How Propaganda Is Destroying Democracy | Breaking The Vote
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- Опубликовано: 9 май 2024
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Media bias is a threat to democracy. "Post coup?" No more a coup than Al Gore's challenges. You're allowed to file court cases and try congressional maneuvers. IT'S NOT A "COUP" UNTIL YOU INVOLVE THE MILITARY! Good Lord people please learn what words mean!
@@svenm7264 To call Jan 6th a coup is laughable. You will know when the revolution comes, there will be no doubt!
This video contains PROPAGANDA
@@MrTheguywiththemoney Nope, it contains lies. Big difference. The most effective propaganda is true.
There are 2 kinds of people you should avoid...
A preacher who tells you how to vote...and
A politician who tells you how to pray...
Never heard that before. I like it.
This is my first time hearing this, but yeah. The moment I spiritually disconnected from my parent’s church is when the preacher spoke out that prop 8 was a good thing and we should all support it.
@@mammawleeright? It’s so simple that you’d think it was a common phrase.
Which politician should do that?
@@marekdeboer7977 None of them should but, they're all trying to...
Religious institutions who are getting involved in politics needs to loose their tax exemption.
But the personal is political according to the left, so everything is political
That pastor did , millions reported him to IRS yet he claims he " walked away from evil government "
@@bloopityblorp6365 hey dingleberry every church in the United States is against abortion and also saying that the left wants to remove religion. So tell me why should churches keep getting exempt from taxes ?
@@bloopityblorp6365 "But what about" Solid deflection.
And forfeit their real estate holdings. Fruits of crime. Take their land away!
"We're tired of being laughed at!"
"Okay, what's their agenda?"
"COMMUNISM!"
Gee, I wonder why we're laughing.
Fr, they don’t wanna be seen as ignorant then complain about gays in movies.
They are meeting at a Mexican restaurant! Now thats a joke.
And with communism they mean free education and healthcare for all… I mean, who in hell can be against that?
17:00 This guys' whole argument about invoking emotion, is exactly what he does, by saying "big bad" Putin vs. "innocent" Ukraine", when everyone knows this is a proxy war and it has everything to do with the US and NATO. So, this guy and in turn his whole argument is BS.
It's not a war on science, it a fight for the truth ass hat! But he invoked your emotions, so we can't have a logical and unbiased conversation. Well played, SEEYA.
Same person bragging about having a PhD, being so smart, and thinking for himself, also believes Democrats want US to be communist and reading books will turn you gay.
I almost short circuited at, "MAGA Republicans meet weekly at a Mexican restaurant in College Station, TX."
This 😂😂😂
Ironic as hell they meet in a Mexican restaurant, whining about immigration policies.
They might not hate or do not want Mexicans in the country and dislike the food and culture, they don't want illegal immigrants!
A lot of Mexicans whine the same way about the same immigration policies
@@chiliring7082 Mexicans whining about US immigration policy? So?
Believe it or not a lot of Mexicans are not concerned about immigration reform. They want closed borders, just as well as a lot of Black Americans.
Optics always go over their head.
It's a shame more Americans don't know what propaganda is or how easily it can become a part of your everyday life.
We are the country modern advertising was perfected in. As a culture, we've spent the last century being propagandized to buy things, resulting in our mentality completely groomed for lies. Watch American cigarette TV commercials from the 60's.
@@plunderpunk2 I think you need to expand your world view. Great Britain colonized the planet and was in charge of laying telegraph lines across the oceans to keep their properties informed and under control. Then we have wireless communication with Marconi and Tesla with RCA. Do some research and see where the "news" comes from. I will admit it is the Western Democracies. All in step.
It's funny because you're watching vice while talking about identifying propaganda
Trump dossier.. cia/fbi and how many agencies involved but it was proven false…
From there earlier tI and ryyyyr😮
Imagine if they actually read Marx. They’d all be confused and disappointed and asking questions like, “Why the hell is Marx rambling on and on about the price of a yard of linen?! Where’s all the parts with the dying of hair colors and child gender confusion, Goddammit?!”.
Blissful ignorance seems like a conservative's paradise! Ban books, completely re-write history to fit the desired narrative and simply believe what you're TOLD instead of seeking the truth...all those pesky facts only cause confusion and get in the way, so we obviously don't need them, right? Despite the rhetoric, reading "The Communist Manifesto" won't make you Communist or Marxist, but it will make you informed aka WOKE aka awakened from the slumber of ignorance. Conservatives are told to believe that being WOKE is a bad, liberal trait and everyone simply goes along with it. Stay asleep aka blissfully ignorant because thinking is hard and MAGA conservatives have no use for facts or rationale. Try reading a book and expand your mind...or is that too radical? 📚😏
@@johndoe-xv3wb bruh you are the one who’s rambling. You just say you don’t get it but never explain what we should get.
@@94benz🤦
I love people that say "we should just get along with each other." How the hell do you get along with people that are clearly detached from reality??? You can't argue with insanity.
A lot of people have struggled with the question of how to bring these extremists back into reality/members of their community. It's clear that arguing doesn't work. Nobody really knows the answer.
they started zero sum. they can die by it as well.
