I was expecting vacuum tubes to amplify sound, but instead found cheap circuits soldered together by hand. $300 - Electronic parts $1500 - Wood, stone, etc $298200 - For this utter bullshit story abut bringing back Elvis
highest quality components my arse. I use some of the absolute best components money can by on a regular basis, including custom made parts, and those parts are mid tier at best. the wiring is also a joke. Welp, time to build a pair of speakers to blow those shown here out of the water, running off one of the most powerful tube amps every created, just because i feel like it.
I rather reinforce my floor joists and find a 1.25 ton Genesis system and connect it into my cheap HK AVR-7200. xD It's about time to heft that 70lb beast out of the cabinet and give it it's once a year or 2 cleaning.
There are a lot of better ones. The "aerospace technology" says it all, it's just marketing garbage. They work with primitive methods and materials compared with other expensive manufacturers.
Those solder joints are absolutely horrific, a cold iron was used, not enough flux, and the board was not cleaned after soldering. Look at all that residue! "Like aerospace level stuff" Lmao please!
Cameron Crosby Wow! I had to look twice, but you are right! The soldering at the PCB is really poor. It looks like they soldered from the upper side?! Anyway, people spending 300k for an audio system will probably never open the case. Who cares?
And the hard wiring from the board to the pots and switches is amateur hour. I've seen the hard wiring in equipment costing half has much made in Japan that is done cleaner and more neatly organized.
"we use aerospace grade stuff" shows PCB with AMETEK and Ohmite components, not to say the 10$ Sprague Atom Caps, yeah right.... :D Aerospace grade, really high level cheap components :)
the company will claim its hand beaten pure silver from the mines on mars. there a sucker company, you have to be a sucker to pay that much for all the bullshit there hosing out
Even the wood glue was made from an almost extinct truffle growing only in one far fetched corner of the world. It is then ground up by the Budweiser clydesdales to start the glue making process. Gives the glue a very regal sound.
You could literally build a professional mixing studio for this price, including an insane pair of speakers like ATC's and a wall of analog gear. Crazy.
and that would be really "hi fi", in the literal sense of high fidelity. Fidelity to the recorded, mixed, processed material. Especially if using ATC's
and why would you want the wood to put it's sonic qualities into a tone ... you want the recorded music to do that, not the part that is supposed to be inert.
@@theodorepaul2610 I don't know of any tests offhand, but I've worked with a high end speaker manufacturer (and others) and the upper end designs use hard wood plywood. I've used MDF and solid woods for a few of my own designs, and so far I like Maple Plywood, the more layers the better. JMHO
@@theodorepaul2610 I’m working on designing my own horn systems (putting a CNC machine in my closet!) the only factors of how the wood “sounds” is mass and stiffness. They don’t really affect “tone”
Spagg Trait Lead free is slightly more difficult to solder I admit. I use the stuff everyday and I can do a much better job than that. It's pretty bad. That is a class 1 or class 2 IPC standard level. It should be a 3
Nothing in this video shows the quality of soldering in OMA amplifiers. You can only see a guy soldering using point to point wiring, a method still widely employed today.
Well if we're going to be a smartass; the dollar sign should be before the number. Also, in my country we actually do write it like I did.. What are we even talking about.. The fact still is that this absurdly overpriced speaker has some awful soldering. Even I did better soldering my first time
I always find the ignorance of a lot of Americans to other countries. Like I live in America and I know a lot of countries use periods and not commas for thousands places.
Yeah, when you add up powder coating (super cheap), slate tiles between 20 and 40mm thick, some high end speakers + amplifier and some expensive hardwood your still 295,000 short of the price tag. What nonsense.
"Like elvis is really there" But the soundwaves being read are still only recorded on standard quality vinyl from 50 years ago. An expensive speaker and record player cant drastically enhance the sound if the sound being read is still on a regular old disc.
I believe that's the point - 50 years ago they would have been doing everything in analogue. It feels silly to say analogue as if it's a magical word that means perfect audio quality, but it's simply the case that an analogue signal is a far more simple and accurate way to produce sound. It just isn't at all convenient, and is more susceptible to interference. There is lossless digital audio out there, but once it's gone through a ADC and a DAC on the other end, you do lose quality. Just ask any electrical engineer about it. The specifics of ADCs and DACs are pretty interesting.
I'm an audiophile and $30,000 would be a ripoff for those $300K speakers. The cost of materials .. slate is a very cheap material so is wrought iron, aluminum, wood, welding again all common and cheap. These are sculptures at best and for wealthy people with more money than good sense.
saying you are an audiophile isn't giving you any credibility or points,its comparable to being an insane dumb-ass that hears things that arent there and thinks oxygen content in speaker wires is something you can hear in a recording.
Our company can supply an Aux port for just $5K, the port is hand turned out of finest Indian birch grown on sacred burial grounds connected to the main board via wires using African Gold collected by albino miners.
It is all about relativity. These folks seem to like Horns and it all starts at the APEX. So is it really miniaturized? Yes and No. A short distance away from the apex, as in headphones the size of the cone is small but the listening distance is also small. Looking at newer higher end headphones thy have gotten larger and larger drivers to better and more faithfully reproduce a particular note. Looking at the speakers in this video they are just farther from the Apex and the listening sweet spot is further away. In theory it is all the same horn, only taken to it's ultimate end. Now comes a problem. The small headphone driver can't move the same volume of air, so it will be weak and useless as a speaker at distance. These guys are all alike, they ignore facts or just toss out words like they know what they mean, to make a sales point.
Very extraordinary claims, with all the evidence speaking to the contrary. "We use the very best components, aerospace stuff..." To my knowledge the aerospace industry moved away from vacuum tubes and vinyl in favor of way better systems decades ago. "Solid wood joinery, no body does it!". A simple Google search will happily give you a few dozen companies that do just that. "Everything is big because it has to be". While that might be true for the speaker membrane and cabinets, this is idiocy when applied to electronics. "We give the absolute best sound" by using valves and vinyl, which are measurably worse and introduce all sorts of aberrations? By using cabinets that are shaped for optimal visual effect without the slightest consideration for acoustics? I really don't think so. I am quite confident that with $2000 in electronics speakers, about $1000 in materials and about 40h of workshop time you could easily match their $300000 system. You could than spend the $297000 you saved in creating the most acoustically perfect room money could buy.
I agree, the guy in the video used "energy", just like Elvis, to create sound waves and on my $1 speakers that energy was recreated realistically to produce the purest notes of "I am a salesman" - he did a good rendition tho.
Lei Chen: Hahahaha. All about the manual labor. Why are HyperCars so expensive? Not because of material "carbon fiber maybe". Not because of the speed. But because of the manual labor. If I wanted a fast car I'd get a Tesla.
Actually, let's say it takes 2 weeks to produce with all the materials bought, you're looking at maybe $8k. Up that number by 30% to make a profit, and you're looking at $10k speakers. Still $290k to go.
It's a "boutique halo product" marketing strategy. Honestly, the designs are not that impressive to me. It's for wealthy hippies that buy things like Alembic guitars once used by the Grateful Dead or whatever. It's not that these speakers are crap but they spend way too much money on things that don't affect performance and then even make some design compromises. The ideal speakers can be used for any kind of sound reproduction controlled by the electronics. These speakers are designed to have "character" and "panache" that people get excited over, and yet they 're introducing dispersion flaws that limit the ultimate performance of the speaker systems. I'm guessing there are some peaks and valleys in the frequency response any time you move the test mic from their idealized position. They also treat the speakers like instruments (with their own organic character), as if all of these design elements help it reproduce the sound of natural instruments and that just is not how it works. Putting a speaker in a mahogany and ebony cabinet is totally different than stretching strings across the same lumber. I mean totally different. But even if their ideas did work in reality that would mean you need special speaker cabinets every time you change the programming from whatever signal you're feeding the speaker. The speakers must be neutral and transparent as a platform for the signal to reproduce the programming faithfully. Almost everything from the narrators of this video is bullshit.
