Amazing how differently Cerakote handled criticism of their product. I wish their V2 had been part of this test if for no other reason than their professionalism and transparency. I’ve dropped one product in this test from my buying list already!
I’m a big fan of CCI some excellent recognized detailers put it on a test hood and it masked a ton of scratches and oxidation by virtue of the sio2 particles being medical grade and very small so the coating is able to make a finish almost perfectly level on an atomic level so it has incredible gloss and is able to fill some micro marring.
Hell yeah, really looking forward to this one! Just speaking for myself, I’m not particularly interested in chemical torture tests for this lot. I think letting them run through the Louisiana summer will offer a decent opening ceremony for their performance.
You have some heavy hitters on that Telluride😂….DIY 5, BC7, Ethos Max, CCI, Hydro Lite….those will all easily last multiple years unless you really start to abuse them. Thanks for your hard work.
To me, abillity to get the vehicle out the door sooner, adds value to the product. As long as it also performs similarly to the others. So with hydro lite being able to be released an hour after completion without fear of getting wet, this needs to be taken into consideration for detailers.
Nice! I've been eagerly waiting to see how CCI performs in this recurring format. Other than a few short clips on Tiktok and Insta, it has been hard to find much on it. Looking forward to see how it fares side by side with C6 Hydro Lite. I think you should keep it to real world maintenance without any toppers or "torture" testing. Just do whatever is necessary to keep them clean and performing. If you do decide to take it further, make sure to get the surface back to a neutral state and let it bake in the sun for a couple hours/days to see if any dropback in performance goes away.
Good to know. But I'm sure its just a learning curve. If you're used to DIY Detail coatings for example, then a lot of other brands might be more difficult. Also need to have the right lighting to avoid those issues. Question to Ethos, is it the higher resin activity that may cause streaks and highspots? What are your tips? Thx
@@rooboy99 Certainly the activity level, its not necessarily high spots but actual membrane thickness you can see that may present itself as a darkening effect on the surface (more prevalent on darker colors). The application really needs to be uniform and wipe off very consistent.
For factory gloss black painted wheels, would you recommend a dedicated wheel coating. Its on a RAM limited truck so not crazy sports car heat soaked and dusty wheels. But still, wondering or could maybe get away with using rest of bottle if theres enough left of say one of these
Hope you make this a long term test for these three coatings. An update once every 2 to 3 months would be a good way to see how they are performing. I think videos a few weeks after application are not meaningful. Most coatings look great the first few weeks.
I'm looking forward to seeing how this coating stacks up to the competition. The first update showed that the Ethos Max Graphene coating has crazy hydrophobics! Can you disclose what the main ingredients are in this coating? Is the main resin a polysilazane or polysiloxane based resin? Does it contain silcon nitride, silicon dioxide or silicon carbide along side the graphene oxide? Thanks.
I kinda feel bad for the next owner of the Telly. It's going to have 1 micron of clear left, and 137 spots of different products at various levels of degradation. LOL!
@@BXGreen_DrivewayDetails lol yeah on the bright side the sale was great and also less stuff to throw away, we just went to roll out trash bins instead of dumpsters and less trash is always a plus 😜
@@soflosuds I use Roar coatings. I been using them for 3 years now and that’s the only coating I use as I keep up with my clients yearly to see how the coating is performing and so far I have heard no negatives and still performing like day one
They aren't good enough for OEMs yet who have to actually warranty product. There's no coating that is good enough to stand up to every idiot. It would turn into a support nightmare.
To be honest , when a ceramic coating says it is scratch resistant they lose all credibility in my book. Unless someone is willing to do a scratch test with Ethos that statement is very misleading especially to the average consumer. Take it through the car wash and would love to see how scratch resistant it is.
Nowhere do we say scratch-proof, but the coating certainly adds additional hardness and protection against light marring as mentioned. There is a reason this coating lasted thousands of washes in Dmitry's tests. But don't take our word for it, test it yourself!
