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The VPI Classic Series turntable is an audiophiles dream. With it’s weighty 65 pound base and perfectly balanced needle this table will play virtually vibration free, creating a complete sound no CD can match. Decked out with a top of the line motor and tone arm the Classic series will make you sit up and listen like you never have before. VPI have been in the high end audio business since 1978 and their tables are sold in over 85 countries.
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The VPI Classic Series turntable is an audiophiles dream. With it’s weighty 65 pound base and perfectly balanced needle this table will play virtually vibration free, creating a complete sound no CD can match. Decked out with a top of the line motor and tone arm the Classic series will make you sit up and listen like you never have before. VPI have been in the high end audio business since 1978 and their tables are sold in over 85 countries.
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"When I listen to digital, I do the laundry. When I listen to vinyl, I make the wife do the laundry."
hahahaah nice
😁😁😁😁
Two thumbs up, Sir !
LemonSlice generalization.
This guy gets it.
It's nice to see a machine that's so pricey actually being made by people, instead of just stamped out of machines for cheap and then carrying an artificially inflated price.
Yeah, for anybody??? Being from México I can't afford these turntables, I'm sure it sounds great, but for now I won't replace my technics from the 80's that still works great and sounds awesome...
no need to replace a technics imo
"sausage hitting a pillow" LOL
"Eat Kosher salami"
- Joey Ramone
People downplay the importance of tactile/spatial experience, but until we evolve into beings of pure energy, there will always be a place for analog
I grew up listening to the records. It is so organic, so natural. During 1990s we had listening session and reason was then new Sony-555ES CD player. During playback my friend who owned the audio system put needle of Van Den Hul MC-1 (on Micro Seiki turntable) into the groove and after few minutes he switched knob of preamp to "phono". Everybody just stopped dead. Lady's vocal came almost with quality of aliveness and presence placed in soundstage just right, just like she is really there.
Love these I inspected these at WMI only Harry will understand loved it
I grew up on vinyl but when I heard my first cd I was blown away, maybe because of the top notch Dutch quality. However I love turntables for their mechanical engineering and my favourite is the French ERA brand, not overdone but brilliant in concept especially their top model.
Dude at the beginning has got a point. Digital is really good a being back ground noise. With a record you just have an over whelming urge to just sit back and listen.
It's intentional listening!
Chronicler of The Shadows Definitely.
I think it's a much different dynamic when you actually select an entire lp to listen to, in sequence, front to back.
It's like enjoying a movie as opposed to watching a scene from one on RUclips.
Huge difference.
@@BrandmadeTv well. i rarely listen to music unintentionally or by accident but i get what you're saying. i just think "intentional listening" sounds like the most sophisticated yet dumb thing someone could say. because lets face it. i also intentionally press play on spotify when im on the train
all I can say is "wow" what a great quick documentary....thanks! Mario
Cool video. Not so much about how it is made as to meet the people who make them. This is an old school family business. It was created and succeeded in the days when CD's were coming into use. So a triumph over adversity. And now it is being passed from father to son. Vinyl records are fun to handle and play, they can still sound great even though the tech is old, and these VPI tables can be quite beautiful for being machines.
Beautiful turntable
"It's like a sausage hitting a pillow. It just doesn't vibrate." That was the last thing I expected him to say lol
1:12
I understand that this is a promotional piece, but noticed that Harry lined up the azimuth with the little metal bar, presumably to get it parallel with the record surface, (“Perfect!”) but in their own VPI videos he remarks that most cartridges that glue on the stylus are rarely 90 degrees themselves, so just getting it parallel is not good enough.
Wood and metal, unbeatable good looking combo ;)
Wow! Fantastic. A dream.
Glad to hear you enjoyed it, Carlinhos!
AMAZING !!!!!!!!
love this.
Marvelous stuff. I did my early electronic engineering training in a radio broadcast outfit with six audio studios which used EMT turntables from Germany. Fantastic. And 20 pound platters? Ha! Ours were 16" diameter and needed 2 guys to lift one, cast iron. What's new to me, though, is the 'unipoint' (I think) tone arm pivot, excellent idea and that alone would make it superb, never come across it before. But although absolutely first rate it would never stand up to the hammering turntables get in a pro studio, really rough use for 18 hours a day. Another winner is the lateral balancing which of course would be necessary with a single pivot point, excellence again. My present turntable is a Hitachi direct drive, no belts. But alas, I am now old and my hearing ain't so good no more.....
