@@WorkshopAddict hey I think they must have changed the blade a bit recently mine seems really solid same mower mines the non self propelled version and I got it a week ago at Home Depot
Lightweight is good and what did I use it for it’s a lawnmower ruclips.net/user/postUgkxTPN04aT-Qdjr_KS3ql7ng8wnU3wwsCqk also recommend Yes it is lightweight so hence not as robust as our old one. But if you take care it does the job really well.
This mower with the 12ah flexvolt batteries gets it done. I elected for the manual without the drivetrain to save on weight. Just a fantastic piece of equipment. Keep the yard free of sticks and other debris and the blade out of the box is a champ. Excellent cut quality.
I have been researching battery mowers This is one of the best reviwes I have watched . Straight to the point without all the blah blah blah, on some channerls You hit all the points that would matter to me.. Very infromative, thanks.
Great review. All of the negatives like pushing the mower easily without the motor running and front wheel drive is fine until the weaight of with grass causes the front wheels not to contact the yard that you mentioned are important critiques. I have everything Dewalt, but I chose the Toro 60v flex force, which uses one battery that charges in half an hour and is rear wheel drive and pushes easily without the motor on.
This comment just out me off buying I agree with everything he just said sucks to deal with End up holding the grass uo higher with the handle and having to “carry” the weight just so the front wheels stay level so you get the correct cut wheels back down hmmm
Basically it’s a really nice mower for a small yard owner who mows frequently and doesn’t allow the grass to over grow. If you have a larger yard. You’ll get less cut off one charge an you have to also make sure your yard doesn’t overgrow. If you live in a city an have a 10,000 sqft lot buy this mower so you never have to buy any gas. An it’s cut quality is just as good as a gas powered.
I have the Push Model without the Self propel and I just finished a video showing it Cutting Massive 4 foot tall crab grass and pretty heavy grass and It did it with No issues it only stalled 2 times but the grass was dense packed I was very impressed I did notice there is no protection for the batteries from water I washed the mower with the hose and it will not turn on now so I'm leaving it in the sun to let it dry I don't like putting my lawn equipment away dirty good maintenance helps and keeping it clean does help will see if it starts back up I put 2 6ah flex volt batteries and all the Grass I cut and the height the grass was i was impress it only used 1 bar on each battery... Brian good video as always bro @WorkshopAddict
That is the main reason I tell people to buy tool branded OPE is so they get larger and more batteries for their tools. Why spend big money on another battery brand for OPE and then pay again when that battery dies.
For $50 more, I got the Greenworks pro 60-volt 25" rear drive self propelled. I prefer the rear drive on this mower over all the other mowers I had that were front drive. This is my first electric mower.
It's dual blade and cuts great. The batteries are huge and with two 4ah batteries, I can cut my lawn and not even get to the second battery. My lawn is probably about the size of that first big patch you cut. It has more than enough power to cut the grass I got and I live in West Virginia. We have thick green grass up here. If I let mine get as high as your worst case scenario, It would be hard to cut with my gas mower. The only downside to my mower, is that it doesn't have side discharge.
@@josephpuchel6497 Straight from their website. It's normally $749 but It's on sale for $599 right now. www.greenworkstools.com/pro-60v-brushless-25-inch-lawn-mower-2531502
@@WorkshopAddict that doesn't make sense, the two 20V 10ah XR batteries should run no hotter than the two flexvolt 20V/60V 9ah batteries. In fact, the bigger packs should be running cooler because bigger packs can handle more amp draws. The triple layer construction of the flexvolt should have nothing to do with heat dissipation or amp draw.
Front wheel vs rear wheel drive makes no difference to me in use. Front wheel seems logically better so I can turn around as I lift the front wheels up and its not peeling out on my grass, but in use, it hasn't really mattered much. But I think front wheel drive actually makes more sense.
Excellent review and information. I had a lawn service and it gets expensive at 2 cuts a month. In the summer (SE Florida) the grass gets super thick and tall so the once a week cut really adds up. I have a small property, 20 mins run time would be way more than I need. Since I have almost every Dewalt 20 max tool it makes sense to get a Dewalt mower being that I have batteries and chargers. I have the Dewalt blower and hedge trimmer so now I need the mower and string trimmer. I figure I'm going to need to spend $600. The mower with two batteries and the "tool only" string trimmer.
You can, and have too. That won't work for those who want to cut without assistance and it can be a long push for those who ran out of battery far from their garage.
In Canada @Home Dept these are $699 & $799 CDN. They only seemed to become more available this Spring as a replacement for the older model. Seeing most ppl will use them on a suburban lot of the 60’x110’ plus or minus the advertised 70 minute runtime will be more than enough. Most city dwellers cut their grass long before it gets to a great height & will only take a 1/2 to 1” cut so here again even at 3/4hr. runtime it will likely be a good choice. Initial price in Canada maybe a drawback but no gas/oil & little maintenance along with compact storage will help make up the difference over a gas model. Good video review & thanks for you thoughts.👍👌🙏🇨🇦
Too bad they don't sell these mowers without batteries. I already have plenty of batteries, and a couple of Flexvolt ones as well. My next mower will be battery powered, and I'll most likely go with a non-self propelled Dewalt with the larger rear wheels. I just use my push mower to trim around the border of my lawn and around the trees and stuff like that, I mow the rest with my lawn tractor. I'd like to get the Dewalt 20V weed eater too, just getting tired of dealing with buying gas. My lawn tractor will have to remain gas powered as I run a snow blower on it in the winter, electric model doesn't have a PTO to run the snow blower. I have the Cub Cadet XT1 42" lawn tractor. 4th season with it and no issues at all mowing about an acre every week and other chores around the property, and a few snow blower uses during the winter.
