I recently bought the T gauge HST. Amazed just how much detail they managed on such a tiny model. They even make an 08, although it’s out of stock at the moment.
Yes it's very impressive - hopefully I'll be able to make a railway that isn't too far off, but I'll struggle to actually get the detail quite as good!
Okey that´s just adorable. BUt I love tiny things they are so fascinating and when it´s this small it´s even something I could own in my small apartment.
Greetings from a rail fan Yank in the Pacific Northwest. I was not previously familiar with your channel, and this is the first video of yours that has appeared in my recommended feed. It brought to mind memories of four decades or so ago, when I first discovered the existence of Z-scale train sets in one of my hometown's local hobby shops (back in the days when we actually had truly independent/locally-owned shops - and even more than one - rather than just a franchised location of a national corporate chain) as an adolescent/"tween" in the early '80s, and at the time, I thought they were pretty amazing. Before I was born, or whilst an infant, my late father purchased at best a few pre-assembled or kit versions of rolling stock and track for a planned HO scale set that he never did anything further with. Like me, he was impressed with the diminutive size of Z-scale when it arrived, though it was prohibitively pricey then, and with limited offerings - so any thoughts of going in this direction also just remained on an unfulfilled wish list. I wasn't even aware of T-scale being a thing now, and haven't investigated pricing of items in that range - but based your own comments and those of other viewers, it may be worthwhile for me to look into them at some point in the future - provided my eyesight and fine motor skills don't significantly decline 😆. With everything else that I have managed to collect over the years (and likely will have to start parting with), it seems like a far more manageable size than any other scale that I know of, particularly if my future living space must also decrease in size at some point. Thank you for sharing your impressions of it with us - I look forward to seeing further developments!
Hi, thanks for sharing that interesting history of yours with model railways 🙂 T is definitely a good size for getting a model of a large scene into a small space, though overall how manageable it is to work with remains to be seen for me! The starter pack with a loop of track, controller and 2+2 HST pack, plus a separate 5-car HST extension pack came to around £330 here in the UK last year. On the whole track laying with slightly finer-scale flexi-track seems to be OK, but I haven't tried to make scenic things yet.
On the museum display layout, a G scale replica of the section of town including the railway Station, I have used T Gauge as a garden railway in one of the suburban back yards in a figure 8 for which I had to make the track at 3mm myself. I also included a turnout to the shed which took four attempts to make without causing derailments every time. I don't plan to do anything more than this in T gauge but I have added an N gauge with modified rollingstock, into the park section with G scale passengers riding on them.
That would actually work quite well. I've seen N used to represent 7.25"/7.5" gauge before, so T would be a great pick for (roughly) representing G in G. Gception!
They remind me of the tiny cars my mother used to buy me. Some I associated with my earliest birthday cakes. Others would fall to pieces on warm sunny days as I played with them outside the garage. They would have been perfect arranged around tea cups. Thank you for sharing your micro trains on this fridge winter day. Now youve got to get decals for them. Happy Christmas!
It's mind-boggling, isn't it?! I never had train micro trains, but having recently (re-)seen them in the original Home Alone movie, I think T| might be a fair bit smaller 🙂
@@endoorrailwayLOL😂😂😂😂 if you took the t.set outside while charged on a picnic table a chipmunk 🐿️could jump on the table think it's a piece of food & try to eat the puny engine then spit it out 😖💨
That 7+2 HST set is what attracted me to the scale too. When coupling up, I suggest using a pair of tweezers to squeeze the couplers together. That locks them properly into place and lets you avoid any issues with one carriage being lifted off the track. You really have to keep the track and wheels clean, using tweezers again to pick the lint out from the gears and axles. Be careful when handling the power cars - never, ever pull on the bogies or you will stretch their attachment springs, so hold the bogie and body / chassis rigidly together when working on them. And get a pack or two of replacement springs the next time you place an order, just in case. Then sit back and watch the trains run!
Hi, those are loads of valuable tips there, thank you for taking the time to share them with me! It looks like you've done some impressive things in T gauge!!
Thank you. Building and running a medium sized layout such as your proposed Dawlish should be straightforward enough, but anything much beyond that becomes challenging (to put it mildly). I got cold feet after starting a 20 foot model of Ribblehead, and ended up taking a 90 degree turn into the Twilight Zone with my linear motor stuff and haven't looked back! To see what can be done in conventional T Gauge, however, you might want to track down Orbost and The Bridge.
Thanks - I've had a look around, and yes, they both look impressive! It shows just how small you have to go with the scale to make models of some of these awesome structures.
Thank you 🙂 It was a surprise to me a year ago, even though it turned out it had been around for many years, and RUclips is still finding plenty of people who haven't heard of it yet!
N gauge is pretty good for small spaces, but it feels like you can get an awful lot more railway in with T :) I've yet to get cracking with any actual modelling at this scale though - we'll see how that goes!
Once I'd found out about this I was surprised at how many videos there are, and how long it's been around for. I can't deny it's got a novelty factor for me at the moment! 🙂
T SCALE FROM JAPAN T scale 1:450 has been around since 2006. Introduced by Eishindo in Japan. Model Railways are the biggest indoor Hobby in Japan. Indeed there are more N scale modellers in Japan, than there are modellers of ALL scales up to Gauge 1 in the whole of the rest of the World 3.5 times over. With N gauge model fans now estimated at around 20 Million. N scale has traditionally had the biggest following due the average home in Japan being very small. T - scale being the tinniest commercial scale currently, has attraction for Japanese model railway fans, because it is so small. You can build a complex layout on your kitchen table. Followers of the scale are hard to confirm, as many regular N scale modellers also have a T-scale interest. So figures of 500,000 T scale modellers in Japan, could be partially a duplicity !!! Another reason for the huge interest in model railways in Japan is a Cultural result. In Japan the wife takes precedence over the husband within the home, on everything. So the wife has to deal with the Children's hobbies, and quite obviously every little boy needs a train set. Which "mum" is also expected to build !!! Hence even Supermarkets sell model trains !!!
Hi, wow that's really interesting and such a contrast to here in the UK! Model railway items in the supermarket - that's so awesome! Thanks for sharing :)
@@endoorrailway T Scale was originally from Japan, but I can't find it there now for love nor money, and I live a 20 minute bike ride away from the second largest "otaku area" in the country, with tons of modelling shops, including at least 20 train specialists. I'm not sure who makes T Scale now, I think it might even be a British company (I see prices in pounds even when visiting the site from Japan), which explains the various British trains on offer. Maybe one day I'll make a British or Japanese mini-layout. Perhaps a Hankyu line in the mountains or between Osaka and Kobe... Also the train sets I've seen in supermarkets are all "Plarail", which is an unrealistic toy (though, no doubt, a gateway drug!) with cartoonishly-proportioned trains and blue plastic track which trains run in, not on. Bigger electronic shops like Yodobashi Camera have gigantic Plarail layouts over multiple levels.
Your plan for the T-scale models reminds me of a layout featured in a Railway Modeller magazine around 1973, under the title "watching the trains go by". The modeller used two long straight pieces of track along the front of their mantelpiece, the centre of the layout. At each end, a spiral arrangement inside the scenery allowed for the storage of several trains, which were each allowed to progress one section at a time, eventually running along the exposed sections. The timing was such that trains appeared at roughly scale timings and you could watch the trains go by.
That sounds really good, and a mantelpiece sounds like an ideal place for occasionally seeing a train go by! A couple of years ago I was wondering about some kind of automated end-to-end shuttle N gauge Christmas layout on my mantelpiece, but haven't done anything about it. Of course with T there's almost enough space for loops at either end to fit on there too.
