Anyone who follows cfb knew what Milton was the whole time, extremely gifted arm but not a QB up top where it matters. He wont stay on an NFL roster past 2 years
Out of the two he looked a lot worse to me. He just looks really slow to process and stands in the pocket flat-footed. Then he just panics and runs. Hartman didn’t look great but at least looked decisive in where he wanted to go he just wasn’t accurate. Part of that one could put down to just the chemistry with receivers he’s not used to playing with. You can’t just sit back there and fail to get the ball out rep after rep like Milton did though.
Same thing that I have been saying since he was at Michigan.. The man is in the wrong sport.. It might not be to late for him to make the transition to baseball right now...
@@lyonkang7402But didn't someone teach him how to accurately throw a football by now? 🤔 If he can throw it for 70 yards, should be able to hit the checkdown for five.
The worst part is the defense is so simple, a 4-man rush with basic coverage nearly every play, and still they were hanging onto the ball and missing open receivers. This should have been relatively easy, especially for the guys who are like 23 years-old.
That’s what happens when you Dr.Seuss your playbook and schemes and your QB’s can’t ID defenses lol People forget Patty Mahomes said he didn’t know how to read a defense until he was at KC lol
On those deep balls, I've seen some go long with coverage over top, when it should've been low so the receiver can box out, there were a couple with bad velocity coming in on an arch that let coverage catch up and some clear forces to double coverage, but I agree that it went to where the receiver was, lol. Poor Tez Walker was consistently open deep, and that mask just stayed there to get undercut by the DB, better depth of speed and Wallet has a few TDs.
@@praisebegamecocks I feel kinda bad for Tez. He was cooking ACC defenses in the short time he played for UNC but as soon as he plays good players, he doesn’t catch a thing. I remember watching him catch almost every deep ball in the game verses my Duke team and he did not look like the same player
@JumpedSeal3178 This all star game wasn't on him, he kept beating coverage and having to slow to wait in the ball. He doesn't seem to be great against right coverage, but if he can beat it, Pro QBs will get it to him better, but that's an IF.
@@ScootsMcPoot Yeah, he got 81 of those in 1 play against a FCS school. I watched the games and running was a last ditch option just like any other pocket passer. It was until the second half of this last year that he actually started to look at running as an option. An average of 6.5 rushing attempts per game, isn’t a duel threat to me. Not saying he wasn’t good runner. And when he did run, he was successful. He just didn’t do it enough.
Milton just doesn't have the consistency to be a starter, i'm sure he will be a decent back-up and possibly be someone you can throw in there and get you a win every now and then when needed but i truly dont see him being a permanent starter, as a Vols fan it's clear as day he was holding the team back (and i say that with respect) i mean the dude was a 6th year senior and has gotten benched/beat out literally everywhere he went, the writing is on the wall however i still wish him luck #GBO
Senior bowl, pro day, and combine are all secondary to all the performance tape they produced on the field through their college career. That tape is the reason these two guys are rated as 3rd-4th round picks in the upcoming NFL draft.
Milton will be a 5th round at best. Those who have watched him every Saturday knows it. Hartman will have a chance w NFL receivers and coaching. He may need time tho. Milton,nope.
@@RickMcGuire-bl2vs Some GM will decide to give Milton a higher pick than he probably deserves because of his "measurables." They'll fall in love with 6'5", 240 lbs, decent running ability, and huge arm. But, yeah, in college he never really lived up to the hype.
Someone is gonna fall in love with Milton’s arm talent and reach in the 4th for him..I don’t see him panning out in the NFL..the arm talent is there but nothing else
It doesn't matter if they don't have chemistry with these guys. You can see talent when someone has it. These guys don't have it. Milton might want to change to TE.
Hartman can read a defense that’s blind man had a wide open check down man during the 3rd and threw it into double coverage not only that man threw an ill advised pick close to the end zone. Milton’s pass towards the end zone was the right man he just threw it extremely late in my opinion. Can Hartman read a defense better than Milton I think so but saying Hartman can even read a defense is laughable 😅
Hartman was constantly throwing deep balls into double coverage and throwing hospital balls at least milton was throwing to his check down when he didn't know what to do😂
So you think the whole close is decent? You said pick in the top 3 if you want a decent qb lmao Williams, maye, jj, are all elite-great prospects and then you got some of the average-good being bo and penix who can still be great qbs
Someone told Joe Milton that he was an athlete and it was the worst thing that could have happened for him. If someone told him he was slow he would get the ball out of his hand much faster
Milton being a former Mich QB, I want him to do good but us Mich fans kinda knew he couldn't read the field too good. Seems like TN knows this too. Great arm but that's about it. Just can't read the defense, read the field, scan the field. He panics very.
