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Sister Joan Chittister, Catholic Nun, said it best. "I do not believe that just because you are opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, a child educated, a child housed. And why would I think that you don't? Because you don't want any tax money to go there. That's not pro-life. That's pro-birth. We need a much broader conversation on what the morality of pro-life is."
@@DTreatz Tell that to your mother, sister or daughter when she gets raped. Tell it to her when the condom breaks. Tell it to her if her life circumstances suddenly changes drastically and she won't be able to care of the kid properly. "You shouldn't have gotten pregnant"
@@staidenofanarchy no I'm just saying even if we outlaw murder people will still do it just like with drugs being outlawed. So why outlaw things at all!
I mean between a fetus and a grown man, I think I'd rather kill a grown man, they've lived long enough compared to a fetus, I'm no extremist though but I am pro-life specifically of children, there's nothing hypocritical about it, its like saying your vegan because you don't want to kill animals but in reality the food we eat are made from organic matter from animals because cycle of life, what matters is principle and where we draw the line
Yep! all these anti-choice ppl are hypocrites. I have a heart condition and if I was forced to carry a fetus to term - I would need a heart transplant. I keep asking which of them will donate me their heart - still no takers. They think my life is worth sacrificing for a mere potential life - yet they wouldn't sacrifice their own lives to save any ACTUAL person. Hypocrites.
@@whathell6t so after I'm forced to be a donor and need a heart transplant after 9 months of weight gain - you gonna donate me your heart so you save that precious life's mama? No? Then mind your own f'n body.
A had an ectopic pregnancy. I was so sick I couldn't walk. Was in and out of hospital and when the doctor told me, he explained my child wouldn't live and there was a good chance I wouldn't either without an abortion. I was sent to a clinic to speak with a specific doctor. He refused to do what the doctor from the hospital said needed to be done because he was "uncomfortable with it." So he was willing to kill me to save an unborn fetus that had 0% chance of survival. I was back and forth from the hospital until they just did it there to save my life. These situations happen often and I've never felt luckier not to be American. And I STILL was tossed around while incapable of moving on my own. The way these people treat trafficking survivors btw is abhorrent too. But that's a whole novel.
@@jskyler7 maybe where you live. I don't question people's traumatic experiences so I feel comfortably right. Small hospitals in remote areas work directly with their clinics. It's not uncommon or unusual. What is unusual is human beings lack of compassion, though.
And yet, if they had ruled the opposite way, you'd be singing their praises. Our courts and legal system are not trying to win popularity contests. They are there to determine justice, according to the Constitution. Some battles will go the way you prefer, and others not. Grow up.
Yeah, it's pretty unbelievable and horrible, truth be told. Medieval, barbaric stuff. Decades of progress were erased in an instant, and for what? Nothing. Just outrageous selfishness, stupidity, ignorance, and arrogance on the part of those who believe they somehow have the right to make choices for others due to their twisted, warped beliefs. It's frustrating stuff, and has been nothing but a terrible, wholly unnecessary stain on the fabric of America.
Bodily autonomy means no one can touch take or use your blood organs or body without your consent, even once you are dead, even if your born child is dying and you have the only organ that matches you still can't be forced so why do people think that a pregnant girl/woman should have less rights and say over her blood organs and body than a damn corpse has when it comes to a fetus? smdh
What about the bodily autonomy of the human being who's skull you are crushing? You don't get to create a human being, then kill him/her when it becomes inconvenient.
You have a choice to not have sex and to not get pregnant. However if you choose to have sex and you get pregnant then those are the consquences of your choice to have sex. If you didnt want to be pregnant you should have made the choice to not have sex but since you made the choice to have sex and you knew that by having sex you could get pregnant and you got pregnant then you should have to deal with the consequenses of your choices. You don't get to murder a baby because you don't want to deal with the consequenses of your actions.
Abortion must be legalised because if a pregnancy can't be terminated legally then a desperate woman might think of some illegal and dangerous methods to get her pregnancy terminated which can endanger her life as well. Besides if a woman wholeheartedly doesn't want a child then it makes zero sense in forcing someone to give birth to a child which they may not be willing to take care properly. It's when legal options aren't available, people will search for illegal means. So let the people have legal options always.
@Coochie Assassin how about mothers who's lives are endangered due to pregnancy complications? Is the life of the fetus worth more than that of the mother?
@@arbyjack2552 Woman is gender and biologists don’t deal with that. Biologist deal with female, a sex which is a marker in the chromosome and molecular biological overview.
Stupid argument. Laws ,in general, control women. Are you saying we shouldn't have those either? Also consider: circumcision laws control men. the draft controls men. the duluth model controls men. "Abortion" is just a loophole for murder that many NPCs believe women should have. Any woman who has had an abortion should go on a list or serve a prison sentence.
Yep. They're just misogynists. They literally make the argument that a fetus is somehow more of a person than the person carrying it. That's hate. The same ppl don't care about children getting mowed down in schools with AKs.
So you think it's beautiful that there are people we can go to to kill a life, how many of us are aware of what sex is about. The choice to have an abortion is yours, there is also a choice of preventing it also..
@@robertjensen1048 many births can cause deaths, womens mental health could be drastically changed by a birth, the birth could cause the women to lose their houses and other financial stability as maintaining a baby is very costly, post-natal depression can be prevented, the women in case of a r@pe, doesnt have to take care of something forced on them, the list can go on Robert. It seems you dont understand how important abortion is for millions.
@@robertjensen1048 Ok..let's go with your bullshit idea that abortion is murder. That means that you want to force potential (or even outright) murderers into becoming parents. The logic behind your stance is so flawed that either you haven't thought it though, you're an outright imbecile, or you're trying to push bullshit that you don't believe yourself. I can hear it already: but there's always adoption, right? How may have you adopted and/or would you be willing to adopt, or (at the very least) fully financially support until they are adults?
Pro-life doesn’t understand the long-term affects of abandoned children in the streets due to restricting abortion. Not only crime is high because of this, but we are paying more taxes to provide the basic necessities for these orphans. Furthermore, the number of kids for adoption are so high, its almost winning a lottery getting some long term parents in their lives. In conclusion, abortion is a health care option for females regardless your religious point of view. Even in the Bible, because of adultery, God aborts the child. People would like to argue the context, however the situation is clear.
"abandoned children in the streets" ? Really? Oh, I get it. You're referring to all the teens in America's ghettos? What was keeping their mothers from using birth control, to prevent these pregnancies? Especially since the pill is FREE for low-income women?
"Pro-life" frankly doesn't actually care about life, just birth. After that, they couldn't care less what happens to the kid, as their job manipulating and ruining lives over selfish, ignorant, warped beliefs, is done.
No matter what your personal feelings are about abortions you will never understand some women's decision on ending their pregnancy. Honestly, it’s not for you to understand it’s not your business. My body, my choice!
@@bobrakow3067 You’re “allowed” to have any feelings about anything you want, but you are NOT allowed to use your feelings to control someone else’s life. Period. As OP said, it’s none of your business.
@Christo John Saaiman You basically told us you aren't fit to be a part of society. Women are half of the world's population and you said you "understand why men would hate" them? You do realize that this makes you a dangerous, harmful, deeply troubled person, right? It feels like it's always the most mediocre, least intelligent men that have the most negative things to say about women, don't you agree? It takes a certain arrogance exclusive to the particularly unintelligent and unsympathetic that makes comments like yours possible. Get help.
@@Meee22222 Unaware if you noticed or not, Covid is basically taking already almost dead people and killing them slightly faster. Then the dub it coronavirus deaths, then the vaccine gets put into place. God help you if you got it.
