@@wedrivebynight Sad to say that expecting people to have half a brain nowa days is asking to much. But, of course coil overs are superior in every way
If you buy springs and a set of shocks/struts that are meant to work with lowering springs you'll be 90% of what a coil over can do and save yourself a bunch of money. If you are tracking your car or are need to make ride height adjustments then coils are the way to go. For street use only coil overs are really overkill.
If you get lowering springs for a used car go ahead and get new shocks and struts. At that price you can get coils. Springs on stock shocks is terrible for street use. I am speaking from personal experience
@@slickvq Came here to say the exact same thing. You can get a good spring shock combo for less than $1,000. Coilovers at that price point are going to be junk.
Springs are for daily driving, coilovers are for track days. I’ve had both, coilovers are very stiff and bumpy, also very clunky/noisy as well. Where as the springs made it look good, hug the road a bit better and felt no difference in ride comfort/noise level.
As someone who had springs but now runs coilovers. Lowering springs suck. They have no adjustment, and almost no gains apart from looks. I now have k sport coilovers and I’m never going back to springs again. Do it right the first time and buy proper coilovers instead of wasting money on springs like I did.
@@meniss7284 springs ride the similar to stock. But in my experience the lack of adjustment, and the lack of any good handling characteristics from springs. I’ll take a 10% firmer ride than stock for the perfect dialed in set up interms of ride height and lesser body roll.
@@bigsoup6240 bruhh i just bought d2 springs for my accord coupe. dont wanna spend that much on coils since i dont wanna slam my car all the way since the streets here suck but would you say they're really that bad? i mostly just want them for the aesthetic look i dont care about the feel
Accair suspension is the crem de la crem homie. Following are genuinely any of the KW Self Leveling kits. Take it from someone who has had everything from lowering springs, to coils, to bags.
It all depends on what you want and need. I love the way a set of HR springs with good shocks feels. But I also really like being able to adjust my ride height and potentially a bunch of other stuff. But you aren’t going to get anything good with coil overs for less than $1300
I have eibach pro kit with their struts and shocks, and as a 58 year old hot rodder…. I don’t know, over bumps and bumpy roads and imperfection in the road my car rides like a low rider not almost like stock . Someone please help I just wanna lower my Car 1.4 inches front and back with stock ride with no one lying to me about the Springs like Eibach saying you’ll get a stock ride . It’s got to be something that can lower your car 1 inches too 2 1/2 and still get a stock ride!!! I actually had my Acura legend luxury car, Lowered 3 inches about 20 years ago and then he was clamped which I did not know until I changed my tires out but they were riding better than eibach and that sad 3 inch drop compared to 1.1 front & 1.3 back eibach pro kit pretty sad
So premature wear on stock shocks is better than fully adjustable shock and springs meant to work together? Bro there cheaper for a reason, not better.
The last owner of my car cut the original springs and i dont trust it. Id like to get coils but coils are worth morr than the car… I got lowering springs.
Cheapest best bang for your buck equivalent if not better as a coil over system for BMW’s are any B16 Bilstein kit and up. If you want equivalent to factory ride and comfort this is the bare bottom. If you want better than factory try any of the high end KW Clubsport Kits but they’ll set you back like $6 to $8k depending on what you get with them. The best you can do comfort wise and practicality for a daily driver imo is a solid Accuair suspension. No problem anywhere or on any terrain. You simply lower it and raise it when you need it. People slander air bags but it’s not about performance on streets. It’s about comfort, you’re literally riding on “air pillows”. Sincerely, An e36 and e30 owner.
Been looking into some but I don’t got the honest budget but I think I’m firm I want coilovers I was looking at raceland coilovers for my Genesis coupe but I’ve seen so many mixed reviews but any other coilovers is extreme in price
I'm on lowering springs. I got them installed with brand new rear shocks and on front struts It was a little cheaper that way because a cheap set of coilovers for my car is the same price as air ride 💀
I literally said this like 5 minutes ago after losing my shit trying to get the preload right on my coilovers😑 I’m going straight back to stock on lowering springs when this shit breaks…
My ole shocks is 1 -leaking 2- not shockelating 3- ugly’ n ’rusty 4- biiig New Is waay Better at handeling corners Don’t leak Have ajustable dampening Ajustable camber More compact for them thicc tyres Height ajustable -Lowrider to offroader in an hour and without costing on another set of springs just to change the height. Soo new coilovers every day, over lowering springs.
I've had both, lowering springs do not handle anything close to coilovers, even with sport shocks. And depending on which coilovers you compare them too, they often ride worse, in my experience with lowering springs it was either bouncy because of stiff spring with soft shock, or very stiff because you're at the end of the shock's stroke. While there are many comfort oriented coils. The only ways I'd get lowering springs ever again is either a very mild kit like eibach prokit which is great to be basically OEM+ on modern cars and shouldn't fuck with the ride and handling too bad. Or you have the options of matched sets like HR cup kits or using shocks like the koni adjustable so you can have a shock that actually works with your spring and not against it. My e36 was down right dangerous on lowering springs, despite having sport shocks supposedly made for lowering springs, they have way too little rebound and it would skip and loose grip on weight transfers and things like that because the shock couldn't keep up with the spring.
