And I don’t know if he has tattoos but I know some of his closest associates that he calls brothers in Christ have several, so I doubt he preaches against that either.
@@turtleneckferret interesting - you actually called a different church entirely a joke, since you used the wrong name, which makes me thing you are a joke 😃
@@BintAmun Unitarian (deny the deity of Jesus Christ) Universalist (everyone goes to heaven) Church ... would that be the correct nomenclature for that gathering?
For someone who can argue with the Bible coherently, gracefully, and tactfully to not be considered Christian by someone who is in open rebellion against the Bible but claiming to be Christian is insane.
The "Reverend" Doctor of a Universalist "Church" and another woman "pastor" may not have been the best interview choice to oppose a Pastor who studies and at least attempts submission to the authority of scripture.
It is not to be expected that a secular news outlet would make a choice based on scripture. They are only taking into account that both sides call themselves Christian.
Why did the original group of people come from Europe to America? For religious freedom... Not to force others to their belief just freedom. So to say this "church" is anything other than mr Wilson's way of creating his little kingdom. Christianity is a baby religion not near as old as other religions. To say it is the one true religion is ridiculous and ignorant. I will not be forced to take your religion or ignorant views. Nothing based on science or otherwise. You all need to grow up and realize that this church was kicked.out of every other place it's been in. And they need to go make their compound and leave the rest of the world out of their very skewed views and beliefs
@@dagwould hahaha, a classically misused verse. This verse is about how we are all heirs to Christ’s saving grace and righteousness. This does not remove the roles of male and female, otherwise Paul would not have spent time in his other books writing about the roles between the sexes.
I imagine they intentionally left out where he almost certainly went on to explain that husbands are called to live their wife as Christ loves the church - Christ served us and gave His life for us - so therefore the husband is called to serve and sacrifice for his wife. A very important part. And it comes directly after the verse that was mentioned in this.
The important part for me is that he says wives should be submissive to their husbands. There is no way to spin that view positively. It doesn't matter how much a husband 'loves' his wife if he makes submission a condition of that 'love'. A religion that believes women exist to serve men is just wrong.
@@avacadomangobanana2588 this is not Catholicism . When they had the dark ages , we are talking about true Christ followers. But there will never be a perfect nation until Christ comes.
"I don't see them representing values I find in the Bible, I see them representing Patriarchy." It would take a UU reverend to put these two statements right next to each other and say them out loud.
Most of the Bible is based on patriarchy, because that’s been the prevalent cultural trend even in ancient Jewish culture. Ironically, if you read the parts of the Bible that Jesus allegedly said, he believed and treated women as equals
@@down-to-earth-mystery-school your explanation gives the Bible human origin, which it actually denies. It’s ironic that you believe patriarchy denies equal dignity and value to begin with (which it does not) and that Jesus is not the Author of all of scripture.
@D Sullivan The laws of your town must have a foundation of SOMETHING. What will you ground them on? How will you determine right from wrong? If you base them purely on man's law, then you have a functionally atheistic town-a town where God is not in charge, and has no practical relevance to what goes on there. If you base them on the Bible, then you have a Christian town-meaning God is recognized as Lord over this town, not that everyone there has to be a Christian. If you ground those laws on the Koran, then you have a muslim town. In other words, you can't have a neutral grounding; they will be based on something.
I had to pause at “Dr Elizabeth Stevens leads the Unitarian Universalist Church”.. and laugh out loud. A heretical “church” in many ways, led by woman in rebellion against God says Wilson’s church is not Christian?! That’s too much, what a joke.
unless the women have just finished shovelling the barn out and milking the cows. It's IDAHO. and hoeing the garden........thats "hoe" not..........................
Let’s get someone from outside of orthodox protestant Christianity to make the claim that Doug Wilson does not represent orthodox Protestant Christianity.
@@andrewmjohnson read my original comment and try again. Also, maybe you have not heard, but Doug Wilson claims he no longer holds to what you have accused him of. Perhaps you would like to make a public apology for breaking a commandment.
@@NFStamper In his article that he wrote called "Federal Vision No Mas" he specifically states that he no longer labels himself to Federal Vision but and I quote..."I would still want affirm everything I signed off on in the Federal Vision statement" LOL. In fact he said the following in the next sentence after that... "I would now want to go further in some directions with that statement". 🤡
@@andrewmjohnson Go listen to the hours of questioning to which he subjected himself for the examination of his theological views and identify what disqualifies him from being an orthodox Christian, in your opinion. A keyboard doesn't make your accusation less serious.
@@bettertomorrow791 sounds like you think mob rules apply, that's the same mentality of the Nazis. Just remember narrow is the gate that leads to eternal life and few will find it. Broad is the road that leads to destruction, for it is easy.
@@jesuschristiskingofkingslo2023 You religious nutjob can believe whatever you want to believe. When you don't have an argument, always bring out the Nazis.
"Did you feel [betrayed]? How did you feel?" They aren't evening hiding the leading questions. How did these people hear of how good this place is and move there if everything is "so bad" 🤔
@@mojoriden I'm not even American. I just noticed how the journalist was asking leading questions. In school you're taught that leading questions are not acceptable for journalism as it encourages the person being interviewed to follow the lead of the interviewer. I want journalists to function as neutral parties rather than tell the person their interviewing how they feel.
I literally lol'd when I saw the "ex-members". Not only did they lie (Christ church does not teach women can't wear pants), but these two are clearly not Christians at all lol
@@cstuartdc No, the Unitarian Universalist does not have a point… she’s not even remotely in the realm of Christianity, she rejects literally every significant piece of historic orthodox Christianity lol
@@cstuartdc Unfortunately, you’re trying to use big words but you don’t really know what they mean or when they’re applicable. To say that claiming Unitarian Universalism is outside of Christian Orthodoxy is “appealing to authority” Is the equivalent of you telling a person telling a hol0caust denier they don’t understand the holocaust as “appealing to authority”…. It’s not an opinion bud it’s just observing the historical evidence and data
@@cstuartdc She's being used as an authority on Christianity, when in reality, she 1) does not accept the clear teaching of the Bible in both Paul and Peter's epistles saying that women shouldn't be priests 2) denies the foundational creeds of the global Christian Church (Apostle's and Nicene) which are universally accepted by most ecumenical Christian bodies and 3) denies the two hallmarks of Christianity: the Trinity and Deity of Christ, making her a small, radical minority in the Christian world. This is equivalent to going to Karl Marx as a representative on what the Democratic Party believes or George Lincoln Rockwell as a representative of the Republican party.
@Chris Toph Agreed on all points. Wondering, however, if the media coordinators were intentional in locating the wolf-in-sheep’s clothing Universalist “pastors” OR did they go with the eager detractors after reaching out to actual Christian pastors who were too cowardly to stand in front of a camera and proclaim truth?
3:14 You missed a good come back. They are equal, but many skip the verse that comes after the "wives submit" verse. Read that and you will realize that men have the calling to lay down their life and sacrificially love their wife. This is beautiful when lived out.
@@deeds7529 True. This whole piece is highly edited to make this Pastor seem like a prehistoric primate. If you give him time, he is spewing some of the most helpful and life breathing news any culture could hear.