Really, wealthy hippies? An oxymoron if ever I heard one. No, I suspect that this equipment is for those who value style over functionality. Perhaps some trust fund babies, or corporate execs who have too much money and too little sense of perspective. If Apple made high end audio equipment - this would be it.
I wonder if you've ever attended a high end audio show or listened to gear of this quality. I agree that this video is filled with PR and hype. But most people have never experienced great audio systems so can't make any judgments on sound quality.
@@theseriousaccount That "99%" figure is quite the bold statement and extremely difficult to quantify. It's really hard to define "audiophile products". And "fraudulent"? Wow, you should really start suing manufacturers if there is 99% of these products are fraudulent. Have at it Hoss.
sharemymood It's more so about the hand made and work that goes into as opposed to just sound, it's one of those collectors rich people like to keep as master peice
I'm sure they sound great. They are using a very efficient speaker design and amp designs so you don't need lots of power to drive them. Some people prefer horn based speakers some don't. Some prefer tube electronics some don't. Some prefer to deal with listening to vinyl vs digital. It's all about convenience, personal preference and then exclusivity.
Yep. Wooden speaker box may actually sound kind of interesting... But really, a set of $1000 speakers with a nice, dense particleboard cabinet would sound practically identical, if not better.
Judging by the majority of the responses, you might be insulting most of the Eskimos. I don't believe an Eskimo could be conned by this guy ....none of the responses have been conned.
I'm also having a hard time understanding their decision to use solid wood in the first place. MDF is not just cheaper, it's also superior in this application. Martin uses hardwood in their guitars BECAUSE they want the tone of it, in speakers you don't.
The speakers that were used to record, mix and master the music we listen to probably don't amount to $40,000 combined. A pair of Bowers & Wilkins can be had for around $20,000. Common to many mastering studios. The cost of these is ludicrous.
Yep. Somehow these retards buying this stuff think they can magically make it sound better than the components it was recorded on. I guarantee that Elvis's voice was recorded on some POS microphone from the 50s.
Johan Fouche what .... this is about management of sound waves. Electricity is binary where as sound waves oscillate at varying degrees of taste. It not just the equipment that’s at play it’s also the room where the equipment is being used that will affect sound waves.
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@@younggunz4081 Thanks for pretending to be smart, answering an unasked question. Don't you worry son. I understood exactly what he was saying. We spoke of electrical engineering generally, of which SOUND....is almost an incalculable fraction of. The electrical components you use for amplification is where your quality of sound comes from. Do you use a simple 555 timer for your amp & lose quality......or do you put in a 4047 or 4080. Or do you use a 4971 IC. Is Does he want the old LP scratch effect added to all his records with a push of a button ? We're not playing: Lets install speakers & see which part of the room has the best acoustic. Management of sound waves ? You can adjust the components to give you almost anything. Then, knowing what ELECTRICAL waves & SOUNDWAVES are, you can design the BEST cones for each frequency ranged speaker, using solid wood, machining single units, bouncing the soundwaves & absorbing just the right amount, rather than plywood like these cheapskates here used & still charge 10 times what its worth. What wire will you use for the coils ? Not binary at all. And don't pretend like this is some art being displayed here for 300K either. its just some fool selling his ego to the world while some folks are actually uninformed enough to fall for his price tag.
@@younggunz4081 lol electricity is binary. You maybe dont even know converting one lossless source to another lossless type can be debatable in term of audio quality (for example source dsd to pcm lossless). There's a lot to determine, from the source, dac, preamplifier, amplifier, frequency response, transducer, environment, etc. If we talk technical, there's pretty much to talk, but with the price like that is overprice... a well known brand like polk, sennheiser, stax etc highest tier product are not that much expensive.
Can you hire me, I can produce silver loaded quantum tunneling low dielectric mains cable and low-order harmonic high-Q super bandpass mains filters ).
Oh oh and hire me, I can develop cabinets of special hydroponic grown, bidirectional biodynamic wood that only sounds perfect when the growths rings are aligned with the gamma rays from the full moon. Suzy Siviter: Remember to design those cables so that there are left side and right side cables. :-)
I’ve had three major acoustic revelations in my life: 1. When my dad’s four-way Dynaudio speakers made Whitney Houston stand right inside the room with “I Wanna Dance With Somebody”. 2. When I first heard the Stax Lambda Signature in 1991 with a Benny Goodman recording and felt like sitting within the orchestra. 3. When I finally bought my first own Lambda and could hear Anthony Kiedis in “Under The Bridge” with the full resonance of his chest, not just his voice. All super expensive speakers have left me unimpressed though.
@@jonathandavis9507 As a consumer who has a certain budget, there very much is still a lot of innovation. Today, you can get far better speakers at any price point than 20 years ago. Many manufacturers are experimenting with driver design, cabinets, crossovers and room correction. Modern hifi speakers are so much more than a box with some driver units in it.
Try and sit down at a Bentley's to hear your interiors options once you flash the cash... ostrich leather from a 200 head albino herd, endangered hardwood veneers from a private collection, Persian rug floor mats... etc. etc. Welcome to the high end where exclusivity is top priority.
Did you know these people are trying to achieve how it hears in a real concert in their home. Using the money to go to concerts with a comfortable seating is probably actually what they should be doing.
"How somebody rips off audiophiles because so many of them are morons who will overspend on anything as long as you hype it well enough" would be more accurate. We're talking about the types that will spend a thousand dollars on speaker wire and wouldn't even be able to tell the difference in an ABX test... but they'll sure swear they can hear a difference.
These guys seems like the real deal with the high end material sourcing, and hand honed features. But isnt all this compromised with such shoddy PCB solder joint work? Theres solder splash, and flux residue on those PCBs- short circuits or open circuit dry joint failure nightmares looming. Totally unacceptable for that ridiculous amount of money.
That jumped out at me immediately when watching this. I blew it up to full screen and was absolutely shocked at the poor workmanship, those boards were soldered by somebody with zero technique and for them to be shown to the world is quite the lapse.
So true, and seeing that I suspect that the design of the circuitry itself will have a many times destroying effect than all of his timbrel wood and soft stone can ever improve (assuming they even do so)
After I watched the video, I totally agree with Pulsonar. Our QA folks would never accept workmanship this poor. I don't know why they they use so many hand soldered wires to parts instead of leveraging more reliable reflow and wave soldering processes. Electronic circuits don't need to be hand-crafted.
I know enough about high quality audio design and manufacturing processes to tell you that there's no way the stuff he's building costs more than $10k to produce. And that's probably on the high end. He's really good at blowing smoke. Notice how he makes powder coat (paint) sound like some revolutionary process. And "aerospace level" components? No, more like expensive boutique components. Aerospace wouldn't use tube amps because they distort the signal. They distort it in a pleasing way to your ears, but still distorted nonetheless. But he's not selling these speakers to people who know anything about speakers, he's selling them to very rich people who associate a high price tag with high quality, which it is high quality. edit: truth be told, I'm jealous of this guy. I'd like to do exactly what he's doing someday. If he can sell enough to stay profitable, good for him. These speakers are art.
Michael, he was referring to the cables they use. They use cables from a company called Analysis Plus and their customers include NASA and Boeing, so that's what he was referring to. plus, they are using Mundorf Caps which can cost as high as $750 for one cap. There are certain applications that still use tubes. But yes, audio is the most prolific. But do you know how much a high quality Field Coil driver costs? Lowther charges $6K for one. Some of these drivers they are using a VERY rare, very expensive. I think you are more misleading that the owner of OMA. He's at least been in business for 10 years, so he must be doing something right. I'm sure they sell a respectible amount of product and their customers probably love their products, which is what it's all about. and yes, if they can make a profit in doing so, even better. But these small boutique audio companies aren't profit first quality second. They are quality first, profit second. Go ahead and really find out what they are doing before spouting bullshit that they only cost $10K to make a pair. That's probably more bullshit than anything the guy in the video is saying.