Pain is part of the fun with Tgauge! I've had to service my trains, and taking off and on the springs from boogies to body is challenging without bending or deforming them! So I ordered a couple of backup springs with my next order, which is also good because they can be easily lost as well, much tinier than the trains themselves. Also be extremely careful when taking the train apart, I cracked my very first starter set train a couple years ago due to too much dust getting stuck in the gears, the plastic is very thin and brittle. There are 2 impressive TGauge builders out there you can find on RUclips, MMBUFBerlin channel in general & Richard Kříž with his video "Whole build of T-gauge layout 1:480"
To do a really good job of modelling Dawlish, you'll have to arrange for waves to break over the station! Very wet memories of waiting for the train there.
RUclips JUST recommended this video to me. and I'm SO glad it did! I've had N-Guage nearly all my life, since buying a Farish cattle truck, on holiday aged 5 years old! T-gauge is properly mental though, I can't believe something that small works, it looks amazing. BUT... my favourite part.... You have a Metroliner in the background!!!!! (My RUclips Channel is Lego based, and I do a lot of train videos!) You've gained a new subscriber!
I'm glad you liked the video and T gauge! I put the Lego train in as something of a recognizable scale - I've had that for about 30 years and it still works! (Though it spent a lot of those years not doing any work in an attic). Thanks for the subscription - I shall have to check your channel out too 🙂
Hi Rick and Pauline, I have followed your RUclips videos for a long time now and always enjoy them. Unfortunately we have never met but I very much hope that changes one day! It would seem the furthest south you go and the furthest north I go, might just mean we could meet! I was a railway guard for 22 years and have amassed a huge amount of knowledge and experience but don't ever like to boast about it. I go to a great many railway shows and usually enjoy them (and often spend too much!). I feel I am looking over your shoulder when you do your videos. I will be at the Milton Keynes show this Saturday (my birthday!). I guess it's too far away for you though. With regards from Zoë Webb in Stevenage.
Hi Zoë, you address you comment to Rick and Pauline, so I'm not sure whether or not I'm the intended recipient of the message! I personally don't go to many railway shows at all, and decided when setting up this channel to keep my true identity anonymous. I enjoy giving and receiving helpful, interesting and encouraging comments though - I think it's one of the good things about the model railway RUclips community 🙂 Happy Birthday for Saturday! Jonathan
@@endoorrailway Oh, sorry I don't know what happened there. I have only ever sent a couple of comments out, looks like I've got things a bit mixed up somehow! Thanks for replying anyway. Regards, Zoë.
Quite interesting. Back in the 1960's, dad and I ran HO, O and N gauge trains. He bought a set of TT gauge, tiny treble and ran it on the floor. It always derailed when going through the tunnel, but it was still fun.
I like the idea of a Dawlish layout. I don't know if scenery is your forte or not ( I've only just come across your channel!), but it might be fun to extend the layout to include a tunnel or two more, eg: including Coryton Cove, (nice little beach, with the railway behind it popping out of the other end of Kennaway tunnel) There are some lovely interesting cliff formations around there including the Parson and Clark.
I don't think I've found a forte just yet! Lots of that coastal run looks great, you're right, but even in this scale it takes a lot of space to model much from real life. Possibly an extension in the more distant future, turning it into an 'L' shape to add more heading South through the sections you suggest.
I already thought it was crazy to hear the scale as a number, but to SEE it is another thing entirely. Barely bigger than a pencil and smaller than a lego minifig is wild
I am an N Scaler too. I have a small collection of Z Scale but these T Scale trains are outrageous. Haha!! Not sure if I'm ready for them because the detail really isn't there yet and like you, I've heard people having difficulty keeping them together and on the rails as well.
I think with a high-resolution 3D printer there are options for making the detail, but I've yet to brave the world of 3D printing! For me the detail is ok for a sort of "far off" view of the railway.
@@endoorrailway well I think the passenger set seems a little more realistic compared to the freight trains. Have you seen the freight sets? The locomotives lack way too much detail. They have the look of a very young child’s toy in comparison to the look of a real model, so to speak. lol
Hey Jonathan, this is insanely small! I love that there's an HST available at this scale! I must have seen similar videos to you, which had also piqued my interest, but I struggle to see the details in N gauge, so not sure my eyes would survive an encounter with a T scale layout! A Dawlish based layout on a shelf sounds like a great idea though, and I'll definitely await your progress with interest! All the best, Ian.
Hi Ian, yes, I think an HST is just the right thing for getting started with this. A (distant) future challenge will be to see if I can repaint another set into swallow livery (I'll need to seriously up-skill first though!!) There isn't a huge amount of detail to see - it's like looking at a railway from further away, but I imagine the camera will highlight all sorts of things that I can't actually make out in-person, so it could be interesting when it comes to making scenery and signals for this!
Thoughts on using a Tgauge within a g scale layout? A model railroad WITHIN a model railroad? If my math checks out, i think the Tgauge train would look close to a "g-scale" from the persepctice of the g scale people.
As a kid i was always mystified by extra-tiny scale gauges that model railroad enthusiasts would build into their coffee tables. This reminds me of those!
T- gauge ha ha AMAZING, can't wait to see your new long oval layout, subbed oh I see! this Vid is Nine months old, I will look up your videos to catch with things
Thanks :) I doubt there's been as much progress as you'd expect for 9 months! My time on model railways is pretty small overall, and within that I'm more focussed on the N gauge. I've made a playlist for the Dawlish T Wall though for those who aren't interested in the N gauge bits.
I think N scale (or 1:148 for UK stuff) is the ideal - lots of detail and features are possible whilst still getting a relatively large modelled area and length of trains, but I do enjoy the T too 🙂
@@MarkWilliams-w8g There are some T scale scenic items, like buildings, cars, people, trees, but there aren't loads of things. I wouldn't use any buildings or such from a much larger scale like Z, but I think when it comes to flocks and scatters it has to be the same stuff, so the textures just aren't going to look as good up close. I found it difficult to choose what to use for track ballast (I made a video about that) - I think I settled on either tile grout or plaster - I'll have to look back at my notes when I come to do that!
I was shocked when I found out about it! I haven't seen anything about 1:350, but I only found out about T gauge because of a video RUclips put into my feed, so you never know.
I bought a similar set. Problem I found is that not all the power cars run at the same speed. If the faster one is pulling, everything is fine. Go the other way and it soon derails. Removing the central motorised carriage helped. One power car can easily pull half a dozen or more coaches, with no derailment in either direction, so i might just try & remove the motorised drive from the other power car somehow so it just freewheels. To be continued…
That's a good point - I haven't compared the speeds of the power cars. I have bought some non-magnetised wheels though, so help with reducing the rolling resistance on the trailing coaches - I haven't done anything with them yet though, and that wouldn't help if the motorised cars run at different speeds. It'll be interesting to see what you find - the rate at which I do stuff with my T gauge things is very slow!
I've wondered what might be possible - if it wasn't confined to just the loco I think it would be possible to get a specially-shaped board into a coach, and capacitors would be needed because the power to the tracks is in pulses rather than continuous... but I'm not sure a speaker that's small enough would sound very good, or be louder than the motor 🤣
Others who've run T Gauge a lot more than me say that keeping them meticulously clean is essential. My railway room is relatively dust-free because it's usually shut off from the rest of the house, but doesn't have an air filter.
Bit late but I don't think the issue is couplers. Both the front and rear units of the train are powered, as such, while taking a corner the rear kind of squashes out the mid-most carriages.
It's been a while since I published this video, but I still haven't actually done anything about that! Yes I think you're probably right - thanks for sharing your thoughts on that. I've bought non-magnetised wheels to reduce the drag of the train and wonder if I can swap the body on the powered buffet car with either the TGS or a TF to go next to a power car, then make one of the power cars into a dummy power car.
If both of the locomotives are powered, the one running in reverse could be pushing the cars off the track. Try running forward without the other locomotive. The theory I have is that both motors at either end is creating an accordion effect causing the cars to derail.
They could be, yes - because the wheels are magnetised the coaches don't roll nicely, but I wonder if having all the power cars in the middle of the train would work a lot better. Thanks for the comment 🙂
Coreless motors can be quite small. Recently they've become reasonably piwerful as a result of the growth of the tiny quadcopter market. SMD LEDs help with the lighting.