Journalist Leading the Interview 101 Journalist: “Did you feel betrayed? How would you describe your feelings?” Attention Seeking Girl: “I felt Betrayed!”
the UU has done a lot wortk for the community in accordance to christian values, while being open and welcoming to others. If the state isn't going to help folks, and a big "church" actively is unhelpful, when who is more christian?
@@sherrihaight2724 Hello Sherri. Are Christians defined by their works or their faith in the work of Jesus Christ? God sees the heart and we do not. I know people who are not Christian and do 10x the works I have but do not believe in Jesus existence let alone His willing sacrifice on the cross for all sin. To ask "who is more Christian?" in those scenarios is not applicable because in both those and this situation... one believes in the biblical teachings of the trinity and the divinity of Jesus and the other does not. Both cannot be true so only one is a true Christian. Also, demons believe in Jesus and they aren't Christians so we can't just say a belief in Jesus makes someone a Christian. I don't say this to be Christian and we would probably agree Christians (myself included) need to show the love of Christ better and more often, but let that not become something to boast about or to measure one's value since we only boast in Christ and not of our own works or ability.
He is a pastor, not much different then most Pastors that preach the Bible and have a strong church community, and this "journalist" makes it seem like he is a radical.
When an observer watches this and then the response video done a few days later, seeing what was left on the edit room floor… I think it was wise that the other party recorded as well. It’s amazing how the lens through which information is edited can produce two very different perspectives. In his response he mentions the history of how the rest of the West ended their participation in the slave trade, the repentant author of the song amazing grace comes to mind who campaigned for England to end their participation. His repentant campaigning led to England ending their participation. It appears obvious that one side has more grace for the imperfect person than the other.
"...women can't wear pants..." *immediately pans to several women from Christ Kirk wearing pants at a hymn sing* Come on, NBC 🤣🤣 There was even a woman with tattoos in Canon Press' recent Eve in Exile documentary. Imagine the horror 🤣
Well, you know it's a stitch up when not one single person interviewed was supportive of the church or spoke about any of its merits. Not exactly balanced journalism.
Interesting how the worst case for everyone else in the community is just "they hurt my feelings" and yet, people in Doug's church are losing their business, being ostracized in the community, and their criminal past being drug into the open. But they are the bad guys here.
Maybe it's a bad idea to advertise your association with a controversial cult if you're a business owner? If you read the Vice expose on this cult you'll learn about all the nasty stuff they do to former members, including boycotts.
Exactly, as RC Sproul said we need to understand the intention that we all Christians want to serve Christ and be true to scripture as much as possible... that's why we need to have civil discourse with love to settle our differences and rectify it whenever possible...as I'm from India, surrounded by 99% Evangelical Penticostal and Charismatic influence, I have to agree to disagree with many things yet we should not cease to speak the truth
4:20 Why would you go to a non-Christian and expect her to have anything positive to say about Christ Church? This female Unitarian Universalist is not a Christian, by definition. It's darkly hilarious to hear her, a member of a hostile anti-Christian religion, call Wilson's congregation a "cult" while she misappropriates the trappings and respect of Christianity for herself. Talk about a wolf in sheep's clothing!
@@thelegendarykevininsales7589 They deny foundational doctrine like the trinity. Usually they think Jesus was just a man or they flat out don't believe in God or the bible. They deny that Christ died for our sins to redeem mankind, which is bare minimum Christian belief. They are no more Christian than a Muslim would be, regarding Jesus in a very similar manner.
As someone who has listened to Doug Wilson uncut for years now I'm just crying laughing from how NBC is too stupid to understand what he's saying and therfore struggled greatly to edit and capture what he actually believes.
@@wet-read Being in the world, but not of the world. Christ followers supporting and loving each other as a national and global family. Not sending your children to government funded indoctrination centers (also known as public schools) and, whenever possible doing private schools or co-op homeschool instead. Worshiping together, breaking bread together, and, having become even more relevant than ever from 2020 to early 2022, applying Romans 13 in a exegetical, proper context. Anarchy is unbiblical and sinful; point of fact there is a genuine important role that a limited government should have. But God comes first.
@@mpls1982 I hope it is just the hypocritical, worldly church you have an issue with. The true church is the bride of Jesus Christ, and is therefore best to love and adore and belong to rather than hate.
What’s ironic is how Wilson would rage against wokism yet all he does is cry victimization throughout the entire interview. No where is he simply shining the light on Christ. It’s all politics and how much he wants to be on top but no one is buying what he has to offer.
Moscow was once literally called "a cesspool of liberalism" by a republican politician upset by residents going to his county fair booth and asking polite questions about why the guy supported and voted the things he did. He called us mean. Lol
@@OhioCoastie94 He offered Himself as a perfect living sacrifice before God, dying for your sins and mine so that whoever puts their faith in Him can have everlasting life!
People rightfully get upset when cult weirdos like Doug want to takeover the entire government of the United States and force their particular brand of whacko fundamentalist Christianity onto everyone else. That is their goal. They’re postmillennialists who seek to control the entire earth in order to bring about the end of the world. It’s psychotic and should be resisted.
I was assigned to a temporary job in the Idaho Department of Health and Human Services in Boise where we processed complaints of sexual abuse. You would be amazed as to the number of instances of this going on w/in families w/their children. From looking through the complaints, the majority of this was occurring on the eastern side of the state around Idaho Falls and Pocatello where there is a heavy Mormon influence.
Statistically over 50% of SE Idaho, which is 500 miles away from Moscow, are LDS, so it wouldn't be unexpected that a similar or significant number of abusers would be at least marginally linked to this church, where they are carried on membership roles, in spite of not attending a single service in years.
@@FalconTypo6 Ahhhh ! The delightful irony (aka I.N.C.O.N.G.R.U.I.T.Y.) of your abjectly ignorant insult directed to @NoblestStriver for utilizing the word “irony” in the exact manner in which the dictionary proscribes! Ha ha ha ha ha! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
1 Timothy 2:11-15 " A woman[a] should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[b] she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women[c] will be saved through childbearing-if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety". Your Female Pastor of the Unitarian church doesn't know enough scripture to teach anyone
EXACTLY! Isn't she just, uhh, disgusting? So, today I got fired for talking about PROVERBS 3:30 to a bully coworker. Yup, they took me in the office where nobody could hear and told me to not talk about Jesus. at work, "I'm asking you to not talk about God at work or things won't work out for you here" so I went to grab my tools and slammed them on my toolbox like, okay, then the boss shouted, "that's it, you're out of here."
Doug Wilson is advocating for overthrowing the entire United States government and imposing his specific brand of fundamentalism onto the entire country. He’s just starting in one town in Idaho. He’s the root cause of the insanity and citizens of the town who aren’t in his cult shouldn’t be pushed out of their homes. Maybe Doug should move to another country or a small island and establish his theocracy there. It has no place in the United States.
First time I've watched NBC willingly in probably 7 years. And it's just to get the algorithm to show this to more people who need to realize the future is Christian.
@@sherrihaight2724 Christianity is following all of scripture even the parts you don't like...that homosexuality is a sin, wives should submit to husbands, and women can't be pastors among other things. Read the Bible a few times and then try again.
