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I WANT A RED DOT, but don't have a MOS slide ... Easy Red dot instillation!!!
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- Опубликовано: 12 авг 2024
- I WANT A RED DOT, but don't have a MOD slide ... Easy Red dot instillation on this video! With this product, you don't need to send your slide in and get it all cut up. The last thing I want to do, as an advent shooter, is to take apart my gun for weeks at a time and hope that the shop I sent it to, doesn't mess up my slide and make it either off center, or drill in the wrong screws. With the DPP you don't have to worry! Put it on, or take it back off for that basic look again whenever you want to. No worrying about your sliding coming back to you in worse shape than you sent it off.
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Everybody who bothers to do such an informative vid gets a thumbs up.
Hey thank you very much for the support!
Hopefully youtube doesn't strike it down as they tend to do with videos like this. They have some bullshit rules on this because they consider it modifying a firearm usually. Most people wont even show video's on putting grips and such on a gun. Great video though keep it up.
And a new subscriber
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@@jeffofalltrades8489were can I buy this part?
This is exactly what I needed. I have a Gen 3 Glock 35 and I want to add an optic. I didn’t want something that would move while shooting. This is a great video. Thanks Jeff.
Thank you for the support! I hope it helps!
What model is that
What model is the hollusum red dot
@@michaeldomingo6364 507K
I've done this, and just wasn't satisfied; the plate and red-dot device were easy to install, but the red-dot's use was problematic for me because having the dot so much higher than where the iron sights used to be meant I had to adjust my firing grip since my natural sight alignment wasn't there. Under stress conditions I found I had to chase the dot to get on target or tilt the gun to get the front sight in the screen before dropping it enough for the dot to become visible. I fixed this by putting my own markings on the red-dot's frame and that worked well to help get the dot on target fast. In essence, I manufactured something of a co-witness to adjust for the dot's height above the slide. My next step might have been to install a tall front sight, but I decided I'd rather mill the slide. I like red-dot sights and they're great once on target, and using a plate is a quick and easy install, but you have to practice getting the dot on target without benefit of anything like a co-witness. Good vid, BTW, to show peeps this isn't a hard thing to do.
I wish Holosun or some other optics company, made a red dot that you could actually adjust up or down to lower or raised the dot. I dunno, just a thought.
If you have your slide milled will your optic be seated any lower than using the plate demonstrated in this video? I would think that the optics would be better if they were closer to the center of the barrel
@@Hodado Yes, milling the slide brings the red dot lower on the slide. Specifically, a mounting plate will rest high above the slide in the rear sight bevel, but milling a slot brings your dot down not just the depth of the plate but also any slide curvature.
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@@Hodadoyes it would be lower to the barrel if you chose to mill, this is just a more affordable option versus spending 150-200 for them to just work on your oem slide to make a mos
Thumbs up for the informative video. For anyone that wants to try a red dot I would not recommend this route or even having their current slide milled. As someone that used to mill slides I recognize the market has dramatically changes in the past 10 years and it's exploded with options. At the time of this vid there around 100 auctions for new stripped slides cut for various optics. Buy a new slide. If you don't like it, sell it used. They sell immediately even used and beat up. There is one with a broken tap stuck in it with bids right now. Just swap slides. The DPP also has some issues with tilt. The dovetail cut causes the plate to be angled slightly forward. This can max out the vertical adjustment on some optics.
...do you have a source for GEN 4 Glock 22 slides?
@@TallSlowGuy That might be the only model/gen that doesn't specifically have slide support in aftermarket. I think a Gen5 G22 slide will work on a Gen4. I think... There is at least a Gen5 G22 MOS. If that doesn't work I'd still buy a used G22 gen4 slide then send that off to be milled. Or wait on ebay for someone that has already done that and is selling theirs. Note when those sell they will sell for less than an uncut factory slide. One of the reasons I say not to have yours milled.
I agree, just ordered a cut slide with ports and ported barrel so I can just swap them.
Where do you buy slides milled ?
@@larrybruns5051 I got mine from Aim Surplus
Be careful. The companies name is DPP Titanium but some of the plates are aluminum. It can be confusing when reading the product description. As an example: 'DPP Titanium mounting plate for Glock 19'. But further in the description it says it's made of Aluminum.
