A Truly DEVASTATING And UPSETTING One... | Is It IMBA Or Do I Suck?
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Tbh that single reaper hitting the third base three times saved the terran. Fear the reaper man
Hamster's editting is on point as usual today
He must be held hostage in a basement 'cause damn that's a lot of info to get together.
Harstem and Hamster were made for each other, like you don't hear Hamster's literal voice very often like we do here but he very fundamentally understands Harstem and his humour knows what to put on screen and when and together they make a fantastic end product
3 cheers for the editor!
Amazing reaper trick shot at 3:42 , after being launched into the air by the reaper grenade, the drone didn't even land before being blasted into pink mist.
MOM GET THE CAMERA
HAHAHAHA, that reaper is a Hero to his colony and the entire human race!
I like the fact that there were already 2 hydras there
16:48 Well I think terran is OP if they're capable of droning, workering and scving up all at the same time.
Zergs can do that with neural parasite.
@@LEpigeon888 evidence that zerg is imba
I wonder if what happened here was that the Zerg really thought that Terran was finished and so they didn't really focus on eco-ing up after that initial successful attack - instead kept thinking they could just finish them off with another push until they realized it was too late. Terran recovered back up to 60 scvs really quick while the zerg stayed on 45. Happens to me a lot - I often underestimate how hard it can be to finish off a Terran.
I like how they have bases right next to each other with no defense and neither player is aware of the enemy base. That is some high level StarCraft.
You may not be Renaldo, maybe not even the Renaldo of Starcraft. But you are in the top 40 in the world of a game played by hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people. You beat grandmasters with memes and jokes. I think you have quite a bit of authority on what works and doesn't in this game.
its ronaldo not renaldo ...
Or, you know, at least.... a few thousand
@@JarmamStuff but if you think how insanely high the skill bar of starcraft is right now, present harstem would poop in the head of most of the past top tier pro player in their prime, adding up the total of player that ever played the game in 12+ years, well we can easily reach the million
Renaldo hahaahahahahahahahahahahah
@@lurchgurk7824 he's saying it with harstem's accent
Hydralisk: a Zerg unit with a powerful active ability called “morph into lurkers”. Doesn’t seem to be good at anything else tho
Hydras are still really good backline support units, DPS pumping machines. But you really only ever want about 8-14 of them at any given time. They just arent meant to be the main army of a zerg in sc2 the way they were in brood war.
@@alexangel4141 if terran goes mech/air with low count or no tanks hydras are pretty good. But you obviously need the range and speed upgrade and good creep spread
@@patximartel yes, hydras do well, but if terran goes air, corruptors do what hydras do but better, and if theres no tanks or low tank count then well, roach/ravager/infester do what hydras do in that situation but better
@@patximartel for 400/200, you can get either 4 hydras, or 4 roaches and one ravager. In almost every situation against Terran ground mech, the 4 roaches one ravager are better, not to mention less investment needed in terms of upgrades.
Chad SC1 Hydra vs virgin SC2 Hydra.
press f to pay respect to Harstem that sacrifice his iq, sanity and brain cells to review our garbage plays
You're assuming Harstem had any of these at some point...
He plays protoss after all/s
@@victornunes9845 Aww did he touch you in your sensitive spot?
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I honestly wonder if they're even still sincere. It seems to me a lot of people don't send you replays because they actually think anything is imba, but because they want to watch you roast them for their worst games.
Lol I want that
Meanwhile i lose ZvT with 6 bases vs 2 bases and don't complain about it let alone send in a replay
It's a true pleasure to watch harstem slowly transform into angry coach 2 lmao
Yeah it looks like that one broke him when he started going on about soccer.
15:53 Maybe the balance complaint should have been "F2" is imba, whenever i use it it gives my opponent the edge or makes them outright win the game!
"I've been doing this for 2 years", "it's like people aren't listening"... You need to talk to winter lol
Poor Harstem, getting broken by people pooping themselves. Hang in there, buddy! ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
2 depots? Now that's an obvious tell for BC.
Absolutely brutal, yet totally warranted.
Hope you get some quality replays in the future, as this sounded like it frustrated you a lot.
It didn't feel good to watch you get legitimately annoyed, but you made me laugh with your roasts, as always.
Thank you for the video once again.
Best wishes.
