Sonic Superstars Is A CASH GRAB And SEGA Should Be EMBARRASSED This Costs $60

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • I'm not too happy with how Sonic Superstars turned out. There's a lot of positivity floating around the Internet for this game right now but I just cant be silent about my experience with this game or pretned to like it as a Sonic fan. I hope this video saves some of you out there $60+, wait for a sale...
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Комментарии • 343

  • @PeteDorr
    @PeteDorr  11 месяцев назад +41

    Something I think I forgot to mention is that I feel like this game is worth trying for casual Sonic/platformer fans when it drops to $20-30. It’s just a dissapointing experience for $60 on release.

    • @jasmith85
      @jasmith85 8 месяцев назад +1

      I agree this is a cash grab, and I prefer Sonic 4 over this. The only redeeming feature I found with Sonic game is the animated cut scenes that's it. I can't see anything that is good about this just everything is bad.

    • @gamingwithahandicapreviews
      @gamingwithahandicapreviews 4 месяца назад

      @@jasmith85i feel like I agree with Pete’s points but sonic superstar’s is a masterpiece compared to Sonic 4 let’s be real

  • @Nintendofan4000
    @Nintendofan4000 11 месяцев назад +14

    "Why not make another Mania?"
    Funny you should ask that. The Mania Team turned down working on this project cause they and Sonic Team couldn't see eye to eye on where the project was headed. Fancy that...

    • @IHeart16Bit
      @IHeart16Bit 11 месяцев назад +10

      Entirely on Sonic Team in my eye. Mania is the only good Sonic game to release in YEARS, they should have been given the reigns immediately. Japanese developer pride I guess.

    • @leon4000
      @leon4000 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@IHeart16Bit Someone must have been embarrassed and jealous that Sonic Mania was a better game than what Sega put out....

  • @alyx4436
    @alyx4436 10 месяцев назад +10

    What you described with the boss battles tells me exactly what the game is like because that is the exact opposite of how bosses work in classic 2d sonic games. In the og games, if you are skilled enough you can rush the boss by bouncing off Robotniks head repeatedly, it is actually really fun to do on repeat playthroughs.

  • @SubscriptNine
    @SubscriptNine 11 месяцев назад +18

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts Pete. This has moved from my "wait until it's heavily discounted" list to "maybe check it out from my local library"

    • @user-vi4xy1jw7e
      @user-vi4xy1jw7e 10 месяцев назад +3

      Heaven forbid you think for yourself

  • @SirCaco
    @SirCaco 11 месяцев назад +8

    "The camera is really zoomed in" is the BIGGEST turnoff ever in the history of ever when it comes to these games. I understand it used to be a hardware limitation, but damn, it's 2023! Why is the camera zoomed in still? You wanna make a game where you "gotta go fast" but can't see what's in front of you, c'mon...

    • @JBird401
      @JBird401 11 месяцев назад +3

      I get your complaint but i also hate when the camera is too zoomed out too.

    • @SirCaco
      @SirCaco 10 месяцев назад

      @@JBird401 Sure, there's gotta be some kind of compromise. Maybe don't keep the character centered on the screen, but off towards the corner opposite to where you're looking... but then don't make the transition from right to left too fast when you turn around or it would get disorienting, I don't know, these guys do this for a living, there's no way they can't figure something out.

  • @Grimmtombobulus
    @Grimmtombobulus 10 месяцев назад +7

    Fully agree. For £20 it would have been fair, but £60! I feel very ripped off. It's such a shame too. With a bit more polish in the animations, a little tweaking to the the physics (I have no idea why they nerfed the spindash and Knuckles' glide), and a bit more care put into cohesiveness like level transitions and the Act structure, this could have quite easily been a lot better.
    Glad to hear it looks quite bad on PS5 too. It looks very blurry and aliased on Switch and I was afraid I was missing out on a vast improvement on PlayStation.

    • @JBird401
      @JBird401 10 месяцев назад

      Load times are bad on Switch. Wondering if the load times are better on ps4 or ps5

  • @aries993
    @aries993 10 месяцев назад +13

    I have to agree I’m pretty disappointed with it after spending $60. The first 2 zones are pretty good but then things fall apart with levels that go on for too long with boring set pieces and level design. Bosses also take too long to defeat with 90% of the fights waiting and dodging for an opening. Felt like a slog to finish

  • @SuperChaosControl
    @SuperChaosControl 10 месяцев назад +8

    Finally, someone actually says exactly what I was feeling while playing the game. I felt like I was alone when I was playing and everyone was raving about Superstars and as I was playing I was just disappointed.
    I got about 80% done with the game then I decided to delete it off my console because I can't find myself to finish the game due to it not being fun, and it just frustrating to play.
    I'm just so disappointed with this release and I guess I'm also disappointed with myself for being hopeful that this might be a good title, but alas this is Sega we are talking about. They should have just brought the Sonic Mania team to make another Classic Sonic Title and it would have been WAY better than this garbage we got.

    • @madman9040
      @madman9040 10 месяцев назад +3

      Facts

    • @alonsobazo4619
      @alonsobazo4619 7 месяцев назад +1

      It was also developed by Arzest, the studio behind Balan WonderWorld, so...

  • @Tenacityfromtheglass
    @Tenacityfromtheglass 7 месяцев назад +2

    I spent 8 hours on the final fight in sekiro and i was on the edge of my seat with excitement the whole time. I spent 10 minutes on a boss in sonic superstars and had an existential crisis about my limited time on this earth.

