@@StCreed god, you internet know it all’s! They actually do have their products reviewed, their speakers have been reviewed as has their new top of the line record deck reviewed by Michael Fremmer very very favorably has have their speakers. Before spouting conspiracies actually do some work and research facts, I can only assume you must be a Trump supporter based on your lack of FACT!
I was fortunate enough to be able to spend the weekend at Jonathan’s a few years every spring when he hosted an annual Tube Tasting. He’s actually an incredibly kind, giving, generous person. People came from all over, and brought their homemade stuff, and got a chance to play them for everyone. One year the scientist / engineer who led the development of the modern loudspeaker driver when he was at RCA gave a lecture on the project. Fascinating. Oswalds Mill is definitely different
This really open my eyes. May be one day, I can afford to open my ears as well. Thanks Steve for taken us to this journey. I'm voting with both hands to continue the series for other components.
If you accept the proposition that vinyl source, super efficient loudspeakers, and tube power is the way to go, you can enjoy the OMA ideas on a very limited budget.
Regarding more OMA videos, to quote Steve, "I think we're done here!". I'm sure the equipment sounds fine but to pitch the idea that advancement in sound reproduction reached its zenith in the early 20th century? C'mon...
@@craigsummerville8823 I didn't take it like that at all. Granted, he's a salesman. He was merely pointing out that designers were compelled to utilize force multipliers, in this case baffle width, to maintain a more constant acoustic load with respect to frequency. Regardless of era, that's good engineering that's still in use today at the highest levels of playback quality.
It is really enjoyable to see dedicated people like this who think so far out of the box, and are truly looking of ways to move the high end audio outside of the norm. I have been an audiophile for many decades, and I was very lucky to move from being an audiophile hobbyist, to being able to own and operate a semi high end audio store in Wisconsin in the 70's and 80's. I was able to travel to the CES shows and see many amazing products, but more important to people who are so dedicated to the determination of designing the very best products they can, even sometimes when they might no make a large sum of money. It is the science first and the cash second. I know sometimes those thoughts do not make for a successful business, but just the thoughts of someone doing things like this is truly impressive. Many years ago I met Doctor Hill at the Vegas winter CES show. Everyone was talking about his Hill's Plasmatronic speakers. Dr Hill was an atomic physicists who happened to be an audiophile. So he used his technical knowledge to build a truly amazing plasma driver in a very unique system. When questioned about the price (at that time about $25,000) he replied, that he and his son are driven by the technology to achieve his goals, not really a price point. So people out there are more interested in designing the very best, and they think very far out of the box.
Yes! I love their work - i just wish i had the money to put it in my home! : ) but it's great to see someone working like this in Hi-Fi. Would LOVE to see more!
It’s funny how people who have never heard the gentleman’s speakers have an opinion already. The gear looks great and I am very curious how these speakers would sound.
Regardless of what his product line is capable of, It's the guy's demeanor. It's off putting, desperate and very much full of something. Just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Like a day old bagel, lol.
@@jareknowak8712 I'm sure they sound incredible but coming from someone with my skill set I don't see the value. Minus the drivers you have something that can be made very easily and with materials that are very common place.
What a wonderful video! Two refined music lovers and true gentlemen having a nice, highly interesting conversation on sound and sound reproduction. Thank you for this! God bless you both!
Steve, keep it up love the roll you are on. The mix of; everyman hifi stuff, super budget hifi stuff, space age hifi stuff , James Bond evil villain hi fi stuff!...just love it. keep it up, you are inspiring me in my audiophile journey and have made the horn speaker lover in me smile with your recent championing of them!
This is a fascinating company - would love to see a series on this Steve, and updates as products come out. Probably priced into the stratosphere but allegedly justified by performance, plus good old fashioned American work using American raw materials, it's part of what makes this country great.
Ric Byer Research Lenco L 75. It was a classic idler. Apparently idlers have less loss of speed when the stylus drag (friction) changes due to the density of the recording. Apparently this can be heard. I used to have an idler in the early 70's. In the 80's all I heard was that belt was better, less rumble so I got a belt drive. Then CDs were the way to go so I went digital. Now someone wants to tell me turntables and vinyl are better?
