An (Un)Civil War: The Evangelical Divide | CBS Reports
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2021
- A new episode of CBS Reports' Reverb series reveals that as Christian nationalism attracts followers, traditional pastors fear for their faith and the country. Evangelical Christians are a powerful political force, but an extreme faction has divided the community. In the half-hour documentary, An (Un)Civil War: The Evangelical Divide, we hear from pastors on both sides and ask what this battle means for their faith and the future of American democracy.
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How do you justify not having closed captioning for the hearing impaired on this video? Most of us don't know sign language because we weren't born deaf and because this is the twenty first century and we are more than capable now of having closed captioning on videos like this! I'm not even going to try and watch this and your "scary music" to inspire drama or whatever is ridiculous and making it even harder to understand what's being said. This video is a fail🙄
"Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’"
Only "christians" call Jesus Lord. So these people think they are christians. Sad. These people in the video are those people Jesus prophesied about. Sad deceived people.
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Never trust a pastor who tells you how to vote. Never trust a politician who tells you how to pray.
🙏🏻
I don't want a religious person talking to me about politics and I don't want a politician talking to me about religion.
@@BrianRetro like a big girl tellin me about dietin!
Damn, I want a T-shirt,of that!
@little monster My former pastor said it best about politicians: "Pray for all of them. Trust none of them."
If you are preaching politics from the pulpit your church should not be tax exempt!
Then close down (revoke tax exemption) of all the Black Churches in America.
@@bodyloverz30 hey buddy, your racism’s showing 😱
@@amandashaheen7479 No dear, yours is staring you, through the mirror on the wall.
@@bodyloverz30 Oh my goodness the old I am rubber and you’re glue defense Ha ha ha I didn’t realize I was dealing with a toddler so don’t bother writing back because anything you say it’s just sad. Projection- The Republican way of speaking and denying their own culpability - You don’t even do it well🤣🤡
@@amandashaheen7479 No, your the Woker defense.
This is a prime example of why separation of church and state is so important!
I guess the government doesn't need the tax dollars of believers then :) Since they wish to be separate from us and our beliefs.
@@KG-cm6yv man, take a civics lesson or two. This is such a misunderstanding
The fact that Greg Locke is hugely popular in this country and that millions take him seriously - is a very sad reflection on America.
It is sad. And it could only happen here
You do know that a large swath of government believe men can get pregnant and socialism is a good thing, right? Just because you don't believe in God doesn't mean YOU aren't a member of a cult.
The fact that Biden is president and ANYONE takes him seriously is horrifying. And now we see what all that good ol' Leftist indoctrination has done. We have rich suburban white kids at Ivy League schools, who are fng NAZIS. Great job liberals. College kids who claim to be about "inclusivity" and "stop the hate" and all that, marching in support of terrorism. Yay, groupthink!
Your sad 🎉
@@Champion-jb6uj and you can't spell
*_"Forcing his chapel to move from a chapel, to a circus tent"_*
How appropriate
💯
You beat me to it 🤣
Exactly! If the shoe fits. . .
AND THAT WHERE THEY NEED TO BE THEY ARE CLOWNS
A circus tent 🤔 yeah…..a perfect fit
"Christianity started out in Palestine as a fellowship; it moved to Greece and became a philosophy; it moved to Italy and became an institution; it moved to Europe and became a culture; it came to America and became an enterprise."
~Sam Pascoe
I like that. Thank you for sharing.
@@orenthiadillard8993 Please feel free to spread this. It matters to our country.
They are ASLEEP.
*it moved to Italy/Byzantium and became the religious population control measure of the Roman Empire.
That's all it has been since - who knows whether the 'non orthodox' denominations represent a purer pre Roman polluted faith, but for certain what became the Catholic church in Rome was far too well connected with the Empire to be any coincidence.
Easu's religion
Bravo!
Myself as a fellow Christian I'm watching this video and I'm shaking my head like how can people believe these guys it's sad.
I CANT stress enough how big of a Problem Religion fusing with Politicsis and how amazingly well Telltale Atheist and Some-More-News and Aron Ra covered all this.
Most christians try to avoid the label.christian these days. That you boldly assert yourself is troubling. Especially since from experience christianity is a terrible religion full of losers. A christian told me christians are bad people, no truer words have been spoken
Just more hate spewing and religious garbage
How can people believe in the fictional abrahamic death cult mythology of the bible?
@@satanicmicrochipv5656 because is not fiction it's real
No matter where you stand on the issues, you have to give Adam Yamaguchi credit for honest and respectful journalism.
I give him credit for those BICEPS, too
Yamaguchi is full of hate and you can see it here because of the many occasions he uses the word “radical” to describe the pastor and church members.
You are full of hate. Look in the mirror 🪞
Ahh yes, calling a spade a spade is hateful. @@gerardgarcia7127
@@julieproctor6039 Heathen! Lol
"From a chapel to a circus tent"
Poetic Justice
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F and faith turn some into fanatics, under wrong leader, fiends
I noticed how they are so arrogant and overflowing with ego and pride!! However, Jesus was the absolute opposite. He was humble and didn’t argue and spoke harshly to no one!! And even when Jesus disagreed with someone, He wasn’t condemning!! He was nice and kind in and out of the Pulpit!
Perfect Title for a Perfect “Ring Master”!!….😡👎🏻😡👎🏻😡
Stop HATING evangelicals! What communist Russia did was first they started to fight with evangelicals, making hundreds of films about how dangerous they are and religion itself! and now we have the country we know today DO NOT DO THAT IN AMERICA. The first step to get rid of freedom is to get rid of the church.
The irony of the circus tent is Simpsons level comedy.