  • @user-mx7rm7mr4c
    @user-mx7rm7mr4c 10 месяцев назад +18

    Everything you felt with the game is 100% what I felt. Superstars is not a good game. Should've been a $30 release at the most. Absolutely the worst Sonic game I've ever played in a long time, and this is coming from a guy that had a somewhat decent time with Sonic '06. I absolutely adore all the 2D Sonic genesis games, and Sonic Mania is one of my favorite games of all time, but Superstars failed to recapture the magic on so many levels. All the Metacritic positivity is coming from bots and Sonic fanboys trying inflate the score to combat Super Mario Wonder. Hella childish IMO.

  • @Kyubbi8082
    @Kyubbi8082 10 месяцев назад +7

    Appreciate the insight! I, too, am a huge Sonic fan (first game I ever played 25 years ago was OG Sonic on the Genesis, and I've played the majority of the franchise), and I was genuinely excited about this release. Having seen stuff on it now though, I'll definitely wait for a deep discount before snagging it. Especially with how stacked 2023 has been for game releases, that $60 can go to something more worthwhile.

  • @videogameobsession
    @videogameobsession 11 месяцев назад +11

    Sega made a tragic mistake when they didn't keep the Sonic Mania team onboard. Their new game, Penny's Big Breakaway, looks really great though. I'm looking forward to that. -Matt

  • @ryezio3637
    @ryezio3637 8 месяцев назад +3

    Sonic Frontiers is the best Sonic game since Generations. Hope they focus on that kind of game moving forward.

  • @WearyTerry1220
    @WearyTerry1220 11 месяцев назад +14

    Great game to play with your kids. Not “zoomed in” when you play multiplayer. Love it.

    • @PeteDorr
      @PeteDorr  10 месяцев назад +8

      Thanks for confirming. I mentioned how it;’s likely w good game for kids but then I got to the final boss and wondered how the heck they would beat it without some kind of “help/handicap” mode or something.

  • @IHeart16Bit
    @IHeart16Bit 11 месяцев назад +3

    What a shame. The spark of Sonic Team has been absent for many many years. They are a poor quality developer that have been making poor quality games for longer than i care to keep track of.
    SEGA management not overruling Sonic Team after Mania's success and just handing the keys to Whitehead's team baffles me to this day.

  • @soccerj75
    @soccerj75 10 месяцев назад +7

    Nearly 25 years of watching PeteDorr, i don't think i've ever seen him more disappointed in a video game before. I ended up buying it at launch day just because im a collector and SOnic is my favorite Franchise of all time, however, you're right, Pete! It should've been priced at $30. Last time i get a Sonic game at release again.

    • @jossy201trm3
      @jossy201trm3 9 месяцев назад

      25 years how is this channel so old OmmmO

    • @ryezio3637
      @ryezio3637 8 месяцев назад

      25...? His channel's only existed for 16 years aha. D'you mean 15?

  • @skull902
    @skull902 10 месяцев назад +3

    Just beat the game about half an hour ago. The gameplay is good even if the different physics compared to 2/3&K/CD/Mania take some getting used to, the level design is mostly pretty solid, and the presentation is lovely with some gorgeous visuals, level themes, and music (though the latter lacks memorability)
    Would be a solid 7.5/10 game if the bosses weren't total garbage most of the time. That really bogs it down to being just okay. Definitely confirms my suspicions that it's certainly not worth the $60 they're asking for (very lucky/thankful to have been gifted the game instead).

  • @ryezio3637
    @ryezio3637 8 месяцев назад +1

    SEGA need to treat Sonic the same way Activision treat Crash Bandicoot.
    Crash Team Rumble and Crash Team Rumble Nitro Fueled released at a lower price but still offered tons of content.

  • @italianstallion2944
    @italianstallion2944 10 месяцев назад +3

    Not a cash grab! Just a great game made for older fans. But being an old like game with up graded graphics I do agree that asking for $60 bucks for the game os way too much! Should be $40 dollars.

    • @ro25988
      @ro25988 10 месяцев назад

      He mentioned being an old fan from the 90’s at the very beginning of the video for a reason

  • @mikeyboombox
    @mikeyboombox 11 месяцев назад +11

    I thought this game looked really good, but I wasn’t going to pay $60 for it. To me this is a Black Friday purchase. Sonic frontiers saw a good discount last year so I’d imagine this will go on sale then for $35-40.
    After hearing your thoughts I will probably wait till it hits $30 or less. I have quite the backlog to get through anyways

  • @MilkWasABadChoice17
    @MilkWasABadChoice17 11 месяцев назад +2

    The game isn't perfect. It definitely has its issues, but I don't know if its THAT bad. It's definitely geared toward a younger audience. My biggest gripe is the lack of content, this is a 4 hour game and they really had the balls to charge $60 at release, absolutely NOT worth it at that price. It'll be $20 before you know it (which is what they should have charged). Multiplayer is complete garbage and worthless, especially with no one playing. Its very evident Sega is on its high horse again with Sonic and they're definitely skimping on development resources/timelines. This game could have used another six months to a year to bake in the oven and added a bunch more content, but nope they had to shove this out for the holidays.