Ah, it's the quadcopters driving the motor improvements - many scales of trains are benefitting from it 🙂 I bought some 0.3 by 0.6mm SMD LEDs a while back - it's amazing how much light cam come from such a small component!
@endoorrailway Oh yeah, if you look at those 100W+ COBs - they're basically a bunch of tiny SMD LEDs in a big package that can actually be used by a human. Thinking about it... the diode junction itself is very very small, so there's no real need for it to be very big, other than to package it in a way that lets you mount/solder it in place. The big "traditional" ones are basically the same junction wrapped in more plastic and with longer leads. It's all really really cool 😁
It's incredible what miniature tech going into lots of everyday things, only then to be put into massive packaging. I watched a programme a while back on a channel called Veritasium about how it took a long time for blue LEDs to be invented because of all of the intricacies of getting photons to move in the right way.
The irony of T scale is that it’s almost as much smaller than G scale as G scale is smaller than the real trains. You could have a G scale layout and have G scale people playing with a T scale train.
Imagine all railways in the world just decide trains are too expensive and replace it with t gauge trains. Awesome video btw, I never even knew t gauge existed
I think these would struggle out in the elements! Thanks 🙂 The existence of T gauge took me by surprise too - it's been around for a while, but I didn't have a clue until about a year ago!
Yeah, first went on sale back in 2007, it's just not massively mainstream or well publicised due to it's very small following and high costs - and in to this the fact that there are very few accessories for it compared to the larger scales which puts people off. If you have a 3d printer though, its perfect as you can pretty much design everything and print as many as you want (houses etc) because at this scale it just has to look right and proper details aren't a big deal @@endoorrailway
That makes sense - I think I just got lucky that an available train is one that I like! In scale terms it's more expensive than N gauge, but in absolute terms it seems to be less expensive. Yes I've been thinking about the 3D printing possibilities, but getting a 3D printer and the associated equipment is a whole other venture that I don't think I'll be starting any time soon. I suspect I'll be tempted to eventually though :)
I think I can see these trains more clearly than I often see full-size trains on the real railway at distances I usually see them from... whether or not that will be the case with my eyesight in another 20+ years I don't know 😆
The Forth Bridge was my handiwork....took three years to build but worth it. Took it to 25 exhibitions an was awarded 6 "best in Show" trophies....including BIS at ModelRail Scotland in 2017
Lol 😆. That reminds me though, I did have one years ago - if you search "giant pencil" you'll find plenty of options - I guess they're considered a novelty Christmas gift!
@@endoorrailwayI recently priced a T gauge beginner set, with a two coaches, and three wagons, plus a beautiful F unit locomotive. It was a figure 8 within an oval. I could not justify the price. It was $615 CAN. How much did you pay for your T gauge.
The starter pack with a loop of track, controller and 2+2 HST pack, plus a separate 5-car HST extension pack (one of the cars being a motorised one) came to around £330 here in the UK last year, and I don't think the prices have changed much since then. According to Google that comes out at not much under $600 CAN, so it's not far off what you've found. When I last did a like-for-like comparison with N gauge, T gauge came out a fair bit cheaper in absolute terms, but obviously you get much smaller trains, so proportionally it's more expensive. N is usually less expensive than OO, and all of them a lot less expensive than Z... the key phrase here is "less expensive" as opposed to "cheap" - it's an annoyingly expensive hobby.
What voltage does it use? I've seen these little sterling engines with usb out. I've been desperately thinking of a use for one. And it would be a cool power source
The controller the set came with is pulse width modulation at 5 Volts, so USB would be powerful enough. I think that would be a super-cool way to power a T gauge set!
What about those interesting ideas for most of the Class 411 and that also includes those interesting Class 421 Very Very Loud 7 Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Transmission Train fans out there, rather than scrapping most of those Class 411 including the Class 421’s maybe you guys can convert them. Including rebuilding most of the brand new refurbishment into the Scania N112 Engine, Gardner 6LXCT Engine, Gardner 6LXC Engine, Volvo D10M Engine, Leyland TL11 Engine, Volvo B10M Engine, Leyland 510 Engine, Gardner 6LXB Engine, Gardner LG1200 Engine, Gardner 8LXB Engine, Class 411 and the Class 421 with a Very Very Loud 7 Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearboxes and converting and that will also be including building most of them into a Two Carriages and Three Carriages per units of the Class 411 and that is including those Class 421 Very Very Loud 7 Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Transmission for all of us Class 411 and Class 421 Diesel Train fans out there PLEASE. Are you still going to do this interesting type of Project? Class 411 and that will be rebuilding the brand new Class 421 Diesel Train Pretty PLEASE?
I don't know anything about class 411 or 421s, or any of the engines you mentioned. Once I've finished building the Dawlish T Wall layout I'm considering buying a second HST for it, so I can have trains running in each direction. Although there are plenty of other British locomotives and trains I like, both steam and diesel, it's the N gauge railway where I get those - I don't have the skill or equipment to build custom T gauge trains, and the other available ready-to-run models I've seen aren't ones that I'm interested in (well, I do like Class 08 shunters, but I'm not convinced about how the wheels and coupling rods on the T gauge one look, or how well it would work, or what it would be doing going along the sea wall at Dawlish).
I wonder if anyone has considered making the track a linear motor, so the rolling stock can be much simpler (thus smaller), with inductive pick-ups for the lights 🤔
They have indeed - check out www.youtube.com/@modelrailmusings5981 - he's done quite a lot with linear motor track, and made some impressive layouts and trains.
That would be a very novel kind of base! Yes, there's flexible track, but it doesn't sit flat - it has a corkscrew to it, so it needs to be firmly held by glue or pins, and any base needs enough weight to resist being lifted.
Sounds like it deserves a slightly different moniker - the ‘Devonshire (cream) T.’ Sorry - couldn’t resist! It’s a bit crazy just how small that thing is, though. As a OO modeler the mind boggles.
lol, yes that works quite well! Yes, I'm currently trying to figure out whether or not I can get colour signals to work, when the black bit with the lights in will need to be no more than 1mm wide - it's proving challenging!
HSTs most commonly had 8 coaches, but there were 7 and 9-coach formations too. The 9-coach ones I think were mostly on the East Coast routes, and the 7-coach ones on Cross Country ones - that certainly continued into the privatisation era of HSTs that I saw.
I actually have had a similar derailment experience with my N scale N700 Shinkansen (1/160 since Japan uses US standards for standard gauge equipment, their cape gauge equipment is 1/150), where longer trains are more prone to derailments. I think the issue is just trying to run those extra-long coaches on a tight loop of track like that.
1 engine may run slightly faster than another engine, make sure the fastest/most powerful is in the front, that way you avoid carts being pushed with too much force, it has helped many people@@endoorrailway
Thanks for the tip - I did wonder if something like that might be a factor. In my most recent order (arrived but not unboxed yet!) I've ordered some non-magnetised wheels to experiments with on the coaches - if I can get them to roll more freely I might be able to get away with fewer motorised vehicles in the train. I'm also considering swapping the body of the motorised buffet car for either the TGS or a First Class carriage to go right next to the power car. Just thoughts at this stage though!
There are several things on tgauge.com, but I think overall there's not all that much choice, so scratch building will be the way to go since I don't have a 3D printer, but I've yet to discover if I can make things look any good at this scale!
@@endoorrailway They are called 'Straight' type and marked P033 in the original Hong Kong catalogue -1 in Black and -2 in grey. You may want to try a few first, as they not go well with all types of cars, especially not the longer ones. It depends a lot on the curves used on your layout, as they also shorten the distance between cars - which does really improve the appearence as well.
I built a Z gauge layout in a coffee table under glass about 15 years ago or so. Now it looks like I'm gonna have to find an even smaller space. Geesh.