This is probably the best comment in the whole common section😂
I swear the US is a reality show for the rest of the world to enjoy . There is a reason why most European countries has voted laws to separate religion and politics .
They should. I limit my friendships, non christians only, no exceptions.
Europe saw it's share of religious violence. Thirty Year War for example claimed 1/3 of Germany population. French Wars of Religion wiped out 1/6 or 1/5 of France population..
I thought our country (the US) was separate in religion and government, but these evangelicals have been chipping away at forcing our country to swallow their corrupt religion and power.
The problem is the military might wielded by whomever the people vote for. Limit education, subvert reality with media (FOX) and find charismatic leaders to convince the undereducated.
The excessive power of religion(s) and religious extremists are one of the reasons why I would never move to the U.S. Here in Europe your faith and religion is purely a private matter that has nothing to do in public life. And a huge majority of us citizens, believers or atheists, want it to be this way; a politician using his religion a/o beliefs on a campaign would be a sure path to losing the election. "Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and to God what belongs to God".
"GOD IS ON OUR SIDE" SAID JIM JONES.
Very well said!
funny you would say that I throw the Cleveland Kool-Aid festival no relation it's a kids festival all for fun!! and you can drink the kool-aid!~
Yes: and so will the False Prophets and the followers of the Son of Perdition, the Antichrist... So, your point is...?
@@michaelclarke6439 ALL religion persecutes truth. It has outlived its relevance, except for the toxicity it always had. It has become all stick and no carrot. Truth be told, nobody ever got the carrot anyway.
Religion is, always has been, and always will be an abusive LIE used to justify abjection, prejudice, bigotry, and atrocity. Our survival instinct's clash with the awareness of self and inevitable death is where the byproduct of a so-called "afterlife" comes from!
@@michaelclarke6439 You just made his point bro lol
He's willing to be "crazy" because it's lucrative!
Ms Nijland: That's easy to say but difficult to prove... and that is the crux of the matter. If you could clearly say "This pastor is merely an opportunist" dealing with a radicalized faith would be easier. You can't prove it... a personal jet and millions of dollars "suggest" your conclusion... but defusing this church is impossible. My "crazy" theory is that the Republicans/Trumpist are making these people their base to continue their behavior. Christian nationalism... which resembles fascism... If this voter block can overcome those of us who are more secular... we're going to be a fascist regime. It will collapse but at the cost of millions of lives. You can't attack faith in our society... accept Islam.
@@francisdavis1271 " If this voter block can overcome those of us who are more secular"
Thankfully the voter block you speak of represents a much smaller slice of the overall population than required.
The problem is that they are just populous enough for the GOP to push hard to win them over, and in the process they bring to their side less religious but more unbalanced elements of the kind described as white supremacist and many other such things.
God is the divider in chief. Religion is evil
Money money money!
I wouldn’t mind looking crazy if I made their money!
@@francisdavis1271 "accept Islam"
I feel like it's unfathomable idea to these people that some people do not believe in their "god". I'm Buddhist and the amount of times I've people quote bible verses at me like that's supposed to mean something to me is astounding.
Watching Locke’s “sermons” all I can think of now is:
🎶 “Look in my eyes, what do you see? The cult of personality…”
I could NOT have put at any better, because Living Color already did!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
If they preach politics, they need to pay taxes.
Why?
@Drew it's more accurate to say when you're talkinG church and state issues, politics is one thing but it's partisan politics is verboten. It's a two-way street. It's as much as saying we don't want the church messing with government partisans and the church does not want the government messing in its business. Until a crime is committed by a church then it does become governmental business. crime trumps separation as for example when money is obtained by fraudulent means or in the case of child sexual abuse or other abuse of members. Then people have the right to get the protection of law enforcement.
Addendum also when Church money is not used exclusively for church purposes, then government does have the right to tax it.
@@drewhubbard9214 I’m a Christ following Christian and agree with this.. if you are going to use your organization to rally votes and bend towards a political party then it’s time to pay taxes..
@@annefischer1433 Thanks for explaining. I wanted us to give breath to at least giving that some brief thought, although I would say that talking about things such as abortion from the pulpit could eventually be used against the church, so caution must be given to the old and dangerous slippery slope. I'd say if principal is preached, then one can focus on that rather than talking politics directly. Seems reasonable to me anyway.
Thanks Ann! 🙂
evangelicals seem to have run with the “forgiven for your sins” and totally abandoned “love thy neighbor”
Well they have completely forgotten the words Jesus said when he first started his ministry, according to Matthew, namely, repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is near. They think that believing in Jesus is enough, but Jesus told them to repent, and he will deny knowing them.
Yeah they forgive pedos and cold blooded murderers. God won't forgive any of them they will go to the hot place.
Totally abandoned 'love thy neighbor"? Not sure how you define the word 'totally' but as a group these evangelicals are always in the top for supporting helps. Liberals as a group tend to be at the bottom. So no, they did not totally abandon 'love thy neighbor'.
@@coloradodutch7480 tossing your change I. the Ronald McDonald House charity slot doesn’t count
Neither does “SOULS FOR SALE” missionary work
@@coloradodutch7480 oh please, what planet are you living on? Christians only help out when they can do it through their church so they can shove Jesus down people's throats while they offer them a meal.
Good God. I am a 71 yr old widower, father of three, grandfather of eight, 2 Vietnam tours USMC. I am now ashamed to identify as American.
I'm proud of you, Sir, for your ability to reflect. And I'm sorry for your losses.
I've been a Christian now for 40 years and I'm embarrassed to say I'm a Republican.
This doesn't mean I'm pro-Democrat, I'm not, it's just that the Republican party right now is THAT bad.