@@kirarittberg5088 A well implemented DD with quartz control is better than either idler or belt-driven turntables. Just look at the rumble and W&F measurements. I have the L75, and I now use it for my 78s. I used it as my main table for some time. It's great, but my JVC QL50 with an SME arm is much better. CDs are also great. In most cases, when a CD sounds bad it's because of bad mastering, not because of the medium itself.
Another great video, Mr. Guttenberg - indeed you may even say I've been waiting for this one, and its horn-likes..! Please return with a follow-up(s) from Mr. Weiss and his OMA adventure.
I enjoy Jon's passion. I also love that his customers just want to hear music and not get into the mix and match component game. Very cool stuff for sure, marrying great design with great audio with unique esthetics...perfect for one of those cool Brooklyn Heights abodes. Just not affordable for most of us.
I'm impressed by the contrast between equipment like this, extremely large and extremely expensive versus equipment like Dayton Audio, small and inexpensive. Terrific range of equipment that Steve presents to us. I love it.
I definitely want to hear about the direct drive vs idler drive! I own all three types, all over 20 years old, but all very well enjoyed. Mr. Weiss is a very interesting person, thank you for this interview.
I wonder if he had been expecting to hear all the stuff, rather than jsut the owner ramble on. I know if I had spent that much time there and never heard anything play, I would have been miffed.
Oh and yes, more of this wonderful company please including a tour of their mill in Pennsylvania please, this company needs to be seen way more than it is!
His company is one of many that are not know the general public because it is UTLRA HIGH END. His company like many others CATER to those who can afford such systems which is basically the FILTHY RICH. You are talking about spending over $100,000 just for loudspeakers alone.
Love his philosophy. When I started building my all vintage system I went with large, high efficiency speakers paired with 100 watt amps so the amps would loaf along at normal levels. OMA has a new turntable coming, btw.
Probably wouldn't be buying this type of gear even IF had the money to spend.... but I absolutely love to see and learn about it. I could watch hours of this!
You are absolutely right, I have done electronics engineering whole my life, I am 59 years old and learn a lot trough my life, this is just another cork sniffer
There are a few of his personal ideas in there that won't appeal to the text bookers, but the ideas are worth the exploration, I'm happy he explored without boundaries because to me all audiophile explore based on personal biases reinforced with theoretical knowledge. He may have explained some aspects from a position of lesser knowledge but the concept of the idea is still worth the appreciation.
Usually, when Steve interviews someone there is a lot of back and forth discussion and you can tell he really enjoys the interaction. This guy can't stop blowing his horn long enough to engage in any actual discussion. It's just him telling us how it is, and you can see what a gentleman Steve is by the way he responds.
@@mosespray4510 I 100% agree with you.. Steve tries to jump in a few times and eventually just gives up and lets him talk.. This guy is full of himself and believes he's a genius
I absolutely love the look of all that hardware. And the biggest speakers are far larger than I thought, from seeing only photos! Would be interested to hear that system in the best room for it.
Always great to see originality and a person with passion for what he does. I would love to hear some of his gear. Not very mover friendly items. 200 lbs amps and 500 lb speakers. That's some heavy stuff.
How refreshing - I think he's right in that the equipment is definitely eye-catching and looks amazing. I would love to hear what they all sound like as I have not seen anything remotely resembling some of these items in this video. I REALLy like what je done with the Technics deck and I have always thought idler-drives (I'm a Garrard fan) have a start-stop poignancy which has few equals out there in the modern hifi world. Would I like to see more....? Yes please!
I’m not sure about the speakers because I love my traditional boxes but their Amplifier philosophy seems interesting. Another entertaining video Steve. Cheers 😎
I suspect the original video of this interview had the f word @ 7:30, which Steve has (almost) seamlessly removed. The horn speakers must have incredible sensitivity to be driven by amps with so few watts. Jonathan Weiss is an interesting guy and Oswalds Mill clearly manufactures interesting kit 👏👏
On my bucket list to listen! I like many elements of his design philosophy but proof in pudding! I love low power SETs on horns and open baffles so all his stuff is right up my alley. How does one get a demo?!
Yes, please add another video on Turntable design. OMA speakers and amps are heavy. What is the reliability factor? How do you move the audio in the listening room and if one ever needs a repair, how do you send back to the factory? Great video! Love the Design!
