'God's Law': The Fight to Ban Drag in Idaho
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- A network of Christian nationalist groups are behind a slew of bills banning drag across the country. Vice News meets the leaders of this movement in Idaho and the drag performers who are impacted.
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HE SAID "WE WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO LOOK LIKE IT WAS IN THE 17-1800's" LOL THAT SHOULD ALARM EVERY HUMAN.
"I wouldn't say America was free in the 18th century." "I would disagree."
Really?!?!?!? Institutionalized slavery was free?? Genocide of the native population for white settlement and growth was free??
Out of touch much??
It has, it's alarmed me very much and others. This guy is really scary.
How does the reporter not explicitly bring up slavery, and women's rights? I know he hinted at it, but he should've pushed back harder.
@@jaksanapeor whybdoes your gay az....always bring up blk ppl when defending your lifestyle? Trying to make blk ppl defend you
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Yes, the journalist should have pushed back more on that. I'm pretty sure black people didn't think much of the 'freedoms' this fat cvnt speaks of in the 1800's. Evangelists and the right wing in America seem to feed on ignorance.
"We want government to follow biblical law" - These people scare the sh*t out of me
Do you want your country to be blessed, or judged and in chaos like it is now? It's only going to get worse because of people are rejecting Jesus Christ
@@oshea2300 Yeah Jesus sure is good at protecting the holy… say that to the 3 kids and 3 teachers dead now who were attending a catholic school. Separation of church and state or we will become no better than Afghanistan.
@@oshea2300 You’re who was preached about in the Bible you seek to reach your own desires while using others as pawns to get there.
@@oshea2300 Ever read the 1st Amendment, you psychotic and indoctrinated theocratic vermin?
@@oshea2300 Would you want other religious beliefs to dictate law? Or only your religious beliefs?
See my point? This goes completely against the whole intention and setup of our country. It’s unpatriotic
Dude really said slavery time america was free.
Slavery, killing Natives En Masse and forcing women to marry and have 16+ kids as a "paradise" makes me wanna hurl 😂
Like HOW. IS. THAT. FREEDOM????
And a paradise??? 😂
Good Lord
that's the time maga means that America was great.......
Yeah because he’s white
@@colleennewholy9026
1- Slavery ended at the time he mentioned.
2- no one killed more natives than natives themselves during the American eastward expansion
3- no one forced women to have that many children, people just had a lot of children naturally (still not that much) as part of being rural and earthly. (See Amish women for example, happier than you btw druggie)
you are all uneducated in history itself let alone the Word of the Lord, you all should not even have the right to live amongst the Faithful let alone vote.
@@colleennewholy9026 ok minority
“America was the most free in the 1700 and 1800’s” when he said that I spit out the tea I was drinking I laughed so hard. As a black woman who is bisexual I can assure you my ancestors were not free.
They weren't talking about you.
Eh they probably were before rich people brought them here. Maybe they even sold off some of their cousins to the slave trade! B^}
They don’t even think about you
He meant “most free” to continue their physical and social enslavement of those they marginalized.
@@shylogan5995 neither do your parents
Man, these people better never go to Brazil during carnival. Their heads will explode.
Absolutely. Just ask George Santos.
I love watching carnaval in brazil it's amazing
They go to Mardi Gras in New Orleans.
Haha spot on!
Or Mardi Gras...
Kills me how fast they jump on people playing dress up but not the hundreds of mass shoots that happen within the first few months and continue throughout the year. If they actually cared about people’s lives, about children’s lives, about children …. They would stop them from seeing their classmates killed in front of them and stop mass shootings by the hundreds, not others’ human rights.
my guy is dedicated his life to stop imaginary doctrination, i wonder has he ever asked a kid what they thought--id love that as a kid theyre so stylish
America used to be an awesome, more peaceful, healthy and wealthy country when it was a church going, God fearing country.
1700s and 1800s wow to think that anyone would believe that time was the best time in America is horrifying.
only white men were free at the time!
People are dumb
Witch trials. Such fun.
Literally EVERYTHING sucked more back then compared to now. I don't know how bigoted you have to be to even think that...
Is that when Biden saw those men kissing?
The last point about Footloose is extra damning, since a component of drag IS dance. They DO want to ban dancing
That's next, dresses must cover women's (mens) ankles.
I wouldn’t take my kids to a drag show, but I also wouldn’t take them to hooters, a bikini bar ect. It’s a parent’s responsibility. There are so many other important issues these people ignore like poverty and drug addiction in their state. This shouldn’t even be a thought with the Fentanyl/opioid crisis.
I wouldn’t take them to a church where a bunch of dudes with little hair and glasses tell me how to parent.
Drugs are bad mkay
Culture wars are all right-wingers have to offer the country
They want to mind control and program (groom) the children for their army. Also many are predators (not all) but many
Oh you don't understand, these types don't want to parent, they want to blame everyone and everything else for their shortcomings.
the interviewer laughing directly in his face was gold.
On the day of Judgement it will be the reverse.
Yeh it shows that he was only there to mock any opinion different from his own
@@unsrescyldas9745 separate church and state
I don't appreciate mocking the preacher
@@warm5678 The preacher said gay people have the right to heterosexual marriage, it's pretty hilarious
The journalist wasn't laughing with you, Blaine. He was laughing at you, my guy.
Blaine isn’t straight
I can smell the mothballs on that dude’s clothes through my phone.
Why do you think Uganda just made homosexuality illegal? You probably look at uganda and think to yourself they’re just African poor backwards people. That’s the racism and ignorance rooted in you. They’re actually very very intelligent people especially the president of Uganda himself he’s much smarter than both you and me. You ever think why they made this law? Just think about it. He’s a smart guy who made such a law. Why?