Great question. Now, are you of the camp that decides "your truth" or follows objective truth?
@@pandamandimax I found that by not engaging with them works best. If I'm around people who want to debate politics and are rational in their understanding I'll talk...otherwise I tell them I have no will nor desire to engage with them and I cut them out of the conversation. Pisses them off to no end but the I can't rationalize WITH them and I can't out CRAZY them...nor would I want to.
@@pandamandimax Get them all in a room and do some shrooms.
The irony of Pastor Greg Locke holding his church services under a literal circus tent, is not lost on me. 🤡
It's all part of their escape plan after fleecing the marks for their donations.
Lmao 🤣
Elmer Gantry? Elmer Fudd Gantry?
I thought the same thing when I heard the one group meets at a Mexican restaurant 😅 I thought they wanted them all out of the U.S 🤦♀
It's entirely lost on you that the tent is same tent used in True Detectives?
It is much easier to convince people with a lie, than to convince them that they are being lied to.
Never tell the truth,
When a lie will do.
@@noahpartic7586 nailed it !
how truthful you are!
Love your avatar. My lobotomy does, too.
@@spaceman063 Thanks, I do what I can.
watching how confident they were to being right just breaks my heart ... I feel like there is no turning back for them
Talking to my mom has become impossible. She’ll tell me these insane things, and there’s no convincing her otherwise. I’ve never been very political, but I’ve had to become political and informed just to try and show her reality.
What people don't understand is that even during the best of times, everything is political. How much you get paid, how much you have to work, the cost of your rent or mortgage, the cost of your food - all of it is 1000% political and 1000% a group effort.
And they still do not understand. They try to gaslight like the orange dictator wanna be.
@@sandife4nandes365 I'm going to ask you a question if I was to tell you that there children in this country germany or all over Europe that are being bought directly from the mom raised by someone until around 3 year's old and then put in a brothel would you say to me that's horrible but not my problem because I do not see that in my everyday life?
@@slimvera5373 I'm a LCSW. You would be horrified at the things I see. You are carrying a good bit of baggage. Therapy really does help!
@@sandife4nandes365 sucks when straights have the power of progress
"People will believe a lie, either because they want it to be true, or because they are afraid it is the truth." - Terry Goodkind
I love the Sword of Truth series
Funny they didn't mention the Democrats claiming that Russia stole the 2016 election for Trump over the past six years. In fact here's an amazing super cut of every major Democrat doing exactly what Vice claims is so dangerous to our fake democracy.
ruclips.net/video/uoMfIkz7v6s/видео.html
The truth is that both parties have been guilty of iIIegaIIy rigging elecłions at particular times in history. But Vice wants you to believe that only one party does this. The entire system is a sham.
First Wizard's Rule
@Gav Liddle it's a human trait. It is also a political trait only inasmuch as humans drive politics but it isn't inherent in Democracy or Our Constitutionally Limited Democratically Representative Republic.
LOL! So funny those hypocritical Republicans who hate immigrants meet at a Mexican restaurant to plan their next abomination on American Democracy, lol.
"I don't have to show you the evidence".....and there it is
Can't keep a lie going otherwise
@The dark King hahaha man, go live in north Korea then or china, now there will you find entrenched corruption because those bureaucrats have no one to challenge them. Sure there is corruption too in democracies, but at least here, we have some fighting chance to oust them from power, try doing that in a dictatorship, good luck with that.
"Which means the possibility of the corrupts and extremists reaching power"
HAHAHA! Yeah, because no one has heard of dictators doing the most appalling and horrendous crimes and atrocities to their country's populations, in addition to a tendency to going to war with neighboring countries and subjugating more people... man, have you ever picked up a single history book?
Sure there have been some benevolent dictators (as there have been dozens of presidents who actually try and do the right thing), I won't try and deny that, but focusing on that is stupid, the point is that, no one should ever be able to wield that much power, because the potential for disaster and downright enslavement of swathes of populations becomes a matter of what mood, this single person is in... that is nightmarish!
"Prosperity of non-democratic countries"
Obviously you don't even know what GDP is; democracies have overall the strongest economies.
Please, go back to elementary school, that "training" of yours and your communist manifesto (or whatever other, pro-totalitarianism crap you've been reading) is making you huge diservice, because your apologetics are downright laughable and Im not sure you're just being a troll here.
obama, on his entire education after high school
The most amazing part of the interview with the rooftop republicans is that they understand that the battle is between the elites and the common people and yet they work for the party that does the most to promote what the elites really want; Less regulation, less government, lower taxes on the rich, less access to education, bigger defense budgets, more control over women, more restrictions on voting access, lower spending on social safety nets, and so on.
Imagine a retired judge being apart of this craziness I’m sure he’s fucked up a lot of peoples lives
I always thought that with age you get more open and intelligent, learning from past mistakes, in general, becoming a better person with time. these people proved me wrong.
you're leftist progressive and you've become less intelligent and haven't learned from the mistakes of the past. now you're the pot calling the kettle black.
such a good point. i never really stopped and thought about that. maybe that is where things get so entangled. where are the positive (exp.) male influences at? they have been dwindling in numbers since the "war on drugs" has been enacted. i believe, neo-slavery, is the intent of numerous politicians & moguls, across the world. good post. sending you & yours much, peace love and empathy.
if you aint growing, youre dying. and change is constant. its a choice. everybody can plainly see deplorables have not chosen to live.