@@caitlynmartin1906 men created god in their image the whole thing is biology, being the head of the pack etc.. putting words in god's mouth is a dangerous game.
What type of community does Dearborn have? Is there room or acceptance of a LGBTQ community? Is there an atheist or non-Muslim community included? If so, is the community structured in a way to keep certain people from moving into the city like renters not renting or property owners not selling homes to outside groups? Would love to see you do a story like you did on this Moscow community.
I am a Muslim, and there is a bias in the United States against Christianity. It’s kind of obvious. Outside of the United States, we are the target of zealous pro Israel based charades of foreign policy. My guess it that because Christians are the majority of the country, the United States government wants to stamp out religious power from the strongest demographic.
I'm an atheist, but I have a lot more respect for a man like Wilson who follows his religion seriously and doesn't pretend that it has to follow whatever social trend is popular like that woke pastor lady.
I'm so sad this cafe is closing, I will be praying God raises them up, maybe the owner can come back stronger. God is good and He is going to do all things for the good of those who love Him and are called according to His purposes.
It’s very possible. Look up Nini’s Deli in Chicago. Amazing true story of persecution of a believer who refused to bow down to the BLM movement, they had to shut down, but the LORD raised them up again. There is a RUclips video about it, if it hasn’t been censored…
My bet is it was a dying business regardless of his choice of religious worship and he found a way to fulfill his fantasy of being oppressed while shifting blame off of himself. If 10% of the town is a member of that church, that is a large enough customer base to keep the doors open.
@@beautifullybroken2926 Question: Do you think your "god" will ever raise up Black Wall Street Tulsa Oklahoma or Rosewood, Florida as you say "he" did with that deli in Chicago?
If men created “gods” how could their conduct ever benefit a made up entity?!? But if God made man (as he has) then he is the one who sets the rules. Doug’s stance on homosexuality is better proof for his belief in God (since there is zero cultural benefit in this corrupt society) than your claim of created gods for man’s benefit.
@@shawnsnider7623 men's conduct and rules regarding religion benefit men, men created a god in their own image. A woman shed blood for your life. Man, unable to respect that, told you it was worthless and you needed the blood of a man for a more valuable prize than the life you already have. The psychology of religion isn't that complicated.
I find it laughable you cite a "Rev. Dr." who is from a literal 'cult' as defined by almost all Protestant and Catholic denominations, who believe that anyone and everyone will find eternity in heaven, regardless of what they believe. I'm not even defending all of what the pastor has said...but maybe some research on specific groups like the Unitarian Universalist "church" would be beneficial before using someone like that for segment.
The first time I ever knew of this town was as a result of my very early research into COVID-19. A medical research paper was written by several people who had gone to China to see the first COVID patients in the hospital. One of the people was in China on behalf of the University there in Moscow. The first big outbreak occurred as a result of a medical conference in Boston which the research group may very well have attended upon their return from China. Now this... interesting.
I"m so encouraged by the comments on here! Amen.... Christians actually acting like christians is concerning for those in the world! May God bless Wilson and his efforts!
you wont believe what they left out that wilson and his group has done to our town. trust me, they were being very light handed in their opposition content.
Oh, my gosh. I used to live in Moscow. It’s a college party town. Lots of little churches, but most people lean left. What an absurd idea, guaranteeing people won’t want to be associated with that church.
"I don't believe they're a real church, no", says the UNITARIAN UNIVERSALIST I'm starting to understand what God meant when he said that he sits in the heavens and laughs.
No bad press here. We have seen and are about to see Doug Wilson's church explode with people who want to have truth taught to them. Biased journalism loses here. "All things work together for good for those who love God and are called according to His purpose." Romans 8:28
They went to the Unitarian Universalist to correct Doug and find out what Christianity teaches 😂😂😂 I’m not a Doug Wilson fan, but come on… read a book people.
2 Corinthians 11:13-15 kjv 13. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
I love how NBC takes all these quotes from Wilson and practically yells at the viewer “These are scare quotes! Be afraid of this kind of thinking! Isn’t this man just awful?!” Meanwhile Biblical Christians all over the country with some of the most happy, fulfilling, and human-flourishing-promoting marriages and churches see the quotes and go “Yeah… and that’s bad, why?” But of course, it is to be expected that NBC would misunderstand and misrepresent a belief system they simply refuse to even try to understand. Produces at NBC, if you read this; Jesus Christ is Lord over all His creation and He commands every man, woman, and child to repent and believe the Gospel. That in includes you and everyone in your company and everyone you release content to. Standing in open rebellion against God is sinful and you will stand before a thrice holy God one day and account for every single act of rebellion and sin you committed. I hope and pray that you trust in the atoning work of Christ and His imputed righteousness alone for your salvation, by faith alone, through Grace alone, all for God’s glory alone because if not then you will face the wrath of God for an eternity.
@@bvw3153 Because it is either Christ or chaos. Jesus Christ is Lord, the creator of the universe, and He commands all men everywhere to repent and believe the Gospel. As I said in my post, the folks and producers at NBC (along with everyone else on this planet who has ever lived or ever will live) will one day stand before a thrice holy God. And my friend, if you turn to Christ you will find Him to be a perfect savior. Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will not take into account (Rom. 4:8).
@@bvw3153 Friend, you are misunderstanding what folks like Douglas Wilson mean on this subject. No one is advocating for a system where pastors or priests rule within the government to establish some kind of state church or ecclesiastical state council. When Wilson says “All of Christ for all of Life,” he means that all spheres of life are under the Lordship of Christ; the family government, church ecclesiology, local government, state government, federal government, etc. As I said above, it’s Christ or chaos. What Wilson is advocating is a nation whose laws are founded on the principles of God’s revelation to us, as He had spoken clearly and authoritatively through the Scriptures. Only the Christian worldview can bring about a society where the innocent are protected, the poor are taken care of, and the wicked are punished. But if you reject the idea of a nation placing importance on the lordship of Christ in all things, what kind of system would you put in place that isn’t just as religious in nature? The question isn’t whether or not one founds their laws and principles upon a religious framework, but rather which religious framework you use to plant your feet. You may think or immediately say “we don’t advocate for any religion,” but the reality is that you would have to promote a specific worldview and thus you’ll have to account for the presuppositions and assumptions that lay as the foundation of that worldview. Whether you intend it or not, this worldview very much acts as a religious framework, because that worldview dictates things like morality, ethics, and principles that lead to specific laws as good and condemns other actions as bad.
Why didn't she ask those couples why they want to live in a Christian town? Seems the answer to that question would actually get to the heart of this movement.
This is an example of why a child of God doesn't give that which is holy unto the dogs, lest they turn and rend you to pieces. The only motive behind the story is to condemn that which is Holy.
A woman with black lipstick doing all the talking as her husband is silent tells me all I need to know about their opinion...which is grounded in confusion.
@@dreamseelive totally fine. The church, under my unbiased opinion and impression of the community, doesn't currently pose any threat to the domestic condition of any single person here. There's people with opinions, but I've yet to see anyone with opinions cause severe harm to anyone's livelihood around here so 🤷♂️
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Couple: claims church preaches against women wearing pants.
Next clip: shows Doug Wilson singing next to women wearing pants
Including his wife and daughters 🤣
Lmao! Excellent catch.