    • @PeteDorr
      @PeteDorr  10 месяцев назад +2

      I think I let myself get too carried away in the negatives in this video, but I agree the game is like a 6/10 ish kinda game for me. Cut the multiplayer, make it maybe $25 and I would have been way less harsh on it.

    • @leon4000
      @leon4000 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@PeteDorr He's not wrong. Sega did it again. And I'm willing to bet Arzest, the guys who did Balan Wonderland wanted to really complete this game right. But Sega wouldn't let them have it. Poor Sonic Mania devs and Arzest....Sega STOP TRYING TO COMPETE SO FOOLISHLY, THIS IS THE SAME CRUD WHY SONIC 06 AND EVEN THEIR GAME SYSTEMS DEVELOPMENT WENT INTO THE GUTTER!

  • @MastaGambit
    @MastaGambit 10 месяцев назад +2

    Regardless of whether Sega is embarrassed or not, I'M embarrassed for having _bought_ it at that price. -_-
    I impulse-bought this game solely due to peer-pressure-based fomo cuz my friends around me were buying it too. Now I wish i'd just pirated the Switch version initially instead. Especially after seeing that the Co-op has no online. >_>
    Unless some drastic miracle occurs, I am NOT buying the next 2D Sonic game. Sega's not swindling me again. High seas from hereon out.

  • @SoulResonance1
    @SoulResonance1 11 месяцев назад +1

    I work in a game store, I played it at PAX early on both the ps5 and switch oled, I had a pretty reasonable time playing those demos with the water ability being the only extra power you can use.
    I picked up the game on switch and played it in the comfort of my home. Played it for 45 minutes, about 7-10 stages and looked at the battle mode and felt so used. I didn't know how to describe it at the time, other than thinking that they made this game with Lego money, very quickly. And that it was wasting my time.
    The nail in the coffin was the 20 seconds I spent in whatever tf that battle mode was. I knew EXACTLY the kind of game I was playing when I saw those literal 20 seconds before I shut the whole game off and put it back in my bag ready to return.
    After around 10 main story stages, I found that I hadn't actualy used any of the powers from the gems in ways I thought i'd be able to use them. The water one in the demo gave me the idea that the game may be asking me to slow down and explore more and thiknk outside the box to find secret areas to break up the speed segments. This just.. wasn't the case? They're entirely optional power ups from what I saw, to the point that I just didnt use them because I forgot I had access, and that didn't impede my level progress?? Whats the point then??
    I looooooooove so many aspects of the Sonic franchise. I've been a fan and also a collector of Sonic things for 20 years, and much like Pete, I haven't been this let down by a Sonic game in years. Entirely a quick holiday sales cash grab with little thought and care put in to the extra side parts of the game, let alone the base story mode. A shame really

    • @PeteDorr
      @PeteDorr  11 месяцев назад

      You surmise how I felt about this as well, except I gave the multiplayer a few attempts just to make sure I wasn’t nashing something that I didn’t quite understand but the multiplayer really is absolutely terrible.

    • @ctpp64
      @ctpp64 9 месяцев назад

      so many of these sound like skill issues lmao

  • @stranger0-00
    @stranger0-00 11 месяцев назад +1

    I haven't played it, but I pretty immediately decided I'd wait for the game to hit the bargain bin when the 60$ tag was revealed despite being a Sonic fan. Sonic games (both 2D and 3D) have been less than MSRP for a long time, presumably in relation to content-to-cost considerations. With Frontiers, I can see why they'd go for a higher price, but Superstars' content on its face and the prior precedent of the price of 2D entries at a third of what they're charging completely pushed me out of the early purchase camp. Super Mario Wonder being announced sealed the deal, as 2D Mario games tend to have more content in about 2 Worlds than a 2D Sonic game has in its entire run time. Going from 8 to 12 Zones isn't enough to remotely offset that reality or justify what they're asking for.
    Maybe I'll grab it one day, but now? No thanks.

  • @dylanmelanson2419
    @dylanmelanson2419 10 месяцев назад +1

    I'm more surprised about above average rating you gave it at the end, 6/10 after all that? I was imagining a 2/10 the way you described all the problems and none of the plus sides.

  • @lubby9438
    @lubby9438 11 месяцев назад +9

    I really enjoyed playing Superstars, but I do agree the game should've been $40 at most given how quick you can complete the game. Honestly I feel like the odd one out for enjoying the game lol

    • @PeteDorr
      @PeteDorr  11 месяцев назад +8

      Nah it’s fine, people can have different opinions. I’m glad people enjoy it even at 60, I just felt pretty burned by Sega with this one and had to vent.

    • @lubby9438
      @lubby9438 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@PeteDorrI totally get that. Actually, I just played the unlocked part some more and it made me question if it was worth paying $60 for it. The later levels in particular were just not fun to go back to, and the bosses were even more tedious. What worked I really liked, but it makes me kind of bummed out that the flaws make it seem like the game's not worth the price.

    • @samza9233
      @samza9233 10 месяцев назад +3

      I love the game as well, don't worry you arent the only one. I actually think the increased challenge in this game is welcome.

    • @portalgaming8057
      @portalgaming8057 10 месяцев назад

      @@PeteDorr Hello, what were your thoughts on Trip, the new villain?