You don't have to be honest to be in business for a long time... It's very obvious that the markup on items like this is astronomical. There is a customer base of people that just want the most expensive things they can get. He takes minutes to explain things as plebeian as powder coating and metal casting. If that doesn't make things clear enough, look at the internal build quality. At $300,000 for a set of speakers, he can't even match the build quality of a $150 Corsair PSU... Buy into it if you want, but Michael isn't wrong by any means.
Reason people buy sports cars because of their performance. Of course, you know that you will be gaining attention and look rich with an expensive sports car. But if you are a car person, you are buying it for your enjoymeny
This company has literally gone back to 1920s and 30s technology. Single ended tube amps, 1928 style horns and wood cabinets. Surprised they don't make a cylinder player.
Vinyl fans are such idiots. Even lossy digital formats have surpassed it in every conceivable way. The only way vinyl sounds better is with the odd vinyl-only master or excessive amounts of placebo.
@@zthreetwo9874 Man, you blow my mind. I was looking at 308s this week, and found myself harkening back to the supra, a real sneaky firecracker. I think I concur with your judgement sir!
Are you talking about the entire system or just speakers? THX quality 5.1 speakers would easily set you back $10k. Half decent Amps $5 to 10K then you require the rest of the kit? I had a $5K setup in 1975 when a new car was $3 thousand !! And it all still works!! But 99.9% of people just want Movie quality Dooff Dooff and that's cheap to produce.
Then do yourself a favor, if you enjoy music (& you might more if you listen to the right system); explore the nearly infinite variations of system constructions, ones built from non box store equipment. You can even just start playing with old craigslist, second hand store pieces. I promise you no to systems, or configurations sound the same. And, yes some do sound mind blowingly amazing. There's something beyond volume, and bass; psychoacoustics for example are played vastly different across systems, and when done well create an almost "holographic" presence to sound. Then there's timbre, it's that variation in playback that is a result of introduced harmonics, from all equipment in the chain. Here's the thing some people will call it "distortion", and technically it is, however some distortion just sounds f!ing sweeeeet; most audio nuts will agree, and some pay exorbitant amounts ($300k+?) to get just that sound. Another thing to consider is the way all this comes together, in the soundstage; The width, depth, and sometimes height can seem larger than your living space with great setups. ....and on & on... it's a bit of a rabbit hole, but lots of fun. Cheers
Its even funnier Because right after he says this they show an amp enclosure that is barely filled with components & can literally be 30% of the size if the designers felt like not wasting tons of space.
Extremely low frequency sound waves can be 30m long, way larger than the length of a room in a house with the speaker system in it. You can still hear the sound though, because since sound travels 343m/s, it wouldn't be a problem to hear the fast moving longer waves.
Bro. Tolliver Well he is selling this and basically milking the whole process to sort justify the price, while the manufacturing process being actually very simple and typical of hand made.
The components are so high end they used cage transformers instead of the superior Toroidal. This company looks a joke to me, like a lot of 'high' end audio companies out there selling their version of snake oil, I bet the guy isnt even qualified in acoustics/audio/electronics.
Toroids R not superior, just lighter weight & a worse value = cost more 2 wind because can't just 'slap a sandwich together'. They do not sound better or worse. It's just a way 2 get equivalent performance with smaller size & less weight because of the more efficient use of the metal.
@@suzesiviter6083 BTW: 4 instance with the 'transformer shielding' thing, all shields R not the same, etc. Like I have some Peavey Rockmaster preamps with crazy high gain & NO noise, but the Marshall 9001 without nearly as much gain has a bit of buzz, which also bleeds into the Peaveys next 2 them in the rack if on at the same time, even though BOTH have shielded transformers =P Peavey 'engineering' is certainly better than Marshall, though the overal end result is not always better in terms of 'fidelity'.
@@Deathrape2001 Less EMI and better voltage stability is a fact, thats why every high end audiophile amplifier in existence with a linear psu, just about, uses Toriodals. Toroidal are more expensive, that's why most guitar manufacturers don't use them-due to the large Ferrite. Your standard transformer has to use split laminations to stop eddie currents-which can leak. Perhaps instead of arguing with myself, phone up an high end respected audio company like Niam or Linn and tell them they have used the wrong transformers?
I don't know how you formed a relevant opinion based on the few seconds of video at close range that showed what looked like an engineering prototype PWB. The areas that hadn't been reworked looked good. That the rework was done by a frustrated engineer trying to solve a design problem is obvious, I recognize the style. My guess is the response curve of the tube amplifier but whether it was for accommodating tube supply variations or for output matching transformer experiments or for the integrated response with a particular set of speakers (etc.) isn't obvious.
LorenzoNW that would be impossible due to copyrighting issues. You can buy same or higher quality serial product of reliable brand and then order custom wooden baloney made of any wood you desire for probably half of what you said. That is, if you actually had ten thousand dollars of easily disposable income in the first place.
Tube amps are a dead tech Roland, Fender, EV ,JBL the top companies for concert acoustics are getting away from that tech Go listen to a set of 10 inch EV's With W7' for kick on a P.P.I motherboard amp and you will say Fuck that tube amp!
Lol. You so donno what you talk about. you name P-E and sonorisation company. This is about Hi-fi home audio. And by the way Electro Voice is crap, JBL never used tubes. Fender top of the line amps are back to tubes Roland never used tubes. Tubes makes minimum 50 % of the best amp in the world.
I was expecting vacuum tubes to amplify sound, but instead found cheap circuits soldered together by hand.
$300 - Electronic parts
$1500 - Wood, stone, etc
$298200 - For this utter bullshit story abut bringing back Elvis
Poor Elvis, he would have rolled over a few times if he'd known his name was used to promote this stuff!!!!
highest quality components my arse. I use some of the absolute best components money can by on a regular basis, including custom made parts, and those parts are mid tier at best. the wiring is also a joke.
Welp, time to build a pair of speakers to blow those shown here out of the water, running off one of the most powerful tube amps every created, just because i feel like it.
😂😂😂
I rather reinforce my floor joists and find a 1.25 ton Genesis system and connect it into my cheap HK AVR-7200. xD
It's about time to heft that 70lb beast out of the cabinet and give it it's once a year or 2 cleaning.
the trick is to find ppl with money that fall for it, you only have to find a few with that kind of margin.
Spent 300 grand in the sound system
Plays .mp3 64kbps.
in mono ! please !
Hahahaha I swear people are actually like that though.
You could've stopped at .mp3
Or vinyl for that matter. People who actually cares about “sound reproduction” moved on from that as soon as newer tech came out lol
Also known as the sound of gravel
"We're the only company in the world that does this"
yeah man, I wonder if there's a reason for that
It hurts my head.
There are a lot of better ones. The "aerospace technology" says it all, it's just marketing garbage. They work with primitive methods and materials compared with other expensive manufacturers.
he says they use solid wood and thew video shows a laminate cylinder hahahaha classic self hype ..
@@ctr289 Exactly. They are just finding a way to mark up already expensive materials
you're better off with the latest and greatest tech in speaker system than this garbage.
"we have a foundry, where the metal is put solid and then It becames molten"
Yes that's How foundries work.
Beskar
We use planted trees which start from seeds and end up as hardwoods
@@LTV746 no one in the world does that! :))
@@LTV746 😂😂😂 I’m dying laughing. This is the best comment. 😂😂😂
Just like Terminator
Those solder joints are absolutely horrific, a cold iron was used, not enough flux, and the board was not cleaned after soldering. Look at all that residue! "Like aerospace level stuff" Lmao please!
Cameron Crosby
Wow! I had to look twice, but you are right! The soldering at the PCB is really poor. It looks like they soldered from the upper side?!
