I figure he dropped according to their plan on that stage and was supposed to take it easy till the finish, but then he saw Kelderman also dropped just in front of him, which was probably not part of the plan, and he decided to get back to work. Strong performance yes, but even more so shows that all the media gossip about him being unhappy in the team about them not gettting him a stage win, being a selfish rider, etc., is all bullshit, he is a top professional and a team player when it comes down to the wire.
i think this year with the possibility of him leaving early and then getting unlucky on the first sprints they decided green is not an option and maybe dont overuse him
He probably dropped because they were going hard on the steep section and him being 15 kilos heavier hurts him in there. But then the gradient lowered so he managed to come back
@@Euu_-tc6hz Yeah, I think Majka actually attacked to eliminate WVA before the gradient eased - and it worked. But then Sepp radio'd back and said that Majka's pace had eased (typical Majka), so WVA came storming back to set the pace through the lower gradient section in the middle - which was the original plan - and which WVA did to perfection. Turned the tables completely on Majka & UAE.
the media stuff about him being selfish isn’t entirely wrong, but also not entirely right. the duality of man. the nature of cycling. a team sport with individual glory. such is life
@@itachi7243456 for vingegaard it is best the peloton rides at a constant high speed, for pogocar it is best that they ride 'with rushes'. here yates from pogacars team gives an accelaration so van aert and kelderman got dropped, then yates was gonna slow down but van aert comes back to keep the constant pace cause he knew they were gonna slow down.
@@itachi7243456 The draft effect is central to cycling tactics. These guys climb fast enough to draft up to about an 8-9% grade. The best climbers can change their speed from fast to really fast without blowing up. Weaker climbers that are already on the limit can't handle those speed changes. WvA goes to the front for one last hard pull, increasing the pace so much that he drops pure climbers and sheds the domestiques. He is, the best overall rider in the world right now and on paper at least, shouldn't be able to do that. But WvA sets a new paradigm for a super domestique.
@@itachi7243456 Cycling is also highly psychological. When Kelderman and WVA get dropped, UAE thinks they are forcing their will (& pace) of Jumbo. WVA comes back to the front and reasserts his/Jumbo's dominance. When the riders are each hurting themselves so much, this little psychological warfare can be quite decisive.
His recovery is extreme, probably from cyclocross his whole life which is basicly 1 hour of high intensity intervals (you see the same on riders like MvDP and Pidcock). Add the sheer horsepower he puts out and this is the result.
Watched it in a bar, was shouting like a mad man. The plan is for yates to set the slow down the pace at the front, and change Vindegaard's pacing if Pogacar plans to attack. In cycling a change in pace can severely affect the momentum of a rider, and it takes a lot of energy to match the pace of a sudden attack. Wout saw Kelderman got dropped, and sepp cannot attack pass yates, he took the matter to himself. This is one legendary moment.
So glad I read this comment. I've only been watching pro cycling for about 1.5 years and I knew this was amazing, but now it's 10x more amazing. I didn't take into account the Yates slowing down for an attack situation. Mind blowing!
@@DualRaum easier said then done. Riders knows this. Sepp wouldn't have the power, and Vindegaard would have nothing left in the tank to counter pogacars attack.
In Belgium we adore Wout ! he is absolutely incredibla ! he just have it all !!! He dont have to prove annything annymore . He is the best belgian rider of the last 50 years for me. every race he is riding he end in the top 3 . I realy would like to see him in his own team, where everyone must work for him. He probably wouldend like this because he is to humble....
Moi je pense que sepp demande un dernier coup de main et que wout est venu le donner Sachant que ça serait son dernier effort étant donné que le soir même il quitté le tour pour avoir son bébé , voilà ça motive grave ,y a pas besoin de chercher beaucoup mais pour savoir ça il faut avoir fait du sport dans sa vie et pas seulement le regarder a la TV 😅
When Wout takes over, forget the look of Majka! Look at the face of Pogacar. It is one of pure desperation. He still tries to cool himself with water. A little while later he has to let go while Wout is still pulling.
He said he was pushing hard then he recovered and his director told him to go continue, but they slow down in front that's why he can join them and take the lead.
@@2011hwalker No I dont think it is 10% at 2:02, more than 8%. Because they look to be at more than 20km/h and the crowd doesnt look like they are in a steep climb, when it is 8% they climb between 23 to 28km/h
Honestly what does this help, it looks good for the cameras but doesn't give Vingegaard an advantage over Pogacar. They are both following the same train, be it UAE or Jumbo.