Thomas Paine, an influential founding father, on religion:
“I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church.All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.”
“Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is no more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifying to man, more repugnant to reason, and more contradictory to itself than this thing called Christianity. Too absurd for belief, too impossible to convince, and too inconsistent for practice, it renders the heart torpid or produces only atheists or fanatics. As an engine of power, it serves the purpose of despotism, and as a means of wealth, the avarice of priests, but so far as respects the good of man in general it leads to nothing here or hereafter.”
If America was founded on Christianity, we sure missed the mark.
Ironically it most definitely wasn't.
I'm not even American and yet I'm pretty sure they teeach the basic church/govmt separation outlined in the constitution by the founding fathers..... in schools no less.
But then these idiots clearly skipped school more often than not.
You don't know your history
Perhaps it’s time to reassess what Christianity means to you.
I agree the US was designed to be secular, but slavery was definitely inline with scripture.
@@mnomadvfx actually, several of the first colonies were founded on a religious basis, even on specific denominations. It was the Enlightenment-based Revolutionists who promoted freedom of religion which grew into the separation of Church and State.
Religious groups that mesh their religious beliefs with politics should pay taxes. Full stop! That includes evangelical Christian pastors & Catholic churches, & every other religious groups that the public supports.
What do you mean by “politics?” “Religious” beliefs impact every part of a person’s life, and are inherently communal in their nature.
The distinction between “religion” and “politics” is unique to the post-Enlightenment world.
Most of them are cults with very mentally ill people. And they make a whole lot more money than anybody else. 🙄
@@justicebjorke2790 yeah the modern world we live in. Go larp somewhere else
The Baha’i Faith doesn’t get involved in partisan politics. And we have no clergy, so no individual earning a salary. I think we’re the only exception.
Yep!
"God is on OUR side!" At that point you know you are dealing with lunatics.
I CANT stress enough how big of a Problem
Religion fusing with Politics is and how amazingly well Telltale Atheist
and Some More News and Aron Ra coved all this.
Telltale especially has dozens of Videos of what is now dubbed 'Trumpism'
aka 'The fusion of religion, c-theorys and the republicans-in-specific'.
I'm almost ashamed to say I was raised a christian. If it wasn't for my mom showing the love of Christ I'd be an atheist.
3:27
"....From a chapel to a circus tent."
That metaphor is too perfect.
I have to remind myself that he is not a liberal atheist comedian trying to make conservative Christians look bad and that he’s not satire.
Complete with clowns and ringmaster.
Perfect
**. SPEWING POISON FROM THE PULPIT!!!!! THIS IS AN ABOMINATION!!!! EVERY AMERICAN NEEDS TO SEE THIS SHOW!!!!!! WE ARE HEADED THE WAY,, OF, GERMANY IN THE 1940S!!!!! TOO MUCH HYSTERICAL BS,,, BEING PUMPED INTO THE GULLIBLE ONES!!! THIS IS POISON!!!!**
@@jean-marcbrand1093 CLASSIC!!!!
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."
~Blaise Pascal
Truer words were never spoken.
@Eremias Ranwolf Their hearts were in the right place.
An extremely well paid conviction,
His god is $$$$$
And nothing else.
When you have people so thoroughly convinced that they are carrying out the word of God, they are at their most vulnerable point to being swayed to carrying out the most nonsensical views and the most manipulative deceptions.
When you have people so thoroughly convinced that they are carrying out the will of God, they are at their most vulnerable point to being swayed to carrying out the most vicious acts of cruelty and blatantly ungodly actions.
When you have people so thoroughly convinced that they are carrying out the way of God, they are at their most vulnerable point to being swayed to carrying out their word, their will, and their way, and ultimately using God as an avatar for their own desires, their own beliefs, and their own values.
When you have people so thoroughly convinced that they are close enough to God, they are at their most vulnerable to thinking as though they themselves are God. After all, many of these American evangelical Christians even believe that Satan, the most evil being in the universe, was once the grandest being in the universe after only God Himself, until his hubris got to him and he lost himself and lost his way in the process of his fall from glory.
When you have people so thoroughly convinced that they are being godly, you might only find that they have embraced pure idolatry.
@Eremias Ranwolf Pol Pot was a religious extremist that started his own cult by combining Buddhism with Marxist-Leninism.
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
All Pastor Locke's anger, excuse me, I mean "passion", has made him a mountain of money. Never forget these pastors, get incredibly rich peddling their message.
A circus tent for this freak show is extremely fitting!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️😂😂😭😭
“And there’s a lot of hate” said by I’m sure, all the clans men at the meetings he attends.
Thought the same thing
Let’s go Brandon!
Same here, 🤣it’s truly a circus freak show!
THEE only thought in my head when I saw that. 😀😀😀😀😀
Greg locke should start paying taxes if he wants to preach politics.
He is more hook on politics then gods word
Yeah for real
Amen sista!
The sad part is he has idiots believing him.
Christians are allowed to express their opinions on politics. Cope and seethe
I've actually read and heard that their were people in this Christian nationalist movement asking God in prayer for permission to hurt people that didn't agree w their beliefs.. This really scared me. I wish we could all just get along.
Continue and dont stop,
as Telltale Atheist has a whole channel about this here. Many high-qaulitycoverage
about the Church.
Same for the channel Belief It Or Not.
This is way beyond getting along. Many evangelical christian nationalists are deadly serious about returning to a way of governing when only white, male, christian land-owners have the rights of citizenship. Some have stated exactly this on other comment threads I have participated in. This is the unspoken crux of the issues behind the Jan. 6 hearings. Read the book "Hitler" by Ian Kershaw. It shows better than any of the many books on the subject how the social and political changes that brought Hitler to power came about. It is way beyond scary.
