How a new Christian right is changing US politics - BBC News
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- Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2022
- A new battle of faith is being driven by some pastors and politicians in the United States.
Their central message is that the country's conservative Christian way of life is under threat, and American society is moving in the wrong direction.
The BBC’s Barbara Plett Usher explores the impact of this growing movement on US politics.
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Two people you should never trust:
-A religious leader who tells you how to vote
-A politician who tells you how to pray
“There are people who want the President dead” there were people who wanted trump dead were was his voice then. There were people tweeting about it on Twitter why were their accounts not banned.
One type of person you should never trust:
- journalist
You're goddamn right, Heisenberg.
And vice versa. Let your conscience be your guide.
I wouldn’t trust the BBC.. far left bbc
It's so ironic how they don't realize that they're responsible for why people are turning away from Christianity.
Not socialism like USSR china
Do you see the left as responsible for why so many are turning towards it and becoming more vocal and active?
big reason as to why i left. i was tired of defending my faith because of them
Exactly likee
Seriously it’s so hateful I’ve never seen anything like it.. This isn’t the Christianity I grew up with.. Churches never combined religion and politics.. Trump signs inside the church flags everywhere what the hell is this.. I’m in a rabbit hole on RUclips right now this is strange
Anytime I see someone calling themselves a “patriot” I immediately know what they truly stand for and this is it.
Patriotism and nationalism in 2024 broadly means totalitarianism. They think they need a strongman, like Trump, with the backing of the invisible man in the sky.
It’s a red flag. Every time it’s always people like in this video 😄
'Patriotism is a pernicious form of idiocy "
Because of the way they act, the word patriot is losing its meaning. It's more like treason.😢
And not a hint of irony when a religious "leader" complains about leftist indoctrination when trying to get Christianity in schools
As a German who has done an exchange year in East Tennessee, I’ve got to say that people there didn’t question things , my host family forced me to go to church with them even tho I wasn’t religious, and every time I looked around the church , people just sat there and believed everything that the pastor told them , one of the things was to vote for trump „because god said so”
Yup that's sounds like america too me.
Welcome to the land of the free! Now sit down and shut up.
It was the same where I grew up in Alabama. We had a German exchange student and they were free to do whatever they feel like, but they'd get pressured to go to friend's churches at school.
Freedom of conscience was totally ignored with that particular host family. They apparently forgot that you were a guest, not their offspring. My apologies to you.
They probably thought they were saving you from your godless ways.
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"We are the Christian Taliban."
Just the fact that he even says that proudly and unironically is disturbing on so many levels!
We are Conquistadors, that would be how i put it.
@@magatism so... genocidal and trying to establish slavery?
@@allandill2033 Have you read the history, native populations were not genocided, they were wiped out becoz they didn't have resistence to new diseases and less than 2000 were shipped as slaves out of the population of nearly six million.
So, though techinacally correct, you lack the historical perspective.
Conquistadors also brought Christianity, these people offered human sacrifice of entire defeated tribes, they also brought, horse, and education and healthcare, for every fortification built, they also established a mission, some still operate. You wouldn't be able to step in Latin America had not the Conquistadors arrived. And they would have probably be attacking nations and offering you as human sacrifice if Conquistadors. The change you see has not come by itself.it's the Christianity effect.
Can't wait for the World Cup to be in America
@@magatism there were many more slaves than only 2000. Plus, the spanish used slaves in South America, so they really didnt have to export them. And that's not including the "encomiendas", where the indigenous people would be put under forced labor as tribute and rewards for the conquest. The rape children of these "encomiendas" were called "mullato's" and became second class citizens for the Spanish.
And also not to mention the Asiento de Negros, which gave the Spanish monopolistic control over the African slave trade and ensured slave labor would reign in the region well into the 1800's. That is what actually happened.
Didn't they also welcome the Spanish until they imprisoned Montezuma? I'll make sure not to hold their leader hostage so I shouldn't have to worry about them sacrificing me. I'll just also ignore all of the other major tribes that would be in the region and didn't have human sacrifice. 🙄 Read the book: Lies My History Teacher Told Me. You will realize how much bullshit the "Spanish saved the South Americans" really is based on first hand writings.
The gullibility of people in this country is profoundly embarrassing.
Endoctrinatation is different from guilability... One needs to have in mind that in the united states , people are forced from young age to adore flag and national anthem since early school years in a way that only dictatorships do ... And i was raised two doors down the man that topoled the salazar dictatorship in Portugal where during the Dictatorship the ideals forced into the people mid 20th century were exactly the same as in america now where even taking a knee is a scandal where in every other country is a sign of respect..... Guilability we all have ( i have ptsd my own was abused often ) ..... Endoctrinatation though ... Its a much more difficult problem to solve especially in a country where most ppl descendant from migrants now hate migrants while reading from the gore fest which is the King James ( the Genocidal Rapist ) bible which is the only sect of christianity that believes and glorifies the apocalipse of the end-time driving most christian zealots into more extremism than all religious ppl i see in Europe..... And i go evety day to the shop across the road to be served by a afghani man that got all is family killed by war ( and is the most peaceful kind and tolerant person i know ) ....... Endoctrinatation is a real problem and the USA is suffering a lot from it ... I hope americans get some sense soon before worse than January 6th happens ... And lest we forget the Bush family is trying to overthrow Democracy in favour of fascism since the 1930s and Prescott Bush that also planned to storm Washington and thankfully was stopped by Smedley Buttler... America is dealing with 1 century of the elite sponsoring fascist endoctrinatation, not guilability
( But i see from where you are coming from ... Not disagreeing with you ... Just adding up )
embarrassing??????????????????????????????????????
how about terrifying? they get to vote too!
Growing up I read those stories about the antichrist and wondered how people could be so damn brainwashed. And here we are. It's a sight to behold.
@@Mickey_Valentine 2020 riots were by far worse than Jan 6.
Agreed, it us almost beyond comprehension!
If you've ever wondered about the Politics of Religion in the world, Here is a short list of the Results of Religious Differences and the approximate Death count:
The Crusades: 6,000,000
Thirty Years War: 11,500,000
Spanish Inquisition: 5,000
French Wars of Religion: 4,000,000
Second Sudanese Civil War: 2,000,000
Lebanese Civil War: 250,000
Muslim Conquests of India: 80,000,000
Congolese Genocide (King Leopold II): 13,000,000
Armenian Genocide: 1,500,000
Rwandan Genocide: 800,000
Eighty Years' War: 1,000,000
Nigerian Civil War: 1,000,000
Great Peasants' Revolt: 250,000
First Sudanese Civil War: 1,000,000
Jewish Diaspora (Not Including the Holocaust): 1,000,000
The Holocaust (Jewish and Gay Deaths): 6,500,000
Islamic Terrorism Since 2000: 150,000
Iraq War: 500,000
USA Western Expansion ("Manifest Destiny"): 20,000,000
Atlantic Slave Trade (Justified by Christianity): 14,000,000
Aztec Human Sacrifice: 80,000
African AIDS deaths due to Catholic Church's opposition to condoms: 30,000,000
TOTAL: 195,035,000 deaths in the name of religion. And the "HITS" just keep on coming...