Anyway, people spending 300k for an audio system will probably never open the case. Who cares?
@50flamingbottles You imbecile. Anyone with an average knowledge in hobby electronics can agree on that pathetic soldering job!
I had to look twice too, but you're right. What a shoddy soldering job.
And the hard wiring from the board to the pots and switches is amateur hour. I've seen the hard wiring in equipment costing half has much made in Japan that is done cleaner and more neatly organized.
I took a screenshot and zoomed in. They must be joking, honestly it’s absolutely terrible. What a fricken disgrace 🤨
for 300 grand, I could dig up Elvis and make him sing to me
Hal nicely put, Patrón
😅😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hal you can fly to Vegas for $150 and see Elvis live
hill billy I live in Spain, so I'm afraid the fare will be a bit more expensive ;)
Lol
"we use aerospace grade stuff" shows PCB with AMETEK and Ohmite components, not to say the 10$ Sprague Atom Caps, yeah right.... :D Aerospace grade, really high level cheap components :)
He's used to saying all this BS to his rich clients, not RUclips people who have knowledge of these kind of things and can call him out 😂
@@winstonzeb2842 exactly! I can tell you know what’s up
The even better joke is calling TUBE AMPLIFIERS, "aerospace grade".
Was this video digitised footage from the 19th century? 😂😂😂
That's how you make business in USA 😂
China has a aerospace program lol😂
5:51 just saw a $1 chinese power switch.
i got one from radio shack :-)
the company will claim its hand beaten pure silver from the mines on mars. there a sucker company, you have to be a sucker to pay that much for all the bullshit there hosing out
@@kevinmorrice Lmaooooo I'm dying
Nope, made in house, solid platinuim.
And it's scratched...
But are they gluten free?
Perfect.
They are free-range. No GMO's
Rain forest alliance certified non conflict fair trade slate.
abyde 100% vegan now with 20g's of Protein.
Looking at his minimum wage, "overly excited" employee shutting the oven door, I would say.. full of gluten an other unwanted toxins.
Even the wood glue was made from an almost extinct truffle growing only in one far fetched corner of the world. It is then ground up by the Budweiser clydesdales to start the glue making process. Gives the glue a very regal sound.
The glue IS the Budweiser Clydesdales.
@jdeshetlerII You get the best one-liner in RUclips history award. Congrats.
"Gives the glue a very regal sound." yeah sure buddy, trying to justify the 300k$ with 99% markup LOL
@@pawelm5165 Sarcasm has defeated you.
You could literally build a professional mixing studio for this price, including an insane pair of speakers like ATC's and a wall of analog gear. Crazy.
and that would be really "hi fi", in the literal sense of high fidelity. Fidelity to the recorded, mixed, processed material. Especially if using ATC's
But that would require skills right ? I mean anything beyond a purchase transaction
@@vcfvr Well no, you could hire a team to do it for you.
This guy 😂. I’m sure the speakers sound great and I’m sure they depreciate around 90% within the first 24 hours.
Facts
“Martin guitar uses the same wood we do”
No, YOU use the same wood Martin guitars does.
and why would you want the wood to put it's sonic qualities into a tone ... you want the recorded music to do that, not the part that is supposed to be inert.
This guy weiss is a toolbag.
@@theodorepaul2610 I don't know of any tests offhand, but I've worked with a high end speaker manufacturer (and others) and the upper end designs use hard wood plywood. I've used MDF and solid woods for a few of my own designs, and so far I like Maple Plywood, the more layers the better. JMHO
@@theodorepaul2610 I’m working on designing my own horn systems (putting a CNC machine in my closet!) the only factors of how the wood “sounds” is mass and stiffness. They don’t really affect “tone”
Everyone stands on the same planet that I do.
I did electrical engineering in my studies and I can say that soldering job is quite shitty. My practical lab teacher would not have been amused.
aerospace technology from the 20s.
"Quality can't be miniaturized" cuz they cant solder a giant resistor well.
Spagg Trait Lead free is slightly more difficult to solder I admit. I use the stuff everyday and I can do a much better job than that. It's pretty bad. That is a class 1 or class 2 IPC standard level. It should be a 3
Nothing in this video shows the quality of soldering in OMA amplifiers. You can only see a guy soldering using point to point wiring, a method still widely employed today.
I 100% agree. For 300K USD that speaker needs to be world class. And it most definitely is not. Your better off getting a $200 speaker at Walmart.
5:25 It's not perfectly done, like a mess from a freshman
poor soldering ...
The first thing that popped into my head when I saw the close up shots of the circuit board.
Seriously though. That was bad. I was curious if anybody else noticed how crap that was.
Aerospace soldering bro.
i cried a little bit when I saw it
They solder it badly so it breaks and you have to spend another $300,000
I love how he talks about powder coating like it's some kind of lost artform or something. LMAO
And also how they use a diamond blade to cut the stone slab... haha what other blade would you use other than a diamond bladejajaja.
Even the joinery work. Maybe there aren't other people out there doing that with speakers, but people use dovetail joinery all the time.
Especially with melting metal and pouring it into a mold
Yea a lot of their techniques and materials have been put in speakers way less expensive yet equally amazing.
@@neykodimov2786 If you want a really clean cut you kind of have to use diamond blades.
"we make everything, so we have total control on the bullshitery " 😂
My IKEA wood chair contracts and expands in my home, so it's a living object.
@@stevezzzful Its cursed
It plays but stops when you turn your head...It. is. Sentient.
jajajaja
@Jimmy Dean it's not even a word
80% of your 300k, goes into R & D, in this case, a fat guy, sat in a red chair, in some elaborately decorated over priced mill, listening to Elvis.
Ricky Lee probably more like 95%
Where is his RD lab ? I'm guessing there are no spc sheets also.
puff puff
Yachts and gold toilets, that's where it goes!
Wow😂
for $300.000 i'd expect better soldering and cable management
Jeroen Verbeeck You did 300$ with a extra 0 in the cents, $300,000.00 is what you were going for.
Well if we're going to be a smartass; the dollar sign should be before the number. Also, in my country we actually do write it like I did.. What are we even talking about.. The fact still is that this absurdly overpriced speaker has some awful soldering. Even I did better soldering my first time
I always find the ignorance of a lot of Americans to other countries. Like I live in America and I know a lot of countries use periods and not commas for thousands places.
I guess he is intended to imply "come on we don't even accepts that if it is $300"
Eddi Kimball Oh wow you are dumb.
How a $300,000 Speaker is Made : 1. Make a random speaker. 2. sell it for $300,000
HAHA @ pretending N E 1 buys them =)) They R a '$how piece' 2 $ell much lower priced, but equally bad trash =))
Making a huge deal out of powder coating made me laugh
Shity but hurt people..
Knowing they ...can't afford.
Great Success!!!
and the same about all other process in this video. 300k? this man is mad.
Yeah, when you add up powder coating (super cheap), slate tiles between 20 and 40mm thick, some high end speakers + amplifier and some expensive hardwood your still 295,000 short of the price tag. What nonsense.
You can buy everything you need to powder coat from harbor freight!
rofl... powdercoating something that size here, costs about $45.
The pretentious meter is off the charts on this video!
My thoughts exactly. Snake oil salesman for sure
sold to hipsters.
@@TruthTortoise81 i wouldnt
I'd rather buy a new ferrari
"aerospace grade stuff" He had me on this one
''we melt steel in fire, just like in the Termintaro movie' HAHAHAHAHAHA omg
humans have done that for about 6000 years bro...
Not steel buddy. Steel's pretty hard to melt
Stop saying Bro, makes you look dumb.
@@Own7000 ok bro
@@Own7000 You not a bro?
@@kwando472 not your bro
I like how he talks about everything like it isn’t industry standards for halfway decent speakers
"Aerospace level stuff!" Hilarious.