Yep, spot on analysis. That's exactly what we saw at TN. He can overthrow a receiver 100 yards. He can panic and run out of bounds 1 yard short of the sticks. Run out of bounds on 4th down with no time on the clock. Throw the ball into double coverage when he has a wide open field to run for the first down. Zero awareness of the field. Afraid to take a hit. Crazy. We actually heard it all from Michigan fans (along with highlights). You were correct all along.
@@JimCastleberry I saw that on Sportscenter where he ran out of bounds with no time too 🤦🏻♂️ He just has zero awareness of the field & panics. He won't make it in the NFL or the CFL or the Japanese League for that matter.
This is basically Joe Milton at 1:03. No Mich player in the area & he threw directly to a Wisconsin player......on the numbers 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ ruclips.net/video/kfFUMBiy0Ls/видео.htmlsi=cAzne67nQCGnMZDU
People. Joe Milton Did exceptional. Here's why, no need to speak about Talent because it's by far The most we've seen since Cam & Anthony Richardson. Thr throws he made had touch & accuracy. He threw with Rhythm besides the throw to the flats. His 1st int he threw was A due to being indecisive. Totally Fixable. Simply will learn to run..the 2nd INT. Was A Clear miscommunication..we don't know what happened. He is A Clear cut 1st round talent who should go 1st round just like AR did. Joe Milton is A Franchise QB.
Running backs must of been in trouble and as punishment they couldn't touch the ball and had to watch average to slightly below average QBs try to complete some passes 😂
When he was at Michigan, everyone compared Milton to Cam Newton. After watching this game, the comparisons seem to be a perfect fit... huge talent, needs a lot of work.
Milton will get drafted and so will Hartman. Sam throws a beautiful ball I think he has promise to have a NFL career. Milton just needs a QB whisper, Coach Heupel did a good job coaching him, but Milton development depends on if he can get better with decision making and accuracy along with putting more touch on the ball especially on those simple 5-10 yard throws lol. As a UT fan it's hard watching him because you pull for him and he lets you down, but when you least expect it Milton throws a beautiful 50/50 ball for a 60 yard TD on the money. I'm sure Milton will have a career in the NFL because even as a No.2 QB he has more upside as a 6'5 230 pound QB who can move around if he has too with a rocket arm. It'll be interesting were both of these QBs end up and what round they will be drafted in. I haven't looked into any draft boards but if I had to guess I'd say Sam could be anywhere from a 3rd round to 4th round pick, and Joe Milton will probably be a 5th to maybe a 7th round pick because he will be a QB that will undergo major developments because of his accuracy and lack of reading a NFL defense, but if he lands somewhere with the right coaching staff I think he will have a good chance to be a starter in 3-4 years .
Hes 24 y/o he has had the best college coaching available, he's still throwing back against his body (for an interception)...that's not fixable its in his DNA.
@@petermarshall6577 maybe we’ll see. I think whoever coaches him is gonna be patient becuz of his arm strength. He’ll definitely be a project QB and probably be a No.2 for the majority of his career, but ain’t nun wrong with it becuz being a starter in the NFL can be a revolving door for most players that can take years and even some guys who are successful have up and down years thru their career and get traded around until they end up with the right franchise at the right time and with the right team. We don’t know what a guy will do becuz we’ve all seen players that have no business even being a #1 pick or even in the 1st round and we see guys at every position get drafted 6th and 7th rounds sometimes even UDFA and become household names during their career. I’m not saying Milton will be the next QB to torch secondaries on Sundays but I am saying he can have a solid NFL career even if he only becomes a backup for the majority of his career.
The only redeeming factor about milton is he could at least find his check down he'll definitely be a backup Hartman just tosses it up hoping for the best in double coverage and he threw some hospital balls. Someone in the 3rd round will take a chance on milton.