And I don’t know if he has tattoos but I know some of his closest associates that he calls brothers in Christ have several, so I doubt he preaches against that either.
Great catch! lol. I totally missed that!
@@jackiewheeler9202 more than likely he does....as he should. But many people.in the church who have tattoos got them before becoming a Christian.
A Unitarian Universalist explaining Christianity? Is this satire? Please teen me is satire.
Unitarians are dedicated to the proposition that there is no more than one God, and that he/she/xe/it does not have a Son.
Did you just request people to "teen" you? Nailed Wilson's proclivities.
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Oh aren’t you a fancy one 🤦🏻♂️
My thoughts exactly, almost verbatim! Hahaha. These people have lost their minds and don't care who knows it.
@@Laflamablanca76 LOL. Takes an obedient, blind white sheep to finally recognize.
They asked the universalist church if they think Wilson's church is a real church... if this wasn't such a serious issue this would be comedy gold.
The universalist church is a mockery
@@turtleneckferret interesting - you actually called a different church entirely a joke, since you used the wrong name, which makes me thing you are a joke 😃
@@BintAmun unitarians reject the deity of Jesus. They don't believe Jesus is the son of God.
Agreed, because Wilson's is obviously a cult.
@@BintAmun Unitarian (deny the deity of Jesus Christ) Universalist (everyone goes to heaven) Church ... would that be the correct nomenclature for that gathering?
For someone who can argue with the Bible coherently, gracefully, and tactfully to not be considered Christian by someone who is in open rebellion against the Bible but claiming to be Christian is insane.
“You intolerant bigot.”
Yeah those women "pastors"
Seriously
This whole bit is nuts 😅 amazing how they take things out of context to tell their own narrative
Well, Christ did warn us that these ravenous wolves would slink in among the flock.
The "Reverend" Doctor of a Universalist "Church" and another woman "pastor" may not have been the best interview choice to oppose a Pastor who studies and at least attempts submission to the authority of scripture.
It is not to be expected that a secular news outlet would make a choice based on scripture.
They are only taking into account that both sides call themselves Christian.
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That's right
@@thenowchurch6419 you got that right
Exactly.
Why did the original group of people come from Europe to America? For religious freedom... Not to force others to their belief just freedom. So to say this "church" is anything other than mr Wilson's way of creating his little kingdom. Christianity is a baby religion not near as old as other religions. To say it is the one true religion is ridiculous and ignorant. I will not be forced to take your religion or ignorant views. Nothing based on science or otherwise. You all need to grow up and realize that this church was kicked.out of every other place it's been in. And they need to go make their compound and leave the rest of the world out of their very skewed views and beliefs
Imagine thinking this is unbiased journalism.
Right? This is, "let's call it out and misrepresent it, so it doesn't spread any further."
Find me an example of non biased journalism. Now or sixty years ago you won't find it. Get real
What's biased about it
Imagine thinking….oh wait
@@justinhebert5155 GOOD ITS BAD
“I see them representing patriarchy”
Doug: “Yes”
Yet, Galatians 3:28?
@@dagwould hahaha, a classically misused verse. This verse is about how we are all heirs to Christ’s saving grace and righteousness. This does not remove the roles of male and female, otherwise Paul would not have spent time in his other books writing about the roles between the sexes.
The Christian man has to lay down his life for his wife and serve her as Jesus did for the church. What a terrible patriarchy.
This comment says it all. Love it
@@genotriana3882 yet the man makes the decisions. Don’t take that verse out of context .
I imagine they intentionally left out where he almost certainly went on to explain that husbands are called to live their wife as Christ loves the church - Christ served us and gave His life for us - so therefore the husband is called to serve and sacrifice for his wife. A very important part. And it comes directly after the verse that was mentioned in this.
Doug made a video response about this. I think he did mention they left out some very important parts
ruclips.net/video/u-0NnQ0qeAA/видео.html some of edit room material
@@jjgems5909 it doesn’t even matter this is NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION. We don’t want a religious government. Separation of Church and state
The important part for me is that he says wives should be submissive to their husbands. There is no way to spin that view positively. It doesn't matter how much a husband 'loves' his wife if he makes submission a condition of that 'love'. A religion that believes women exist to serve men is just wrong.
@@avacadomangobanana2588 this is not Catholicism . When they had the dark ages , we are talking about true Christ followers. But there will never be a perfect nation until Christ comes.
DID YOU ASK A FEMALE “PASTOR” IF SHE THOUGHT CHRIST CHURCH WAS A CHURCH?! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 the irony!
Lmao! Unitarian deny that Jesus as messiah died on the cross. They don't claim to be a Christian church at all
Hahaha 😆 😂 😆
It's like asking a female "pastor" if 1 Timothy 2:12 is Scripture.
They did. And her answer was rather eloquent.
@@FalconTypo6 "Ignorant" I think you meant to say. "Her answer was rather ignorant."
"I don't see them representing values I find in the Bible, I see them representing Patriarchy." It would take a UU reverend to put these two statements right next to each other and say them out loud.
The fact that she hears the word “patriarchy” negatively, is a clear sign that she’s probably outside the faith.
Most of the Bible is based on patriarchy, because that’s been the prevalent cultural trend even in ancient Jewish culture. Ironically, if you read the parts of the Bible that Jesus allegedly said, he believed and treated women as equals
@@down-to-earth-mystery-school your explanation gives the Bible human origin, which it actually denies. It’s ironic that you believe patriarchy denies equal dignity and value to begin with (which it does not) and that Jesus is not the Author of all of scripture.
"They represent patriarchy! Not the values of the God of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob!"
@D Sullivan The laws of your town must have a foundation of SOMETHING. What will you ground them on? How will you determine right from wrong? If you base them purely on man's law, then you have a functionally atheistic town-a town where God is not in charge, and has no practical relevance to what goes on there. If you base them on the Bible, then you have a Christian town-meaning God is recognized as Lord over this town, not that everyone there has to be a Christian. If you ground those laws on the Koran, then you have a muslim town. In other words, you can't have a neutral grounding; they will be based on something.
I had to pause at “Dr Elizabeth Stevens leads the Unitarian Universalist Church”.. and laugh out loud. A heretical “church” in many ways, led by woman in rebellion against God says Wilson’s church is not Christian?! That’s too much, what a joke.
Nothing Christian about universalism. Christ Is the only way!
They don't even claim to be Christians anymore...
@@JoelNCurry YES! AMEN!
Where do you park your van with no windows?
Right?! That was my thought
Hahahaha “they say women shouldn’t wear pants.” Camera immediately pans to dozens of church women from Christ church in jeans..
unless the women have just finished shovelling the barn out and milking the cows. It's IDAHO. and hoeing the garden........thats "hoe" not..........................
I don’t think they said that women shouldn’t wear pants, the people who left Christ church said that, but I don’t believe them.
@@sirg_k Exactly. The pastor posted a video responding to this too 🤭
EXACTLY...this is just more of the leftist "wrap up smear" campaign that drunken Nancy Pelosi brags about, and then promoted by left wing media.
My mother went on honeymoon wearing them. They were fashionable in 1948.
Let’s get someone from outside of orthodox protestant Christianity to make the claim that Doug Wilson does not represent orthodox Protestant Christianity.
