of day and the god of night would both be seen as kind and cruel in different ways, and both of their servants would be terrifying beasts who hibernate half the year and never see each other, maybe thought to be shapeshifters.
*perhaps during the dark periods of the year most of the civilization would willingly migrate underground leaving only a garrison/contingent above to guard the cities and protect the borders only to develop heightened senses over time and prefer the darkness over the light present for the rest of the year*
@@scottmantooth8785 polynesian dwarves 😳
@@JellyAntz *sounds like the opening act of a festive and zany broadway musical*
The most accurate thing is that native Americans will sail to Antartica because it’s not to far from the cost of Argentina!
@@scottmantooth8785dude imagine if that's where that timeline got myths such as vampires and/or werewolves
Honestly I think you are greatly overplaying the difficulty of dealing with the day/night cycle. People do live above the arctic circle. It is a thing people can and do adapt to, even with the very cold winters. Plus a warm Antarctica would probably be as resource rich as Australia, giving colonists plenty of reason to live their.
Also Australia was pretty uninhabitable and weird (the seasons are backwards! There's no snow! The soil has no nutrients! The trees are the wrong shape!) and the only reasons colonists needed were "You are a criminal, it's this or the noose."
"New Holland, which I think no one would have stick with"
Well, they kept New-Zealand. Zealand is a dutch region, just like Holland ^^
Krankar Volund no one cares about new zealand enough to be bothered
New holand= Australia
@@killerkoffee4619 Maybe you don't
@@killerkoffee4619 Bad day?
New Zealand sound kind of cool actually, but New Holland...
“Alien space bats?” I see you’re a man of culture as well, Cody.
Who wants to establish a city in Antarctica
Yeah let's make them speak a different language
Can we have guns?
What's that city in Antarctica in love craft? It needs to be named after that
Alt-Centrist NeoBuddhist-AnarchoBonapartist What’s its’ name?
We shall claim Marie Byrd Land, raise a militia, and take all the other claims on Antarctica.
Imagine if game freak made this antarctica a pokemon reigon, complete with the bioluminescent flora and all that jazz.
"...Well, this sucks!"
-Penguins
Galapagos Penguins: It's free real estate
"What if the Moon was a habitable world all throughout human evolution?"
Imagine humans since the caveman days all the way to our modern times looking up to the night sky to see a full moon that is green, brown and blue. Now...
1. How radically different religion would be?
2. Would we still have the massive wars throughout history?
3. Would technology had advanced faster because of humankind's desire to explore the unexplored?
That could make a great series of novels... WWII-era superpowers rushing rocket tech and colonizing the Moon
Reddit moment
I wonder which race would go there and start exploiting its resources and killing that world first
What kind animals would even live there? With the low gravity and all
That is very awsome, I want to watch a show based on that now.
9:26 Hol’ up... Does that mean that the Minecraft mushroom biome could be theoretically possible?
terraria mushroom biome seems more possible in a "green antarctica" timeline tbh
In parts of Greenland they also live in darkness for some months of the year, and humans have lived there for millenia, adapting their lifestyle accordingly.
‘Let’s add some humans.’
Sounds like something Gray would say.
But only the sociopaths, pyschopaths and cannibalistic librarians who make book covers out of human skin.
JP Labs thats true
YES. Or, I'm also picturing one of Drew Durnil's AI history-game battles, where random countries or U.S. states or whatever keep trying to take over Antarctica from each other and the subcontinent's map colour changes like a strobe light... (Has he done one like that? He's done "all jungle world" but I don't think Antarctica was part of the map in that one...)
@@deussalt8108 And we can't forget Florida Man and his loyal pet, Spleens!
Norway: I own Antartica! I'm so powerful!
Denmark: Nope, it's mine, I'm the only one that owns landmasses bigger than a continent.
UK: Ahem!!!
Greenland is actually very tiny
also norway is really far from owning Antarctica
FranchuFranchu greenland isn’t ‘very tiny’😂😂
Imfromfuture that’s not tiny, yes it’s not big enough to be a continent. But it’s not tiny
@@franchufranchu119 r/wooosh
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Laughs in Australian”
“What if Antarctica was a green planet?”