Milton will get drafted, really didn't play that bad, has decent pocket presence and made good reads. Had a miscommunication on one pick and the other was a risky decision that I wouldn't blame a young qb too much for, especially with the pressure of this game
@@Kyle-cb8xv no it want. It was simply a fact that was stated. Tua was not QB 1 but he was still really good he gets so much hate for some reason. (Same with Dak)
We've been hearing that all the QBs (except for Rattler who is a little too small) have stunk. And here's the confirmation. Milton has the possibility of a future. Hartman does not. Against pro DBs, Hartman would have had a half-dozen interceptions there. Underthrowing everybody.
In a little bit of fairness, these games are tough for play calling. Joe isxs bigmold, good guy either huge arm but after watching him, I honestly think he's scared of getting hit. He could've running hundreds of times.
Both Hartman first passes were good nd on point 3 was ass thrown in double coverage 4 was batted down 5 snap he’s scrambled to improvise 6th was a bad underthrown on ball 7th on point 8 on point 9 read option for yards 10th Michigans tight end could not pull it in 11th tries to fit in small space in back of end zone 12th bad read and leads to a interception 13th checking for first down 8 yards 14th scramble for 3 yards 14th sacked due to bad blocking 15th completion due to wr making play
LV lucky KK backed out, take it from an AZ fan. KK doesnt know how to call/manage the airraid Offense or any offensive calls/management, he could'nt manage the flippin play clock in Az!! Sounds like some are acting like KK is a hot commodity,🤣😂🤣😂
I cannot fucken believe Milton is being mentioned as a potential Raider qb. Legitimate sources are saying he’s in play for 3rd round when he looks like he won’t even make the Saskatchewan rough rider practice squad. Praying to all the gods that we do not draft this kid.
I’d still take Milton 20 TD 5 INT with a cannon develop him like Pat 2 years behind a vet. I hope the Saints get Milton or trade Carr for a pick we should’ve never signed Carr
Milton reminds me alot of Byron Leftwich, will absolutely find a team to play for / on just by that arm strength, but the accuracy is always going to be questionable on anything but a deep ball and the plain progressions and read decisions can be brutal.
I’ve never been a believer in Milton, just because you have the tools and the rocket arm doesn’t mean you know how to put it together and he didn’t at any point in his career
I would still take Milton over Hartman. Hartman looked physically overmatched. Hartman's mechanics are also worse than Milton's somehow. Footwork is better but the arm action looks miserable half the time. The throw at 5:03 is mind-bogglingly bad. At least you could theoretically coach up Milton's tools.
As a Tennessee fan, I expected Joe to play like this.
Yep same
That's the past. Its nico time gbo
As a Michigan, so did I.
Anyone who follows cfb knew what Milton was the whole time, extremely gifted arm but not a QB up top where it matters. He wont stay on an NFL roster past 2 years
So glad he is gone
Milton looked like Milton. Period. No need to keep beating that same drum. I wish him the best
Out of the two he looked a lot worse to me. He just looks really slow to process and stands in the pocket flat-footed. Then he just panics and runs. Hartman didn’t look great but at least looked decisive in where he wanted to go he just wasn’t accurate. Part of that one could put down to just the chemistry with receivers he’s not used to playing with. You can’t just sit back there and fail to get the ball out rep after rep like Milton did though.
Milton throws like Tarzan, plays like Jane
My Milton hot take is he should actually be playing baseball. 100 plus fastball potential.
Same thing that I have been saying since he was at Michigan.. The man is in the wrong sport.. It might not be to late for him to make the transition to baseball right now...
Doesn't matter how hard you throw if they aren't strikes
In my opinion he should have been a tight end
@@00ghostcobrayou can teach that part. Can’t learn to throw 102
@@lyonkang7402But didn't someone teach him how to accurately throw a football by now? 🤔 If he can throw it for 70 yards, should be able to hit the checkdown for five.
The worst part is the defense is so simple, a 4-man rush with basic coverage nearly every play, and still they were hanging onto the ball and missing open receivers. This should have been relatively easy, especially for the guys who are like 23 years-old.
Sure they can probably crush it on the whiteboard but live is a whole different story
That’s what happens when you Dr.Seuss your playbook and schemes and your QB’s can’t ID defenses lol People forget Patty Mahomes said he didn’t know how to read a defense until he was at KC lol
Bro I feel like Milton has trouble tying his shoes. Nothing in that man’s life is simple.
Hartman’s deep balls were extremely accurate it’s just that nobody can catch
On those deep balls, I've seen some go long with coverage over top, when it should've been low so the receiver can box out, there were a couple with bad velocity coming in on an arch that let coverage catch up and some clear forces to double coverage, but I agree that it went to where the receiver was, lol. Poor Tez Walker was consistently open deep, and that mask just stayed there to get undercut by the DB, better depth of speed and Wallet has a few TDs.