*Inquisition spain was 6000.000 death idio*t!* (because in spain majority was muslim and jews before catholic church inquisition and all latino in spain was descend from arabians sephardic) #Btw iam and billion latino in south american, spain and portuguese was have middle East dna (dont forget your dna bro) #WeNotWhitePeople #WeAllLatinoAndJewsDescentFromMiddleEast 😂
ruclips.net/video/QF_SiHj2lG4/видео.html Sam Harris about religions
Your making stuff up besides didnt atheist commies kill much more? And fascists as well who denounce most aspects of religion? I researched about the Islamic conquests the 80m claim lacks proper evidence and is disputed and even the decrease of population by 30m claim from 1000-1500 is also disputed and there are reports that Hindu population did grow under Medieval Muslim rule as India is densely populated like China and has so many people Wars would easily destroy lands combined with droughts as well as Plagues that could contribute to death, US expansion did not lead to 20m deaths thats cap, of the 70 or 90m Natives in both Americas the amount that are in the midwest is, great plains and rocky mountains is low and 90% of all natives were killed by Plagues and those who were actually genocided had been genocided by the Spaniards in numbers lower than 10m. ''islamic terrorism'' did not cause 150,000 deaths, if your talking about ISIS then yes and most deaths were btw of Muslims, Iraq war is correct however its a capitalistic war not a religious one that was started by greedy cooperations, the Armenian genocide was led by the Ottomans true who btw were controlled by the 3 Pashas under the Young Turk rule who are nationalists btw and genocided the Armenians, Greeks and indirectly the Assyrians. Also many Arabs accepted Armenians into their lands as in rescured them hence the huge Armenian communities you see in Syria and lebanon and small ones in Palestine and Armenian-Arab relations back then and now are really good so I doubt its religious. The last one about the catholics not letting people wear condoms leading to deaths is simply not true and its BS, since the Catholic church prohibts sex before marriage and fornication and butt sex as well so technically it decreases it not increase. Congolese genocide by King Leopold II was about rubber and about consolidation and about making the most out of the congo economically, there were literally no religious incentives. The holocaust done by the nazis was in the name of racial purity not religion, the guy Hitler a ''christian'' hated his own religion and said he wish that they were conquered by the muslims a millenia ago to develop a strong warrior like aryan culture even then he wasnt a muslim or a proper christian and he had woodo superstious beliefs in racial purity which are extremly authoritarian but far from religious.
the Muslim conquests which saw less than 80m people die with many being armies dying or droughts/plagues spreading at the time of conquests which saw many people die would decrease it to 10-15m people most not in the name of religion hindu or Muslim but as a consequence of war but I will count it. Removing the 30m figure which you blame on catholics thats 30m less so far 100m less, Holocaust not being about religion but authoritarian ''secular'' ideology 6m less, Congo genocide not being about religion but trade and business 13m less, The US expansion in manifest destiny could not have killed 20m its statistically impossible so I will decrease it to 1-2m thats 18-19m less which is a exaggeration but a realistic figure, Iraq war being about consolidation and prompted by weapons arms manufacturers so its in the name of money and US consolidation of power, that removes 500k also about the trans-atlantic slave trade some religious justifications were made but it was mostly about economics, cultural and racial superiority rather than religion so I will remove that as well:
so far its 195m - (70m + 30m + 13m + 19m + 6.5m + 500k + 14m) = x
x = 37.5m
If we were to count it 15m instead of 10m, 2m instead of 1m
then its at best 44.5m deaths by ''religion'' even though this was at a course of more than 1000 years now looking at the deaths that the Nazis, Japanese, communists and secular capitalists caused its more than 100m with communism accounting for more than half. So The two conclusions are that its either secular ideologies are worse than religion or that killing is a inherent part of human nature transcending any form of belief or ideology.
Good list.
You could say that the third reich was religious... and not everything listed are results of religious differences, like the Aztec human sacrifice. But any ethnocentric belief system will be diametrically opposed to others and will be willing to eliminate them. It doesn't bode well for america. That might be another 200M just by itself.
Because of people like them, I started to question religion, in a way I truly thank them.
you're brave and right
You're not genetically like them. You don't fit in, so you move out. I've met people like you to just don't "get it" and have moved to liberal communities.
"Those who can make you believe in absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire-
Too true. Has happened repeatedly around the globe all through history.
As an elderly, disabled, impoverished transman here in the USA, I am very aware that it is increasingly more likely that I will become a target of a fatal hate crime now than during my pre Stonewall upbringing during the post world war 2 wave of anti LGBT+ pogroms.
Makes me think about the 'Religion is the opium of the masses ' dictum by Marx '. These people act as if they'r insane , or drugged .
Trangenderism
Definitely a triple right on!!!!
I just wish they'd see how it's all borne from their instinctual unease towards change 😮💨
We have a serious lack of critical thinking skills being taught in our schools here. This is what happens when you keep defunding education and stop teaching basic civics.
Florida: I agree. The great US is going to be a country of morons one day if they don't get a grip on the education and guidance of the children.
100%
Yes. But we've been saying for the past 30 years that schools don't teach civics anymore, etc. But it isn't just the product of those "failed" modern schools that is so clueless. There are so many people who went to school in the 50's 60's, 70's, who think that there will be military tribunals and summary executions of civilians... and they seem to believe that is a _legal_ solution to political differences. The problem isn't the lack of education, the problem is the growing push of extremism and the failure to confront it.
There's more to it than that but you're not wrong
I agree 100%, which is why people group together to huff each other's farts when they see a propaganda piece like this from the BBC.
I am not a Christian. What I am is a democrat, a believer in a democratic system of government. It is, as yet, the best form of government we have.
I'm not against people having Christian beliefs. If you wish to belief in a God thats your right, that's your personal business, believe in it.
All I ask is that I be given the same right not to believe in a God. That I be allowed to live my life as I believe it is best for me, and for my family. I don't want Christian values forced on me. I don't want to be described as an enemy of my country because I am an atheist. I am not an enemy of my country, I am not your enemy. I am a democrat. A believer in the right of people to have freedom of choice, freedom to persue happiness and freedom from religion.
Religion is just an extension of the person. In the hands of the good it will do great things, in the hands of evil it will do terrible things. For me to force you to believe in God or threaten to torture you or exile you if you don't is morally wrong and not good and would not resonate with me. We are all on a personal journey in life and it is not for me or anyone else to tell you what your path should be
Amen to that. I am a Christian and believer. I do respect those who thinks different than me. However I separate Church and Politics. Even the Catholic Bible makes such distinction.
It’s just like people don’t want to be forced to call one person”they” I’m all for respecting people if they want to be a woman and they’re a man and they want to be called a different name that’s fine but this pronoun stuff is absolutely insane. This is why these crazy religious zealots are flourishing because the gay agenda and the trans agenda is being stuffed down people’s throat. Yes it’s important to teach tolerance, but it is getting out of control with progressive’s agenda.
@@GenZBased What if it were some other religion besides yours that wields political power? Would you like that? Are you a Latter-Day Saint (“Mormon”)? I assume not. You may even (as most fundamentalist Christian sects do) consider them a Satanic cult.
Now let’s imagine that Mitt Romney had won in 2012. He wouldn’t’ve done this, but imagine that he would: use his authority as President to issue Executive Orders banning things that Mormons sincerely believe is sinful, such as alcohol, tobacco, coffee, and tea. Not just for their fellow Mormons, but for _everyone,_ including you. Should he have the right to do that?
@@GenZBasedrequiring schoolchildren to swear an oath to a piece of cloth every morning, for starters. Some faiths, like Quakers, don't swear oaths or loyalty to earthly powers.
Requiring schoolchildren to say that they are under god, because not all of them practice a religion. If they rotated the pantheon, like proclaiming they're under Zeus, Allah or Cernunnos, would you agree with that?
"Voluntary" prayer in school, like at Texas football games, becomes involuntary when the coach is leading it, when students who are not participating are urged to join, or benched after standing by their principles and not joining the herd.
If you can't teach your child your religion at home and in your place of worship, why do you want publicly funded schools to teach it?
Keep your religion out of public education. Kids should be learning reality in school, like the Earth isn't flat or hollow, the moon landing happened, and how to apply reason and logic to new things.
As a non religious American, these people can keep their “faith” the hell out of my government.
If church wants to play politics, TAX'EM like the rest of us!
👍 100%
Absolutely.
Yes yes yes‼️
no, taxation is theft. stop feeding the crooked politicians lmfao
👎
Any church that takes political stances and literally talks about voting for specific political candidates should no longer have any sort of tax exemption
in Other words yiu want to Punish them. Too bad. Churches are tax Exempt whether Political or not.
Also, not all Churches are 501 C so o, that silly They break the law Argument is Not Really true. Nor does The Constitution bar Church's from Speaking on Political matters.
AMEN!