  • @Dafunnyman69
    @Dafunnyman69 10 месяцев назад +1

    This game DEFINITELY drove Me to the point of not wanting to buy another Sonic Game ever again.
    What was the point of them making Me collect the chaos emeralds when they gatekeep the final boss behind some stupid character's story????
    I thought this was classic sonic game not fucking Sonic adventure.
    I ended up spoiling Myself because I was getting sick of the sodding boss fights (And putting up with the EXTREMELY SLOW super trip form.) only to find out it's just some stupid fat purple dragon with no backstory.
    Thanks alot Sega. The fact that You made Me pay 60 dollars for this alone makes Me hate sonic now.

  • @RM2011ish
    @RM2011ish 10 месяцев назад +1

    I've been a Sonic fan my whole life and I can honestly say Sonic Superstars is Mid. Not horrible. Not great. Just mid. I still enjoyed it, yet I still had issues with it. I really wanted another Sonic Mania because that is honestly my favorite game in the entire franchise.
    But I guess Sega said, "Nah fam, we can do fine without Christian Whitehead." But the reality is no.....they can't.
    The fact that Iizuka said Pixel art is "outdated" troubles me even more.

  • @EpicPaul64
    @EpicPaul64 10 месяцев назад

    Renting games should be brought up more. If you don't like a game enough to spend full price, rent it for a bit, give it back when you're done, and then rent more games to make up for it.

  • @GodsMAySpeed
    @GodsMAySpeed 11 месяцев назад +2

    100% agree. I midly enjoyed the first few stages enough, but the second you start Press Factory, the game gets 100x worse and unenjoyable. Also glad to see everyone agree that the bosses are horrible. Constantly having to retry the final boss made me actually exhausted and sleepy, something that has never happened before when playing a video game lol.
    Also this game exists only because they couldn't make Mania 2. I've heard rumors of how they screwed over the Mania devs, but I'm not entirely sure.

    • @PeteDorr
      @PeteDorr  10 месяцев назад +3

      Worst final boss I’ve fought in years…

  • @goldensyrupgamingshow2978
    @goldensyrupgamingshow2978 10 месяцев назад +1

    Seems obvious that Sega never put much budget towards a sonic game and why would they. It always sells loads and so they always make money. They are a business so at the end of the day thats all that matters to them

    • @retrofan4963
      @retrofan4963 10 месяцев назад

      That's how I feel Nintendo is treating Mario for a long time. NSMB series feels bland and are not that good games and the new Paper Mario games suck compared to the first three Paper Mario games. It's like Nintendo knows they can get away with not putting much effort in Mario games and gain much profit anyway because Mario is a popular IP.

    • @goldensyrupgamingshow2978
      @goldensyrupgamingshow2978 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@retrofan4963 I WONDER what they will do about that

  • @RetroRelicZone
    @RetroRelicZone 10 месяцев назад +1

    I agree with everything you said! I had the same thoughts, the chaos emerald stages are so bad!! I feel like Donkey Kong swinging on vines... Sega has F'ed up so much, I hope they get bought out soon and Sonic can be restored to his greatness.

  • @the_mooch
    @the_mooch 11 месяцев назад +3

    I balked at the 60$ price..and glad I did now.

  • @megamob5834
    @megamob5834 11 месяцев назад +3

    I was pretty excited about this game until I saw the price point. So I figured I would check out some reviews and maybe wait for it to go on sale. I still might do that, but after watching this I think it would have to be a used copy for $20 or less lol

  • @YerNewUncle
    @YerNewUncle 11 месяцев назад +3

    "There's something up with this game."
    Yeah, Arzest made it.

    • @leon4000
      @leon4000 10 месяцев назад

      The guys who Balan Wonderland with Yuji Naka... Crud....

  • @WaddleDee105
    @WaddleDee105 11 месяцев назад +2

    I appreciate you sharing your opinion, which is different from a lot of the fanbase. There's been a lot of toxic positivity within the Sonic fanbase as of late. Frontiers was what I'd call a genuine embarrassment but the fanbase ate it up and attacked anyone who dared to criticize it. That all said, a few of your points seem weird to me. Admittedly, I haven't played the game yet (gonna wait till Black Friday at least) but your complaint about the camera being too zoomed in is very odd to me. All the footage I've seen, including reviews, shows a more zoomed out camera than previous 2D Sonic games. I also don't see the short length being an issue. I do agree that the game is way too expensive. It should've been $30 at most.
    Still, worse Sonic game since Ryse of Lyric? Frontiers was a complete shitshow to me. I can't imagine Superstars being worse. Also, gotta bring up how you defended the Godzilla PS4 game. Not saying that completely devalues your opinions here but you've defended some real hot garbage in the past so I'm a little confused why THIS is the game to really frustrate you. It looks like a pretty harmless, but overpriced game. The lack of new innovations and short length aren't an issue at all. If anything, the Sonic franchise is full of games that are TOO experimental and too padding for their own good. Still, it's nice to see an opinion that isn't "This game is peak and anyone that as an issue with it isn't a true Sonic fan!". 👍

    • @PeteDorr
      @PeteDorr  10 месяцев назад +2

      I wanted the focus of the video to be on how overpriced the game is but I admit I got caught up in only focusing on the negatives of the game. I will also never stop defending my love for Godzilla PS4. It’s my favorite godzilla game of all time and for me perfectly captures the feeling of playering a godzilla film battle scene. I fplaued lots of online myltiplayer in that game back when it was new and that was s ton of fun. Not having the ability to really do online anymore certainly devalues the fun of that game unfortunately.