I understand your points about buying this if not intending to utilize the self drive feature, but is it bad for the mower's drive system if i DO NOT use self drive system?
Yes, I still like steel decks. I like that plastic won't rust, but I also know that the plastic mower won't last more than 5 years, so why do I care that it won't rust. I like a sturdy deck that won't flex.
I’ve cut my quarter acre lawn 2 times already in pretty thick stuff and the batteries are only one bar down I have the non self propelled version and I love it
Do you have the newer version of the non self propelled version? I am trying to decide which DeWalt electric mower to buy: self propelled or non self propelled. Is the non self propelled easy to push? I am a 5’4” woman.
I’m thinking about a new mower. Currently using a Toro Super Recycler. But every year in the fall, I get a ton of leaves in my largish yard. Neighborhood has a lot of giant oak and maple trees. My Toro breaks something under the mower every time I mulch or bag the leaves. This year the drive belt came halfway off the drive pulley and remains in that spot causing smoke and stink from the belt. It is hidden enough, I can’t get to it to fix it. Every year a different problem. The trees drop a lot of limbs both large and small and acorns. I thought about an electric, but I don’t know yet. They might not be rugged enough to handle my leaf problem. I’m in research mode currently.
@@forrestweldon9168 It actually does. I've got about 12k sq feet mowable and I'm getting this one since I've read many comments confirming the 9ah batteries, for example, fit in this mower's sockets. Since I have some Flexvolt batteries with my DeWalt tools, I decided to purchase this mower today ahah
So I let a friend use mine to scalp his lawn but it was over 3-4” tall. He had the mower at lowest height & he choked out the motor by mowing to fast. Now my mower won’t start at all. Batteries are good & everything is cleaned. Any suggestions?
Great, thorough review and super timely I was just checking out the new version at the depot today 👍🏼 These mowers are based directly off the MTD line (ie troy built) push mowers. Much like my Honda powered Troy built looks like bagging performance is pretty poor in thick lawns, only a hi lift blade gets it done for me but would be hard on batteries. The height adjustment on these decks is so so easy, but mine is already pretty well worn at two years with the plastic detents and the stamped levers get flimsy.
@@WorkshopAddict Only a few times a year on mine which is the concerning part. It sees wear and tear just from the weight of the mower getting pushed, rocked, banged around during use. It’s a weak part of these mowers and leads to a lot of the negative reviews of the various branded versions out there, as apparently they loosen up so much a lever can skip a detent and the deck can drop to the ground mid cut. It was cheap, though. The cheapest I could get with a Honda engine in fact so I can’t be too hard on it. The battery power plant is lighter so this may help!
That explains a lot. DeWalt's parent company, Stanley Black&Decker, now owns MTD. Still pretty disappointing they'd slap the DeWalt name on an MTD mower.
Both are good. The question to me comes down to if you want to invest in a battery platform with tools and outdoor power equipment or just outdoor power equipment. Runtime will be better on the Toro mowers, but you don't have tools for the batteries.
Thanks for the information, I have just bought one and wasn't sure if I was doing something wrong over the run time. I am pleased with the cut but have to recharge the batteries a number of times to cut the grass
I'm looking at both too but torrid battery run time is only 40 minutes...20 less than this. And online the torrid battery is over $300 to $400... which is crazy expensive...
3 hours to cool down and re-charge? The dcb107 chargers are ~1.5amp chargers depending on where I've read it. (Some sites say 1.3amps.) 10/1.5 =6.66 hours to charge. My dad got this mower so I gave him a pair of spare dcb115 (4amp chargers)
So, I believe that the batteries are giving a false empty when being used hard in the mower. So by the time they cool down and charge, they register half full again.
@@WorkshopAddict That sounds about right. I got the same issue with the gen1 mower and the 5ah batteries it came with. They would report empty when really they were overheated. They'd get a bar or 2 back after cooling.
Just bought the newer (and higher priced) version (DCMWSP255Y2) of this mower and not sure yet if (or to what extent) I will like or dislike it. When I brought it home (new) from Homey Depot and the "safety key" was missing. Took it back for exchange or adjustment, and they had to give me a key from another unit in stock. Returned home and tried running it on a clean & dry surface... indoors, and the dog was not amused. I adjusted the thumbwheel for the drive to its slowest setting; when the triggers were squeezed all the way... the thing just plain boogies at a fairly high speed. I guess I will need to learn to avoid squeezing them as much. I think it will work out for me, but time will tell (not quite there yet... baby steps).
Dewalt dropped the ball on this mower. I’d say the first gen dewalt mower without self drive was better. They should make a dual battery flex volt mower off the first gen mower with self drive. That would be a hit.
Great video! I might end up getting one! Just one question.. like how you said if the batteries die and you are stuck somewhere and can’t use the self propelling to get the mower back to charge the batteries, why not just take the batteries out and go charge them and leave the mower there?
You complained about the wheels giving resistance when it's off and you try to push it. You do realize it is front wheel drive only and you can easily push the handle down until the front wheels are off the ground right?
You are right. the reason I brought up the resistance is that many people purchases these, or want to purchase a SP mower, but do not want to use the SP all the time. They just want to push it and this mower is a bad choice for that person due to the resistance.
@@WorkshopAddict This is why more companies need to start using AWD on their mowers. Or at least use Rear wheel drive. One thing I love on some of Toros and craftsman walk behind mowers is their personal pace package. It adjusts to your walking pace. I wish more mowers had that feature.