@@skwills1629 Fine. Then they should pay taxes. Like everybody else.
@@ben5073 - The Thing us, Churches are not People and You don't want Atheist Groups to Pay taxes, so You aren't Really treating them "Like everyone Else", You're Just Lying about them being given a Special Exception No one else has.
@@ben5073 that won't ever happen you gotta understand christian nationalism. they want the whole cake my dude. they want it all. they want the power to make sure it all only protects them and persecutes everyone else that's an other to them.
I came to know Christ in jail in 2013 by reading a book, "Overcoming spiritual blindness" by James P.Gills MD. The veil was taken off my eyes. Heaven came through for me in my finances too,getting $35,500 monthly. I can support God's work in and give back to my community. God is absolutely more than enough!
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“I am 100% for freedom. That’s why I want my government to impose my religious beliefs on everybody and make it illegal not to follow my beliefs 💜”
Separation of Church and State is to protect faith based people from the Government interfering with their beliefs.
And to protect the people from being legally tied to a forced religion
@@christopherhillman3551 no it isn't... firstly, secularism was started in the UK by George Jacob Holyoake and it was to protect the people from the churches. In america the secular movement started in the 1920s and it was given wheels by "the association for the advancements of atheism" and the humanist movement. It has always been to protect the people from religious extremists rising in government and to stop those who do rise from being able to change very much.
@@tarilh3627 yeah that's more like it. First guy has zero clue 👌
@@RepeatBennett it's illegal for a government agency or program to promote any type of theological ideology. The point is not to promote atheism it's to promote religious freedom. Secularism is a good thing.
As an American that is also an Atheist; I think that religion should remain separate from the government. Mixing religion & government together has had a lot of terrible consequences in world history.
people beliefs should be challenged & questioned. they must be told it clearly. freedom is to accept it or not in a personal level.
How about secular humanism? That is a religion, ruled as such twice by the Supreme Court. Secular humanism has its own definitions of right & wrong, sin & virtue, wisdom & ignorance, truth & falsehood. Secular humanism defines its own "sins". And adherents of SH force their views into law.
Contrary to what many Americans believe, the Founding Fathers were mostly _de facto_ Deists, with some Unitarians and Quakers.
@@claudeabraham2347 that isn't a religion, it puts responsibility back on to the people and makes each person responsible for the good of others. Secular is without religion or God, there is no belief not backed by evidence.
I agree, government and schools have no place for any religion. Any one religious belief goes against science and goes against other religions.
To have it in government would alienate one group or another, it's best left in churches, homes, and individual beliefs.
That is what is legal and right for everyone. But we know that it influences peoples decisions and people think they are doing good or gods will to elevate something so important to them. It's a cycle that won't end.
“our kids don’t even know the 10 commandments” well who’s job is it to teach them?
As a European, from Portugal, I pride myself in the ecumenical celebrations we have yearly with bishops, rabis, imans and other religious leaders, in a display of tolerance and acceptance in the community and the wider country.
This is something which is not flashy or loud, but it really makes a difference. Looking at the US from Europe, this is really, really strange. And by the way, I was a senior high school foreign exchange student so I really hope the US overcomes these divisions.
Lol good luck, keep importing Muslims and platforming Imams
What’s scary is that they’re not questioning what they’re being taught. A good student questions and challenges teachings. A better teacher allows this. How else can we become better? Think for yourself.
Neither do the irreligious people who critique these christian nationalists. Why is secularism good, why are these religious people wrong in wanting to enforce this. Why does a theocracy entail oppression of other faiths even though that is not really historically accurate? Why do I assume moral claims, like murder being morally wrong objectively, or at least act like its objective? They dont, thats why im making the effort to actually question their beliefs, rather us being questioned solely.
@@Wartensteiin because you White piece of sheet America doesn't belong to you it once belonged to thw natives untill you guys hijacked it huh
You're being taught everything is racist, yet you don't question that.
Bah bah bah
@@HappyHermitt Straw man argument. No one is being taught that "everything is racist." The systemic racial discrimination embedded in the foundations of U.S. society is a fact.
@@NSOcarth 417 genders, men get pregnant, give birth, and breastfeed/ get periods. Zzzz
I am European and clearly a social democrat. At the same time, however, I am strongly influenced by Christian communities (I even lived and worked with anglican Franciscan brothers for two years in the UK). It is so strange for me to see that this group of fanatics have completely lost sight of the fact that their country was founded on the principle of freedom - and now want to undermine religious freedom so fundamentally.
Not to mention the fact that true Christians would respect and honour every other religion and approach it with open arms. Reminder: love your neighbour as yourself.
But then to boast of being "Christian nationalists" and to radically ban other religions from social coexistence, to want to link government and religion so closely together is nothing other than fascism for me.
You are 💯 % correct. Most Christians are NOT Nationalists.
Agreed. As a religious person myself, I’m disgusted and saddened because it goes against American Tradition. It almost feels this movement is taking the name of God in vain.
I live in America for 60 years now and there has always been a strong Christian presence without it being in our public schools. We do not want to be like the middle Eastern countries, just look at them to see what happens when you mix politics and religion. We have the freedom to worship how we want, We also have the right to have freedom from religion.
@@michaelabbott8674 It is blasphemy to misrepresent a God of love as a sock puppet to support one's own fear and ignorance based revanchism. There is no 'almost feels' about it!!!!!!
White Christian Nationalism is an ethnocentric ideology that uses symbols of Christianity to gain political power and social status and control. It is not Christianity. White Christian Nationalism is the underpinning of racial hate groups like KKK. It is the underpinning of the MAGA movement and Donald Trump.
Balance is the Key to Life. Life is not just Black and White.
Conservatives absolutely see only black and white. Liberals absolutely only see shades of gray.
Their preoccupation with controlling others betrays their insecurities.
Narcissists
Religion should be a personal journey, about self reflection, about doing good, being empathetic and compassionate towards others. Being a decent human being. When people mix religion with politics it becomes something else completely.
I am a slave of the slaves of True Lord Jesus Christ. I give all my glory to True God and True Jesus Christ. Please remember this. Amen. Thanks
Define decent human being.
The Confederacy, the Nazi's, many thought they were decent people.
*We live by the 10 Commandments* that Moses brought down from
Mt Sinai 3,000 years ago.
*Christian Men* wrote the
U.S. Constitution.
*Christian Abolitionists* established the Republican Party in 1854 to end Slavery. In 1861 Lincoln became the 1st Republican President and ended Slavery.
@@shawnkim8542 - Congratulations, Shawn. I choose not to be a slave to anyone, but my choice is for me, not for you. You can be whoever you want to be. And that is the essence of freedom.
The problem is climate change, Wokism, transgenderism, and the LGBTQI etc movements are just as much a religion as ours is. They are ideologies that formulate our world view. And if they are allowed free voice in the public arena, why not others? Cancelling free speech for some and not others is anti-American.
@Mo Hussain I assume you come from some Islamic background assuming from your name. No, that's not what Allah has commanded. When Allah revealed the Qur'an, He revealed it to be a way of life, not something to be restricted within mosques and houses, that is against Allah's commands. Did Allah's Messenger, peace be upon him restrict Islam to mosques and houses? He did not. Secularism only came to be in the Muslim world, when colonialists invaded it! How ironic.
Then Churches Should Pay Taxes
They are non profit charitable organisations that benefit society and are not taxed.
@@gameratortylerstein5636 They stop benefiting society as soon as they get involved in politics because that isn't a churches job.
churches do pay taxes in Germany
@@gameratortylerstein5636Not sure they are benefiting society, more like they are tearing society apart.
@@gameratortylerstein5636 How do they benefit society?
To declare oneself as a "Christian Taliban" says everything about what the ultimate goal is!
A similar thing also happened in Indonesia where fundamentalists advocated electing a President who implemented Islamic values. The impact of this movement is increasing hatred towards Christians and followers of other religions. This is very bad.
It is bad. Every society you look at that let's religion run politics ends up radical and far right
Jesus said, "Give Cesar what belongs to Cesar and give to God what belongs to God," which clearly shows a separation of church and state.