I love vinyl and for me it is the preferred format, although technically there is no contest between it and CD. What does weigh down CD has been the loudness wars. As an example, I've just received the latest Radiohead release on both 180g vinyl and with a free (including uncompressed) download. The vinyl on a brief listen (before my amp imploded) sounded wonderful, warm, rich and powerful. However as my amp was non-working I turned to the download. And for curiosity's sake I imported into Audacity and I saw (naughty Radiohead) just how heavily it had been mastered with some almost solid red areas indicating effectively a compressed dynamic range. Interestingly the WAV audio sounded good through my Bose headphones from Audacity, but awful when played through iTunes (Apple what are you up to?) I guess this is to suit the MP3 generation, but personally I prefer the vinyl sound which ironically BECAUSE of the technical limitations can't be over-mastered. Sorry if I've sort of hijacked this thread, but I would say in conclusion, that the VPI is certainly a beautiful object!
I mean most people who listen to music through iTunes are wearing a piece of shit plastic earbud.
Amazing. 😀
The original AR XA XB was $67 brand new, i used it for 27 years...AR XB pioneered the floating chassis, totally immune from any vibrations, you could literally hammer the plinth vertically and nothing happens to the playing record...I did replace it with a VPI HW MK 3 and have 3 JMW unipivot arms...it works well, but a lot more money
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people only like it cause its more interactive and more aestheticly appealing
yep. i personally like playing music over vinyl because it has that feel and ritual to it that you just cant get out of a normal cd or from spotify. i use spotify a lot more though... but i do have a few records from artists i really enjoy
"is for anybody that wants to sit up and listen" is a little misleading. should include "and has deep pockets." still, cool video!
+12799MaDeuce There are plenty of other less expensive turntables that can give you a similar experience. Even the VPI Scout 1.1 or Rega RP6.
I bought one!
Now I don't have any money for records.
The timeline here is a little screwed up. VPI's first product was a record weight. About two years later they started making turntables, and this was about three years before they introduced their first record cleaning machine.
Hey guys..when was the last time when you hit a pillow with a sausage ?
When i was loaded drunk and missed my girlfriends hole.
No solder? motor mounted direclty to the plinth? "aircraft grade aluminum" there are several, all with different characteristics, typically light weight...
I have really been trying to like the VPI turntables but i just dont see how this is worth the cost.
Hot glue...
Balanced scales, how well do they deal with vibration?
Why are they still using metal tone arms? I thought this "space age turntable" would be using "aircraft grade carbon fiber" (which is lighter, stiffer, and more vibration resistant than aluminum).
Aluminium IF used properly can yeild equal results to carbon fiber.
I. for one, am grateful that there is a technology out there that inspires middle-aged males to do the laundry. Several of the less-hygienic locations I've frequented in Asia are clearly the province of analog zealots.
I have one of the original record cleaners, but I sure wish it wasn't that noisy. I did do the upgrade for the part that touches the record, but the noise is a bit much.
The Nitty Gritty is quite noisy as well.
With today's technology a high end turntable of today is better than high end turntable from 1970s. However the most common turntable from 1970s which most people had the BSR turntable is better than the most common turntable of today which most young people bought the one with a plastic platter with ceramic cartridge which requires heavier tracking force.
My Technics SL1210 MkV is in another class from the VPI Traveller (I have not heard the Classic).
zog zog technics is dj turntable, the classic is for serious music listeners
jorgma: The 1200 was originally built by Panasonic subsidiary Technics as a hi-fi deck. The idea of a dj deck was alien to them. Djs picked up on them because of the high torque motor. Hence a lot of people have fallen into the notion that they are only good for djs. It is of course a fallacy that they are dj only. The two concepts are not mutually exclusive. However, the myth - while popular - is pretty harmless.
zog zog Well if one attempts to "scratch" with the vpi the stylus and record will be ruined as the tonearms on these turntables only accomdate the best cartridges that are not designed for use or shall we say abuse. Furthermore the ruggedness of the 1200 is a perfect match for day in day out handling of dj gigs.