He holds to federal vision theology. So no, Doug Wilson doesn’t represent orthodox Protestant Christianity.
@@andrewmjohnson read my original comment and try again. Also, maybe you have not heard, but Doug Wilson claims he no longer holds to what you have accused him of. Perhaps you would like to make a public apology for breaking a commandment.
@@NFStamper In his article that he wrote called "Federal Vision No Mas" he specifically states that he no longer labels himself to Federal Vision but and I quote..."I would still want affirm everything I signed off on in the Federal Vision statement" LOL. In fact he said the following in the next sentence after that... "I would now want to go further in some directions with that statement". 🤡
Gotta do your homework, before getting self righteous and telling someone they broke a commandment.
@@andrewmjohnson Go listen to the hours of questioning to which he subjected himself for the examination of his theological views and identify what disqualifies him from being an orthodox Christian, in your opinion. A keyboard doesn't make your accusation less serious.
Alot more fair than I was expecting. They gave almost 30 seconds to 1 person who supports Christ Church.
That's about the right ratio how much the town supports Christ Church, 25,000 people and about 2,000 supports the church.
@@bettertomorrow791 That's less than 10%. 2,000 is basically zero. Literally no one.
@@bettertomorrow791 sounds like you think mob rules apply, that's the same mentality of the Nazis. Just remember narrow is the gate that leads to eternal life and few will find it. Broad is the road that leads to destruction, for it is easy.
@@jesuschristiskingofkingslo2023 You religious nutjob can believe whatever you want to believe. When you don't have an argument, always bring out the Nazis.
one second more than they deserve.
"Did you feel [betrayed]? How did you feel?" They aren't evening hiding the leading questions. How did these people hear of how good this place is and move there if everything is "so bad" 🤔
you missed the entire timeline portion of this somehow. Lack of attention span or comprehension. Trump supporter?
@@mojoriden I'm not even American. I just noticed how the journalist was asking leading questions. In school you're taught that leading questions are not acceptable for journalism as it encourages the person being interviewed to follow the lead of the interviewer. I want journalists to function as neutral parties rather than tell the person their interviewing how they feel.
I I caught that, too.
@@mojoridenwow you’re an insufferable person.
A “Unitarian universalist” 😂😂😂
This is comedy.
I thought this was Saturday Night Live. You could of at least gotten someone who understands Christianity to talk about Doug
I literally lol'd when I saw the "ex-members". Not only did they lie (Christ church does not teach women can't wear pants), but these two are clearly not Christians at all lol
@@michaelmannucci8585 I was thinking the same thing. They're obviously VERY typical left wingers lying about their attendance.
Doug did a great job. Proclaiming the truth of Christ's kingship in a dignified and articulate way.
"Woe to you when all men speak well of you, for their fathers treated the false prophets in the same way."
Unitarian Universalist talking about departing from the Bible 😂😂
@@cstuartdc No, the Unitarian Universalist does not have a point… she’s not even remotely in the realm of Christianity, she rejects literally every significant piece of historic orthodox Christianity lol
@@cstuartdc Unfortunately, you’re trying to use big words but you don’t really know what they mean or when they’re applicable.
To say that claiming Unitarian Universalism is outside of Christian Orthodoxy is “appealing to authority”
Is the equivalent of you telling a person telling a hol0caust denier they don’t understand the holocaust as “appealing to authority”….
It’s not an opinion bud it’s just observing the historical evidence and data
@@cstuartdc She's being used as an authority on Christianity, when in reality, she 1) does not accept the clear teaching of the Bible in both Paul and Peter's epistles saying that women shouldn't be priests 2) denies the foundational creeds of the global Christian Church (Apostle's and Nicene) which are universally accepted by most ecumenical Christian bodies and 3) denies the two hallmarks of Christianity: the Trinity and Deity of Christ, making her a small, radical minority in the Christian world. This is equivalent to going to Karl Marx as a representative on what the Democratic Party believes or George Lincoln Rockwell as a representative of the Republican party.
@Chris Toph Agreed on all points. Wondering, however, if the media coordinators were intentional in locating the wolf-in-sheep’s clothing Universalist “pastors” OR did they go with the eager detractors after reaching out to actual Christian pastors who were too cowardly to stand in front of a camera and proclaim truth?
4:32 Yes, interview the female reverend with the Universalist church. That's a good place to get solid theology.
dont say that to NBC reporters, they probably dont understand your sarcasm
Praise God for Doug Wilson. Christ is King.
And Christianity is only for men.
Amen!
There is no god. Now go have a nice day.
@@jdarst100:
It’s not that simple. It can’t be proven either way. So much for nice days.
3:14 You missed a good come back. They are equal, but many skip the verse that comes after the "wives submit" verse. Read that and you will realize that men have the calling to lay down their life and sacrificially love their wife. This is beautiful when lived out.
They intentionally leave it out because it doesn’t fit their narrative that the “Bible is misogynistic”
@@deeds7529 True. This whole piece is highly edited to make this Pastor seem like a prehistoric primate. If you give him time, he is spewing some of the most helpful and life breathing news any culture could hear.
@@charleschi843 yup, i just watched the unedited version on Doug's channel and they left out so much!
He did say that, but of course it was edited out.
except it's NOT lived out. is it?
Journalist Leading the Interview 101
Journalist: “Did you feel betrayed? How would you describe your feelings?”
Attention Seeking Girl: “I felt Betrayed!”
"Many faith leaders disagree with Doug Wilson."
*Goes Immediately to a Unitarian Universalist*
Like, I think he's wrong, but come on.
the UU has done a lot wortk for the community in accordance to christian values, while being open and welcoming to others. If the state isn't going to help folks, and a big "church" actively is unhelpful, when who is more christian?
UU isn’t a church and they aren’t Christians. They deny the fundamental tenant of Christianity I.e. Jesus is God incarnate
They always pick the worst example possible 🤡
They might as well have just asked a non-Christian leader of the local social club.
@@sherrihaight2724 Hello Sherri. Are Christians defined by their works or their faith in the work of Jesus Christ? God sees the heart and we do not. I know people who are not Christian and do 10x the works I have but do not believe in Jesus existence let alone His willing sacrifice on the cross for all sin. To ask "who is more Christian?" in those scenarios is not applicable because in both those and this situation... one believes in the biblical teachings of the trinity and the divinity of Jesus and the other does not. Both cannot be true so only one is a true Christian. Also, demons believe in Jesus and they aren't Christians so we can't just say a belief in Jesus makes someone a Christian. I don't say this to be Christian and we would probably agree Christians (myself included) need to show the love of Christ better and more often, but let that not become something to boast about or to measure one's value since we only boast in Christ and not of our own works or ability.
He's bold, I like that about him.
Serial killers are "bold".
And he’s kind about it.
@@FalconTypo6 so are transsexuals that attempt suicide. What’s your point?
@@jayraymond9707 Exactly. "Bold" doesn't mean sh*t.
@@keithwilson6060 Kind about being a racist pig?
It scares me how many people are supporting this man in the comments.
He is a pastor, not much different then most Pastors that preach the Bible and have a strong church community, and this "journalist" makes it seem like he is a radical.