Not a Christian but thank you I’d shake your hand if I saw you.
Sssshhhh, Trumpers’ brains melt when presented with basic facts.
To be fair prior to Isreal being occupied by the Romans (and others), there was not really a separation between church and state, or at least there was not really supposed to be. So there is a basis for the belief.
And that verse is more so talking about how Jesus wants your faith instead of monetary things. So its not really about separation of church and state.
@jakubjohnson6741 man has always differ from the Bible or its interpretation
"We establish no religion in this country. We command no worship. We mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and state are and must remain separate."
Those words were spoken by Ronald Reagan in 1982.
Same "guy" also asked if there is any hurt caused by mandating school prayer....
Soon it's going to be one world under a anti Christ monster and than they'll see why they should of liked it like it is now a nation under God 😊❤
Why do you hate religion so much? Is it the belief in God or the rules and laws that are attached to religion. I am guessing it's the rules and laws you hate. What were you secularists trying to prove with separation of church and state?
@@teapartyforthedead7032 Are you for real? Or a bot?
@@jeansherwood2428 Answer my question? What are secularists trying to prove by hating on religion?! Because you aren't doing better than religion and that's for God damn sure.
"You hear the term a lot, in evangelical circles, that we are fighting a "culture war".You could very easily replace the word "culture" with "civil"..." - pretty chilling!
If one state in the USA was Hell, it would be Texas.
As a German, a liberal Christian, and a teacher, I'm more and more shocked by what's going on in the US. The lack of critical thinking is astounding. In the whole video, there wasn't anyone giving reasons for their opinions. That is something my students learn in 6th grade. And whenever I hear people saying what they've said in the video I can only think "What does that have to do with you? Why does that concern you personally? And what would Jesus, a man who loved EVERYONE, say about that?"
American evangelical Christians have adopted fascism and theocracy. Its frightening.
And I say that as a left-wing Christian who does not want to live in an American theocracy.
We had a theocracy once in America, under the Calvinist Puritans, and it lead to witch huntings and hangings.
American taliban christians are uneducated and their party leaders want them to stay that way and not challenge the status quo.
As an American, no one cares what you Nazis think.
I’m pretty sure Jesus wouldn’t be in favor of sexualizing children.
Hi everyone, basically the United States is passing through its twilight years: First, the United States democracy is on the decline from a full democracy to a flawed democracy. Second, the debt of the United States is getting bigger so that it is threatened with bankruptcy. Third, US spending is greater than US income. Fourth, the influence of the United States is decreasing in the international world. Fifth, the citizens of the United States are increasingly divided, thank you 🙏😂
When I was a kid we went to church and they talked about God NOT politics. This reminds me of The Handmaids Tale tv series.
Still haven't watched that, is it good?
@@kirk5152 it’s worth watching.
Cliche handmaid's tale reference aside, it is genuinely disturbing.
I always want to assume the best, but I can't help but look at these insane cults of personality around charismatic conservative and "Christian" figures and not see demonic influence in them. It's like these people worship Trump and their megachurch pastor more than Christ Himself.
Omg literally my thoughts!
If your church is ignoring politics then you're being led to the slaughter
It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled.
I used to think people comparing Trump to Hitler but ever since January 6th that idea doesn't sound that crazy anymore.
Since they don't want separation, can we start taxing them now?
*We live by the 10 Commandments* that Moses brought down from
Mt Sinai 3,000 years ago.
*Christian Men* wrote the
U.S. Constitution.
*Christian Abolitionists* established the Republican Party in 1854 to end Slavery. In 1861 Lincoln became the 1st Republican President and ended Slavery.
Tax them into oblivion
Hopefully Bidens change to the IRS can finally make them pay all their taxes.
Let’s tax Scientology or Also nonprofit organization that help the community Not good at all right a Church is a nonprofit organization
Retroactively.
America was founded for the exact reason of freedom of religion and beliefs. Making America a Christian nation in politics is directly contradicting the fundamentals of why people say this is the land of the free. As a new yorker you can have 50 different nationalities living on one single block and THAT is the essence of what america is meant to be. A melting pot of nationalities and ideologies and the freedom to not be persecuted for your (reasonable) beliefs.
Incredibly true paragraph
No one is forcing anyone. However Judeo-Christian Civilization and its values made America possible.
*We live by the 10 Commandments* that Moses brought down from
Mt Sinai 3,000 years ago.
*Christian Men* wrote the
U.S. Constitution.
*Christian Abolitionists* established the Republican Party in 1854 to end Slavery. In 1861 Lincoln became the 1st Republican President and ended Slavery.
the nations that was founded on your so touted "freedom from religion" was the Jacobin French Republic, and look how well that turned out
hint it ended in the geocide of Christians and the mas destruction of church property
@@christopherhillman3551 Christian men slaughtered the natives and stole their land then started buying and selling kidnapped human beings to get rich. Why do people keep ignoring that?
Trump
This church needs to be taxed, it’s NOT separating church and state.
If religions want to meddle in politics, then they need to start being taxed.
As someone who lives in a theocracy,This is a huge mistake.they should stop this immediately.
Believing in a religious state is the worst mistake a nation can make.
Are you from Iran? If yes then we know what is awaiting Americans. They will find out on their own that once religion takes over separating it from state will be almost impossible.
@@pennybarker1596 i am, they are making a huge mistake
Thank you for the warning. Someone else here posted this: “Those who would renegotiate the boundaries between church and state must therefore answer a difficult question: why would we trade a system that has served us so well for one that has served others so poorly?”
― Sandra Day O'Connor (Conservative former US Supreme Court Justice)
@@shivarg120I agree. Thank you for your compassion. I hope the people of Iran can live freely again.
Merci aziam, Iran will be free soon once these religious old men die. May we celebrate on the streets together
The interviewer is really good at asking questions that allow the respondent to say what's actually on their minds. This is quality journalism.
Good observation.
6:14 Its written in Arabic "In Allah we trust"
Agree - but she could shake her head a little less 😀
@@outofthebox9699 Allah means God, Arab Christians use the word Allah too.
@@avi2125 I think it’s a technique used to make the person interviewed feel more comfortable and because of that potentially get more interesting conversations.
Jesus was Palestinian. Dark skinned, dark haired, dark eyed, and tolerant of all people, regardless of who they were. He believed in harboring all people, no matter where they come from. Do those so-called Christians acknowledge that?
Prayer is a fancy term for talking to yourself.
At least believe in an etheric field if you don't believe in God.
Religion doesn't always make people crazy but when it does, as in the case of these people, they go all the way.
Radical and not needed in this world.
It always makes people delusional
Christianity trough the Catholic Church was founded on violence just like Islam. The first crusaded were launched by a man now called Saint Irenaeus in the between the year 150-200 against other Christians who did not fall under the Catholic church. Part of the dead sea scrolls are remains of those Christians that were killed which historians group as Gnostic Christians because nothing survives of any organization if they had one since they did not believe that a orthodoxy was needed to be Christians, they were peaceful and believed in meditating to escape the hell of our physical bodies. Basically the first major thing the catholic church which is the ancestor of all modern christian goups in the west did was to kill off the peaceful Christians.
I'm Christian and I check myself all the time cuz you can fall and religiosity easy. I was raised by Christians and I never really believed in Jesus until I got away from them. Just crazy and fundamental.
And Christian nationalism is mostly about how they really want for everything to be white again
Zealots be zealots.
What upsets me as a Baptist (Australian) is that many of these people identify as Baptists, yet it was Baptists who spoke most strongly against theocracy in the 17th and 18th centuries, and influenced later though less radical thinkers like Locke.
Even in the early 1960s, when I became a Baptist, any links between Church and State, even if it was beneficial to both parties, was treated with suspicion.
It is hard to see how things could go so seriously wrong so quickly.
Christian nationalism is a rapidly growing cancerous abomination that threatens both Church and state.