No abortion is safe. VICE and the rest of the propagandist leftist refuse to talk about the high risk and side effects even while under a doctors care.
@@novarem9828 nobody is murdering anybody in this context, that's purely ridiculous and incredibly ignorant to even suggest, let alone say, and the only person seething here, appears to be you, lol.
I can’t believe someone can call themselves pro-life and simultaneously show little to no care for the lives of the doctors, women and families of the people that abortion rights protects. It’s absurd and I can’t wrap my head around it.
Why must this country keep going backwards? The fight between the political parties has gotten so bad that we are losing sight in the betterment of the country as a whole.
People who think that women should be forced to carry pregnancies to term and give birth are heartless! What women do with their bodies is their business,so try minding your own!
@@jasonweinstock1282 Women are not forced to be pregnant. Women have the choice to not have sex if they don't want to be pregnant but if a women chooses to have sex and they get pregnant they aren't pregnant because they were forced to be pregnant they are pregnant because of a choice they made.
@@Pomni740 what would you say to a woman that got raped and became pregnant as a result? Do you think that she should be forced to carry that pregnancy to term? I sure as hell don't! How other people live their sex lives is their business,and just because a woman consents to sex does not mean she has to consent to carrying an unplanned or unwanted pregnancy to term!
@@Pomni740 They are, because they are forced to keep a fetus inside of them even when it can be safely removed, you cannot force someone to have another human or any other thing inside of them against their will...this is basic healthcare.
These individuals are all the salt of the earth. They are true humanitarians. Thank you for all you have done and Vice, thank you for sharing their stories. How we have regressed is such a disappointment and we should all be pissed off and ready to outsmart the oppressors!
These people are human rights violators. We have progressed by banning abortion, it is a triumph of Human Rights and the most beautiful thing to happen in my lifetime 👍
@@ApoBeef And you’re a coward for not able to shakes hands with homeless transients and vagrants. Viewing their lives as scum and not equal to an infant.
I'm proud to live in New Mexico. Abortion is health care and health care is a human right. Bless these heroes. No one should be forced to give birth! I look forward to when I'm ready for my hysterectomy. I am thankful to be child free. 🙏❤️
I'm grateful to be dog free, as dogs aren't created in God's image. Motherhood is an absolute privilege, and it's a shame that most young women reject it.
Anti-Choice people killing doctors for what they perceive as "Killing Babies"(which it isn't) doesn't seem like someone who pretends to be for life would choose to do. I don't get it. Seems a bit hypocritical.
If you watch the abortion episode in Call the Midwife, it's horrifying. What women had to go through. I salute these providers. We should be like the old Soviet Union. At least reproductive rights were enshrined as early as 1920.
@@thehunzz Oh yeah, here we have one of those people who say, if you criticize the nation you should leave. If only they held that standard to themselves. LOL, It's always one way. Too funny. Just so you know the hunzz, I criticize our nation because I want it to be BETTER for the people, not just elites.
@@thehunzz hi! I'd just like to inform you that while yes, the soviet union was the first country to legalize abortion in the 1920s, it also later banned it in around 1938 because views changed. doesnt that sound like the US? so your country IS more like the soviet union right now, and your beliefs seem to be the one keeping it that way. but of course, if you dont like living in a country like that, then you can leave too :)
Oh, I got you - nothing. They're doing nothing. Their job was guilting you into a kid, regardless of your personal circumstances, after that, they generally couldn't care less as it's out of their hands.
may all these beautiful people stay safe. thank you for all you do. I have been thinking about making a VICE Contribution but this piece put me over the the edge. Contribution all set. Thank you!
@Sam ss - And if you're actively against abortion, you should be forced to adopt AND if the mother had pre or post-pregnancy complications, she's on your health insurance for the rest of her life. Stand up for what you say you believe in.
If the women can't get the help from docs, they'll try doing abortions themselves with metal clothes hangers or falling down stairways like in the past
There's no such thing as forcing women to continue pregnancies. There's no force involved when their own bodies simply continue doing what they naturally do. Not being allowed to kill your child doesn't mean you are "forced" to have them, when you're the one who already created them by your own actions. And if you're worried about dangerous illegal abortions, here's an idea. It's called not killing your child. Go to a hospital and give birth surrounded by people whose job is to keep you and your child safe. But that involves allowing the child live, and we can't have that, can we?
@@travisjohnson7065 Your body can naturally kill you when you get a fever too. Or have an allergic response. Doctors still treat people who got hurt because of their own actions. We aren't slaves to our biology and women arent livestock. You sound like a creep.
so important!!! I had just turned 15 when my gf and i had to go to the abortion clinic.. i was in my school uniform. the 'pro-life' maniacs screamed at me with huge posters that i later found were of foetuses immediately before birth, as opposed to my gf, who was at 2 months.
honestly they are anti abortion because they realized that their mums would abort them if they found out how much they waste time. Like seriously these bunch no longer do it here because we decriminalized abortion so anyone can go get one. Honestly Americans are a very interesting breed of people.
@@TheOwenMajor would be logical to consider fetus a human when it develops brain, has electrical signaling and neural curcuitry. 12 weeks would be an extremely safe period to choose but it can probably be extended.
I know how these women felt, as I was carrying a child and I was terrified of my parent's reaction. Thankfully my parents were wonderful. I ended up having a beautiful boy who turned out to be a brilliant young man. I think if I had the opportunity to have an abortion I would have had one..
Thanks Vice for this amazing, concise and moving piece. But most of all, thank you to the people who interviewed for everything they did and continue to do 🙏
@@MrBernardhard if it was possible to prove that abortion is actually a murder or that abortion is morally wrong, there would be no abortion. I dont think you can make that case. So dont throw such aggressive wishes.
@@TheEverFreeKing If so, then stopping life support of a brain dead person is objectively a murder, because it is also an intentional killing of a human being. But I think its manipulation of language because by doing so, you are equalizing a fetus with actual humans, just like I eqiulized brain dead with other people.
@@sendthis9480 in short, end unwanted pregnancies which lead to child neglect/abuse which intern leads to other problems which can affect everyone else (crime,trauma, vengeance etc.)
@@peachnecctar1658 If it's not wrong, then why do you need an excuse for it? Why would it matter that people from all walks of life have done it? It's like when a kid gets caught doing something wrong and says all the other kids were doing it - does that make it okay?
Wow ! The US really is going backwards how incredibly sad that anyone thinks they have the right to tell you what to do with your own body☹️ there isn’t even any consideration given to how you became pregnant in the first place 😡are these people planning on cover all of the costs involved in Having a child in the US never mind what it takes to raise children with the ever growing cost of living . Beyond disgusted with the way the world is headed these days
I'm glad that abortion is still legal here in canada, but I am so sad it can be dismantled easily. Woman need to be able to choose to have power in society.
Unfortunately, NM has not codified abortion protection in state law. I'm grateful to be here too, because I would be dead from a dangerous pregnancy if I'd lived in any of those horrible states that don't allow bodily autonomy.
You will meet the most loving and compassionate people at these places, they know we don’t go to those places because we want to and that it’s usually a last resort
@@corpserepairservice501 actually your rights don't end where someone else's begins. You can't force someone to become an organ donor or even just donate blood to save a life. And when the fetus is literally attached to the body then it is a part of that body. You can't decide for everybody where life begins, in Jewish beliefs life begins at first breath. 1/3 of fertalized eggs never implant in the uterus and are lost during a period, so some say life doesn't start until the fetal tissue actually starts to develop. Some say life begins with the development of an active brain/consciousness which doesn't occur until late in the pregnancy. Your belief is not a fact so don't try to limit other people's choices.
