Personally I've always used the standard style of OO9 couplings (The Bachmann/Peco/Greenwich types) simply for ease of use and to keep things standard between kit, scratchbuilt, and RTR models, but I'm always super impressed by anyone who makes the effort to use the proper chain style couplings like you have, as it really elevates the model both in looks and realism, as it has with these amazing Corris models!
These are probably the best example of Corris Railway rolling stock I've seen in 009! The level of detail is incredible and made all the more enhanced by the accurate coupling system. I've been trying to find an alternative coupling type for my own Corris stock so this will be very helpful!
This video helped me find hook and chain couplings for a wagon rake I made last year - I ended up gluing the chain at both ends making a fixed rake, as a workaround. I hadn’t thought to look at standard gauge wagon side safely chains. A suggestion: adding links to the products you use would be helpful.
Hi George. As I think you know, I'm not actively modelling railways at the moment, but I'm watching and enjoying every one of your videos. You'll have me back on the dark side again if I'm not careful! Noel
Almost perfect ! I would also love to see you evaluate Spratt and Winkle. However, the video is very well done and I'm am very appreciative of your efforts !
Now I’ve never used them (which is why they’re not in the video) but they are another good contender, I very nearly went for them for a 7mm project, so you may well see them in the near future!
Those hook and chain couplings really suit the stock that you've built. Also I had no idea that brass blackener was a thing! I could've used that for a project last year, so I'll definitely be getting some now.
The look amazing, but really not user friendly - I used them here as the layout is a simple loop, the next project requires shunting so I’ll be using something else
Thanks for this, good to see them all side by side, and to see the hook and chains in action, had been considering something similar for fixed rakes of slate wagons I’ve got, the peco close couplers I’ve found seem to struggle in long rakes around bends, particularly if the height isn’t spot on. Had been considering a hybrid solution with something like the hook and chain in the rakes and then bemo or peco at the ends, or a match truck to adapt between the two, would give a nice blend between realism and ease of use then, hopefully! Food for thought!
Yes they do have the bonus at being usable with varied height stock - even at the Corris railway the coupling height changed between waggons, some were bolted below the frame, and some above, and that’s just one railway! Yes it’s a common option to run chains within rakes, and peco/bachmann at the ends mean they’re useable on a normal layout!
An interesting final choice there :) of all the couplings mentioned, the Greenwich ones worked best for me when I modelled 009. I find couplings in 16mm far less intimidating 😂
Very inspirational those hook and chains look perfect I think I will have to give them a go, how are they practically though for coupling up, would they be too fiddly for shunting and how do you couple them with a magnet or tweezers? Thank you :)
I don’t think I’d want to uncouple them much, they look great, but are a pain to use. I only put them on these because it’s just a loop of track, but if I had points I probably wouldn’t have put them on! I use tweezers to couple them up
I have completely fallen for proper screw/3-link couplings on my OO stuff, well aside from long coaches but most things with only 4 wheels and on track planned for chain links they’ll work
I’m not sure why these companies are making them so big, they don’t need to, and look terrible on smaller stock, on the tr wagons it’s nearly another wagon length added on. Thanks for the note on Greenwich, I had no idea. My packs were bought a few years ago, I wouldn’t have assumed they would stop pre blackening them
I actually tried these etched brass hooks in N gauge once and it was a disaster! Half an hour to assemble a rake of coaches to a loco, then 30 seconds of running before a derailment dragged the whole lot over.
I use couplings like those in 16mm scale, and even at 4 times the size of 009 they're very fiddly, that being said, I think for wagons at least, I'm going to give those a try in 009, they look great
I can’t express enough how fiddly they are 😅.but as the trains won’t need to uncouple (only when I get bored of looking at the current formation) then the looks take priority! Do you run any particular railway on the 16mm, or just anything you fancy?
I have used Kadees in the past and found them to be be great..but not on TR or CR stock, where the look just doesn’t fit. If I do Welshpool & Llanfair I’ll use them I think
Hmm ... interesting comparison. Although not prototypical for the Corris (or the T.R.) I'm surprised you didn't mention the Tramfabriek chopper coupling 🤔 Expensive, but very realistic?
I’ve only gone with what I use myself, I didn’t buy any others. As I said, it’s a personal comparison for my stock, but choppers wouldn’t be prototypical for CR anyway.
Personally I've always used the standard style of OO9 couplings (The Bachmann/Peco/Greenwich types) simply for ease of use and to keep things standard between kit, scratchbuilt, and RTR models, but I'm always super impressed by anyone who makes the effort to use the proper chain style couplings like you have, as it really elevates the model both in looks and realism, as it has with these amazing Corris models!
Cheers. They look great, but only if you don’t need to shunt!
@@GWilliamsonModels well, I'm building an end to end layout with sidings, so no good for me!
Thank you for a most informative video.
I hope they come in handy
Please dont be one of those good youtubers who stop uploading, cause i like how you put togehter your videos!
I’ll try my best!
These are probably the best example of Corris Railway rolling stock I've seen in 009! The level of detail is incredible and made all the more enhanced by the accurate coupling system. I've been trying to find an alternative coupling type for my own Corris stock so this will be very helpful!
That means a lot, Thankyou! Hopefully the scenic work will be just as good!