I think he meant Aerosmith!!!!!
I know, right? If NASA was doing the same solder jobs as this guy, heads would be rolling.
Aerospace technology would be the Devialet Phantom speakers which are a far better value.
Apollo microchips maybe?
"The same capacitors they used on challenger II, micro chips with 32k memories and all that.""
"Like elvis is really there"
But the soundwaves being read are still only recorded on standard quality vinyl from 50 years ago. An expensive speaker and record player cant drastically enhance the sound if the sound being read is still on a regular old disc.
I believe that's the point - 50 years ago they would have been doing everything in analogue. It feels silly to say analogue as if it's a magical word that means perfect audio quality, but it's simply the case that an analogue signal is a far more simple and accurate way to produce sound. It just isn't at all convenient, and is more susceptible to interference.
There is lossless digital audio out there, but once it's gone through a ADC and a DAC on the other end, you do lose quality. Just ask any electrical engineer about it. The specifics of ADCs and DACs are pretty interesting.
coming to you live and direct..
"Help, get me out of this box!"
Right! That's just common sense, also Transcoding 101 from the Introductory Internet Pirating Manual ;]
I seem to recall "His Masters Voice" was RCA's dog, NOT ELVIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@Stewi1014 Agree, listing to 192khz compared to44.1khz and even 94khz (to me) is night and day on some old recordings
I'm an audiophile and $30,000 would be a ripoff for those $300K speakers. The cost of materials .. slate is a very cheap material so is wrought iron, aluminum, wood, welding again all common and cheap. These are sculptures at best and for wealthy people with more money than good sense.
If I had 300k, I would probably go for a pair of cheap aiwa SX-MS7 speakers over these
D Jaquith Yes, absolutely. Well said. I made some comments below.
saying you are an audiophile isn't giving you any credibility or points,its comparable to being an insane dumb-ass that hears things that arent there and thinks oxygen content in speaker wires is something you can hear in a recording.
D Jaquith
I would buy a house 👍
Form300k I wouldn’t buy this at all... why not a super car ?
I'll believe him if he had said: "we're the only company that marks up the price of our speakers by 300 times of what it actually costs."
Have you seen the price of the compression drivers they have to buy for their products?
You shouldn't exaggerate - actually, only about 4-5 times. Labor ain't cheap.
does it even have an aux port
No sorry, at this pricepoint we have moved on from mere means such as AUX and evolved to telepathically auditorial eXperience (TAX).
Best comment i've ever read
Our company can supply an Aux port for just $5K, the port is hand turned out of finest Indian birch grown on sacred burial grounds connected to the main board via wires using African Gold collected by albino miners.
Suzy Siviter Lmfao!
Hahaha.
"We make everything, so we have total control of the sound".
You don't make your own tubes....do you?
no info on the actual speaker? i was curious about magnet size and other specs, not the box
same... whole lot of talk about powdercoating, nothing about the driver
thats aerospace level stuff, its probably classified according to the owner
Him: "Soundwaves can't be miniaturized"
Me listening on headphones:
That`s a false claim, sound is "miniaturized" by reducing the dynamics
It is all about relativity. These folks seem to like Horns and it all starts at the APEX. So is it really miniaturized? Yes and No. A short distance away from the apex, as in headphones the size of the cone is small but the listening distance is also small. Looking at newer higher end headphones thy have gotten larger and larger drivers to better and more faithfully reproduce a particular note. Looking at the speakers in this video they are just farther from the Apex and the listening sweet spot is further away. In theory it is all the same horn, only taken to it's ultimate end. Now comes a problem. The small headphone driver can't move the same volume of air, so it will be weak and useless as a speaker at distance. These guys are all alike, they ignore facts or just toss out words like they know what they mean, to make a sales point.
Very extraordinary claims, with all the evidence speaking to the contrary.
"We use the very best components, aerospace stuff..." To my knowledge the aerospace industry moved away from vacuum tubes and vinyl in favor of way better systems decades ago.
"Solid wood joinery, no body does it!". A simple Google search will happily give you a few dozen companies that do just that.
"Everything is big because it has to be". While that might be true for the speaker membrane and cabinets, this is idiocy when applied to electronics.
"We give the absolute best sound" by using valves and vinyl, which are measurably worse and introduce all sorts of aberrations? By using cabinets that are shaped for optimal visual effect without the slightest consideration for acoustics? I really don't think so.
I am quite confident that with $2000 in electronics speakers, about $1000 in materials and about 40h of workshop time you could easily match their $300000 system. You could than spend the $297000 you saved in creating the most acoustically perfect room money could buy.
not better stuff, lighter stuff. but i hear ya man
I agree, the guy in the video used "energy", just like Elvis, to create sound waves and on my $1 speakers that energy was recreated realistically to produce the purest notes of "I am a salesman" - he did a good rendition tho.
TheWoldIsFullofSheep EducateYourselfDontBeOne you should listen to your user name.
TheWoldIsFullofSheep EducateYourselfDontBeOne Sure!
yoshyoka yes and MDF is actually better for speakers than wood as it is an homogenous material which is really good at absorbing vibrations.
$1000 for the speakers, and $299000 for the hand making process.
Lei Chen: Hahahaha. All about the manual labor. Why are HyperCars so expensive? Not because of material "carbon fiber maybe". Not because of the speed. But because of the manual labor. If I wanted a fast car I'd get a Tesla.
John Baptist the only fast thing about a tesla is the 0-60 anything else and its slow
Not even a thousand I bet.
Some people will pay anything for an hand job.
Actually, let's say it takes 2 weeks to produce with all the materials bought, you're looking at maybe $8k. Up that number by 30% to make a profit, and you're looking at $10k speakers. Still $290k to go.
Are those speakers so expensive because the people who are making them really move that slow as depicted in the video?
Geshtal302 It's the american way. Juice the clock.
well its powder coated. like my washer. and has slate, like my backyard. wow how amazing!
This is the best comment i have read in a long time XD
It's a "boutique halo product" marketing strategy. Honestly, the designs are not that impressive to me. It's for wealthy hippies that buy things like Alembic guitars once used by the Grateful Dead or whatever. It's not that these speakers are crap but they spend way too much money on things that don't affect performance and then even make some design compromises. The ideal speakers can be used for any kind of sound reproduction controlled by the electronics. These speakers are designed to have "character" and "panache" that people get excited over, and yet they 're introducing dispersion flaws that limit the ultimate performance of the speaker systems. I'm guessing there are some peaks and valleys in the frequency response any time you move the test mic from their idealized position.
They also treat the speakers like instruments (with their own organic character), as if all of these design elements help it reproduce the sound of natural instruments and that just is not how it works. Putting a speaker in a mahogany and ebony cabinet is totally different than stretching strings across the same lumber. I mean totally different. But even if their ideas did work in reality that would mean you need special speaker cabinets every time you change the programming from whatever signal you're feeding the speaker. The speakers must be neutral and transparent as a platform for the signal to reproduce the programming faithfully. Almost everything from the narrators of this video is bullshit.
Really, wealthy hippies? An oxymoron if ever I heard one. No, I suspect that this equipment is for those who value style over functionality. Perhaps some trust fund babies, or corporate execs who have too much money and too little sense of perspective.
If Apple made high end audio equipment - this would be it.
Molten iron! I didn't know that anyone on earth masters this difficult process. That steel joint alone is worth 50k. I'm ordering now.
Listening to this on a cheap bluetooth speaker. Sounds great.
so what about the speakers, how are they made.
ahahaha...
yes how the speakers are made!!!
imported from china :)
cashmere alloy
they order one from china and stich a label on it , and voila done
Is it surprising that my next recommended video is about fraud?
looooooooool
Mine is about somali pirates.
Mine is ..Bear Grills breaks down (some movie scene)
😂
My recommendation is DIY speakers under $300 lmao
This is why audiophiles are one of the oldest and most enduring memes.
as they say - a fool and his money are easily parted.