But is it True that They prayed This? i see no Evidence for that.
@@slevinchannel7589 - Telltale is a Bigoted Hypocrite, and Atheists Call for Violence all the T9me. Also, "The Church" does not Exist . Not All Christians belong to the same Church.
They are the Christian Taliban basically.
Great and painfully accurate depiction of very dangerous metamorphosis of Evangelical Christianity in thy USA.
The unfortunate part about preachers like Greg locke is they have an us vs them mentality and this is not the Kingdom of God.
I left a Southern Baptist church because they preached fear, hate, conspiracies. It was in the early 1980's. I was in Pottowattomy county in Oklahoma. I was in middle school and had learned about the Nazis. I saw a parallel to those 2 groups and wanted nothing to do with it. When my class mates found out why I left that church, they actually stopped bullying me. Strange to me. I really don't get them. A guy I was friends with tolled me he joined the K.K.K.. I tolled him what they did historically, and he was shocked. I don't get how ignorant they could be. I still don't.
@@angelataylor5241 The fact that they stopped bullying you is evidence that at least you got through to them, even if just for a moment.
@@mnomadvfx didn't think of that. Maybe I did, to some degree. I hope it was enough to free them from the cult.
What's the difference? Religion has always divided people. God (daddy) loves me, not you. Only the weak-minded believe.
@Salt&Light Do you not see the irony in your comment? You write that God loves everyone and then write "But not all are children of God" If your God loves everyone then they are (apparently) children of God, the good and the bad.
Man as someone who grew up as a southern baptist and is currently unaffiliated, things will never get better in this country while these bigoted lunatics are around. It’s like watching a movie knowing what’s about to happen to all of the characters and they all just walk right into the danger anyway.
I am as well, and I agree. When you're in that space, it's like you're brainwashed. You start preforming all this mental hoop jumping and backflips to excuse a situation you KNOW deep down isn't right. Ever notice how everything that jeopardizes the delusion is dubbed as a "sin"? Because if you only knew a few truths, everything would fall apart.
Is killing babies and castrating children for the sexual enjoyment of deviants morally right to you? A depraved government and a depraved populace empower people like this pastor.
Guys like Greg Locke are one of the reasons I have left Christianity and the church behind.
It's fascinating how Locke is two different people in an interview and on the stage. Decide for yourself what he's up to.
I'm very impressed by the interviewer. He gave each speaker a chance to explain his point of view.
Something that is not done often anymore these days.
Reporter vs Commentator.. which is a woefully unbalanced ratio currently.
they ain’t stand a chance lmao
Anti Trump=Sane
The religious fanatics all four of them that you speak of get plenty of opportunity to tell their point of view. They get more opportunity to play to explain point of view then anybody else in the world yet they cry get their voices are being taken away from America or the world or whatever the heck.SoReligious Christians should stop voting for racist like Donald Trump it just makes me not want to be a Christian even more. How embarrassing for you Christian people to put somebody like that as your leader and still just don't get it.
I left that subculture in the late seventies, partly because of the growing influence of Jerry Falwell and his ilk and their conflation of religion and right wing politics. I now describe myself as a recovering evangelical, 43 years sober.
@Hobbit Girl Faith is for those that lack experience youngling. I dont waste my time with "faith"
@Hobbit Girl Faith is by definition irrational. What you call scripture is a collection of folklore, fantasy, and forgery. Nothing to see here, move along.
@@gothboschincarnate3931 And yet you wasted your time judging just like those hypocritical evangelicals. I am a csa survivor and I wonder who you are to tell anyone where their wisdom should come from if it heals them. I would be dead if not for my faith because people are so often animals to those they dont understand, atheists and hypocrites alike can be equally hurtful. What good is your "experience" to me if you use it to judge me the way these hypocrites use morality to judge people? It's all the same pride hungry behavior. If you really want to be above it all then act like it, at the end of the day you'll find that love and reconciliation are always the only right way whether you're a christian or a flaming atheist queen. Some people do need faith to realize this, I dont know why that's a problem for you but that's a problem for you not for me, my faith sustains me.
Well put
Greg Locke was in foster care and I felt strongly that he might be from a background like that, you can see he feels frustrated and probably felt unloved and unwanted so when I heard him say he was in foster care, I thought, it all makes sense about his anger and his need to have attention. But I wish he would get help for that and stop causing division and hatred from his pulpit.
That man manages to say SO MANY WORDS but say nothing coherent, of value or substance. Truly an impressive skill.
Locke: “...They like what I say, I’m saying what they feel, I’m scratching their itch...” 22:21 of this video
Apostle Paul: “For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.” 2 Timothy 4:3
Amen.
Clearly this Bible quote doesn't fit their narrative, so they just disregard it.
As soon as he said that my neck snapped
He told on himself
@@rcutiva23 self report
Wow great scripture... Perfect 😇🙏🏽
Here in Australia, we can have six pubs and one church in a small town, America has six churches to one pub, Australians get the social interaction from pubs and Americans get it from churches, Australia we buy a beer and drink and talk to mates, America gives money to the church for a bigger jet that the one the preacher already has. American churches hate when you don't conform with them, Australia doesn't care which pub you go to as long as you have a good time.
The churches you see on TV vs the actual churches in America are not the same.
Nah! Lots of Americans drink beer. Just these evil Puritans hand their money to evangelicals. They pray to antiquity's super heroes.
In my city in America there's an equal amount of bars and churches lmao
Thank you God for saving me from the Evangelical CULT movement.
