You are doing an excellent job providing quality information on all these guns. It is nice that you show such a wide selection of airguns at varying price points. I would enjoy seeing some ballistic demonstrations comparing different guns. Perhaps where you shoot clay at different distances with different pellets
Nice review. I did the same thing with a Gamo swarm fox. Paid $100 for it on sale. Swapped out the spring and piston seal for a gas piston and full faced seal. The rifle was super accurate to begin with but now its super smooth to shoot. I average 730 fps with crosman 14.3 hollows. So yup tuning a gun makes a huge difference!!👍👍
Great review. My brother has the original Diana 350 T06 with the iron sights and checkered wood stock. Great rifle, but even that one didn't shine until he swapped the spring for a Vortek kit and used JSB 16 gr pellets. I'd say that Ruger is quite a value considering.
Truly a good video of seemingly a totally badass break-barrel airrifle. Thanks for the video! Never been much into these springers - but your videos of them do get you to want another one. Only own one, and that is in .177 only.
Bror....Hope all is well with you and the family!! This rifle is actually one of my favorites. I am thinking about purchasing a .25 caliber, by Xisico, XS28, and feature that one as well. This is one of the best kept secrets. Easy cocking, Magnum power, and a low price point. Not to mention "Accurate!"
I enjoyed your video. I love bang for buck finds. I have a ruger air magnum as well and was a little disappointed with accuracy out of the box. I opened it up and found a number of little metal curlies in-bedded in the seal. I cleaned the sleeve and put a new seal on and the numbers smoothed right out. Mine seems to like 14-16 grain pellets best. It does well with destroyers and the gamo red tipped ones. The best I've tried are the H&N sport FTT. With good pellets it is capable of 1"- 1 1/4" groups at 40 yds. ps I also upgraded the scope.
Omg 😱 God, what a great job you do in your videos, really incredible the way you give the details one by one, thank you very much for your work after looking for many options, including the Gamo Magnum, I think that thanks to this video I am ready for my next purchase, once again thank you and greetings from Mexico brother...!!!
Loved your presentation on this rifle. You're always so through and understandable. I wonder how the Ruger Magnum compares to the Gamo 10X gen 2 Magnum. I like to see you do a comparison on these two rifles. Keep up the good work, your channel is one of the best if not thee best air gun channel out there. By the way, I bought one of your bi pods for my rifle a while back and it's awesome.
Hi Harold. I appreciate you taking the time to leave me those great comments. You and others like you is the reason I keep doing this. This is a retirement hobby. I sell a few things which maintains the expense of keeping the channel going. You can compare the two by just watching each video. The advantage to the G2 is the magazine, the Ruger is a smoother shooter, less recoil but this was also upgraded with the PG2 kit. They are both great rifles. Thank you for your support and I am glad you are enjoying the Bipod kit👍😉
Hi. What a great riffle, regular power and accuracy, love it! Thanks for this great review, your channel simply my favourite!! Cheers from France. 😉👏👏👏
Good review of a project gun if one can get it for under $100 and specifically in .22. This gun in .177 and .25 is not worth the money and effort of tuning - the stock is made of cheap thin and hollow plastic and the fit to the platform is rustic at best. The major fault I have found with this Ruger Mag even on .22 is that it is super sensitive to the hold , that being because the platform is too heavy for the cheap stock. Another problem is droop , one has to find a good scope and mounts to deal with this problem. The fact that you have a bipod mounted on it an that it shoots well is exceptionally lucky. My gun shoots reasonably well in 22 but it has to be from a rest position on a good sandbag - as for shooting it off hand for hunting it’s a nightmare - too big , too long and too heavy. The trigger as you well say is clone / copy of the Diana TO5 but it hurts to even mention Diana in the same sentence with this gun. I would advise anyone that is not accustomed to tuning springer air rifles to steer away from this gun , it is a puzzle of a project gun and you don’t want to spend more on the icing than on the cake. The B28 in 22 with its wood stock is much better gun , never as good as the Diana 350 mag 22 but it will do the job well at 20 to forty yard ranges. If you happen to buy a Ruger Mag in 177 don’t waste good money and time on it , use it as a fence post- MHO. Thank you for your good video reviews.
For around $120 for a magnum break barrel it seems a little over critical. All I’m saying is if you want better accuracy magnum breakers are definitely going going to make shooting accurately little more difficult than a sub 20FPE. I just got a Hatsan 125 Vortex Camo a few days ago and it is close to 10lbs out of the box. Now my groups have been varying, but I was stacking pellets at 17yds with less than 150rds through it. I adjusted the trigger and my group consistency has improved even more, but keep in mind it takes about 500 pellets before you should judge a breaker’s accuracy. My Gamo Swarm Whisper 10x was the same way. Just terrible (I almost retuned it)... shooting all over the place, but after 400-500 shots and a $43 Pinty 3x9 (BugBuster clone) scope I can hit a quarter 4/5 times with it at 20yds. Now the Hatsan Magnums are 2-3 time the price of this Ruger and it still suffers some of the same issues you specify... very lengthy, stocks too long for good eye relief and it’s loud (no moderator with this model) probably because it’s still dieseling, but in time it will settle a little. Just understand that there will be a trade off with ease of use for magnum power in breakers. My Hatsan is averaging 28FPE and the lowest I Chrony’d it with any pellet was 27FPE. I just put a UTG (no clone this time) 3x9-40 IR True Hunter scope and I only put maybe 20-30 through her today and she’s shooting all over. Some is user error and some is it just isn’t broken in yet and most importantly I’m not used to it yet. You think you got it sited and then it jumps all over again. But until I put at least 400-500 through the barrel (I’m aware Hatsan is known to have some QC issues) I won’t blame the gun just yet. Just understand, Magnums are very hard on scopes and shooters alike with the power they produce and require to cock. If after 500rds it’s still not grouping then it could be the gun and I would contact the manufacturer. I almost did with my Gamo but now it shoots like a dream for a 16FPE breaker with a 10 shot mag. This is just my experience but YMMV. Don’t give up and remember practice makes perfect.
I got the Impact Max. Wood stock. Gas piston. Other than gas piston, it's the same. Mine works great, shoots well, accurate. Has a little punch on your shoulder, but it's fine. For around 100 bux, cant beat it.