Poor fellow.....🤣
He clearly didn't get it😅
I'm nonbinary and live in Idaho. It's hard for me to even get a haircut. I want into a salon and stylist flat out said "we won't cut a woman's hair like a man". Another place asked me if I had my dad or husband's permission to cut my hair short. It's Hell here, seriously.
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I am so sorry you have to deal with such ignorant humans. 😢
Friend, move here to Oregon. We don't have that bs over here! 🥰
Repent and give your life to Jesus ❤.
@@SouthernGospelSinger777 1 Samuel 16:7 New King James Version - "For the LORD does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart." Assuming that I haven't given my life to Jesus is actually an affront to the word of God. You are putting yourself in the seat of God by passing judgement on me in regards to my relationship with Christ. You should be ashamed.
Says a whole lot about his own kinks if he sees drag as sexual .
Ayyy I can’t even lie I don’t know about most of this stuff but even I know there’s no harm showing kids people dancing being happy
@@whosdatboy122 there is when they are dancing on poles in thin underwear
Drag is literally sexual.
@@whosdatboy122 look up the videos of these drag shows, PLEASE. You will see
@@ferretman6790 bruh some of them are so bad what
If these conservatives were as obsessed with preventing mass shootings as they are with preventing Ms. Doubtfire or Madea from reading books to kids then we might actually have a safer society.
God clearly said "thy shall f them kids, and sully thy name of god to get whatever thy want"
It ain't Ms Doubtfire or Madea who is showing up though now is it?
I still don't get how people feel so threatened by the lgbtq+ community? Like they are the nicest and most accepting people you will ever meet.
@@WhisperingEcho33who do think it is then, jeanette from holland?
@@autumnleaves1997yeah, i know, right? Now trust your kids with a priest and see what happens
"They're trying to build this world where only people like them are allowed to exist" gives me chills.. such an accurate summation. And Blaine kinda creeps me out, poor dear's so deep in the closet he's living in Narnia but looks like he's repressing some serious rage there too.. yikes
.....The FRAMA of it all!!!😂
how dare you not wanting your kids to be sexualized!
@@yourealittlebitfat4344 that's not what's happening. They screech it and never prove it. Then they use it to justify their sweeping bans and bigotry.
that's called paranoia
You nailed that one. My gaydar was going haywire also! Yassss 🎉
The scariest thing about this is not the effect it will have on drag shows. It’s the fact that it will be used to police what clothing people are allowing to wear in public based on their perceived gender. That’s terrifying for trans and non gender conforming people everywhere.
Nah nah only real problem is the ideology pushed onto mfs to reject their biological functions and embrace the machine
Why do people need to twerk upside down in skimpy clothing in front of kids?
@@teru797 not what he ment, but it could strike down on subcultures - hair metal - banned, metalheads - banned, punks - banned..
Youth subcultures of tommorow - banned from visiting public.
You nailed it. The truth is, people who want to implement Christian law want to control a whole lot more than what you wear.
@@teru797 did you even read the comment or are you just saying things
1:50 The same law that prescribes the death penalty for eating shellfish and wearing clothes made of two different fabrics or using crop rotation but allows slavery? That is the "perfect reflection of morality?"
Logic, ethics, or brain not required. Lol
But only lol so I don't go insane
@@jdogdarkness true
@@jdogdarkness it's what happens when one lives in an extremist religious bubble their entire lives. absolute absurdities feel second nature
like i don’t remember a commandment against drag show story time lol
@alexmaynard1624 as always with these people, they disobey the written parts, and live by the ad-libbed parts. Smh. So exhausting.
imagine if these people used their time to fight the real problems in society like income inequality, lack of access to healthcare, better education system. my god.
This ain't a real problem? Who are you referring to as "these people"?
how dare you not wanting your kids to be sexualized!
@@yourealittlebitfat4344read the bible, now that is a sexualized book.
Bruh you whack dude, we do, its called fraud
They do. Religious people like them are doing the volontiere Work and and charity.
The father of the drag queen said one thing and it was one of the most profound quotes in this entire video "They're trying to build this world where only people like them are allowed to exist."
Where have we heard this before?
They talk about facts but they only use feelings.
These "christians" (small 'c') wield the Bible like a club to force others to comply with their idea of god.
Meanwhile REAL Christians use the Bible to HEAL and demonstrate God's power through PERSONAL EXPERIENCES.
These people destroy faith and call it good.
I went to a drag show with some friends a little while back. It’s basically just guys in drag singing and dancing (well lip syncing but you get the idea). It’s a fucking concert. It’s ridiculous that people are trying to outlaw what is basically a type of concert
You would have to be extremely sheltered and sensitive to find drag shows offensive.
@@NJames-dh6kz if you are sheltered and sensitive you still can't be offended by drag shows. They've got nothing to do with you. These people are just filled with biblical lies and hatred.
They're just projecting like so many of these fascists. They insist on displaying their insecurities and ignorance for the rest of the civilised world to see. So sad. America used to be ok. I lived there for 12 years but would never go there again-until of course these monstrous maga's are all re-buried in their trailers.
@@vinnieg6161 Well said. Their ignorance and fear is all they have and the bible can be read to support all of their nonsense. PPure ignorance. That and a lot of inbreeding of course.
its insane that theres a chunk of people trying to ban literal stage performers
They need to put this much energy in the housing crisis, homelessness and drug addiction epidemic. Drag Shows have never hurt anyone 🙄
Yeah it’s a completely manufactured outrage. Drag Queen story hour isn’t a sexual thing at all.
Drag shows have hurt the feelings of religious snowflakes tho ;)
part of the right wing culture war.
crazy people down here about to make up why drag shows hurt people (they dont even know what a drag show is they just now guys wear girl clothes.)