As a Canadian, I don't understand why Americans are so caught up in being "Republican" or "Democrat". Why does that have to be your identity? Just vote for someone or a group that will serve your country to the best of its abilities for that term. Also, why is America so darn religious? It seems that secularism is slowly disappearing in The US and the story of The Handmaid's Tale is coming closure to reality every day.
@ James Lascelles As a Canadian you should know how much our culture is influenced by America. The same thing happening in America happens here like 3-5 years after. As the Simpsons said Canada is the whopper jr to Americas whopper. Canada is so pathetic without its own culture that they just followed the maga crowd example of storming DC and stormed Ottawa. I mean I could even bring up the reality shows we steal from America and call our own it’s really pathetic tbh. TLDR; Canada is a America/Britain hybrid baby that thinks it’s superior to America with our free healthcare but have people dying in waiting rooms for care.
Believe it or not. Consumerism and modernity inevitably leads to formation of mass men. People who don't know how neither bother to think individually, rather buy and consume ideology from ideological market, the market is run by small groups of rich people.
The problem with low income white america is their loss of standard of living, and their resentment is a hot commodity for ideology sellers on both left and right wing.
They are disaffected, but they cannot do anything about it. They income ain't increasing nor is their standard of living. Though their vote is very useful, and many people are selling them ideologies to get it.
But they aren't going to gain anything. It is only going to get worse.
Well, I think this is because of a few of things.
1) Our politics has only two parties. So, politically speaking, there is an obvious dichotomy (are you with me or are you against me).
2) US Media has been very focused on this dichotomy for a very long time.
3) There has been a very explicitly controlled and extremely well funded effort by right wing groups to push a right wing narrative which most definitely includes propaganda. They are using this effort to enact change (politically, financially and socially). People who don't like this have no choice but to support the Democrats (whether they actually like the Democrats or not).
Those are all older Americans us young ones don't even care about politics we don't vote because we know we don't win either way the religion in America is how older people cover up their racist and bad beliefs by saying they are doing it for their God we young ones don't go to church on Sunday because we see the greed of religion and the hatred it creates
America is not as religious as you think. I'm a millennial and very few individuals I went to school with are religious or still religious. Certain states definitely have a larger religious component to them, a lot of immigrants who move here tend to be religious but Americans themselves, gen z and millennials, organized religion is dying with them; though, that dogma attitude that comes with organized religion has definitely transfered to politics here. People who are dogmatically political which I've seen amongst my peers, so maybe the attitude part has never died in America unfortunately.
I love the shot of the confused kid in the tent flipping through his Bible trying to find the page that talks about Nancy Pelosi
"I'll show you when time comes" Then why should I believe you right now?
I swear this could have been about flat earthers, not political, and it would sound roughly the same. The way people will ignore "common sense" to believe a lie that's convenient to them is scary. It's OK to be wrong about a topic or a person as long as you can realize and admit it.
It reminds me of the anti gun propaganda that vice is guilty of.
The ignorance about Flat earthers is that it's supposed to be a Critical Thinking group that doesn't automatically conform to any scientific discovery and theory.
You can think about it like a deliberate spoof or parody club but to seriously encourage critical thinking.
It's not literally believing that the earth is flat. And if you share any resources that shows people believe, then it's not supposed to be the real intention of the society's vision
It's a fucking nightmare to be in the middle.
It’s not scary it’s a very very common psychological coping mechanism. Critical thinking is rarer than it should be. Almost every single person does it whether it’s politics or views on earths geographical shape.
Like how you ignore Operation highjump?
Not only have we lost the ability to have uncomfortable conversations with each other, but also how to lose graciously. This takes sore loser to a shocking level.
Yup! To be proven wrong should be celebrated because it raises our level of awareness.
when did "we" have that ability? you can't have an honest uncomfortable conversation with someone who is there in bad faith. it's not a "we" thing
@@scumbojeejo1142True, unless you're a malignant narcissist/sociopath/psychopath.
You're talking about Hillary yet her propaganda wasn't covered in this video.
@@ConnectingAudio The OP wasn't talking about anybody, but I guess she lives rent free in your head, huh?
Broooooooooo! These people say they hate communism and Marx one sentence then say "it's not about Republican vs Democrats, it's about the people vs the elites"....
THAT IS LITERALLY MARXS IDEA😂😂😂😂
As a southern liberal, thank you for showing the southern conservatives in a humanizing light. It drives me NUTS when Northern or California media companies come into the South with a specific narrative. It's so important to understand where others are coming from or else there's no dialogue at all.
I feel the same just being an American. The rest of the world has such a lack of sympathy for Americans, we get made fun of for school shootings! I know a lot of kind and respectful people from all corners of the US, but we get drowned out far too often.
And your narrative is any better? Don't say you don't have a specific narrative. Yours narrative is just that the Northern and California media has a specific narrative that you don't particularly like.