Finds an biblically informed church in town. “I felt betrayed”. 😂
Johnny Moronic transplants, gladly welcomed to click their heels and go back to where they came from.
When an observer watches this and then the response video done a few days later, seeing what was left on the edit room floor… I think it was wise that the other party recorded as well. It’s amazing how the lens through which information is edited can produce two very different perspectives. In his response he mentions the history of how the rest of the West ended their participation in the slave trade, the repentant author of the song amazing grace comes to mind who campaigned for England to end their participation. His repentant campaigning led to England ending their participation. It appears obvious that one side has more grace for the imperfect person than the other.
"...women can't wear pants..."
*immediately pans to several women from Christ Kirk wearing pants at a hymn sing*
Come on, NBC 🤣🤣
There was even a woman with tattoos in Canon Press' recent Eve in Exile documentary. Imagine the horror 🤣
Well, you know it's a stitch up when not one single person interviewed was supportive of the church or spoke about any of its merits. Not exactly balanced journalism.
There are no merits to a group that wants women to be second class citizens.
Did it ever occur to you that it is difficult to find one of his "supporters" in the town?
@@FalconTypo6 did it ever occur to you that this is NBC. Pleaaaase!
@@FalconTypo6 His church is 2k people in a town of 25k. It shouldn’t be hard.
@@tbe0116 What is "it"?
“just like Roe used to be.”
mic drop, man freaking NAILED it.
Such a win
Being a Christian Vs claiming to be a Christian !!
Interesting how the worst case for everyone else in the community is just "they hurt my feelings" and yet, people in Doug's church are losing their business, being ostracized in the community, and their criminal past being drug into the open. But they are the bad guys here.
Maybe it's a bad idea to advertise your association with a controversial cult if you're a business owner?
If you read the Vice expose on this cult you'll learn about all the nasty stuff they do to former members, including boycotts.
Vice? LOL.
@@SammyNeverEver This is NBC. Could not find a Vice video about Christ church in Moscow.
Thank the Lord for men like Doug Wilson. I don't agree with him on every thing, but I agree with him on a lot, and I appreciate him taking a stand.
yeah take a stand against those pesky women who want equal rights, wear pants, and won't submit to their husbands. sheesh!
@@wademansfield8981 Well look where they've gotten us. Millions of dead babies and most of them on depression meds.
Exactly, as RC Sproul said we need to understand the intention that we all Christians want to serve Christ and be true to scripture as much as possible... that's why we need to have civil discourse with love to settle our differences and rectify it whenever possible...as I'm from India, surrounded by 99% Evangelical Penticostal and Charismatic influence, I have to agree to disagree with many things yet we should not cease to speak the truth
@@wademansfield8981 ..those sinners of the cucumber club, teacher drag-queens, folsom degenerates and criminals. sHeEsHHH!!
Oh NBC. You don't have to sell it to me. It looks great!
4:20 Why would you go to a non-Christian and expect her to have anything positive to say about Christ Church? This female Unitarian Universalist is not a Christian, by definition. It's darkly hilarious to hear her, a member of a hostile anti-Christian religion, call Wilson's congregation a "cult" while she misappropriates the trappings and respect of Christianity for herself. Talk about a wolf in sheep's clothing!
Typical white male response. Women make great spiritual leaders, we have throughout history and continue to do so until today
Why is a unitarian universalist not considered a christian?
@@thelegendarykevininsales7589 They deny foundational doctrine like the trinity. Usually they think Jesus was just a man or they flat out don't believe in God or the bible. They deny that Christ died for our sins to redeem mankind, which is bare minimum Christian belief. They are no more Christian than a Muslim would be, regarding Jesus in a very similar manner.
As someone who has listened to Doug Wilson uncut for years now I'm just crying laughing from how NBC is too stupid to understand what he's saying and therfore struggled greatly to edit and capture what he actually believes.
@Anthony Rubio your comment makes no sense?
@@WheatsiloLOL.. blind to a "leader" blatantly being called out on his hypocrisy, much?
No, the msm has a dark agenda and it was intentional
Doug has the same problem all christians have. give them a little power and see what happens.
Doug Wilson is doing what frankly all Christians and churches should be doing.
Which is?
@@wet-read Being in the world, but not of the world. Christ followers supporting and loving each other as a national and global family. Not sending your children to government funded indoctrination centers (also known as public schools) and, whenever possible doing private schools or co-op homeschool instead. Worshiping together, breaking bread together, and, having become even more relevant than ever from 2020 to early 2022, applying Romans 13 in a exegetical, proper context. Anarchy is unbiblical and sinful; point of fact there is a genuine important role that a limited government should have. But God comes first.
Ok. Well you can think that stuff. 😀
@@wet-read Thank you. You as well. Freedom of speech and the right to disagree is extremely important.
@@wet-read Respectfully, it sounds like @PatrickC is much more about DOING “that stuff” than just thinking it. 😊
((James 1:22))
I love that I get to learn from Pastor Doug even in an NBC interview!! God is good!!!
Britterz me too
It's nice that god is good - in your imagination. He likely does not exist outside of that though.
what God? and are you still cutting your hair and wearing pants and do you just obey men?
@@curious011I don’t think you can even define what a man is lol
What did you learn? Just curious.
I pray for churches like this in every county of this nation.
Hate churches
@@mpls1982 I hope it is just the hypocritical, worldly church you have an issue with. The true church is the bride of Jesus Christ, and is therefore best to love and adore and belong to rather than hate.
Well that's a relief, I was worried you were going to do something useful for them.
@@jareddoddtheblessedfamily Jesus must want a really BAD bride. if the church is the bride of christ then he will accept anything.
It is called Christian theocracy.
"Pastor believes the Bible."
He believes the parts that support what he wants.
@@pamelalusher7365 will you say what part is he opposed to?
"Do you consider Christ Church a church?"
"I don't"
Said by the the non pastor
What’s ironic is how Wilson would rage against wokism yet all he does is cry victimization throughout the entire interview. No where is he simply shining the light on Christ. It’s all politics and how much he wants to be on top but no one is buying what he has to offer.
Moscow was once literally called "a cesspool of liberalism" by a republican politician upset by residents going to his county fair booth and asking polite questions about why the guy supported and voted the things he did. He called us mean.
Lol
Yes it was. It was known as the Eugene of Idaho
Sherri, who is Jesus of Nazareth and what did He do?
@@OhioCoastie94 He offered Himself as a perfect living sacrifice before God, dying for your sins and mine so that whoever puts their faith in Him can have everlasting life!
"You liberal nutards!" -That Politician
"This is exactly why I didn't vote for him" -LCSO Deputy
Man do people get upset when Christians live and uphold actual Christianity.
People rightfully get upset when cult weirdos like Doug want to takeover the entire government of the United States and force their particular brand of whacko fundamentalist Christianity onto everyone else. That is their goal. They’re postmillennialists who seek to control the entire earth in order to bring about the end of the world. It’s psychotic and should be resisted.
I was assigned to a temporary job in the Idaho Department of Health and Human Services in Boise where we processed complaints of sexual abuse. You would be amazed as to the number of instances of this going on w/in families w/their children. From looking through the complaints, the majority of this was occurring on the eastern side of the state around Idaho Falls and Pocatello where there is a heavy Mormon influence.