@@Islandswamp bro seek Jesus Christ time is up
That guy definitely gives off closeted vibes
Ya he definitely sucking someone in a regular, they all do! Stright until some dude pulls down their pants in frount of them and yea right away they are face down and butt up in a second!
That and also full metal jacket vibes (the one that shoots himself)
Projection?
@@tylere.8436 I’m out lmao
Meanwhile in the UK, we are mourning the passing of a national treasure of broadcasting, Paul O'Grady, the epitome of mainstream who started out as Lily Savage, drag queen from the mean streets of Birkenhead, becoming both loved by the mainstream and helped numerous animal charities
Our comedy has centred men in dresses for a very long time. I'm guessing Idaho would ban panto?
lol ... oh no
Paul o Grady was far more genuine even in a dress than a man who stands on a pulpit telling people his imaginary friend speaks to him..
(theyll ignore this)
That's what I don't understand about the UK... We had transvestite/non-binary comedians, trans musicians, and even trans reality TV show contestants who ended up winning... And nobody made a big deal about any of it back then. Then the last four years it's apparently what's been destroying our country, according to some...
I love how the interviewer laughed in his face. 😆😆😆
10/10
yes very professional and unbiased. you can tell he didn't have an agenda. 👌 i think the guest handled the disrespect well and came out of the interview as the better person.
It’d be hard for me not to just punch him the face and beat the hell out of him.
@@roseoverdose6451 If he came out a better person, he'd realise that he's being hypocritical. Instead he doubled down on his nonsense of "freedom through oppression"
@@roseoverdose6451 That was such an incredibly stupid point. No sane person can be that unbiased to take that seriously.
Children shouldn't be exposed to all the sex and violence in the Bible
So we take them to a drag show where grown men wear makeup and women's clothing in a hypersexual environment. Where people mask their insecurities with makeup and flamboyance instead of dealing with reality? Haha your kids are fucked 😂
Good point
It’s the way he laughed directly to his face
When he lost it and laughed in his face, so good 😂😂
"Dear God, thank you for giving me the strength to hate others and a legislature to oppress them "
Dear God. Thank you for blessing my family abundantly. Giving us money a bed a shower. For that I'm grateful I will strive to follow your words because of the blessing THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN ME!! MY HEART CAN NOT BE GREATFUL ENOUGH TO THE LORD OF HOST
@@LauraWolf666 because everything is always about you 🙄
👏👏👏 Nail it, Really Somebody!
Not being able to twerk in front of kids while wearing scant clothing is oppression?
@@deepforestfire Laws derived from a 2000 year old fairy tale book is the definition of oppression.
I had a relative many many years ago who was furious about gay marriage being legalized, abt 2 years ago I asked him if he still felt that way and he said “you know what? I was wrong on that one I don’t see any problem with it” fast forward to now and he’s back on the lgbt hate claiming all drag shows are pornographic, having never seen one but the idea of a man in female clothes is just too extreme.
maybe he'll come around in 20 years.
@@kenlandon6130 or maybe he'll come out
Rhetoric can be very effective, especially when you have little to no contact with those you denigrate
@@jazzyg530 lmao
It sucks to have relatives who... For the lack of a better word are just bots. Those rubes out in Kentucky, Texas, wherever are the most gullible people on the planet, and always have been, and have a long tradition of upholding this awful bullshit.
"Biblical Law" in the "Land of the Free"? Give me a break. No one's forcing you to bring your children to drag shows.
Persuading kids to go via social media is basically forcing them
@@theone9705 persuade and force are basically the same? You can’t change the meaning of words. I persuaded you into trying cauliflower…… I forced you to try cauliflower! BIG difference kiddo
@@theone9705 nonsense logic.
" Showing kids adverts for TMNT basically forces them to become fans". This is what you sound like.
@@theone9705
I don't think there's much in the way of public transportation in Idaho, _kids often can't even get somewhere without the parents driving them._ 🤨
@@theone9705 Also, advertising equals force, now?
I was eleven years old the first time I saw a drag queen. I'll never forget it because it was when my mom took me to see Cher in concert for her (first) farewell tour. I asked my mom why those men were dressed like cats, and simply said because they can so why not. It was the most accepting feeling and every walk of life was in that arena: the catmen, grandmas wearing boas, straight couples, gay, everyone. It was the holiest experience of my life, and that's coming from a straight girl who was raised devout catholic. If you wanna see how hateful people can be, go through confirmation.
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Leviticus 20:13
@@EnglishOrthodox Why is a Christian citing Levitical law when, according to your theology, that no longer applies to you, let alone anybody?
The only way to stop a bad guy in drag is with a good guy in drag
#facts
I'd watch it.
😂🤣
.45
What does that mean?
Say it’s not targeting LGBT people and they’re trying to protect children but child pageants are nowhere near the chopping block. Sure.
Child Pageants literally sexualize children! They are what is actually harmful.
You'd agree that some adult activities aren't appropriate for children?
@@karllager2214 yeah, attending religious cults and being raped by the leaders
@Billy Buckman No they aren't even remotely in the same category.
Child pageants have massively pedophilic undertones, while drag shows have a lot of their sexuality muted.
@Billy Buckman Yes, I know, I agree with you.
He says drag is dangerous for children because there is "a wealth of scientific and academic literature that demonstrates the harm done to children by sexual conduct," but only because he personally equates drag with sexual conduct which none of the "literature" says nothing about. He knows this, too. Outrageous. BTW Children can't get into most drag shows. This is a dangerous distraction from their real agenda--power, money, and a world like The Handmaid's Tale or The Scarlet Letter.
Don't Drag Me Down....
The only real life place/country you should be comparing to the Handmaid’s Tale is Poland. End of story
@@adambednarek2007 LOL
Drag shows are almost always tied with sexual activities. It’s beyond inappropriate for children to be present for theses.