Hello, multiple locos can go on one track, but can't be controlled independently of each other. My HST is technically 3 locomotives - the two driving cars at either end and the motorised buffet car near the middle.
im intrigued, but my cats would have a field day with something this small....i've been thinking about dropping from N to Z scale to better fit my 9 x 10 office
I think even N is very much at the mercy of cats! I haven't tried Z because of the cost and what happens to be available, but I think it's probably the best compromise on detail, practicality and what you can get into a space.
Funny you should say that - in the summer I visited Cadbury World at Bournville - in their museum section they have a model of the factory and surrounding town, which at the edge has a railway line. The track looked very much like T gauge track 🙂
If it hasn't already been suggested, as soon as I saw a model train this tiny, I thought it could make a good model within a model. Train-ception if you will. I haven't done the maths on it, but looking at it, isn't the ratio of HO/OO to T roughly the same as real life to the ride-on scale you see from time to time?
That's a great idea! There are a lot of comments on this video now, but I remember someone else saying they've done that, though I can't remember what the overall scale was, whether 00 or O.
There's no way I'm going to try taking this apart unless I really need to, but I suspect the motor is this one: www.tgauge.com/product/500/motor-with-gearbox
No - I've considered it a couple of times - the actual scale really appeals to me, but it doesn't have ready-to-run British outline trains that I want, and what I did find was a lot more expensive than N or T.
@@endoorrailway Fair enough. I was a life-long N scale user. In the fall I learned about T scale and was interested in buying, but the options are extremely limited here in Canada. $500 CAD + import to buy from the USA through Tgague. That's sort of when I decided to dabble with Z scale. Hard to find Z scale, but there are a few of the hobby shops that do carry it, and a few vendors at a twice-a-year flea market carry it. I didn't realize until this year that AZL and micro trains have the Canadian coach trains. I'm buying all my track from German sellers but I'm having fun building out my layout in the confined space. Far from finished, but the layout so far is much more reliable then any of my N scale layouts. The fact there are limited manufacturers of track (buying strictly Marklin track) ensures the track connects and works well together. My N scale layouts tend to be frankenstein with whatever track I can put together. I do plan on watching out for an opportunity to pick up a simple T scale layout.
Wow, I hadn't realised Z was more reliable than N - I just assumed it wouldn't be! I suspect for those who have resin 3D printers there's a lot of scope for custom stock in Z and T - there certainly look to be quite a few components available in T from which to do custom stuff, but that's way beyond my skills at the moment! Plus I don't have a 3D printer. I hope an opportunity comes your way then - it certainly seems to be the best option for something in a tight space that isn't a shunting diorama.
Well that's a great video you need patience of a saint to connect those couplers. How do they have room to put a motor in their I can't believe it just can't believe it you think it will burn out too soon? Coming from Japan pretty much expect quality..Why wouldn't they use magnets instead of couplers?. You work with z
Thanks, yes it's impressive! The motor is low voltage and the train is light, so I certainly hope it's not going to burn out! Yes magnetic couplers would be a lot easier.
It's fairly surprising how long it's been around, considering how few railway modellers seem to have heard of it. It's not going to be appealing to most people though, so I guess that translates into how much it gets mentioned.
@@endoorrailway I think I remember from many years ago but I thinks my confusion was how 0 gauge is bigger than 00 gauge. And deep in my memory I thought it was was the same with T and TT gauge. With the double letter one being the smaller. Thus the other way round. T for tiny. And TT for tiny tiny. Since this is 450:1
And here is an announcemnet, " Due to cutbacks, we'll be reducing the size of our trains..."
Lol, yes, though my wife sees it very much as _another_ railway and _more_ train buying!
That's what's happening here in ireland
Cutback in size but definitely in cost. Haha 😆
@@RichardKrummImagine what a train layout would look like on a microscope slide. The ultimate.
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I've never seen T Gauge running before so thank you for the post. All The Best. Cheers!
Thanks :)
I've heard of "Running a reduced service", but.....
Seriously, I just love seeing my favourite train (HST) in different sizes.
🤣 very good! Yes, it's very recognisably an HST, even at this size 🙂
I recently bought the T gauge HST. Amazed just how much detail they managed on such a tiny model. They even make an 08, although it’s out of stock at the moment.
Yes it's very impressive - hopefully I'll be able to make a railway that isn't too far off, but I'll struggle to actually get the detail quite as good!
Okey that´s just adorable. BUt I love tiny things they are so fascinating and when it´s this small it´s even something I could own in my small apartment.
Yes there's something fascinating about miniatures 🙂 It's definitely a good size for squeezing a bit of railway into a small space.
Love this. Just came across your video on T gauge. Can't wait for the next episode
Thanks, glad you like it 🙂
Greetings from a rail fan Yank in the Pacific Northwest. I was not previously familiar with your channel, and this is the first video of yours that has appeared in my recommended feed. It brought to mind memories of four decades or so ago, when I first discovered the existence of Z-scale train sets in one of my hometown's local hobby shops (back in the days when we actually had truly independent/locally-owned shops - and even more than one - rather than just a franchised location of a national corporate chain) as an adolescent/"tween" in the early '80s, and at the time, I thought they were pretty amazing.
Before I was born, or whilst an infant, my late father purchased at best a few pre-assembled or kit versions of rolling stock and track for a planned HO scale set that he never did anything further with. Like me, he was impressed with the diminutive size of Z-scale when it arrived, though it was prohibitively pricey then, and with limited offerings - so any thoughts of going in this direction also just remained on an unfulfilled wish list.
I wasn't even aware of T-scale being a thing now, and haven't investigated pricing of items in that range - but based your own comments and those of other viewers, it may be worthwhile for me to look into them at some point in the future - provided my eyesight and fine motor skills don't significantly decline 😆. With everything else that I have managed to collect over the years (and likely will have to start parting with), it seems like a far more manageable size than any other scale that I know of, particularly if my future living space must also decrease in size at some point.
Thank you for sharing your impressions of it with us - I look forward to seeing further developments!
Hi, thanks for sharing that interesting history of yours with model railways 🙂 T is definitely a good size for getting a model of a large scene into a small space, though overall how manageable it is to work with remains to be seen for me! The starter pack with a loop of track, controller and 2+2 HST pack, plus a separate 5-car HST extension pack came to around £330 here in the UK last year. On the whole track laying with slightly finer-scale flexi-track seems to be OK, but I haven't tried to make scenic things yet.
On the museum display layout, a G scale replica of the section of town including the railway Station, I have used T Gauge as a garden railway in one of the suburban back yards in a figure 8 for which I had to make the track at 3mm myself. I also included a turnout to the shed which took four attempts to make without causing derailments every time. I don't plan to do anything more than this in T gauge but I have added an N gauge with modified rollingstock, into the park section with G scale passengers riding on them.
That's quite the contrast in gauges, G to T! That does sound very fiddly, but it's a nice touch of detail and interest.
That would actually work quite well. I've seen N used to represent 7.25"/7.5" gauge before, so T would be a great pick for (roughly) representing G in G. Gception!
That's a great idea!
Yo dawg, I heard you like model railways, so I put a model railway inside your model railway!
I've been looking for this all over the Internet. I need pictures/videos. I really want to do something like this on my g scale layout.
They remind me of the tiny cars my mother used to buy me. Some I associated with my earliest birthday cakes. Others would fall to pieces on warm sunny days as I played with them outside the garage. They would have been perfect arranged around tea cups. Thank you for sharing your micro trains on this fridge winter day. Now youve got to get decals for them. Happy Christmas!
Hope you don't have any cats in the house!
There are no cats here, so they're safe 🙂 They're also kept in a separate room with the door always closed.
What a fantastic miniature train , T Gauge . You could make a really great landscape layout for these trains .
Yes - I think that's the big benefit - you lose detail in the model, but can model a much larger area.
OMG! Those are like Micro Machines but working trains! That's awesome!