Thanks for the info !
As my eyes continue to fail, I’m no longer able to focus onto the front sight. Very frustrating indeed, the red dot seems to be the best solution. I will be doing this myself, thanks for the vid.
Ive never had luck with plates. Getting the slide milled or getting a different slide is so much more reliable. I guess it all depends on your mission.
Clearly explained and you make it look easy. Kudos!
Great idea, however I would prefer to have the slide cut so the optic sits as low as possible.
We would “prefer” a lot of things, but if don’t have the means THIS ☝️ is the way to go! 💯
That milling is like $160
@@robertcoco893 yeah and it's measurably better 🤷♂️
@@robertcoco893 unless you own a machine shop like I do. Lol
I still have not milled mine yet, I just installed the dovetail mount. One of these day I might find time to mill it though.
Where do you order this from? All I'm seeing is Amazon
EGW makes mounts for the popular optics and glocks, what I like about them is the progressive taper on the dovetail...you need a press tool to install..but it is the most solid fit I have tried yet...it basically becomes part of the slide.
or a hammer is a momentary press Richard, it's all half dozen of one, 6 of the other kinda thing really, just get'r done already if you're a shit shot Rick because it helps. It sure does help, yes it does. Like drawing hair around the target see.
@@Roboticdoughbull3k You made absolutely zero sense.
Thanks, Jeff! I have a Glock, mod 30 that I've wanted to add a red dot to but didn't want to go through the hassle and expense of sending the slide in for the modification. Appreciate the video and info! JD (Michigan)
Hey man I really appreciate the support!! I hope it worked out!
I have a Glock I wanted to install a red dot sight. Upon investigating, sending the slide out for milling is $200 just for the milling service. And it has to be milled exactly for the sight brand you want to use. I like what I saw here. I’d rather spent a few bucks on the slide mount plate and apply $150 savings to a better red dot sight. Thanks for the video !
Your life isn't worth $200?
I guess depends on who ya ask . That's for mine. No one else's Lol.
@elitetrader5468 bro ur not gonna die using a plate
@@WholeSomeHomie if your life depended on it....would you skimp out on the $200?
glad you made this video.. I almost bought the Glock Store Dove Tail Mount & get one for my G19x. I really don't wanna have it milled.
I do see PA has the reg. $300+ 407CO on sale for $179.. Might be a good pair up
Heads up! Dovedot adaptive plate is the new king of dovetail mounts. It is more expensive but has a rear sight built into the plate and the corresponding fiber optic front post. Currently they only have Rmsc footprint, but RMR is coming in early 2023.
Thanks!
@@dovemounts8840 you have no idea how many times I wondered why no had done this yet.
Its 2023 so how about that rmr option already fed, were 3 days into the year already....🤨😃
@@Roboticdoughbull3k patience is a virtue😁
How early which month?
I’m really impressed that you have 10yrs of use on a G43.
Excellent video. Good photography, clear and concise verb instructions. Informative, easy to watch.
I appreciate that man! Thank you for the comment!
Thank you this video is the best. I thought I was gonna have to drill my slide!
You know it’s a dovetail because that’s what it is 😂
Great video
Awesome! Thank you so much. Was originally going to get the slide milled but if I don't need to, then I can put more into the sight
That's why I did it!
@@jeffofalltrades8489 so any issues after many rounds ?
I would recommend a sight pusher. They are very useful and you'll get good mileage out of it.
DPP, is great quality and still solid after two years on my Glock 30 for duty use.
I was thinking about installing on my g30 also!
Glock is absolutely beautiful handgun,
Get a suppressor height front sight for co-witness to the rear sight built in to the Holosun.
I used to work with a dude that looks exactly like you. You wouldn’t believe how close. Woa.
If his name wasn't Jeff, it wasn't me. Lol if his name WAS Jeff, what's up!
Strike Industries scorpion universal g-surf glock reflex mount is another great option for a non milling / machining of the slide. it access many different footprints of various Red Dot sites. It even has a mount that replaces your back plate that the Red Dot adapter bolts to. It also has an optional charging handle also!
Bro can you take that charging handle off? Lowkey ruins it
@@skubasteveskilla3316 yes you can run without it.