Pro-lifers would go as far to try to adopt a dead fetus or near dead fetus. Judging without understanding situation. In those situations fetus was already dead or near dead due to miscarriage or other medical reason but an abortion to expel everything out. This has happened to people I know.
@SutTyphon If they're unwanted or they can't be cared for and don't get aborted, they'll end up in the care system, and that isn't fair for the child or the country. We are an overpopulated planet as it is.
And sacrifice babies on the altar of the sheer selfishness and depravity of women. People who commit these acts are the greatest kind of murderer. They kill human beings who are truly righteous, those who have not lived long enough to sin or commit evil acts.
Pro choice is not pro abortion. Abortion should be a last measure after education, access to birth control and better financial options for women overall. Bonus better healthcare. But these people don't want that either
I got an abortion back in 2020/2021it was in El Paso, TX. I am pro abortionist. I’m not going into details of why I did. Regardless. These people are life savers. THE ONES ONSCREEN. Let me emphasize. I thought when I first went there. I was going to be embarrassed. None the less, you would’ve never thought people revenue through there; JUST like some type of convenient store it’s like your there to stop and shop. Anyways that’s not my point. My point of my story is to not only bring awareness to those in the field that try to help. But those that do their job carelessly as well! On my way to an abortion clinic, one that I called, and everything. I went inside a building. Now mind you. You can tell that there were abortion clinic nearby from the obvious nahsayers holding signs about it. I went inside this “ clinic”// side note. It may have been my first time at an abortion clinic. But it wasn’t my first time delivering kids. I have 2 already. These people seems so genuine. Sweet, so.. arm opening… they put me in this room, no later then 5 minutes go by their pulling out a sonogram for me to see this baby…. It was honestly traumatic… at the end of this. It’s as if they “ show “ was over. Like they were trying to sell me something. They pulled the drapes quick, turned back on the lights, and started speaking about KEEPING this baby, PERSISTENTLY TRYING TO MAKE ME KEEP THIS CHILD. Not only that. WHEN I HEAVILY DECLINED. THEY ASKED ABOUT ADOPTION INSTEAD. THESE PEOPLE WERE ANTI ABORTIONIST POSING AS A ABORTION CLINIC, EVEN GAVE OUT COUPONS TO HAVE MONEY OFF AT THE TIME CAUSE ABORTIONS ARE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE
First off, there's no need to justify/detail your abortion, it's your choice, and I'm glad you were able to access those services and came out the other side of it ok. That said, yeah, there's some real terrible folks out there posing as abortion clinics to try and guilt you into having a baby, regardless of your personal circumstances, health, etc. VICE actually has a few videos regarding them, you might consider checking them out.
Third trimester abortion has to be made into a national mandatory law right away. It can't be & mustn't just be for cases where the mother's life is in danger.
Where oh where to start, what are the advantages to a relationship with a woman these days? Well .... let's start with the risks and disadvantages and see what's left. Until recently and in some states still is legal. 1. To murder your own unborn son or daughter without your consent. (up to the time of birth in some states) 2. No fathers rights unless your married ( which 50% of the U.S. population is single) 3. If you go to court you are almost sure to lose since A you have no rights and B the courts nearly always side with the mother. 4. If you are married they will take half if not more than all your possesions and you might get to see your children once or twice a month, depending on what the courts say. 5. Even if you don't get to see your children you may very well still have to pay for them until they reach the age of 18 years old. I could continue but now let's talk about the advantages. I'll have to get back to you.
@@friccinfrosty4677 surrounded by baby killers, that's going to happen.....you all should really come up with a new label, maybe something like, "good person" or "a person with a soul" or maybe "A person not willing to play your stupid games and smarter than you" ?
We are not suffering a population problem . What is wrong with people who think the earth has 8 million people , 3.1 million children die each year of starvation but some dumbass says hey we need more people.
I don't get it, why be sexually active when you don't want a child and then want to kill it when you get pregnant? Sexual intercourse brings forth babies since the beginning of time. So sad that the unborn suffer in the name of choice. Life is so precious, created by God. Forgive them Lord
@liliyasgardenchannel8876 you don’t even read the Bible, you’re as ignorant as they come. God is pro-abortion and pro-infanticide. ruclips.net/video/KN4654qFxzk/видео.htmlsi=FSNjRAouRjo31z-S
Dont think that's a wise choice for a DR to tell you to lie to the ER and not say that you took the pill vs having a miscarriage ... Drs need to know everything going on
@Sarah that like like 1 percent, and I'm not saying abortions shouldn't happen I don't like it when treated like just another from of birth control it should be a last ditch all another option have somehow failed
I am never going to stop fighting for us! I am not resigned. The same way women like The Janes fought so I’d have the access to the safe, legal abortion I needed 20 years ago, I will fight for the girls and women who need it today and every day until I draw my last breath.
Except you have to be born first to be murdered, so it ain't . And don't give me the crap about a pregnant woman being murdered. That's called destruction of a fetus, maybe educate yourself
The most ironic thing is that conservatives, especially religious wacko conservatives, are that they ARE AGAINST CONTRACEPTION, and seek to ban it in all states where they are outlawing abortion. You guys are pure clowns, and you're definitely not on the right side of history.
Abortion isn't murder, and people are free to make their own choices, and deal with the consequences of them, however they do so choose. Their body, their choice.
Women are not forced to give birth. Women have a choice to not have sex if they don't want to be pregnant if they choose to have sex and they get pregnant then they aren't pregnant because they were forced to be pregnant they are pregnant because of a choice they made.
A lot of these people are pro-birth, not pro-life. However, abortion should be the last resort, you should be taking precautions in the many forms of contraception we have today if you know you do not have to have a baby. A lot of these women can’t afford to raise a child, so they end up on government assistance, the same assistance that many pro-life individuals complain about paying for in taxes. Making something illegal doesn’t make it go away.
So we should just get rid of all laws, because people are going to break them anyway? And why should abortion be a last resort? Is it wrong or not? If it's not wrong, then who cares? If it's a woman's choice, then it's her choice to use it as a first resort.
@@travisjohnson7065 Obviously we should not get rid of all laws, making abortion illegal creates women who wish to get one do so in an environment that is most likely not sterile, not safe, and poses a great risk to their health if not done professionally. I do not believe abortion is wrong; however, abortion shouldn’t be used as a form of birth control, there are options you should and can take to avoid accidentally getting pregnant so you don’t have to put your body through an abortion, as it can be very traumatic physically and emotionally.
@@mhofeling5878 Abortion is never safe. It results in death 100% of the time (the entire point of it). Lots of crime is dangerous. That doesn't mean we should just make it legal, to make it safer for the criminals. If it's not wrong, then who cares if it was used as a form of birth control? Why would that be a problem if it's the woman's choice? And also, why would it be emotionally traumatic if there was nothing wrong about it?
@@travisjohnson7065 Abortions after 21 weeks are very uncommon… meaning that if you were to take that fetus out it wouldn’t survive. It’s not safe to use abortion as a form of birth control and I think you know that, Travis. Abortions can be traumatic mentally because many women know they can’t support a child, this leading them to terminate the pregnancy, I’m sure a lot of women think about, “what could have been”. We obviously have different morals, and this truly comes down to a moral debate in the end. There can be as much science to back up the fact that late-term terminations are extremely rare and only done if the mother is in danger, and they represent 1% of the abortions that are preformed. At the end of the day if you think life begins at conception, that’s what you think!
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Sister Joan Chittister, Catholic Nun, said it best.
"I do not believe that just because you are opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, a child educated, a child housed. And why would I think that you don't? Because you don't want any tax money to go there. That's not pro-life. That's pro-birth. We need a much broader conversation on what the morality of pro-life is."