    • @EasyCartoonDrawingTutorials
      @EasyCartoonDrawingTutorials 7 месяцев назад

      Frontiers was pretty good. Not terrible, not amazing.

    • @WaddleDee105
      @WaddleDee105 7 месяцев назад

      @@EasyCartoonDrawingTutorials You can feel that way if you want but I highly disagree.

  • @shrobbyy
    @shrobbyy 11 месяцев назад +1

    Super Mario Bros. Wonder Is A CASH GRAB And Nintendo Should Be EMBARRASSED This Costs $60 (because no 2D platformer no matter which should cost fucking $60)
    I got Sonic Superstars for 51€ btw. and I love it. I also got Mario Wonder for 55€ and I will love it too!

    • @PeteDorr
      @PeteDorr  11 месяцев назад +2

      Comparing this game to Mario Wonder is quite bold. I’m glad you enjoyed Sonic though, it’s just not for me and I think most people will be best off waiting until it’s much cheaper to play it.

    • @shrobbyy
      @shrobbyy 11 месяцев назад

      @@PeteDorr I'm comparing the price tag which shouldn't be $60 for both games

  • @MarkerMurker
    @MarkerMurker 10 месяцев назад

    I just finished watching your playthrough of the main story. This game had the involvement of Naoto Oshima, who directed Sonic CD. So I can understand the reservations with the level design if people were expecting something simplistic like Sonic 2. It's closer to CD in a lot of ways than the Genesis games.
    The battle mode is no good, I agree. But that was never the main selling point, it was the local co-op.
    About the camera, it's supposed to scale Sonic to be pretty close to his size on the Genesis games.
    The replay value of those games to begin with was learning the levels and routing them to get through faster.
    The chaos emerald powers aren't necessary because the emeralds themselves have always been optional collectibles in these games. That doesn't make them useless or tacked on, they're an extra like always.
    The bosses were most likely designed the way they were to avoid cheesing through co-op. But they can still be significantly sped up through use of the emerald powers. It's cohesive, thought out design that takes into account all the features.
    I'd argue that the price is more about how they rearranged hazards and level design for Trip to make it a Hard Mode. The things they changed are pretty significant and I'd say it's worth it. Not to mention the level design in general makes me really think about how I want to speed through.
    About Fang, he becomes the final boss of Trip's story. A different boss from the one in the main story entirely. I liked it more.

  • @Flipendo64
    @Flipendo64 11 месяцев назад +4

    I saw on Steam they sent the game without denuvo to reviewers and then after launch they patched it in which made the performance worse. Modern sega are so greedy

  • @johnross3012
    @johnross3012 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for being honest, bro. I'm a huge Sonic and Sega fan but this is a step backwards

  • @MistaJonz
    @MistaJonz 10 месяцев назад

    Like you I’m also a hardcore Sonic fan, have been since the first game on Genesis. I also collect all the action figures, comics and DVD/Bluray releases. I also tend to buy every Sonic game that’s released and there’s only been a handful I didn’t care for but I still play them. Superstars however, I guess I’m on the other side cause I absolutely love it. Sure there are a few things here and there that bother me, but that’s pretty much any game for me, not just Sonic. My only real gripes with this one are some of the boss fights and their length, the price, and that’s really it for me. Other than that I’ve been playing and enjoying it everyday since I got my copy.

  • @AnotherSonicFanboy
    @AnotherSonicFanboy 5 месяцев назад +2

    It should've been $40

  • @cjtquk
    @cjtquk 9 месяцев назад +1

    It is an okay game but I'd rather have a Sonic Mania 2 than this. The bosses kill off any replayabilty.

  • @allknowing-iu8jt
    @allknowing-iu8jt 9 месяцев назад +1

    As much as I disagree with you it's on sale now for just 35$

  • @PeteDorr
    @PeteDorr  11 месяцев назад +7

    If you played Sonic Superstars, what did you think?

    • @EntertainMeTV
      @EntertainMeTV 11 месяцев назад +4

      Agree, $40 would have been a fair price for this. I'll stick with Mania and even Origins.

    • @mariosonickirby1
      @mariosonickirby1 11 месяцев назад +1

      5.5 at best

    • @earlyriser03
      @earlyriser03 11 месяцев назад +4

      I enjoyed Superstars. While I feel Mania is more successful at capturing the spirit of the classic series overall, I do appreciate Arzest’s attempt to build something a little different on that classic foundation.
      Like Sonic CD, it certainly leans more into platforming, exploration of increasingly intricate, sometimes odd, level layouts, and light puzzling while generally being a faster experience. I also appreciate the team’s dedication to studying and emulating the Classic Sonic physics as well. They’re not perfect, falling in some gray space between Mania’s and the Classic tetralogy’s, however, they generally feel very good after some acclimation. Certainly better than most other 2.5D Sonic attempts I’ve played in the last decade.
      Final bits…bosses are middling to maddening, the OST is a very mixed bag, the graphics are ok but I would have preferred pixel art, and I got the game for $30 due to Gamestop discounts.
      While I’m glad I didn’t pay full price, I don’t agree with the assertion that this was a cash grab. The directions taken won’t be to everyone’s liking and I missed some extras (where’s our sound test?), but this game was better than I could have hoped for.

    • @adriantovias8681
      @adriantovias8681 11 месяцев назад

      Just go play mania, forget about this bad game.