You can pick it up at optics planer...or Academy Sports And Outdoors
@@JettBlast Preciate it 💪🏽 Fs looks a lot nicer than the one in the video
@Skuba Steve Skilla it is and adapts to many different Red Dot site manufacturers mounting configurations.
Late to the show , but i appreciate the video , love my 43x non mos & This video just makes it better . Thank you amigo ✌🏾
@@78FineSmokey never too late!!! Guns don't go bad 💪
Thanks for the information. I w as about to send In my slide to br milled today. I'll try this instead.
Jeff, this is okay in a pinch, or for some plinking fun at the range. Best thing to do is to get an RMR cut on your slide or purchase a slide cut for an optic. Lots of companies are $150-$200 bucks and are made to the same grade and materials of Glock OEM slides. I recently got my hands on a TR-Enabling RemSport RMR slide w/front and rear serrations on sale with free shipping for $130.00 for my G26. Let me tell you that I was beyond impressed with the machining and finish an insane value for the money. You don't need to pay $450.00 for a slide.
Spent alot of money. We get it you wish you seen the video sooner.
@@iruamak8225 What!? Not sure so get it. He highlighted a dovetail plate that has a a sight built in and that one is pretty sweet. Going to get it for my G19 as for this one, he himself said it was no bueno.
They’re not Titanium they’re 7075 aluminum. For the price, it’s the a good option to mount a red dot, but it sits so high up on the slide compared to an end mounted dot. And you lose the ability to run backup irons should your $200-300 optic or (more likely) $20 mount fail. It is a nice concept for something like a range toy, but totally not recommend for concealed carry or home defense. You have more failure points than a stock or rmr slide, it has a bigger profile than both, and realistically, if you’re spending hundreds of dollars on an optic, why not get a slide cut or an rmr slide
I like your opinion! This is just an option if you'd rather not cut your slide. Thanks for your insight!
🙋 Yup. That was me. I installed it every which way.... including red lock tight, but just kept getting loose. I don't blame the device as I'm sure someone with more mechanical experience would have made it work. Probably welding the piece.😁
I just bought another slide with a cut and cool serrations. Now I'm happy.😎
@@jeffofalltrades8489 I tried one of these on my carry gun trying to find the cheapest way to mount a red dot. I felt like it was sturdy but I didn't want to be stacking tolerances (slide to mount to optic vs slide to optic). The additional height of the mount also had me change my presentation as I had to hold my handgun lower in my shooting position to see the dot. It also increased the height over bore, making the point of aim/point of impact greater the further away you got from your zeroed range, negating any real accuracy advantages of having the dot in the first place. I ended up going with a slide cut to retain backup irons and to be able to cowitness the sights. The optic sits much lower with the slide cut and basically let me keep using my aiming/presentation I'm used to with my irons. I still have it and I wouldn't mind throwing it on another gun because I like the fact that is temporary, but realistically that is the only advantage to it. Optics cuts can be had for less than $80 depending where you look, and if you already spent a couple hundred on a dot, the extra $50 over this mount might be more appealing, especially if you want to mount your dot on something permanently.
Yes but they have a aluminum one and a titanium option when. You order
Wow.... Here i was trying to piece together stuff or buy a pre assembled slide with a red dot.... Thank you for the great tip and video. Helped me save quite a bit for my 19G5.
Im so glad i found this video.
Thank you for the support!
Fax I was about to spend 700 with glock store for a new cut slide and this same optic!!
I bought a Glock 21 used with this plate and a Vortex Venom, went from the pawn shop to the gunsmith and had a factory glock rear sight put back on
From a past experience, do yourselves a huge favor and buy a pistol with MOS or have it milled. Installing this plate is a complete mistake.
Any millsmith recommendation?
Glock Dovetail -
Left side to right on removal.
Right side to left on install.
I'm sold!! Great video!!
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I love it’s mounted on rear end of the slide and just as you said is excellent for concealed carry, I have just ordered it for my G 26 👍🏻😉
this is the same way i mounted my holosun 407k red dot with the dpp mounting plate.. first i wasted money trying out the different style/brands of rear sight pusher but i found that none of them work to my liking, plus it wont be able to push the dpp mounting plate on because it's not big enough to fit the dpp plate.. i decided to use a rubber mallet and it worked better than any of the sight pushers i bought plus it didnt leave any marks or damage either. i didnt sand the bottom though, i felt by doing this, it might not sit flush and even. without sanding the bottom, it still went in like butter using the rubber mallet.
how’s the plate & red dot so far?