Well said 👏 👏 👏
Maybe stop being sexually irresponsible and getting pregnant then.
Actions _need_ consequences, sexual degeneracy is bad for society.
@@DTreatz all unwanted pregnancies are caused by a selfish and irresponsible male.
@@DTreatz Tell that to your mother, sister or daughter when she gets raped. Tell it to her when the condom breaks. Tell it to her if her life circumstances suddenly changes drastically and she won't be able to care of the kid properly.
"You shouldn't have gotten pregnant"
@@DTreatz maybe stop rapists 😂
The thing is, you can't outlaw abortion just like you can't outlaw drugs. If people want to do it, they'll do it.
So what ABT murder can we outlaw that?
@@vypa-bk1iy ...you're not shuffling a full deck of cards, are you?
@@vypa-bk1iy did you eat lead as a child?
@@staidenofanarchy no I'm just saying even if we outlaw murder people will still do it just like with drugs being outlawed. So why outlaw things at all!
@@vypa-bk1iy murder isn't healthcare.
If u are "pro-life" then isnt threatening to kill someone kind of hypocritical?
Because they are murderers
I mean between a fetus and a grown man, I think I'd rather kill a grown man, they've lived long enough compared to a fetus, I'm no extremist though but I am pro-life specifically of children, there's nothing hypocritical about it, its like saying your vegan because you don't want to kill animals but in reality the food we eat are made from organic matter from animals because cycle of life, what matters is principle and where we draw the line
@Coochie Assassin
Hell, yeah!
It’s hypocritical since it’s a honor killing.
Yep! all these anti-choice ppl are hypocrites. I have a heart condition and if I was forced to carry a fetus to term - I would need a heart transplant. I keep asking which of them will donate me their heart - still no takers. They think my life is worth sacrificing for a mere potential life - yet they wouldn't sacrifice their own lives to save any ACTUAL person. Hypocrites.
@@whathell6t so after I'm forced to be a donor and need a heart transplant after 9 months of weight gain - you gonna donate me your heart so you save that precious life's mama? No? Then mind your own f'n body.
A had an ectopic pregnancy. I was so sick I couldn't walk. Was in and out of hospital and when the doctor told me, he explained my child wouldn't live and there was a good chance I wouldn't either without an abortion. I was sent to a clinic to speak with a specific doctor. He refused to do what the doctor from the hospital said needed to be done because he was "uncomfortable with it." So he was willing to kill me to save an unborn fetus that had 0% chance of survival. I was back and forth from the hospital until they just did it there to save my life. These situations happen often and I've never felt luckier not to be American. And I STILL was tossed around while incapable of moving on my own.
The way these people treat trafficking survivors btw is abhorrent too. But that's a whole novel.
Ectopic pregnancy is completely different than someone voluntarily wanting an abortion for selfish reasons.
That’s kinda odd because everyone especially a doctor knows a fetus couldn’t survive not sure why the hospital didn’t help you in the first place
@@harpergrace5846 Yea it’s odd, almost unbelievable 🤔
@@CatholicsForTrump Even for victims of ince$t and r@pe?
@@jskyler7 maybe where you live. I don't question people's traumatic experiences so I feel comfortably right. Small hospitals in remote areas work directly with their clinics. It's not uncommon or unusual. What is unusual is human beings lack of compassion, though.
And the police do nothing about these threats because they're complicit.
Most police are "conservative" too which is creepy
They don’t do much about leftist types fire bombing pregnancy centers, so I’m not sure what the problem is.
Now it is a crime in many states to commit murders of pre-born babies and those monsters in the video are criminals.
Based police doing the work of Human Rights and justice 😎☝️
The Supreme Court failed this country in such a deep and powerful way. Unbelievable.
seriously. and when it got leaked the leaker was condemned. this country is a failure.
Not really. If anything they gave pro-choice 50 more chances, since it's now up to each state.
And yet, if they had ruled the opposite way, you'd be singing their praises.
Our courts and legal system are not trying to win popularity contests. They are there to determine justice, according to the Constitution.
Some battles will go the way you prefer, and others not. Grow up.
You're so brain washed... The SC left it up to the States to deicide on abortions, not the government.
Yeah, it's pretty unbelievable and horrible, truth be told. Medieval, barbaric stuff. Decades of progress were erased in an instant, and for what? Nothing. Just outrageous selfishness, stupidity, ignorance, and arrogance on the part of those who believe they somehow have the right to make choices for others due to their twisted, warped beliefs. It's frustrating stuff, and has been nothing but a terrible, wholly unnecessary stain on the fabric of America.
Bodily autonomy means no one can touch take or use your blood organs or body without your consent, even once you are dead, even if your born child is dying and you have the only organ that matches you still can't be forced so why do people think that a pregnant girl/woman should have less rights and say over her blood organs and body than a damn corpse has when it comes to a fetus? smdh
What about the bodily autonomy of the human being who's skull you are crushing?
You don't get to create a human being, then kill him/her when it becomes inconvenient.
You have a choice to not have sex and to not get pregnant. However if you choose to have sex and you get pregnant then those are the consquences of your choice to have sex. If you didnt want to be pregnant you should have made the choice to not have sex but since you made the choice to have sex and you knew that by having sex you could get pregnant and you got pregnant then you should have to deal with the consequenses of your choices. You don't get to murder a baby because you don't want to deal with the consequenses of your actions.
@@Pomni740 How is a fetus a baby? Can it breathe on its own?
@@chadwickelliott1461 Fetus means baby in latin.
@@Pomni740 what's it mean in English?
The resistance to allow abortion isn't about consideration for children, it's about control
So true.
@@REDDOGGOOO so false 😌😏👍
How is it about control
How is stopoing babies from dying equal to me or some other group gaining more control
No matter how hard the try to spin it. Control is exactly what it is, also the fruit of the flesh not the spirit.
Abortion must be legalised because if a pregnancy can't be terminated legally then a desperate woman might think of some illegal and dangerous methods to get her pregnancy terminated which can endanger her life as well. Besides if a woman wholeheartedly doesn't want a child then it makes zero sense in forcing someone to give birth to a child which they may not be willing to take care properly. It's when legal options aren't available, people will search for illegal means. So let the people have legal options always.
Stop having sex with anything that moves, simple
Good, if that's the case, she deserves to die as well
How about being responsible and not having kids when you're not ready for them? there's always that option to right?
@Coochie Assassin how about mothers who's lives are endangered due to pregnancy complications? Is the life of the fetus worth more than that of the mother?
@@PresidentCoochieGrabber abortion IS responsible.
“Pro lifers” aren’t pro life. They’re about controlling women
😂 but what is a women?
I am not a biologist. I don’t know what a woman is!!!😂😂
@@arbyjack2552
Woman is gender and biologists don’t deal with that.
Biologist deal with female, a sex which is a marker in the chromosome and molecular biological overview.
Stupid argument. Laws ,in general, control women. Are you saying we shouldn't have those either?
Also consider:
circumcision laws control men.
the draft controls men.
the duluth model controls men.
"Abortion" is just a loophole for murder that many NPCs believe women should have. Any woman who has had an abortion should go on a list or serve a prison sentence.
Yep. They're just misogynists. They literally make the argument that a fetus is somehow more of a person than the person carrying it. That's hate. The same ppl don't care about children getting mowed down in schools with AKs.
It's beautiful these people exist. They're willing to put it all on the line for women's health.
So you think it's beautiful that there are people we can go to to kill a life, how many of us are aware of what sex is about. The choice to have an abortion is yours, there is also a choice of preventing it also..