    • @Gamingwithahandicap
      @Gamingwithahandicap 11 месяцев назад

      Instead of making cashgrabs they should just put all their effort into making the Sonic game fans have waited for for 22 years, Sonic Adventure 3 I mean think about it a game with multiple playable characters a good story and gameplay we haven’t really had that since Sonic Unleashed and that was 2008! Not judging those who loved superstars but Sega can be so much better

  • @Imoenn
    @Imoenn 10 месяцев назад

    The zoomed in camera is what caused me to put the game on pause, I've played a lot of bad platformers and a zoomed in camera in a 2D platformer is always a nightmare to play, certainly when it's a fast game.

  • @therealmrarchive
    @therealmrarchive 9 месяцев назад

    To think if SEGA just paid Christian White heads team the amount they were asking for, we could have had Sonic Mania 2 right now

  • @johnross3012
    @johnross3012 10 месяцев назад +1

    No, he's right. This is just Sonic 4 part 3 with a new coat of paint and Wisp powers exchanged for Chaos Emerald power. Not worth $60 and I bought it (and Frontiers just in case you were asking). This doesn't come close to Sonic 1, 2 or 3

  • @forbiddensuper2369
    @forbiddensuper2369 10 месяцев назад +1

    I’m gonna wait for a steam sale when I buy it

  • @daggersnight1373
    @daggersnight1373 11 месяцев назад +3

    Been watching you for years Pete and I agree that you are one of the biggest fans of Sonic out there. If your upset at it then it really means something. On that note what Sonic games do you recommend?

    • @PeteDorr
      @PeteDorr  10 месяцев назад +6

      I’ll recommend one of the most underrated Sonic games out there for you. Sonic Boom: Fire and Ice on 3DS. Great game that never gets any attention or love

  • @VidiverseExplorer
    @VidiverseExplorer 11 месяцев назад

    My rule is that any game in my collection that doesn't score at least a 7 in my opinion gets sold, so that someone else who'll enjoy it can have it instead.

  • @JoseGregorioValeroVillarroel
    @JoseGregorioValeroVillarroel 24 дня назад

    I really don't care about this anymore...
    Why should I even say a game is bad because some people say it? I'll admit, I actually want to try the game. But a bunch of videos bashing it held me back from doing it, so I had no other choice than joining them. *But no more.* As a autistic Sonic fan, I'm sure I'm going to end up enjoying the game.
    Edit: If the people I've replied to in this video see this, please IGNORE my replies! This is actually the real me! I'm actually exited for Superstars(even if I still like to call it Supersucks lol) and I want to play it!

  • @Darule514
    @Darule514 11 месяцев назад +1

    The game will probably be on sale during Black Friday and that is when I'm going to wait to buy.

    • @PeteDorr
      @PeteDorr  11 месяцев назад

      Likely in buy 2 get 1 sales, so ~$40 equivalent

  • @mammamiawhygod2091
    @mammamiawhygod2091 10 месяцев назад

    I thought the Sonic 4 comparisons were surface level at first but this game genuinely feels like it was meant to be a far cheaper game and they just tried to make it come off as a actual big release when it just isn't.

  • @segaofmyhouse
    @segaofmyhouse 10 месяцев назад

    Hopefully this game goes down in price for Black Friday or Christmas sales, definitely not worth full game price.

  • @geminisfl
    @geminisfl 10 месяцев назад +1

    To be honest, this is the kind of game that makes me feel fine about modding my switch. I played this game, saw how boring and glitchy it was, and removed it from my console. If I would have payed 60€ (I'm in Spain) for this, I would have punched myself in the face. The fact companies release these games in such a horrid, unfinished, and unpolished state should be a shame to the industry. And to make matters worse, you don't even have acces to a demo to be able to decide if you want it or not. They don't release a demo because they KNOW the game is not good. It's like being cheated with false advertising. The least you expect from a game is to be FINISHED and TESTED; and this is not the case (at least with the Switch version).
    So I'm glad I downloaded, installed, played, uninstalled and forgot about it.

  • @Skidderstreams
    @Skidderstreams 11 месяцев назад

    Clicked this vid got a sonic superstars ad before it even played😂

  • @UltraZelda64
    @UltraZelda64 День назад

    Sonic Superstars was not a bad game, and while it may have been over-priced by about twenty bucks, to be fair Sonic Mania was under-priced. It was certainly not a cash grab. In my opinion the game is good but not great, and it's certainly worth $40 if you see it on sale for that.

  • @NostalgiaGaming
    @NostalgiaGaming 11 месяцев назад +4

    Pretty surprised by this. The game looked so quality from the trailers. May still pick this up on a

    • @PeteDorr
      @PeteDorr  10 месяцев назад +1

      If you watch my reaction to the trailer I was also impressed, they did a good job editing it.

  • @SuperTrainStationH
    @SuperTrainStationH 10 месяцев назад

    Wow, guess I dropped in on the stream at the exact moment before you started to not feel the sunshine, cause I thought you were having a great time. :p

  • @VegasAceVII
    @VegasAceVII 10 месяцев назад

    I can see why Pete would pay full MSRP but we need to be more hesitant these days.

  • @adamdam
    @adamdam 10 месяцев назад +1

    I was keeping a far eye on this one, it looked crap to me and everyone was saying how good it was, glad your vid condirmed a lot of my feelings of it. Because i loved Frontiers!