How can they get into ANY Dreg show?
Bro smiled and said the 1800 were a good time.
It's so pathetic that this country fights against the wrong things while the world crumbles in real time.
USA has always been controlled by the rich and corporate America. The attacks on LGBT are just distractions, but of course they'll be targeted again by white supremacists and nationalists. The rich wants everyone to forget how racist and degenerate US politics were in 19th century America when everyone except ethnic English people were discriminated against and deemed. The GOP's controlled by the rich to eventually drive us back to that degenerate time, bring back slavery legally in America (it never died in practice).
you are pathetic
Politicians like to use petty social issues (trans bathrooms for example) to distract the public from actual important issues.
Ukraine
Morales are worth stepping up for; 0 tolerance, of this crap [no pun intended]....Sexuality & ARTS do NOT GO TOGETHER....Except Yourself & people in the world shall Except You....KEEP 'PRIVATE, MATTERS P-R-I-V-A-T-E....Drawing Attenteon to yourself is SENSELESS......
If you don’t like drag show…, JUST DON’T GO! LIVE AND LET LIVE…
True, drag isn't the problem but the narcissist parents who want to show it to their children for their egotistical reasons. I'm not saying they shouldn't be allowed to do so but when you see these really young children covered in rainbow flags you should be able to tell that there might be something wrong with the parents. If this guy bans drag shows for children then that doesn't fix the issue of narcissist parents and misguided institutions. You get what I mean?
@@anton1713 Who's gonna change these problematic parents? No one! US society has always pretended to "care" about others. It's always pretend. The ban on drag shows is the same as drug prohibition-- it's not about children or societal health... it's about power and control, and of course money.
@@anton1713 how dare the children... Wear rainbows?
Why don't you say that about religious indoctrination?
@@caramazzola2399 That's not what I mean :) More like: How dare the parents want their child to be trans. I'm talking about abusive, narcissist parents. You think these are all angels bringing their kids to such an event? It's the kind of parents who will let the child tell them their gender. They're sick narcissists or ridiculously misguided.
This entire interview my jaw is on the floor… like religious people really don’t hear themselves… insane
Lmao and you are not dropping your jaw by seeing mentally ill men dressing up all perverted? Sickening.
For having common sense? Lol.
@@AngelicoCiudad You think religion is common sense?
@@AngelicoCiudad common sense? Is not a religion. What he is preaching is a direct message from his religious beliefs
@@sassysaint3096
More common sense compared to woke folks with their 72+ genders and delusional "trap in the wrong body" logic.
I am from Malaysia and I thought this type of things only happen on my side of the world. Its scary to see it so 'global'.
Apa khabar! My spouse is from Malaysia and now lives in the US with me. He's all too aware of the direction some of these things are heading. Scary times.
Yep, transgenders are everywhere, sadly
When he said “@nal g@ngb@ng” I lost it 😂
this guy is good. He also asked a guy who wanted to ban a book, if the book would make his kid want to “drink cxm” and the guy goes
“I don’t have kids..😐”
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Zero books have been banned though.
@@imperialmotoring3789 false
We can just imagine that dude’s Pornhub history.
What is funny about that?
Wouldn’t be even remotely surprised if he’s actively repressing his own same sex attractions.
I really do hope vice gets their financial situation taken care of because I don't want them to go away
Then donate, you cowards!
What situation?
@@zxasdfx It sucks to do actual populist journalism because the general populace doesn't have much money to spare. Righteous journalism isn't profitable.
Shilling out for billionaires, though? They'll fund your work for decades with their pocket change.
@@zxasdfx do you work or live with your parents?
You do all realize that Vice is a multi-billion dollar media company with founders who also have net worth's in the billions of dollars, correct?
I wonder how people of the future will look back on these moments in history
The people in that room haven’t changed or grown in decades and it shows.
I noticed 90% of his audience in the room was 60 yrs old or older.
And white.
@@6ixConfessions That doesn't matter, who cares if their white. There's blacks and Asians and Mexicans who don't want drags. Stop being a moron, and the media lays these groups as nationalist and nationalist isn't even bad it means you care about your nation more then other country's
Yes exactly, they're retired and have nothing better to do than look at misinformation on facebook. My uncle is one of them and he acts like a spoiled brat.
@@samuelfranklin9112 Yeah thats your uncles problem not theirs
And, trumplodyte
I don't get drag. Tbh it makes me cringe sometimes, but all this hate towards them is just plain wrong. All the bills, the labeling them as pedophiles is wrong. No matter how you chose to look at it.
I am Christian but I understand that Biblical law cannot be forced. Jesus made that pretty clear. It is a choice. I am sick of these people using my faith to push hate.
“Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind…the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself." What these people preach is completely antithetical to the faith.
There’s no love like Christian love. 🤷🏾♀️
If there is mention of drag show I will refuse to go within 100 feet of it. They creep me the F out. However, I also say the same for churches. The idea of banning drag seems like way more work than it’s worth.
So, no Tyler Perry or big Mama's house?
I too have no real issue with the concept of drag performances, but riddle me this...why are they so adament all of sudden to perform to/be involved with children? Surely that should set off some alarm bells. At worst it's an agenda aimed at grooming, at best they are using children as part of a culture war. I say leave them out entirely. Let kids be kids.
@@menomisespeanut There's no hate like Christian love.*
Drag shows where anyone under 18 is present should be prosecutable for parent and drag person. 10 yr minimum no parole. In every state. We MUST protect our children ftom adult events and decisions they cant make as children.
i love how sharp-witted, direct, challenging and honest this interviewer and their questions were, especially here 8:17. great work Vegas Tenold!
Anyone who thinks that the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries in America were an 'unparalleled time of freedom' doesn't need to have any influence on legislation. Anywhere.