I really want this gun but the airgun shops don't have it here where I live. Great video by the way, I love the consistency and accuracy that your tuning has done to that gun.💯💯
I really like what you did to replace the front sight. I know it takes away iron sight capability and forces you to go to scopes but it really looks impressive. I have this rifle in .177 and the scope that came with it was destroyed by the recoil of this powerful springer. I never replaced it and just used the sights that came with it. I would really like to get that same look for my ruger magnum if you can help me out with some info of how to get the muzzle attachment and any installation advice you might have.
Unfortunately, the company that made these muzzle-breaks no longer produces them. I appreciate you tuning in and if I come across any in the future I'll share it on future video. 👍
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It's really easy to make your own out of PVC. Get a 1/2 pipe and plug. Drill a hole in the plug slightly smaller than the barrel, heat it in boiling water, press it on the barrel and attach the pipe. Drill holes and paint to suit. ❤
Well as always a great informative review! I was curious as to the reason why you honed the cylinder, are they not smooth to start with? Anyways, I'm always excited to see my notification go off letting me know there's another airgun detective review, please keep up the great work!
Honning is part of the process to make sure there are no burrs or sharp edges especially when you are replacing the piston seal. When the rifles are mass produced often the little details are overlooked, especially on the less expensive rifles. So a good tune should include the honning of the piston chamber. Thanks again for tuning in👍
Great review. I just bought one and want to upgrade the internals with a tune kit. Would a Diana 350 PG2 kit work with this rifle? Thanks and keep up the good work.
Hello, before this test you changed the seal of the barrel, that is, where the pellet is inserted, since it comes from the factory somewhat low or loose... or is it just as it comes out of the box.
When this is tuned up it is quite the shooter. Check out the XS28. Same rifle but a much nicer stock. My buddy Mike at Flying Dragons is offering 2 barrels (.177/.22) with this model. He'll even tune them if you like. One heck of a deal!😉👍
Hi from Costa Rica again In advance thanks a lot for your comments and advice Recently Ekol spring air rifles had been introduced in Costa Rica…my question is if this rifles are of good quality??? Never heard of them, turkish !!!😮
I have not shot them but they look like a KRAL or even similar to the Hatsan. They look to have the basic metal trigger that was popular in many breakbarrels. Those triggers can be modified or replaced with a GRTIII. Probably worth testing it out...
Great job again like the other gentlemen said, it would be nice to see some tuning from you. I would trust your method very much I've been watching you for quite some time.
Henry, that is a difficult task for breakbarrel rifles. There is not a scope made that I haven't eventually destroyed. The BSA Outlook series for Airguns is ok...under $100 and has a 1 year warranty. I have destroyed a couple of them, but the warranty process was easy. I am working on a new project that my completely change the game when it comes to scope mounting on breakbarrel air rifles. Still in the testing phase...😉
I uses gamo red fire pellets in mine an pep are telling me they are get em 50 I don't belive it they said at wal.mart 200 I gave 100 4 mine What kind pellets u uses
Just bought one today, I like the things you have done to yours. Do you have a list somewhere of what you have done and the parts used? Do you know where I could go to have them done? Do you do that? Cheers, Brent
Hi bro, I live in Costa Rica I just whated to know … I have two Hatsan springers, the 135 in 0.177 and a 125 in 25 cal…I have heard that it is not posible to use glass sights ob them because of the heavy recoil they have . They both have piacatinny rails ? Please if posible you might be able to give me your advice 😮 PD: I also have a Ruger Air Magnum…I love it!!!!
@Airgundectives I can't decide between the Ruger Air Magnum .22 Springer or Hatsan MOD 125 .22 Springer. Your input would be greatly appreciated! Thanks for all your content and will be ordering your product! Stay safe out there!
I love YOU'RE channel, I bought a gamo whisper wild cat 22, $100 , can't believe how much power this thing HAS!!, I was looking for the swarm 10 x gen 2, couldn't find it!!
Good day, sir. This is a great video presentation for this rifle. It shows the reason why more should get this rifle. I wish it was available here. "good gun to great gun" indeed! Speaking of great guns, I would like to ask you a few questions. Around 2011, I bought a GAMO SOCOM TACTICAL Break Barrel in .22 cal.. Its a good gun. For some reason, GAMO phased it out. They don't manufacture it anymore. I also wonder why there are only a few reviews on it - most of which are 6 years old.. My questions: 1. How do I tune it? 2. Can I replace the spring with a gas piston? 3. If yes to no. 2, what gas piston would you recommen? Thank you Poch Del Prado Philippines
Poch...yes you can tune that rifle and you could replace the spring or possibly get a gas piston. You will have to research the net to find the parts. All as you need is a breech seal, a piston seal, the new spring or gas piston. You also need a way to compress the spring and remove it from the rifle. You will need a clamp or compression tool. You also need to be mechanically inclined. I will do a video sometime this summer.👍
@@AirgunDetectives thank you for your prompt response. I've seen the RUclips videos on diy spring compressors. But I eagerly anticipate your video. Regards
Hi, great video! Just tried the link for PG3, but it seems that it's no longer available. Looks as though they've gone to the PG4. I'm not sure on the correct one for this rifle. Any suggestions? Thanks
Looking to get a pellet gun to round out my collection...appreciate the great review! Thinking this'll be what I go with. I will say I'm surprised at the short distances everyone seems to expect out of pellet rifles. As an airsoft sniper, I'm used to hitting [human] targets at 250-300ft even with wind, so I was expecting that range to be typical for a pellet gun too.
A human target is about 50 times the cross section of the typical pellet gun target 😅. At that distance we could still hit a tennis ball, but couldn't make repeated humane takedowns. Also the small weight doesn't maintain speed for impact on target even if it's hit. That's why most people don't worry about that distance, but could still hit smaller than any airsoft I've ever seen.
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Great review as always. I was surprised to read it is a replica of the Diana 350 Magnum--do you mean relabeled or literally the action was duplicated by another maker, Umarexusa in this case? What a bargain this is--I paid 3 times the price 10 years ago (no scope included). Replaced the spring with a bigger one with plastic sleeve like you did. Definitely smoother but less powerful than yours. Get 860 fps with 14.3 Crossman Premier HP's for a little over 23fpe. Get a five shot same hole group at 25 yds. Used to like Beeman Trophy 14.7's but no more for some reason, 2-3" at 25 yds. Tried the heavier JSB Match Hades 15.89 and they flew all over, 3-4" at 25 yds!! But same fpe as the Premier HP. Currently doing iguana disposal for our condo association and all shots within 35-40 yds so accuracy is most important (dime size kill zone). Any idea whether the stock is interchangeable? Thanks again.