It's mind-boggling, isn't it?! I never had train micro trains, but having recently (re-)seen them in the original Home Alone movie, I think T| might be a fair bit smaller 🙂
@@endoorrailwayLOL😂😂😂😂 if you took the t.set outside while charged on a picnic table a chipmunk 🐿️could jump on the table think it's a piece of food & try to eat the puny engine then spit it out 😖💨
Crazy but good! I build me a dream landscape on my WC!
That 7+2 HST set is what attracted me to the scale too. When coupling up, I suggest using a pair of tweezers to squeeze the couplers together. That locks them properly into place and lets you avoid any issues with one carriage being lifted off the track. You really have to keep the track and wheels clean, using tweezers again to pick the lint out from the gears and axles. Be careful when handling the power cars - never, ever pull on the bogies or you will stretch their attachment springs, so hold the bogie and body / chassis rigidly together when working on them. And get a pack or two of replacement springs the next time you place an order, just in case. Then sit back and watch the trains run!
Hi, those are loads of valuable tips there, thank you for taking the time to share them with me! It looks like you've done some impressive things in T gauge!!
Thank you. Building and running a medium sized layout such as your proposed Dawlish should be straightforward enough, but anything much beyond that becomes challenging (to put it mildly). I got cold feet after starting a 20 foot model of Ribblehead, and ended up taking a 90 degree turn into the Twilight Zone with my linear motor stuff and haven't looked back! To see what can be done in conventional T Gauge, however, you might want to track down Orbost and The Bridge.
Thanks - I've had a look around, and yes, they both look impressive! It shows just how small you have to go with the scale to make models of some of these awesome structures.
Very cool! I never realized T gauge was a thing.
Thanks for the upload! Good luck with the shelf....it sounds brilliant. Cheers from California
Thank you 🙂 It was a surprise to me a year ago, even though it turned out it had been around for many years, and RUclips is still finding plenty of people who haven't heard of it yet!
I love that spot in Devon. So lovely.
I'm tempted to get this as a desktop decoration, having a smol train weaving around my monitor stands would be pretty neat.
That would be awesome, though possibly distracting if you work from that desk!
Aw, that is sweet! I live in a small flat and have an N Gauge layout. Now thinking abaout a T Gauge one. Thanks!
N gauge is pretty good for small spaces, but it feels like you can get an awful lot more railway in with T :) I've yet to get cracking with any actual modelling at this scale though - we'll see how that goes!
Love the front at dawlish. I’ve not been since I was little. Thanks for an unexpected blast from the past :)
I really enjoy visiting Dawlish, and I think a lot of people have holidayed there as children. Glad you enjoyed the reminder 🙂
Very nice have seen other t gauge items more a novelty than a hobby 👍
Once I'd found out about this I was surprised at how many videos there are, and how long it's been around for. I can't deny it's got a novelty factor for me at the moment! 🙂
T SCALE FROM JAPAN
T scale 1:450 has been around since 2006. Introduced by Eishindo in Japan. Model Railways are the biggest indoor Hobby in Japan. Indeed there are more N scale modellers in Japan, than there are modellers of ALL scales up to Gauge 1 in the whole of the rest of the World 3.5 times over. With N gauge model fans now estimated at around 20 Million. N scale has traditionally had the biggest following due the average home in Japan being very small.
T - scale being the tinniest commercial scale currently, has attraction for Japanese model railway fans, because it is so small. You can build a complex layout on your kitchen table. Followers of the scale are hard to confirm, as many regular N scale modellers also have a T-scale interest. So figures of 500,000 T scale modellers in Japan, could be partially a duplicity !!!
Another reason for the huge interest in model railways in Japan is a Cultural result. In Japan the wife takes precedence over the husband within the home, on everything. So the wife has to deal with the Children's hobbies, and quite obviously every little boy needs a train set. Which "mum" is also expected to build !!! Hence even Supermarkets sell model trains !!!
Hi, wow that's really interesting and such a contrast to here in the UK! Model railway items in the supermarket - that's so awesome! Thanks for sharing :)
Interesting how it's mom there. I think for most people in the west it was their dad that got them into model trains.
@@endoorrailway T Scale was originally from Japan, but I can't find it there now for love nor money, and I live a 20 minute bike ride away from the second largest "otaku area" in the country, with tons of modelling shops, including at least 20 train specialists.
I'm not sure who makes T Scale now, I think it might even be a British company (I see prices in pounds even when visiting the site from Japan), which explains the various British trains on offer. Maybe one day I'll make a British or Japanese mini-layout. Perhaps a Hankyu line in the mountains or between Osaka and Kobe...
Also the train sets I've seen in supermarkets are all "Plarail", which is an unrealistic toy (though, no doubt, a gateway drug!) with cartoonishly-proportioned trains and blue plastic track which trains run in, not on. Bigger electronic shops like Yodobashi Camera have gigantic Plarail layouts over multiple levels.
Your plan for the T-scale models reminds me of a layout featured in a Railway Modeller magazine around 1973, under the title "watching the trains go by". The modeller used two long straight pieces of track along the front of their mantelpiece, the centre of the layout. At each end, a spiral arrangement inside the scenery allowed for the storage of several trains, which were each allowed to progress one section at a time, eventually running along the exposed sections. The timing was such that trains appeared at roughly scale timings and you could watch the trains go by.
That sounds really good, and a mantelpiece sounds like an ideal place for occasionally seeing a train go by! A couple of years ago I was wondering about some kind of automated end-to-end shuttle N gauge Christmas layout on my mantelpiece, but haven't done anything about it. Of course with T there's almost enough space for loops at either end to fit on there too.
I saw T gauge years ago at The York Model Railway Show, held at the York Race Cource. Over the Easter weekend.
I've found that I'm quite behind on what exists! Often Z is the smallest that's mentioned when I've seen comparisons of scales.
This is the size perfect for a Lego minifigure to use! Amazing!
Pain is part of the fun with Tgauge! I've had to service my trains, and taking off and on the springs from boogies to body is challenging without bending or deforming them! So I ordered a couple of backup springs with my next order, which is also good because they can be easily lost as well, much tinier than the trains themselves. Also be extremely careful when taking the train apart, I cracked my very first starter set train a couple years ago due to too much dust getting stuck in the gears, the plastic is very thin and brittle.
There are 2 impressive TGauge builders out there you can find on RUclips, MMBUFBerlin channel in general & Richard Kříž with his video "Whole build of T-gauge layout 1:480"
Thanks for the tips and channel recommendations! Someone else had mentioned springs, so I ordered some spares when getting some more track :)
To do a really good job of modelling Dawlish, you'll have to arrange for waves to break over the station! Very wet memories of waiting for the train there.
Lol, overtopping has certainly happened a lot over the years, but I've only chosen to visit in nice weather 🙂
RUclips JUST recommended this video to me. and I'm SO glad it did!
I've had N-Guage nearly all my life, since buying a Farish cattle truck, on holiday aged 5 years old!
T-gauge is properly mental though, I can't believe something that small works, it looks amazing.
BUT... my favourite part.... You have a Metroliner in the background!!!!! (My RUclips Channel is Lego based, and I do a lot of train videos!)
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I'm glad you liked the video and T gauge! I put the Lego train in as something of a recognizable scale - I've had that for about 30 years and it still works! (Though it spent a lot of those years not doing any work in an attic). Thanks for the subscription - I shall have to check your channel out too 🙂
😮 that is unbelievable small, I NEEEED IT!
Great video . One of the best in explaining T gauge train sets .
Thanks! That's kind of you to say so 🙂
Impressive train set! Great video 👍
Thank you 🙂
Hi Rick and Pauline,
I have followed your RUclips videos for a long time now and always enjoy them. Unfortunately we have never met but I very much hope that changes one day!
It would seem the furthest south you go and the furthest north I go, might just mean we could meet!
I was a railway guard for 22 years and have amassed a huge amount of knowledge and experience but don't ever like to boast about it.
I go to a great many railway shows and usually enjoy them (and often spend too much!).
I feel I am looking over your shoulder when you do your videos.