Thank you CBS for covering this story. I learned some things from your report.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
~Lucius Annaeus Seneca
I was once involved with the Religious Evangelical movement. So glad I saw the light and got out. They are clueless about the LOVE that God is about. They're legalistic and judgemental.
I am too Mr. Pearson.🙉. I hope you have a great day. 🎭🕊
I am very glad you got out as well.
I concur with u.
Congrats on getting out of the cult you were in. That takes strength
Try a reformed church
These people are so dangerous and scary! There is no peace in their beliefs!😲
As a Catholic, I can not imagine going to church and hearing this type of hatred spewing from the mouth of my priest ..it would be time to find a new church.
tho I commend you the underlying problem will stay...despite your integrity and honesty and if this continues unopposed it ll eventually reach a critical mass and things like Jan 6th happen
But you’re okay with a church that has abused children the world over , that basically pray to a papal authority and are completely fine with hiding they’re actions. And using the congregations money to do it all ( it might be time to start looking ) .
@@barryhollon468 I’m not okay with it, as I’m not okay with child abuse in Boy Scouts , fundamentalism and the many other areas and institutions it occurs. I do believe that the Church has done a good job of addressing the issues which caused the problem, although there is definitely more work to be done and we must always be vigilant. If everyone who was disgusted and distressed by these issues left the Church, how would anything ever get done?
It’s important for us inside the Church to work towards a better future. Not leave and try to find better pastures.
@@annmariebymorning so then if I supported and funded . That’s what you do by your tithes. A group or organization rife with pedophiles and nuns who pierce little native Americans childrens tongues with needles for speaking they’re own language my participation would make me a part of the problem not part of a cure. For Gods sake don’t try and turn a filthy cesspool into a grotto just find or form your own grotto . They are the devils agents ( the Vatican )
The RCC has shed more blood than any other denomination in its history.
Soooo since they can't keep politics and church separate then why not start taxing the church!
I agree. And they can use how much charity the church does in the community, to determine how much they’re taxed.
@@donnamurphy8551 yessssssss !
Brilliant!!!!
Oooooooo! That would shut them up with the quickness!
@@andrepaige9669 Then people will be able to see exactly how much Joel Osteen contributes, because he will have to declare it on his taxes. I have a feeling he doesn't give anywhere near as much as he tries to portray.
I like his very last statement, where he basically says 'yeah I may be absolutely crazy, but at least I believe it'
I have tremendous respect to the Evangelical Christians standing up to this mad Christian nationalism 🙏🙏
If churches want to get involved in politics, take away their tax exceptions. They'll more than likely shut up real quick.
second. i do, however see that going poorly.
I doubt it. If exemptions were revoked, churches would have nothing to lose any more. They'd say whatever they want.
@@claudeabraham2347 they already do. Hence why you take away the tax exemption
@@mpls1982 no they don't. Our church never discusses anything political. Also recall that a preacher has 1st amendment rights same as anyone. Church funds cannot be used to politicize else exemption gets lifted.
If their leader won't pay taxes..
What makes you think these even dumber minions will?
The rundown on Pasta Locke:
he put his wife through so much emotional and mental abuse she ended up in an institution;
he preaches against divorce and adultery but had an affair with his wife's best friend who was also a church member and church employee, he and his mistress divorced their spouses and married each other;
he ranted against pandemic restrictions, refused to implement guidelines in his church and demanded members keep coming and maintain donations even if shutdowns had them broke;
he protested against masks, said they were useless and oppressive and threatened to throw out anyone who turned up wearing one but posted himself wearing Trump or MAGA masks;
he threatened to kick a Dunkin' Donuts employee in the teeth for asking him to wear a mask in the restaurant as per restaurant policy then boasted about it on social media;
he pushed the "leftist ch*ld abuse/trafficking" conspiracy theories but hired a convicted ch*ld rap*st as Youth Leader in the church;
he has submitted members to verbal abuse, insults and embarrassment;
he has refused to allow examination of church finances and attacks members who question why the church is still in a tent long after members raised enough$ for a permanent building;
he is known to be a past and allegedly current user and abuser of illegal and legal drugs and alcohol;
he has been alleged by current and past members to have made unwanted and improper physical and verbal s*xual advances to both male and female members;
he has been alleged by past and current members to have been seen frequenting the services of pr0stitutes including a crossdresser/trans.
ln other words he's a run of the mill evangelical leader
Exactly my experiences !
locke is an absolutely corrupt pos
A sinner like you and me. I don’t know him from Adam but doesn’t make Christ and the Gospel he brought less valuable
@@cjwhite2631 Isn't that how it goes, at least for a lot of men in positions of authority? Avoid any accountability as long as you "give it to Jesus"?
Matthew 18:6
Our God didn't create religion and politics, Man created religion and politics. We should only follow God and not Man
I always find it ironic when religious people talk about how they're not "sheep", when apparently Jesus referred to himself as a shepherd.
Thats why the founding father's of this country separated RELOGION & GOVERNMENT
Is it really separated? Research further my friend.
Religion and politics go together like guns and alcohol
Ok 👍 let's start paying for religon tax then like back in the old world
@@leasagowers2293 it's in the first amendment of the constitution
@@foggyozarkg7396 but no one seems to care about. From our european perspective the USA look like a disturbingly fundamentalistic country and you have to mix religion into politics to succed. No way there would ever be a jewish, buddhist or atheist senator, gouverneur or president. .
And that’s why people are leaving the church
That and because a lot of folks are actually questioning the claims of their religions. Many of us are realizing that it’s harmful, Iron Age mythology.