I have sat in that room, heard the most life-like reproduction of music i could have imagined. He played Coltrane-Blue Train, amazing. He uses field-coils to drive the horns on (all, some?) of his speakers, this has a huge effect on the sound. If I had the money, and space, I would buy an OMA system and never look back. Since OMA as a company is so obsessive, the time-alignment, cross-over and interaction the amps makes for a very coherent sound. JW can be a politicizing figure, but his heart is in the right place and he is not selling BS.
Thanks to Jonathan Weiss, for the open and forthcoming discussion, on that fascinating looking gear he's building. I'd like to know more about it. It would be a treat to hear it play, but as you mentioned previously, Steve, yt audio demos are a non starter. It's certainly visually unusual and attractive.
These pieces certainly make a visual statement.Very high sensitivity (Loud)speakers there.A very retro/industrial feel .Quite different from the mainstream.
Steve: Please say you are going to follow up with a review!
Nope - OMA has a no-review policy. For good reason, I assume :)
@@StCreed god, you internet know it all’s! They actually do have their products reviewed, their speakers have been reviewed as has their new top of the line record deck reviewed by Michael Fremmer very very favorably has have their speakers. Before spouting conspiracies actually do some work and research facts, I can only assume you must be a Trump supporter based on your lack of FACT!
Looks like we're in the props department for the Wizard of Oz
or dr suess !!!
Makes some sense since the technology is the same and or inspired by what would have been behind the screen at the premiere of Wizard of Oz.
I was fortunate enough to be able to spend the weekend at Jonathan’s a few years every spring when he hosted an annual Tube Tasting. He’s actually an incredibly kind, giving, generous person. People came from all over, and brought their homemade stuff, and got a chance to play them for everyone. One year the scientist / engineer who led the development of the modern loudspeaker driver when he was at RCA gave a lecture on the project. Fascinating. Oswalds Mill is definitely different
I wonder if he would do more public events once covid finally dies
This really open my eyes. May be one day, I can afford to open my ears as well. Thanks Steve for taken us to this journey. I'm voting with both hands to continue the series for other components.
I like his philosophy, if only wisdom wasn’t so expensive 😢
If you accept the proposition that vinyl source, super efficient loudspeakers, and tube power is the way to go, you can enjoy the OMA ideas on a very limited budget.
Regarding more OMA videos, to quote Steve, "I think we're done here!". I'm sure the equipment sounds fine but to pitch the idea that advancement in sound reproduction reached its zenith in the early 20th century? C'mon...
Agree
@@craigsummerville8823
I didn't take it like that at all.
Granted, he's a salesman.
He was merely pointing out that designers were compelled to utilize force multipliers, in this case baffle width, to maintain a more constant acoustic load with respect to frequency.
Regardless of era, that's good engineering that's still in use today at the highest levels of playback quality.
It ain't the wisdom that's so expensive. It's all the damn hard work!
Make it a series, please. Strong design philosophies and passions are always interesting to hear.
It is really enjoyable to see dedicated people like this who think so far out of the box, and are truly looking of ways to move the high end audio outside of the norm. I have been an audiophile for many decades, and I was very lucky to move from being an audiophile hobbyist, to being able to own and operate a semi high end audio store in Wisconsin in the 70's and 80's. I was able to travel to the CES shows and see many amazing products, but more important to people who are so dedicated to the determination of designing the very best products they can, even sometimes when they might no make a large sum of money. It is the science first and the cash second. I know sometimes those thoughts do not make for a successful business, but just the thoughts of someone doing things like this is truly impressive. Many years ago I met Doctor Hill at the Vegas winter CES show. Everyone was talking about his Hill's Plasmatronic speakers. Dr Hill was an atomic physicists who happened to be an audiophile. So he used his technical knowledge to build a truly amazing plasma driver in a very unique system. When questioned about the price (at that time about $25,000) he replied, that he and his son are driven by the technology to achieve his goals, not really a price point. So people out there are more interested in designing the very best, and they think very far out of the box.
I would like to hear the sound of the various speakers they manufacture.
Yes! I love their work - i just wish i had the money to put it in my home! : )
but it's great to see someone working like this in Hi-Fi. Would LOVE to see more!
I still want to HEAR the STUFF..