If you're new to cars, get coilovers. I don't know, how low I can go befor I'll scrape on ramp. Also I wanted upgraded shocks and harder suspension for trackdays. So I went for quality coilovers. No MaxPeePeePods!
Sorry, every BMW i've owned I ran H&R springs and Bilstein set up. And thats bull, a proper coilover set with adjustable camber/toe, not the cheap shit is night and day comparison especially if you do track days. Stop
If anybody tells you lowering springs are better than coilovers they were dropped as a child
Lowering springs are better.. in less capable, knowledgable hands.
Try and get a moron to set coil overs correctly 😂
@@LRS7B coilovers are not difficult to adjust. There's plenty of information on it that anyone with half a brain could do it.
@@wedrivebynight Sad to say that expecting people to have half a brain nowa days is asking to much. But, of course coil overs are superior in every way
@@LRS7B you're not wrong
Coilovers are just better on old shitbox
If you buy springs and a set of shocks/struts that are meant to work with lowering springs you'll be 90% of what a coil over can do and save yourself a bunch of money. If you are tracking your car or are need to make ride height adjustments then coils are the way to go.
For street use only coil overs are really overkill.
Couldn’t have said it any better myself 👍🏽
If you get lowering springs for a used car go ahead and get new shocks and struts. At that price you can get coils. Springs on stock shocks is terrible for street use. I am speaking from personal experience
@@malcolmn.5222 at that price you can get coil overs but they’ll be cheap and ride worse
@@slickvq Came here to say the exact same thing. You can get a good spring shock combo for less than $1,000. Coilovers at that price point are going to be junk.
@@brandons9138 so youre telling me that bc racing coilovers are junk
Springs are for daily driving, coilovers are for track days.
I’ve had both, coilovers are very stiff and bumpy, also very clunky/noisy as well. Where as the springs made it look good, hug the road a bit better and felt no difference in ride comfort/noise level.
Im only more convinced coilovers are better now lol
2010 Toyota Corolla I got manzo racing lowering springs been on them for about 2 years now A1 🤝
I got a set of bmr spring lowered an 1’ 1/4 on my Camaro SS i am more planted and no more body roll and still have the comfort on the stock struts
I can even with coils the car will still roll it’s a boat
I got the koni yellow adjustable shocks w/ H&R sports springs, very capable for tracking, and street driving on soft setting.👍
had the same exact setup on my Mini S! felt and worked great!
Did you need a camber kit? I’ve heard something about that but not sure
As someone who had springs but now runs coilovers.
Lowering springs suck. They have no adjustment, and almost no gains apart from looks. I now have k sport coilovers and I’m never going back to springs again. Do it right the first time and buy proper coilovers instead of wasting money on springs like I did.
what springs did you have
would you say the ride is worse though?
@@pesochrisss had d2 springs (2inch drop)
@@meniss7284 springs ride the similar to stock. But in my experience the lack of adjustment, and the lack of any good handling characteristics from springs. I’ll take a 10% firmer ride than stock for the perfect dialed in set up interms of ride height and lesser body roll.
@@bigsoup6240 bruhh i just bought d2 springs for my accord coupe. dont wanna spend that much on coils since i dont wanna slam my car all the way since the streets here suck but would you say they're really that bad? i mostly just want them for the aesthetic look i dont care about the feel
Accair suspension is the crem de la crem homie. Following are genuinely any of the KW Self Leveling kits. Take it from someone who has had everything from lowering springs, to coils, to bags.
I switched to coilovers for the adjustable dampers if I could find that on a normal slightly shorter strut I wouldn't run coilovers
It all depends on what you want and need.
I love the way a set of HR springs with good shocks feels.
But I also really like being able to adjust my ride height and potentially a bunch of other stuff.
But you aren’t going to get anything good with coil overs for less than $1300
Just brought a set of viking bezerker gp valving coilovers for my gbody cutlass ...😊
I have eibach pro kit with their struts and shocks, and as a 58 year old hot rodder…. I don’t know, over bumps and bumpy roads and imperfection in the road my car rides like a low rider not almost like stock . Someone please help I just wanna lower my Car 1.4 inches front and back with stock ride with no one lying to me about the Springs like Eibach saying you’ll get a stock ride . It’s got to be something that can lower your car 1 inches too 2 1/2 and still get a stock ride!!! I actually had my Acura legend luxury car, Lowered 3 inches about 20 years ago and then he was clamped which I did not know until I changed my tires out but they were riding better than eibach and that sad 3 inch drop compared to 1.1 front & 1.3 back eibach pro kit pretty sad
So premature wear on stock shocks is better than fully adjustable shock and springs meant to work together? Bro there cheaper for a reason, not better.