As a black southern liberal ex-Christian That light (bigots hiding behind faith) is 100% accurate.
I think you missed the part where the conservatives called liberals and progressives communists lol
Young people do not spend much time on mainstream media. Also, I've never met anyone who complains about communism actually knows what that actually is.
they don't need to know what communism is, Gregerson. they only need to know that it is NOT well regulated capitalism. that is a threat to the people of the United States, and what they hold dear: freedom to pursue their interests, freedom to choose their life, protect their life and rights and protect their property.
communism is anathema to these sacrosanct ideals.
@@kyledupont7711 BINGO!
It hasn't been tried anywhere. Thanks to capitalism
@@kyledupont7711 no. The west has systematically interfered with any form of socialist government in an attempt to make it look like a terrible idea. Do you honestly think the west wants to see communism succeed anywhere? Of course it doesn't. God forbid people would actually start to question why we all have to work all day to put money in someone else's pockets
The greatest challenge of this world is knowing enough about a subject to think you are right, but not knowing enough about the subject to know you are wrong…
Ignorance is the idea to think you know enough about a subject to stop listening to other opinions.
Well said!
I see this issue all the time… people think they know everything about a subject because they’ve read a few Google pages.
Like hello… if you’re not a doctor you can’t usually fully understand medical talk.
If you’re not a lawyer then you’re not going to know how to read laws correctly and understand the ACTUAL meanings..
The list goes on and on…
There is a reason we have people who spend their lives studying ONE subject and relaying that information to us.
Just because you can comprehend a basic understanding of something it absolutely DOES NOT mean you get it or you get it correctly… you have to have the background. Otherwise you’re just an egotistical idiot. 😂
Actually they couldn't care less what they do or don't know. They care about grifting and their own bank account
That makes no sense and all you saying well said don’t understand enough about anything
Those people who fights against democracy and liberalism always forget that they have the opportunity to share their point of view just because democracy and liberalism gave them. Under totalitarism almost all of them would be in jail.
The irony of a bunch of elites sitting around complaining abut the elites.
It’s so sad how confident these ppl are with their ignorance
One word: Religion.
@@hadara69 two religions: evangelicalism and Muricaism ')
@@KootFloris a beagon...whoaah.
Like 19 highjackers brought down the towers and how WTC Building 7 was brought down by fires in free fall.
@@hadara69 what do you think about the fact that hillary clintons lawyer was the sole reason they said donald trump colluded with Russia
Differences in opinion is perfectly fine. When you deny facts and refuse to listen to anything else besides what you want to hear, that's when it becomes scary...
Facts can be fabricated, thats the problem
Please, the "facts" are manufactured while the truth is censored.
@@Spillers72 Found one of the Extremists everyone!
@@Spillers72 Can you back that claim? Where is your source? Are you saying that facts and truth arent in the same category?
You're saying this about a video that accuses only one side of promoting propaganda, when it's objectively clear that the other side is guilty as well. That in itself is propaganda.
i very clearly remember learning about different types of propaganda in my 20th century u.s. history class and these last few years have been making me think about it a lot
Grievance industry. Never heard that term before, but I love it.
This group is obviously very uneasy that they have to engage with someone who is clearly educated about political history and not just a guy spewing the illogical one liners they base their political beliefs on.
@ChristiansStormed OurCapitol well by the look of your name I can already tell you're an idiot. But you would like to fund education? I think that's a good idea seeing as people like you definitely need a lot more of it. And gosh seeing how you want education funded so much how much would you say you give per year in charitable donations to educational institutions?
who said building better than destroying?
AMERICA IS GREAT. I LOVE AMERICA. BEAT COUNTRY IN THE WORLD 💯🙏🙌🇺🇸
By what metric is the US the best country in the world?
Lmao my thoughts exactly this guy listed off three different ideals that are left of the people in the room and their faces went BLANK
“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” ― Mark Twain
Masks work!
Masks don't work!
Tuskegee was real---don't trust government!
Totally Save & Effective----trust government!
(D) is good!
(R) is good!
(D) is evil!
(R) is evil!
Earth is flat like it says in God's holy scriptures!
Earth is a ball tilted at 66.6° like lucifer made it!
Yep, it's WAAAAAY easier to fool people 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
ABSOLUTELY 💯 AGREE YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON TO THE NOSE 👃
' Quotes.common are insterted by script bots. ' - Emperor Maximilious Lincoln.
17:00 This guys' whole argument about invoking emotion, is exactly what he does, by saying "big bad" Putin vs. "innocent" Ukraine", when everyone knows this is a proxy war and it has everything to do with the US and NATO. So, this guy and in turn his whole argument is BS.
It's not a war on science, it a fight for the truth ass hat! But he invoked your emotions, so we can't have a logical and unbiased conversation. Well played, SEEYA.
Loved watching this. I learned a lot about talking to the other side. Listening and learning and mirroring back
"Pff I don't need no evidence! Isn't that right Jesus!"
"Umm it's pronounced Jésus and I don't know you."
I thought it rather hilarious that the Rooftop Republicans meet weekly at none other than a Mexican restaurant.