A few ways - Firstly Vingegaard and TJV is outnumbered, which is not good, in case of a mechanical, you need somebody to go to the team car, or something like that. Secondly Majka is riding the pace Pogacar wants, Vingegaard might have liked a different pace. Thirdly it ends up dropping Majka as far as I remember, which means it evens out the numbers, and it just helps out psychologically, it sends a message that if he can come back and drop Majka, Vingegaard and TJV expected a higher pace than UAE was willing to set, which could make Pogacar question if an attack is a good idea, does Vingegaard feel like they are just chilling? Could they have achieved this with Kuss, yes, but then you run the risk of being 3 against 1 instead, and WvA just steaming past like that on a climb, would probably have had a much bigger psychological effect.
He drops majka which leaves pogacar isolated, the worst thing you wanna see happening is being isolated without teammates. say pogacar can attack at very fast speeds and vingegaard having a domestique can make him chase, not doing the same effort as tadej as hes getting the draft from his domestique.
That’s was the moment when Bingeggard wins the Tour de France, Pogacar was ready to kill him but Van Aert with the acceleration make Pogacar and his crew spent a lot of energy just to follow Van Aert acceleration
@@2011hwalker ohh he’s most definitely a freak. He’s a good climber for a cyclist who is also a one day specialist but the last couple years he has fell short in terms of results. He’s not winning like he used to.
WvA will never be a GC rider in the Grand Tours, unless he can figure out a way of dropping something like 8 kilos or more. He has got great stamina, and is a terrific all rounder, but he is no where close to keeping up with the likes of Vingegaard, Pogacar, Evenepoel, etc., in the high mountains over 3 weeks. The way he is achieving these performances is by either being way out front earlier in the stages, and/or basically having his finish line 5-10 kilometers before the GC favourites, so he can go all out and have a big impact, before the actual finish line.
@@ZnakeTech Would not really rule it out been quite a few tour de france winners in the 70-75kg range. And in some sense i agree with original post. Its a bit of a shame that the favorites are basically on 2 teams. On a bright side they are 2 brilliant teams that at least are about on the same level with a few bonuses to jumbo visma and makes it a much more exciting team sport! But some what less interesting as a individual performance. better wish was that all teams had this amount of talent !
I dont think I've ever seen something like it, even the best tt riders couldn't even get close to takin 3. But I like vingegaard so ill just wait and see
and why does this not add up? It was climb TT wich is much more suitable for Jonas having less bodyweight then Wout & Jonas is also a better pur sang climber then Wout so i dont see anything weird about it
The TT had 2000+ ft. of elevation in 35 minutes, stands to reason that one of the best climbers in the world set a better time than his 80kg teammate...
He finishes the first effort and nearly comes to a stop whilst the pure climbers are still pushing but thrn WVA (who is considerably heavier than the rest) can pick himself up again and catch up to oure climbers ans you can see them all labouring as well. It's either his training program is amazing or its something else but in the past you've heard people and commentators saying amazing things about certain individuals and then years later the truth came out!
All looks a bit too good to be true for me. One minute he's come to a stop and can hardly pedal, next he's caught up and is riding away from his rivals
@@FearTheIndoorHorseRancher It's been a minute since I've followed road cycling. I figured EPO usage has been "figured out" by now and that it would be difficult to use nowadays for performance enhancement due to detection methods. What else are riders using these days?
"Call an Ambulance...But Not For Me" (2023, colorized).
I figure he dropped according to their plan on that stage and was supposed to take it easy till the finish, but then he saw Kelderman also dropped just in front of him, which was probably not part of the plan, and he decided to get back to work. Strong performance yes, but even more so shows that all the media gossip about him being unhappy in the team about them not gettting him a stage win, being a selfish rider, etc., is all bullshit, he is a top professional and a team player when it comes down to the wire.
i think this year with the possibility of him leaving early and then getting unlucky on the first sprints they decided green is not an option and maybe dont overuse him
He probably dropped because they were going hard on the steep section and him being 15 kilos heavier hurts him in there. But then the gradient lowered so he managed to come back
@@Euu_-tc6hz Yeah, I think Majka actually attacked to eliminate WVA before the gradient eased - and it worked. But then Sepp radio'd back and said that Majka's pace had eased (typical Majka), so WVA came storming back to set the pace through the lower gradient section in the middle - which was the original plan - and which WVA did to perfection.