@@exanuel8023 still working and functioning like a champ!
Love this video…. More money to spend on my red dot!
Nice, this way you can try out different sights without jacking up your slide.
This is when you send your slide off to Boogeyman Customs or one of the million other machine shops who offer this service and get your slide milled for your specific dot. Not only is it by far the strongest, most durable way to mount a RDS to your pistol, but it is also the cleanest looking aesthetically. Easily the best option when it comes to mounting a dot.. It’s really not even close.
I've tried a few red dot equipped pistols and like it very much. Thanks for this video.
Exactly what worked best on my glocks without slide cut.this plate is snug in place and I can’t imagine the red dot moving
Did you take a look at the newest video??? It's a much better product
Interesting, DPP makes good plates.
i have a plate by a different manufacturer on my ruger american. that rear site was not going to come out with a hammer, without damage. it was too tight. i bought a quality site pusher. the advantage is, i can use this pusher on my other pistols, to do more than just install a plate. it has graduated markings, so i can see precisely how far i am moving something. no guess work if i want to install better sites, or re install the old ones. i can also loan it out, or do my buddy's guns for him. the red dot on my american works ok, but i find myself having to hold the pistol at a funny angle to see the dot. once i got used to doing it, target acquisition was quicker, and my grouping improved. i needed the red dot because i'm getting older and my eyes aren't what they used to be.
so far, i'm a couple hundred rounds through it, it's not moving.
It looks pretty clean, but It's kinda silly to suggest that it's better than having the slide milled.
Truglo sight pusher tool
Highly recommend
Dude,. Thanks I didn't know they made this,. Just ordered from Amazon. !
Just pay the $200 for milling and do it the right way. These mounts sit super high, are susceptible to deviation even more so than the rear iron sight, and just suck all around.
everyone keep in mine it’s hanging because the g43 is part of the glock slimline series and is the second smallest glock next to the g42 (the 380 version) so if u get this on a wider gun it might jus look normal. everything looks wonky on the g43 thats why i traded mine in for the 43x besides hating the revolver like capacity of the 43.
G43 and 43x are identical slides
@@lentinikhalsa1 na i know. if u have bigger hands tho try holding a 43x if u haven’t yet its nice and got the front serrations if ur into that
I saw a guy who done something similar like this with a smith an wesson performance center 9mm ez, which is what I have,he had to take the slide off,the screw is under the slide holding the iron sights on,once off,the he simply added the plate an screw,then mounted red dot an boom,man I'm so glad,cause this is my first pistol an thought I'd surely have to have my slide milled,so now I'm excited to get my holosun reflex,to go with my olight baldr s laser light combo.
who knew ? this a great information and it can save a person such as my self alot of money
Excellent, good to know it can be fit without the extra gunsmith work
I work optics at one of the biggest gun stores in the south. We do not carry this product for a reason, it’s junk do not buy. If you’re going to drop 200+ on a 407 or 250+ on a 507k go ahead and get the slide too. Nice vid bro, I just don’t support the manufacturer
Thanks for the instructions. I prefer my sight to be closer to the slide.
Nice job 👏 👍 👌. Thanks for sharing 👍
Only vid I found on the gen 3 so far so thanks was searching for a way to attach a sight.
I did the same on a HK VP9. It is even better because the 'socket' is larger.
To fully support the slide when working on it as was shown in the video, I found it better to drill a good sized hole and droft the sight into the hole. Much easier to handle.
We don't have this issue with the newest product in my most recent video! Check it out... much easier to install and WAY more reliable
Thanks for showing how to do it .. I’m planning to put in my Glock 19 5 gen
Just what I need for my Glock great video thanks. 👍💯
Awesome video. It was well explained! 😊
Omg thank you for this video. I don't want to but a 43x 😂
I'd love a 43X!!! But my wife might get a little upset lol
That's beautiful. Thank you for this one.