I will be at the Milton Keynes show this Saturday (my birthday!).
I guess it's too far away for you though.
With regards from Zoë Webb in Stevenage.
Hi Zoë, you address you comment to Rick and Pauline, so I'm not sure whether or not I'm the intended recipient of the message! I personally don't go to many railway shows at all, and decided when setting up this channel to keep my true identity anonymous. I enjoy giving and receiving helpful, interesting and encouraging comments though - I think it's one of the good things about the model railway RUclips community 🙂 Happy Birthday for Saturday! Jonathan
@@endoorrailway Oh, sorry I don't know what happened there. I have only ever sent a couple of comments out, looks like I've got things a bit mixed up somehow! Thanks for replying anyway.
Regards, Zoë.
Quite interesting. Back in the 1960's, dad and I ran HO, O and N gauge trains. He bought a set of TT gauge, tiny treble and ran it on the floor. It always derailed when going through the tunnel, but it was still fun.
Those sound like fond memories - hopefully my children will think back in a similar once they've grown up 🙂
@@endoorrailway They probably will. Dad and I also walked along the railroad tracks collecting spikes. I painted one gold
Thanks for the video, that train looks cool! I would like to watch Gomez Adams blow it up.
New favorite channel. Nice hobby mate.
Thanks 🙂
I like the idea of a Dawlish layout. I don't know if scenery is your forte or not ( I've only just come across your channel!), but it might be fun to extend the layout to include a tunnel or two more, eg: including Coryton Cove, (nice little beach, with the railway behind it popping out of the other end of Kennaway tunnel) There are some lovely interesting cliff formations around there including the Parson and Clark.
I don't think I've found a forte just yet! Lots of that coastal run looks great, you're right, but even in this scale it takes a lot of space to model much from real life. Possibly an extension in the more distant future, turning it into an 'L' shape to add more heading South through the sections you suggest.
I already thought it was crazy to hear the scale as a number, but to SEE it is another thing entirely. Barely bigger than a pencil and smaller than a lego minifig is wild
Yes, it's surprising it exists and works!
Just ONE little thing: forward view videos will be quite difficult until cameras are shrunk even further than they are now....
Yes, I think pen-sized "spy" cameras would be a bit unstable, and certainly wouldn't be able to pass another train on an adjacent line!
I'm currently working on 'U' gauge but I keep sneezing - weeks of work lost. ;o(
lol
As an HO junkie, I think N is tiny, T is just insane!
Yes, it's a lot smaller than HO!
Never see T gauge with British traction. I live in Dawlish, so I’ll be interested to see how this turns out .
Best of luck
Andy
Hi Andy, awesome - hopefully I'll do it justice! I've only ever visited, but it's a well-photographed area :)
I am an N Scaler too. I have a small collection of Z Scale but these T Scale trains are outrageous. Haha!!
Not sure if I'm ready for them because the detail really isn't there yet and like you, I've heard people having difficulty keeping them together and on the rails as well.
I think with a high-resolution 3D printer there are options for making the detail, but I've yet to brave the world of 3D printing! For me the detail is ok for a sort of "far off" view of the railway.
@@endoorrailway well I think the passenger set seems a little more realistic compared to the freight trains. Have you seen the freight sets? The locomotives lack way too much detail. They have the look of a very young child’s toy in comparison to the look of a real model, so to speak. lol
Ah yes - now that you mention it I do remember thinking something similar about some things I saw.
Hey Jonathan, this is insanely small! I love that there's an HST available at this scale! I must have seen similar videos to you, which had also piqued my interest, but I struggle to see the details in N gauge, so not sure my eyes would survive an encounter with a T scale layout! A Dawlish based layout on a shelf sounds like a great idea though, and I'll definitely await your progress with interest! All the best, Ian.
Hi Ian, yes, I think an HST is just the right thing for getting started with this. A (distant) future challenge will be to see if I can repaint another set into swallow livery (I'll need to seriously up-skill first though!!) There isn't a huge amount of detail to see - it's like looking at a railway from further away, but I imagine the camera will highlight all sorts of things that I can't actually make out in-person, so it could be interesting when it comes to making scenery and signals for this!
Thoughts on using a Tgauge within a g scale layout? A model railroad WITHIN a model railroad? If my math checks out, i think the Tgauge train would look close to a "g-scale" from the persepctice of the g scale people.
that could be in the window of a toy store in an O gauge layout. very cool running.
Yes, the difference in scale between those is huge! Thanks 🙂
As a kid i was always mystified by extra-tiny scale gauges that model railroad enthusiasts would build into their coffee tables.
This reminds me of those!
Yes, I know what you mean - I think I've seen Z gauge used for that.
T- gauge ha ha AMAZING, can't wait to see your new long oval layout, subbed oh I see! this Vid is Nine months old, I will look up your videos to catch with things
Thanks :) I doubt there's been as much progress as you'd expect for 9 months! My time on model railways is pretty small overall, and within that I'm more focussed on the N gauge. I've made a playlist for the Dawlish T Wall though for those who aren't interested in the N gauge bits.
@@endoorrailway even so, it will be nice to see what kind or not anything else that you do with the T-gauge
I brought one of these a few years ago. Like you. I found that mine derailled and the couplers didn't seem to be that good. But it's really good fun
Thanks for the comment - I'm glad to hear it's still really good fun after few years :)
*Bought.
N scale is small enough for me. I can barely see it let alone anything smaller... Still. This tiny little set is really cool!.
I think N scale (or 1:148 for UK stuff) is the ideal - lots of detail and features are possible whilst still getting a relatively large modelled area and length of trains, but I do enjoy the T too 🙂
@@endoorrailwayOkay. So would you use Z scale scenery and so forth if you built a layout or, are there T scale items available ?.
@@MarkWilliams-w8g There are some T scale scenic items, like buildings, cars, people, trees, but there aren't loads of things. I wouldn't use any buildings or such from a much larger scale like Z, but I think when it comes to flocks and scatters it has to be the same stuff, so the textures just aren't going to look as good up close. I found it difficult to choose what to use for track ballast (I made a video about that) - I think I settled on either tile grout or plaster - I'll have to look back at my notes when I come to do that!
1:450 scale is insane for train sets, it makes me wonder if there are 1:350 scale ones I could use for a shipyard model
I was shocked when I found out about it! I haven't seen anything about 1:350, but I only found out about T gauge because of a video RUclips put into my feed, so you never know.
I bought a similar set.
Problem I found is that not all the power cars run at the same speed. If the faster one is pulling, everything is fine. Go the other way and it soon derails.
Removing the central motorised carriage helped.
One power car can easily pull half a dozen or more coaches, with no derailment in either direction, so i might just try & remove the motorised drive from the other power car somehow so it just freewheels.
To be continued…
That's a good point - I haven't compared the speeds of the power cars. I have bought some non-magnetised wheels though, so help with reducing the rolling resistance on the trailing coaches - I haven't done anything with them yet though, and that wouldn't help if the motorised cars run at different speeds. It'll be interesting to see what you find - the rate at which I do stuff with my T gauge things is very slow!
very nice train set!
Thanks! It's surprisingly satisfying watching it go round - I'm very pleased with it so far :)
Not much chance of fitting sound chips in these I suppose?!!! I'm amazed how good the sound is in N considering.
I've wondered what might be possible - if it wasn't confined to just the loco I think it would be possible to get a specially-shaped board into a coach, and capacitors would be needed because the power to the tracks is in pulses rather than continuous... but I'm not sure a speaker that's small enough would sound very good, or be louder than the motor 🤣
That's fascinating, but I'd also expect it to have an even harder problem with dust, unless the room has an air filter.
Others who've run T Gauge a lot more than me say that keeping them meticulously clean is essential. My railway room is relatively dust-free because it's usually shut off from the rest of the house, but doesn't have an air filter.
That train is a choking hazard, lovely.
It's definitely not meant for little children. Larger scales aren't much safer, with all the little details that can come off.
@ Yes but it is simply too small to not enjoy.