Turned the tables completely on Majka & UAE.
the media stuff about him being selfish isn’t entirely wrong, but also not entirely right. the duality of man. the nature of cycling. a team sport with individual glory. such is life
My favourite moment of 2023 tdf so far!!!
For this Wout fan forever!
Exactly what I thought! Who said what on his radio to piss him off!
Which stage is it?
@@donnieli4906stage 15, it says so in the bottom right
love the elbow bump he gave to Pogacar and Majka, just letting them know he is back and ready to punish them a bit more
I caught that too. Right in the left butt cheek. "I'm not dead yet". lol
Can someone explain how he is punishing the other team? I don't understand why cycling is a team sport and not just for individual riders...
@@itachi7243456 for vingegaard it is best the peloton rides at a constant high speed, for pogocar it is best that they ride 'with rushes'. here yates from pogacars team gives an accelaration so van aert and kelderman got dropped, then yates was gonna slow down but van aert comes back to keep the constant pace cause he knew they were gonna slow down.
@@itachi7243456 The draft effect is central to cycling tactics. These guys climb fast enough to draft up to about an 8-9% grade. The best climbers can change their speed from fast to really fast without blowing up. Weaker climbers that are already on the limit can't handle those speed changes. WvA goes to the front for one last hard pull, increasing the pace so much that he drops pure climbers and sheds the domestiques. He is, the best overall rider in the world right now and on paper at least, shouldn't be able to do that. But WvA sets a new paradigm for a super domestique.
@@itachi7243456 Cycling is also highly psychological. When Kelderman and WVA get dropped, UAE thinks they are forcing their will (& pace) of Jumbo. WVA comes back to the front and reasserts his/Jumbo's dominance.
When the riders are each hurting themselves so much, this little psychological warfare can be quite decisive.
His recovery is extreme, probably from cyclocross his whole life which is basicly 1 hour of high intensity intervals (you see the same on riders like MvDP and Pidcock). Add the sheer horsepower he puts out and this is the result.
Please don't mention Pidcock in the same sentence with VdP and Van Aert. VdP has more Monument wins than Pidcock has Elite wins on the road.
it's safe to say that his lactate clearance rate is outstanding.
That’s the EPO hitting
Lactate is not an indicator of fatigue, inorganic phosphate is
The look on Majkas face tho 😂
He had to look twice to reassure himself 😀
He just cant believe what just happened
He just cant believe what just happened
He was like Bro I dropped you already 😭
He was like the WTF😮
Lmaooooo
This man is a LEGEND!!
This moment is so special, it is right up there with Jonas waiting for Pogacar in ‘22. Watching since 1975, never seen anything like it.
One of the most amazing things I've seen ever
I want a full documentary of this moment
Such a wonderfull guy, I Hope that he and vingegaard always stays together.
man, this BEAST is the entire representation of a pure cyclist must be
This was absolutely ice cold from WvA, he's a machine 🧊
I have watched this at least ten times - and it has not lost one once of pleasure for me.
I always watch this to get hyped up for training - unbelievable, goosebumps every time.
Everyone watching him come by must have been think "oh crap here we go again"😂
Watched it in a bar, was shouting like a mad man. The plan is for yates to set the slow down the pace at the front, and change Vindegaard's pacing if Pogacar plans to attack. In cycling a change in pace can severely affect the momentum of a rider, and it takes a lot of energy to match the pace of a sudden attack. Wout saw Kelderman got dropped, and sepp cannot attack pass yates, he took the matter to himself. This is one legendary moment.
So glad I read this comment. I've only been watching pro cycling for about 1.5 years and I knew this was amazing, but now it's 10x more amazing. I didn't take into account the Yates slowing down for an attack situation. Mind blowing!
If Yates slowed down, couldn't Vingegaard with Kuss just ride past Yates and continue their pace?
@@DualRaum easier said then done. Riders knows this. Sepp wouldn't have the power, and Vindegaard would have nothing left in the tank to counter pogacars attack.
WvA is a freaking beast!
man i would love to know how much power wout puts out, hanging with the little guys while weighing 78kgs
It’s ridiculous, he’s dropping the under 60kg guys as well.
@@zigzagnemesist5074That is because he's on kyptonite. And to think Niro Quintana gets done for taking Tramadol.
@@gordonhamilton727 Evidence, please.