Coatings are scratch resistant, they aren't scratch proof. Fireball coatings I use are really good at it. Just use proper wash techniques and it should be no marring
@@ethoscarcare the image that Jamie showed says “ultra scratch resistant” I never said scratch proof. Coatings can help prevent micro marring or swirls from improper wash techniques. “Ultra scratch resistant” is misleading. The other 2 brands featured don’t claim scratch resistance. Just some feedback no need to be defensive with the double post. Golly gee
@-Joseph5 I agree with you. I think saying scratch-resistant sounds misleading bc it makes it sound like they're talking about a hardness test. I know it's probably saying the same thing but in a different way...but I think it would sound more genuine if these companies said something more like "Makes surface slick, reducing friction which may help resist scratches"
I'm not sure how you figure that CCI is less than half the price of hydro.CCI is a 50 ml bottle. Diy is a 30 ml . How about some transparency Ethos.Max $3.33 per ML CCI $3.60 PER ML HYDRO. $10.00 PER ML
How do you compare a graphene coating that's under $100 to a detonated Nano Diamond coating that's over $300. If you're going to review products make them equal. I know that's hard to do with DIY detail because their products are the highest price consumer grade that there is. Your setting DIY up to win. But what else is new.
@@JamieTheCleaner if you and I were supposed to build Racing Engines to compete against each other and I was allowed to spend $3,000 but you were allowed to spend $9,000 would you have a clear advantage? Okay made my point I'm done.
Thanks, good selection, none should disappoint.
This is going to be an interesting battle! 💪🏻
Let's just hope Jamie doesn't start giggling.
Amazing how differently Cerakote handled criticism of their product. I wish their V2 had been part of this test if for no other reason than their professionalism and transparency. I’ve dropped one product in this test from my buying list already!
Keep it Real Deal Holyfield, nothing but a pure soap or even DIY Rinseless that leaves nothing behind! No excuses!💯💪🏼🥊
Jamie, would be cool to measure the gloss of each coating with a gloss meter!
I’m a big fan of CCI some excellent recognized detailers put it on a test hood and it masked a ton of scratches and oxidation by virtue of the sio2 particles being medical grade and very small so the coating is able to make a finish almost perfectly level on an atomic level so it has incredible gloss and is able to fill some micro marring.
Yep pretty cool 💪🧼
Battle of the big boys. Will be following along
Hell yeah, really looking forward to this one! Just speaking for myself, I’m not particularly interested in chemical torture tests for this lot. I think letting them run through the Louisiana summer will offer a decent opening ceremony for their performance.
You have some heavy hitters on that Telluride😂….DIY 5, BC7, Ethos Max, CCI, Hydro Lite….those will all easily last multiple years unless you really start to abuse them. Thanks for your hard work.
Thanks for the video Jamie, been considering giving Max a try so will be interested to see results
To me, abillity to get the vehicle out the door sooner, adds value to the product. As long as it also performs similarly to the others. So with hydro lite being able to be released an hour after completion without fear of getting wet, this needs to be taken into consideration for detailers.
Second from Canada. Another good one Jamie. 🇨🇦👍👍
Nice! I've been eagerly waiting to see how CCI performs in this recurring format. Other than a few short clips on Tiktok and Insta, it has been hard to find much on it. Looking forward to see how it fares side by side with C6 Hydro Lite.
I think you should keep it to real world maintenance without any toppers or "torture" testing. Just do whatever is necessary to keep them clean and performing.
If you do decide to take it further, make sure to get the surface back to a neutral state and let it bake in the sun for a couple hours/days to see if any dropback in performance goes away.
Agreed, dont need unrealistic torture tests. Real world driving is the only way to test real world performance
I have used the ethos graphene max coating and had a hell of a time with the leveling. Left streaks and high spots galore!
Very active coating, not for the novice user!
@@ethoscarcare I'm not a novice user thank you. Just like that you lost my business.
Good to know. But I'm sure its just a learning curve. If you're used to DIY Detail coatings for example, then a lot of other brands might be more difficult. Also need to have the right lighting to avoid those issues. Question to Ethos, is it the higher resin activity that may cause streaks and highspots? What are your tips? Thx
@@GON89x Dont take that the wrong way, Our V2.0 Graphene Matrix is a better option for 95% of applications.
@@rooboy99 Certainly the activity level, its not necessarily high spots but actual membrane thickness you can see that may present itself as a darkening effect on the surface (more prevalent on darker colors). The application really needs to be uniform and wipe off very consistent.
Look forward to future updates!
Jamie, worth noting, the second coating is in a 50 mil bottle, 1st bottle 30 mils. Not sure of DIY coating size?
you need to get your hands on Bilndo and the new HPC coat frame labocosmetica
Interesting. I'll be really curious about them results.
I love it! Keep it up brotha 👍
For factory gloss black painted wheels, would you recommend a dedicated wheel coating. Its on a RAM limited truck so not crazy sports car heat soaked and dusty wheels. But still, wondering or could maybe get away with using rest of bottle if theres enough left of say one of these
Yeah just use the left over of one of these 👍
Hope you make this a long term test for these three coatings. An update once every 2 to 3 months would be a good way to see how they are performing. I think videos a few weeks after application are not meaningful. Most coatings look great the first few weeks.