Pffffff😂🤣😂🤣😂🤡🤡🤡
Please explain to me what murdering a fetus has to do with keeping a woman healthy. I am all ears.
@@robertjensen1048 many births can cause deaths, womens mental health could be drastically changed by a birth, the birth could cause the women to lose their houses and other financial stability as maintaining a baby is very costly, post-natal depression can be prevented, the women in case of a r@pe, doesnt have to take care of something forced on them, the list can go on Robert. It seems you dont understand how important abortion is for millions.
@@robertjensen1048 Ok..let's go with your bullshit idea that abortion is murder.
That means that you want to force potential (or even outright) murderers into becoming parents. The logic behind your stance is so flawed that either you haven't thought it though, you're an outright imbecile, or you're trying to push bullshit that you don't believe yourself.
I can hear it already: but there's always adoption, right?
How may have you adopted and/or would you be willing to adopt, or (at the very least) fully financially support until they are adults?
Pro-life doesn’t understand the long-term affects of abandoned children in the streets due to restricting abortion. Not only crime is high because of this, but we are paying more taxes to provide the basic necessities for these orphans. Furthermore, the number of kids for adoption are so high, its almost winning a lottery getting some long term parents in their lives. In conclusion, abortion is a health care option for females regardless your religious point of view. Even in the Bible, because of adultery, God aborts the child. People would like to argue the context, however the situation is clear.
They understand. They just don't care about the kids.
@@RondaMurphyRSM is for the streets
i have an opinion. there are so many insanely important reasons abortion is a human right. that it’s overwhelming. and easier to disagree.
"abandoned children in the streets" ? Really? Oh, I get it. You're referring to all the teens in America's ghettos?
What was keeping their mothers from using birth control, to prevent these pregnancies?
Especially since the pill is FREE for low-income women?
"Pro-life" frankly doesn't actually care about life, just birth. After that, they couldn't care less what happens to the kid, as their job manipulating and ruining lives over selfish, ignorant, warped beliefs, is done.
Nobody has the right to tell anyone what to do with their own lives! Worry about yourself, not things that don't affect you!
So it's okay for people to kill babies then?
Selfish way to think about it when a baby is involved.
What about the baby's life?
@@ewrock7635 no
@@Nowhere985 that's what all this boils down to. When does life begin?
No matter what your personal feelings are about abortions you will never understand some women's decision on ending their pregnancy. Honestly, it’s not for you to understand it’s not your business. My body, my choice!
Am I allowed feelings for the unborn child or nah
@@bobrakow3067 You’re “allowed” to have any feelings about anything you want, but you are NOT allowed to use your feelings to control someone else’s life. Period. As OP said, it’s none of your business.
@@bobrakow3067 The answer is nah. Mind your own business. If abortions make you upset, you can just not get one, Bob.
@Christo John Saaiman You basically told us you aren't fit to be a part of society. Women are half of the world's population and you said you "understand why men would hate" them? You do realize that this makes you a dangerous, harmful, deeply troubled person, right? It feels like it's always the most mediocre, least intelligent men that have the most negative things to say about women, don't you agree? It takes a certain arrogance exclusive to the particularly unintelligent and unsympathetic that makes comments like yours possible. Get help.
Not ur choice!
Stupid choices
So I want to kill someone I can just because my hand can get a gun? My body my choice let’s kill stuff😆
Didn't "pro-life" people throw a fit about wearing masks and getting vaccinated, two actions that actually save lives?
Yeah a lot of them aren't able to think critically.
@@Meee22222 Unaware if you noticed or not, Covid is basically taking already almost dead people and killing them slightly faster. Then the dub it coronavirus deaths, then the vaccine gets put into place. God help you if you got it.
💌📩📩....✍️
I am pro life, no I didn't, please stop generalizing
"Making abortions illegal does not decrease the demand for abortions, it only increases the amount of unsafe abortions" - World Health Organisation
Keep seething. Murder shouldn't be safe and easy thing to do.
@@novarem9828 judging by your RUclips account I can tell you are in a bad place mentally.
No abortion is safe. VICE and the rest of the propagandist leftist refuse to talk about the high risk and side effects even while under a doctors care.
@@novarem9828 nobody is murdering anybody in this context, that's purely ridiculous and incredibly ignorant to even suggest, let alone say, and the only person seething here, appears to be you, lol.
WHO. 😆
"If you're so pro-life, do me a favor: don't lock arms and block medical clinics. If you're so pro-life, lock arms and block cemeteries.” - Bill Hicks
Pro-life people are such hypocrites
They're only pro-birth.
They're not pro-life, they're just anti-abortion.
Sweeping generalisations never have helped. With respect...
@@DaveSCameron Isn't attempting to outlaw all abortion based upon one's "faith" a sweeping generalization?
Take birth control, abstain , or give the up for baby up for adoption. They are many ways to be responsible without killing your baby.
I can’t believe someone can call themselves pro-life and simultaneously show little to no care for the lives of the doctors, women and families of the people that abortion rights protects. It’s absurd and I can’t wrap my head around it.
I hope these doctors stay safe and keep helping
So ironic, they fight for life while wishing death on others
If you knew someone was murdering babies you would with death upon them as well.
yeah sounds a lot like Christianity.
Why must this country keep going backwards? The fight between the political parties has gotten so bad that we are losing sight in the betterment of the country as a whole.
Thankful for doctors like these
We'd all be more thankful if you'd either cross your legs or use birth control instead.
Agree pro choice rocks
Pro choice 🫡💪💯
I'm glad that voters in 6 states voted in favor of abortion rights in 2022
If you think that murdering babies is okay then you are a terrible person.
People who think that women should be forced to carry pregnancies to term and give birth are heartless! What women do with their bodies is their business,so try minding your own!
@@jasonweinstock1282 Women are not forced to be pregnant. Women have the choice to not have sex if they don't want to be pregnant but if a women chooses to have sex and they get pregnant they aren't pregnant because they were forced to be pregnant they are pregnant because of a choice they made.
@@Pomni740 what would you say to a woman that got raped and became pregnant as a result? Do you think that she should be forced to carry that pregnancy to term? I sure as hell don't! How other people live their sex lives is their business,and just because a woman consents to sex does not mean she has to consent to carrying an unplanned or unwanted pregnancy to term!
@@Pomni740 They are, because they are forced to keep a fetus inside of them even when it can be safely removed, you cannot force someone to have another human or any other thing inside of them against their will...this is basic healthcare.
These individuals are all the salt of the earth. They are true humanitarians. Thank you for all you have done and Vice, thank you for sharing their stories. How we have regressed is such a disappointment and we should all be pissed off and ready to outsmart the oppressors!
abortion
These people are human rights violators.
We have progressed by banning abortion, it is a triumph of Human Rights and the most beautiful thing to happen in my lifetime 👍
I am so grateful to be living in France 🙌🏾
Based French people
💌📩📩....✍️
We will ban abortion in France to it is only a matter of time 😎☝️
France has stricter abortion restrictions than most liberal us states
all these people are heros. abortion is healthcare.
And death for the child
You misspelled homicide.
@@ewrock7635 no, it’s healthcare, no matter what your view is
@@Nowhere985
Even then, those anti-abortionist are homophobes. Not letting a LGBTQ+ married adopt foster kids.
Yes - it is healthcare. No one should be forced to be a donor to any other life. No one should have to sacrifice their own life for another.
These women are HEROES
We need new women like them
💯
Agree but the anti choice movement is winning
oh and don’t forget about the women who could likely die from the pregnancy instead of getting an abortion as soon as things get bad
💌📩📩....✍️
The providers are hero’s
Amen. The world doesn't need anymore ghetto rats.