The last owner of my car cut the original springs and i dont trust it. Id like to get coils but coils are worth morr than the car… I got lowering springs.
have you noticed any excessive wear on your struts? im worried about my stock struts going out if i run lowering springs
Cheapest best bang for your buck equivalent if not better as a coil over system for BMW’s are any B16 Bilstein kit and up. If you want equivalent to factory ride and comfort this is the bare bottom. If you want better than factory try any of the high end KW Clubsport Kits but they’ll set you back like $6 to $8k depending on what you get with them. The best you can do comfort wise and practicality for a daily driver imo is a solid Accuair suspension. No problem anywhere or on any terrain. You simply lower it and raise it when you need it. People slander air bags but it’s not about performance on streets. It’s about comfort, you’re literally riding on “air pillows”.
Sincerely,
An e36 and e30 owner.
Bro just found the gravity coil under the pillow 💀
Lowering springs and good shock absorbers
Was gonna get some annex suspension coils but went with s3suspension instead for my Miata
Been looking into some but I don’t got the honest budget but I think I’m firm I want coilovers I was looking at raceland coilovers for my Genesis coupe but I’ve seen so many mixed reviews but any other coilovers is extreme in price
I'm on lowering springs. I got them installed with brand new rear shocks and on front struts
It was a little cheaper that way because a cheap set of coilovers for my car is the same price as air ride 💀
You managed to talk about coilovers more than you did about lowering springs
I literally said this like 5 minutes ago after losing my shit trying to get the preload right on my coilovers😑 I’m going straight back to stock on lowering springs when this shit breaks…
Being dirt nasty low is great! Until it’s not. Currently considering downgrading to lowering coils 😪
My ole shocks is
1 -leaking
2- not shockelating
3- ugly’ n ’rusty
4- biiig
New
Is waay Better at handeling corners
Don’t leak
Have ajustable dampening
Ajustable camber
More compact for them thicc tyres
Height ajustable -Lowrider to offroader in an hour and without costing on another set of springs just to change the height.
Soo new coilovers every day, over lowering springs.
Will these fit on my 95' 3500 gm?
I wouldnt say they are better because it just depends on your build
I just got a set of k-sport coilovers 😄😄🤙
Where you bought it?
I got a couple of those in my mattress👨🔧
I've had both, lowering springs do not handle anything close to coilovers, even with sport shocks.
And depending on which coilovers you compare them too, they often ride worse, in my experience with lowering springs it was either bouncy because of stiff spring with soft shock, or very stiff because you're at the end of the shock's stroke. While there are many comfort oriented coils.
The only ways I'd get lowering springs ever again is either a very mild kit like eibach prokit which is great to be basically OEM+ on modern cars and shouldn't fuck with the ride and handling too bad. Or you have the options of matched sets like HR cup kits or using shocks like the koni adjustable so you can have a shock that actually works with your spring and not against it.
My e36 was down right dangerous on lowering springs, despite having sport shocks supposedly made for lowering springs, they have way too little rebound and it would skip and loose grip on weight transfers and things like that because the shock couldn't keep up with the spring.
Nice you just convinced me to buy coilovers...
Didn’t convince me if anything you convinced me to spend the extra money to get coilovers
i got coils on both of my cars too lol the point is it depends on the persons needs and goals with their car
Ground control?
Coilovers all day every day 👌🏾
Not if you’ve got an LS400 lol, they stopped making them a while ago
Lowering springs are definitely not better than coilovers. Except if you buy the cheapest of the cheapest coilovers, they suck
I just installed coilovers bout 2 weeks ago and I k ow I'm getting rid of them, I will go with lowering springs cuz the coilovers are hard asf
You could be related to Lecrae!
I rather pay $550 for rev9’s than $250 for springs that will only last a year or less
where's the blaccent dude?
I bet I can get lower with my coilovers tho for the same amount of work in most cars
coils on my maxi are way better then springs ngl cause springs don’t get u where u need to be
He ended up just saying how coils are better
If you're new to cars, get coilovers. I don't know, how low I can go befor I'll scrape on ramp. Also I wanted upgraded shocks and harder suspension for trackdays. So I went for quality coilovers. No MaxPeePeePods!
Sorry, every BMW i've owned I ran H&R springs and Bilstein set up. And thats bull, a proper coilover set with adjustable camber/toe, not the cheap shit is night and day comparison especially if you do track days. Stop
Im getting too old to be slamming cars on their nuts, so ill save 1000 bucks(literally) & just get some springs
yea good luck getting ur oem springs off without a tool
D2 coilovers
Put my new car back to standard so I can get under it with a jack
😍
Americans really don't understand corners, Nurburgring, handling, etc
I think you mostly did the opposite...
bros posting off why to buy coils over springs
I ride no springs
and you are using old ass shocks with them nice new springs
bouncy bouncy nice in flat corners bouncy bouncy
So basically theyre better becsuse theyre cheaper? Nah bro.
Stock is garbage, coilovers are far superrior
Lies.
No. Just no.
lol. No
Lowering springs, because $700 for just fronts is obnoxious.
Lmao its even cheaper to just cut the springs
And a horrible idea. This would cut the spring seat and will reduce the weight the springs can hold making it ride a a shibox over bumps.
Run both