204 by 204 is an acre..... But remember, my grass was crazy long and I went for worse case with the testing. I would rather have people who are overly happy than sad by the purchase. They are 20-volt batteries that are 10Ah each.
The only thing I didn't like is it takes to long for the batteries to change. I have a half acre yard and I have a DeWalt 60 volt trimmer so I bought an extra battery and ordered an extra charger to get more run time. I still had to stop multiple times on my half acre lawn due to batteries running out of power. The one I bought isn't self propelled.
Excellent video. Just bought this mower. Have not used it yet. Is there a real advantage to using the flex volt batteries on this lawn mower.dcb609 is what I had in mind but not sure if for the price there is a real benefit? Thank you for time.
Yeah I have a weedeater and lots of other tool and it drains 20v batteries pretty quick. Great for simple quick but if you are doing high load big cuts it drains the battery quick. High demand jobs definitely need higher voltage. 20v has its place but high drain is really hard on lower voltage. For my experience.
JUST bought one from eBay seller this week. Picked it up locally just 2 miles from my house. Unfortunately, it didn't come with batteries or charger. Oh well, what do you want for only $140 NEW !!!
Solid video info…Dewalt needs to send a min of flexvolt 9ah with these mowers. The 12ah are the best choice. They should learn from Milwaukee, they would pair it with a 12ah.
@@WorkshopAddict that’s fair, on the m18 miter saw it specifically states 15ah corded power using 12AH HD M18 battery. but I appreciate the flexibility of being able to use other batteries as necessary. I typically use a 5ah in my 40V Ryobi push but I’ve dropped a 2ah to get the job done. Noticeably less power but imagine if they required it to have 4ah +. Not useful. They should just be more clear in the manuals as to the effect of ah
I'd love it, if the mowers came with a pair of 12ah flexvolts, but to get to the $400 price point (needed to be price competitive with Ryobi and others and still have some profit margin) I don't think that could be done with flexvolts. So they made some new high capacity 10ah batteries, which are probably cheaper than flexvolts.
Nice review but my 5 year old Ego is head and shoulders above this as far as usability and battery longevity (especially with the new batteries available). Ego does make a steel deck and I thought about it but I live in a very humid climate and the damp grass will, eventually, as it sits inside the deck, promote eventual rust so I stayed with the plastic composite deck. Also, Ego does have all of the tools available for yard work all using the same batteries and has been producing them for many years so there is that history. To be fair, however, I do stay with DeWalt for all of my battery tools (impact, drill, recip saw, etc.)
@@WorkshopAddict Yes, I do, love it! No maintenance other than changing, or sharpening, the blade on occasion. :) Oh, and keeping the batteries charged up.
Might be a dumb question here, but I have the 4 port fast charger for the 20v batteries and this battery looks pretty big. Do you think the 10ah will fit on the charger?
I was very Disappointed that it came with 2 1.25amp hour slow chargers wish the Unit had better protection against water so it was easier to wash and clean after use @WorkshopAddict
I think I figured out Dewalt's logic on the self propel. When the handle is folded down, the mower can be picked up and wheeled around on its rear wheels. Dewalt probably expected you would wheel it out, unfold it, mow, fold it up and wheel it away.
Nice video thanks for all the important info... just 1 question where and when did you find this model for 499.00 ..I bought mine at home depot fof 549.00 on dec 15th? Just wondering
Well glad to see it cuts well, but disappointed in the front wheel drive and if those batteries get that hot they likely won't last long. Seems like this is aimed at the bottom of the market which is a bit of a surprise from DeWalt. It is made (or assembled) in the US though and it is an American company (Stanley Black&Decker), that's a big plus in my book.
All of my lawns are overgrown and my runtime testing suffers because of that. It makes for great worse case senarios... I did do the tests and frankly, the 9Ah FV Batts give the same runtime with less heat as I mentioned in the video. The 12Ah Batts gave me 9 more minutes in heavy use. Is that worth the 300 plus bucks? No, but I you have them, use them.
@@WorkshopAddict that makes sense bro. Whenever I use a flexvolt battery in a 20v tool I get more runtime and the battery is cooler. I always see people in the comments saying there is no difference and have even pointlessly gotten in heated discussions about it. 🤣
Great review, thanks. I plan to purchase a DeWalt mower once my gas mower dies. I like that I can use my FV batteries on this mower and those two 20V 10Ah can power my 71/4" DeWalt mitre saw.
I would say I did worse case scenario on my vid3o today and in a sense abusing this mower by cutting 3 plus foot tall crab grass that was super dense but I was impressed on how well it handled it @WorkshopAddict
Great informative video as always. My question is , and this is to ALL of the manufacturers that make battery operated lawnmowers , some more than others.........is why ? Not picking on this particular DeWalt mower , but realistically , how much more would it have cost DeWalt to throw in the dual fast charger with the larger flexvolt batteries ? $25 $50 $75 ??? As long as it's not much more than that ( I assure you it's not much more at all ) the informed buyer will pay it and will only make your product look better . Let's all be honest , the real problem for the most part is these manufacturers are depending on us the consumers to be wanting just a little more out of our purchase and go out and purchase what should have came with the mower in the first place , and all of us know extras and accessories is where the real profit is. So that being said , if you buy this DeWalt mower , you are more than likely already on the Dewalt platform and have the disease which most of us are infected with , which is called the , " I spend money on the latest and greatest shit I don't need disease " ....which by the way is extremely contagious. So now $499 mower quickly turns into $700 -$800. Again , I'm not picking on DeWalt , because THEY ARE ALL GREEDY #+$@ suckers who know how to exploit our sickness. I personally have the select cut Ego which is like the Dewalt , it has both good and bad too !!! But , if you tinker around with the blades......trust me , you can get a lot more run time and better cutting out of it. Unfortunately I cannot say what or how because I don't want to be responsible for someone cutting off something they were born with. I appreciate you understanding why I kept this comment so short.