They let the person being interviewed wiggle out of the answers, but I get it. They have to allow that to even get the interview in the first place. It definitely pushed the limits of what these people will allow you to ask and interview them about. But the true challenging questions and a press for actual follow up responses was missing. Again, I'm not blaming the interviewer here.
The US is neither a theocracy nor needing to become one. The Christians who love God don’t need the consequences of secular law to force them to do so.
Exactly. Same goes for the LGBTQUIA religion.
@@imperialmotoring3789 its not a religion, stop pushing such absurd lies
@@dam8087 The LGBTV community is a cult and a religion at this point. If you reject them they get violent.
@@dam8087 It's a belief system that is not based in science, has holidays and leaders. It's definitely a religion. LGBTQUIA has no place in public (government) schools.
@@dam8087 Boys cannot become girls, speaking of absurd lies.
That laugh was a mix of incredulity and disbelief that it's actually taking place in our nation.
I love how these people feel fine casually qualifying any secular person as evil. Those be fighting words bro, I don't care if you say them through polished teeth
The government official is definitely on Grindr
If protecting children was the real priority, they'd be focusing on where the real child abuse is happening: all around them in their own Churches, by priests and pastors. when was the last time a drag queen was accused of child abuse? imagine being so concerned by people playing dress up ... it's just bigotry and hate, pure and simple
You are conflating certain Catholic problems to all of Christendom.
This is why our founding fathers stressed the separation of church and state.
Yeah... they stressed it so much that all of our dollars we use everyday say "In God We trust"
@@diazjose562 "In God We Trust" wasn't added until the mid-late 1800s. Try again.
@@diazjose562 MAGA christianity is unscriptual!! Jests however did say to give to caesar what is Caesars and give to God what Is God's and Romans 13:1 Commands Christian's to submit to and obey the government and the leaders for they have been established by God!! Jesus and The Apostles were not republicans or democrats or patriots or any such false identity. They were too focused on The Great Commission and didn't involve themselves with the worlds affair's and politics. Maga christians are deceived and don't read their own Bible!! If they had read The Bible, they wouldn't have listened to Trump's false prophets. False prophets.... All of them!! And if your church or pastor preaches MAGA and politics, irs best you leave that church!!
Perry yes!! Jesus even said to give to caesar what is Caesars and give to God what Is God's. Those maga christians are false christian's..
@@diazjose562 Trust does not mean submit. You trust someone, a friend for example, to have your back not to force a collar, a muzzle, or blinders on you. Revisit the gritty version of American history and try to tell me that religious persecution wasn’t one of the reasons the colonists left.
He had a hardy ass laugh at 3:57 😂
Bro busted out laughing, couldn’t hold it in 😂😂😂😂
Drag has been around for decades and its practice was basically untouched, until very recently. What's changed?
@Squ1
RuPauls Drage Race. Media attention and the rise of drag. I personally love drag and think it adds a new flair to culture. At the same time, there are drag performers I wouldn't want my kids to see, based upon their shows. The same can be said for comedians and actors or public figures. It really depends on what I want my child to see and understand, and that responsibility rests with me in making decisions for my child temporarily until they grow up. There are some things my child will see and unsee, and as a parent, I have to roll through the punches and explain it to them. There are some drag race performers who do reading for kids - that doesn't affect me and is up to the parent(s) to decide. What I do not agree with is pushing your beliefs/religion on to someone else because you circumnavigate God's will to freedom of choice. We all have a choice. If you want to change gender, we have the medical resources available to you. Do you want to murder someone? We have an ACE hardware with shovels and bags of lime for you in the back. 😂
Politicians embracing bigotry to get elected.
Drag has been around for millenia.
What changed? Their clear infatuation with involving children.
The republican party needs a fresher platform, their old fear mongering platform isn't cutting it anymore.
The Birdcage (American Remake) was literally my favorite movie in my pre-teen/teen years.
To me, it depicted a family that was extremely loving, hilarious and creative, and was such a stark contrast to the Conservative family their son tried to wed into. It had nothing to do with homosexuality to me: Clearly Armand and Albert had NO intention of making their Son gay.
"Song Of The South" was my favorite!
@george You’re right. Birdcage is a great comedy that in its core shows the creativity behind drag shows. Good flick
@@ManekinPeace I find Blackface minstrel shows to be one of the most creative of the performing arts. Mocking women not so much.
Yea but that's not today's trans community also it was a movie and not real life...
@@dannygreen5477 Literally no one in the Birdcage is trans.
Omg I love when the interviewer just laughs at the guy. Wild. Drag is a beautiful art form!
But not appropriate for children
@@MyName-cw4yrArt is for all
@@sleepyboi188 you don't think context and content are important?
@@MyName-cw4yr People study all sorts of arts at a young age with many different meanings. What is wrong with showing this part of art? Many think they are showing the children explicit performances. Drag has been around for centuries and isn't only for explicit performances. Drag was involved with many things you know well today and has influenced many. Ursula you see from the little mermaid is just one of many examples. You think they'd show the children explicit performances? No drag is more than that.
..its a perversion
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross!" - Unknown
lmao
It’s too nebulous of an idea on top of just generally being morally wrong…any sort of legislation around this would be so vague that it would be up to the interpretation of whoever…which could create a problem for society, greater than whatever problems drag is perceived to represent or create. It’s a precedent that just cannot be allowed to be set. It really does hurt to say it, but America has regressed socially to a very significant degree in the past seven years.
Men are going to get arrested for having their nails painted in public
This kind of legislation intentionally uses broad, vague language. Legislators do the same thing with abortion bans. They want to scare people badly enough that organizations and people are too worried to go anywhere near the topic. Their hope is that venues will no longer host any drag show because they’re too afraid of the liability. Hospitals in Idaho have stopped offering ob/gyn services because abortion bans got too extreme and their facilities and providers were at too much risk. Conservatives are constantly looking to instill fear; it’s what they do.