@@Johnnybananass-_ I certainly am a shining example of this.
I wonder if you've ever attended a high end audio show or listened to gear of this quality. I agree that this video is filled with PR and hype. But most people have never experienced great audio systems so can't make any judgments on sound quality.
@@brentwalker3300 i have and it have made me realize that 99% of audiophile products are fraudulent
@@theseriousaccount That "99%" figure is quite the bold statement and extremely difficult to quantify. It's really hard to define "audiophile products". And "fraudulent"? Wow, you should really start suing manufacturers if there is 99% of these products are fraudulent. Have at it Hoss.
Wish I could listen to that sound quality in person to judge for my self
Agree. Then one can place a value on it. Hell, with a $5000 system, I expect to jump out of my skin for that money. Every day.
probably won't, diminishing return is strong in the audio world
sharemymood It's more so about the hand made and work that goes into as opposed to just sound, it's one of those collectors rich people like to keep as master peice
I'm sure they sound great. They are using a very efficient speaker design and amp designs so you don't need lots of power to drive them. Some people prefer horn based speakers some don't. Some prefer tube electronics some don't. Some prefer to deal with listening to vinyl vs digital. It's all about convenience, personal preference and then exclusivity.
sharemymood You're paying for the design.
More expensive than the equipment in which the music was recorded in the first place.
great point
Jeff Oakley agreed
THATS WHAT I DONT UNDERSTAND
Who knows, maybe sound reproduction is more complicated than the raw recording???
@@paulf1071 It's really not.
Two words i would say: *Snake oil*
Yep. Wooden speaker box may actually sound kind of interesting... But really, a set of $1000 speakers with a nice, dense particleboard cabinet would sound practically identical, if not better.
Just one word will suffice. *deluded*
The most unbelievable part is that this company exists so someone must be buying these speakers!
I guess that in this case we could even speak aboud slate oil... :P
@Diax1324
Only if you're listening to some shitty 128k mp3 from your iPhone.
I got to stop reading the comments here in the middle of the night or risk waking up the entire family, so much comedy gold!
Full of marketing hypes. The quality of sound will not solely depend on materials.
Wow, he could sell ice to an Eskimo.
Lol! Only an Eskimo prick would buy his stuff. 🤪
And he could sell sand to Arabs in the desert 🤣🤣
Only to eskimos with a self image issue looking to buy ridiculously overpriced regular ice with the hope others lift their ego up in admiration
Judging by the majority of the responses, you might be insulting most of the Eskimos. I don't believe an Eskimo could be conned by this guy ....none of the responses have been conned.
Totally!
"Nobody else makes loudspeakers using solid wood joinery construction. Not today. Not that I know ever."
He REALLY didn't look very hard.
Joseph Keys I make speakers out of solid wood and joinery... In my driveway. Cat doesn't know what he's talking about.
I'm also having a hard time understanding their decision to use solid wood in the first place. MDF is not just cheaper, it's also superior in this application. Martin uses hardwood in their guitars BECAUSE they want the tone of it, in speakers you don't.
Concrete would be preferable to solid wood. At least then, you can be sure that cabinet resonance isn't a factor.
he meant in the room he was sitting
@@arilschultzen3017 the best speakers are made of plywood Tannoy .
That guy is an amazing salesman. Period. Who else could sell someone $30,000 worth of hardware and labor for $300,000!
I noticed that too, while the quality is unmatched, the price is also unmatched. That is the earnings from each product, almost a 10x investment.
@@Spsz6000 there are a surprising number of speaker brands that sell in the 250k+ price bracket
The speakers that were used to record, mix and master the music we listen to probably don't amount to $40,000 combined. A pair of Bowers & Wilkins can be had for around $20,000. Common to many mastering studios. The cost of these is ludicrous.
So are B&W speaker!!!! A sucker born every second....
B&W speakers is the most expensive you can get without be a sucker.
For 2000-3000e u can buy Dynaudio studio monitors, top class...
Yep. Somehow these retards buying this stuff think they can magically make it sound better than the components it was recorded on. I guarantee that Elvis's voice was recorded on some POS microphone from the 50s.
@@SoulArtSound You can buy a Genelec that are a much better.
I'm studying electrical engineering. That electrical work looks jank.
Lol
Johan Fouche what .... this is about management of sound waves. Electricity is binary where as sound waves oscillate at varying degrees of taste. It not just the equipment that’s at play it’s also the room where the equipment is being used that will affect sound waves.
@@younggunz4081 Thanks for pretending to be smart, answering an unasked question. Don't you worry son. I understood exactly what he was saying. We spoke of electrical engineering generally, of which SOUND....is almost an incalculable fraction of. The electrical components you use for amplification is where your quality of sound comes from. Do you use a simple 555 timer for your amp & lose quality......or do you put in a 4047 or 4080. Or do you use a 4971 IC. Is Does he want the old LP scratch effect added to all his records with a push of a button ? We're not playing: Lets install speakers & see which part of the room has the best acoustic. Management of sound waves ? You can adjust the components to give you almost anything. Then, knowing what ELECTRICAL waves & SOUNDWAVES are, you can design the BEST cones for each frequency ranged speaker, using solid wood, machining single units, bouncing the soundwaves & absorbing just the right amount, rather than plywood like these cheapskates here used & still charge 10 times what its worth. What wire will you use for the coils ? Not binary at all. And don't pretend like this is some art being displayed here for 300K either. its just some fool selling his ego to the world while some folks are actually uninformed enough to fall for his price tag.
@ Who's the one pretending to be smart now.
@@younggunz4081 lol electricity is binary. You maybe dont even know converting one lossless source to another lossless type can be debatable in term of audio quality (for example source dsd to pcm lossless). There's a lot to determine, from the source, dac, preamplifier, amplifier, frequency response, transducer, environment, etc. If we talk technical, there's pretty much to talk, but with the price like that is overprice... a well known brand like polk, sennheiser, stax etc highest tier product are not that much expensive.
I am terrifcally inspired! I'm starting my own company immediately, PlaceboSonic! ;)
Can you hire me, I can produce silver loaded quantum tunneling low dielectric mains cable and low-order harmonic high-Q super bandpass mains filters ).
Oh oh and hire me, I can develop cabinets of special hydroponic grown, bidirectional biodynamic wood that only sounds perfect when the growths rings are aligned with the gamma rays from the full moon.
Suzy Siviter: Remember to design those cables so that there are left side and right side cables. :-)
and i will clone your product with the name slaceboponic :o
and hire me too , i can do nothing
Maycry Devil then you have to get on of the leading posts. :-)
I’ve had three major acoustic revelations in my life:
1. When my dad’s four-way Dynaudio speakers made Whitney Houston stand right inside the room with “I Wanna Dance With Somebody”.
2. When I first heard the Stax Lambda Signature in 1991 with a Benny Goodman recording and felt like sitting within the orchestra.
3. When I finally bought my first own Lambda and could hear Anthony Kiedis in “Under The Bridge” with the full resonance of his chest, not just his voice.
All super expensive speakers have left me unimpressed though.
There have been no major advancements in audio since the CD. Most ‘advancements’ today are in the direction of smaller and cheaper.
@@jonathandavis9507that's not true lol
@@jonathandavis9507 As a consumer who has a certain budget, there very much is still a lot of innovation. Today, you can get far better speakers at any price point than 20 years ago. Many manufacturers are experimenting with driver design, cabinets, crossovers and room correction. Modern hifi speakers are so much more than a box with some driver units in it.
aerospace technology, special Pennsylvania hardwood, especially soft slate, special load of horse crap
that actually made me laugh..
I mean the guy has a point, what part about that do you not agree with ?
Try and sit down at a Bentley's to hear your interiors options once you flash the cash... ostrich leather from a 200 head albino herd, endangered hardwood veneers from a private collection, Persian rug floor mats... etc. etc. Welcome to the high end where exclusivity is top priority.