I think most purchases for these mowers are made in the store and the manufacturers know that there will be other brands at different price points and they compete to beat the other brands rather than compete for the educated consumer.
@@WorkshopAddict very well said , and although very sad.......as you said they also most certainly target the uninformed buyer. However they have to know that more and more consumers are looking to channels like yours for honest unbiased information in order to get the most bang for their buck. I would like to see this mower with two 12ah flexvolt batteries in a side by side comparison with the version that you tested to compare runtime as well as battery temperature and to see if on a good hot day the flexvolts also need to cool before charging. Also , how hard would it be to use some of the airflow under the deck to somehow push some air around the batteries ? Just saying.....
@@donnysanner342 I did run 9Ah flexvts and 12Ah flexvolts in this and both would charge immediately after use with no thermal timeout. 12ah got 11 minutes more runtime in the heavy grass 9ah was about the same and 10ah 20 volts.
Most people will just throw the batteries on the charger when they're done mowing. And charging the batteries slower is actually better for them. So I can see the reason for a slow charger with this.
Not a big fan of the front wheel drive. Too much wheel spin, most of the weight of mower is towards the rear. On front wheel drive mowers I always have a hard time mowing a straight line cause the mower wants to slide around to much to get traction. I think Dewalt also makes a Rear wheel drive version now.
Worst case scenario my brother's is over 12 inches
LOL. That's Long.
@@WorkshopAddict hey I think they must have changed the blade a bit recently mine seems really solid same mower mines the non self propelled version and I got it a week ago at Home Depot
Lol lol
@@WorkshopAddict where do you buy the dewalt cordless mower
Mine's only 3”. Not bad for its width, to make mine 24”s, I just fold it in half! Lol🤣😂
Lightweight is good and what did I use it for it’s a lawnmower ruclips.net/user/postUgkxTPN04aT-Qdjr_KS3ql7ng8wnU3wwsCqk also recommend Yes it is lightweight so hence not as robust as our old one. But if you take care it does the job really well.
This mower with the 12ah flexvolt batteries gets it done. I elected for the manual without the drivetrain to save on weight. Just a fantastic piece of equipment. Keep the yard free of sticks and other debris and the blade out of the box is a champ. Excellent cut quality.
I have been researching battery mowers This is one of the best reviwes I have watched . Straight to the point without all the blah blah blah, on some channerls You hit all the points that would matter to me.. Very infromative, thanks.
Great review. All of the negatives like pushing the mower easily without the motor running and front wheel drive is fine until the weaight of with grass causes the front wheels not to contact the yard that you mentioned are important critiques. I have everything Dewalt, but I chose the Toro 60v flex force, which uses one battery that charges in half an hour and is rear wheel drive and pushes easily without the motor on.
Great point!
The Toro is currently my favorite. I love the personal pace drive. If they made it in a Super Recycler version I'd be all over it.
This comment just out me off buying I agree with everything he just said sucks to deal with
End up holding the grass uo higher with the handle and having to “carry” the weight just so the front wheels stay level so you get the correct cut wheels back down hmmm
Basically it’s a really nice mower for a small yard owner who mows frequently and doesn’t allow the grass to over grow. If you have a larger yard. You’ll get less cut off one charge an you have to also make sure your yard doesn’t overgrow.
If you live in a city an have a 10,000 sqft lot buy this mower so you never have to buy any gas. An it’s cut quality is just as good as a gas powered.
I have the Push Model without the Self propel and I just finished a video showing it Cutting Massive 4 foot tall crab grass and pretty heavy grass and It did it with No issues it only stalled 2 times but the grass was dense packed I was very impressed I did notice there is no protection for the batteries from water I washed the mower with the hose and it will not turn on now so I'm leaving it in the sun to let it dry I don't like putting my lawn equipment away dirty good maintenance helps and keeping it clean does help will see if it starts back up I put 2 6ah flex volt batteries and all the Grass I cut and the height the grass was i was impress it only used 1 bar on each battery... Brian good video as always bro @WorkshopAddict
Been subscribed and watching all your vids for so long, your in great shape now! Keep it up!!!
A very good review. Covered many topics I was not familiar with. I generally prefer DeWalt no questions asked.
It's great seeing you covered. DeWalt I can't wait to see how you cover their new snow blower!
Just got an Ego mower. Pretty happy with it. Was thinking about doing dewalt as it's what I use in my tools, but I don't have the large batteries.
That is the main reason I tell people to buy tool branded OPE is so they get larger and more batteries for their tools. Why spend big money on another battery brand for OPE and then pay again when that battery dies.
I used to have a front Craftsman mower that became really intuitive to use. Just leave the drive engaged, and turn on the rear wheels.
Great explanation about the mower. Thx for looking out for us home owners that are 60+. Definitely subbed! 😊
Buy the propelled or push?
For $50 more, I got the Greenworks pro 60-volt 25" rear drive self propelled. I prefer the rear drive on this mower over all the other mowers I had that were front drive. This is my first electric mower.
It's dual blade and cuts great. The batteries are huge and with two 4ah batteries, I can cut my lawn and not even get to the second battery. My lawn is probably about the size of that first big patch you cut. It has more than enough power to cut the grass I got and I live in West Virginia. We have thick green grass up here. If I let mine get as high as your worst case scenario, It would be hard to cut with my gas mower. The only downside to my mower, is that it doesn't have side discharge.