Exactly, no surprise there
Statistically over 50% of SE Idaho, which is 500 miles away from Moscow, are LDS, so it wouldn't be unexpected that a similar or significant number of abusers would be at least marginally linked to this church, where they are carried on membership roles, in spite of not attending a single service in years.
Douglas Wilson is not Mormon, he is a Presbyterian Christian. Very different from Mormonism.
@@rjsimpkins2911 pastor Wilson's church is not mormon in the slightest.
@@hookoffthejab1 I understand that and was responding to bigoted comment dragging a population over 500 miles away, into the story.
The irony of a female pastor to a Unitarian church labeling Christ church as a cult 😂😂😂
You might want to look up the definition of "irony", sheeple.
@@FalconTypo6 Unitarians are cultists you sheep
@@FalconTypo6 Ahhhh ! The delightful irony (aka I.N.C.O.N.G.R.U.I.T.Y.) of your abjectly ignorant insult directed to @NoblestStriver for utilizing the word “irony” in the exact manner in which the dictionary proscribes! Ha ha ha ha ha!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lmao! The lady from the unitarian church denies Jesus was the messiah altogether .
There is no god . now go have a nice day.
@@jdarst100 lol! Your comment has as much impact as an effeminate man beating his chest with two well used lambs wool dusters.
@@jdarst100 You would fit in well at a unitarian church with that belief.
1 Timothy 2:11-15
" A woman[a] should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[b] she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women[c] will be saved through childbearing-if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety".
Your Female Pastor of the Unitarian church doesn't know enough scripture to teach anyone
He has been such a blessing to me. He has taught me a ton.
How to hate women?
the smugness and stiff face of the interviewer says all you need to know about her opinion.
EXACTLY! Isn't she just, uhh, disgusting? So, today I got fired for talking about PROVERBS 3:30 to a bully coworker. Yup, they took me in the office where nobody could hear and told me to not talk about Jesus. at work, "I'm asking you to not talk about God at work or things won't work out for you here" so I went to grab my tools and slammed them on my toolbox like, okay, then the boss shouted, "that's it, you're out of here."
If you don’t like him, move somewhere else. God forbid people try to act moral.
Doug Wilson is advocating for overthrowing the entire United States government and imposing his specific brand of fundamentalism onto the entire country. He’s just starting in one town in Idaho. He’s the root cause of the insanity and citizens of the town who aren’t in his cult shouldn’t be pushed out of their homes. Maybe Doug should move to another country or a small island and establish his theocracy there. It has no place in the United States.
Oh no! This church actually believes what the Bible clearly says!
First time I've watched NBC willingly in probably 7 years. And it's just to get the algorithm to show this to more people who need to realize the future is Christian.
christian is love your neighbor, feed the poor, help the needy. These folks do NOT do that.
@@sherrihaight2724 Christianity is following all of scripture even the parts you don't like...that homosexuality is a sin, wives should submit to husbands, and women can't be pastors among other things. Read the Bible a few times and then try again.
@@sherrihaight2724 what she said, also, what you say is not true
@@sherrihaight2724 I could guarantee they do all of that
@@caitlynmartin1906 men created god in their image the whole thing is biology, being the head of the pack etc.. putting words in god's mouth is a dangerous game.
What type of community does Dearborn have? Is there room or acceptance of a LGBTQ community? Is there an atheist or non-Muslim community included? If so, is the community structured in a way to keep certain people from moving into the city like renters not renting or property owners not selling homes to outside groups? Would love to see you do a story like you did on this Moscow community.
People in Dearborn respect our Constitution, so its not the same.
Dearbornistan
I am a Muslim, and there is a bias in the United States against Christianity. It’s kind of obvious. Outside of the United States, we are the target of zealous pro Israel based charades of foreign policy.
My guess it that because Christians are the majority of the country, the United States government wants to stamp out religious power from the strongest demographic.
I'm an atheist, but I have a lot more respect for a man like Wilson who follows his religion seriously and doesn't pretend that it has to follow whatever social trend is popular like that woke pastor lady.
He gives these women ammunition. I think he should keep it up. and when his church fails. oh well.
I'm so sad this cafe is closing, I will be praying God raises them up, maybe the owner can come back stronger. God is good and He is going to do all things for the good of those who love Him and are called according to His purposes.
It’s very possible. Look up Nini’s Deli in Chicago. Amazing true story of persecution of a believer who refused to bow down to the BLM movement, they had to shut down, but the LORD raised them up again. There is a RUclips video about it, if it hasn’t been censored…
My bet is it was a dying business regardless of his choice of religious worship and he found a way to fulfill his fantasy of being oppressed while shifting blame off of himself. If 10% of the town is a member of that church, that is a large enough customer base to keep the doors open.
@@beautifullybroken2926 Question: Do you think your "god" will ever raise up Black Wall Street Tulsa Oklahoma or Rosewood, Florida as you say "he" did with that deli in Chicago?
Your God is nothing
Nice hit piece. Good to see women who reject God’s word telling Doug about what a Christian “ought” to be.
Men making god into their image has done more for men than it has ever done for god.
Love you witty humor
If men created “gods” how could their conduct ever benefit a made up entity?!? But if God made man (as he has) then he is the one who sets the rules. Doug’s stance on homosexuality is better proof for his belief in God (since there is zero cultural benefit in this corrupt society) than your claim of created gods for man’s benefit.
@@shawnsnider7623 men's conduct and rules regarding religion benefit men, men created a god in their own image. A woman shed blood for your life. Man, unable to respect that, told you it was worthless and you needed the blood of a man for a more valuable prize than the life you already have. The psychology of religion isn't that complicated.
@@pambp5978 psychology of religion aside. You have missed completely the point of Christianity.
I find it laughable you cite a "Rev. Dr." who is from a literal 'cult' as defined by almost all Protestant and Catholic denominations, who believe that anyone and everyone will find eternity in heaven, regardless of what they believe. I'm not even defending all of what the pastor has said...but maybe some research on specific groups like the Unitarian Universalist "church" would be beneficial before using someone like that for segment.
It's confusing to remember all your wacky beliefs.
Can we just all agree that Christianity is not good?
And these guys call SAUDI Arabia extreme.
not surprising if you understand either of them
The first time I ever knew of this town was as a result of my very early research into COVID-19.
A medical research paper was written by several people who had gone to China to see the first COVID patients in the hospital.
One of the people was in China on behalf of the University there in Moscow.
The first big outbreak occurred as a result of a medical conference in Boston which the research group may very well have attended upon their return from China.
Now this... interesting.
The people they interviewed are the embodiment of the end of civilization
Says someone who probably thinks the world was more civilized 2 thousand years ago 😂
I"m so encouraged by the comments on here! Amen.... Christians actually acting like christians is concerning for those in the world! May God bless Wilson and his efforts!
Just a white guy talking about ethnic cleansed town and nothimg to do with native americans and other races oppresed and never recognized.
So true 🪶
He's advocating for Christian Nationalism, not white nationalism.
I guess we’re supposed to be shocked that traditional Christians are still evangelizing their communities and printing books.
Let’s claim to follow the Bible but do the opposite and say we are “Christian”. Guess who I’m talking about.