A lot of people in the comments section talks about digital sound but they haven't realized yet that
{ for now at-least } , there isn't such a thing as digital sound it's always
analog because the digital is only the process between the ADCs and DACs
and that's good :-)
what they mean though is that an analog medium like a vinyl record where a mechanical process takes place is different from a digital replay where music is sampled and stored as ones and zeros
how about 15 or 30 ips audio tape that the album was recorded on in the first place?I'll stick with CDs and tube preamp, but to each his own. enjoy!
lol, cds with a tube amp.. what a waste
40 years of listening to the finest professional equipment the recording industry has to offer still brings me to this opinion. Close your eyes while listening to your stereo and ask yourself if it appears to have the band playing right in front of you. For me that's tubes, but everyone has their own preference. What a waste? Doubt it.
I was amazed when I heard the difference between a two inch multitrack master mixed to half inch. Both as analog 30 ips. As good as half inch is, it sounds nothing like the two inch. And when mixing to digital it was no contest. People dont know what they are missing with digital or LP playback. The analog tape always wins.
@@rubenp8750 why cant they make a 2" cassette deck? Who cares if its bigger. Why does it have to be only reel to reel at that size.
@@rubenp8750 Right, but we never even got half inch open reel let alone two inch. The only two inch I've ever seen has been 16 or 24 track.
I have a pretty good audiophile system. In fact I have three, the most expensive is around £35k
I love vinyl replay but does it sound as good as high end digital - NO WAY!!
The laws of diminishing returns starts to kick in with vinyl replay in terms of sound. The recording itself is without doubt the most important aspect to quality replay (analogue or digital) vinyl has a character of its own which can sound stunning, but colouration is NOT accuracy. Compared to the master recording, high end digital gets the closest.
Early digital was awful, but we're not in the 1980's anymore, things have progressed greatly.
The best in vinyl is impressive. The best in digital is mind blowing.
No one cares about accuracy.
@@cootaloot I do.
@@kacperuminski1547
24/192 374 khz smokes vinyl all day long.
@@califmike2003 So does MP3 320.
@@cootaloot true,its entertainment...scientific accuracy is just a tool too achieve form of entertainment.
I like a little knob to adjust my speed not that the motor is not spinning and perfect timing but you know I played record where they should have been slow down or they should be speed it up a little bit that's all and having a moter that they say spending at the perfect speed kind of scares me a little bit. They only made direct drive turntables (ones without a belt or speed control) for the DJ's, because a lot of DJs didn't know how to change a belt in under 3 .1/2 minutes back in the early 70's & they had to keep the music playing on the radio, with not time to worrying about changing belts or if they had a new one in stock & if they didn't they were screwed.
I have a Classic 2 and it's a very good turntable. But VPI stopped making the Classic line after only making them for a few years. Guess the sales were disappointing compared to the sexier looking Scouts etc.
What type of "glue" do you use to attach the metal plate to the fiber board? Would it not be better to apply this with a notched trowel over the entire two surfaces??
It looked like DAP calking. And yes, spreading an even amount of "glue" would be a lot better than what they did here.
VPI: Call me when you make a standard, gimballed arm
Right, I just don't get the unipivot arm.
They are a pain to cue up to the first track accurately. Not to mention setting the azimuth.
All that dust attracts a static platter without a moving cover of the light programme.
Put your record on!
VINYL BEST!!!!!!!!
Wish I could afford a vpi
With the sex appeal of mick jagger! The guys 80 years old
Charly85 the thing looks like a crap old block of wood, not too different to appeal of Mick 😆
If anorexically skinny, wrinkly, coke head rock stars are your thing...
The best of Old technology....records are still old technology. I am watching you tube, on.....DIGITAL. It couldn't exist, if we stay obsolete and analog
Absolutely
If you want the ultimate audio experience book your ticket and take your seat .
Nothing compares to live music , or ever will .
A lot of people think $6k is overpriced but when you actually hear an expensive turntable in person you'll want one for the rest of your life. Not bad value either considering this is nowhere near the most expensive turntable out there.
greencityman420 It sounds good if you've got a decent amp and speakers that is , anyway not a patch on a technics 1210 or a Linn. .