Hey Where did you get your Greenworks Pro ?? How’s the blade on them . Thanks for the info
@@josephpuchel6497 Straight from their website. It's normally $749 but It's on sale for $599 right now.
www.greenworkstools.com/pro-60v-brushless-25-inch-lawn-mower-2531502
This is me mowing with it.
ruclips.net/video/eDXVWSVhlLE/видео.html
Thank you for the incredibly comprehensive video. Also you’re looking slim and trim my man. Keep it all up. You’re doing a great job
Are the 10amp batteries the same size as the 6 and 8amp batteries
Yes they are
So the flexvolt 9amp battery didn’t get hot? And how’s the run time compared to the 10amp battery?
It still got warm, but not hot. Runtime is actually the same, or so close it is hard to tell with the differences in grass height.
@@WorkshopAddict that doesn't make sense, the two 20V 10ah XR batteries should run no hotter than the two flexvolt 20V/60V 9ah batteries. In fact, the bigger packs should be running cooler because bigger packs can handle more amp draws. The triple layer construction of the flexvolt should have nothing to do with heat dissipation or amp draw.
Front wheel vs rear wheel drive makes no difference to me in use. Front wheel seems logically better so I can turn around as I lift the front wheels up and its not peeling out on my grass, but in use, it hasn't really mattered much. But I think front wheel drive actually makes more sense.
Unless you are a bagger.... With the weight in the back, you lose traction to the front.
Excellent review and information. I had a lawn service and it gets expensive at 2 cuts a month. In the summer (SE Florida) the grass gets super thick and tall so the once a week cut really adds up. I have a small property, 20 mins run time would be way more than I need. Since I have almost every Dewalt 20 max tool it makes sense to get a Dewalt mower being that I have batteries and chargers. I have the Dewalt blower and hedge trimmer so now I need the mower and string trimmer. I figure I'm going to need to spend $600. The mower with two batteries and the "tool only" string trimmer.
Excellent breakdown. I bought one and used your instructions to set it and start it.
Are the rear wheeels freewheeling ...if so why can't you just tip the unit so the front wheels are off the ground to transport without cutting
You can, and have too. That won't work for those who want to cut without assistance and it can be a long push for those who ran out of battery far from their garage.
@@WorkshopAddict So if you run out of batteries on the other ones you don't have to do the same thing. ie long push to the garage
Man I am loving that gearwrench cart you got back there. Any chance of a shop tour?
I have a mess in the shop now with the new office build and spring coming and us moving all the cars out of storage. We do have a video on the cart.
Can I fit 2 of the new 15 amps flex volt batteries?
the 60v fits 20v tools will 2 60v batteries fit in the battery bay?
Can you mix match batteries to use the lower or do you have to use to exact same size battery?
You can mix, but it will drain both batteries at the same rate, so you are only as good as your smallest battery.
Dewalt 20v uses the 27000 larger cells like M18 HO?
21700, yes
I have two 20v max 5ah batteries. Will the mower work adequately for my small lawn?
No. It will overheat them and cause premature battery failure. They are too small.
In Canada @Home Dept these are $699 & $799 CDN. They only seemed to become more available this Spring as a replacement for the older model. Seeing most ppl will use them on a suburban lot of the 60’x110’ plus or minus the advertised 70 minute runtime will be more than enough. Most city dwellers cut their grass long before it gets to a great height & will only take a 1/2 to 1” cut so here again even at 3/4hr. runtime it will likely be a good choice. Initial price in Canada maybe a drawback but no gas/oil & little maintenance along with compact storage will help make up the difference over a gas model. Good video review & thanks for you thoughts.👍👌🙏🇨🇦
Too bad they don't sell these mowers without batteries. I already have plenty of batteries, and a couple of Flexvolt ones as well. My next mower will be battery powered, and I'll most likely go with a non-self propelled Dewalt with the larger rear wheels. I just use my push mower to trim around the border of my lawn and around the trees and stuff like that, I mow the rest with my lawn tractor. I'd like to get the Dewalt 20V weed eater too, just getting tired of dealing with buying gas. My lawn tractor will have to remain gas powered as I run a snow blower on it in the winter, electric model doesn't have a PTO to run the snow blower. I have the Cub Cadet XT1 42" lawn tractor. 4th season with it and no issues at all mowing about an acre every week and other chores around the property, and a few snow blower uses during the winter.
good to see that they improved upon the older model.
I understand your points about buying this if not intending to utilize the self drive feature, but is it bad for the mower's drive system if i DO NOT use self drive system?
No, it will disengage so no big deal.
@@WorkshopAddict thanks much for your timely reply. Take care
Do you prefer the steel decks? I wasn’t sold on plastic but I appreciate the weight savings after having used one for a couple years now.
Yes, I still like steel decks. I like that plastic won't rust, but I also know that the plastic mower won't last more than 5 years, so why do I care that it won't rust. I like a sturdy deck that won't flex.
Plastic doesn't rust, helpful. Plastic may brittle over time, we shall see.
I’ve cut my quarter acre lawn 2 times already in pretty thick stuff and the batteries are only one bar down I have the non self propelled version and I love it
I told everyone I went with a worse case testing scenario.
Do you have the newer version of the non self propelled version? I am trying to decide which DeWalt electric mower to buy: self propelled or non self propelled. Is the non self propelled easy to push? I am a 5’4” woman.