The problem with Christianity is that just like Islam, it possesses the seeds for radicalism. Human beings seem to be willing to embrace radicalism more often than not and that is why Christianity in general is so dangerous. I don't care which denomination you chose to embrace, you should be mindful of the risks,
Shut the front door, sir. Jesus showed the different personalities when he chose his disciples….all different….and his crazy cousin John the Baptist. The one thing they had in common, they worshipped and followed Jesus. And that is what matters. What would Jesus do? On abortion, sex changes, pedophilia, prostitution, legalizing drugs, homelessness. Black or white. regardless of apologetics. WWJD?
@@michaeljaquish9708 A community can never be fair with Islam as its ruling religion. Do not even think of comparing two opposites....
Everything has its goods and bads, some like Islam does have way more bads cus of the commitment u have to give and the rules u have to enslave urself to.... just Stop in all seriousness comparing Christianity and Islam.
Religion is bad when it can't evolve with the community, Christianity has adapted with the community.. but we can't say the same to Islam.. Islam has not and probably will not for a long time adjust to the 21th century (very VERY old rules are still looked highly upon) and as a friendly reminder their calendar is 600Years behind.......
Sounds like we are the same age. I too, grew up Baptist in the 1960's in Mississippi, USA. So, what do think caused this suspicion you spoke of my friend? I don't recall this happening in my area, but I will say slowly but surly, religion in general is being viewed with a certain skepticism.
Our first pastor was one of the kindest, most knowledgeable and compassionate men I will ever meet. He was well loved, even today many years after his passing. And his replacement was a man who felt we needed to be scared into loving Jesus! He was quite a fear preacher and slowly but surly saw his congregation decline.
What's that saying... "Hate only begets more hate, and love is the only thing that can cure hate." I paraphrase, but, I find this to be true.
God (I'm a Zeus believer) bless each of these right wing Christian leaders with bolts of great energy.
They AREADY have the right to create religious schools. What they WANT is to FORCE their religion on you and your kids. We MUST keep church and state separate!!!! 😮
Whenever I feel depressed about Brexit and the state of British politics, I only need to watch something like this. Then, I feel a huge sense of gratitude for living in a secular, relatively sane country.
I am a slave of the slaves of True Lord Jesus Christ. I give all my glory to True God and True Jesus Christ. Please remember this. Amen. Thanks
SeculR uk is technically a Christian country
@@nps7742 I've attempted to comment the various definitions, but it keeps getting deleted.
You should REALLY look up its definition.
It's quite the opposite of what you're stating. Ijs..
Good day ✌🏻
@@nps7742ell yeah officially but British people are largely nonreligious, and the Church of England/Christianity in the UK is way more reserved than in America
Fleeing to Europe certainly looks more and more appealing. This isn't going to end well.
As a lutheran protestant christian, this is hard to watch...
Orthodox Christian here. These people have no connection to historical Christianity. I see a lot of passion and anger, and very little, if any, humility.
@@katherines.3767 Indeed
As a non believer this is stunning to me...isn't the constitution clear about church and state?
“Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.”
“It’s easier to fool someone than to convince someone they’ve been fooled”
Yupp, like thinking democracy and freedom exists
Not stupid, Intelligent.
Never underestimate the power of stupid reporters who work for government controlled news outlets.
Just like the lgbt community
"We establish no religion in this country. We command no worship. We mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and state are and must remain separate." *Ronald Reagan*
And yet, Reagan was put into office by these same Evangelicals...and every Republican since then has bowed down to them.
“As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion”- John Adams
Then they reached out to the "Moral" Majority and blurred the lines between politics and religion.
Ironic is it not. Epically ironic that Donald Trump, the most immoral of people, who consistently breaks laws, secular and religious - wantonly, the torchbearer for an extremist unchristian like movement. Please, the hypocricy is palpable. Just listen to the hatred filled rhetoric and prejudice these people use in defence of their world views. Talk about common christian principles that all religions hold dear, rather than insignificant differences which separate Americans.
Another good example how politicians can contradict themselves and get away with it.
These zealots are dangerous. If you think what’s going on in Israel is bad, wait until these religions get turned loose on society.
Reporting from someone who knows. Well done. This older US scenario is now playing out in Canada and has made significant inroads, quietly and with great potential for harmful change, despite the Charter and a largely liberal majority.
Begun by George Washington, signed by John Adams and ratified unanimously by a Senate still half-filled with signers of the Constitution, this treaty announced firmly and flatly to the world that “the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”
"The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature: and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history...It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had any interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the inspiration of heaven, any more than those at work upon ships or houses, or labouring in merchandize or agriculture: it will for ever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses..... Unembarrassed by attachments to noble families, hereditary lines and successions, or any considerations of royal blood, even the pious mystery of holy oil had no more influence than that other of holy water: the people universally were too enlightened to be imposed on by artifice; and their leaders, or more properly followers, were men of too much honour to attempt it. Thirteen governments thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favour of the rights of mankind.”
~John Adams, A Defense of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America 1787
“As the government of the United States of America is not founded in any sense on the Christian religion - as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen [Muslims] - and as the said states have never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”
1797 Treaty between the United States and Tripolitania
The Treaty of Tripoli (Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli of Barbary) was signed in 1796. It was the first treaty between the United States and Tripoli (now Libya) to secure commercial shipping rights and protect American ships in the Mediterranean Sea from local Barbary pirates.
It was authored by Joel Barlow, an ardent Jeffersonian republican, and signed in Tripoli on November 4, 1796, and at Algiers (for a third-party witness) on January 3, 1797. It was ratified by the United States Senate unanimously without debate on June 7, 1797, taking effect June 10, 1797, with the signature of President John Adams.
“As the government of the United States of America is not founded in any sense on the Christian religion - as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen [Muslims] - and as the said states have never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”
1797 Treaty between the United States and Tripolitania
The Treaty of Tripoli (Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli of Barbary) was signed in 1796. It was the first treaty between the United States and Tripoli (now Libya) to secure commercial shipping rights and protect American ships in the Mediterranean Sea from local Barbary pirates.
It was authored by Joel Barlow, an ardent Jeffersonian republican, and signed in Tripoli on November 4, 1796, and at Algiers (for a third-party witness) on January 3, 1797. It was ratified by the United States Senate unanimously without debate on June 7, 1797, taking effect June 10, 1797, with the signature of President John Adams.
exactly. the usa was basically created as a secular freemason experiment. the humanist philosophers of the enlightenment of the 18th century, heavily influenced by the protestants, we're INCREDIBLY anti-church, anti-monarchy, anti-religion, anti-tradition. they essentially held proto-marxist views of the abolition of the old power structures of the world and sought to replace it with the "Do as thou wilt" luciferian theology of the freemasons. The more you know!
Your arrogance say, you are Christ8na in name only. For true religious aka spiritual people, need not defend or attack any man’s personal relationship with GOD. The religious that arrived killed, raped and stole. I would be very quiet, if I were you.. @@NSOcarth
I’m a Christian. I’m always amazed when Christians ignore the Bible by trying to make America into Christian Nirvana. It’s been tried by other countries with their religion for centuries. The best example for that that I can think of is Cheri law of the Muslims. America is advanced citizenship. Everyone can worship or not worship as they deem fit. You can only give them the good news of Jesus and live out your convictions in a loving way. You can’t force your faith on anyone.
Their is nothing called christains nirvana 😂😂
And hellfire is not the good news.
If you know what it means to willingly choose any religion, then you know everyone has the Freedom not to choose your religion or any other. You can't impose it.
the problem with these people is they think that god will be mad at them unless they impose a christian theocracy upon american society. so they literally think anything short of christian theocracy is an 'attack' on them because god will be mad and punish them for it.
exactly this. democracy and government forced religion cannot co-habitate. that's why they have no issue with donald and his fascist crowd.
@@user-wb4ws2xs9p Yet, you vote against welfare for babies and single mothers ?
Here here
But why r u imposing values like LGBT on others? I think it is a double standard
These people are so adamant about the Second Amendment that they completely glossed over the First Amendment: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion”
This movement is far from majority numbers and your comment is valid. However, if they reach out to the Vatican for support, they will eventually get the Senate and the House and only the Supreme court will be able to check them. I wonder why the supreme court justices are Roman Catholic?