Affordable turntable?! This thing is $6000!!
Avi Pharmd r
They got one that is $30,000.00
Just stick to digital.
Avi Pharmd your better off gutting out a cheap 60 dollar one and making a custom casing for it.
6000 for a piece of wood, that you could get, cut to size for 20 bucks.
Plus a AC motor that syn with the mains AC frequency.
where is the testing and measurement?
by putting ball bearing on the feet doesnt mean less vibration going into the turntable
you are paying for marketing and Fatten their wallet
Lemme just thread a tape on my reel to reel deck...
Funny how the tonearm wire sticks out on top, like an antenna, ready to pick up every little bit of noise.
Go and listen to a Linn LP12, still the best, however not cheap! Enjoy the music!!!
Wonderful! However, I would rather buy a Rega Planar 3 turntable, or a Dual, at most. Or settle for a Rega P2 as another record playing system; then eventually change to a more higher performance, moderately expensive phono cartridge. This VPI turntable is a wee bit expensive. A much better choice is a Rega, Dual, Sony, or Denon turntable!
Love the wooden Stylus Where can I get one?
You're better off sticking with diamond.
I prefer my denon dp62L over VPI tables. Have auditioned those tables, i dunno why i still prefer my denon
I had a denon dp-59. Probably the greatest of the vintage denons. I now own a classic 3. It’s not even comparable. The sound from the vpi is so dynamic and airy. You don’t even hear all the pops and crackles from bad recordings. I saved up a long time and couldn’t be happier. You can find one on the used market for 1/2 price. Well worth it.
PLEASE HOW MUCH FOR THIS
When they made this table, it was about $2,700.00 not including the cartridge.
And I am watching this because of DIGITAL, DUH.
CNC, DIGITAL controlled machining
computer numeric control yeah. so you can make precision parts for analog listening
“It’s like a sausage hitting a pillow”
lots of Glue.
Indeed! This looks cheaply made, not like a high end product. I would expect to see construction like this on an entry level Pro-Ject not a $6000 thing. This video was no good for VPI.
@@mephistoGR Go with Technics direct drive instead 😜
@@QoraxAudio SL-1000R. Yes please.
@@mephistoGR That's the best! 👍
But an SP-10MKII or SL-1200G can also beat any VPI.
It's 1962? Maybe he also uses rotary phone, it's analog.
Just Dual 1229
Only the finest half inch particleboard is used in making this table, you will know this by looking under it where it is unfinished. No ten thousands of an inch veneer used where someone walking by would notice. Under the table you will find bare unfinished particleboard. Finishing the wood underneath the table is not necessary for a sale, the consumer will not notice till they get it home and take it out of the box. By that time the sale has been made, few will return it to the store.
An audiophile infomercial for sure, but the process is interesting; you don’t need technicians in hazmat suits for most manufacturing, and I’m sure most people don’t realize how much of their products are held together with Super Glue and/or hot glue. And US companies just can’t win with the ‘I don’t want any Chinese junk - what happened to “Made in the USA”’ that competes with people buying foreign goods or online because they’re $5 cheaper and complain that goods made here are too pricy.
This thing is over 50lbs! I won't be able to pick this up!
It's telling that their employee has a weightlifting belt on.
It is a beautiful machine. BUT, the price is RIDICULOUS!
Has to be. You talking made in the USA with no plastic, only metal and wood and carbon fiber
A great turntable but on all the demonstrations I've seen they are using the new 180 gram LP's. I want to hear it playing a vintage 70's or 80's vinyl record those will sound just as bad on this turntable as on a $199 one.
Its like a sausage hitting a pillow?
Rotary phones coming back...Remember the "Princess" phone?
Somewhere about a year ago I read where a guy took some rotary phones and put cell phones inside them for use in a car, installed on the center console or in the past the tunnel or hump. Yes, you had to dial it the old school way.
As much as I enjoy vinyl, this video was full of so much hyperbole and misinformation. The ultimate format is whatever the master was made with. End of story. Plus it's much easier and affordable to get good sound out of digital.
and theres virtually no difference (if you have a high enough sample size)
Only Vinyl CAN Deliver ? NO it is Analogue Reel To Reel TAPE ..It is the most expensive sound if you can afford it..