Oil: Is discovered in Antarctica
**Star spangled banner stars to play**
What if they start growing mushrooms, edible mushrooms in Antarctica and that becomes their nation's farming.
Druglandia
@@i.t9390 That's already the Netherlands
Woman: *Thinking* I bet he's thinking about other girls right now!
Man: *Thinking* What if Antarctica was a green continent?
This comment is perfect!
Definitely
@@captainayaaya28 ARSLASHIHAVEREDDITMOMENT100CHUNGUSKEANUWHOLESOME
the fact that this comment has 666 likes is scary
Funnie
“What if Antarctica was a green continent?”
*Laughs in paleontologist*
Dude, your whole video is an entire experience. The music, the perfect pronunciation, the genial selection of images and design of the graphic representation. Thank you for this!
18th century explorer: Land Ho! A land of green vegetation and wondrous beasts.
Ship Captain: Send a landing party to see if there's a natural harbor for us.
Sailor: What's that, moving toward the landing party?
Marine: It's attacking! It's EATING the landing party!
Ship Captain: This land has dangerous beasts. Get the survivors on board, we're heading back to Australia to raise an armed expedition to deal with the animals.
Explorer: Have you ever seen animals like those before, Captain?
Ship Captain: Never in all my years. Good God, there's a huge lying animal!
Sailor: Captain, there's something moving n the water!
Ship Captain: Ready the guns, it's some kind of sea monster!
I can't believe this comment passed without many people liking it
This should be a movie
wow we don't judge contenents on colour arround here.
Gerbil13 lmaoo stfu😭🤣
Do you mean “continents”?
I'm very offended by this video's green supremacy stance; some of my best friends are white continents!
@@Pimpeaux But do they have charismatic marsupial megafauna & giant mushrooms? #IceIsColdButGreenIsCooler
You spelled “color” wrong
Fun fact: My great-great-great grandfather has a tiny mountain range named after him in Antarctica. Look up the Zittel Cliffs. I don’t think he ever even went there.
That is awesome. Was he a Geographer/Cartographer?
Try to get a mountain named after you
that's awesome...reason enough to want to visit there some day
Baron of Bahlingen that's more verifiable info than the entire 20 minutes of guessing who would settle where and do what in green antarctica. thanks, dawwg
Ahmed Shaharyar Ejaz He was a palaeontologist, no clue why they chose an Antarctic cliff after him. He proved that the Sahara was an ocean far longer ago than previously believed.
I think the concept of a landmass uninhabited by human until the 1200's would be the coolest alternate universe story.
Isn't that just America?
What if teddy "you should've aimed for the head" Roosevelt was the god emperor of mankind
*Greenland:* A country covered with ice.
*Iceland:* A country full of grasses and trees.
*My mind:* _THESE ARE CONFUSING TIMES..._
I mean I wouldn’t really say it is FULL of grass and trees
Greenland was more liveable back in the days of the Vikings though.
@@alexhurlbut That's a lie.
The name is a lie.
Iceland barely has trees and it has more glacier than grass. Though the reason Greenland was named greenland, was because one of the vikings was trying to lure people into settling there.
So yeah the name is an actual lie lmao
@@are3287 @Gavros963 www.smithsonianmag.com/history/why-greenland-vikings-vanished-180962119/
"They discovered Greenland during a time known as the Medieval Warm Period, which lasted from about 900 to 1300. Sea ice decreased during those centuries, so sailing from Scandinavia to Greenland became less hazardous. Longer growing seasons made it feasible to graze cattle, sheep and goats in the meadows along sheltered fjords on Greenland’s southwest coast. In short, the Vikings simply transplanted their medieval European lifestyle to an uninhabited new land, theirs for the taking."
I love all your stuff AltHist, but this is probably one of my favorite videos you've made!
Antarctica is a kind of a time capsule. Meny things that once lived there are now frozen
there's already a great timeline called "Green Antarctica" based on this idea. very interesting read.
Same although I lost interest when the author ended up turning the tsalal from a creepy albeit interesting civillisation to a mess of walking atrocities and lovecraft references
The Tsalal were just way too fantastic after a certain point.