17:50 Also in Solar's Rank Roulette, the Zerg player getting destroyed in Roach vs. Cyclone who got the burrow upgrade instead of speed increase...yeah that was me.
"You know, I'm something of a celebrity myself 😎"
Queens can dodge Yamato by jumping into a overlord, nydus, or by burrowing. I don’t know about the other methods but burrowing actually puts it on CD which is amazing. I think it’s totally worth the gas and hatchery time if your opponent gets Yamato. You can also pre burrow your drones. They either waste scans meaning less mules or they can’t kill anything.
Dodging Yamato with burrow feels so good
Lowko just posted a great viewer game where zerglings beat void rays… maybe the Zerg was inspired by that!
I always laugh at the viewer games, until I realize I’m still in Silver and probably do even more dumb things
Alarak still has nightmares when he thinks of that match. The Zerg jumping up and chewing on their ships.
@@Claymanation Don't fret. The stupid things you do might be less interesting.
@@colossaldonut5190 they still have lil sonha, y'know? Hahahaha
To think that instead of taking out starport tech labs, Zerg could destroy fusion lab that was researching yamato at the time with his roach ling attack... With no money and no SCVs, terran would be stuck with 2 BCs with no yamato guns for a long time.
Yeah agreed and then this gives the zerg time to get a spire
Thanks for the little cutaway segment Hamster. I saw the movement on the minimap but had no idea what was happening. Should have figured it was a typical F2.
At the end of this segment I was just wondering "Wait, didn't he idle like all his army below the ramps? What happened there?" and it took me a little to figure it out myself xD
Honestly think archons should have been in the expensive unit list moredo than voidrays. Their total resources add up the same, but archons cost gas rather than minerals and gas. And gas is so valuable
any ability that can oneshot a zergling is imba and needs a nerf. if a zergling doesn't win against a BC it is unfair.
thank you captain obvious
@@nikokiko47 so you don't know what captain obvious means
Immortals actually cost 275/100 which should technically put them in 10th position, in front of the void rays, as they have the same supply cost (4)
Archons also are up there, using 4 supply and either 250/250, 175/275 or 100/300 - costing much more total ressorces and gas than both an Immortal or a Void Ray.
Strong open with the rant against queens. Could almost say they are... IMBA?
oh god i love grumpy Hartsem , the 2 min Rant at the start got me crying! :D love it
It's always amazing how these players can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Harstem, GSL Finals game 3 and 7. You need to watch these two. Amazing games that will make you question everything you once knew.
he was hoping the anti air would be enough already and the lings were to counter the thors... but in the end this is a story of someone who thought his opponent was dead due to a lack of scouting not realising that the one who was dead was himself.
"I know that my early game was less then medioker and my response was rather bad"
This should be good lmao
At least he has a little self awareness
16 lings vs BC was just an F2 abuse. Good advise for starting players would be just to disable F2 in the menu.
That middle managers burn was 👌 Well done Mr. Harstem!
Hamster adding to the salt! Quite wholesome!
Sounds a little paradox xD
@@hamster_designs some tribe cultures (including ours) have rituals of belittling their peers to make sure they never develop pride and the process of adding "salt" is viewed as wholesome bonding by the community. ;d Next time the boy would be by our side and would say to himself - ha, this next guy really sucks! Look at him F2ing all his unites into those lurkers! I would have never done that! Yet he will. And thats the magic of it.
Never played a single game in SC2, but I absolutely love this channel, especially these IODIS videos. To save me some time, was there ever an episode, where something was IMBA? I watched so far like 15 random videos, everyone sucked there. Thanks
No, that is the point. Nothing is truly imba and there is always room for improvements.
time to install the game now
@@zhengyuni5977 i think he one time Said " If you Said (.....) Might bê imba i would agree" dont remember exactly what it was
There was one from way back, a ZvP where the protoss went for skytoss. He said that it was indeed very close to imba and very difficult to deal with, something like that.
Starcraft2 is one of man’s greatest creations when you consider how balanced it is while having three completely different races. Exquisite
23:30 I don't trust my hydras to work when I'm not watching because I don't pay them enough.
That drone at 3:45 just got sniped in the air, and you didn't even mention it :(
First time I've seen one of these videos, crazy good edits with the cards an additional info, really looking forward to watching some more! Great job!
Edit: the comparisson between Cristiano Ronaldo and you was just the cherry on top, never laughed so hard watching a sc2 replay.