But what source will that tape be from? A copy of a copy of a copy. Early pressing of a record is from an early tape. If mastered and pressed good, and of course in a clean condition, it's all that good
No media genius.
Well he is a turntable manufacturer, and it pays his bills, so he's not going to say digital is comparable to vinyl is he?
You shouldn't show the cartridge resting at such a steep angle. Makes me queezy...
Here's the point. If you are not talented and do not have all the information needed to do proper recordings on a cassette deck (fine tuning, bias adjustments and calibration for a specific tape type)...or if you only have left vinyls with scratches and play them on a Rega P3 connected to a harsh hifi system and with too many windows in your loft..or you play all your bad quality heavy metal CD's on a Naim CDX2 with XPS2...you are always disappointed with the music sound results.....and you get frustrated in hearing no difference of Flacs, CD or Vinyls in a public Naim Audio demonstration...but then you hear a Nagra on Magico speakers and you start dreaming again. Just enjoy the music if you grab a moment of good sound:-)
I truly believe you do not understand how digital works.
We know how it sounds.
@@todd.goslin6190 yep. with a high sample size exactly the same
Digital merely takes an analogue sound - compresses, smushes, squishes and otherwise manipulates it - over "samples" it a bunch to make sure they squished it correctly, then tries to output it as an analogue sound to your preamp, etc. An LP via an analogue system delivers the sound pretty much as it was recorded (what audiophiles like to hear), with no scrunching, twisting, smashing or other manipulation of the originally recorded signal, unless some overly enthusiastic audio engineer decided he wanted to mess with it some. The ONLY advantage to digital is convenience, in your car, etc.
.after all, you're building high-end turntables, not houses.
I seriously doubt I'll get an answer from VPI.
Steve Spillman
Lee Muriel Robinson
Can it play multiple records? If so, then I'm in. Party's die when the music stops. Don't stop the music.
Check 'em out, Mac! :)
vpiindustries.com/classic.html
Mac Tek this is not a party turntable it is for serious listening. You want a party get a old GE wildcat.
Mac Tek ?????
Let’s be honest, most comments here are from people with a turntable worth less than £500 and yes, cd is probably going to sound better to you, but you would soon change your tune if you listened to a mediocre system of say £20k and then you will enter a different realm of musical enjoyment. It’s such a shame 80% of the worlds population don’t actually know what music sounds like or should I say should sound like, and until you actually sit down at home and listen to a good recorded album on an expensive properly set up system and you actually hear the music as if the performer is stood right in front of you with such realism you can pic out the positions of each band member you will never understand.
Do the same with a SACD in a 20k system and you will understand how music should sound.
20 k to replicate live sound 😂😂😂😂
Book your ticket , take your seat in a world class arena (Albert Hall London England 🇬🇧) with astonishing acoustics and absorb every single note .
The highest quality home system will not even get close
Sounwaves arnt edged into vinyl..
nah. they are pressed into it. coming from a master. which in turn had the lines cut.
spinal turntable.
Wire nuts LOL
Turntables are to LP`s,what ink printers are to ink....EXPENSIVE HOBBY.
Stop calling the stylus a needle!!!!
Both are acceptable and both have been used clear back in the 1970's. Needle is a layman's term and stylus is a technical term. I'm a technical person and am super nerdy, so I call it a stylus.
It's a pick.
LOL
And hear we go again with the emperor’s new cloths
Way back when there were only records I bought all the SME’s
and turntables
But I always dreamed of cd’s with there pure sound LPp’s do
not sound better
When I go to a live concert and listen to a string quartet I
do not hear crackles and pops like you get on a record
These crazy people are not listening to the music they just
love watching the turntable going round, I am a photographer who used film for
decades and now use digital its the same as the records move on they are just
tools
typical because we believe this ridiculous degree of
audiofile you assume we are hateful jealous people, No its because we belive in
spending our time listing to music not equipment
Well I collect records not just because of the music but for the record itself, kinda like post stamps. They can aslso sound very good if the record is in good conditions. For me records are more than music, and I think it's the same for all record collectors.