Maybe that is why they do not think they are racists? I mean, they will eat Mexican right?! 🙃
Texas was once a part of Mexico.
Some of those people have Mexican blood
@@swballer77036 Sure but they think its blue.
@@swballer77036 Texas was once part of Spain, and before that the Indians, idiota.
It’s the maga faithful meeting at a Mexican restaurant for me 😂😂😂😂
There are Latinos that support MAGA. So what's your point?
haaa I was thinking the same EXACT thing. THE IRONY
MAGA people are not white/race supremacist. Sure some people on the right are racist but so are some people on the left. IMO both parties are screwing up America
Even more irony the workers are illegal. The illegals serving them coffee etc.
Curse you for not putting a timestamp!
I would give a weeks pay to have him ask "How many of you have read the communist manifesto?"
“Because of the free press, America has largely been free of propaganda throughout the 20th century”
Come on now. I know the Vice folks have read “Manufacturing Consent”
When orange guy said he didn't know much about Q, he outed himself as either incompetent (for not knowing while being President) or a liar. Which is it Don? Liar or Incompetent?
I'd say he's both.
He has proven himself to be both on countless occasions
And yet times were good under 45.
@@jaybee9269 Trump sucked and so does Biden.
@@jaybee9269
You have to have some pretty huge blinders on to actually believe that.
😂😂😂😂 no way dude.7:45 this lady said "this isn’t a republican vs democrats thing, it’s about the people vs the elites". That’s straight out of Karl Marx bro.
Actually it's right wing populism
@@nilnil8411 Actually it is the right wing exploiting and misdirecting the same concerns expressed by Marx for their own ends, by turning government into the enemy of the people rather than the capitalists who have corrupted it.
The enemy was and always has been globalists..
“I dont have to show you the evidence”
Let’s say it’s true.. he’s right.
He’s knowing keeping info that could save kids. Knowingly. Why?
This is well done. Thank you
I was raised in a pretty middle of the political spectrum mid western family. We all moved to Texas in the 70's when the economy in the midwest went to hell. My brother and his family have lived in College Station tx for 50 years. His family has become very evangelical and very pro Trump. (As an economics professor, he has remained fiscally conservative, but balks at Trump republicanism. I have a super conservative Dallas sister and a super liberal Fort Worth sister. I"m a left leaning centrist, or try to be. I'm certainly a social liberal if nothing else. We can't even get together as a family anymore. My sisters haven't spoken to each other in 10 years. A visit to my brother's family includes Fox News 24/7 on the tv. We were all raised in the same family by the same parents. My dad worshipped JFK although he leaned pretty racist and classist economically. My mom was a liberal high school English teacher. We used to enjoy each others company. Now, if I talk to one sister the gets angry. I can't even mention the other one's name in their presence.
My own experience in Texas is that it didn't used to be this way. When I moved here we had a Democrat governor. In the 90's we had a Democrat female governor. Today we have one of the most conservative Republican governors in the country. I don't understand what's happened.
I don't think we are witnessing the end of truth. I think we are witnessing the end of trust, which is even worse.
Yeah. George W Bush pretty much destroyed Austin Texas then went on to destroy the entire country over OIL. The sorry SOB is a war criminal as he & Cheney started the 20+ year war in the Middle East. There were no weapons of mass destruction. It was all a lie. But those sorry SOB’s on FOX LIE 24/7 blaming the blacks, Latinos, the gays, the trans, because we have SO MUCH POWER YA KNOW. So yeah. They’ve all been brainwashed into blaming the miniority instead of the true devil aka: the conservative right.
"They say we can't think for ourselves, and that's why we talk in cliche propaganda that the craziest of politicians tell us to repeat."
😂
I honestly for sorry for them. They're older and simply just don't have it in them to think otherwise, because that entails challenging your thoughts and beliefs, and that in itself can be a scary thing.
@@zacharysmith4787 It's true that people are scared of change, of doing things out of their comfort zone, but when your comfort zone is ignorance, hatred, selfishness, and all kinds of other things, you are literally a danger to the human race. We have responsibility, period.
And we have plenty of people much older than them who are willing to think, look, and listen.
The reason we made it this far as a species is because of our ability to change and to challenge our previously held beliefs, or else we would never have learned anything complex.
they said donald trump was colluding with russia for 5 years all the while it was literally hillary clintons lawyer who brought that false information to the fbi. please respond. are you thinking for yourself?
3:53 That guy has a PhD on what? Drinking Kool Aid?
You trying to tell me this video isn't propaganda as well?
8:00 Very telling when one doesn't list education, healthcare or justice in the list of things that matter. Looks like only army and police matter for this guy.
You are part of the 1% who watched the video
Education is free, anyone can educate themselves using the internet … healthcare? You must mean allowing children to alter their genitals or decide if they want to change gender or take hormones? Or maybe you’re a pill popper that needs a cabinet full of drugs
Very telling that this guy doesn’t agree with my priorities and policy platform 100%. that is incredibly suspect
@@bloopityblorp6365 eduction should always be one of the most important spending
@@mastersonogashira1796 education is already one of the best funded federal campaigns. Tell me you never looked at government expenditures without telling me.