This was top 3 moments of the tour for me. I was going insane on the trainer watching this lol.
Beast doing what he is good at.😊
Majka: Hey guys slow down.
Wout: Get out of my way
"They dont know me son" aah moment
In Belgium we adore Wout ! he is absolutely incredibla ! he just have it all !!! He dont have to prove annything annymore . He is the best belgian rider of the last 50 years for me. every race he is riding he end in the top 3 . I realy would like to see him in his own team, where everyone must work for him. He probably wouldend like this because he is to humble....
why do i hear boss music?
WvA has got a nuclear reactors in his legs..😂
Moi je pense que sepp demande un dernier coup de main et que wout est venu le donner Sachant que ça serait son dernier effort étant donné que le soir même il quitté le tour pour avoir son bébé , voilà ça motive grave ,y a pas besoin de chercher beaucoup mais pour savoir ça il faut avoir fait du sport dans sa vie et pas seulement le regarder a la TV 😅
When Wout takes over, forget the look of Majka! Look at the face of Pogacar. It is one of pure desperation. He still tries to cool himself with water. A little while later he has to let go while Wout is still pulling.
Wout went all out the moment bare buttocks came insight
After WvA takes over Pog and Majkas exchange looks as if to say what on earth?!
He gave Majka detention. Threw him right out
Goosebumps all over when I see Wout Van Aert rides
Wout came out of womb riding a bike.. He is a beast
Bro gave UAE the hope and snatched it after a second 😂
🤣🤣🤣the look on UAE when they saw him🤣🤣🤣
Wout the steamroller always means business, you’ll have to cut his legs off for him to back down & even then he’ll grow new ones😂😂😂
Wout Van Aert is a motherfuckinbeast !!!
This commentator reminds me so much on the Armstrong era, from the old videos on yt😄
Phil Ligget and Bob roll. He's been doing it for ages so probably is phil.
Your right. Its still the same sports announcers
Una bestia!! Vanaert el mejor ciclista del mundo!!
Beast mode is an understatement!
Literally rode Rafael Micah off the road!
Majka se sorprende cuando aparece Wout a su lado tirando como un demonio, hermoso momento en ese TDF
Wout: Call an ambulance. But not for me.
That was the most insane thing I have ever seen in cycling.
actually insane.
It's because of the helmet... Red bull gives you wings
Fabulous motor
Nah this commentary team didn’t give that ride the appreciation and hype itv’s Ned boulting and David millar did
side note i love the graphics design over rider groups
He said he was pushing hard then he recovered and his director told him to go continue, but they slow down in front that's why he can join them and take the lead.
"slow down" its 10% at 2:02 even their cruising speed is mental.
@@2011hwalker No I dont think it is 10% at 2:02, more than 8%. Because they look to be at more than 20km/h and the crowd doesnt look like they are in a steep climb, when it is 8% they climb between 23 to 28km/h
wout be like "guys i need to take a piss, back in 5"
this is so inhuman -- look at Majka's face after he get's relieved by Wout
Cest le temps de remettre de l'essence dans la machine!
Why do they call Jonas Vingegaard “vingigo”??
The d is silent in Danish and the gegaard is pronounced gigo or gigor
wout é uma locomotiva ! 😊
2:55 HAHAAHAHHA
Wout is such an X-factor
all Wout needs is 60 seconds and a wheel to sit on. recovery, no problem.
An absolute animal!!!!
This was dope!
«Why the fuck are you here» UAE
Did Wout get a bike change🤔
sprinter climber time trial classic = Wout van Aert
OMG insane 🔥🔥🔥
Honestly what does this help, it looks good for the cameras but doesn't give Vingegaard an advantage over Pogacar. They are both following the same train, be it UAE or Jumbo.
A few ways - Firstly Vingegaard and TJV is outnumbered, which is not good, in case of a mechanical, you need somebody to go to the team car, or something like that. Secondly Majka is riding the pace Pogacar wants, Vingegaard might have liked a different pace. Thirdly it ends up dropping Majka as far as I remember, which means it evens out the numbers, and it just helps out psychologically, it sends a message that if he can come back and drop Majka, Vingegaard and TJV expected a higher pace than UAE was willing to set, which could make Pogacar question if an attack is a good idea, does Vingegaard feel like they are just chilling? Could they have achieved this with Kuss, yes, but then you run the risk of being 3 against 1 instead, and WvA just steaming past like that on a climb, would probably have had a much bigger psychological effect.