They’re always about liberty to practice your beliefs in the public, maybe they should try doing the same for everyone around them?
They aren't though. They have never been about liberty, only conformity. The two ideas are exclusive of each other.
Conformity isn’t a “bad” thing. It depends on which type of community you live in.
@@AtomicSymphonic Conformity is fine as a personal choice. Forced conformity is not.
It's because everyone else's beliefs are wrong and Christianity is the only way to save us all. The audacity of christians I swear.
@@AtomicSymphonic I can't think of a time when conformity is good
I really think this is an issue that needs middle ground. I don’t want children exposed to drag queens at a young age, but I also don’t want a country with no separation between church and state
Nobody should be able to dictate where you decide your children may go and whom they may see.
Yet you want to dictate to others where their children may go and whom they may see?
I despise transvestites because of how they were portrayed when I grew up. But I would never take anything from them for my comfort.
Whose church? There ain't one religion everyone has to be.
@@colleenclement474 Christianity
@@colleenclement474 He wants to control where parents can take their children.
At the same time he does not want the extreme right from controlling where parents can take their children.
This is the same line of thinking that allows conservative women to get an abortion because their abortion is moral. Everyone else has abortions for immoral reasons.
Why do Americans fight over this, instead of whether everyone deserves health care?
If they moved all the efforts they put into this kind of stuff and abortion they would have a national health service, not be wrecking the environment and have a properly functioning government.
Plenty of Americans would rather fight for health care. But conservatives keep drumming it up to prevent people's lives from improving.
Propaganda keeps the masses separated and hating each other instead of coming together for common good.
because it innapriote for kids to go to drag queen shows that why we fight over this. do you think kids should be allowed to go to drag queen shows if not then you should be fine with a law like this.
It’s a distraction from the real issues that need to be fixed.
I really want to ask the guy being interviewed why I as a gay man, if I had to get married, would have to marry a woman? Why would I put anyone woman in that scenario? People should be loved and cared for in a marriage and I wouldn’t be able to provide that to someone of the opposite sex because I’m not emotionally or physically attracted to women. It’s not fair to me and it’s CERTAINLY not fair to her.
Yes, the interviewer wasn't great. The fat 'christian' closet queen should have been called out more for his disgusting 'moral' stance.
I'm not a Christian, but having been raised that way (and at one point, being a single college class away from earning ministerial credentials when I walked away from all of that) I can tell you his answer: celibacy and the single life. The Christian answer to gay people who cannot "fix" their "urges" is for them to choose to remain celibate and unmarried. It's literally what churches tell gay people these days. So in this guy's America, you wouldn't be forced to marry someone of the opposite sex, or to put a woman in the position of an unhappy marriage. You'd just have to stay single. It's f'ed up.
Because God said so. That's their answer for everything.
It used to be quite common in the past, for gay men to marry hetero women.
Or lesbians to marry hetero men.
Such marriages were rarely happy for either partner.
im not dating you.
No hate like Christian love.
No love like LGBTQUIA molesting.
@Imperial Motoring if you want tonsee child molesters, head to any church in America
He thinks drag shows are sexual in nature, because he finds them sexually stimulating😊
I love when people say that we should “go back to this” and “return to this” idk how much history y’all read but we live in comparably the best age in time to be alive.. why live in the past
I was thinking the same when I noticed a guy wearin a cap saying 'Make Idaho great again'... whats with the again? Was it ever great? 😅 Must have missed that chapted in my my extended collection of history books.
I could easily sit here and argue why sexualising 5 year old children isn’t ok. But I don’t think I’ll get through to you. If you knew a bit about history … you’d know what happened during nazi germany and how easy brainwashing of a society is.
I would think there are a lot of women, First Nations, black, brown or Asian peoples would love it if society went back to the 1700s.
@@debmcgerrigle3477 if we went back to the 1700s in America I’d be a slave wtf just learn at least a little history love😂😂
@@debmcgerrigle3477 also those First Nations people you speak of were being murdered and displaced
We now have two America's. In one, people's diversity is accepted and celebrated, in the other, the state has taken it upon itself to legislate the morality of others. They want to criminalize behavior that they don't understand or don't like.
I think of it more like Egalitarians vs. Aristocrats.
One side wants to resolve social issues. Like housing or health care. The other wants to be upset because we won't cater to their childish demands.
Unfortunately, the bad guy has more money, resources, and motivation. While we expect somebody else to solve everything for us. And they're using that as leverage against us.
We don't have their pragmatic thinking. We don't have cohesion or long-term planning.
We just sit around and wait for karma to show up. Which rarely does.
1:49 what I noticed is that he uses the word “morality” instead of “religion”. Because most people who oppose these anti drag bills often say that people shouldn’t be allowed to impose their “religion” on others. In truth we have many laws based in morality. Laws banning theft, murder, etc… most things that are illegal are also considered morally wrong. Which is why I believe he chooses to replace “religion” with “morality”. Because it makes the argument or seem more ridiculous than it actually is. Because Religious beliefs can literally say “thou shalt not paint thine own finger nails”, and be viewed as correct by those who belong to that group or ridiculous by those “heretics” who exist outside that group. Religious beliefs can be very particular and even impractical. While morale and law tends to be more practical.
Did you know the majority of people are born with a moral code. Morals do not come from religion.
What is the grounding for your moral law?
@@joefrescoln to not cause others harm. Drag doesn’t harm anyone.
@@beausheffield1895 Some people think "x" causes harm. Some people think "x" does not cause harm. Whatever "x" happens to be, is there an objective standard to ground either view?