Hi Michael, this is basically a Chinese copy of the 350. Not rebranded but a copy and licensed through Umarex. The Xisico XS28 is the same rifle as the Ruger but it comes in a wooden stock. I ordered the .25 caliber through Flying Dragon Air Rifles and I am having Mike do the full tune. I hope to feature a review on it in the not too distant future. Thanks for watching and I appreciate you taking the time to leave some comments.
Hi JC, I finally got around to setting up my Ruger Air Magnum AKA the scope destroyer, lol! What inexpensive scope will work on this beast? I feel like I'm sending what ever scope I mount on it to the gas chamber. 😅 It's a very powerful springer and accurate too. Have your artillery hold down before attempting to shoot it though. Cocking it is like wrestling bears but I dig the power.
@@AirgunDetectives Thank You - missed that for some reason.So,how would tunnig costs? I paid around 45$ for Hatsan`s Vortex and another 50$ to a gunsmith+of course cost of a gun[I`m talking Poland]. And how this gun compare to Diana RWS 34P Pro?
I just bought one. The cheapest I could find it was $190. WORTH EVERY PENNY!!!! Thank you for the review, for future reference, where did you find one for $120??
@@AirgunDetectives Nice! So far this gun has been nothing but great. I had to take the trigger apart and realign the safety latch because it would not catch sometimes but since then everything has been perfect.
How is the noise relative to some of the other rifles you have recently tested, say Swarms? I live in the City, and I want to minimize the chance of alarming the neighbors....
Is it my imagination or my just getting a Little older, ... Air rifles seem to be getting Heavier by the year . Reminds me of carrying my battle rifle some thirty odd years ago in the African bushveld.
They are both good! With the Ruger tuned I like it much better. Basically the same power and a 20lbs lighter cocking effort. For the $ you would spend on the Gamo you could get a fully tuned version, Xisico XS28, which is the same rifle with a real wood stock, from our friend Mike at Flying 🐉. You could shoot that all day with minimum cocking effort.
@@patrioticamerican6414 you can't get the scope. It has been discontinued but Gamo now owns BSA. They offer a large variety of scopes and there basic 3-9x 40 AO air rifle scope works well and it's around $75.00
Hey brother, I'm looking for a nice 22 caliber. Break barrel 300$ max 200$ preferred What is the best , light weight, and budget friendly air rifle out right now? In your opinion? Please and thank you
This may interest you. Check this "Fully Tuned" Umarex Octane .22 cal. Puts out 24 FPE airgundetectives.com/product/gamo-swarm-magnum-22-caliber-break-barrel/
@@AirgunDetectives yes I was looking at this one. It destroys scopes though. I think I'm going to pull the trigger on a umarex Gauntlet 25, since it can be pumped up. Thanks for the reply
I have one, I bought it for rabbit hunting but just to long prefer my 392s for that. I would really like to trick it out. 1. How do you take the front site off. 2. Where did you get that muzzle break. 3. What scope are you using. I don't want to get something its going to destroy, I don't have to tell you about the recoil 😂. I know its no Sig, but its the closest I will get to it in my state. Thanks!
1) remove the set-screw and tap it off 2) They no longer produce the muzzle brake www.airrifleheadquarters.com/catalog/item/1205004/692734.htm 3) BSA Tactical Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 3-12x 44mm Side Focus Mil-Dot Reticle with a glass etched reticle. That is no longer made. 4) Happy Shooting 👍👍😉😉
Dieseling the rifle is not a good thing. It gives you an inconsistent high velocity as a result of an explosion in the compression chamber. That is hard on the piston seal and eventually damages the rifle. So you want to avoid dieseling to keep a natural steady velocity which then provides good accuracy. Thank you for tuning in 😉👍
Sweet! You are a Maestro! I never thought that a Springer could give that kind of accuracy. Out of curiosity, where do you get your skill working on airguns? Are you retired military or LEO? ARMORER? Engineer? Or just enthusiast? What do you do with all the used guns you have after the reviews? Are you a collector and keep them or do you ever sell them? I would be interested in buying something that you're done with after you've tuned it!!!
Retired LEO last year. This is my personal collection I have built up over the years. I have always been mechanically inclined. I will be parting with some of these in the future, I am running out of storage space. Although, some, I just can't part with. I may post a few on my website in the future. I appreciate the comments and thanks for watching. 👍
@@AirgunDetectives Retired LEO? Thank you for your service.👍 Detective, or SWAT? Should've guessed. What about airgun competition? How long have you been airgunning? Do you hunt with airguns? If so, what is your main caliber when you hunt? Can you recommend any place that is airgun friendly for hunting?
@@kenfan5666 I retired as a Detective Sergeant, 30 years on the dept.. No airgun competition but a lot of formal firearms training over the years. I don't do much hunting anymore, in fact it has been years. Wild boar was the last. But I used a 30-06 for that. I wasn't fond of the taste. I am more interested in target shooting and plinking. I have been shooting airguns since I was a kid. I got serious about it and back into it about 10 years ago. Now you know where the "Airgun Detectives" comes from. 😉
@@AirgunDetectives JC, thanks for indulging me and all my questions. Actually, I just found out about the detective part a few minutes before your reply. I have binged on your videos for the last few days and have watched nearly all of your videos except maybe a dozen. So last night I decided to watch from the beginning. Before you start selling your collection on line, please let me know what you want to sell. I might be interested. Me and my family are moving back to the States after Malaysia gets over the lockdown and the US is safe to return to. I haven't hunted in about ten years, if you don't count rat pesting. My last hunting trip was unsuccessful. I spent four days stalking,and it rained the whole time. The last day, as I was packing up, I saw a ten or twelve point in the open as the sun was going down. I had already put away my bow and arrows, and they were in the cab of my truck behind the rest of my gear. I had one boot on and I was about two hundred yards away. Oh well. C'est la vie. I have been planning on teaching my kids to hunt and stalk, mostly just showing them signs of traffic along paths, how they can find different game, and their habitats, and have spent some time with them doing some trigger discipline and target practice with NERF guns. Here in Malaysia airsoft, bb guns, and pellet guns are illegal. When people ask me about "gun nuts" and the second amendment they are surprised to know I am a "gun nut." Can't wait to give my kids their own 1077s. Once they get their trigger time in I'll move them up to 1322's and 2400kt's before we go to break barrels and PCP's. Watching your videos has been a pleasure. Keep them coming! Stay safe, be well, and God bless!