Can’t wait for the updates!
I'm looking forward to seeing how this coating stacks up to the competition. The first update showed that the Ethos Max Graphene coating has crazy hydrophobics! Can you disclose what the main ingredients are in this coating? Is the main resin a polysilazane or polysiloxane based resin? Does it contain silcon nitride, silicon dioxide or silicon carbide along side the graphene oxide? Thanks.
Would bc7 still be in the same conversation as these coatings in terms of overall performance and durability? Thank you
Yeah for sure 👍
Should be fun
Do you use ceramic coatings on glass? ty
@@billnipp2309 yes
I kinda feel bad for the next owner of the Telly. It's going to have 1 micron of clear left, and 137 spots of different products at various levels of degradation. LOL!
LOL
my hydro lite didn’t come in a iphone box, it came like a regular diy 3/5/8 coating 😪
Did ya dirty
Birthday sale one didn’t come with the box. Which I’m ok with since the sale was great!
@@BXGreen_DrivewayDetails lol yeah on the bright side the sale was great and also less stuff to throw away, we just went to roll out trash bins instead of dumpsters and less trash is always a plus 😜
@@Franko.Details it at first froze me when i opened the package like where s the box?! lol then ooooooh got it
Cci is local to me but don’t use them, I already use a pro coating for my jobs
What do you use ??
@@soflosuds I use Roar coatings. I been using them for 3 years now and that’s the only coating I use as I keep up with my clients yearly to see how the coating is performing and so far I have heard no negatives and still performing like day one
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Do you have a discount code for CCI?
I don’t think so? You can try jamie10
@@JamieTheCleaner That didn’t work :(
@@R35spectt rip
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You better wash your mama's car.
If ceramic coatings are so great why doesn’t a manufacturer apply it at the factory?
They aren't good enough for OEMs yet who have to actually warranty product. There's no coating that is good enough to stand up to every idiot. It would turn into a support nightmare.
Paint protection packages are very profitable for dealers
Because a manufacturer will do NOTHING to increase the cost of production. They would actually bend over backwards to save $0.10 per build.
To be honest , when a ceramic coating says it is scratch resistant they lose all credibility in my book. Unless someone is willing to do a scratch test with Ethos that statement is very misleading especially to the average consumer. Take it through the car wash and would love to see how scratch resistant it is.
Nowhere do we say scratch-proof, but the coating certainly adds additional hardness and protection against light marring as mentioned. There is a reason this coating lasted thousands of washes in Dmitry's tests. But don't take our word for it, test it yourself!
Is your vehicle more or less likely to scratch after application of Graphene MAX?
Coatings are scratch resistant, they aren't scratch proof. Fireball coatings I use are really good at it. Just use proper wash techniques and it should be no marring
@@ethoscarcare the image that Jamie showed says “ultra scratch resistant” I never said scratch proof. Coatings can help prevent micro marring or swirls from improper wash techniques. “Ultra scratch resistant” is misleading. The other 2 brands featured don’t claim scratch resistance. Just some feedback no need to be defensive with the double post. Golly gee
@-Joseph5 I agree with you. I think saying scratch-resistant sounds misleading bc it makes it sound like they're talking about a hardness test. I know it's probably saying the same thing but in a different way...but I think it would sound more genuine if these companies said something more like "Makes surface slick, reducing friction which may help resist scratches"
I'm not sure how you figure that CCI is less than half the price of hydro.CCI is a 50 ml bottle. Diy is a 30 ml . How about some transparency
Ethos.Max $3.33 per ML
CCI $3.60 PER ML
HYDRO. $10.00 PER ML
Yeah didn’t think about bottle sizes good call 👍
First!!!
And.Ridiculo😅😅
How do you compare a graphene coating that's under $100 to a detonated Nano Diamond coating that's over $300. If you're going to review products make them equal. I know that's hard to do with DIY detail because their products are the highest price consumer grade that there is. Your setting DIY up to win. But what else is new.
Huh I think your overthinking the situation bud 👍 I’m not setting up anyone to win
@@JamieTheCleaner if you and I were supposed to build Racing Engines to compete against each other and I was allowed to spend $3,000 but you were allowed to spend $9,000 would you have a clear advantage? Okay made my point I'm done.
@@dcurry8147 good thing coatings ain’t engines 👍 LOL