  • @DarkKnightMare
    @DarkKnightMare 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks Pete, was gonna get this on steam but they yet again decided to use Denuvo which i don't support. So opted out and after hearing your thoughts on the game I'm glad i did. I loved Mania and that will last me another 10 years.

    • @l.j.nguyen2586
      @l.j.nguyen2586 10 месяцев назад +1

      Man, I hate Denuvo. Whenever I see a game on Steam that uses Denuvo, I click on ignore and move on. Sega really needs to stop doing that. It’s really annoying, SMH.

  • @timezones88
    @timezones88 10 месяцев назад +2

    PSA: If you’re going to take someone’s word for it when it comes to Sonic games…. LISTEN TO PETE!

    • @jordanking7711
      @jordanking7711 10 месяцев назад +1

      You shouldn’t be talking anybody’s word for it. It’s an opinion, and one person’s experience may be different to another at the end of the day.

  • @johndowdy8085
    @johndowdy8085 10 месяцев назад +1

    I bought it yesterday for series x and I'm really enjoying it

  • @NintenDub
    @NintenDub 11 месяцев назад +1

    I thought it looked cool,looked ok. But i knew i wasnt buying it for 60 when.mario wonder is coming out. Ill maybe...maybe buy it later used or when its 20$

  • @TheNintendoWizrad
    @TheNintendoWizrad 10 месяцев назад

    Seems like the ubisoft strategy of releasing for 60 bucks. Get the mega fans and suckered to buy it at full price. Then heavily discount after 2 months.

  • @BronzeLincolns81
    @BronzeLincolns81 10 месяцев назад

    With how these games have sold over the years, Sega just needs to go back to the mania formula and make genesis style Sonic games.
    Sonic fan will have nothing else apparently.

  • @Ostnizdasht206
    @Ostnizdasht206 11 месяцев назад +1

    Sonic Maker would be awesome.

  • @VideoGameStupidLC
    @VideoGameStupidLC 10 месяцев назад

    Man... this game and Mario Wonder really shit the bed with bosses this time around...

  • @KnucklestheEcidna
    @KnucklestheEcidna 9 месяцев назад

    From what I've seen in the trailers they SERIOUSLY STILL CANNOT let the wisps power go can they? those chaos emerald powers is just the WISPS powers from colors AGAIN. So dumb. how much longer are they going to keep those stupid power ups around?

  • @MetroAndroid
    @MetroAndroid 10 месяцев назад

    Sorry to hear about your experience with Sonic Superstars, Pete, but I'm loving the Halloween décor!

  • @Parz03
    @Parz03 10 месяцев назад

    Video Game fans when a company thats specifically designed to make money puts out a product that makes money

  • @princessgamerxo7713
    @princessgamerxo7713 11 месяцев назад +2

    I think it’s decent but could better. It’s more enjoyable to me than Sonic Frontiers 🙈

  • @STAXONDECK1
    @STAXONDECK1 10 месяцев назад

    You can use the Chaos emerald powers to hit the bosses when your not suppose to be able to hit ‘em

  • @PhilBoyd-uq8fi
    @PhilBoyd-uq8fi 9 месяцев назад

    Yu are a real pioneer of the RUclips retro gaming community pete

  • @TheMountainman14
    @TheMountainman14 11 месяцев назад

    Pete can you please do a room tour video? I remember watching the first one around 15 years ago. It would be awesome to get a new one for us subs who have been here since the beginning. Thanks!

  • @dimensiongamer534
    @dimensiongamer534 11 месяцев назад +1

    I haven't played it yet, but it sounds like I might like it more than you did, Was looking for a simple platformer to play, but I'll find out how it plays when I get to it after I finish other games.

    • @geminisfl
      @geminisfl 10 месяцев назад +1

      My advice: use those 60$ to buy ANY other indie platformer out there. I have played many of them, more polished, more fun, and cheaper than this. I would gladly give my money to any indie developer than SEGA for this game.

  • @brutaljustin1349
    @brutaljustin1349 10 месяцев назад +2

    The blandness of this game reminded me of other recent bland side scrollers like Hey Pikmin and Yoshi's New Island, which is fitting since this is the same developer as those games lol.

  • @xxnike0629xx
    @xxnike0629xx 11 месяцев назад

    That's kind of weird how a 'current' gen game is $60 and not the full $70. On top of that the game is short and the levels are not as good.
    I've heard similar things said about this from other videos.
    They should totally just do a PS5 port of Sonic Generations at least and a collection of Sonic 1 2 3 4.

    • @PeteDorr
      @PeteDorr  11 месяцев назад

      Yeah I havent watched others videos as I didnt wsnt my opinion swayed one way or the other. I was basing the “positivity” off of the overhwlemingly high Metacritic user/critic scores. I will always say my true opinion on a game even if I know others wont like to hear it.

  • @CATXSCAN
    @CATXSCAN 10 месяцев назад

    crazy how frontiers has all the free updates , what did you think of update 3?

  • @SirFragalot
    @SirFragalot 11 месяцев назад

    I was really excited for this game until I saw they wanted $60 for essentially a game that is about the same length of Sonic Mania and then I stopped caring about this game. As a Sonic fan I’ll wait until this is $15 to at least try it but no way in heck I’m spending any more.