@@matthewtrimmer293 Ok...I just checked with Jim, 4-5 weeks he'll have more ready to go. Make sure you tell him John with Airgun Detectives says Hi! "Apex Muzzle Weight" www.airrifleheadquarters.com
I just got one that came with the stock scope. And man that scope really is mediocre at best. It's given me great grouping at 50ft of half inch groups but the next few shots will have fliers that group around 3 inches. Will for sure look for a better scope than this one. The rifle on the other hand is by far the best for the cost. Accurate, and powerful and loves the hades Diablos
I have never seen a scope that has no adjustment to it. Are you sure about that? If no adjustment you could never site in the rifle and that does not make sense to me.
I would take the tuned Ruger...better yet visit my buddy Mike at Flying Dragon Air Rifles and have him tune a .22 caliber XS28. Same as the Ruger but a wooden stock. I did a review on the .25 XS28, But I would get the .22 caliber. Worth every penny to have him do a full tune.
If you can get a Ruger Air Magnum .22 cal for $100 maybe purchase 2 of them. You add a Vortek kit and you have an incredible rifle for under $200 total. Now if you're referring to the Gamo Wild Cat. They retail at Gamo for $139. They have good power, IGT gas piston, the downside is the trigger. Once you shoot a CAT or SAT Gamo trigger you will see the difference. So you saved $40 you can put that towards a decent scope. Thanks for watching and I appreciate you taking the time to leave comments 👍
Just randomly watching and commenting on your old vids trying to put some more bread in your pocket.
@Karson Alan ?
The dude knows airguns!
You are doing an excellent job providing quality information on all these guns. It is nice that you show such a wide selection of airguns at varying price points. I would enjoy seeing some ballistic demonstrations comparing different guns. Perhaps where you shoot clay at different distances with different pellets
I need to make some ballistic gel and we'll compare some calibers. This summer when I have more time 👍
Nice review. I did the same thing with a Gamo swarm fox. Paid $100 for it on sale. Swapped out the spring and piston seal for a gas piston and full faced seal. The rifle was super accurate to begin with but now its super smooth to shoot. I average 730 fps with crosman 14.3 hollows. So yup tuning a gun makes a huge difference!!👍👍
Will... thanks for watching and I appreciate your insight 👍
Great review. My brother has the original Diana 350 T06 with the iron sights and checkered wood stock. Great rifle, but even that one didn't shine until he swapped the spring for a Vortek kit and used JSB 16 gr pellets. I'd say that Ruger is quite a value considering.
I think the Ruger is one of the best kept secrets. I will have a .25 cal XS28 to review in the next couple of months...Stay Tuned! :)
Truly a good video of seemingly a totally badass break-barrel airrifle. Thanks for the video!
Never been much into these springers - but your videos of them do get you to want another one. Only own one, and that is in .177 only.
Bror....Hope all is well with you and the family!! This rifle is actually one of my favorites. I am thinking about purchasing a .25 caliber, by Xisico, XS28, and feature that one as well. This is one of the best kept secrets. Easy cocking, Magnum power, and a low price point. Not to mention "Accurate!"
I bought that same exact scope for my Airmax Dominator and it's still on it. Great review and video of the Ruger !!!
Amazing how well that scope holds up. Thanks for watching👍
I enjoyed your video. I love bang for buck finds. I have a ruger air magnum as well and was a little disappointed with accuracy out of the box. I opened it up and found a number of little metal curlies in-bedded in the seal. I cleaned the sleeve and put a new seal on and the numbers smoothed right out. Mine seems to like 14-16 grain pellets best. It does well with destroyers and the gamo red tipped ones. The best I've tried are the H&N sport FTT. With good pellets it is capable of 1"- 1 1/4" groups at 40 yds. ps I also upgraded the scope.
Omg 😱 God, what a great job you do in your videos, really incredible the way you give the details one by one, thank you very much for your work after looking for many options, including the Gamo Magnum, I think that thanks to this video I am ready for my next purchase, once again thank you and greetings from Mexico brother...!!!
Loved your presentation on this rifle.
You're always so through and understandable. I wonder how the Ruger Magnum compares to the Gamo 10X gen 2 Magnum. I like to see you do a comparison on these two rifles. Keep up the good work, your channel is one of the best if not thee best air gun channel out there. By the way, I bought one of your bi pods for my rifle a while back and it's awesome.
Hi Harold. I appreciate you taking the time to leave me those great comments. You and others like you is the reason I keep doing this. This is a retirement hobby. I sell a few things which maintains the expense of keeping the channel going. You can compare the two by just watching each video. The advantage to the G2 is the magazine, the Ruger is a smoother shooter, less recoil but this was also upgraded with the PG2 kit. They are both great rifles. Thank you for your support and I am glad you are enjoying the Bipod kit👍😉
@@AirgunDetectivesim going to watch it now.. I have the Ruger Air Magnum, and a Beeman Kodiak 2, but it's not over yet! 😂
another great video! It would be great to see one where you show how you tune your guns ✌🏻
Please show video of tuning or which way to turn screw to reduce pull
Wow! What a jumbo springer! I bet it can shoot slugs in 177 as well! Great tuning.
That is a .22 caliber
Thanks for watching!!!
Hi.
What a great riffle, regular power and accuracy, love it!
Thanks for this great review, your channel simply my favourite!!