I'm jealous that you have the back catalogue unseen! Check out the playlist
If you haven't watched that series yet and are about to, get your mind ready for the best comparisons in the history of keyboard-assisted tool use.
I actually laughed out loud at "Queens have infinite HP"
one thing that never sucks in those videos are hamsters edits
There is one simple thing the most lower league players tend to forget: Starcraft is about destroying structures and then units if it's winnable.
Its hard tô remember when most games GG after losing an army :l /s
I love harstem's little skits where he pretends to be other people. He does a great hamster impression at 15:53
Another reason why Infestors would be good is because of Fungal Growth, which would aid in catching the BCs before they can jump.
But I guess spelll casters just don't exist outside of mid masters.
Dude, I love your sense of humor and analogies. So glad I started playing this game, otherwise I would have never found your channel.
If you have a 20 minute game, and you don't get to hive, you may be doing it wrong. A good rule of thumb is to get spellcasters at every level: queens, infestors, and vipers.
I often skip infestors, but you need some aoe vs swarmy boyz like mass lings, marines, or zealots.
Was there ever a balance complaint in a mirror matchup? I wonder why
I had a similar thought, I don't think that would work.
If it did happen it would be confusing and weird to watch.
It'd be fun to watch though.
Dont know If It is a serious question but... You cant argue that terran is imba because It washed the ground with you when you are playing terran and could do exactly the same thing. The absolute problem is when you find yourself in a mirror match of any kind, you clean all variables and what you have left is your failure with no Space for complain
@@Leonardodeboni0406 Legitimately sound logic.
Ah I've been waiting for another IMBA, def my fav series :)
came here for an IODIS.
Learned during the first 2 minutes, that harstem seems to believe queens are imba.
guys! get on the case! Submit IODIS forms about queens!
I don't think he thinks they're broken, but due to zerg lack of reliable anti-air in the early game they're too relied upon.
They're zerg's macro mechanic. If Zerg's macro mechanic was hatchery based it would be very broken. Injects would essentially be 2 key presses for all hatcheries (select all-hatchery control group > select inject) vs 4 per 1 hatchery (camera > select queen > select inject larva > select hatchery to inject).
Zerg macro mechanic needs to be mobile for creep maintenance, so they have sufficient warning to react to an incoming attack (react race).
If you remove the queen something would need to be provided that can fill its role sufficiently as a hatchery tech anti-air.
When you mentioned the Lowko episode, I had to hold onto my table to not fall out of my chair.
"sometimes it's like you guys aren't listening"
xD
I literally watched the opening part 10 times, your videos are amazing , keep it up man
Harstem tilting on behalf of terrans. Am I dreaming? Maybe our fellow captain is a little high after Zest smashed the competition today in GSL, and finally brought a W for protoss...
Watching transfuses off creep makes me nostalgic. I was super confused as to why this guy was queen-walking without creep, but this is before that change happened.
Wild stuff to see.
Best Harstem analogy of the day was about the hydras getting smoked.
15:00 that reaper is really heavy supply
I love my 4;47 BC rush. It's not invincible but damn is it fun xD
The Voice of Hamster!
about minute 8 he has 0 workers, but at about 11:30 he surpassed the zergs worker count ^^
Well, hydralisks alone are not even cost effective vs BCs, so making hydras against BCs without any kind of support like infestor/viper is quite bad.
how the heck did this guy get to 3500mmr? he's got to be lying
Hamster the emoji's editing was Omega funny. Wp
'People will work when nobody is watching ' - you should meet my coworkers...
Love the sass, though
the fact that this man is in diamond is a testament to the imbaness of zerg, not terran. roach pushes are strong, specially in NA diamond ladder, where no one knows how to scout
was just on an IODIS marathon, could not have come at a better time.
This is why Winter has the 3 strike way of judging replays
That Queen rant had me in tears of joy. You were talking about the band, right?
How much I love when he roasts a complain at the beginning, with that sarcasm that everybody loves hahaha
The Ronaldo analogy had me dying man 🤣 it's soooo f***ing accurate.
The last time I played SC, SC2 was only a rumour, I'm now 30.