You act as though you understand what 'establishment of religion' means. You do not.
They also haven't read the 2nd amendment and completely ignore the part of their favorite amendment that says, "a _well regulated_ militia..." umm...so ...the 2nd amendment calls for REGULATION. It's clear that the 2nd amendment is talking about the National Guard. These idiot right wingers need to get an education. The 2nd amendment was crafted to give the American people a clear way to fight against these morons. The founders were concerned about coup de tat and formulated the 2nd amendment as a well regulated armed force that could defend the _government_ against idiots like the Oath Keepers. It had nothing whatsoever to do with religion taking over our government. The founders would have been horrified by that idea and about this ignorant group of uneducated fools.
@@mchandler4722 you act like you know that person and can determine what they know about the first amendment, and you do not.
@@mchandler4722 Dude, the so called 'Christian', right-wing nutjobs in this video EXPLICITLY stated that they want to impose their version of religion on everyone else.
It isn't real faith if they're forcing it on people, so what are they trying to achieve?
Bingo
As a European and what is called an evangelical pastor, lecturer, mission director and theologian, I follow what is going on in your country with a combination of both interest and creepiness. You know, there is a German saying which we Germans do well to keep reminding ourselves. It goes "Wehret den Anfängen," and it means "fight back when you see fundamentally wrong things brewing." Brothers and sisters, I think it's high time for that.
Teach Beyond, if Christians sit by idly as parents lose custody of their minor kids for not affirming gender transition surgery, we shouldn't complain when forced into house arrest, like what's happening NOW in several other COMMIE countries!!
We'll take care of our crazy fundamentalists, and you take care of your voracious p I m p s. The brothel industry has made your nation the slave trading hub of Europe, through which the destitute of Eastern Europe are trafficked. Making an industry on the backs of impoverished women, 90% of whom were molested in childhood, is the quintessense of fundamentally wrong. It is - far beyond creepy - absolutely heartbreaking to watch what's happening to Germany. Who's going to teach IN Deutschland? Don't turn your back on German women, and all vulnerable European women: The oldest oppression is taking over, in Germany.
The language our great GOD best hears is silent love. When many hearts silently scream for righteous justice & get ignored, it truly feels like "volcanic activity" brewing inside.
When the good shepherd calls, his flock recognize his voice. Some hear whispers, other's hear defining thunder.
My Cross My GOD
GOD promised Moses he would free his people from bondage and he delivered. There's no reason not to believe our Cross won't deliver on YESHUA CRISTO'S promise.
Funny you should say that when Germany is slipping into totalitarianism. They are anti free speech, anti family, and anti Christianity. When are you going to stand up against that?
@@John2verse5 you have used a lot of words and yet your comment is incomprehensible. What are you trying to say?
I've been a Christian for 45 years - not only is there not a political party that accurately depicts / represents Jesus or the Gospel, there are few if any churches that do, either. What the word "Christian", or the name "Jesus", actually mean is up for debate. I'm not saying Christians should not run for office or be politically motivated, but let's be very careful about imposing our own ethos onto Jesus.
Sir, in your assertion, I would have to agree with you. However, I have to press the point of your interpretation of the Christ, in all due respect.
Yes, neither party truly represents the teachings of Jesus Christ. However, the is an ideology that does. Undoubtedly, Jesus was a progressive.
@@nathanbrady8529 Most progressives support killing babies. Did Jesus think that it is okay for mothers to slaughter their babies?
Nathan Brady, if Jesus was a progressive, He wouldn't wear a robe, say,
"Go and sin no more."
-or heal people; He'd wear leather a**-chaps, have a rainbow ponytail, & teach hatred/"cancellation" of those we disagree with!
@@TheBusttheboss isnt he the son of God? The God who is responsible for more abortions than every mortal combined? Maybe it runs in the family 🤷♀️
This is why we have freedom of religion, no one religion can run the government. Separation is necessary due to the evil heart of man.
Man is not inherently evil.
Kids should be taught to be kind a thoughtful to others. This is why you can't leave 5 year old to take care of babies. Some selfish behavior could be viewed as evil and selfish is inherited to take of one's self.
As a committed Christian, I find this report horrifying. The people that are speaking, do not appear to even read God's Word or know what Jesus taught.
In most developed countries hearing voices in your head is considered a disqualifier for public office
So is believing you are something that you are not, also in the head, in the mind, and that qualifies as mental illness. I don't see the mental disseased out of public functions.
It's time to stop giving political churches tax exemptions.
Agree 100%. If they’re going to engage in general political discourse in this country, let them pay their price of admission just like everyone else. A politically active religious organization or sect should not be entitled to 503(c) tax exempt status, period.
@@trenauldo the people who wrote that law?
No religious belief should get any kind of government exception of any kind. The first amendment spells it out but ignorant Anti-Americans only know the end of a sentence in the second and don't even know how many Amendments there are.
I guess you'll have to start with all the predominantly black churches that have been political for decades now.
@@michaelroyalspencer I feel like the difference being the black churches have always fought for an expansion of rights both civil and human to more people historically. They advocate for freedom.
While these other churches are advocating for a reduction of freedom for some and an expansion of freedom for only themselves. For example they advocate for the right for businesses to discriminate against people on a religious basis. Back in the 1960s that often included racial discrimination as well as orientation and religion. Today so far it is only orientation and reproductive health.
Black churches have historically advocated for anti discrimination laws so that everyone can expect to be treated the same regardless.
In this respect I feel that Christian nationalists are fundamentally anti constitutionalists. Where as Black churches have historically been proponents of constitutional rights.
Federalists battled for strong government as religious nationalists make an onslaught for one religion in America; the original independent nation simply was in shambles when the British left after defeat. Who would govern us? how would we survive without the economy of an empire? How would states unite in the future under a balanced authority?
Nationalists must remember that the founders were wary of England's example of religious authority and "church above monarchy" rule within the most powerful empire of the time. And that the individual freedoms of the people are what made America the most liberated, the most represented, and the most civil in that period of history.
Civility, liberty, and civic duty were the most empowering qualities of the antiquated American government in post-revolution, reflected in them by the people themselves. How freedoms survive is by the legacy of the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the sovereignty of all citizens.
Absolutely frightening and must be stopped.
“Whenever governments adopt a moral tone - as opposed to an ethical one - you know something is wrong.”
― John Ralston Saul
When government adopts an immoral tone - would that also be an indication that something is wrong?
I guess we need the morality police here, because that's working out so well in Iran. The Extreme Court thinks they can legislate morality from the bench... how's that working out?
What exactly does this mean? Looking it up I see it says morals are guiding principles and ethics are specific rules, surely all forms of government, politics and ideology encompass both? What makes moral tones worse? Can you explain please thanks
@@phiksit We do have a morality police. Its called cancel culture.
And vise versa!
As an American, this is utterly terrifying. As a parent, it's infuriating. These wack jobs need to homeschool or send their kids to private religious schools! What is happening?! It's just so scary....
As a Pennsylvanian...thank goodness that enough of us have enough sense to shut Mastriano down!
Thanks for voting Fetterman 💙💙💙
So there are more than two genders? Funny because I don't remember a third person when my wife and I made a baby. Murdering babies in the womb is ok with you? So the morality of killing a living breathing feeling human with his or her own DNA is dependent on its location? Men can become women? Sounds like magical thinking. You can believe in magic if you want to but leave me out of your irrational superstitions. You pride yourself in a false sense of moral superiority but objectively speaking your positions are dumb, ignorant, and evil.
We all know PA is stupid. You don't complain about the indoctrination of children in schools by the LBTQ pushing teachers.
As a former child who had to grow up under people like that, what those kids really need is to be rescued from their genetic material providers... people like that do not deserve the title of parents.
@@MatthewSchellenberg cope and seethe, you utter vermin.
Fear sells .Follow the money.
The on going end of the separation of church and state leading to the end of democracy and the constitution.