AMEN
@@guthrie_the_wizard When I finally asked "What did Noah feed to the lions on the Ark?" I had to let my religion go. I couldn't even keep it on a personal level.
@@GailColeman Not to mention the biological parasites that require hosts to reproduce.
@@GailColeman Same!!!!!!
Proclaiming the gospel of America is the new thing in church.
Telltale Atheist and Aron Ra coved all this.
Hail Jesus
I grew up with these people. Twenty years of abuse, homelessness, starvation, and mental torture. Ten years of recovery, and I can finally almost breathe free in my own skin. I still can't watch a horror movie. I still face the front door in restaurants. I've seen pure evil in my life, and it came from the very people who offerered salvation. Your fealty and passivity, your politeness and manners buys you nothing. They will destroy your childhood innocence from within. This modern movement of fundamentalism is truly the forked tongue the Bible warned about.
@Miskeen Christian conservatives.
Separate from religion and become spiritual...you know the way Jesus really wants us to be
Lmao
Always remember that organised religion call their leaders pastors. This is the Spanish word for shepherd. The religious fanatics allege that they protect their flock from predators. Guess what happens to sheep? They get fleeced and butchered by the shepherds for the shepherds benefit. Don't be a sheep.
The major pillor is the seperation of church and state. This must be defended to the death. Failure to do so will result in toxic sectarian conflict and toxic theocracies.
Ireland had for centuries suffered horribly when people mixed warfare and statehood with religion. Northern Ireland is now only coming out of the centuries of nightmare sectarian conflict and violence basically due to religion.
All religious practice should be private and completely divorced from national discourse and conduct of temporal affairs.
I invite you to study about Islam
When Greg Locke said he knows that he’s scratching the itch of those who come to see him, since they all agree, I thought of this scripture:
“For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.”
2 Timothy 4:3-4
Seems about right. This Christian Nationalism movement is deeply concerning and does not at all represent Christ.
I was thinking the same thing. He accidentally tipped his hand in that moment.
Amen
Thank You for sharing that scripture. It sure rings true.
Spot on!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Amen sista 🙏🏾
These churches that talk about politics should lose their tax exempt status
Dr C. Edmonston hit the nail squarely on the head!!! I would go to their church!!!
When it’s all said and done you will see a move of God that exposes everything! The truth will win out, and many will be embarrassed by the lack of faith revealed in their own walk! I am a pastor in inner city Indianapolis, and so appreciate the boldness of Pastor Locke to stand for the word of God, and his country! I would gladly stand in the trenches with this man of God! All glory to God for bringing up a Warrior in pastor Locke!
Lol, in the trenches?! Whatever happened to keeping it peaceful? Are you sure you're following your bibles?
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."
- Sinclair Lewis -
Media the university and the government are infiltrated with commies
@@anthonyzestley3980 yessirrrr. Communist4lyfe
@@anthonyzestley3980 wdym the academia and press are the enemies of a communist dictatorship
@@giornogiobama7053 communism is literally the product of intellectuals tricking the poor
Everything is fascism these days
I made it to about the 4 minute mark before turning away in grief. Watching a pastor autograph the Bible standing in a circus tent answers all the questions about how we as a country in 2023 got to this point
A circus 🎪 is where their show belongs.
The irony of Greg Locke preaching from a circus tent is not lost on me 🤡🤡🤡
The same guy that says Im just scratching their itch, what they want to hear.. ends with I believe what I say.. and I'll fight till the death for it.. unreal..
Agree, that comment caught my attention too. Along with "it's not what they say it's what they don't say" What does that mean...? He can assume anything with that logic. My dad used to say "pays your money [then you can] take your pick" in this case "pay your taxes, say what you want."
And that’s what they call a grifter... all for fame, money and power, like he said he’s willing to look crazy for it, no to little care for that guy
That blew away 😳 it was like he was admitting to antagonizing. There was so much to unpack in that.
@@lamontblackmon3951 His followers are far too thick to notice though.
Critical thought is simply not in their wheelhouse when they have ignored school teachings mostly to concentrate on religion.
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.
2 Timothy 4:3-4
Don't recall Paul giving out autographs!! Lord help us!! These fools WILL BE left behind!!!
The AUDACITY to sign the Holy Bible is absolutely stunning
@@AbandonedVoid LMBO!! Must be a Greg cult member
Left behind? Like the movie? That was a work of fiction.
@@needlamp2147 No it's not!! you not believing it does not make it less real. it will take place. The rapture, a messiah-like being will rise, sign a 7 yr peace treaty with Israel and her surrounding nations, then the Tribulation begins. Denying it won't make it less true!!
Amen sister
Nothing sacrilegious about having a social media star autograph your Bible, right?
Greg said the quiet part out loud “I tell them what they want to hear.”
Having been raised roman catholic (and despite having left) I associate churches as places of tranquility and when I see these preachers and congregations yelling about politics at the top of their lungs, I can't help but think they would have gotten a smack up the head by a little old nun and been told to shut it at my old church.
Well made documentary, though.
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politics should not be forced in churches but when there are terrible policies Christians should vote for the opposite party.
Agree!
Your church is also to busy. Praying to idols and everything else but god
@@Islam.is.the.truth.. There are no idols in my church, we do not either pray 5 times a day towards an arab pagan shrine where mohammadans strive to touch and kiss a broken clump of black stones.
“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.”
~Barry Goldwater
these people are not christian, they are the opposite
@@thunderstorm6630 Sorry, but that's the True Scotsman Fallacy. These people may not fit your preferred definition of "Christian", but they are. Someone whose name I can't immediately recall pointed out that the problem with fanatical, fundamentalist Christians, Muslims, Hindus and every other brand of religious wingnuttery isn't that those people haven't read their holy books correctly; the problem is that they HAVE read those books and the violent, coercive, illogical bile they spout is supported by the texts.