@@joefrescoln No, not necessarily, but their should be more reason to believe that something is harmful other than “because my priest said so”. There should be established real world reasons and consequences for why something causes someone harm.
This is what pure evil looks like.
There is a certain type of individuals at ALL evangelical churches.
They're middle aged, single, without any children and usually the focus of many people determined to find a husband/wife for someone so lovely. They're almost always involved in most aspect of church and are usually the nicest people.
If a gay person is manipulated by religious people they trust before they learn to love themselves for who they are as an individual, that's what happens
They become almost like nuns. No children. Never have loved someone or even dated someone.
You can spit them easily as they're constantly "on fire for God" and invested like no other.
In hindsight, I realize those were all tormented souls who surely hate themselves. Every sermon that speaks of being gay as some sort of twisted perverted illness must hurt like no other.
I've been to discipleship training and was a worship/youth leader before I came to my senses and grew out of my naivety. Though I'm not religious anymore, I feel growing up in the church was good for me in some ways but till this day I think of all those people that everyone's baffled have never dated at age 50
The amount of self hating closet gay people church creates is ridiculous. Imagine how much life these people miss out on because of religion smh
Methinks the person who is trying to take Idaho back into the dark ages with these laws might be repressing something within himself.
He sees himself in the other and he hates it
When I first heard him speak, he's a closeted bear. Just listen to his voice lol
Erryone knows the first things kids want to do with a fake ID…
Go to a Drag show! Hell yeah!!!
"God's law is the perfect reflection of morality" should be the scariest quote for citizens. "God's law" includes stoning and allows slavery... everyone's interpretation is different but they're passing bills on this threshold. This is so scary
I saw a video. This guy seriously sat there saying the pride flag has no business being in schools because it represents sex and sexual world. I think what is crazy is people see what they want to see in symbols. I am no pro queer or anything but I just see acceptance, that flag symbolizes accepting people different than we are which is a virtue children should learn.
7:40 "It would look more like the United States in the 17 and 1800's" Imagine thinking that America was so much more free at this point in time.
“Man this is a good crowd” 😂
very diverse and with high IQ.. :)
i’m so sick of all this why can’t we just all live with our differences
Some of us can. The Nazis can't. The theocrats can't. The authoritarians more broadly cannot live and let live. They think they have the truth. You not living their truth makes it obvious they don't. They can't handle that.
Because religion compels you to force everyone around you to be like you or die.
Because “LGBTQI+100SEXUALORIENTATIONS+100GENDERIDENTITIES+MORE+MORE” will divide humanity into species. Men and women aren’t meant to be together on this earth.
1. Utopian fantasy
2. Religion causes conflict
3. Conflict is inevitable insofar as their are differences amongst people
As someone who lives in Idaho and has lived most of their life in Idaho, I am SO ashamed! This breaks my heart.
Oh my dear, I hear you!!! I’m ashamed of my home state as well. I hoped in the 41 years since I left, I would see some forward thinking but it honestly looks like they’re proudly going backwards. Such a beautiful state filled with so much ignorance and hatred. Stay strong 💕
I live in one of the most republican towns in idaho, and I get discriminated for being hispanic
Time to leave your state if you want to stay in control of your body.
you should be more ashamed of the evil drag\lgbtbulshit agenda do to children , you should be more ashamed of immorality and sexual promiscuity are normalized
@@Death_Cookie I live in the southeast Idaho area and am African American. I was the ONLY African American person in my high school. It’s so hard living here. I love how beautiful it is, but I can’t stand the people.
I can’t believe these people just outright say they want to go back to the 18th century 😂😂😂
This guy blatantly said: Yeah, we will impose our morality upon everybody. Americans, if you would like tot stop religious fundamentalism. You have to put a stop on these people.
Now you're getting it. You sound exactly like them. That's not an accident
Drag is one of the most disgusting things I’ve seen. The downfall of our society is right here in front of us. People with mental illness that actually need help instead of coddling and pushing this garbage
What is so disgusting about drag?
@@Kevorama0205 fat ugly men dressing up as women and vice versa. What’s the appeal? I don’t agree with the religious aspect of the bills but the last thing our country needs is more of these freakshows, especially for children
Wow...with every passing day, Atwood's 'The Handmaid's Tale' looks more prophecy than fiction. Thx, Vice. The best reporting out there.
Exactly. And they won't stop until we're all forced to live our lives abiding by antiquated, irrational, religious B.S laws. With the exception of those who make those laws. They'll do whatever the hell they please behind closed doors just as they always have.
Don't forget Amy Coney-Barret is LITERALLY a handmaid. Her cult inspired that book from what I understand. She has to obey w.e men tell her, without question.... #1600sChick
All dystopia is a diagnosis not a prophecy
imagine being a dude saying this. Gross lol.
@@akiko2096 anime pfp
Doesn't want it as criminal law because they know prosecutors would never chose to enforce it. You can see the truth right there.
Well not the Soros paid prosecutors. You got that right.
Thanks for explaining that bit. I had to turn on subs and crank the volume to even hear the words he was saying. And I still didn't understand what they mean.
Exactly. As plain as day.
I know nothing is forever, but Vice is killing it this year and I'm just loving the ride while it lasts
Trans people are killing too, themselves lol
Vice is back
ya'll are really surprised? It's Idaho, it's one of the most rahcist and homophobic states in the country lol it's a red state, come up with some new content that's why Vice is dying off. we already know Idaho sucks. the only people that want to live there are Christians and r ednecks.
they’re trying to move away from that neoconservative war propaganda they’ve been producing for the U.S. nonstop since 2010
@@whateverwhatever4026 i’m not a bot and i don’t work for a russian troll farm. i just have these things called memory and critical thinking.