Yes, I want to see more videos of this guy explaining his no-A (rt) beautiful audio stuff! Awesome equipment he's got there.
It’s funny how people who have never heard the gentleman’s speakers have an opinion already. The gear looks great and I am very curious how these speakers would sound.
Regardless of what his product line is capable of, It's the guy's demeanor. It's off putting, desperate and very much full of something. Just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Like a day old bagel, lol.
They probably sound as good as nothing. But they smell very well.
@@jareknowak8712 I'm sure they sound incredible but coming from someone with my skill set I don't see the value. Minus the drivers you have something that can be made very easily and with materials that are very common place.
Don't have to hear them. Horns ALWAYS color the sound, never in a good way!
@@usandthemx Says the man who is proud of his Confederate flag.No! You wont rise again. You will be deported again.
That's great, Steve. Take him up on his offer: I'd watch any hi-fi topic the two of you'd expound on--his turntable idea is especially good. Thanks!
This goes several levels above my hi end experience - will my ears hear the difference? Probably ! Great video ! Keep it going !
What a wonderful video! Two refined music lovers and true gentlemen having a nice, highly interesting conversation on sound and sound reproduction. Thank you for this! God bless you both!
He bragged about his product. No conversation.
What a great video. More of these amazing designs please.
Two requirements to have that gear in your home. A huge room and a forklift. Very enjoyable interview.
Verne Mattson And a huge bank account.
LOL
Along with reinforced floors and hopefully no neighbors.
Steve, keep it up love the roll you are on. The mix of; everyman hifi stuff, super budget hifi stuff, space age hifi stuff , James Bond evil villain hi fi stuff!...just love it. keep it up, you are inspiring me in my audiophile journey and have made the horn speaker lover in me smile with your recent championing of them!
Count my yes for a follow up video on their turntables.. great interview.
I heard a few at OMA Brooklyn, and the Imperias changed my life.
This is a fascinating company - would love to see a series on this Steve, and updates as products come out. Probably priced into the stratosphere but allegedly justified by performance, plus good old fashioned American work using American raw materials, it's part of what makes this country great.
Enjoyed this. I'd like to know more about the direct drive vs idler :)
Me, too!
Me too!
Ric Byer Research Lenco L 75. It was a classic idler. Apparently idlers have less loss of speed when the stylus drag (friction) changes due to the density of the recording. Apparently this can be heard. I used to have an idler in the early 70's. In the 80's all I heard was that belt was better, less rumble so I got a belt drive. Then CDs were the way to go so I went digital. Now someone wants to tell me turntables and vinyl are better?
me, three
@@kirarittberg5088 A well implemented DD with quartz control is better than either idler or belt-driven turntables. Just look at the rumble and W&F measurements. I have the L75, and I now use it for my 78s. I used it as my main table for some time. It's great, but my JVC QL50 with an SME arm is much better. CDs are also great. In most cases, when a CD sounds bad it's because of bad mastering, not because of the medium itself.
Another great video, Mr. Guttenberg - indeed you may even say I've been waiting for this one, and its horn-likes..! Please return with a follow-up(s) from Mr. Weiss and his OMA adventure.
I enjoy Jon's passion. I also love that his customers just want to hear music and not get into the mix and match component game. Very cool stuff for sure, marrying great design with great audio with unique esthetics...perfect for one of those cool Brooklyn Heights abodes. Just not affordable for most of us.
I'm impressed by the contrast between equipment like this, extremely large and extremely expensive versus equipment like Dayton Audio, small and inexpensive. Terrific range of equipment that Steve presents to us. I love it.
Agreed I like to see all sides of audio.
I loved this guy. Awesome stuff!
Wow...so cool ! Really creative and hardworking entrepreneurial people.
I want to see his turntables. Thanks
I definitely want to hear about the direct drive vs idler drive! I own all three types, all over 20 years old, but all very well enjoyed. Mr. Weiss is a very interesting person, thank you for this interview.
Love this guy. A champion of good sound. Also love that he doesn't bother with ironing his shirt.
Interesting approach to home audio, yes more of it will be appreciated.
Is it me or was Steve like:, "I'm done with this stuff" at the end?
Maybe his battery was flashing or data was filled up. Seemed rushed. But as someone who does videos, having a battery warning flash can cause stress.