@@praisebegamecocks I feel kinda bad for Tez. He was cooking ACC defenses in the short time he played for UNC but as soon as he plays good players, he doesn’t catch a thing. I remember watching him catch almost every deep ball in the game verses my Duke team and he did not look like the same player
@JumpedSeal3178 This all star game wasn't on him, he kept beating coverage and having to slow to wait in the ball. He doesn't seem to be great against right coverage, but if he can beat it, Pro QBs will get it to him better, but that's an IF.
Uhhhh the one at 1:40 and the one right after were definitely not accurate. The velocity was bad and both should have been picked off.
His arm is either too weak or he's been in college for too long. He doesn't put the ball where it needs to be to avoid NFL-level defenders
Milton will get drafted because of his size and potential while Hartman will get drafted because of that sexy beard
FR, Hartman boutta be the next Garoppolo
No chance. Undrafted for sure
@@LetsJustBeRealAboutItPod-ye4ts Milton will get drafted and Hartman is 50/50.
Hartman getting drafted over Milton.
@@pooop7479 nah, Miltons got all the potential that Hartman doesn’t. They both have low floors but Milton’s ceiling is higher.
Huepels offense helped Milton's stats ALOT. Tons of throws at and behind the line of scrimmage, sitting targets, no reading.
That was rough
Looked like every time Hartman pulled the option he should have just handed it off
I’ve been hearing the same thing about Joe Milton since Michigan. “Look at the arm strength” then nothing after that😑
Milton has it all physically, it’s between the ears where he fails.
That's 95% of dual threat qbs
@@ScootsMcPoot He isn’t really a duel threat QB. He could be and until the last few games in college, he almost never ran.
@@ScootsMcPoothe’s not a dual threat qb bro
2023 he ran for 299 yard on 78 attempts. Sounds dual threat to Me
@@ScootsMcPoot Yeah, he got 81 of those in 1 play against a FCS school. I watched the games and running was a last ditch option just like any other pocket passer. It was until the second half of this last year that he actually started to look at running as an option. An average of 6.5 rushing attempts per game, isn’t a duel threat to me.
Not saying he wasn’t good runner. And when he did run, he was successful. He just didn’t do it enough.
bro do they not want to get drafted?😭this was terrible
YOU missed it... they are getting drafted in the new XFL/USFL
Fr I was at the game they were dookie 😂😢
@@jasonjones1192No kiddo, you missed it. Those two have merged into one league. The UFL
Facts
Milton throws like Tarzan, plays like Jane
Milton just doesn't have the consistency to be a starter, i'm sure he will be a decent back-up and possibly be someone you can throw in there and get you a win every now and then when needed but i truly dont see him being a permanent starter, as a Vols fan it's clear as day he was holding the team back (and i say that with respect) i mean the dude was a 6th year senior and has gotten benched/beat out literally everywhere he went, the writing is on the wall however i still wish him luck #GBO
Hartman could be OK if he gets into the right system and gets into a rhythm with his WRs. He's like a Sam Howell type.
5:18 - good example of how hard it is for QB’s that don’t have that connection yet with a WR. If WR cuts back upfield prob a TD.
Senior bowl, pro day, and combine are all secondary to all the performance tape they produced on the field through their college career. That tape is the reason these two guys are rated as 3rd-4th round picks in the upcoming NFL draft.
Milton will be a 5th round at best. Those who have watched him every Saturday knows it. Hartman will have a chance w NFL receivers and coaching. He may need time tho. Milton,nope.
@@RickMcGuire-bl2vs Some GM will decide to give Milton a higher pick than he probably deserves because of his "measurables." They'll fall in love with 6'5", 240 lbs, decent running ability, and huge arm. But, yeah, in college he never really lived up to the hype.
@@saldiven2009the dude has a slow computer
that tape lets me think they will be UDFA's
Someone is gonna fall in love with Milton’s arm talent and reach in the 4th for him..I don’t see him panning out in the NFL..the arm talent is there but nothing else
It doesn't matter if they don't have chemistry with these guys. You can see talent when someone has it. These guys don't have it. Milton might want to change to TE.