Cheers from France. 😉👏👏👏
Good review of a project gun if one can get it for under $100 and specifically in .22. This gun in .177 and .25 is not worth the money and effort of tuning - the stock is made of cheap thin and hollow plastic and the fit to the platform is rustic at best. The major fault I have found with this Ruger Mag even on .22 is that it is super sensitive to the hold , that being because the platform is too heavy for the cheap stock. Another problem is droop , one has to find a good scope and mounts to deal with this problem. The fact that you have a bipod mounted on it an that it shoots well is exceptionally lucky. My gun shoots reasonably well in 22 but it has to be from a rest position on a good sandbag - as for shooting it off hand for hunting it’s a nightmare - too big , too long and too heavy. The trigger as you well say is clone / copy of the Diana TO5 but it hurts to even mention Diana in the same sentence with this gun. I would advise anyone that is not accustomed to tuning springer air rifles to steer away from this gun , it is a puzzle of a project gun and you don’t want to spend more on the icing than on the cake. The B28 in 22 with its wood stock is much better gun , never as good as the Diana 350 mag 22 but it will do the job well at 20 to forty yard ranges. If you happen to buy a Ruger Mag in 177 don’t waste good money and time on it , use it as a fence post- MHO. Thank you for your good video reviews.
For around $120 for a magnum break barrel it seems a little over critical. All I’m saying is if you want better accuracy magnum breakers are definitely going going to make shooting accurately little more difficult than a sub 20FPE. I just got a Hatsan 125 Vortex Camo a few days ago and it is close to 10lbs out of the box. Now my groups have been varying, but I was stacking pellets at 17yds with less than 150rds through it. I adjusted the trigger and my group consistency has improved even more, but keep in mind it takes about 500 pellets before you should judge a breaker’s accuracy. My Gamo Swarm Whisper 10x was the same way. Just terrible (I almost retuned it)... shooting all over the place, but after 400-500 shots and a $43 Pinty 3x9 (BugBuster clone) scope I can hit a quarter 4/5 times with it at 20yds. Now the Hatsan Magnums are 2-3 time the price of this Ruger and it still suffers some of the same issues you specify... very lengthy, stocks too long for good eye relief and it’s loud (no moderator with this model) probably because it’s still dieseling, but in time it will settle a little. Just understand that there will be a trade off with ease of use for magnum power in breakers. My Hatsan is averaging 28FPE and the lowest I Chrony’d it with any pellet was 27FPE. I just put a UTG (no clone this time) 3x9-40 IR True Hunter scope and I only put maybe 20-30 through her today and she’s shooting all over. Some is user error and some is it just isn’t broken in yet and most importantly I’m not used to it yet. You think you got it sited and then it jumps all over again. But until I put at least 400-500 through the barrel (I’m aware Hatsan is known to have some QC issues) I won’t blame the gun just yet. Just understand, Magnums are very hard on scopes and shooters alike with the power they produce and require to cock. If after 500rds it’s still not grouping then it could be the gun and I would contact the manufacturer. I almost did with my Gamo but now it shoots like a dream for a 16FPE breaker with a 10 shot mag. This is just my experience but YMMV. Don’t give up and remember practice makes perfect.
I got the Impact Max. Wood stock. Gas piston.
Other than gas piston, it's the same. Mine works great, shoots well, accurate. Has a little punch on your shoulder, but it's fine.
For around 100 bux, cant beat it.
I love what you did to that Rugar. Keep up the good work.
Gary, thanks for watching and I appreciate your comments👍
I really want this gun but the airgun shops don't have it here where I live. Great video by the way, I love the consistency and accuracy that your tuning has done to that gun.💯💯
I really like what you did to replace the front sight. I know it takes away iron sight capability and forces you to go to scopes but it really looks impressive. I have this rifle in .177 and the scope that came with it was destroyed by the recoil of this powerful springer. I never replaced it and just used the sights that came with it. I would really like to get that same look for my ruger magnum if you can help me out with some info of how to get the muzzle attachment and any installation advice you might have.
Unfortunately, the company that made these muzzle-breaks no longer produces them. I appreciate you tuning in and if I come across any in the future I'll share it on future video. 👍
Hi...my friend...I listed...that you have the 177...as mine....that I bought before one month...ago....!!!....I have some pellets...in 4.52...from...another...rifle...that...i have...(a kral 11...)...and...can you tell me if you know...can we use...4.52...mm...pellets...because...mowhere....on rifle...write...something like.....that...???...Thanks...
It's really easy to make your own out of PVC. Get a 1/2 pipe and plug. Drill a hole in the plug slightly smaller than the barrel, heat it in boiling water, press it on the barrel and attach the pipe. Drill holes and paint to suit. ❤
Really works well. Should have bought one sooner.
Well as always a great informative review! I was curious as to the reason why you honed the cylinder, are they not smooth to start with? Anyways, I'm always excited to see my notification go off letting me know there's another airgun detective review, please keep up the great work!
Honning is part of the process to make sure there are no burrs or sharp edges especially when you are replacing the piston seal. When the rifles are mass produced often the little details are overlooked, especially on the less expensive rifles. So a good tune should include the honning of the piston chamber. Thanks again for tuning in👍
Is this the same thing as the ruger impact max? If not. Please do a review for that one.
You really are working hard thank you.
Another great review-excellent review!! Thank you JC. Crazy wind....we had the same a few days ago in Michigan.
Great review. I just bought one and want to upgrade the internals with a tune kit. Would a Diana 350 PG2 kit work with this rifle? Thanks and keep up the good work.
Hello, before this test you changed the seal of the barrel, that is, where the pellet is inserted, since it comes from the factory somewhat low or loose... or is it just as it comes out of the box.
loved the video! excellent accuracy, 4 pellets in one hole at 20 yards, wow!
The accuracy is amazing especially for the power and price. Thank you for watching and I appreciate you taking time to leave comments. Stay Healthy! 👍
Have you checked out the Hattson Blitz yet? $1,000.00 but well worth the money , 30cal full auto 30 round 3000 psi
Great video I was thinking of buying one.
Thanks for watching Cory!😉
That's impressive grouping for a magnum air rifle.
When this is tuned up it is quite the shooter. Check out the XS28. Same rifle but a much nicer stock. My buddy Mike at Flying Dragons is offering 2 barrels (.177/.22) with this model. He'll even tune them if you like. One heck of a deal!😉👍
Thanks for another great video. 👍
Hi from Costa Rica again
In advance thanks a lot for your comments and advice
Recently Ekol spring air rifles had been introduced in Costa Rica…my question is if this rifles are of good quality??? Never heard of them, turkish !!!😮
I have not shot them but they look like a KRAL or even similar to the Hatsan. They look to have the basic metal trigger that was popular in many breakbarrels. Those triggers can be modified or replaced with a GRTIII. Probably worth testing it out...