Exactly what I was looking for 👊
Always file just one way not back and forth .will stay smooth
iam watching this video 1 year after it was posted! I was curious about other mounting options other then milling the slide. I bought my first glock 19 and it is a MOS wow i thought no need for a dovetail mount now and i can keep my rear sight! Nope red dot sits up to high to co witness with regular size sights because you still have to use a mounting plate. Whats a fella to do now buy suppressor height sites? The Boom i found the scs for glock 19 mos foot print and i can keep my Amiraglo night sights and it needs no battery its fully solar power! Wow in one year the tech has changed so much i cant wate to see what 2023 brings for the gun industry!
Great video, links would be nice for next time.
Just watched your video assembly/lube the hellcat just what I needed after buying one today thanks . Your content is awesome !
This means so much to me! Thank you for the support!
@@jeffofalltrades8489 will be waiting for more content.. notification bell 🔔 turned on 🤟
Of all my pistols that can except dots have dots. I love dots
Check out my newest video for a better option that this one! Even guns that 'Cant' accept dots, now they can!
Great video 👍
Thank you very much for the support !
Cool video dude
Dueck Defense also makes a similar product for Glocks. Some models even have back up irons.
Nice video thanks buddy
I just send mine out to get milled the day I buy them... lead times usually never too long and i cant deal with the raised plates i dont buy MOS ready models for this same reason. Def a great option for getting a MOS on asap im just a profile who**
Great video and very informative, I wonder if it can work on my canik tp9 sf it's the same as your glocks. Take care and keep up the great work.
I love that little 9 lol
Great video Jeff!
Great install video.
Thank you. Let us know how it holds up after 300 rounds.
Holding up great! Use the locktite like you should, and there shouldn't be any problems!
@@jeffofalltrades8489 Glad it worked out for you. I installed one on my G19, but I'm sure I didn't do it right because it kept getting loose. So, I bit the bullet and paid for an RMR cut and professional installation.
Bought Glock 20. Your video explains well how to add plate and red dot when no predrilled holes available. Thank you
I appreciate your positivity!
A bit of JB wield work just fine
Outstanding review. I'm buying one now
Excellent. Thank you very much
Great video, thanks!🇺🇸
Thanks for this , I was looking to do this for my Glocks .
Good job bro ,so us that are considering this option have some kind of idea just what we're looking at , will help us make a decision if we still wanna go this route or not , thanks
So glad I could help! Thank you for the support!
When I liked this video the 9.1k rolled over to 9.2k and that's the first time I've ever seen that happen live
I didn't know DPP make a mount for non mos slides. Cool.
Thank you.... My setup (same as yours) comes in a couple days and will be mounted on a Glock 30. Hoping for the best.
How is it, did you mount it on
Good job Jeff
Any issues with zeroing in your holosun 507k? I did this exact process and used a bore site to laser it in but the 507k bottoms out just a half inch to a full inch below the bore site. I’m assuming this was a defunct sight but wanted your opinion on zeroing in if you had any issues
Very high up on that slide.
Thanks cuz I was how to.. great video
Would be even better if the optic itself had the dovetail on it so you wouldn’t even need the melt
wow...getting the rear sights off, and the new one on was such a pain to hammer lol (no vise slide thing lol). the original glock sight was damaged, but good thing the new one was steal (ameriglow).
Thanks for this info I didn’t
want to drill holes in my slide
This is a great option for that!
Why not? Are you afraid the gun can feel pain?
where do I get a DPP Mount?
This is exactly what I need instead of having it get milled for and plated for $250 and they would probably just do the same thing great video bro
I appreciate it, but please check out my video with Dove Mount!!!!
@@jeffofalltrades8489 I did right after lol will definitely be going with the dove mount thinner plate and has sights just have to wait 6 more days till I can pickup my Glock 17 stupid California law
@@Koseenanat hey 6 days is better than 6 months!!! Let me know how it all turns out!
@@jeffofalltrades8489 hey brother I get my G17 on Sunday was wondering where can I get the dove mount from?
My issue is that I can’t get the sight to zero in perfectly since it sits too high. Is there a fix for this?
Yes, send your slide to C and H precision and have your optic installed properly with a mill job. Plus, you'll have back up irons as well.
Nice! Easy tutorial.