Well said!
as an nd fan, hartman might have to head into the modeling profession
Hartman can read a defense Milton can’t . Milton can make all the throws Hartman can’t . That’s all this is
Hartman can read a defense that’s blind man had a wide open check down man during the 3rd and threw it into double coverage not only that man threw an ill advised pick close to the end zone. Milton’s pass towards the end zone was the right man he just threw it extremely late in my opinion. Can Hartman read a defense better than Milton I think so but saying Hartman can even read a defense is laughable 😅
They're both trash regardless and you're not slick with your subtle, "One can read a defense and the other can't".
Hartman was constantly throwing deep balls into double coverage and throwing hospital balls at least milton was throwing to his check down when he didn't know what to do😂
I think this is a pretty fair take on what we're seeing here...
I'm telling you. Someone will think they can fix Joe Milton and draft him… the combine will make him a fourth rounder or better🤦♂️
Tez walker looked weak asl 😂😂
He was Drake Maye’s go to receiver 😭
Age, Sex, Location?
He missed a big chance , but Hartman did nothing to help him at all. Missed him constantly
@@UncleRicoOSU😅
Hartman play like Tony Romo 😂
Welp. You better be picking in the top 3 if you want a decent QB that can play in 2024 imho.
So you think the whole close is decent? You said pick in the top 3 if you want a decent qb lmao Williams, maye, jj, are all elite-great prospects and then you got some of the average-good being bo and penix who can still be great qbs
if Sam had Milton's arm he'd be a 1-2 rounder
Sam Hartman started off on fire for ND this past year and then got figured out about halfway thru
Someone told Joe Milton that he was an athlete and it was the worst thing that could have happened for him. If someone told him he was slow he would get the ball out of his hand much faster
Milton don't like contact he's still the same guy who ran out of bounds to end the ole miss game
9:29
I can see Milton having a pro career path in the same way as Geno Smith. Hartman is a long shot.
That’s what you came away with after that game? Milton was awful Hartman has a shot
Turns a 10 yard gain on the ground into an interception...thats NOT pro material...period.
Gino Smith was light years betting than Joe Milton in college.
Geno was a decent qb in college. Milton is terrible
@@richiebailey282 Milton has all the tools to be great he's a huge underachiever.
makes me sad. i love joe and want him to succeed sooooo bad!
Milton being a former Mich QB, I want him to do good but us Mich fans kinda knew he couldn't read the field too good. Seems like TN knows this too. Great arm but that's about it. Just can't read the defense, read the field, scan the field. He panics very.
Yep, spot on analysis. That's exactly what we saw at TN. He can overthrow a receiver 100 yards. He can panic and run out of bounds 1 yard short of the sticks. Run out of bounds on 4th down with no time on the clock. Throw the ball into double coverage when he has a wide open field to run for the first down. Zero awareness of the field. Afraid to take a hit. Crazy. We actually heard it all from Michigan fans (along with highlights). You were correct all along.
@@JimCastleberry I saw that on Sportscenter where he ran out of bounds with no time too 🤦🏻♂️ He just has zero awareness of the field & panics. He won't make it in the NFL or the CFL or the Japanese League for that matter.
This is basically Joe Milton at 1:03. No Mich player in the area & he threw directly to a Wisconsin player......on the numbers 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
ruclips.net/video/kfFUMBiy0Ls/видео.htmlsi=cAzne67nQCGnMZDU
The second Int for Milton looked like the receiver quit on the route. He just kind of slowed down with the ball in the air.
People. Joe Milton Did exceptional. Here's why, no need to speak about Talent because it's by far The most we've seen since Cam & Anthony Richardson. Thr throws he made had touch & accuracy. He threw with Rhythm besides the throw to the flats. His 1st int he threw was A due to being indecisive. Totally Fixable. Simply will learn to run..the 2nd INT. Was A Clear miscommunication..we don't know what happened. He is A Clear cut 1st round talent who should go 1st round just like AR did.
Joe Milton is A Franchise QB.
😳
Running backs must of been in trouble and as punishment they couldn't touch the ball and had to watch average to slightly below average QBs try to complete some passes 😂
When he was at Michigan, everyone compared Milton to Cam Newton. After watching this game, the comparisons seem to be a perfect fit... huge talent, needs a lot of work.