@@AirgunDetectives great I really apreciate your advice !!! Regards
I got one finding the right pellet an a great scope ???
Great job again like the other gentlemen said, it would be nice to see some tuning from you. I would trust your method very much I've been watching you for quite some time.
Fabulous, great idea, I might try this.👍
how much for the muzzle break ?
What your Opinion for a great scope that will last.
Henry, that is a difficult task for breakbarrel rifles. There is not a scope made that I haven't eventually destroyed. The BSA Outlook series for Airguns is ok...under $100 and has a 1 year warranty. I have destroyed a couple of them, but the warranty process was easy. I am working on a new project that my completely change the game when it comes to scope mounting on breakbarrel air rifles. Still in the testing phase...😉
Good friend Where can I find the replacement spring for this model of rifle? From the same video the Air Magnum 5.5
Great video salut from France
Hello!! I hope all is well in France! Thanks for watching 😊
I uses gamo red fire pellets in mine an pep are telling me they are get em 50 I don't belive it they said at wal.mart 200 I gave 100 4 mine What kind pellets u uses
Good presentation ; your thoughts on the Ruger Yukon magnum 22. gas piston ?
Whetr did you purchase the muzzle brake and mm barrel does it fit?
Air Rifle Headquarters use to sell those muzzle breaks. Unfortunately they no longer produce or sell them. They identified them as, "Muzzle Weights"
Dang! Thank you!
Just bought one today, I like the things you have done to yours. Do you have a list somewhere of what you have done and the parts used? Do you know where I could go to have them done? Do you do that? Cheers, Brent
Hi bro, I live in Costa Rica
I just whated to know …
I have two Hatsan springers, the 135 in 0.177 and a 125 in 25 cal…I have heard that it is not posible to use glass sights ob them because of the heavy recoil they have . They both have piacatinny rails ?
Please if posible you might be able to give me your advice 😮
PD: I also have a Ruger Air Magnum…I love it!!!!
Wow man nice review
@Airgundectives
I can't decide between the Ruger Air Magnum .22 Springer or Hatsan MOD 125 .22 Springer. Your input would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks for all your content and will be ordering your product! Stay safe out there!
Did you remove the piston sleeve when installing the tune kit?
It's been awhile but I believe I did. 👍🏻😉
I love YOU'RE channel, I bought a gamo whisper wild cat 22, $100 , can't believe how much power this thing HAS!!, I was looking for the swarm 10 x gen 2, couldn't find it!!
Good video
Good day, sir. This is a great video presentation for this rifle. It shows the reason why more should get this rifle. I wish it was available here. "good gun to great gun" indeed! Speaking of great guns, I would like to ask you a few questions. Around 2011, I bought a GAMO SOCOM TACTICAL Break Barrel in .22 cal.. Its a good gun. For some reason, GAMO phased it out. They don't manufacture it anymore. I also wonder why there are only a few reviews on it - most of which are 6 years old.. My questions:
1. How do I tune it?
2. Can I replace the spring with a gas piston?
3. If yes to no. 2, what gas piston would you recommen?
Thank you
Poch Del Prado
Philippines
Poch...yes you can tune that rifle and you could replace the spring or possibly get a gas piston. You will have to research the net to find the parts. All as you need is a breech seal, a piston seal, the new spring or gas piston. You also need a way to compress the spring and remove it from the rifle. You will need a clamp or compression tool. You also need to be mechanically inclined. I will do a video sometime this summer.👍
@@AirgunDetectives thank you for your prompt response. I've seen the RUclips videos on diy spring compressors. But I eagerly anticipate your video. Regards
Where did you get the muzzle brake for this rifle JC? Thanks.
Air Rifle Headquarters, but the owner, Jim, I think he quit making them. They have been out of stock for a long time. Send him an email. 👍
Have you reviewed the Ruger Air Hawk .177?
Hi, great video! Just tried the link for PG3, but it seems that it's no longer available. Looks as though they've gone to the PG4. I'm not sure on the correct one for this rifle. Any suggestions? Thanks
The PG4 is just the newer version. It takes the same kit as the Diana 350 Mag.👍
@@AirgunDetectives Awesome! Thank You
Looking to get a pellet gun to round out my collection...appreciate the great review! Thinking this'll be what I go with.
I will say I'm surprised at the short distances everyone seems to expect out of pellet rifles. As an airsoft sniper, I'm used to hitting [human] targets at 250-300ft even with wind, so I was expecting that range to be typical for a pellet gun too.
A human target is about 50 times the cross section of the typical pellet gun target 😅. At that distance we could still hit a tennis ball, but couldn't make repeated humane takedowns. Also the small weight doesn't maintain speed for impact on target even if it's hit.
That's why most people don't worry about that distance, but could still hit smaller than any airsoft I've ever seen.
Do you feel the the rifle a little heavy? The specs saying 9.5 lb, may you need a sling for carrying in field? Thanks
Hi my friend....I've...watched...a lot of your videos....about airifles...and....i am a fan of you.....because you love very much... that you do.....!!!...Now I want to ask you something....if you know....can i use....4,52mm...pellets in Air scout Magnum 177....even if i puse it... little bit into the barrel.....????...Because there is nowhere....writes something like that...!!!.....I tell you that because I have bought it...in 177....and have few pellets...in 4.52mm.....as Exact... heavy....from...another...riffle....!!!...I hope you answer...me...!!!...Thanks for your... videos....!!!...I remembered...and....something else...if the difference between 177....and...22...is...ONLY....the diameter of the pellets...and all the others are the same.....as the piston spring....for example...!!!...Thanks again...
would you sell this for full MSRP + the money you put into it? never worked on anything and dont want to try my first time on my first air gun.
You didn't talk about the "Scope Rail" is that a adapter for the Dove rail? Or did it come with that picatinny rail?
I addressed that in the beginning. That's standard with the rifle. Weaver style adapter. Thanks for watching. 👍
any recommendations for which scope mount will fit on this air rifle? i cannot find one that works!!!!!!!!!