High my azz...lol
essentially: how to make designer furniture
Can it run CRYSIS ?
what?
Your attempt at humor utterly failed.
Hahaahaahhaa
! :)
jajaja 🤣
No
For that much money you could just go to all the concerts
im tellin ya!
Agreed!
the concert should have these speakers thou :P
BECAUSE COLTRANE IS STILL PLAYING...... some are dead dipshit. its about perfect reproduction of the music...
Did you know these people are trying to achieve how it hears in a real concert in their home. Using the money to go to concerts with a comfortable seating is probably actually what they should be doing.
Looks like the idea is more about buying artwork than a high quality speaker
I’m not impressed by the artwork
"How somebody rips off audiophiles because so many of them are morons who will overspend on anything as long as you hype it well enough" would be more accurate. We're talking about the types that will spend a thousand dollars on speaker wire and wouldn't even be able to tell the difference in an ABX test... but they'll sure swear they can hear a difference.
LOL nobody buys this $hit. It's 2 help promote their lower end trash.
You took the words out of my mind! I have a 1500$ sound system and won't spend a penny more. It's perfect for me as it is
Aerospace stuff , simply BS!
NASA is going to build their next rocket out of wood and load it with 1940s technology, it's the only way to go!
@@SSHitMan lmao, well makes sense cause our 1960s tech that supposedly took us to the moon was extremely pathetic..
audiophools
those are medium lv,l components
This is a very special slate made personally by Fred and Barney Rubble...😀
lol
Don't forget Joe Rockhead ... LMAO !!!
The dialogue is literally flavor text on the back of a "Signature" bag of chips
Yes because the aerospace industry only uses the highest quality sounds systems imaginable.
And through-hole components.
I think that's how he is playing up using mil spec grade components.
Gotta love me some modern, aerospace-grade... vacuum tubes.
These guys seems like the real deal with the high end material sourcing, and hand honed features. But isnt all this compromised with such shoddy PCB solder joint work? Theres solder splash, and flux residue on those PCBs- short circuits or open circuit dry joint failure nightmares looming. Totally unacceptable for that ridiculous amount of money.
That jumped out at me immediately when watching this. I blew it up to full screen and was absolutely
shocked at the poor workmanship, those boards were soldered by somebody with zero technique and for them
to be shown to the world is quite the lapse.
listening to modern badly pressed records,digitaly remasterd
So true, and seeing that I suspect that the design of the circuitry itself will have a many times destroying effect than all of his timbrel wood and soft stone can ever improve (assuming they even do so)
After I watched the video, I totally agree with Pulsonar. Our QA folks would never accept workmanship this poor. I don't know why they they use so many hand soldered wires to parts instead of leveraging more reliable reflow and wave soldering processes. Electronic circuits don't need to be hand-crafted.
It's really, really bad looking when you pause the video on the board. Ooof...
I know enough about high quality audio design and manufacturing processes to tell you that there's no way the stuff he's building costs more than $10k to produce. And that's probably on the high end. He's really good at blowing smoke. Notice how he makes powder coat (paint) sound like some revolutionary process. And "aerospace level" components? No, more like expensive boutique components. Aerospace wouldn't use tube amps because they distort the signal. They distort it in a pleasing way to your ears, but still distorted nonetheless. But he's not selling these speakers to people who know anything about speakers, he's selling them to very rich people who associate a high price tag with high quality, which it is high quality.
edit: truth be told, I'm jealous of this guy. I'd like to do exactly what he's doing someday. If he can sell enough to stay profitable, good for him. These speakers are art.
Michael, he was referring to the cables they use. They use cables from a company called Analysis Plus and their customers include NASA and Boeing, so that's what he was referring to. plus, they are using Mundorf Caps which can cost as high as $750 for one cap.
There are certain applications that still use tubes. But yes, audio is the most prolific.
But do you know how much a high quality Field Coil driver costs? Lowther charges $6K for one. Some of these drivers they are using a VERY rare, very expensive.
I think you are more misleading that the owner of OMA. He's at least been in business for 10 years, so he must be doing something right. I'm sure they sell a respectible amount of product and their customers probably love their products, which is what it's all about. and yes, if they can make a profit in doing so, even better. But these small boutique audio companies aren't profit first quality second. They are quality first, profit second.
Go ahead and really find out what they are doing before spouting bullshit that they only cost $10K to make a pair. That's probably more bullshit than anything the guy in the video is saying.
You really have bought one, havn't you? hahahaha
My guess is people buy his speakers for the same reason why people buy sportscars, iPhones, and starbuckls coffee, it makes them look rich and cool.
You don't have to be honest to be in business for a long time... It's very obvious that the markup on items like this is astronomical. There is a customer base of people that just want the most expensive things they can get. He takes minutes to explain things as plebeian as powder coating and metal casting. If that doesn't make things clear enough, look at the internal build quality. At $300,000 for a set of speakers, he can't even match the build quality of a $150 Corsair PSU... Buy into it if you want, but Michael isn't wrong by any means.
Reason people buy sports cars because of their performance. Of course, you know that you will be gaining attention and look rich with an expensive sports car. But if you are a car person, you are buying it for your enjoymeny
Something tells me the story and theatre behind the build is more impressive than how they actually sound
This company has literally gone back to 1920s and 30s technology. Single ended tube amps, 1928 style horns and wood cabinets. Surprised they don't make a cylinder player.
U should here their Morse code players!!!
It's $214,000.
Horn speakers are fine, the whole vinyl thing and outdated distorting tube amp business is just retarded.
TribeWars1 fck off tube amps sound great
socksumi
Is there anything you have to wind up? 😊
intro music? how would this compare to my JBL charge? i might need to pick it up
$300,000 speaker and plays vinyl that has half the dynamic range of anything digital.
vinyl does sound better though
vinyl sound much much better and accurate digital sound. it's simple. because its analogue.
@@zerotickpulse i hate ignorant people like you.
Horrible filtering on vinyl. But it changes the sound, and some people like it better.
Vinyl fans are such idiots. Even lossy digital formats have surpassed it in every conceivable way. The only way vinyl sounds better is with the odd vinyl-only master or excessive amounts of placebo.
Wow. Solid hardwood. Such an amazing and rare material...
they look nice tho
Solid wood is not a smart choice for loudspeakers cabinet...
This guy is so full of BS. I was waiting for him to say "I invented sound."
Really, I think he could sell Trump a pair or two.
But he has all the best words: "Terminator", "solid state", "diamond blade", "Martin guitars"... c'mon!
tmichael80 remember Gore invented the Internet
If they come in gold color and connect to a television.
trump oil
Ill buy a Ferrari instead and listen to its exhaust note at 200mph!!!!
😂😂😂
You could buy yourself three Ferraris at that price man, unless you insisted on buying new.
Id rather build a 800hp turbo supra and still have enough money to buy 2 Ferrari's.
@@zthreetwo9874 Man, you blow my mind. I was looking at 308s this week, and found myself harkening back to the supra, a real sneaky firecracker. I think I concur with your judgement sir!
You'll hit a light pole or kill some people...and you know it. Stick with your Walkman kid!
I made some tall speakers from used car speakers and they sound incredible when played in my music shed where elvis truly lives.
what was that song played in the very beginning
where the gold flakes and truffle shavings at?
.
For 300k I can hire the Foo Fighters!
There are not a lot of idiots with $300,000 lying around, but for those few, there is OMA!
Thank you for the video!
listen to a fart with that $300.000 sound system must be fantastic. it will bring it back to life.
You can even smell it
It only smellz.
yeah , the fart sound will become crispier and warmth than ever..
XDD
Yan Campos I better be able to smell the fart coming from those speakers !!!
"It's very eerie... It's like a dead person is farting right there. What? Oh, there is a dead person right there... explains the smell"
I think everything above ten grand is bs.