Milton will get drafted and so will Hartman. Sam throws a beautiful ball I think he has promise to have a NFL career. Milton just needs a QB whisper, Coach Heupel did a good job coaching him, but Milton development depends on if he can get better with decision making and accuracy along with putting more touch on the ball especially on those simple 5-10 yard throws lol. As a UT fan it's hard watching him because you pull for him and he lets you down, but when you least expect it Milton throws a beautiful 50/50 ball for a 60 yard TD on the money. I'm sure Milton will have a career in the NFL because even as a No.2 QB he has more upside as a 6'5 230 pound QB who can move around if he has too with a rocket arm. It'll be interesting were both of these QBs end up and what round they will be drafted in. I haven't looked into any draft boards but if I had to guess I'd say Sam could be anywhere from a 3rd round to 4th round pick, and Joe Milton will probably be a 5th to maybe a 7th round pick because he will be a QB that will undergo major developments because of his accuracy and lack of reading a NFL defense, but if he lands somewhere with the right coaching staff I think he will have a good chance to be a starter in 3-4 years .
Hes 24 y/o he has had the best college coaching available, he's still throwing back against his body (for an interception)...that's not fixable its in his DNA.
@@petermarshall6577 maybe we’ll see. I think whoever coaches him is gonna be patient becuz of his arm strength. He’ll definitely be a project QB and probably be a No.2 for the majority of his career, but ain’t nun wrong with it becuz being a starter in the NFL can be a revolving door for most players that can take years and even some guys who are successful have up and down years thru their career and get traded around until they end up with the right franchise at the right time and with the right team. We don’t know what a guy will do becuz we’ve all seen players that have no business even being a #1 pick or even in the 1st round and we see guys at every position get drafted 6th and 7th rounds sometimes even UDFA and become household names during their career. I’m not saying Milton will be the next QB to torch secondaries on Sundays but I am saying he can have a solid NFL career even if he only becomes a backup for the majority of his career.
@@bencooper7881 IMHO no I see to many mistakes for him to overcome.
Milton's measurables are insane but he's just like Milroe at Bama who also can't read defense
Milroe is worse at reading defenses to point it’s unbearable
The only redeeming factor about milton is he could at least find his check down he'll definitely be a backup Hartman just tosses it up hoping for the best in double coverage and he threw some hospital balls. Someone in the 3rd round will take a chance on milton.
Time to consider switching positions
Bruuuuhhhh i feel like Milton had so much potential
Was this game today
Milton will get drafted, really didn't play that bad, has decent pocket presence and made good reads. Had a miscommunication on one pick and the other was a risky decision that I wouldn't blame a young qb too much for, especially with the pressure of this game
at 1:18 Tua is that you ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Tua led the league in passing….
lmao dak was better..better QBR better td to in ratio less fumbles dak was QB1 this year...
@@AceWillliams
@@Kyle-cb8xv when did I say Tua was QB one?
implied with " Lead the league in passing "@@AceWillliams
@@Kyle-cb8xv no it want. It was simply a fact that was stated. Tua was not QB 1 but he was still really good he gets so much hate for some reason. (Same with Dak)
We've been hearing that all the QBs (except for Rattler who is a little too small) have stunk. And here's the confirmation. Milton has the possibility of a future. Hartman does not. Against pro DBs, Hartman would have had a half-dozen interceptions there. Underthrowing everybody.
Were they sent home ?
More energy than the pro bowl because these kids are playing for something
1:20 smh Milton
milton is the next mahomes
Milton is very inconsistent, and today was one of those days! I wish him well, but this wasn't unexpected!
Joe is going to always Joe. Couldn't wait till he left Tennessee
Wow Milton is BAD!
Oh my didn't either team have other QBs to put in?
Joe going undrafted
Hartman has an arm, but when receivers are covered that well, it’s hard to complete the pass.
Joe Milton=Quincy Carter and Sam Hartman=Mark Sanchez or maybe Jay Cutler on the high end.
Jay Cutler with way less arm talent.. lol
cutlers arm is 10000000x better than hartmans lol
Hartman is closer to Garner Minshew than Sanchez or Cutler
The comparison is definitely an insult to Cutler
Walker had a lot of drops but they were contested
Rough
Both of these clowns are going to be huge busts! Feel sorry for whoever wastes a draft pick on them. Stare down receivers and no fueld vision
Never heard of a 7th round bust before, but I think we just saw the first pair right here.