They don't need to take control of it.
The GOP are already pushing everything that these brainless twods preach so that it resonates so much better to them at the polling booths.
@@allanmason3201 Exactly
All mythologies were once organized religions. They became mythologies once people found out they were nonsense. The same will happen with the Abrahamic faiths.
16:40 The order he puts them in is not a mistake, and is truly telling.
The scene at the end when he gets into that huge pickup truck just puts the icing on the cake
He says he follows the Bible….then feed the poor, help the sick, help the foreigner…..
As a Christian, that is why I identify with the “left” more than I do the “right”
Love thy neighbor and get vaccinated.
💯💯💯💚💚💚
Same, as a whole the "right's" political views feel more weird to me as a Christian. Like how did you draw that conclusion from the Bible/Gospel?
Separation of Church and State is more biblically logical to me, and therefore I have more liberal political views. I can disagree with someone without hating them or treating them less than a child of God.
Absolutely. I’m a liberal catholic I do my best to love thy neighbor vs the hate Catholicism and Christianity promote. It’s difficult staying in the church because of the hate
@@Stephanie-cg6yi I am a liberal Catholic too. My kids go to Catholic school. The other parents make keeping my kids in school almost unbearable because they teach their children to bully other kids who don't love Trump. I wish I was joking. My kids are in second grade. The good thing is that the school actually addressed it.
You took my words @George Kim!
The Preacher said that his congregation is one sided and that he telling what tickles theirs ears and preach what they want to hear instead telling the truth which they may not want hear. That is the definition of a false prophet. The false teachers don’t even quote the Bible. 🤦♀️
They might quote it, but they twist and turn its meaning.
How very easy to do, we know from bitter historical experience.
Almost like it wasn't being well stewarded...
very true Roseann
Not necessary to quote from a bible, the knowledge that provide ethics is within; politics is not from within, it is from without - it does not come from anything but the illusion of the world itself.
22:15 The the time will come when men will no longer tolerate sound doctrine, but w/ itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires. So they will turn their ears away from truth and turn aside to myths (incert: crazy conspiracy theories/teachers). 2 Tim 4:3-4
Jesus Christ is here to stay AMEN Godspeed
sounds to me like some of these so called "pastors" needs to start paying taxes on their so called "churches"!
It's particularly abhorrent to watch people twist Christ into their own image until he becomes unrecognizable. It's an act of violence.
I figure, they will have to explain it to their creator one day.
"Violence" gimme a BREAK!
You would need to prove one exists first.
I am a satanist (not a laveyana satanist)
And even I agree with you.
You can't just twist religion into your own image.
@@blackphantom8415
You're right,
It's just vanity.
I am a retired pastor that believes wholeheartedly that the Church as a whole, for the most part, has sat by, uninvolved, for decades and has been desensitized to the evil that we are now dealing with that has come in like a flood and consumed our societies around the world, not just in the United States! Every generation has had its Greg Lockes who have stood boldly and preached against this progressively encroaching evil, but only a few would hear and now we are reaping the fruit of the seeds we have allowed to be sown. I was one of those who consistently sounded the warning and preached that Jesus Christ was the only WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE. I was constantly at odds with the followers of the “status quo” inside and outside the churches I served. The way I see it, Pastor Locke and others like him are indeed following Jesus Christ! Jesus constantly stood at odds with the religious status quo of the day that the Scriptures tell us “honored God with their lips, but their hearts are far from Him!”
Instead of your rather obvious and poor attempt to make these preachers of righteousness look bad, perhaps you should try making them look like the heroes they are! I must say I was rather amused by your comment about the Global Vision congregation having to move into a “circus tent.” All I see is a congregation growing so rapidly that they wisely erected a temporary facility to hold the number of people who are coming from all over the world to be in these services to experience something that is spiritually genuine! Instead of using the term “circus” in describing this tent, why not call it what it is, a modern-day Tabernacle where God has chosen to pour out His blessings and approval on the worship and delivery of the Word of God that is taking place in it! We use adjectives to describe things based on their obvious characteristics. I don’t see a circus taking place under that tent, therefore it is not a “circus tent”! It is a temporary tabernacle where worship to Almighty God is taking place! I think I would be a little careful calling something God has placed His stamp of approval upon a “circus tent.”
I will say this in closing. I watched this entire “documentary” hoping there was still some quality journalism left in this world. Although you do present some valid points worth consideration and debate for clarification, all you have really done is further solidified the position of those on either side of this debate. Your bias against the boldness of preachers of righteousness like Pastor Locke who are passionate about returning our country to a higher consciousness of God and His righteousness and a closer relationship to Him is obvious. You have failed to present most of his remarks from his preaching clips in the context which they were presented. Your comments did nothing but cast him in a negative light. You even highlighted other ministers who supposedly disagree with him and cast them in a more positive light. I’m sorry, but even the New Testament teaches that there are differences in styles of ministry in the Kingdom of God and as long as the central focus of those ministries is preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ, then they are doing what they should be doing and all ministry that is leading people to Christ is to be honored. But, if we depended on documentaries like yours to make such a determination about Pastor Locke, we would be left scratching our heads. Whatever happened to the kind of journalism that honestly presents truth in context and evidence from both sides of a debate about BOTH SIDES of a debate? Go back and show us more clips from the same messages Pastor Locke preached where he brings his comments to the central focus of his message, the hope that we all have in the saving grace and the unconditional love of God that we have through Jesus Christ the Lord!