It’s hard to not laugh when they’re sitting in a Mexican restaurant 😂
oh but they're good Mexicans
lol I thought the same exact thing!
Exactly.
why is it so hard for you idiots to recognize the difference between metered legal immigration and encouraged and pervasive illegal immigration...
How can you be, both, against "the elite" while also not wanting "the elite" to, therefore, pay their fair share/ be taxed at a greater rate/ be required by regulation to give back to the betterment of society?
Thank's the info . . .
Rumours are created by haters, spread by fools and accepted by idiots.
Our nation in a nutshell 🎯
Nice
Facts and beautifully stated
Notice how the people around the table contradicted themselves on a regular basis. 🤦♂️ Intellectual incongruities.
In PS 101 I was taught about something my prof called "slippage", whereby someone takes something you already don't like and links it in your mind to something that they want you not to like.
We are really living in scary times.
The end of days. Right wingers will destroy the world.
Especially in neofascist countries like the US.
Just for cowards. The rest of us are fine.
@The dark King "3- For the human beings, democracy is not the most important thing, but the most important is the the prosperty [sic] which can be found in non-democratic countries" Now that I've stopped laughing so hard, which countries are you referring to?
@The dark King You just contradicted yourself. Qatar? Comparing anything to Qatar is just so dumb I can't. Like Comparing other countries to Vatican City.
Singapore has similar economic growth to the US and other democratic countries and seems otherwise unremarkable. I don't see your point. Naming two countries which are out of the top fifty in population is disingenuous at best, entirely dishonest at worst. I live in Indiana, which has more people than Singapore. Name a couple real countries.
"..group of MAGA faithful who meet weekly at a Mexican restaurant.". Boy that hits hard (3.10)
মেক্সিকান ছার অনেক ভারতীয় GOP voters.
That's because you're a racist.
Sarcasm is not your strong suite it seems
Theres literally no politician in the history of the world that is worth fighting for.
Or dying for. They are a dime a dozen, if you are willing to do that, just admit you're in a CULT.
32:26 Help- I've seen this scene before lmao.
I love MTG saying that teachers are trying to "transition" preschoolers, children, etc. Like..... Ma'am, we are trying to keep them from beating each other to death with toy dinosaurs, from shoving crayons up their nose, and getting their literal poop on themselves and each other. If I could transition a preschooler into anything, it would be into another damn classroom lol
...what???
@@nicolaslalonde2807 can you not read?
Yeah... but reality doesn't get voters riled up. That vile woman is known for making up other even absurd things, like Jewish space lasers start forest fires. The people that vote for her are easily duped.
It's funny because project Veritas exposed a school administrator saying he only hired teachers who did this stuff...
Right?! Tell me youve never been around a 4yo with out telling me you've never been around a 4yo 😆 🤣
"They're laughing at us!" Says Mr PhD before he makes a fool of himself.
The guy who called us “queers”?
If I was there, I’d ask that man if he thinks someone having “two dads” is funnier.
They deserve to ridicules and laughed at.
"COMMUNISM!"
Paranoia is the common denominator
“ meet weekly at a Mexican restaurant “ 🤦♂️
been in a union since I worked in a grocery store at 15. still have no idea why people are so afraid of it ???? and how do they not think Trump is an Elite !!
Because the reality is, he’s one broke ass weak dude.
I think one of the BIGGEST problems in our country today, is that people take information at face value, they don't even do a quick google search, I remember seeing the quote that said “There are approximately 1,010,300 words in the English language, but I could never string enough words together to properly express how much I want to hit you with a chair." (Alexander Hamilton, to Thomas Jefferson)”, I thought it was funny, but I was pretty skeptical, I did a google search, and found multiple credible sources that said it was not real, and it only took me 2 minutes MAX.
I do find it fascinating with the power to find so much at our fingertips, how little it is used.
Humans are emotional creatures who can reason, not the other way around.
The thing is that while most people outside maga world would turn to google or some other encompassing source to validate something, a lot of the maga world do their "research" within the maga world itself: they listen or go to to podcasts, news channels, websites, chatrooms, social media etc or other members with their same views, so they hardly expose themselves to objectivity or another point of view.
@@curtisthomas2670 when talking with friends, I will sometimes actively fact check myself bc I wanna make sure what I’m saying is right
Lmao why would that sentence even be a real quote 😭
I think that’s the most dangerous thing that’s been done. Anything that disagrees with what they think is said to be ‘fake’, trust in reputable sources has been totally and deliberately eroded until it’s much easier to denegate or disregard even the most rational of truths
Well done!
They don't like elitist people. Retired judges and PhDs! LMFAO
It isn't the lies, or even the liars that are the issue, it is the willingness and ignorance of citizens to embrace lies in an effort to reinforce their long-held racist views and to find scapegoats for their own failures in life.