Villains
you are gross regardless there is a dead baby
@@ApoBeef
And you’re a coward for not able to shakes hands with homeless transients and vagrants. Viewing their lives as scum and not equal to an infant.
Providers?
Republicans be like:
War? YES!
Torture? ABSOLUTELY!
Guns everywhere? YOU BET!
Abortion? NO I’M PRO LIFE
bro what are you on about
@@corruptcape2776 republicans
Because they want child brides!
@@corruptcape2776 child marriage in usa and its history
Yup, majority support capital punishment too. Wild.
pro-life are hypocrites
I'm proud to live in New Mexico. Abortion is health care and health care is a human right. Bless these heroes. No one should be forced to give birth! I look forward to when I'm ready for my hysterectomy. I am thankful to be child free. 🙏❤️
I'm grateful to be dog free, as dogs aren't created in God's image. Motherhood is an absolute privilege, and it's a shame that most young women reject it.
@@ewrock7635 not your decision.
I disagree
@@DaveSCameron no uterus no opinion.
@@persephonestardust2498 Yes, it is. I'm right and childless "dog moms" are wrong. I have the right to impose my beliefs on them.
Most supporters of abortion stop supporting it at third trimester abortion. It makes them no different than their pro-life opponents.
Except that they lack moral clarity.
@@ShankarSivarajan Who?
The conservatives should have let this be decided, this will cost them national elections for years to come.
No it wont
Stand tall,abortion providers and pro choice people and groups!
You probably also think teens and young adults still using bounce houses is okay
@@lavenderlavenderlavender5680 people can live how they want,as far as I'm concerned
Anti-Choice people killing doctors for what they perceive as "Killing Babies"(which it isn't) doesn't seem like someone who pretends to be for life would choose to do. I don't get it. Seems a bit hypocritical.
💌📩📩....✍️
If you watch the abortion episode in Call the Midwife, it's horrifying. What women had to go through. I salute these providers. We should be like the old Soviet Union. At least reproductive rights were enshrined as early as 1920.
You're free to leave the country at any time Ivan.
North Korea will for sure open their arms to you, go on now! What are you waiting for? America is soooo horrible.
@@thehunzz Oh yeah, here we have one of those people who say, if you criticize the nation you should leave. If only they held that standard to themselves. LOL, It's always one way. Too funny. Just so you know the hunzz, I criticize our nation because I want it to be BETTER for the people, not just elites.
@@davidhutchinson5233 People who want to help the US don't say, "We should be like the old Soviet Union." Have fun with Boris & Natasha.
@@thehunzz hi! I'd just like to inform you that while yes, the soviet union was the first country to legalize abortion in the 1920s, it also later banned it in around 1938 because views changed. doesnt that sound like the US? so your country IS more like the soviet union right now, and your beliefs seem to be the one keeping it that way. but of course, if you dont like living in a country like that, then you can leave too :)
I wonder what kind of help these pro-life people are doing, in helping children from poor background?
Oh, I got you - nothing. They're doing nothing. Their job was guilting you into a kid, regardless of your personal circumstances, after that, they generally couldn't care less as it's out of their hands.
How are pro choice people helping? By murdering babies before they can go into a poor backround?
Your religion Is not a valid argument against providing safe medical care for all that want it
You probably also think teens and young adults still using bounce houses is okay
Healthcare is not a right
@@lavenderlavenderlavender5680 I think that it's ok for everyone except you
@@lavenderlavenderlavender5680 I bet you don't think water is a right either
@@lavenderlavenderlavender5680 Well, that's not really a concensus in the Western world.
Congratulations, supportive medical providers.
Saving and improving lives, daily.
I think you mean murding babies daily?
What are you congratulating?
No uterus no opinion.
may all these beautiful people stay safe. thank you for all you do. I have been thinking about making a VICE Contribution but this piece put me over the the edge. Contribution all set. Thank you!
*literally hacking to death babies in-utero*
"omg ur so brave and beautiful" - white women 2023
@Sam ss - And if you're actively against abortion, you should be forced to adopt AND if the mother had pre or post-pregnancy complications, she's on your health insurance for the rest of her life.
Stand up for what you say you believe in.
@@lynneanderson4255
Careful! The SS part of that username that you’re responding is suspicious.
@@samss6090 yeah, so, that's not a thing, but believe whatever goofy, ignorant nonsense you want.
@@samss6090 such utter bullshit
If the women can't get the help from docs, they'll try doing abortions themselves with metal clothes hangers or falling down stairways like in the past
Why don’t they just not kill the baby?
@@CodyBarton-vp8do I agree, but some people are just evil and would rather murder an innocent life
We must educate them not to do these things but we cannot permit murder 😎☝️
@@Emmanuel_Rivera1 I agree pro-choicers do want to murder innocent life😞
Abortions should be legal. Forcing women to continue with unwanted pregnancies only forces them to find dangerous and illegal ways to abort.
There's no such thing as forcing women to continue pregnancies. There's no force involved when their own bodies simply continue doing what they naturally do. Not being allowed to kill your child doesn't mean you are "forced" to have them, when you're the one who already created them by your own actions.
And if you're worried about dangerous illegal abortions, here's an idea. It's called not killing your child. Go to a hospital and give birth surrounded by people whose job is to keep you and your child safe. But that involves allowing the child live, and we can't have that, can we?
Forcing is a strong word. Ever heard of adoption?
@@travisjohnson7065 no uterus no opinion.
@@CodyBarton-vp8do no uterus no opinion.
@@travisjohnson7065 Your body can naturally kill you when you get a fever too. Or have an allergic response. Doctors still treat people who got hurt because of their own actions. We aren't slaves to our biology and women arent livestock. You sound like a creep.
so important!!! I had just turned 15 when my gf and i had to go to the abortion clinic.. i was in my school uniform. the 'pro-life' maniacs screamed at me with huge posters that i later found were of foetuses immediately before birth, as opposed to my gf, who was at 2 months.
In your opinion how old does a human being have to be before they have a right not to be killed because they are inconvient?
🤮
honestly they are anti abortion because they realized that their mums would abort them if they found out how much they waste time. Like seriously these bunch no longer do it here because we decriminalized abortion so anyone can go get one. Honestly Americans are a very interesting breed of people.
@@TheOwenMajor would be logical to consider fetus a human when it develops brain, has electrical signaling and neural curcuitry. 12 weeks would be an extremely safe period to choose but it can probably be extended.
@@PsychologyAttack I agree
I know how these women felt, as I was carrying a child and I was terrified of my parent's reaction. Thankfully my parents were wonderful. I ended up having a beautiful boy who turned out to be a brilliant young man. I think if I had the opportunity to have an abortion I would have had one..
What a selfish horrible person you are
@@heypaul7646 incel.
Thanks Vice for this amazing, concise and moving piece. But most of all, thank you to the people who interviewed for everything they did and continue to do 🙏
Yes, these demons legalized murder. I hope all of these murderers pay for their demonic behaviors
@@MrBernardhard if it was possible to prove that abortion is actually a murder or that abortion is morally wrong, there would be no abortion.
I dont think you can make that case. So dont throw such aggressive wishes.
@@PsychologyAttack objectively it is murder, it is the intentional killing of a human being.
@@TheEverFreeKing If so, then stopping life support of a brain dead person is objectively a murder, because it is also an intentional killing of a human being.
But I think its manipulation of language because by doing so, you are equalizing a fetus with actual humans, just like I eqiulized brain dead with other people.
@@MrBernardhard STHU. Your God order Moses to kill women children and babies. Are you calling your God a demon too?