Are you talking about the entire system or just speakers? THX quality 5.1 speakers would easily set you back $10k. Half decent Amps $5 to 10K then you require the rest of the kit? I had a $5K setup in 1975 when a new car was $3 thousand !! And it all still works!! But 99.9% of people just want Movie quality Dooff Dooff and that's cheap to produce.
i think hes talking about the speakers, bcs the video is about that
Then do yourself a favor, if you enjoy music (& you might more if you listen to the right system); explore the nearly infinite variations of system constructions, ones built from non box store equipment. You can even just start playing with old craigslist, second hand store pieces. I promise you no to systems, or configurations sound the same. And, yes some do sound mind blowingly amazing.
There's something beyond volume, and bass; psychoacoustics for example are played vastly different across systems, and when done well create an almost "holographic" presence to sound. Then there's timbre, it's that variation in playback that is a result of introduced harmonics, from all equipment in the chain.
Here's the thing some people will call it "distortion", and technically it is, however some distortion just sounds f!ing sweeeeet; most audio nuts will agree, and some pay exorbitant amounts ($300k+?) to get just that sound.
Another thing to consider is the way all this comes together, in the soundstage; The width, depth, and sometimes height can seem larger than your living space with great setups.
....and on & on... it's a bit of a rabbit hole, but lots of fun.
Cheers
Jax Nean but how about a house?
Jax Nean 😂😂😂
Can someone please tell where can I find an audiophile so I can sell him magic beans?
"Sound waves can't be miniaturised.. it's physics." .. Hahahah
Its even funnier Because right after he says this they show an amp enclosure that is barely filled with components & can literally be 30% of the size if the designers felt like not wasting tons of space.
Extremely low frequency sound waves can be 30m long, way larger than the length of a room in a house with the speaker system in it. You can still hear the sound though, because since sound travels 343m/s, it wouldn't be a problem to hear the fast moving longer waves.
@@twistieman1078 Your understanding of physics is as appalling as the guy in the video.
As an industrial designer (aka product designer) I can confirm this is all BS from design to manufacturing lol
in what ways?
Arin I from design to manufacturing
Pete Sandov what part is BS? What did the video say that is untrue or embellished?
Bro. Tolliver Well he is selling this and basically milking the whole process to sort justify the price, while the manufacturing process being actually very simple and typical of hand made.
I'm not an industrial designer and I could smell the BS as well. Thanks for the confirmation tho!
Got diarrhea after watching this video, a lot of BS that I just couldn't digest!
Crypted Frost 😂😂😂
Try an asprin, might help your tummy
Right!!! Bahahahahahahaha!
what's the song at the begenning
If we’ve used this guy’s aerospace definition of quality? We would have never reached the Moon.
Nobody went 2 the moon. It was a corporate welfare scam.
music in the beginning please??
Did you find the song?
But can it run the ambiant sounds of Crysis ?
But does it make coffee?
No. They would overwhelm the cold solder joints on the amplifier boards.
Underrated comment.
hell yea!
What about Crysis 3?
We need the dam intro song. NOW.
"aerospace-grade circuitry" lol
The components are so high end they used cage transformers instead of the superior Toroidal. This company looks a joke to me, like a lot of 'high' end audio companies out there selling their version of snake oil, I bet the guy isnt even qualified in acoustics/audio/electronics.
Toroids R not superior, just lighter weight & a worse value = cost more 2 wind because can't just 'slap a sandwich together'. They do not sound better or worse. It's just a way 2 get equivalent performance with smaller size & less weight because of the more efficient use of the metal.
@@Deathrape2001 less emi, that can equate to better sound.
@@suzesiviter6083 BTW: 4 instance with the 'transformer shielding' thing, all shields R not the same, etc. Like I have some Peavey Rockmaster preamps with crazy high gain & NO noise, but the Marshall 9001 without nearly as much gain has a bit of buzz, which also bleeds into the Peaveys next 2 them in the rack if on at the same time, even though BOTH have shielded transformers =P Peavey 'engineering' is certainly better than Marshall, though the overal end result is not always better in terms of 'fidelity'.
@@Deathrape2001 Less EMI and better voltage stability is a fact, thats why every high end audiophile amplifier in existence with a linear psu, just about, uses Toriodals. Toroidal are more expensive, that's why most guitar manufacturers don't use them-due to the large Ferrite. Your standard transformer has to use split laminations to stop eddie currents-which can leak.
Perhaps instead of arguing with myself, phone up an high end respected audio company like Niam or Linn and tell them they have used the wrong transformers?
@@suzesiviter6083 fr I agree no cap
5:24 That's some shitty soldering...
Jiří Bednář first thing I noticed what the hackjob soldering. what the fuck
3 0 0 k
It's because it's old school, you obviously wouldn't know that a bad soldering job is to keep a more "pure" sound
I don't know how you formed a relevant opinion based on the few seconds of video at close range that showed what looked like an engineering prototype PWB. The areas that hadn't been reworked looked good. That the rework was done by a frustrated engineer trying to solve a design problem is obvious, I recognize the style. My guess is the response curve of the tube amplifier but whether it was for accommodating tube supply variations or for output matching transformer experiments or for the integrated response with a particular set of speakers (etc.) isn't obvious.
You don't pay 300k for a prototype.
@bloomberg What is the song´s name starting at 0:04?
Did you find it?
whats the very first song in the video?
What is that first song? I don't listen to a lot of Lofi stuff
Wow! Welding and powder coating....incredible technology.
Production cost: $ 25
More like $9.99
what do speaker have to do with racism?
Yes I'm sure those guys outside sweating their asses off acquiring the slate do it for some fraction of $25....
Really! I'd love to order a dozen pairs from you at $10K each. You should make a killing on this deal. Let me know when you're ready to do business.
LorenzoNW that would be impossible due to copyrighting issues. You can buy same or higher quality serial product of reliable brand and then order custom wooden baloney made of any wood you desire for probably half of what you said.
That is, if you actually had ten thousand dollars of easily disposable income in the first place.
"Sound waves can't be miniaturized. It's physics." Tell that to my ear buds right now!
It's like we're taking Elvis and shoving him through our components & right into your living room. That's what amazing sound quality is.
Those look like crappy speakers with outdated technology.
That 70s vinyl technology is so 20th century. Spotify and those hipster earbuds are so dope....🙄🙄🙄
He talks about technology and shows a pile of junk.
Special slate,special wood...aerospace grade whatever....industrial strength bullshit!!
$2,000 for the speakers. $10, 000 for paying hill-billies to hand make them
And $288,000 for snake oil magic woo clap trap.
Marketing verbiage at its best!
It's pose factor art stuff ~ not actual performance. U can get better performance from a cardboard tube instead of a box (can't flex).
More like $100,000 2 promote them & tour them trying 2 find shallow clowns 2 buy them =)) All those trade shows & salesman trips HAHA
No matter how much you spend on your sound system, something in your audio collection will make it sound like crap. That's a hard and fast rule.
Sound can’t be shrunk down. Love this
ladies and gentlemen... I present you..snake-oil...
You probably own cheap solid state PC speakers and play MP3s. Go to an audio show and listen to some horned speakers with SE tube amplifiers..
@Fendernirvana
What?.......Also............What?
120-13,000 after 40. y.0.
Tube amps are a dead tech Roland, Fender, EV ,JBL the top companies for concert acoustics are getting away from that tech Go listen to a set of 10 inch EV's With W7' for kick on a P.P.I motherboard amp and you will say Fuck that tube amp!
Lol. You so donno what you talk about. you name P-E and sonorisation company. This is about Hi-fi home audio. And by the way Electro Voice is crap, JBL never used tubes. Fender top of the line amps are back to tubes Roland never used tubes. Tubes makes minimum 50 % of the best amp in the world.
What's the music in the begining.