EVEN back then, I'd not have even ONCE considered throwing ling's at BCs 🤣
The only reason that would've been useful is if he's sent the ling's in AHEAD of the hydras, to "soak* the fire while the hydras drop the BCs...the problem with that strategy is ling's die just as quickly as hydras here so...yeah, silly move 🤣 definitely pooped himself and slipped 🤣
The game with the voids and hydras, happened on the opposite side of this map
to be fair the almost instant teleport on battlecruisers is lorewise extremely stupid.... protoss lived thousands of years to develop their warp technology which takes a few seconds to work and terran just invent the half second teleport wherever they want *facepalm*
and also invincible during the channeling o.o
29:30 I will suggest a different example xDDDD
you want to be good at football, you spend your whole day practicing pushup with fingertip.....xDDDD
Nice Lowko burn at the end of the video Harstem. 😂
30:00 You're definitely saying you're Ronaldo 🤣
The 2 base roach wall off is a build made by vibe for his bronze to GM. The idea is that you block the hellions especially at lower leagues where you can’t handle them as well. It’s sort of his catch all build for metal league zergs looking to get better. It’s not at all meant to stop a reaper. So this is a little dishonest. Now I want to be clear he isn’t executing the roach wall off build perfectly. Pretty sure you only get 1 gas in the main lol and you only take two more gases once your nat is basically droned and your ready to build your safety roaches plus start your +1 and roach speed (lair taken with first 100 gas).
This build provides a sharp roach timing of like 14ish roaches that kills alot of zergs but many other lower leagues players.
This vid was sent to test Harstem's patience. A massive trolling xD Great video man!
Appreciated the explanation on where the roaches went!
infestor + hydra is awesome vs air... the neuro and the swarm thing is rly strong and he has 2-2 upgrades ahead to 0-0
Queens are the only unit that shoots up before lair, which is when BC hits. I understand serral can defend this without any loss. But at lower leagues, like low masters which I’m in. I always lose several queens, a dozen drones, a dead spore with the BC just jump back then repaired.
the implicit balance complain from you, saying: "6 queens gets you to diamond". It is indeed funny.
It's even more so given you play toss
:D :D :D
Thanks for IODIS, has made my days lately!
The Ronaldo analogy made me cry... Thank for that!
Ok even when I was playing SC2 back in the day, I wouldn't use queens as tools of attacking the enemy with, I would keep them at home popping larva on my hatcheries and perhaps this was just me, but I would always try to keep my queen count equal to the amount of hatcheries (and this included micro hatcheries) so there would be one queen per hatchery.
Sick Lowko burn at the end. Had me laughing^^
*"SIIIIIUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!"*
you can start to feel harstem slowly get more and more (actually) pissed off.
stay strong man.
"But then the unthinkable happened!" Lol nice Hamster
LOL The emoji face on the queen killed me!
Personal opinion: The Zerg WAS actually the better player, but a bunch of serious misplays, which were clearly the result of nervousness and panic lost him the game.
Seriously, that part at 15:52 was most telling: He was on the verge of winning VERY hard, but then suddenly sent his entire ground army back to fend off a single reaper... Clearly a misclick that was the product of panic / nervousness.
did i miss something? Why is there no picture, or is that suppose to be a representation of the BC porting out?
This is not complaining but actually giving advice for low leagues...also a bit of rant. Worked for me should work for everyone below plat.
3.5k and he plays like a clown. Don't mind the skill but if you're seeing this and you think it's imbalanced then it's like getting cannon rushed and thinking it's broken because you don't know how to counter it. Most build orders have a key part of it though If they watch Harstem so much they should at least have a high understanding of the game unless they watch to have it in the background. He explains everything, shows everything, shows wins and losses, plays everything, talks to other pros, explains low elo, explains absolutely everything there is to know about SC2 and the core mechanics you need to learn. If you watch all his videos for at least a year and you play diligently, reviewing your vods to see what you did wrong instead of playing, saving the replay and sending it to IODIS, you would be able to climb up extremely fast. It's not about playing a lot, but about playing a lot WITH BRAIN. How many times has cheesiest man alive won with stupid strategies or beating grand master with stupid stuff. Even macro games with standard build orders can be won with just the right units and a functional pair of eyes that is paying attention to stuff like idle workers, creep, chrono boosts, control groups. Not everything is imbalanced, if it were Lambo wouldn't be so good at the game and someone like Clem wouldn't be able to drop 3 bases in 1 second while 2 armies are in your third and fifth base.