And the demographic of people willing to exploit ignorance, fear, and bigotry for financial gain, regardless of the harm and negative consequences it results in. It's a blurred line between those who are pandering to the most base instincts for personal wealth and power, and the ones who sincerely believe it. At some point the two become indistinguishable from one another.
what are you talking about? heres an actual lie they said donald trump was colluding with russia for 5 years all the while it was literally hillary clintons lawyer who brought that false information to the fbi. please respond
That's true no doubt but I've been on both sides and that race stuff ...never mind .
Like all the people who chanted BLM, then burned down and destroyed black owned businesses in Philadelphia.
"We're tired of them treating us like they need to teach us stuff..." As they say all sorts of stupid things about communism.
Those r the individuals if u gave them a test, and the questions were
Define Communism
Define Capitalism
Define Socialism
Define Libertarianism
Define Democratic-socialism
They would not get one right I guaranteed you
Who is they Ryan? And how many people do you need to hear that have escaped their communist hell.... saying that the left and their policies are going down that same road... if our military is supposed to defend the constitution..... they failed! The extreme scum that are in the white house right now have sh** on the constitution..... so im glad you all like this cute channel called VICE ... but if it weren't for the right this now long time left leaning channel would be dust in the wind.
@@beforeiforget2153 ...well, you. You are they. So on the nose, thanks for showing everyone.
@@MatildaAndFriends you bumped your head...
@@Wildcat82164 they can't even define liberalism when he tries giving them the opportunity to distinguish outside ideological terms.
Nice Fear Factor 2004 vibe going on with the leather jacket and the set!
“I’ve got a PHD”.
A PHD in what?
Marketing?
Business?
It it were a degree that illustrated how smart you are, you would have lead with what your degree was in, not that it is a PHD.
To people that are actually educated, your PHD in some worthless field is indeed, WORTHLESS.
As soon as they brought up the “communist” and “Marxist” accusations, is when I realized that these people are nuts.
especially when one of them said “progressivism is communism” 😅
Well, the problem is that they *aren't* nuts. They have been deceived.
"It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
@@mnguardianfan7128 the people who through that out as an epithet, neither seem to know what it means, nor are able to distinguish it from autocracy, in general.
So I lean pretty far right but I agree with you. The government loves to come up with boogiemen and communism and Marxism is an old one. And I don’t support those things, but this weird obsession with them as this huge threat doesn’t make sense
I agree and I also feel the same way when I see people bring up “fascists” which also does not exist in these contexts. There are no Marxist liberals and Fascist conservatives lol. What we have in America is something entirely new. Find some new labels.
Old man claims that he has PHD.
I made a research about him. He holds PHD in Theology.
🤣🤣
At least he did make up stuff about his PHD in made up stuff.
@@ivandafoe5451 My favorite comedy among many Americans is the assumption that having degree in Theology qualifies U to question scientific evidence about Human evolution 😆😆😆
@@lukalucas8939 you just logically recused yourself from commenting on any subject in which you don't have a formal degree.
@@RobertMJohnson can u tell me how?
"I don't have to show you the evidence". Damn, that dude's a sharp minded guy. Good point
Last section is mislabeled as "Interview with Chris Wallace" instead of Chris Starwalt.
We need MUCH more of this type of reporting.
and better SCHOOLS and more funds !!!
why?
Why not
@Sensei yeah right. child.
@Sensei Intelligence is knowing that your "comment" is divisive BS.
While nobody can deny that this kind of propaganda is accelerating and intensifying, the US has LITERALLY NEVER been free of propaganda like this…
it all starts with telling themselves they're number one - and believing it in the face of all the contrary evidence.
Yea but local news paper propaganda is nothing like the way Information is shared over the internet now...most older people honestly don't know how to use the internet and now it's in their pockets.. im only 40 and can remember when there was no / very little internet .
😳What Country doesn't deal in some form of Propaganda? It's not just for Putin's Russia, China, North Korea ANYMORE.
@Jay I think he has a point about the internet though. It really has completely unshackled propaganda from the limits of physical publication/analog broadcasting, and older people, especially baby-boomers, seem to be much more vulnerable. There’s probably a variety of reasons, but they don’t seem to be as cognizant of the ubiquitous mis/dis-information existing alongside-and looking largely the same as-all legit information sources. Maybe not the internet as a whole, but this is certainly the case on social media.
the entire world hasn't been free from propaganda. what are you, 12?
Probably one of the most sickening answers you can get… “I don’t have to show you the evidence”. And yes such an answer should be interpreted as
a STOPSIGN🛑 Teach family, friends, kids, colleagues… never to ignore the stop sign! NO EVIDENCE NO TALK!
Turn around and walk away‼️
I fell for it in 2001. Joined the army. Went to Iraq. Saw no weapons of mass destruction. Came back with great distrust for politicians.
The reporter literally had to teach those idiots about their own party & belief system.
Yeah he was really good, he schooled those old motherfuckers!
not everyone bekueves 100% of whatever their party believes and if you do your lost
It’s a real shame what American Society has become.
Right? Burning down black businesses while chanting BLM. Poor people.