What is coming from Gamo in 2021 anything new or better?
Great review as always. I was surprised to read it is a replica of the Diana 350 Magnum--do you mean relabeled or literally the action was duplicated by another maker, Umarexusa in this case? What a bargain this is--I paid 3 times the price 10 years ago (no scope included). Replaced the spring with a bigger one with plastic sleeve like you did. Definitely smoother but less powerful than yours. Get 860 fps with 14.3 Crossman Premier HP's for a little over 23fpe. Get a five shot same hole group at 25 yds. Used to like Beeman Trophy 14.7's but no more for some reason, 2-3" at 25 yds. Tried the heavier JSB Match Hades 15.89 and they flew all over, 3-4" at 25 yds!! But same fpe as the Premier HP. Currently doing iguana disposal for our condo association and all shots within 35-40 yds so accuracy is most important (dime size kill zone). Any idea whether the stock is interchangeable? Thanks again.
Hi Michael, this is basically a Chinese copy of the 350. Not rebranded but a copy and licensed through Umarex. The Xisico XS28 is the same rifle as the Ruger but it comes in a wooden stock. I ordered the .25 caliber through Flying Dragon Air Rifles and I am having Mike do the full tune. I hope to feature a review on it in the not too distant future. Thanks for watching and I appreciate you taking the time to leave some comments.
@@AirgunDetectives Thanks for the reply. I'll be watching for the report on the XS28.
Hi JC, I finally got around to setting up my Ruger Air Magnum AKA the scope destroyer, lol! What inexpensive scope will work on this beast? I feel like I'm sending what ever scope I mount on it to the gas chamber. 😅 It's a very powerful springer and accurate too. Have your artillery hold down before attempting to shoot it though. Cocking it is like wrestling bears but I dig the power.
Hi Ed, These BSA Outlooks work quite well, they are affordable and have a 1 year warranty bit.ly/46M3agJ
@AirgunDetectives I'll give one a try. Thanks JC!
Is there a part number for the dovetail to picatinny adapter looks like a secure setup against scope creep 👍
Actually that one came with the rifle but this one should work just fine amzn.to/33gc1cA 👍😉
A very very nice rifle.What`s the price tag on it? [glad to see You in good health,Sir.]
I paid $120...it varies 👍
@@AirgunDetectives Thank You - missed that for some reason.So,how would tunnig costs? I paid around 45$ for Hatsan`s Vortex and another 50$ to a gunsmith+of course cost of a gun[I`m talking Poland].
And how this gun compare to Diana RWS 34P Pro?
Would the ruger air magnum, kill a coyote with a head shot.?How far?
Would you recommend the Gas power plant or Spring?
Has una prueba de el hatsan striker 1000s porfavor
Great video and what an amazing rifle! 👍🇬🇧
It is a fun rifle and it shoots very well. Thank you for tuning in and I appreciate your comments😉👍
I just bought one. The cheapest I could find it was $190. WORTH EVERY PENNY!!!! Thank you for the review, for future reference, where did you find one for $120??
A couple years ago on Amazon 👍
@@AirgunDetectives Nice! So far this gun has been nothing but great. I had to take the trigger apart and realign the safety latch because it would not catch sometimes but since then everything has been perfect.
What piston seal? I found a couple Diana Rugers online...
@@michaelvalicenti471 it the same diameter seal as the Diana 350
are you selling the barrel shroud ? if so how much?
How is the noise relative to some of the other rifles you have recently tested, say Swarms? I live in the City, and I want to minimize the chance of alarming the neighbors....
I would day it is average and backyard friendly. similar to the Swarm models.
Would you considered sell this rifle. Thank you
Is it my imagination or my just getting a Little older, ... Air rifles seem to be getting Heavier by the year .
Reminds me of carrying my battle rifle some thirty odd years ago in the African bushveld.
Great video, regards.
Have you ever tested th steel eagle 22.cal on th show
What is better this ruger air magnum or the gamo magnum 22
They are both good! With the Ruger tuned I like it much better. Basically the same power and a 20lbs lighter cocking effort. For the $ you would spend on the Gamo you could get a fully tuned version, Xisico XS28, which is the same rifle with a real wood stock, from our friend Mike at Flying 🐉. You could shoot that all day with minimum cocking effort.
Airgun Detectives can I get the gamo magnum with the wood stock
Airgun Detectives where can I get the bsa scope that you have on the air rifle and what is the cost
@@patrioticamerican6414 Gamo doesn't offer that yet.
@@patrioticamerican6414 you can't get the scope. It has been discontinued but Gamo now owns BSA. They offer a large variety of scopes and there basic 3-9x 40 AO air rifle scope works well and it's around $75.00
What is the id and od of this gun????can I install diana 350 magnum spring....
Yes...it takes the identical spring. Happy Shooting!
How much full package and posible ship in marianas island saipan U.S.A
Man how many guns do you have and shoot per week???
how much for the barrel shroud
Hy what supresor is this
Apex Muzzle Weight" www.airrifleheadquarters.com
Hey brother, I'm looking for a nice 22 caliber. Break barrel
300$ max
200$ preferred
What is the best , light weight, and budget friendly air rifle out right now?
In your opinion?
Please and thank you
This may interest you. Check this "Fully Tuned" Umarex Octane .22 cal. Puts out 24 FPE airgundetectives.com/product/gamo-swarm-magnum-22-caliber-break-barrel/
@@AirgunDetectives yes I was looking at this one. It destroys scopes though. I think I'm going to pull the trigger on a umarex Gauntlet 25, since it can be pumped up.
Thanks for the reply
@@everythingaquariums7050 those are great PCP rifles!
I have one, I bought it for rabbit hunting but just to long prefer my 392s for that. I would really like to trick it out.
1. How do you take the front site off.
2. Where did you get that muzzle break.
3. What scope are you using. I don't want to get something its going to destroy, I don't have to tell you about the recoil 😂.
I know its no Sig, but its the closest I will get to it in my state.
Thanks!
1) remove the set-screw and tap it off 2) They no longer produce the muzzle brake www.airrifleheadquarters.com/catalog/item/1205004/692734.htm
3) BSA Tactical Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 3-12x 44mm Side Focus Mil-Dot Reticle with a glass etched reticle. That is no longer made.