I'm a devout Christian and I'm very troubled by what people are doing in the name of Christianity. Are we headed back to the dark ages?
you are sleeping. Darkness are rising , and you just thing about your self. Such a garbage
We are in states controlled by Southern Baptists.
Unfortunately, as long as religious beliefs based on ancient mythological stories remain in society, we will not be able to leave the dark ages.
@@JbombTheGreat Just because they're mythology to you does not mean they're not historical fact. Consider how many things known to be scientific certainties have been revealed to be wrong. Are those myths also? Truth always prevails unless it's suppressed.
@@brainstem2023 Many stories in the bible lack any historical evidence. The Jews enslaved in Egypt, Noah's Ark, a worldwide flood, the resurrection of a savior, etc, lack evidence. Not only that, but research has revealed that many of the stories in the bible are recycled tales from even older civilizations.
One notable example is from the Epic of Gilgamesh, which pre-dates the writing of the bible by nearly 1000 years. It contains a story extremally similar to Noah's Ark and the great flood, only with small details differing here and there from the biblical version.
The idea a savior in the form of god's son has also been used in numerous ancient cultures long before Christianity or any other modern segmented religion adapted the tale.
It's important to realize that these stories have nothing to do with science. A lack of science is actually what allowed these stories to spread and flourish thousands of years ago.
Coming from The North of Ireland where politics and religion go hand in hand, let me tell you in no uncertain terms ..... they should NEVER mix
aye aye sir
And yet communism, extremist feminism and social justice are religions too, and that's one of the reasons why the democrats are even worse.
I've seen it first hand in Omagh. There's no place for religion in schools or politics in religion.
was'nt religion always a red herring in northern ireland - if you are catholic, you were probably irish by birth - if you were protestant, you were british by birth and recognized the monarchy as both your govt leader as well as leader of your church
is'nt it interesting that only 100 years after ireland became independent, they are now being controlled by the eu ?
ireland may call itself a member state - but you are NOT a country if someone else controls your borders/money/immigration
@@cstuartdc I think you misunderstood my reply.
My family fought for the Irish Republic in 1918 for its independence - for hundreds of years, Ireland was under british occupation ( or colonialization, if you prefer)
My ancestors are probably turning in their grave thinking that the independence that was so hard to gain was so easily handed over to a cabal of bureacrats that now control their border.
I never once advocated for a king.
What is so wrong about wanting a free homeland unfettered by foreign dominion ?
Do you want Britain to again control Ireland, India, Jamaica, Hong Kong, Kenya, Sudan, Lesotho, Botswana, Northern Somalia, Egypt, Eastern Ghana, Gambia, Niger, etc ?
Remember that the british controlled the slave trade many years ago - you cant say they did it for the benefit of the natives. You seem to argue that an independent country is a bad thing.
Even England has its fill of the EU and left the 'loose confederacy' that you love.
Funny choice of words you had there - In the US, the word confederacy denotes slavery.
It is funny you call that a Trumpian vision - but Merkel controlled the EU with an iron fist for many years.
Watching this brings up a memory of when we visited our US family in Tennessee in the early 90's. Yes we had been to church for X-mas and Easter, but what we were about to witness was instrumental in my brother and I to completely stay out of religion. It was easter and our US family being Baptist, it felt like we had to go to church every second day. All of a sudden a whole bunch of people stood up, crying and lifting their hands up and shouting names.... my brother and I looked at each other in bizzareness and started giggling really loud. We thought they were playing but one look from my aunt, we knew this was serious. That made us more laughing so our Mom escorted us out and told us off..... we were not allowed back in. Ever.
Iceland 🇮🇸 outlawed Televangelists, & we should, too!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”
― Carl Sagan
Bamboozle is such a top notch word!
Sagan's "Humility" couldn't be more relevant, and neither could TDHW. We are now literally living in the situation that he predicted. Science, logic, unity, and Reflection have all succumbed to egos, narcissism, selfishness, greed, and polarization of hatred.
🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨
JESUS CHRIST NEVER BAMBOOZLED ANY ONE GOD GAVE US A FREE WILL TO MAKE THE CHOICE TO ACCEPT HIM OR THIS SINFUL WORLD. AMEN.
@@mariettatrapani291 you seem a bit bamboozled
@@baggyandbarp lol
The irony is that the pilgrims and a lot of these people's ancestors fled Europe due to religious persecution only for their descendants to be just as bad if not worse than their oppressors several hundred years later
Tbh the puritans were not saints as much as they wish it upon themselves. No wonder they're so self centered
Well, yes, the Puritans who arrived in America did escape England because of religious intolerance. However, the Puritans' own religious views were also highly intolerant of non-Puritans. They wanted to create a theocracy, a godly society based solely on Puritan ideas, one in which non-Puritans would be second-class citizens. The fact that they didn't get to do that in England is what they considered intolerance and made them leave for America. This is a theme one can still see in the language of the religious right in the US: when the religious don't get to discriminate people according to their faith, they call that persecution.
the abused becomes the abusers
Fled Persecution by the Monarchs manipulating religion with their Puppet Fake-Clerics
History of Christian factionalism: I can't believe I'm being forced to follow that religion when clearly it's my religion eveyone should be forced to follow.
Actually similar to a modern secular view: I demand that I be allowed to speak "my truth" even it's offensive; and I demand that you don't speak "your truth" if it is offensive.
Tax all churches
At the *very* least, tax these churches that hold political rallies from the "pulpit."
Their exemptions are just...ridiculous.
This is absolute madness. I fear the worst for the future of the US as a nation.
what is the alternative? adopting your preferences instead?
Instead of playing dumb video games and watching dumb sports study the Bible you will learn something.
@@Jesusismykin Thank you for your random comment, I'm sure if enough people read it, it may be applicable to someone.
@@LovelyJesus07 it depends upon the measure. if their goal is to murder babies and groom your kids, then they would probably disagree.
As an American, i sadly agree w u! This country is in a fast downward spiral!
Not Christian or American, but I am Palestinian so Christianity is very important to me as a part of my heritage and culturally. I don't understand how politicising faith was ever going to accomplish anything at all. Especially when the very First Amendment emphasises the right to Freedom of Belief...
I am a Christian and Amrican, but not from the USA. And you are totally right. These are troublesome times. God bless you and your beautiful country. The land were Jesus walked. ♥
*If you have ears, hear*
Religion is fake...Yeshua is the 10 commandments, whom is the Jew's eternal King or God: and whom became flesh to make himself an example for the Jews as he had promised them;
So Obey the 10 commandments and Apply love to your lifestyle; exit religion, for the very first laws is to have no other gods before him, and it is written that no man can serve two masters;
Sell your unnecessary possessions and help the fatherless, the widows, the poor, etc.
*Again*
Love yourself and your fellow brothers and sisters; if you have an extra t-shirt, give it to him that have none; likewise if you have 2 pair of shoes, give one pair to him that have none...*and no vaccine*
....again, If you have ears, hear....
@@mrbadway1575 you people don't respect anyone but think people should respect you ..
Why not a Christian? Jesus loves you an died for your sins. His grace is free to receive no works that you need.
@@Rakotino I don't see anything in the original comment that invited this kind of discussion. Is it so difficult to accept that not everyone shares your beliefs or is interested in practicing your religion?
The fact that we don’t tax churches in 2024 is in and of itself astounding.
It is not.
That's one of the first things that congress should address after the Democrats win the 2024 election.
boy oh boy the world is in big big trouble 😢 i lived in the US for years and dam am i happy i am
not there anymore, what happened to this beautiful open country 🤦♂️
I see no religion here. This is all about power.
Real Christians don't act like extreme right wing fundamentalist dictators.
and jesus
Well, organized religion always has the power aspect. Influencing what people believe - it hardly gets more powerful than that. Historically, to assimilate conquered populations, there's a repeating blueprint: destroy or displace old relics, myths, traditions, forbid or weaken the old Gods, install the new superstar.
Religion was always a political movement.
@@public.public why is your version of christianity real and theirs is fake? Taking all your beliefs from interpretations of a very old book is your religion. Their interpretations are different to yours.