8:55 Thank you for that response.
That statement was unreal. They can also marry, by marrying a random person. lol
YES! the hypocrisy is just baffling. You can't help but explode in laughter.
This was fantastic, even if it wasn't the most professional. It looked like an honestly amused and disbelieving laugh (which the man deserved).
You have to remember the whole reason we have marriage is because of religion. It's the very origin of marriage in society. So yelling out "what?" like this is kind of naive and silly to be honest. What did you expect a devout Christian to say? I personally don't care if gay people want to get married. Just keep drag away from schools. Drag is clearly sexual in nature and it shouldn't be something we subject our youth to. Really people need to wake up and look at these things at face value. Would you invite a stripper to a school to have them dance and celebrate straightness? No. You wouldn't. It's wrong.
@@mrorange159 Have you ever been to a drag show? I'm guessing by your high moral compass the answer is no. Drag shows are nothing like strip clubs and frankly, if you want your children to not be exposed to sexual content take away all their access to the internet lol. Don't go bothering people who didn't do anything wrong and are just expressing themselves through makeup and dance and having fun.
Why aren't they fighting this hard to ban porn or even push for age restrictions? that has true significant side effects especially when the CHILDREN are able to access it FOR FREE.
As a non -Christian thinking that Christian law might be the normal laws is pretty terrifying.
The original Constitution of the United States that was ratified in 1789 had only ONE REFERENCE TO RELIGION: [Article 6] No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any Office or Public Trust under the United States.
The de facto motto of the United States, adopted as part of the Great Seal of the U.S. by an Act of Congress in 1782, was E. Pluribus Unum (Out of Many, One). Congress changed it 174 years later (1956) to "In God We Trust".
The ORIGINAL 'Pledge of Allegiance' was written in 1892 by Baptist Minister Francis Bellamy who DID NOT INCLUDE the words "Under God". Those were added by Congress 62 years later (1954).
The U.S. didn't issue Paper Currency until 1861, & 'In God We Trust' didn't appear on it for 96 years (1957).
“As the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian Religion" ~ Treaty of Tripoli; initiated under President George Washington, 1796, signed into law by President John Adams, 1797, ratified unanimously by the Senate, 1797, published in full in all 13 states, with no record of complaint or dissent.
"I am for freedom of religion and against all maneuvers to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another."
--Thomas Jefferson, letter to Elbridge Gerry, January 26, 1799
“Christianity neither is, nor ever was part of the common law.” Thomas Jefferson
“Religion and government will both exist in greater purity the less they are mixed together.” James Madison
We've been on a tilt toward another Dark Ages for several decades now. They don't want parents to have autonomy over what their children can see, read, experience, they want THEIR view of "responsible parenting" to be what EVERY parent has to accept.
The constitution was written over 265 years ago.
It is, by far, the OLDEST and most ancient working document in the entire world.
Every other country…on this planet…has grown and adapted their constitution to the way their society looks currently.
We are the ONLY ones with the audacity to think that some 250 year old dude knew what was best for us today.
Calm the dramatics, dude.
Your entire argument has nothing to do with morality or rationale. It’s all “well…this says it’s bad”.
Think for yourself.
Stop marrying yourself to someone else’s predetermined opinion.
@@Spear_of_Horus why do we have to limit them to just adults? Adults, who wear clothes, can read to any child, in any library. Libraries are public forums. This is like asking, why do black people want to read to children in libraries. Because that's where people go for education and literacy.
@@cooldrop02 ridiculous conflation
@@Spear_of_Horus a lot of LGBTQ+ people (like me) got bullied as kids.
People who do Drag Queen Story Hour are trying to a) get kids to like books and b) create a little acceptance for kids who will turn out to be like us as they grow up.
You know...not quite fitting in the gender box.
@@karllager2214 yup. The person I responded to made a ridiculous conflation in the form of a question.
So because these folks get turned on by drag shows and feel ashamed of it... The next step is to pass laws... That tracks.
Remember people, Idaho has strong protections for the Second Amendment. If you ask me, it's time to fire up the 3D printers, head to the gun store, and make it *very* clear that should this moral panic turn violent, we have the means to defend ourselves.
You go far enough left, you get your guns back...
@@brittanywalker6460 Very true. Democrats hate the Second Amendment, true leftists understand why it keeps all of us safe.
I heard it’s because drag show attendance was outpacing Sunday church attendance 🫣.
Yes the 1800s when I was considered the same as a chair.. great
Always remember, hate is not innate but learned.
Its innate
@@ErenJaeger-kx7wn Bias is innate. We all have natural biases. Hate is learned.
"We shall show them our peaceful ways... BY FORCE!"
9:00 This is actually a very profound question. People who never stop to honestly ask themselves "am _I_ the bad guy here?" - the only people who can reach the point of becoming a cult leader or an authoritarian tyrant are **people who've never even had a mere **_glimmer_** of a doubt that **_they're_** the "good guy."**
With the concept of “inappropriate movements” most things such as movies, tv shows, music videos, and cheerleader shows, any dance, etc. would be deemed inappropriate. These pricks enjoy anything done unless it is done by men in a dress…perhaps they are confused with what makes them uncomfortable because they, they, are gross.
Yes, men in women's clothes is pretty gross I agree
@@jponz85 Are you freaked out when women wear pants?
@@alexwyatt2911 it's pretty disturbing isn't it? We used to play dress up in kindergarten not as full grown ass adults. Gender dysphoria really is a thing you know.
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
8:53 in... The most hilarious outburst of laughter I've ever seen!😂😂😂
Made me go back and watch Klinger clips on MASH. First ‘drag show’ I ever watched.
I always thing of that! Klinger was one of my favorite characters when I was growing up. No one was yelling about it back then. This kind of stuff makes me so sad.