Thank you for your thoughtful and on point comments. Sadly, like yours and Pastor Locke's preaching, much of it will fall by the wayside, as the parable of the sower teaches.
I agree. Well said.
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It’s a shame that Christians always forget that we are all at different levels in our spiritual journeys!!!! Jesus Christ preached that the ultimate guidance is the Holy Bible. It saddens me that you are following the teachings of every thing but what is right and true.....John 3:16. I am so sad for all you FOOLS!!!!
Your religion does not belong in our politics. My ancestors fought the revolution to get away from the Church of England. The US citizens will never allow crazy evangelicals rule. Not everyone believes in God and we do not have to and we will not be ruled by your fake friend in the sky. Jesus was from Nazareth, Mary was not a virgin she had other children. Maybe if the church started telling the truth instead of lies more people would care. Go study some more
From the UK....these people are insane....
When you're born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you're born in America, you get a front row seat.
I am a Finnish theology student. I watched this documentary because Roger Olson, a moderate American Evangelical theology professor, recommended this in his blog. Thank you for giving these valuable different perspectives in the film!
I CANT stress enough how big of a Problem
Religion fusing with Politicsis and how amazingly well Telltale
Atheist and Some-More-News and Aron Ra covered all this.
I know Plenty of theological graduates. The Modern American christians don't have Jesus in their heart. They have a love of they're White Culture and skin color over everything. Search your heart.
Maybe Roger Olsen should tell you about child trafficking and the open orders in U.S.
The latest: - TRUMP IS THE AMERICAN MESSIAH AND THE USA THE NEW ISRAEL 👇👇👇
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Remember there are many Americans alarmed by these terrifying extremist zealots and their increasing stranglehold on American life. And look how racially homogeneous these “flocks” are. They often harm their own children if they don’t fit their molds of alleged “morality” as well.
“Make America Godly Again” proceeds to autograph a Bible.
He was autographing his book not the Bible.
Make me rich is really what he preaches
@@barryhollon468 4:28
@@ikonographics and ?
@@rolandkel7696 he is worth $129 million
Circus tent? How appropriately ironic…
Our ancestors came here to escape religious persecution.
Amen Pastor Locke you speak Gods word
No he doesn't. And if you think he does, you're part of the problem
Amen, Judy Lee.
cowardly pastors......he's so not a coward that he thinks he can go before God and explain dumping his wife and family for the church secretary.
Which pastor are u referring to? Is it Greg?
She should have worked out.
Your sins are equal to that of which you just described .
That tracks.
@@LastGenGaming675 *misses the point*
This whole situation is a lot more nuanced than I initially thought, honestly, I wish people would take the time to listen to what these people are saying, understanding Isn’t the same as agreeing.
I was just thinking the same thing!!
This is good reporting. Just an open minded exploration of each sub-coulter. I like it when the reporter asks open ended questions.
If one of these pastors offers me a cup of Kool-Aid, I'm pouring it out.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Haha dark humor i see🤣
I am so glad that I read the Bible on my own. And that I don't attend any of these churches. And I am amazed at what I'm able to recognize in the world today since I've been reading my Bible and paying attention. It's really sad to see so much anger and division in our country, and to see so many people being misled spiritually and politically. 💔😢🙏
Amen me too my friend
And they wonder why people are leaving the church.
I absolutely irony is that so many of these churches that do this political stuff claim that they follow the Bible 100%, nothing more, nothing less…… and that’s just so untrue. It all depends on who is on the pulpit. Different people can put their particular spin on most scriptures regardless, but it’s SO obviously misleading a lot of the time!
I'm with you. You are not alone. We need leaders who are not afraid to stand up and speak against these bullies and their dangerous lies.
Amen. I just don’t know HOW they read their bibles and realize that what they’re doing is NOT what Christ was doing. Jesus was here to do His Father’s work. We should seek to do the same. We should not be focusing our efforts on preserving our rights and our country. We MUST make disciples and preach the gospel of Christ. It’s so simple and so beautiful. Read your Bible brothers and sisters!! Read it and let the Holy Spirit illuminate the scriptures.
Americans have gone all crazy. I don't know whether I should laugh or cry.
"Freedom of religion, but only if it's our religion"
I don't care what religion you are, just don't throw it around as a weapon. To me religion is and always will be something that I do in private. Remember religion and religious leaders are responsible for some of the greatest crimes that humanity has seen.
He is reading the room and telling people what they want to hear, even if it is untrue, hateful and dangerous. He is doing it for the same reason most people do evil deeds, he makes money! (probably lots of it) He will go wherever the money leads, just like all grifters do. It's the same in politics, money poisons everything, along with religion.
Doesn't heir religion say that money is the root of all evil, that it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle that for a rich man to get to heaven?
Evangelicals are just for money. They are the Judas Iscariot who makes money using the Name of Jesus Christ. They are liars all themselves and it is in the Bible. If you know me, then you know my commandment. Love one another.
@@honoralovall5983 Yup and they lust after money anyway. I really disagree with them preaching politics in church. It should be God centered and him preaching the politic stuff really shows his character. He's not of God. He can wear all the God reference shirts he wants, and pretend he's 'passionate' but he preaches hate.
This is Rush Limbaugh on the pulpit
My guess is, he is knats whisker away from his first, own personal jet.
If I will asked GOD to send back the dead preachers of his time,I will do so and pray that GOD will gave us preachers that isn't corrupt,has full of love,peace and unity will be his team of preaching. We are all sinners.according to the BIBLE no one is good.
If a pastor says one word about politics, they need their tax-exemption revoked immediately!
If you think the president is "fake and fraudulent", I can get away with saying the same thing about the current Supreme Court.