Xander Guldie, Hahahaha!
I think it was more like "Well, that explained it better than anything else could! There's nothing more to add"
I think Steve was polite and a good listener, but he'd definitely had enough. The Weiss guy was incredibly boorish.
I wonder if he had been expecting to hear all the stuff, rather than jsut the owner ramble on. I know if I had spent that much time there and never heard anything play, I would have been miffed.
ok thats was different steve thank you for this video
Wow. What a character! Really enjoyed watching it. You should do the follow up video
Very cool products. I am glad there are people making it, and there are people that can afford it.
Makes me drool dreaming of having a room large enough for the big horns and enough disposable income to purchase all his gear. Fantastic interview!
Pre 1930 audio was big and efficient due to need but we forgot how good it was
Oh and yes, more of this wonderful company please including a tour of their mill in Pennsylvania please, this company needs to be seen way more than it is!
His company is one of many that are not know the general public because it is UTLRA HIGH END. His company like many others CATER to those who can afford such systems which is basically the FILTHY RICH. You are talking about spending over $100,000 just for loudspeakers alone.
I don't have the money or the room for those components and speakers but I'm glad that a company like Owens Mills Audio exists and is doing well.
Yes I would like to hear the information about the turntables please. Very interesting to hear about innovation in implementing acoustical design.
Fascinating. I'm very much looking forward to a follow up Steve and soon please.
Love his philosophy. When I started building my all vintage system I went with large, high efficiency speakers paired with 100 watt amps so the amps would loaf along at normal levels. OMA has a new turntable coming, btw.
I like this guy, very smart and easy to follow his logic.
He's like me, just keeps explaining his passion and why it works .
I definitely wanna hear about his designs with turntables. This stuff is dope
Probably wouldn't be buying this type of gear even IF had the money to spend.... but I absolutely love to see and learn about it. I could watch hours of this!
Yes, yes, you are very used to the expensive ugly box. It's too late for ya.
Yeah, with that level of funding I could buy some drones and start a war somewhere.
I love this, bring more Jonathan
This is quite simply outstanding
I vote for a series!
I would absolutely love to hear his full audio solution.
Wow such a great way to do it, wish he did indeed do another one.after a lot of study one ends up here
What I have learnt by building my own hornspeakers is that really good engineering is always simple, thus beautiful.
Bring on more, why not? It's at least free for us to watch. Like reading car magazines about crazy expensive cars while we drive Hondas and Toyotas.
Very interested to hear more from this guy! Very cool stuff
Sounds like a bunch of wing-ding to me.
You are absolutely right, I have done electronics engineering whole my life, I am 59 years old and learn a lot trough my life, this is just another cork sniffer
One day this guy will learn what a quadratic diffusor is......
There are a few of his personal ideas in there that won't appeal to the text bookers, but the ideas are worth the exploration, I'm happy he explored without boundaries because to me all audiophile explore based on personal biases reinforced with theoretical knowledge. He may have explained some aspects from a position of lesser knowledge but the concept of the idea is still worth the appreciation.
Usually, when Steve interviews someone there is a lot of back and forth discussion and you can tell he really enjoys the interaction. This guy can't stop blowing his horn long enough to engage in any actual discussion. It's just him telling us how it is, and you can see what a gentleman Steve is by the way he responds.
@@mosespray4510 I 100% agree with you.. Steve tries to jump in a few times and eventually just gives up and lets him talk.. This guy is full of himself and believes he's a genius
Thoroughly enjoyed this Steve other worldly please do more and if possible a review of how you found the sound personally.
I enjoyed the interview. It's cool to see what the 1% can afford, beautiful designs.
I absolutely love the look of all that hardware. And the biggest speakers are far larger than I thought, from seeing only photos! Would be interested to hear that system in the best room for it.
Yes, a second one with this gentleman.
Happy New Year Steve. I would like for you to do more on OMA. Hope to see some in the future.
I look forword for the turntable discusion! verry interesting interview
gorgeous looking gear
would love to hear🌸
love this guy's passion. I'd work for him anyday
Totally bonkers, totally fascinating
Great video! Like to hear about the turntables. 👍
Love to see a video of his comparison between the turntables. Also, a break down of his amps and the tubes he uses.