The cracking and popping noise you hear from a vinyl is actually caused by the dirt on the vinyl (dust, grease from fingerprints) and not from the vinyl itself. Proper handling of a vinyl will not get it dirty, and if you do get it dirty then you can clean it at home using DIY methods.
Some people say that it's too much hassle to properly handle a vinyl, but to that I just say stop being fucking lazy.
It's a much more personal experience. So personal that you actually end up being attached to your sound gear.
I've just changed an amplifier I've used for 5 years now and I can't bring myself to sell it. I have so many great memories with it that it almost feels like I'm throwing away a good old friend.
"When I go to a live concert and listen to a string quartet I do not hear crackles and pops"
Neither do the people who know how to setup a turntable.
wow, you obviously do not understand how vynil works.. that like saying " i dont listen to cds because tall of the skipping that can happen" even though thats more about how you treat and clean your media.. get a clue
@@TopMag Get a dog. Not only will he be your best friend but he will make sure you never over spend for a stylus again.
I'll pay a lot of money, and you can fix it yourself, if Im going to live in the moon..., great...Huston we have a problem.....over...?
you will never get good bass on vinyl as cd is just the way it is you just cant make a deeper grovee on the record so the invented the RIAA curve its ok but its not flat eq like a cd and also the noise floor is way donw on a cd compare to vinyl if your cds are loud because of over the top mastering you should adjust your volume with REPLAYGAIN trust me you will get your nice vynil loudness comfort sound some cds need at least 10db volume down to sound right at the 83-90 db range.
Dry "sodder" (solder) joints so you can fix it easier 😂😂😂😂
WTF sort of comment is that ?
Standard American "quality" then . . . .
Nonsence vinyl is over
mehmet yüksel learn how to spell. And vinyl is doing very well right now.
Зачем нужны древние виниловые проигрыватели? если есть mp-3. MPEG-1/2/2.5 Layer 3
I can't listen to vinyl anymore, I just can't listen to the snap, crackle, and pop sounds with my music. Streaming from the modern sources is good enough.
VPI - Very Pricy Item.
5 mm video + BLABLABLABLA = NUL
to bad only the super rich can fucking afford it !
C815richard it's just 6,000. You don't have to be "super rich" for that.
This is bullshit, it’s the music, not the gear. I just came home, and found myself listening to music in the car for almost 2 hours!
CDs sound better.
Complete garbage. High mass does not eliminate vibration. If these guys knew anything about physics, this is the last way you would want to build a turntable. The steel plate on the top rings like a bell. Bolting it to a thick layer of MDF does little to damp the vibrations. Mounting a motor directly to the top ensures the motor vibrations are directly coupled to the tone arm and indirectly to the stylus through the platter. A couple of years ago, VPI switched the motor to a cheaper version that overheats and locks up after extended play. They just discontinued making these tables, I wonder why?
Well there are two ways to look at it, mass will make a turntable less susceptible to vibration because it will take a higher external force to vibrate the turntable, but, if the resonant frequency of the material used is poorly mated to the type of vibrations expected then yes, it will 'ring like a bell'.
I agree with you in that some poor design choices have been made here when you consider the price point. How much more effort would it have taken to build an air gap between the motor mount and plinth, and the Hurst motors they use are actually notorious for vibration. The turntable industry just doesn't want to invest in R&D for good quality motors or pay premiums for the good systems that exist so we are stuck with $15 motors, belt drives and $4000 worth of marketing BS.
Junk
Sorry it Vinyl is history we are not in 60’s or 70’s decades technology has evolved new generation coming , for business prospective you can’t depend on new generation and the old generation is fading out .
Not old enough to buy into this nonsense.
has nothing to do with your age, its about weather you enjoy it or not. if you dont enjoy it theres no point for you to get into it
vinyl is just expensive ergo elitist and you know powered speakers and spotify is really the way to go
richard murphy lol, fucking spotify
richard murphy u are insane
steaming music is good on the go, butt vinyl stills rules in quality
@@mixmasterfestus8096 Vinyl actually incurs more loss onto the music than the codec that Spotify uses so no, vinyl doesn't rule in terms of quality.