Also a good technique I used back on 2016 to learn the game when I started is that I only played VS Ai starting from the easiest then to the hardest BUT I ONLY could turn up the difficulty if I managed to beat the AI under 6 minutes. This meant perfecting my macro while trying to use advanced micro techniques at the same time. It wasn't easy but it worked, when I started beating the most difficult AI extremely early without any mistakes while feeling confident I went to play ranked as soon as I could and won everything except my last game where I got cannon rushed which I didn't know how to beat then. I used to watch a fuck ton of Lowko and someone called Dragon I think it was back then. I learned so much about the game it became easy to rank up past gold then I stopped playing the game for Rainbow Six and Overwatch. I started again when I discovered Harstem and it's the same story all over again. Now I don't play as much but low elo is not hard. Some people play worse than the hardest AI and also having a custom game with 2 hardest AI helps a ton I almost forgot to mention that. For beginners and people trying to perfect the build order this is it. Not spamming games and complaining, build your foundations first, learn about the game, if you're so keen into playing it so much that you complain online then this is nothing if you really want to climb.
Starcraft is a game of player vs player, you have complete control of everything that happens, if you lose it's your fault, it's as easy as that. If you were playing team games it's understandable, you would have to be so good to win more but in this case I don't understand, are the iodis submitters not thinking? Do they not watch all of harstems videos before claiming they're "a big viewer" and sending IODIS? Do they not pay attention to their vods? Are they uncapable of making reasonable decisions with a bit of brain behind them like not go lings against BCs? I've learned so much from watching these videos in the last year and a half that I'm still shocked when I see people on 3.5k mmr making these bronze mistakes. Of course I know not everyone has time to play a lot or watch a ton of videos but if you're submitting to iodis or rank roulette you CLEARLY watch videos and play enough to complain about the game's balance, if you're still bronze/silver/plat and you complain about the game's balance which means you're not having FUN which is the most important part of it all, then I think it's time to stop playing the game and switch to Minecraft vanilla for a while to calm down. Not on hard mode though or else you will think Skeletons are broken and imba and you'll send a message to Bill Gates asking for a fix.
In the end just have fun, think while playing and review your mistakes as hard as you can. Don't play just for the sake of it. It will not help your mental state. Believe me I used to play League of Legends haha
Most people probably don't truly believe something is imba but just want to see their replays roasted by harstem
Harsh dump on Loko there at the end. :-D
The solo reaper bit gave me a good laugh
I can feel Harstems genuine frustration here.
Hydras are my favorite unit, have been since SC1. Even so, I would never go hydras to answer battlecruisers
This is my favourite type of IODIS! =)
Lings against Battlecruisers! =)
I mean I am humble.
I know I am too slow and to lazy to be good at the game.
But the Lings against Battlecruisers is just funny! =)
Thank you! =)
Was that hamster talking about the F2?
I thought Harstem and Hamster were the same person due to the anagram
23:10 Wasn't there something about the calculations being off or something, for fights happening off screen ?
I'm sure I saw a video at some point with some examples of the same fights having different outcomes whether you had your focus on it or not.
Giantgrantgames with his deathless challenge run on the sc2 finale, but I don't think it applies to the multiplayer
@@ward648 That's right, that's the thing. Thank you for reminding me, and you are probably right about it not applying to multiplayer.
@@FogToo i think it does apply to multiplayer (i believe its omission frames, which is literally just frames ommited in order to render stuff offscreen in a less resource intensive manner) but the margins for it are tiny, only resulting in a couple of SCVs dieing when the position in under assualt by the largest offensive force in SC2, not 9 hydras shooting a factory.
The guy should have got a spire as soon as he saw the fission core/bc's
I just noticed that the camera image is mirrored ... or Harstem has his heart on the wrong side.
"i need to go to meditative state for the next 4 days" ahahahaaha GREAT
11:00 wait... Terran jumped out with the first two BCs, a second later he jumps back in with two BCs, one of which is slightly damaged, the other full health. How is this possible with only three BC? What did just happen?!
ooh, lool he just jumped like 3 feet with that second BC at the same time as the third jumped there. It seemed weird as it disappeared completely for a second before appearing again.
I love the casual Harstem = Cristiano Ronaldo equality :P (29:28)
Though I must say it's probably a bit unfair...
Harstem is clearly superior to CR7, the comparison is too far fetched (or at the very least I enjoy watching Kevin de Koning a ton more :) )