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. -Well known saying
YES .SO TRUE
Those who study history are doomed to watch other people repeat it.
Indeed, just look at Pompeii.
Research what German govt nazi regime did to the "church" and yep just about all them pastors and congregations were: silent! (edit: sorry for capital n I didn't mean to. I refuse to capitalize evil things.)
So them being silent meant they agreed with it!
When oppressors lose power they freak out.
At 15:30 this woman actually calls what our Forefathers told us in the Constitution as "asinine".
As someone who was raised Christian and still is, I cant help but feel sorry for these people. They are so deeply misguided by preachers and politicians that are twisting the Bible and turning it into something that should not be: A political agenda. I try not to mix my beliefs with politics, and it gets tough at times, but I know there are people that don't believe in what I believe and thats okay!
These people think theres something wrong with that, to the point where they'd commit acts of violence, which I do not think is anywhere in the Bible.
I have friends that are gay, atheist, transgender, advocates for rights that I don't prescribe to, but thats what makes us Americans! The fact we can live together and have separate beliefs and creeds and not push them on others. We can pray to ourselves that someone changes their way of thinking is exactly what we should do, but we dont make that the entirety of who we are as individuals!
I pray the folks involved in this movement somehow change their ways and separate themselves from this, its dangerous and not what God would want for them.
Yeah I’m Christian to but this political stuff is silly. We are called to do everything in love as Christians. I think this is just a western political problem though. Eastern Orthodox countries like Greece, Romania, and Ukraine don’t have problems like this in their politics. And those countries have some of biggest Christian populations in the world. I hope the people in this video focus more on how to conduct themselves like Jesus. Not to say if he was a liberal or conservative to enforce political ideas. The Christians in this video do not care about expressing themselves in love sadly. Just a reminder that this is not Christianity. Jesus is Christianity.
EDIT: this reply section is probably the reply section of all time. Cant wait for it to get +200 posts of people arguing 💀
I didn't even mind to read, it all but**sh*t
I'm glad you're speaking out. But I think most of your Christian members support their ideology. Or ... silence is complicity.
@@polsux979 you are very wrong lol.
Certainly not what I was taught in Sunday School. Certainly not Jesus' teachings because " Jesus loves ALL the children of the world".
Inclusion, charity, helping hand not exclusion, demonizing the poor, and handcuffed hands.
I am terrified for this country! The founding fathers did not want a mixture of religion and politics because of what happened in Europe!
Research the history of the "founding fathers"..... They weren't what we were miseducated into believing....The Puritans were fleeing persecution, but they weren't the only ones making that voyage, nor the ones who ultimately gained control....
Yes, I like it when people look back into history. "The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be, and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun." Ecclesiastes 1:9 When will we ever learn?
@@Narrow-Pather the puritans were hypocrites while ..The Puritans were fleeing persecution to some extent the main reason they left europe was to find a location to practice there faith and impose it others via witch hnts the banning of chrsitmas king philuips war etc
The reason this is an issue right now is because we are in fact growing up and getting rid of our infantile need for Imaginary Friends. Of course going to have people cry and moan and weep because we're telling them their friends are make believe. Sadly is going to take a little bit of time but they're losing one way or the other there's no put in this Genie back in the bottle. This is actually a good sign it's something we have to get through to get to the other side
I am terrified by this country 🙃
How did so much madness be allowed to get a hold in the US?
It’s always been there from the start. It’s just becoming more apparent now.
Their property taxes pays for public schools why? Change this and make it user fees instead. So much more control with options. This includes every town and county . No one has thought of this? C’mon.
Your way of life isn’t under threat. Live your life without bringing religion into government institutions.
Amen separation of church and state but here we are. Lord have mercy!🤔
Christian Taliban haha
Is under threat.
Gay shit is everywhere. Even animals don't do that. You said is your right yet you oppose other beliefs. Using force, media and states. Who defines what we all should believe and accept?
If Qatar is not accepting Gay, you tag them.
So where is the right for all?
@@Jdash127 That what they teach, But the gay people want Qatar to allow them. So where is the separation?
Everybody votes with their beliefs. The only way to prevent someone from trying to make their beliefs law would be to ban them from being able to enter politics, which is illegal as it would constitute the establishment of a single state-sponsored belief, even if that belief is that there is no God.
Atheism is a religion too.
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion”
- First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America
You're right but now the US government is actively opposed to what The Bible teaches. To what God teaches and tries to normalize all sorts of things that The Bible speaks against.
And so what now? What does the faithful pastor do when the US government tells him to deny God's Word and to marry homosexuals? When it tells him to deny God's Word that God created man and woman and trans and gender fluidity is a lie? What does he do then?
"Nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof".
Please include the entire 1st amendment.
"Nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof".
Please include the entire 1st amendment.
@@claudeabraham2347 If your idea of freely exercising your religion is forcing my kids to pray, telling my wife she can't get an abortion, & interfering with my & my doctor's decisions about how to treat my disability, you're not a Christian. You're a Pharisee begging Rome to nail Jesus to a piece of wood.
@@claudeabraham2347 who is preventing Christians from exercising their right to worship. The government only curtails when they wish to infringe on the rights of others like gay people
The recent evangelical movement in the United States has undeniably played a significant role in shaping political landscapes. While it's important to recognize the diversity within this community, some evangelical fundamentalists have indeed been vocal in their influence on policies and political agendas. It's crucial to approach this influence with a nuanced perspective, acknowledging that interpretations of religious texts can vary widely. Critics argue that certain evangelical leaders may selectively emphasize aspects of the Bible that align with their political objectives, potentially leading to a narrow and exclusionary approach to governance. The historical context where political figures like King James may have influenced translations, adds another layer to the complexity of understanding how religious texts are interpreted and applied in contemporary politics. As with any religious or ideological movement, it's essential to engage in open dialogue and promote a diverse range of perspectives to foster a more inclusive and informed political discourse. Balancing religious freedom with the principles of a pluralistic society remains a challenge, and the impact of the evangelical movement on politics continues to be a subject of debate and analysis.
IN THE FIRST AMENDMENT IT SAYS THERE WILL BE NO PARTICULAR RELIGION IN THE CONSTITUTION. *READ IT!* And WHO'S to say all the other creeds DON'T HAVE VALUES?? (WE ALREADY KNOW WHO DOESN'T HAVE ANY VALUES!)💯💙💙💙💙
Half of these people blindly believe what they are told and the other half are grifting the first half - it’s that simple
I think you are blindly believe what the TV tell you,
I bett that you are a climate change lunatic too!
Exactly!
So true
Sadly true
it isn't 50/50. The sheep are always more numerous that Shepards and shearers.
As a Christian and even fiscal conservative, this is embarrassing. We have failed to disciple people in our faith and this is the result. For those hurt by this false doctrine, I am sorry. Our faith is not always represented by those that claim it as their faith.
are you saying a bad/flawed christian isn't a christian? someone who prays to jesus christ as their lord and saviour and asks for forgiveness of their sins is not christian? a russian soldier who is blessed by his priest in the name of jesus christ and then goes and kills civilians in the Ukraine is as much of a christian as a Ukrainian asking their priest to bless them and protect them in the name of jesus christ. a priest or pastor who molests children is as much of a christian as a child praying for years to jesus to protect them from a molesting priest. isn't the entire point of the gospel that if you ask jesus for forgiveness you will be forgiven?
@@cocobunitacobuni8738 Not really. Your intentions when asking for forgiveness must be to change. Many people don't even wish or ask for that, they just keep doing it, without any intention to change, and that my friend must NOT be considered a Christian. They may be think they are, but they are not.
Sorry for My Bad English.
This is the embarrassing bit? lmao
Religion ~ diasese. Simple mathematics.
@@cocobunitacobuni8738 nope just missing core tenets of theology. A distant family member is still a member of a family.
I think you got the title wrong, should say "Christian reprobates"
This was a very eye opening documentary, I feel this country is in trouble, regardless of who gets elected in November.