@@vickilar5422" Anything I can do, you can do too"
I’m thinking about a new mower. Currently using a Toro Super Recycler. But every year in the fall, I get a ton of leaves in my largish yard. Neighborhood has a lot of giant oak and maple trees. My Toro breaks something under the mower every time I mulch or bag the leaves. This year the drive belt came halfway off the drive pulley and remains in that spot causing smoke and stink from the belt. It is hidden enough, I can’t get to it to fix it. Every year a different problem. The trees drop a lot of limbs both large and small and acorns.
I thought about an electric, but I don’t know yet. They might not be rugged enough to handle my leaf problem. I’m in research mode currently.
I purchased one last weekend. It works well for my needs. I already had 4 9ah flexvolts though. The 10ah are minimal like he said.
Do the flexvolt batteries fit the chamber? Curious before my purchase
@@forrestweldon9168 It actually does. I've got about 12k sq feet mowable and I'm getting this one since I've read many comments confirming the 9ah batteries, for example, fit in this mower's sockets. Since I have some Flexvolt batteries with my DeWalt tools, I decided to purchase this mower today ahah
Hey whats it mow like with wet grass?
Did you try runtime with 9ah flexvolt
I ran it with two of them and they run much cooler in battery temps and last longer. It's in there and it is a long video. Sorry.
So I let a friend use mine to scalp his lawn but it was over 3-4” tall. He had the mower at lowest height & he choked out the motor by mowing to fast. Now my mower won’t start at all. Batteries are good & everything is cleaned. Any suggestions?
Great review !
Price ?
Is the battery the same used as their drills?
Great, thorough review and super timely I was just checking out the new version at the depot today 👍🏼 These mowers are based directly off the MTD line (ie troy built) push mowers. Much like my Honda powered Troy built looks like bagging performance is pretty poor in thick lawns, only a hi lift blade gets it done for me but would be hard on batteries. The height adjustment on these decks is so so easy, but mine is already pretty well worn at two years with the plastic detents and the stamped levers get flimsy.
How often do you change your cut height?
@@WorkshopAddict Only a few times a year on mine which is the concerning part. It sees wear and tear just from the weight of the mower getting pushed, rocked, banged around during use. It’s a weak part of these mowers and leads to a lot of the negative reviews of the various branded versions out there, as apparently they loosen up so much a lever can skip a detent and the deck can drop to the ground mid cut. It was cheap, though. The cheapest I could get with a Honda engine in fact so I can’t be too hard on it. The battery power plant is lighter so this may help!
That explains a lot. DeWalt's parent company, Stanley Black&Decker, now owns MTD. Still pretty disappointing they'd slap the DeWalt name on an MTD mower.
What is bad about the batteries running hot?
Should l go with this powerful Dewalt or a Toro electric mower?
Both are good. The question to me comes down to if you want to invest in a battery platform with tools and outdoor power equipment or just outdoor power equipment. Runtime will be better on the Toro mowers, but you don't have tools for the batteries.
Thanks for the information, I have just bought one and wasn't sure if I was doing something wrong over the run time. I am pleased with the cut but have to recharge the batteries a number of times to cut the grass
you should return it.
i have this one and it died in 10 minutes... What battery should i buy to extend the mowing time?
Will 15ah FlexVolt batteries fit?
Thank you!
Which one do you prefer Dewalt or the 60v Toro
Toro is the better lawn mower for cut quality.
I'm looking at both too but torrid battery run time is only 40 minutes...20 less than this. And online the torrid battery is over $300 to $400... which is crazy expensive...
3 hours to cool down and re-charge? The dcb107 chargers are ~1.5amp chargers depending on where I've read it. (Some sites say 1.3amps.) 10/1.5 =6.66 hours to charge. My dad got this mower so I gave him a pair of spare dcb115 (4amp chargers)
So, I believe that the batteries are giving a false empty when being used hard in the mower. So by the time they cool down and charge, they register half full again.
@@WorkshopAddict That sounds about right. I got the same issue with the gen1 mower and the 5ah batteries it came with. They would report empty when really they were overheated. They'd get a bar or 2 back after cooling.
Just bought the newer (and higher priced) version (DCMWSP255Y2) of this mower and not sure yet if (or to what extent) I will like or dislike it. When I brought it home (new) from Homey Depot and the "safety key" was missing. Took it back for exchange or adjustment, and they had to give me a key from another unit in stock. Returned home and tried running it on a clean & dry surface... indoors, and the dog was not amused. I adjusted the thumbwheel for the drive to its slowest setting; when the triggers were squeezed all the way... the thing just plain boogies at a fairly high speed. I guess I will need to learn to avoid squeezing them as much.
I think it will work out for me, but time will tell (not quite there yet... baby steps).
I'm confused. he mentions its a $500 mower and links to the homedepot link shows the "non self propelled". but the Self propelled version is $599
What batteries were used in this test to get these results ?
I wanna see a versus against the Milwaukee 2823-22hd 😁😏
Dewalt dropped the ball on this mower. I’d say the first gen dewalt mower without self drive was better. They should make a dual battery flex volt mower off the first gen mower with self drive. That would be a hit.
Agreed!
Their flexvolt trimmer is a beast! Wish the mower held up..
Wish i would have read this before I purchased mine it sucks
is ego one better
are the current dewalt oens still shit? ego better?
Can the unit drive (self-propel) with the blades disengaged?
I go over that in the video. No.
@@WorkshopAddict Missed that, thank you. The video was great.
I just purchased one, is it ok to store by hanging it or sitting it on two wheels against a wall?
Great video! I might end up getting one! Just one question.. like how you said if the batteries die and you are stuck somewhere and can’t use the self propelling to get the mower back to charge the batteries, why not just take the batteries out and go charge them and leave the mower there?