4) Happy Shooting 👍👍😉😉
@@AirgunDetectives thanks 🙂
Nice rifle
Can you diesel the gun and show the fps.
Ty jg
Dieseling the rifle is not a good thing. It gives you an inconsistent high velocity as a result of an explosion in the compression chamber. That is hard on the piston seal and eventually damages the rifle. So you want to avoid dieseling to keep a natural steady velocity which then provides good accuracy. Thank you for tuning in 😉👍
No T06 trigger and not one mention of the 45# cocking effort of the real Diana 350? Doesn't really sound like a Diana 350 clone.
Sweet! You are a Maestro! I never thought that a Springer could give that kind of accuracy.
Out of curiosity, where do you get your skill working on airguns? Are you retired military or LEO? ARMORER? Engineer? Or just enthusiast?
What do you do with all the used guns you have after the reviews? Are you a collector and keep them or do you ever sell them? I would be interested in buying something that you're done with after you've tuned it!!!
Retired LEO last year. This is my personal collection I have built up over the years. I have always been mechanically inclined. I will be parting with some of these in the future, I am running out of storage space. Although, some, I just can't part with. I may post a few on my website in the future. I appreciate the comments and thanks for watching. 👍
@@AirgunDetectives Retired LEO? Thank you for your service.👍 Detective, or SWAT? Should've guessed. What about airgun competition? How long have you been airgunning? Do you hunt with airguns? If so, what is your main caliber when you hunt? Can you recommend any place that is airgun friendly for hunting?
@@kenfan5666 I retired as a Detective Sergeant, 30 years on the dept.. No airgun competition but a lot of formal firearms training over the years. I don't do much hunting anymore, in fact it has been years. Wild boar was the last. But I used a 30-06 for that. I wasn't fond of the taste. I am more interested in target shooting and plinking. I have been shooting airguns since I was a kid. I got serious about it and back into it about 10 years ago. Now you know where the "Airgun Detectives" comes from. 😉
@@AirgunDetectives JC, thanks for indulging me and all my questions. Actually, I just found out about the detective part a few minutes before your reply.
I have binged on your videos for the last few days and have watched nearly all of your videos except maybe a dozen. So last night I decided to watch from the beginning. Before you start selling your collection on line, please let me know what you want to sell. I might be interested.
Me and my family are moving back to the States after Malaysia gets over the lockdown and the US is safe to return to.
I haven't hunted in about ten years, if you don't count rat pesting. My last hunting trip was unsuccessful. I spent four days stalking,and it rained the whole time. The last day, as I was packing up, I saw a ten or twelve point in the open as the sun was going down. I had already put away my bow and arrows, and they were in the cab of my truck behind the rest of my gear. I had one boot on and I was about two hundred yards away. Oh well. C'est la vie.
I have been planning on teaching my kids to hunt and stalk, mostly just showing them signs of traffic along paths, how they can find different game, and their habitats, and have spent some time with them doing some trigger discipline and target practice with NERF guns. Here in Malaysia airsoft, bb guns, and pellet guns are illegal.
When people ask me about "gun nuts" and the second amendment they are surprised to know I am a "gun nut."
Can't wait to give my kids their own 1077s. Once they get their trigger time in I'll move them up to 1322's and 2400kt's before we go to break barrels and PCP's. Watching your videos has been a pleasure. Keep them coming!
Stay safe, be well, and God bless!
This rifle shoots harder than the hatsan mod 95 in .22??
Yes it does. The Ruger qualifies as a "Magnum" air rifle. The best part is it cocks relatively easy. Thanks for watching 👍
Ohh i was confusing this ruger with the ruger impact .22 but thank you
How much you charge to tune one like that
I am way too busy...But you can check with our friend Mike at Flying Dragon Air Rifles.
Where did you get the muzzle break and do you have a link?
Matt, I am checking to see if they are still making them. I will let you know when I get a response.
Airgun Detectives-Airgun Reviews Thank you !!! Excellent review.
@@matthewtrimmer293 Ok...I just checked with Jim, 4-5 weeks he'll have more ready to go. Make sure you tell him John with Airgun Detectives says Hi! "Apex Muzzle Weight" www.airrifleheadquarters.com
Airgun Detectives-Airgun Reviews thank you
Will this dial down the noise, mine is really loud in my opinion?
I just got one that came with the stock scope. And man that scope really is mediocre at best. It's given me great grouping at 50ft of half inch groups but the next few shots will have fliers that group around 3 inches. Will for sure look for a better scope than this one. The rifle on the other hand is by far the best for the cost. Accurate, and powerful and loves the hades Diablos
Sold
I have never seen a scope that has no adjustment to it. Are you sure about that? If no adjustment you could never site in the rifle and that does not make sense to me.
Meaning "Magnification" and no Adjustable Objective...of course it has windage and elevation. Happy Shooting!
@@AirgunDetectives Now I understand. Thank you.
I.love mine
This or the Gamo Magnum 10X G2?
I would take the tuned Ruger...better yet visit my buddy Mike at Flying Dragon Air Rifles and have him tune a .22 caliber XS28. Same as the Ruger but a wooden stock. I did a review on the .25 XS28, But I would get the .22 caliber. Worth every penny to have him do a full tune.
Airgun Detectives-Airgun Reviews Thank you for your input!
4 shots thru same hole, thats some rootin tootin shootin!!!!
Nice
Why .177 is far accurate then .22 caliber air rifles?
Sorry to hear of loss of your mom.... I am just wondering if you know if a person can tune the Ruger Targus Max 22?
Thanks Ed..Yes the Targis can be tuned. I believe Mike Melick (Flying Dragon Air Rifles)can tune those, but that will cost around $100.
Do you want to sell the Ruger air magnum?thanks
Let me know what you think about a 22cal for $100 that is such a BADASS!!👍👍
If you can get a Ruger Air Magnum .22 cal for $100 maybe purchase 2 of them. You add a Vortek kit and you have an incredible rifle for under $200 total. Now if you're referring to the Gamo Wild Cat. They retail at Gamo for $139. They have good power, IGT gas piston, the downside is the trigger. Once you shoot a CAT or SAT Gamo trigger you will see the difference. So you saved $40 you can put that towards a decent scope. Thanks for watching and I appreciate you taking the time to leave comments 👍