Oh god, that still gives me nightmares.
I stopped reading it after the author introduced chupacabra saliva and *all the interesting ways it could be imbibed* as a drug.
Can you guys give me a link? Please?
Thank you very much
Monotremes: *The weirdos that lay eggs*
why does this make such a good speculative sci-fi/fantasy series
Specifically on the agriculture topic, it begs the question that the “New Australia” would also set forth new agricultural staples; crops, and cattle specifically.
I could entirely see marsupial cattle (ones that have adapted to the dual-season ecosystem) that fulfill the niche of cow/sheep/goat
I would also assume there’d be a unique staple crop that resembles maize/amaranth but would be uniquely adapted to long seasons and winter hardiness (much like winter wheat).
Love the concept videos!!
Hey, at least if Antarctica would be a green continent with no glaciers, the flattists could not claim that it is a ring of ice guarded by the government XD
Well the flat earth would still find reasons for their beliefs such as the goverments of the world putting a special barrier zone that doesn't allow anyone to tress pass
@@justinambru8529 Yeah of course, when you're delusional, you don'tcare of the facts XD
They would just say it's a ring of mountains!
At least there will be no rocket toting cannibals living there.....
They'd argue "If the earth were a globe Antarctica ought to be as cold as the artic. Flat Earth proven."
At this rate, give it about a hundred years and our grandkids might be going 'its free real estate'.
Prussia 2.0?
I feel like, as masaman pointed out, the native people of Cape Horn would have made it to Antarctica as well (if not earlier than Polynesians), since they're really the only humans biologically adapted for anything close to antarctic conditions.
Who knows, maybe their hardiness combine with Polynesian mastery of sailing would've made for some cool native Antarcticans.
And then the Europeans show up with the small pox.
Owned weak, stone age beta naitives hahahaha!
@@PaganShagger *Cries in buffed Germanic Pagan*
I feel like that people from South America would make it. I explained it in one of my videos.
The Patagonians would have been very close to the Antarctic Peninsula although the Falklands weren't that far either and they weren't settled. The strongest point for the Patagonians would be that the Drake Passage would likely be much calmer since the reason Antarctica froze over 35 million years ago was the rise of the circumpolar current that creates the fierce, stormy frozen seas around it. The continent is cut off from warm southerly currents today. A green Antarctica would have warm tropical currents reaching its shores and the Drake Passage would not be the eternal narrow choke point for one of the earth's mightiest coldest flows of water. It might well have currents but nothing as bonkers as it does in our timeline. A Patagonian fishing culture might discover it but the Polynesians absolutely would have. Unlike Cody's prediction, they might have spread along the entire shoreline quickly since they were a seafaring culture, only venturing inland later. European contact with the Polynesians would probably have happened on the Antarctic Peninsula or perhaps along the coast of the south Atlantic.
@@AlternateHistory Oh I relish althistory channels. I am subscribing to you.
Fun fact. Even with a warmer Antarctica, we would still have penguins most likely. As they evolved in Australia and New Zealand.
British colonists about to run into Maoris
Maoris: why do I hear boss music?
Tbh when it came to trench warfare it would be the British hearing boss music. The Maoris just let you bomb ya own troops with cannon fire.
British colonists : in the pacific, approaching New Zealand*
quicksave*
British colonists : .....
Maoris: 😝😝😝🔥🔥🔥
I too kind of wish this Alternate timeline was real. Even if it would mess with the history of humanity, it would be cool to have such a bizarre content with all of it's strange and unique forms of life.
wacky antarctic mythology and glowy fucked up plants!!!!!!!! real!!!!!!!!!
11:33 "New Holland, which is don't think anyone really would have stuck with"
Well, it worked for New Zealand, which is named after the dutch province of Zeeland.
I feel like the megafauna of Antarctica might do well. The Polynesians would send many scouting missions there, and the first campsites would be abandoned upon the coming of the long night. This would allow the animals to adapt to the presence of humans, while also having time afterwards to rebuild. And the on-and-off colonization of the Europeans would allow them to slowly adapt to humans with firearms. I think that Antarctica would be tied with Africa for the wildest continent.