  • @Feli227
    @Feli227 11 месяцев назад +1

    I started by not liking the game as much because I kept focusing on the negatives, but once I let that go tbh the game is very fun
    Its far from perfect but its classic sonic at its core, and good level layouts
    Level concepts/design and music arrangements could 100% be better though along with the graphics
    For sure not worth 60, probably 30-40 at most. It is still a very good game, and with proper budget I have faith on a better sequel

    • @PeteDorr
      @PeteDorr  11 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah it’s not awful, but dissapointing for what it could have been given the price.

  • @ri-engameplay6915
    @ri-engameplay6915 10 месяцев назад

    really wish they just made a mania 2 from the same people people who made mania. Superstars really looks and feels like a Nintendo 3ds game.

  • @wolftales5203
    @wolftales5203 11 месяцев назад

    I was so hyped and im so so glad this game leaked early otherwise i would have had some of the biggest buyers remorse of my life. AND THE MUSIC 💀 Why is Jun such a hack?

  • @thenewsupermonkey122
    @thenewsupermonkey122 10 месяцев назад

    Weird, I am about halfway through this game and liking it a lot. Also playing on PS5. I havent watched the video yet lol full disclosure

  • @b1ackmamba1997
    @b1ackmamba1997 10 месяцев назад

    Multiplayer is unacceptable . Those who accept it don’t deserve better.

  • @puddmuddle
    @puddmuddle 10 месяцев назад +1

    I saw the stream and it definitely saved me some money 🤣

  • @imackamoo2
    @imackamoo2 11 месяцев назад +2

    I was just talking to my wife how they just do NOT care about good Sonic games anymore.

  • @quickfreeze4
    @quickfreeze4 11 месяцев назад +1

    I canceled my preorder when I started seeing review and glad I did

    • @RubyMVmistress
      @RubyMVmistress 11 месяцев назад +2

      I remember you! I hope you're doing good. I think I watch you back when I was in highschool.

    • @quickfreeze4
      @quickfreeze4 10 месяцев назад +1

      Im doing good. Yea its been awhile since I made a video for RUclips.@@RubyMVmistress

  • @srwilson3s2k14
    @srwilson3s2k14 10 месяцев назад

    I should say I never expected it to beat sonic mania level so maybe my expectations were more or less where I expected really which made me enjoy it more.

  • @kylemassey4060
    @kylemassey4060 11 месяцев назад

    Shocking! My opinions usually line up with yours Pete, but I'm having such a fun time with Superstars. Worth 60$? Absolutely not. Terrible music to boot. but the game itself has been such a blast for me

    • @PeteDorr
      @PeteDorr  10 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you like it. This one didn’t click for me in many areas. Woulda been fine as a $20-30 game if they cut out the multiplayer.

  • @chrilz1498
    @chrilz1498 10 месяцев назад

    I really appreciate your earnest thoughts, Pete, but boy is it disappointing to hear. I’m such a Sonic fan, and this almost struck me as a Mania follow-up from the most recent footage I saw, but I respect your tastes highly and definitely feel far more reserved. It’s too bad rentals aren’t available in my neck of the woods-I sort of want to ‘try before I buy’ now

  • @talesfromiDEATH
    @talesfromiDEATH 10 месяцев назад

    I agree with you on a few points. It's definitely overpriced, should have been about half what they're selling it for. I hate the huge i-frames on bosses and some of the monetisation is really shitty (paying an extra £12 to get the digital deluxe stuff cause its not included in the physical edition) but I've gotta disagree with your overall impression. It's a really fun wee game with fun stage gimmicks and the multiple characters give it some good replay ability.
    Definitely more positives than negatives here.
    I'd recommend folk just wait til the price drops and you'll have a good time.

  • @GodLikesMudkips
    @GodLikesMudkips 10 месяцев назад

    As soon as I saw the price I decided I wasn't getting it. More expensive than Sonic Frontiers when that released! At least where I live.

  • @soraskingdom2388
    @soraskingdom2388 11 месяцев назад

    As someone whos has followed you for over a decade, I defer to you for any real opinions around sonic.

  • @jeffreycharest9093
    @jeffreycharest9093 11 месяцев назад +1

    Cancelled my preorder. Glad I did. Basically dodged a bullet lol. Probably will get it at 20 dollars eventually.

  • @JohnnyCProduction
    @JohnnyCProduction 11 месяцев назад +1

    The game looks beautiful at least. Definitely a game I will wait for a big sale

  • @corgikun2579
    @corgikun2579 11 месяцев назад +1

    super aggressive title, please don't be this toxic, you're cool but I don't get you this time

    • @PeteDorr
      @PeteDorr  10 месяцев назад +1

      Not trying to be toxic but I do truly feel like Sega is ripping us off for about $30 too much. People wanted to know my opinion on the game so I had to give them my real thoughts, not gonna pretend I like it more than I did.

  • @MrKnightlore
    @MrKnightlore 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for this, which of the previous Sonic's are recommended? I'm well out of touch

    • @PilaCiu
      @PilaCiu 11 месяцев назад +1

      Play the original trilogy if you want classic Sonic, for 3D play Generations, Colors and Frontiers

    • @PeteDorr
      @PeteDorr  11 месяцев назад +1

      If you’re ok with skipping most story/filler segments, Sonic Forces is something I’ve also really grown to like over time.

    • @MrKnightlore
      @MrKnightlore 10 месяцев назад

      @@PilaCiu thanks man, yeah I've played the original trilogy to death but not much else

    • @MrKnightlore
      @MrKnightlore 10 месяцев назад

      @@PeteDorr Thanks Pete!