He drops majka which leaves pogacar isolated, the worst thing you wanna see happening is being isolated without teammates. say pogacar can attack at very fast speeds and vingegaard having a domestique can make him chase, not doing the same effort as tadej as hes getting the draft from his domestique.
Vingegaard is better in high but controlled pace with less attacks so having wout setting the tempo is the best for vingegaard
Pogacar wasn’t isolated. Adam Yates was still in his wheel. Just saying
The face on majka
tdf is on nbc?
only on... Peacock
That’s was the moment when Bingeggard wins the Tour de France, Pogacar was ready to kill him but Van Aert with the acceleration make Pogacar and his crew spent a lot of energy just to follow Van Aert acceleration
is this us or australian commentator?
What stage?
Whaaat is that unholy TdF screen overlay?!
Looks like I’m watching a baseball game lol
Peace you US cyclists fans :)
Some of us are using a VPN to watch on GCN - thankfully.
@@markdwelchforcongress4456 Not anymore we don't :-( "We are sorry to inform you that GCN+ will be closing. The service ends on December 19, 2023."
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WVA is done for. He hasn’t had any impressive results a while now. Going on 2 years since he’s won a big race.
he was in great form but had that horrific crash earlier this year. Incredible to be competing in sprints AND win a ventoux stage...insane ability.
@@2011hwalker ohh he’s most definitely a freak. He’s a good climber for a cyclist who is also a one day specialist but the last couple years he has fell short in terms of results. He’s not winning like he used to.
Majka: WTF !? Xd
Well filmed smh
Doping
So many potential GC riders are wasted to being simply a glorified gregari.
WvA will never be a GC rider in the Grand Tours, unless he can figure out a way of dropping something like 8 kilos or more. He has got great stamina, and is a terrific all rounder, but he is no where close to keeping up with the likes of Vingegaard, Pogacar, Evenepoel, etc., in the high mountains over 3 weeks. The way he is achieving these performances is by either being way out front earlier in the stages, and/or basically having his finish line 5-10 kilometers before the GC favourites, so he can go all out and have a big impact, before the actual finish line.
Glorified gregari? WvA focuses primarily on the spring classics
@@ZnakeTech I think Wout could win week-long races - if the parcour wasn't TOO mountainous, or had a TT in it.- like Kelly did back in the day
@@ZnakeTech Would not really rule it out been quite a few tour de france winners in the 70-75kg range.
And in some sense i agree with original post. Its a bit of a shame that the favorites are basically on 2 teams.
On a bright side they are 2 brilliant teams that at least are about on the same level with a few bonuses to jumbo visma and makes it a much more exciting team sport! But some what less interesting as a individual performance.
better wish was that all teams had this amount of talent !
...and Vingegaard took 3 minutes out of van Aert in a 22 km TT. Something does not add up.
I dont think I've ever seen something like it, even the best tt riders couldn't even get close to takin 3. But I like vingegaard so ill just wait and see
and why does this not add up? It was climb TT wich is much more suitable for Jonas having less bodyweight then Wout & Jonas is also a better pur sang climber then Wout so i dont see anything weird about it
It was a climb TT so it makes absolutely sense idk what you are talking about
The TT had 2000+ ft. of elevation in 35 minutes, stands to reason that one of the best climbers in the world set a better time than his 80kg teammate...
He finishes the first effort and nearly comes to a stop whilst the pure climbers are still pushing but thrn WVA (who is considerably heavier than the rest) can pick himself up again and catch up to oure climbers ans you can see them all labouring as well. It's either his training program is amazing or its something else but in the past you've heard people and commentators saying amazing things about certain individuals and then years later the truth came out!
Very fishy.
Performance is alien
Bobkeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All looks a bit too good to be true for me. One minute he's come to a stop and can hardly pedal, next he's caught up and is riding away from his rivals
Beast mode? It’s called EPO. He’s the biggest juicer in the sport.
What?
@@TheJaxsonjack what do you mean what? I wrote in plain English.
@@FearTheIndoorHorseRancher It's been a minute since I've followed road cycling. I figured EPO usage has been "figured out" by now and that it would be difficult to use nowadays for performance enhancement due to detection methods.
What else are riders using these days?
Just showing off with little effect.
he had a mecanical issue
Worst commentary ever, ITV coverage gives it so much more energy
Van Hart e pieno fino all'orlo
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