Let's start with "Woman Pastors" for 200, Alex.
What is "a couple of clearly typical left-wing socialist college students that claim to be former members"
@@OzzyMcFinn or big fat men who hate women. for 1000, Alex.
Can you tell me the verse where Jesus says women can't be pastors?
@@drew9221 1 Timothy 3:1-7. Husband of 1 wife. Overseer/Elder/Pastor are interchangeable biblically
“he’s against pants” next scene him with women who wear pants lol. Whose wrong about the mandates no, Missy?! 😆
You also cut out a lot of what Doug said. The video contains way more statements from heretics than Doug
you wont believe what they left out that wilson and his group has done to our town. trust me, they were being very light handed in their opposition content.
@@sherrihaight2724 Keep believing rumors and lies.
The unitarian doesn't think he's a good representative of Christianity... isn't this the "church" that closes in the summer?
Make it an official Christian town. Let's all get the popcorn and tune in.
Yes, lets do and see what happens. since it's against the constitution and all.
Love how this comment section is flooded with Doug Wilson's puritanical incel followers.
Oh, my gosh. I used to live in Moscow. It’s a college party town. Lots of little churches, but most people lean left. What an absurd idea, guaranteeing people won’t want to be associated with that church.
Will religious people outside Christianity be welcomed there ?
Check out their women wearing pants, "who aren't allowed to wear pants."
What a horror!
only if your a women😄
That's what religion is
@@dividjones494 Christianity liberates women
You literally went to a Unitarian who denies orthodox Christian doctrine to ask “who is the church.” Unbelievably ignorant.
Love this comment section. Full of Christians. Keep fighting the good fight. Pray for reformation. Pray for Moscow.
"I don't believe they're a real church, no", says the UNITARIAN UNIVERSALIST
I'm starting to understand what God meant when he said that he sits in the heavens and laughs.
i think God may regret ever building a church. all they do is lie over and over and over again. some bride.
We are going to save all the babies, and nobody can stop us!
True!
NBC not approving is a badge of honor.
Moscow, Idaho murders brought me here
No bad press here. We have seen and are about to see Doug Wilson's church explode with people who want to have truth taught to them. Biased journalism loses here.
"All things work together for good for those who love God and are called according to His purpose." Romans 8:28
There is no god. Now go have a nice day
@@jdarst100 Jesus is Lord. Have a nice day.
Imagine that, a Christian cult in rural Idaho. Never would've thought such a thing was possible.
Love is neither coercive, nor controlling-a key to discerning who has it, and who does not.
"reverend doctor Elizabeth Stevens of Unitarian Universalist Church" Haha lost all credibility with that one.
Wow nice editing.
ah yes, moscow, one of the queerest and most accepting towns in idaho. The university itself will make this "pastor's" goals difficult
I'm Kenyan and I listen to Wilson
They went to the Unitarian Universalist to correct Doug and find out what Christianity teaches 😂😂😂
I’m not a Doug Wilson fan, but come on… read a book people.
A unitarian universalist saying a certain church ISN'T a church is absolutely hilarious. Unitarian universalists literally don't believe anything lol
2 Corinthians 11:13-15 kjv
13. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
I love how NBC takes all these quotes from Wilson and practically yells at the viewer “These are scare quotes! Be afraid of this kind of thinking! Isn’t this man just awful?!” Meanwhile Biblical Christians all over the country with some of the most happy, fulfilling, and human-flourishing-promoting marriages and churches see the quotes and go “Yeah… and that’s bad, why?” But of course, it is to be expected that NBC would misunderstand and misrepresent a belief system they simply refuse to even try to understand. Produces at NBC, if you read this; Jesus Christ is Lord over all His creation and He commands every man, woman, and child to repent and believe the Gospel. That in includes you and everyone in your company and everyone you release content to. Standing in open rebellion against God is sinful and you will stand before a thrice holy God one day and account for every single act of rebellion and sin you committed. I hope and pray that you trust in the atoning work of Christ and His imputed righteousness alone for your salvation, by faith alone, through Grace alone, all for God’s glory alone because if not then you will face the wrath of God for an eternity.
Toddle on back to your FOX News, weirdo.
Great that you believe that. Now tell me why anyone else should live under a system of your Christian beliefs?
@@bvw3153 Because it is either Christ or chaos. Jesus Christ is Lord, the creator of the universe, and He commands all men everywhere to repent and believe the Gospel. As I said in my post, the folks and producers at NBC (along with everyone else on this planet who has ever lived or ever will live) will one day stand before a thrice holy God. And my friend, if you turn to Christ you will find Him to be a perfect savior. Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will not take into account (Rom. 4:8).
@@CmRoddy So you are ok with theocracy then, because that is what the pastor is calling for. A government dictated by religion.
@@bvw3153 Friend, you are misunderstanding what folks like Douglas Wilson mean on this subject. No one is advocating for a system where pastors or priests rule within the government to establish some kind of state church or ecclesiastical state council. When Wilson says “All of Christ for all of Life,” he means that all spheres of life are under the Lordship of Christ; the family government, church ecclesiology, local government, state government, federal government, etc.
As I said above, it’s Christ or chaos. What Wilson is advocating is a nation whose laws are founded on the principles of God’s revelation to us, as He had spoken clearly and authoritatively through the Scriptures. Only the Christian worldview can bring about a society where the innocent are protected, the poor are taken care of, and the wicked are punished.
But if you reject the idea of a nation placing importance on the lordship of Christ in all things, what kind of system would you put in place that isn’t just as religious in nature? The question isn’t whether or not one founds their laws and principles upon a religious framework, but rather which religious framework you use to plant your feet.
You may think or immediately say “we don’t advocate for any religion,” but the reality is that you would have to promote a specific worldview and thus you’ll have to account for the presuppositions and assumptions that lay as the foundation of that worldview. Whether you intend it or not, this worldview very much acts as a religious framework, because that worldview dictates things like morality, ethics, and principles that lead to specific laws as good and condemns other actions as bad.
Why didn't she ask those couples why they want to live in a Christian town?
Seems the answer to that question would actually get to the heart of this movement.
the people interviewed weren't biased at all
yes, put it all on the women. what about big FAT men who lie? they say one thing and always do another. what about the hellfire awaiting THOSE men???
This is an example of why a child of God doesn't give that which is holy unto the dogs, lest they turn and rend you to pieces. The only motive behind the story is to condemn that which is Holy.
A woman with black lipstick doing all the talking as her husband is silent tells me all I need to know about their opinion...which is grounded in confusion.
Hey Pastor, show us your browser history! Then we can talk... 🤣
I always wonder what these religious conservative men are googling in the middle of the night.
I live here and was not expecting to see this video in my recommended
Lmao same here 😂
Ohh, what’s it like? 😂
@@dreamseelive totally fine. The church, under my unbiased opinion and impression of the community, doesn't currently pose any threat to the domestic condition of any single person here. There's people with opinions, but I've yet to see anyone with opinions cause severe harm to anyone's livelihood around here so 🤷♂️
It is so funny how you have a non Christian unitarian universalist telling a freaking Calvinist that he is not a Christian.
Reading the comments, Pastor Wilson must be directly over the target.
It's f*ck'n scary.