Bit late but I don't think the issue is couplers. Both the front and rear units of the train are powered, as such, while taking a corner the rear kind of squashes out the mid-most carriages.
It's been a while since I published this video, but I still haven't actually done anything about that! Yes I think you're probably right - thanks for sharing your thoughts on that. I've bought non-magnetised wheels to reduce the drag of the train and wonder if I can swap the body on the powered buffet car with either the TGS or a TF to go next to a power car, then make one of the power cars into a dummy power car.
@@endoorrailway I think that would work, would be interested to see :)
If both of the locomotives are powered, the one running in reverse could be pushing the cars off the track. Try running forward without the other locomotive.
The theory I have is that both motors at either end is creating an accordion effect causing the cars to derail.
They could be, yes - because the wheels are magnetised the coaches don't roll nicely, but I wonder if having all the power cars in the middle of the train would work a lot better. Thanks for the comment 🙂
I have thought using T scale for a subway line below the city layout/.
That would be nice - it would allow you to make big buildings.
Coreless motors can be quite small. Recently they've become reasonably piwerful as a result of the growth of the tiny quadcopter market.
SMD LEDs help with the lighting.
Ah, it's the quadcopters driving the motor improvements - many scales of trains are benefitting from it 🙂 I bought some 0.3 by 0.6mm SMD LEDs a while back - it's amazing how much light cam come from such a small component!
@endoorrailway Oh yeah, if you look at those 100W+ COBs - they're basically a bunch of tiny SMD LEDs in a big package that can actually be used by a human.
Thinking about it... the diode junction itself is very very small, so there's no real need for it to be very big, other than to package it in a way that lets you mount/solder it in place. The big "traditional" ones are basically the same junction wrapped in more plastic and with longer leads. It's all really really cool 😁
It's incredible what miniature tech going into lots of everyday things, only then to be put into massive packaging. I watched a programme a while back on a channel called Veritasium about how it took a long time for blue LEDs to be invented because of all of the intricacies of getting photons to move in the right way.
I wonder if it'd be possible to use T gauge track with n gauge scale rolingstock to simulate narrow gauge, kind of how OO9 works?
Yes, I think that would probably just about work` - the scale is one-third of N, so it would be very narrow, but still believable.
The irony of T scale is that it’s almost as much smaller than G scale as G scale is smaller than the real trains. You could have a G scale layout and have G scale people playing with a T scale train.
Yes - a model in a model 🙂
Imagine all railways in the world just decide trains are too expensive and replace it with t gauge trains. Awesome video btw, I never even knew t gauge existed
I think these would struggle out in the elements! Thanks 🙂 The existence of T gauge took me by surprise too - it's been around for a while, but I didn't have a clue until about a year ago!
Cool. Unfortunately at my age I can barely see O Scale 😅
I think if O is a struggle then this probably wouldn't even register 😉
Shrinkflation model train set. So cool!
Much smaller product for slightly smaller, or similar, price... yep can't argue - that's shrinkflation 🤣
T Gauge is nuts! I've messed about with it since its introduction about 15 years ago but sadly never made anything too substantial with it
Wow, I didn't realise it's been around for that long - it took a long time for me to come across it!
Yeah, first went on sale back in 2007, it's just not massively mainstream or well publicised due to it's very small following and high costs - and in to this the fact that there are very few accessories for it compared to the larger scales which puts people off. If you have a 3d printer though, its perfect as you can pretty much design everything and print as many as you want (houses etc) because at this scale it just has to look right and proper details aren't a big deal
@@endoorrailway
That makes sense - I think I just got lucky that an available train is one that I like! In scale terms it's more expensive than N gauge, but in absolute terms it seems to be less expensive. Yes I've been thinking about the 3D printing possibilities, but getting a 3D printer and the associated equipment is a whole other venture that I don't think I'll be starting any time soon. I suspect I'll be tempted to eventually though :)
Wondering how one can enjoy a train one can hardly see. 😅. still a very nice peace of engineering. 😊
I think I can see these trains more clearly than I often see full-size trains on the real railway at distances I usually see them from... whether or not that will be the case with my eyesight in another 20+ years I don't know 😆
Wow, that is tiny!! Looking forward seeing how you progress with the T scale... and putting up a shelf!!
It is indeed! Yes... I'll have to build the layout somewhere accessible, so I can put off the terrifying prospect of the shelf for a while yet :)
I saw a t gauge model of the Forth Bridge once. It was huge. HST's and class 66's
Yes I've just watched a couple showing that - I guess it just goes to show how big that bridge is in real life!
The Forth Bridge was my handiwork....took three years to build but worth it. Took it to 25 exhibitions an was awarded 6 "best in Show" trophies....including BIS at ModelRail Scotland in 2017
Where did you find such an enormous pencil!
Lol 😆. That reminds me though, I did have one years ago - if you search "giant pencil" you'll find plenty of options - I guess they're considered a novelty Christmas gift!
@@endoorrailwayI recently priced a T gauge beginner set, with a two coaches, and three wagons, plus a beautiful F unit locomotive. It was a figure 8 within an oval. I could not justify the price. It was $615 CAN. How much did you pay for your T gauge.
The starter pack with a loop of track, controller and 2+2 HST pack, plus a separate 5-car HST extension pack (one of the cars being a motorised one) came to around £330 here in the UK last year, and I don't think the prices have changed much since then. According to Google that comes out at not much under $600 CAN, so it's not far off what you've found. When I last did a like-for-like comparison with N gauge, T gauge came out a fair bit cheaper in absolute terms, but obviously you get much smaller trains, so proportionally it's more expensive. N is usually less expensive than OO, and all of them a lot less expensive than Z... the key phrase here is "less expensive" as opposed to "cheap" - it's an annoyingly expensive hobby.
What voltage does it use? I've seen these little sterling engines with usb out. I've been desperately thinking of a use for one. And it would be a cool power source
The controller the set came with is pulse width modulation at 5 Volts, so USB would be powerful enough. I think that would be a super-cool way to power a T gauge set!
What about those interesting ideas for most of the Class 411 and that also includes those interesting Class 421 Very Very Loud 7 Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Transmission Train fans out there, rather than scrapping most of those Class 411 including the Class 421’s maybe you guys can convert them. Including rebuilding most of the brand new refurbishment into the Scania N112 Engine, Gardner 6LXCT Engine, Gardner 6LXC Engine, Volvo D10M Engine, Leyland TL11 Engine, Volvo B10M Engine, Leyland 510 Engine, Gardner 6LXB Engine, Gardner LG1200 Engine, Gardner 8LXB Engine, Class 411 and the Class 421 with a Very Very Loud 7 Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearboxes and converting and that will also be including building most of them into a Two Carriages and Three Carriages per units of the Class 411 and that is including those Class 421 Very Very Loud 7 Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Transmission for all of us Class 411 and Class 421 Diesel Train fans out there PLEASE. Are you still going to do this interesting type of Project? Class 411 and that will be rebuilding the brand new Class 421 Diesel Train Pretty PLEASE?
I don't know anything about class 411 or 421s, or any of the engines you mentioned. Once I've finished building the Dawlish T Wall layout I'm considering buying a second HST for it, so I can have trains running in each direction. Although there are plenty of other British locomotives and trains I like, both steam and diesel, it's the N gauge railway where I get those - I don't have the skill or equipment to build custom T gauge trains, and the other available ready-to-run models I've seen aren't ones that I'm interested in (well, I do like Class 08 shunters, but I'm not convinced about how the wheels and coupling rods on the T gauge one look, or how well it would work, or what it would be doing going along the sea wall at Dawlish).
Thanks for the demonstration!
I wonder if anyone has considered making the track a linear motor, so the rolling stock can be much simpler (thus smaller), with inductive pick-ups for the lights 🤔
They have indeed - check out www.youtube.com/@modelrailmusings5981 - he's done quite a lot with linear motor track, and made some impressive layouts and trains.