Pro life sending death threats now that's comedy
I think these people are amazing. People who care about the rights of a woman and the true purpose of abortion need to protect these people.
Ummm…what is the “true purpose”?
I thought it was a choice…meaning there are many purposes?
@@sendthis9480 in short, end unwanted pregnancies which lead to child neglect/abuse which intern leads to other problems which can affect everyone else (crime,trauma, vengeance etc.)
Sense it’s about everyone else except for the parent that has to endure the experience in the first place
@@lihboidasanstr8fyre228
So only specific instances, that you feel are appropriate?
Got it.
You make all the rules, I guess.
🙄
@@lihboidasanstr8fyre228
Ummm…did you just say it’s NOT about the parent?!?!?!
That’s why I’m not leaving CA. Women have rights in CA, unlike Texas and other 3rd world states
Thank God. Texas doesn't want you. If we could ship the rest of you Californians back we would.
Great news for Texas! Fewer California invaders
i think a video focused on women from all walks of life that have had an abortion would be really beneficial. itll get so much hate but its worth it
People from all walks of life have done all sorts of terrible things.
@@travisjohnson7065 yup
@@travisjohnson7065 not abortion tho
@@peachnecctar1658 If it's not wrong, then why do you need an excuse for it? Why would it matter that people from all walks of life have done it? It's like when a kid gets caught doing something wrong and says all the other kids were doing it - does that make it okay?
@@travisjohnson7065 no uterus no opinion.
Let freedom ring. We may not like it but it has to be protected. Morality can’t win cause if it does you can kiss freedom goodbye.
What? Freedumb over morality are you mad?
Killing human beings because they inconvenience you isn't freedom.
the same people who want these closed wanted a choice about vaccination ..... amazing isnt it.......they kept saying my body my choice......
@@kylegray3838 Nobody has ever been forced to get a vaccine. This is not comparable. Put yourself in peoples shoes dudee
@@unclebtoast9266 and no one is being forced to get an abortion, there bring forced to keep a baby tho????
I never knew that there was gun violence/death threats over abortion. Interesting to learn.
There have been bombings.
What an invaluable documentary
Wow ! The US really is going backwards how incredibly sad that anyone thinks they have the right to tell you what to do with your own body☹️ there isn’t even any consideration given to how you became pregnant in the first place 😡are these people planning on cover all of the costs involved in Having a child in the US never mind what it takes to raise children with the ever growing cost of living . Beyond disgusted with the way the world is headed these days
I'm glad that abortion is still legal here in canada, but I am so sad it can be dismantled easily. Woman need to be able to choose to have power in society.
That lady with the black shirt and short brown hair did not deserve that kind of harrasement!
Thank you again for this report.
No one has the right to tell a woman what medical procedure she can have performed.
If the medical procedure involves killing a defenseless human being (as abortion obviously does) then that medical procedure needs to be banned.
I'm a Albuquerque nm. Love nm, for what we support
Unfortunately, NM has not codified abortion protection in state law. I'm grateful to be here too, because I would be dead from a dangerous pregnancy if I'd lived in any of those horrible states that don't allow bodily autonomy.
You will meet the most loving and compassionate people at these places, they know we don’t go to those places because we want to and that it’s usually a last resort
Christian extremism
You probably also think teens and young adults still using bounce houses is okay..
The constitution ends when peoples feeling or religion gets hurt and that's sad
Your rights end where someone else's begins. Not your body, not your choice.
The fetus is not your body, it's someone else's.
@@corpserepairservice501 actually your rights don't end where someone else's begins. You can't force someone to become an organ donor or even just donate blood to save a life. And when the fetus is literally attached to the body then it is a part of that body. You can't decide for everybody where life begins, in Jewish beliefs life begins at first breath. 1/3 of fertalized eggs never implant in the uterus and are lost during a period, so some say life doesn't start until the fetal tissue actually starts to develop. Some say life begins with the development of an active brain/consciousness which doesn't occur until late in the pregnancy. Your belief is not a fact so don't try to limit other people's choices.
This is very brave and hard
Why did you turn off the comments on the Andrew Tate video..? How convenient 🤔
Pro-Lifers should be taxed!
Leftists should raise their kids instead of murdering them.
Pro-lifers would go as far to try to adopt a dead fetus or near dead fetus. Judging without understanding situation. In those situations fetus was already dead or near dead due to miscarriage or other medical reason but an abortion to expel everything out. This has happened to people I know.
You're body, you're choice
What about the babies body don't they get a choice?
@SutTyphon If they're unwanted or they can't be cared for and don't get aborted, they'll end up in the care system, and that isn't fair for the child or the country. We are an overpopulated planet as it is.
@@blondeboi So what you are saying is it is better for a child to be murdered then for them to live in foster care?
@SutTyphon yes, like, for example, if your daughter was raped would you like her to keep her rapists baby?
@@blondeboi life's not fair
How tf we still going backwards 🤨
We are going forward in our crusade to ban abortion and restore human rights 😎☝️
@@TheEverFreeKing How many unwanted children have you adopted?
Straight back to the dark ages
@@TheEverFreeKing do rapists who get innocent women pregnant provide human rights to people?
True heros, don't allways wear capes ....sometimes they wear scrubs or a blouse...
And sacrifice babies on the altar of the sheer selfishness and depravity of women. People who commit these acts are the greatest kind of murderer. They kill human beings who are truly righteous, those who have not lived long enough to sin or commit evil acts.
You think baby murderers are heros? You have something seriously wrong with you.
Pro choice is not pro abortion. Abortion should be a last measure after education, access to birth control and better financial options for women overall. Bonus better healthcare. But these people don't want that either
I got an abortion back in 2020/2021it was in El Paso, TX. I am pro abortionist. I’m not going into details of why I did. Regardless. These people are life savers. THE ONES ONSCREEN. Let me emphasize. I thought when I first went there. I was going to be embarrassed. None the less, you would’ve never thought people revenue through there; JUST like some type of convenient store it’s like your there to stop and shop. Anyways that’s not my point. My point of my story is to not only bring awareness to those in the field that try to help. But those that do their job carelessly as well! On my way to an abortion clinic, one that I called, and everything. I went inside a building. Now mind you. You can tell that there were abortion clinic nearby from the obvious nahsayers holding signs about it. I went inside this “ clinic”// side note. It may have been my first time at an abortion clinic. But it wasn’t my first time delivering kids. I have 2 already. These people seems so genuine. Sweet, so.. arm opening… they put me in this room, no later then 5 minutes go by their pulling out a sonogram for me to see this baby…. It was honestly traumatic… at the end of this. It’s as if they “ show “ was over. Like they were trying to sell me something. They pulled the drapes quick, turned back on the lights, and started speaking about KEEPING this baby, PERSISTENTLY TRYING TO MAKE ME KEEP THIS CHILD. Not only that. WHEN I HEAVILY DECLINED. THEY ASKED ABOUT ADOPTION INSTEAD. THESE PEOPLE WERE ANTI ABORTIONIST POSING AS A ABORTION CLINIC, EVEN GAVE OUT COUPONS TO HAVE MONEY OFF AT THE TIME CAUSE ABORTIONS ARE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE
First off, there's no need to justify/detail your abortion, it's your choice, and I'm glad you were able to access those services and came out the other side of it ok. That said, yeah, there's some real terrible folks out there posing as abortion clinics to try and guilt you into having a baby, regardless of your personal circumstances, health, etc. VICE actually has a few videos regarding them, you might consider checking them out.
Wow! That's crazy!
I’m so sorry your child did not get a chance at life, adoption is always an option.
I hope you seek out therapy so you're able to mourn the death of your child
You are a terrible person you murdered a baby.
Everyone in this comment section is just a clump of cells.