12:42 “there’s a lot of schmucks in this world”, I simply love this guy's direct and lucid honesty!
part 2 please, thanks steve!
Amazing stuff and beautiful too, very much my kind of thing. I would love to hear some playing, I don't think I have ever heard a horn speaker.
This man has clear vision and knows his stuff..
The term art is an insult to him and I can see why.
Aspirational system. I have been waiting for this video. Thank you.
Oswalds Mill Audio I see does a Heil Air Motion speaker. Wow! Love this channel.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I WATCH! WHERE ELSE, THANKS!
Always great to see originality and a person with passion for what he does. I would love to hear some of his gear. Not very mover friendly items. 200 lbs amps and 500 lb speakers. That's some heavy stuff.
How refreshing - I think he's right in that the equipment is definitely eye-catching and looks amazing. I would love to hear what they all sound like as I have not seen anything remotely resembling some of these items in this video. I REALLy like what je done with the Technics deck and I have always thought idler-drives (I'm a Garrard fan) have a start-stop poignancy which has few equals out there in the modern hifi world. Would I like to see more....? Yes please!
Brilliant. Like an endless supply of your finest wine or whiskey. You place the stylus on the vinyl, and off you go.
Of course, this stuff is outrageously expensive, and the marketing babble is almost laughably twee, but I’D LOVE TO HEAR IT! Thanks, Steve! 🔥
High efficiency always rules. Great interview.
More please, perfect for youtube.
"Our customers are not audiophiles" says it all really.
Do viewers want to know? We certainly do! More from this guy please.
Intresting ideal.
Speakers that sound good and look good.
That’s real craftsmanship.
I’m not sure about the speakers because I love my traditional boxes but their Amplifier
philosophy seems interesting.
Another entertaining video Steve.
Cheers 😎
Yup, I love it!
Art most certainly has a function.
Agreed wholeheartedly, and thank you.
He has to be the most interesting man in high end audio
Next time I’m in Delaware, I’ll plan a trip to his shop
I suspect the original video of this interview had the f word @ 7:30, which Steve has (almost) seamlessly removed. The horn speakers must have incredible sensitivity to be driven by amps with so few watts. Jonathan Weiss is an interesting guy and Oswalds Mill clearly manufactures interesting kit 👏👏
On my bucket list to listen! I like many elements of his design philosophy but proof in pudding! I love low power SETs on horns and open baffles so all his stuff is right up my alley. How does one get a demo?!
Yes! I want to hear more!!
Yes, please add another video on Turntable design. OMA speakers and amps are heavy. What is the reliability factor? How do you move the audio in the listening room and if one ever needs a repair, how do you send back to the factory? Great video! Love the Design!
Great video, Steve. Would appreciate the suggested follow-up on idler and DD TTs.
That turntable looks downright delicious.
Good story there, makes sense, and looks great, but why don't we get a glimpse of what it sounds like? Please do a session soon. Love this channel!!
I have sat in that room, heard the most life-like reproduction of music i could have imagined. He played Coltrane-Blue Train, amazing.
He uses field-coils to drive the horns on (all, some?) of his speakers, this has a huge effect on the sound.
If I had the money, and space, I would buy an OMA system and never look back.
Since OMA as a company is so obsessive, the time-alignment, cross-over and interaction the amps makes for a very coherent sound.
JW can be a politicizing figure, but his heart is in the right place and he is not selling BS.
Would you be so kind as to give a larger description of your experience. Thanks in advance.
C R Thanks!
Wow, these products are inspiring! I love the pervasive use of real wood - i'm tired of the ever present brushed aluminium fronts on amps.
wow bet it does sound amazing lets hear the turntables
I FUCKING LOVE THIS GUY OH MY GOD THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO
More please!!!!!!
Loved this. No compromise HiFi. "My way or the highway" attitude.
Thanks to Jonathan Weiss, for the open and forthcoming discussion, on that fascinating looking gear he's building. I'd like to know more about it. It would be a treat to hear it play, but as you mentioned previously, Steve, yt audio demos are a non starter. It's certainly visually unusual and attractive.
These pieces certainly make a visual statement.Very high sensitivity (Loud)speakers there.A very retro/industrial feel .Quite different from the mainstream.