Or just tip the mower back, and wheelie it home.
@@WHEAT1E5 Or fold it up and pull it like a suitcase.
You complained about the wheels giving resistance when it's off and you try to push it. You do realize it is front wheel drive only and you can easily push the handle down until the front wheels are off the ground right?
You are right. the reason I brought up the resistance is that many people purchases these, or want to purchase a SP mower, but do not want to use the SP all the time. They just want to push it and this mower is a bad choice for that person due to the resistance.
@@WorkshopAddict
This is why more companies need to start using AWD on their mowers. Or at least use Rear wheel drive. One thing I love on some of Toros and craftsman walk behind mowers is their personal pace package. It adjusts to your walking pace. I wish more mowers had that feature.
Can I use non-Dewalt batteries? I can purchase 20V 9Ah compatibles for 1/2 the price.
How fast can you walk behind? Is it a slow walk, or can you really keep up a good fast pace?
Thanks for explaining important handling information on this DeWalt equipment.
Can I use 2 flex volt batteries but one is 6ah and the other is 9mah
How does it compare to the new Ryobi 40v?
This is light years ahead of the new Ryobi dual blade! Everything about this mower rocks the Ryobi, except runtime.
@@WorkshopAddict Love the steel deck on the Dewalt. Just seems to have some features missing though that the Ryobi sports.
33'x200'..is ~ 1 quarter acre.i believe...not bad... what size batteries though Brian?....
204 by 204 is an acre..... But remember, my grass was crazy long and I went for worse case with the testing. I would rather have people who are overly happy than sad by the purchase. They are 20-volt batteries that are 10Ah each.
I'm happy with my Craftsman v60 mower. But I would like to see a Milwaukee M18 mower with 2 12ah battery's.
Or 4 batteries
Well its here and in the same cutting conditions it gets about 46minutes runtime.
The only thing I didn't like is it takes to long for the batteries to change. I have a half acre yard and I have a DeWalt 60 volt trimmer so I bought an extra battery and ordered an extra charger to get more run time. I still had to stop multiple times on my half acre lawn due to batteries running out of power. The one I bought isn't self propelled.
I'd like to see how this compares to the new Milwaukee M18 mower.
can you buy blades?
Excellent video. Just bought this mower.
Have not used it yet. Is there a real advantage to using the flex volt batteries on this lawn mower.dcb609 is what I had in mind but not sure if for the price there is a real benefit? Thank you for time.
I would not go out and buy new FlexVolts just for the mower.
I like this guy. Subscribed.
Good review. I'm about to drop 8 racks on one, twelve if I get the 9Ah Flexvolt.
I’m looking for a new mower but for the price I can get a Honda gas. I’m not sold on these electric yet.
The overload light turned on when I washed the deck down with water to clean the mower I hate leaving grass or weeds on equipment @WorkShopAddict
if it runs hot with 2 10ah batteries, imagine with smaller ones like 4ah This mower should've been 60v from the begining.
Yeah I have a weedeater and lots of other tool and it drains 20v batteries pretty quick. Great for simple quick but if you are doing high load big cuts it drains the battery quick. High demand jobs definitely need higher voltage. 20v has its place but high drain is really hard on lower voltage. For my experience.
My main hesitation is the front wheel drive. My Honda hrx finally gave up, and I need to buy something soon!
JUST bought one from eBay seller this week. Picked it up locally just 2 miles from my house. Unfortunately, it didn't come with batteries or charger. Oh well, what do you want for only $140 NEW !!!
Solid video info…Dewalt needs to send a min of flexvolt 9ah with these mowers. The 12ah are the best choice. They should learn from Milwaukee, they would pair it with a 12ah.
Right on
Last I checked Milwaukee doesn’t have a mower on the market...
@@Wrencheasy I assume he is referring to some HD tools that underperform with the batteries that are sent with them but rock with the 12Ah.
@@WorkshopAddict that’s fair, on the m18 miter saw it specifically states 15ah corded power using 12AH HD M18 battery. but I appreciate the flexibility of being able to use other batteries as necessary. I typically use a 5ah in my 40V Ryobi push but I’ve dropped a 2ah to get the job done. Noticeably less power but imagine if they required it to have 4ah +. Not useful. They should just be more clear in the manuals as to the effect of ah
I'd love it, if the mowers came with a pair of 12ah flexvolts, but to get to the $400 price point (needed to be price competitive with Ryobi and others and still have some profit margin) I don't think that could be done with flexvolts. So they made some new high capacity 10ah batteries, which are probably cheaper than flexvolts.
Nice review but my 5 year old Ego is head and shoulders above this as far as usability and battery longevity (especially with the new batteries available).
Ego does make a steel deck and I thought about it but I live in a very humid climate and the damp grass will, eventually, as it sits inside the deck, promote eventual rust so I stayed with the plastic composite deck.
Also, Ego does have all of the tools available for yard work all using the same batteries and has been producing them for many years so there is that history.
To be fair, however, I do stay with DeWalt for all of my battery tools (impact, drill, recip saw, etc.)
You must have a Gen 1 EGO
@@WorkshopAddict Yes, I do, love it!
No maintenance other than changing, or sharpening, the blade on occasion. :)
Oh, and keeping the batteries charged up.
Might be a dumb question here, but I have the 4 port fast charger for the 20v batteries and this battery looks pretty big. Do you think the 10ah will fit on the charger?
It does fit.