It's a myth that the general public ever had democracy, but that is not to say that democracy did not and does not exist; it definitely does but only for the corporate and powerful elite class who are the ones who fund campaigns, control elections, and who basically have bought out Congress and the State Houses. Yet it should be noted that throughout American history, in lieu of our government not acting to help people, individuals have continually acted on their own to change public policy and society,. If fact, all of the major social progress ever achieved in our nation's history has been initiated and primarily fought for by individual citizens who were able to recognized a certain social injustice, join with like minded people, figure out a course of action in order to resolve the problem, and then proceed to do it until a practical and logical resolution was achieved, and even though this could be called anarchism, it is also democracy, but these achievements often took decades to achieve and often at a cost of people's lives. And so, when I say we don't have democracy, I am referring to not have a safe and secure democratic structure in which the general public can express their public voice, unite, and exert and wield real democratic power upon society. With most phones now having internet access, we now have the means, along with our personal computers that many people, to implement an online, democrat, public platform for the general public so that ordinary concerned citizens could have the ongoing opportunity to participate in the political process in a very meaningful and constructive way. znetwork.org/znetarticle/on-establishing-an-online-democratic-platform-for-the-general-public/
24:40 is this dude not the guy who played Victor zas in Gotham
That old geezer in the Jeffrey Dahmer glasses 3:28 is infuriating. A former judge and a PhD recipient speaking like that is wild in 2022. And that entire crowd feeling LGBTQ characters in media is direct way to condescend them is just wildly ridiculous.
Its all just an excuse to play victims to them.
Having a PhD doesn't automatically mean someone is smart or rational. Just that they did the work.
You young'ns don't want to be ruled over by these fascist pig old people, you'd better show up to the polls.
Crazy Christians
You become a judge through corruption. You buy your degree. Everyone is crazy. Some people become confident enough to stop hiding it.
In that 5:00 to 5:30 mark when those on the table complain about the condescension towards them, they demonstrate then exactly why they are being condescended. Wrapping communism together with liberalism, social democracy, progressivism, failing miserably to even understand what they are talking about is why they are looked down upon.
Exactly!
We are experiencing in real time the deterioration of human psychology. This will not go away
Yes
“You can believe something really hard, and still be wrong.” - Jodi Picoult
Beliefs divide us, but values can unite us.
For what it's worth, conservative Christianity ALWAYS had a conspiratorial world view. When you believe that you are the ONLY true religion on this planet, it becomes easier to think that the rest of the world is out to get you.
THIS. Thankfully, this line of thinking paired with “only the sith deal in absolutes” gave me enough space to question if I was on the wrong side.
It’s showing that it’s truly a large stage .
Thanks to the Republicans who wiped fair and balanced requirements from journalism
"What is the cost of lies? It’s not that we’ll mistake them for the truth. The real danger is that if we hear enough lies, then we no longer recognize the truth at all. What can we do then? What else is left but to abandon even the hope of truth and content ourselves instead with stories? In these stories, it doesn’t matter who the heroes are. All we want to know is: Who is to blame?" - Valery legasof
That's the left wing. Just look at MSNBC
it's funny how you probably wouldn't relate to this or maybe even understand it until you start to feel threatened by seeing it happening
cold war cost $13 trillion according to DOD
That preacher is going straight to hell
Yeah, pastors are not pastors in wealthy countries. They are salesmen. Who sell an idea or a product.
I really assumed this group conversation would have gone worse, red hats flying kinda worse.
I cantttt be the only one who's shook 😂 good job guys
It is what happens when money buys your reality
They need to tax these churches!
What about synagogues and mosques? Or should the government only Crack down on the one religion you don't like? That sounds like it comports with the 1st Amendment...yep!
@@paulkeiper1381 synagogues and mosques aren't coalescing together with politics, nor are they operating almost like businesses, generating massive amounts of capitol for mega buildings of worship.
SEE- authoritarian democrat ready to punish free speech
No we need to impeach democrats
Taxation is theft.
Ask them if they are okay with loosing their Social Security and Medicare that they have paid into their whole working life
The "pro-life" party of "family values" think the attacks on social security and benefits will only harm non old people. They're ok with families being underpaid and starving if they can't get by. They're ok with gay teens committing suicide if they can't find support systems that don't revolve around religion making them hate themselves more. They're ok with trans people being killed, beaten, homeless, and starving. They are good with destroying others families and their own if they don't fit the narrative. They're good with kids waiting an extra 5 years to never being adopted as long as gay and trans people don't get to adopt. They also do not understand the buzzwords they use such as communism and socialist they latch on to people who remind them of their authoritarian religious parents and due to that do not think.
If I did that, they’d probably laugh and ask me if I know the difference between “lose” and “loose”.
The people that need to see this won’t. But if they do, it’s fake news to them
I also that people living in rural areas are seeing their lives losing the economic war. Their towns are dying. Their infrastructure is falling apart. Jobs , Heath-care, education , roads and bridges . Many areas don’t internet. In some cases they are worse off than the poor in urban areas. They have less opportunity.
Those nice old folks want "no compromise politics" not understanding that that is what politics is. A country full of different people and ideals requires compromise to function.
Plus, the constitution that they love requires compromise for a functioning government. Then again, they might not want a functioning government.
It's too bad our framers, in their infinite wisdom, did not include a mechanism to force lawmakers to compromise.