Joe Milton: Solid NFL athlete. Poor decision maker and can't read defenses
Sam Hartman: Noodle for arm
Tennessee fans tried to tell me Joe Milton was better than JJ McCarthy and that he was gonna win the heisman LMFAO
How come every time Milton hits the top of his drop he looks like he gets hit with a mccree flash grenade
In a little bit of fairness, these games are tough for play calling. Joe isxs bigmold, good guy either huge arm but after watching him, I honestly think he's scared of getting hit. He could've running hundreds of times.
Milton played like he wore lead shoes. I wouldn't be surprised if he dropped to the bottom or out.
Milton skipped the Citrus Bowl to play like that, huh? Awesome.
The sad part is, there’s a team out there that honestly things they can erase 20+ years of under development and “fix” Joe Milton😂
All the “expert analysts” saying joe Milton was going to be one of the better QBs in this draft after Caleb and Jayden 😂
I’ll be surprised if either one gets drafted after yesterday that was bad 😭
Wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be. I didn’t have a high opinion on them to begin with.
UFL type shit
Milton plays like a 65 Overall on madden lololol
Both Hartman first passes were good nd on point 3 was ass thrown in double coverage 4 was batted down 5 snap he’s scrambled to improvise 6th was a bad underthrown on ball 7th on point 8 on point 9 read option for yards 10th Michigans tight end could not pull it in 11th tries to fit in small space in back of end zone 12th bad read and leads to a interception 13th checking for first down 8 yards 14th scramble for 3 yards 14th sacked due to bad blocking 15th completion due to wr making play
Hartman should of stayed at wake forest for a 7th year
Sam Hartman is all set to have a Chase Daniels type of career. Great college QB But......
Milton was 3rd string at michigan
Milton played like this all year long. i
Yeah...these guys are dropping back expecting 10 seconds to decide.....never going to happen in the pros.
now I understand why notre dame doesnt want to play in a real conference
These QNs were mid to late round picks anyway
This year’s senior bowl was terrible they were better off keeping Bo Nix and Spencer Rattler in for one more quarter😂
So what yall think about Spencer
He got Rattled lol
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LV lucky KK backed out, take it from an AZ fan. KK doesnt know how to call/manage the airraid Offense or any offensive calls/management, he could'nt manage the flippin play clock in Az!! Sounds like some are acting like KK is a hot commodity,🤣😂🤣😂
Hartman’s problem was that his receivers refused to catch.
Joe milton with zero offense needs to logan thomas asap
Milton is what people think Milroe is.
Milton looked like hot dog water
Every great qb has pocket presence mfs now just wanna scramble 😂🎉
I cannot fucken believe Milton is being mentioned as a potential Raider qb. Legitimate sources are saying he’s in play for 3rd round when he looks like he won’t even make the Saskatchewan rough rider practice squad. Praying to all the gods that we do not draft this kid.
Chinese proverb says do not speak of things you do not understand
Hartman's second throw, (1:38), was a DIME!
Sam Hartman got some real skills he just needs some years behind a pro qb to develop more 💯
He’s already 25 though..
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Au contraire. He's awful. Against pro DBs, he would have had a half-dozen interceptions there. He underthrew everybody. He won't even get drafted.
@@Mooseman327 he has the skill set to be good asf tho 😂💯
@@DEVOSports1 and QBs play until there 38 most likely so what’s the issue 😂😂
I’d still take Milton 20 TD 5 INT with a cannon develop him like Pat 2 years behind a vet. I hope the Saints get Milton or trade Carr for a pick we should’ve never signed Carr
These guys dont even wanna get drafted 💀
Are Milton and Hartman better than zach Wilson?
No
NY giants🗣️ Spencer rattler Second round
The wide receivers are ass they had zero separation on most attempts no lie
Milton reminds me alot of Byron Leftwich, will absolutely find a team to play for / on just by that arm strength, but the accuracy is always going to be questionable on anything but a deep ball and the plain progressions and read decisions can be brutal.
Bro If Milton played this bad all season we would have gone 0-12
So Milton didn’t play the 2nd? 😏
I’ve never been a believer in Milton, just because you have the tools and the rocket arm doesn’t mean you know how to put it together and he didn’t at any point in his career
I would still take Milton over Hartman. Hartman looked physically overmatched. Hartman's mechanics are also worse than Milton's somehow. Footwork is better but the arm action looks miserable half the time. The throw at 5:03 is mind-bogglingly bad. At least you could theoretically coach up Milton's tools.
If your a vols fan and i am then we already know how joe ia gonna play look guys i can throw a football 70mph smh
And people wonder why Michigan sent Milton packing.