We're not inside anyone.
Oh boy.
Third trimester abortion has to be made into a national mandatory law right away. It can't be & mustn't just be for cases where the mother's life is in danger.
Brave individuals. Stay strong
💌📩📩....✍️
You probably also think teens and young adults still using bounce houses is okay
they are brave in commiting murder because they use their body like trash...
Small hats but they create big problems
Theese people are heroes. Laura, Jane what women! 💪
💌📩📩....✍️
You probably also think teens and young adults still using bounce houses is okay..
Where oh where to start, what are the advantages to a relationship with a woman these days? Well .... let's start with the risks and disadvantages and see what's left.
Until recently and in some states still is legal.
1. To murder your own unborn son or daughter without your consent. (up to the time of birth in some states)
2. No fathers rights unless your married ( which 50% of the U.S. population is single)
3. If you go to court you are almost sure to lose since A you have no rights and B the courts nearly always side with the mother.
4. If you are married they will take half if not more than all your possesions and you might get to see your children once or twice a month, depending on what the courts say.
5. Even if you don't get to see your children you may very well still have to pay for them until they reach the age of 18 years old.
I could continue but now let's talk about the advantages.
I'll have to get back to you.
Incel energy
@@friccinfrosty4677 surrounded by baby killers, that's going to happen.....you all should really come up with a new label, maybe something like, "good person" or "a person with a soul" or maybe "A person not willing to play your stupid games and smarter than you" ?
@@urwomansfantasy4163 How about "nice guy"?
Shhhhh
Big time incel here.
Death threats will never stop baby murders......duh
What babies?
Nobody is murdering babies.
Oh, your just mad they won't live long enough to be a victim in the next school shooting
What a great way to solve the problem of declining population of the West 😁🤓
Gooo West woaaahhhhh! 🤯💨
We are not suffering a population problem . What is wrong with people who think the earth has 8 million people , 3.1 million children die each year of starvation but some dumbass says hey we need more people.
I don't get it, why be sexually active when you don't want a child and then want to kill it when you get pregnant? Sexual intercourse brings forth babies since the beginning of time. So sad that the unborn suffer in the name of choice. Life is so precious, created by God. Forgive them Lord
cause humans are sex driven and you can't just say don't do this if you dont want this.
You don’t even read the Bible, God is pro-abortion and pro-infanticide. You’re living proof Christian extremists know nothing about the Bible.
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@liliyasgardenchannel8876 you don’t even read the Bible, you’re as ignorant as they come. God is pro-abortion and pro-infanticide.
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Dont think that's a wise choice for a DR to tell you to lie to the ER and not say that you took the pill vs having a miscarriage ... Drs need to know everything going on
Lol, you expect a baby murderer to be ethical?
Some demons walk around in human form. Spiders and predators.
A little harsh but there is certainly many of us that pretend to be other than...
These pro abortion people are evil
Like pro life republicans who marry children all makes sense now!
I agree. Easily spotted by their red hats and big trucks.
"We're going to see a public health crisis."
Me: Take a number.
It is called condoms and plan b it not that hard to be responsible
Many Christians are against plan b or even condoms for that matter
@@EvilTaco Source? Even in the most right wing circles i browse , almost nobody says they are against contraception.
@@EvilTaco I'm not
What about when the condom breaks or when plan b doesn't work? "Responsible" people get accidental pregnancies too...
@Sarah that like like 1 percent, and I'm not saying abortions shouldn't happen I don't like it when treated like just another from of birth control it should be a last ditch all another option have somehow failed
I am never going to stop fighting for us! I am not resigned. The same way women like The Janes fought so I’d have the access to the safe, legal abortion I needed 20 years ago, I will fight for the girls and women who need it today and every day until I draw my last breath.
Don’t have sex use protection then you don’t have to worry about murder of a child
Every unwanted pregnancy is caused by irresponsible and selfish males.
Except you have to be born first to be murdered, so it ain't . And don't give me the crap about a pregnant woman being murdered. That's called destruction of a fetus, maybe educate yourself
The most ironic thing is that conservatives, especially religious wacko conservatives, are that they ARE AGAINST CONTRACEPTION, and seek to ban it in all states where they are outlawing abortion. You guys are pure clowns, and you're definitely not on the right side of history.
Mind your own business, and nobody is murdering children.
Abortion isn't murder, and people are free to make their own choices, and deal with the consequences of them, however they do so choose. Their body, their choice.
Good for these women and doctors.
The forced birthers will not win. Abortion is never going away, and nothing can stop it.
Women are not forced to give birth. Women have a choice to not have sex if they don't want to be pregnant if they choose to have sex and they get pregnant then they aren't pregnant because they were forced to be pregnant they are pregnant because of a choice they made.
You probably also think teens and young adults still using bounce houses is okay..,
Too bad they don’t have adult abortion. It should never be illegal
So brave 🤡
A lot of these people are pro-birth, not pro-life. However, abortion should be the last resort, you should be taking precautions in the many forms of contraception we have today if you know you do not have to have a baby. A lot of these women can’t afford to raise a child, so they end up on government assistance, the same assistance that many pro-life individuals complain about paying for in taxes. Making something illegal doesn’t make it go away.
So we should just get rid of all laws, because people are going to break them anyway? And why should abortion be a last resort? Is it wrong or not? If it's not wrong, then who cares? If it's a woman's choice, then it's her choice to use it as a first resort.
@@travisjohnson7065 Obviously we should not get rid of all laws, making abortion illegal creates women who wish to get one do so in an environment that is most likely not sterile, not safe, and poses a great risk to their health if not done professionally. I do not believe abortion is wrong; however, abortion shouldn’t be used as a form of birth control, there are options you should and can take to avoid accidentally getting pregnant so you don’t have to put your body through an abortion, as it can be very traumatic physically and emotionally.
@@mhofeling5878 Abortion is never safe. It results in death 100% of the time (the entire point of it). Lots of crime is dangerous. That doesn't mean we should just make it legal, to make it safer for the criminals.
If it's not wrong, then who cares if it was used as a form of birth control? Why would that be a problem if it's the woman's choice? And also, why would it be emotionally traumatic if there was nothing wrong about it?
@@travisjohnson7065 abortion regret is a myth.
@@travisjohnson7065 Abortions after 21 weeks are very uncommon… meaning that if you were to take that fetus out it wouldn’t survive. It’s not safe to use abortion as a form of birth control and I think you know that, Travis. Abortions can be traumatic mentally because many women know they can’t support a child, this leading them to terminate the pregnancy, I’m sure a lot of women think about, “what could have been”. We obviously have different morals, and this truly comes down to a moral debate in the end. There can be as much science to back up the fact that late-term terminations are extremely rare and only done if the mother is in danger, and they represent 1% of the abortions that are preformed. At the end of the day if you think life begins at conception, that’s what you think!
Its better to prevent than to abort. No matter what.
I think so as well.
Abortion is prevention.
How many adopted children do you have?
@LadyKate That isn't what I asked.
Yeah that's why there is a legal push to have contraception easily available... Oh wait...
This comment applies to ALL Vice videos: People watch on their phones these days. Your subtitles are great but the font is way too small. Can't be read by humans.
💌📩📩....✍️
Close em up!!!
admirable doctor !
on January 9th, Vice News, like many other liberal news networks, was completely removed from my recommendations list. Please, tell your friends to re-subscribe and hit the bell again.
Why ?
My aunt almost died at a underground clinic In Juarez, Mexico, at the time My mother's family was livin Intel paso Texas.
😭
And your cousin _actually_ died.
Where's Margret Sanger when you need her!! It's become very "dark" as of late...