@endoorrailway Noice! Thanks!
So your HO layout can have a quarter scale model rr of it's own.
Yes, the difference is scales is significant!
As an O gauge modler, I am now looking to build a T gauge layout under a glass top coffee table .
That sounds good - it would be ideal for getting a decent amount of railway into that space. Going from O to T will be quite the contrast!
Do they make flexible track in T gauge? An end-to-end T gauge layout on an O gauge train of flat wagons would be quite something!
That would be a very novel kind of base! Yes, there's flexible track, but it doesn't sit flat - it has a corkscrew to it, so it needs to be firmly held by glue or pins, and any base needs enough weight to resist being lifted.
Sounds like it deserves a slightly different moniker - the ‘Devonshire (cream) T.’ Sorry - couldn’t resist! It’s a bit crazy just how small that thing is, though. As a OO modeler the mind boggles.
lol, yes that works quite well! Yes, I'm currently trying to figure out whether or not I can get colour signals to work, when the black bit with the lights in will need to be no more than 1mm wide - it's proving challenging!
I've seen a full length HST fly past me once. It was a tad longer than this one
HSTs most commonly had 8 coaches, but there were 7 and 9-coach formations too. The 9-coach ones I think were mostly on the East Coast routes, and the 7-coach ones on Cross Country ones - that certainly continued into the privatisation era of HSTs that I saw.
I actually have had a similar derailment experience with my N scale N700 Shinkansen (1/160 since Japan uses US standards for standard gauge equipment, their cape gauge equipment is 1/150), where longer trains are more prone to derailments. I think the issue is just trying to run those extra-long coaches on a tight loop of track like that.
Thanks for the tips - it seems I'll have to do some experimentation to see what minimum radius I can get away with.
1 engine may run slightly faster than another engine, make sure the fastest/most powerful is in the front, that way you avoid carts being pushed with too much force, it has helped many people@@endoorrailway
Thanks for the tip - I did wonder if something like that might be a factor. In my most recent order (arrived but not unboxed yet!) I've ordered some non-magnetised wheels to experiments with on the coaches - if I can get them to roll more freely I might be able to get away with fewer motorised vehicles in the train. I'm also considering swapping the body of the motorised buffet car for either the TGS or a First Class carriage to go right next to the power car. Just thoughts at this stage though!
I'm stunned at the size. Will there be any viable landscape acessories?
There are several things on tgauge.com, but I think overall there's not all that much choice, so scratch building will be the way to go since I don't have a 3D printer, but I've yet to discover if I can make things look any good at this scale!
There is a type of fixed coupler that allowing to join cars permanently
Ah, that's interesting - I'll have to have a look for that!
@@endoorrailway They are called 'Straight' type and marked P033 in the original Hong Kong catalogue -1 in Black and -2 in grey. You may want to try a few first, as they not go well with all types of cars, especially not the longer ones. It depends a lot on the curves used on your layout, as they also shorten the distance between cars - which does really improve the appearence as well.
Thank you very much for the information and advice - it's something I'll look into 🙂
What a great video - thank you and subbed.
Thanks, glad you like it and great to have you along 🙂
I built a Z gauge layout in a coffee table under glass about 15 years ago or so. Now it looks like I'm gonna have to find an even smaller space. Geesh.
A side table this time?!
Добрый день, подскажите, можно на один трэк использовать 2 локомотива?
Hello, multiple locos can go on one track, but can't be controlled independently of each other. My HST is technically 3 locomotives - the two driving cars at either end and the motorised buffet car near the middle.
im intrigued, but my cats would have a field day with something this small....i've been thinking about dropping from N to Z scale to better fit my 9 x 10 office
I think even N is very much at the mercy of cats! I haven't tried Z because of the cost and what happens to be available, but I think it's probably the best compromise on detail, practicality and what you can get into a space.
That'd be great for smaller scale models like models of towns in museums.
Funny you should say that - in the summer I visited Cadbury World at Bournville - in their museum section they have a model of the factory and surrounding town, which at the edge has a railway line. The track looked very much like T gauge track 🙂
If it hasn't already been suggested, as soon as I saw a model train this tiny, I thought it could make a good model within a model. Train-ception if you will. I haven't done the maths on it, but looking at it, isn't the ratio of HO/OO to T roughly the same as real life to the ride-on scale you see from time to time?
That's a great idea! There are a lot of comments on this video now, but I remember someone else saying they've done that, though I can't remember what the overall scale was, whether 00 or O.
Aaaw that is so adorable 🥰
I want to see the motor inside
There's no way I'm going to try taking this apart unless I really need to, but I suspect the motor is this one: www.tgauge.com/product/500/motor-with-gearbox
Is T-Gauge smaller than Marlkin Z Gauge ?
Yes - it's half the size of Z Gauge 🙂
@endoorrailway lovely video, thank you
Do you do any z scale?
No - I've considered it a couple of times - the actual scale really appeals to me, but it doesn't have ready-to-run British outline trains that I want, and what I did find was a lot more expensive than N or T.
@@endoorrailway Fair enough. I was a life-long N scale user. In the fall I learned about T scale and was interested in buying, but the options are extremely limited here in Canada. $500 CAD + import to buy from the USA through Tgague. That's sort of when I decided to dabble with Z scale. Hard to find Z scale, but there are a few of the hobby shops that do carry it, and a few vendors at a twice-a-year flea market carry it. I didn't realize until this year that AZL and micro trains have the Canadian coach trains. I'm buying all my track from German sellers but I'm having fun building out my layout in the confined space. Far from finished, but the layout so far is much more reliable then any of my N scale layouts. The fact there are limited manufacturers of track (buying strictly Marklin track) ensures the track connects and works well together. My N scale layouts tend to be frankenstein with whatever track I can put together.
I do plan on watching out for an opportunity to pick up a simple T scale layout.
Wow, I hadn't realised Z was more reliable than N - I just assumed it wouldn't be! I suspect for those who have resin 3D printers there's a lot of scope for custom stock in Z and T - there certainly look to be quite a few components available in T from which to do custom stuff, but that's way beyond my skills at the moment! Plus I don't have a 3D printer. I hope an opportunity comes your way then - it certainly seems to be the best option for something in a tight space that isn't a shunting diorama.
These have directional lighting? What is hornby doing for their 00 💀💀💀
Yes, that was a pleasant surprise! I don't keep up-to-date with what's happening in OO or Hornby.
Wow! Superb!👍👏👏♥️
Thanks 🙂
Is the other track N scale?
Yes - it looks huge by comparison, doesn't it?!
I've seen Z but never T
Yes it's small but a whole new experience, Dawlish would be great.
A new experience indeed! It'll be nice for long-ish trains to have some breathing space in their surroundings compared with Endoor.
Well that's a great video you need patience of a saint to connect those couplers. How do they have room to put a motor in their I can't believe it just can't believe it you think it will burn out too soon? Coming from Japan pretty much expect quality..Why wouldn't they use magnets instead of couplers?. You work with z
Thanks, yes it's impressive! The motor is low voltage and the train is light, so I certainly hope it's not going to burn out! Yes magnetic couplers would be a lot easier.
Already got it, it's great.
Probably still more reliable than the 1 to 1 scale😊
lol, yes quite possibly! 🤣
I had heard of TT but not T ....
Until now.
It's fairly surprising how long it's been around, considering how few railway modellers seem to have heard of it. It's not going to be appealing to most people though, so I guess that translates into how much it gets mentioned.
@@endoorrailway I think I remember from many years ago but I thinks my confusion was how 0 gauge is bigger than 00 gauge.
And deep in my memory I thought it was was the same with T and TT gauge. With the double letter one being the smaller. Thus the other way round.
T for tiny. And TT for tiny tiny. Since this is 450:1
God to rn as a line in the background on the layout to give perspective.
Which are the difference between T and Z gauge?
In terms of scale (which is the only thing I know about Z) the T gauge set I've got is a scale of 1:450, Z is a scale of 1:220