This video helped me find hook and chain couplings for a wagon rake I made last year - I ended up gluing the chain at both ends making a fixed rake, as a workaround. I hadn’t thought to look at standard gauge wagon side safely chains. A suggestion: adding links to the products you use would be helpful.
Hi sorry for the delay, I can’t easily add links to some products, as I just use what fits from my spares box, such as the chain
Hi George.
As I think you know, I'm not actively modelling railways at the moment, but I'm watching and enjoying every one of your videos.
You'll have me back on the dark side again if I'm not careful!
Noel
Good to know Noel, we will be waiting ;)
Almost perfect ! I would also love to see you evaluate Spratt and Winkle.
However, the video is very well done and I'm am very appreciative of your efforts !
Now I’ve never used them (which is why they’re not in the video) but they are another good contender, I very nearly went for them for a 7mm project, so you may well see them in the near future!
Those hook and chain couplings really suit the stock that you've built. Also I had no idea that brass blackener was a thing! I could've used that for a project last year, so I'll definitely be getting some now.
The brass blackened is amazing, and works so quickly. Definitely try it out
Love your narration!
Why weren't some of the wheels spinning on the wagons?
Thanks!
They should, it’s probably how light they are, not enough weight pushing down on them
Comprehensive and informative. The hook and chain certainty look the best choice 🥳👍
The look amazing, but really not user friendly - I used them here as the layout is a simple loop, the next project requires shunting so I’ll be using something else
Thanks for this, good to see them all side by side, and to see the hook and chains in action, had been considering something similar for fixed rakes of slate wagons I’ve got, the peco close couplers I’ve found seem to struggle in long rakes around bends, particularly if the height isn’t spot on. Had been considering a hybrid solution with something like the hook and chain in the rakes and then bemo or peco at the ends, or a match truck to adapt between the two, would give a nice blend between realism and ease of use then, hopefully! Food for thought!
Yes they do have the bonus at being usable with varied height stock - even at the Corris railway the coupling height changed between waggons, some were bolted below the frame, and some above, and that’s just one railway!
Yes it’s a common option to run chains within rakes, and peco/bachmann at the ends mean they’re useable on a normal layout!
Definitely made me reconsider coupling options! Great video! 😊
Good to hear Kiera! Hopefully you’ll find what suits you best
Probably Greenwich for me I think. Thanks for the video as it helped with my decision.
Good choice, I use Greenwich on my normal models
An interesting final choice there :) of all the couplings mentioned, the Greenwich ones worked best for me when I modelled 009. I find couplings in 16mm far less intimidating 😂
I use Greenwich for my 5.5mm modelling, and will continue to use them when I have any shunting on a layout
Another excellent video thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
incredible video love the couplings their so realistic but coupling up stock i can only guess is quite fiddly
Very fiddly, yes! But this stock will only run as set trains, so the looks outweigh the fiddlyness
Very inspirational those hook and chains look perfect I think I will have to give them a go, how are they practically though for coupling up, would they be too fiddly for shunting and how do you couple them with a magnet or tweezers?
Thank you :)
I don’t think I’d want to uncouple them much, they look great, but are a pain to use. I only put them on these because it’s just a loop of track, but if I had points I probably wouldn’t have put them on!
I use tweezers to couple them up
@George Williamson thank you, I will bare that in mind when I get building my stock
I have completely fallen for proper screw/3-link couplings on my OO stuff, well aside from long coaches but most things with only 4 wheels and on track planned for chain links they’ll work
They look brilliant, don’t they?
@@GWilliamsonModels I can't get enough of them, screw/3-link everything!
Couple of comments. The peco RTR couplings are quite different to bachmann too (even bigger profile). The Greenwich no longer come pre-blackened.
I’m not sure why these companies are making them so big, they don’t need to, and look terrible on smaller stock, on the tr wagons it’s nearly another wagon length added on.
Thanks for the note on Greenwich, I had no idea. My packs were bought a few years ago, I wouldn’t have assumed they would stop pre blackening them
I actually tried these etched brass hooks in N gauge once and it was a disaster! Half an hour to assemble a rake of coaches to a loco, then 30 seconds of running before a derailment dragged the whole lot over.
Yes I can see how that may happen, though they don’t unlink too easily so I’m hoping it would be a quick job getting the train back on rails
I use couplings like those in 16mm scale, and even at 4 times the size of 009 they're very fiddly, that being said, I think for wagons at least, I'm going to give those a try in 009, they look great
I can’t express enough how fiddly they are 😅.but as the trains won’t need to uncouple (only when I get bored of looking at the current formation) then the looks take priority! Do you run any particular railway on the 16mm, or just anything you fancy?
my apologies I replied with the wrong account, I pretty much run a mix of anything that takes my fancy
Nice - but why didn't you consider Kadeem couplers either H0n3 or N-scale ?
I have used Kadees in the past and found them to be be great..but not on TR or CR stock, where the look just doesn’t fit. If I do Welshpool & Llanfair I’ll use them I think
Hmm ... interesting comparison. Although not prototypical for the Corris (or the T.R.) I'm surprised you didn't mention the Tramfabriek chopper coupling 🤔 Expensive, but very realistic?
I’ve only gone with what I use myself, I didn’t buy any others. As I said, it’s a personal comparison for my stock, but choppers wouldn’t be prototypical for CR anyway.
Or you could just use Kadee N-scale couplers.
That’s an option, but I’m not really keen on the look of them for Corris stock