I was very Disappointed that it came with 2 1.25amp hour slow chargers wish the Unit had better protection against water so it was easier to wash and clean after use @WorkshopAddict
I think I figured out Dewalt's logic on the self propel. When the handle is folded down, the mower can be picked up and wheeled around on its rear wheels. Dewalt probably expected you would wheel it out, unfold it, mow, fold it up and wheel it away.
What height does the 1,2,3,4,5,6 correspond to?
How long does it take to charge the 10ah battery’s ?
On the standard charger this comes with, about an hour and a half.
WorkshopAddict wow mine took 8 hours
Was it too hot to charge when you put it on?
WorkshopAddict no I charged them indoors straight out the box
Nice video thanks for all the important info... just 1 question where and when did you find this model for 499.00 ..I bought mine at home depot fof 549.00 on dec 15th? Just wondering
milwaukee needs to come out with one already
Drive speed adjuster. I had no idea thanks for the video
So it's actually a 40v?
I am going to assume and Dewalt did not want to call it a 40-volt since they just discontinued the 40-volt line.
Well glad to see it cuts well, but disappointed in the front wheel drive and if those batteries get that hot they likely won't last long. Seems like this is aimed at the bottom of the market which is a bit of a surprise from DeWalt. It is made (or assembled) in the US though and it is an American company (Stanley Black&Decker), that's a big plus in my book.
GREAT VIDEO. VERY COOL. THANK YOU!
I'm surprised you didn't do a runtime test with the flexvolt batteries 🤷♂️ good review tho 👌
All of my lawns are overgrown and my runtime testing suffers because of that. It makes for great worse case senarios... I did do the tests and frankly, the 9Ah FV Batts give the same runtime with less heat as I mentioned in the video. The 12Ah Batts gave me 9 more minutes in heavy use. Is that worth the 300 plus bucks? No, but I you have them, use them.
@@WorkshopAddict that makes sense bro. Whenever I use a flexvolt battery in a 20v tool I get more runtime and the battery is cooler. I always see people in the comments saying there is no difference and have even pointlessly gotten in heated discussions about it. 🤣
Why do flex volt batteries run cooler? Do they have a fan inside?
High Ah 20-volt batteries have 10 cells and the FlexVolt batteries have 15 cells. More cells to spread the amp draw over so it runs cooler.
Another great video! Thank you!
13:20 Just tilt the mower up?
14:30 ah I see.
Great review, thanks. I plan to purchase a DeWalt mower once my gas mower dies. I like that I can use my FV batteries on this mower and those two 20V 10Ah can power my 71/4" DeWalt mitre saw.
Flexvolt fits? What size
why I want a self propelled mower?
I would say I did worse case scenario on my vid3o today and in a sense abusing this mower by cutting 3 plus foot tall crab grass that was super dense but I was impressed on how well it handled it @WorkshopAddict
Great informative video as always. My question is , and this is to ALL of the manufacturers that make battery operated lawnmowers , some more than others.........is why ? Not picking on this particular DeWalt mower , but realistically , how much more would it have cost DeWalt to throw in the dual fast charger with the larger flexvolt batteries ? $25 $50 $75 ??? As long as it's not much more than that ( I assure you it's not much more at all ) the informed buyer will pay it and will only make your product look better . Let's all be honest , the real problem for the most part is these manufacturers are depending on us the consumers to be wanting just a little more out of our purchase and go out and purchase what should have came with the mower in the first place , and all of us know extras and accessories is where the real profit is. So that being said , if you buy this DeWalt mower , you are more than likely already on the Dewalt platform and have the disease which most of us are infected with , which is called the , " I spend money on the latest and greatest shit I don't need disease " ....which by the way is extremely contagious. So now $499 mower quickly turns into $700 -$800. Again , I'm not picking on DeWalt , because THEY ARE ALL GREEDY #+$@ suckers who know how to exploit our sickness.
I personally have the select cut Ego which is like the Dewalt , it has both good and bad too !!! But , if you tinker around with the blades......trust me , you can get a lot more run time and better cutting out of it. Unfortunately I cannot say what or how because I don't want to be responsible for someone cutting off something they were born with.
I appreciate you understanding why I kept this comment so short.
I think most purchases for these mowers are made in the store and the manufacturers know that there will be other brands at different price points and they compete to beat the other brands rather than compete for the educated consumer.
@@WorkshopAddict very well said , and although very sad.......as you said they also most certainly target the uninformed buyer. However they have to know that more and more consumers are looking to channels like yours for honest unbiased information in order to get the most bang for their buck.
I would like to see this mower with two 12ah flexvolt batteries in a side by side comparison with the version that you tested to compare runtime as well as battery temperature and to see if on a good hot day the flexvolts also need to cool before charging. Also , how hard would it be to use some of the airflow under the deck to somehow push some air around the batteries ? Just saying.....
@@donnysanner342 I did run 9Ah flexvts and 12Ah flexvolts in this and both would charge immediately after use with no thermal timeout. 12ah got 11 minutes more runtime in the heavy grass 9ah was about the same and 10ah 20 volts.
@@WorkshopAddict thanks for the info
Most people will just throw the batteries on the charger when they're done mowing. And charging the batteries slower is actually better for them. So I can see the reason for a slow charger with this.
Thank you . Great presentation 👍🏾
Great video. When is the video on the new flexvolt trimmer coming?
I am hoping this week.
When are you going to test the new Dewalt 12v impacts?
Soon I hope. I have had them on order for a month.
Not a big fan of the front wheel drive. Too much wheel spin, most of the weight of mower is towards the rear. On front wheel drive mowers I always have a hard time mowing a straight line cause the mower wants to slide around to much to get traction. I think Dewalt also makes a Rear wheel drive version now.